437 Responses to It’s War

  1. taffman says:

    Tin hat time .
    The enemy has seen how weak and woke the west have become . It’s 1939 all over again,.
    How will the West react ?………
    “Lessons to be learned”.

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    • vlad says:

      ‘Weak and woke’ indeed, and none more so than Sleepy Joe.

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      • Guest Who says:

        And supposed jernilists.

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        • JohnC says:

          It’s not NATO who have caused this. It is the EU.

          I’m waiting for someone to actually admit it.

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          • Fedup2 says:

            I’m guessing when you say EU – you mean the Franco German alliance – particularly Germany selling its ‘ soul for Russian gas ….

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    • Sluff says:

      Taff
      You are so unkind.
      We do a much better job positioning pink ER boats at strategically significant junctions than Russia does.
      I mean, they can only do that with tanks.

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  2. The Mouse says:

    taffman,

    Please don’t be so pessimistic. This may be a great opportunity to build some hotels and fill them up with refugees fleeing from eastern Europe, a nice addition to the economic migrants we have. On the downside we might not see so many coming from Hong Kong as they may see better prospects being part of China. Though we can’t house all our own people, can’t see a doctor, still on high alert for terrorist attacks, seeing the price of energy and food rising/soaring now and the huge national debt “we can do it” (Merkel). Break out all the candles and teddy bears and sing imagine. Hug a hoodie. Hopefully the weather will pick up as we approach the spring and we can expect our Africa and the RoW numbers making up any short fall. God help us as the government nor opposition can.

       52 likes

    • taffman says:

      COVID restrictions ending .
      What was all that about ? Was it an act of biological warfare?

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  3. Foscari says:

    We will have to see if the BBC will be “neutral” like the lot
    in charge now would of been in 1939.Parties at number 10 BBC?
    Diversity and transgender issues BBC ? These are still going to be
    at the top of your agenda BBC?

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  4. Foscari says:

    For a start BBC stop calling the scum bag Putin MR PUTIN !!!!!

       20 likes

  5. Guest Who says:

    A bbc correspondent who is unfamiliar passes on wibble from Sleepy.

    Next, Toenails ‘analysing’ a cake recipe from Kammy?

       19 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      His oeuvre is not extensive, and goes back a while, but clearly appreciated.

         19 likes

      • BRISSLES says:

        He used to report on all the Hollywood gossip, so he’s clearly been dusted off and brought out of the wardrobe as he’s the only one awake.

           5 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      Dangerous times.

      A final Americast in the works?

         13 likes

  6. Guest Who says:

    Lies is there. Reporting.

       2 likes

  7. Guest Who says:

    Maybe Benjamin Butterworth, Femi, YAB and Vile can resolve it all?

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  8. Zephir says:

    Clinton:

    How America’s NATO expansion obsession plays into the Ukraine crisis. The post-Cold War debates shaping the current standoff with Russia.

    As Clinton became a frequent traveler to Russia and quickly plunged into statecraft, the promotion of democracy in Europe emerged as a primary US foreign policy goal. But it wasn’t clear that a military alliance like NATO would be the best way to advance that.

    A debate over NATO’s merits erupted in Washington in the ’90s. George Kennan, the eminent architect of the Soviet “containment” strategy and a former ambassador to the Soviet Union, wrote in 1997 that expanding NATO would be a “fateful error” because it would “inflame the nationalistic, anti-Western and militaristic tendencies in Russian opinion.” Kennan was far from alone in his criticism, as journalist Peter Beinart noted this week:

    Thomas Friedman, America’s most prominent foreign policy columnist, declared it the “most ill-conceived project of the post-Cold War era.” Daniel Patrick Moynihan, widely considered the most erudite member of the US Senate, warned, “We have no idea what we’re getting into.”

    Meanwhile, military leaders saw enlargement as detrimental to US interests, the Congressional Budget Office saw it as too expensive, and, later, intelligence agencies outright opposed adding Ukraine and Georgia. Clinton’s Secretary of Defense William Perry wrote in his memoir that he nearly resigned over enlargement.

    It was a way of incentivizing liberalization in countries that had been in the Communist bloc, showing that the US still has a mission in Europe, and a way of the US projecting power and checking alternative systems like the European Union.”

    https://www.vox.com/22900113/nato-ukraine-russia-crisis-clinton-expansion

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  9. andyjsnape says:

    Students to pay off loans into their 60s, plans say, reports the bBC
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-60498245

    or I report, loads of spongers wanted to not pay

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  10. Zephir says:

    Funny how the bbc and their, quite literally patners in crime, doubt when Putin says he is “mostly peaceful”. (peacekeeping)

    Maybe if it was black Russians causing mayhem they would accept ?

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  11. Guest Who says:

    Phew, Clive is there too.

    The diversity was looking iffy.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      I can imagine a war movie from Ukraine when the Americans get involved ….

      US troops in a trench: Big shout “Incoming!”.

      Screech of passenger jet tyres on runway.

      Another unnecessary BBC unnecessary correspondent lands unnecessarily in Keeeev at LF taxpayers’ unnecessary expense.

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    • BRISSLES says:

      Complete with his on trend scarf. Err, if all civil aviation has been halted to Kiev – how are all the sky/bbc journalists going to get out ?

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Brissles, my dear old thing (well it must be the cricket season in Australia – still) that was the first thought when I heard that news. They will have to try a risky car journey overland to Poland. I do wonder if TimKing Davide (see what I did there?) has done ‘an Uriah’ on poor old Nick Robinson just to rid himself of a ‘difficult’ presenter.

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      • Banania says:

        Uptick for ignoring the spelling change. Who decided the change, and why is everybody suddenly copying it?

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        • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

          Sorry to disagree but “Kyiv” is correct, if you respect the Ukrainian version rather than the more familiar Russian “Kiev”.

          The pronunciation is like the French “que” plus the English “yiv”. I think “keev” is wrong, though I understand why people are saying it.

          Remember that Ukrainian has an “i” like our “i” and another one which is like the Russian Cyrillic “i” (to our way of seeing, it actually looks like a Roman “u” just to confuse matters) These letters appear side by side in Kyiv / Kiev.

          Source: from the horse’s mouth, a Ukrainian I worked with in the early 2000s.

          Of course, Kiev isn’t wrong. After all, we still talk about Lisbon and Florence instead of the more authentic Lisboa and Firenze; but Ukrainians prefer “Kyiv”.

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          • richard D says:

            Agreed, Mustapha.

            Way back, I undertook a number of trips to the Ukrainian city of Kharkov (Russian) or Kharkiv (Ukrainian – actually pronounced ‘Charkeef’, where the ‘CH’ sound is similar to the Scots pronunciation of ‘CH’ as in Loch).

            I noticed this morning that ‘Toenails’ Robinson was at great pains to pronounce Kiev as ‘Keef’, but fell over ten seconds later with the pronunciation of Lviv, which he pronounced as it is spelt, but which a local pronounced during an interview with him as ‘Leef’.

            As George Michael might have said (earworm alert !!!!!)… “If you’re gonna do it, do it right”. ‘Toenails’ is definitely NOT your man (sorry…)

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    • Northern Voter says:

      Will he be back in time for Mastermind?

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  12. Zephir says:

    Note to all:

    For those of us not on Twitter, please note that links to Twitter pages are now often blanked out with Twitter banners urging us to “sign in or join” preventing non Twitter users from reading them

       17 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      Ditto any footage via bbc iPlayer.

      Wish there was a way around it.

         3 likes

      • Zephir says:

        I suppose a screenshot and then the image used via an image host but its a complicated work around

           1 likes

        • theisland says:

          I’m not on twitter. If you select either ‘log in’ or ‘sign up’ when the box comes up you can then close whatever comes up by clicking the X in the top left hand corner. This lets you continue reading for a while until the blocking box annoyingly pops up again, at which point repeat the process.

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    • Wild Bill says:

      Just open a twitter account, you don’t have to use it.

         1 likes

  13. vlad says:

    I bet the Ukrainians are really grateful for those helmets Germany sent them to help their war effort.

    I just hope they were gay-friendly.

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  14. Up2snuff says:

    as it is relevant to this thread – hope Fed approves – I have copied my Midweek thread post here
    TOADY Watch #1 – in which the BBC tries to make their gratuitous waste of taxpayer money and increased CO2 ….

    …. seem important to the R4 listener. Nick Robinson goes unnecessarily to Keeev and another Beeboid (sorry forgotten name already – fog of war with Simon in the Ssssst tooodio) – unnecessarily plays sound of air raid siren. Everyone of a certain age (and even young people who have watched war films and documentaries) knows what they are and sound like. Beeboid 3 (Nick) talks to Beeboid 2 about what they haven’t heard and haven’t seen.

    Beeboid 3 (Nick) talks to Beeboid 1 (Lyse Doucet) who has been in Keeev for sometime (experienced War Correspondent – note the capital letters – you know) gabbles at a Spike Milligan rate of 300 words a minute. Poor dear is shell shocked already (by the shelling that hasn’t happened yet) and hyperventilates in fear for the listener.

    I switch off.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Up2
      Yeah. – open house day – on a BA refugee plane back to blighty today – its posdible that theyll have run vodka..

      I will miss the excited yet sombre coverage the BBC offers at times like these – and i know i shouldnt laugh at the embarrassing ‘all together ‘ crap they throw out .

      But i dont expect to hear much about canada or covid either ..

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      • Up2snuff says:

        No, bit of a surprise capitulation from Trudeau there. BBC will not like that. After all the Freedom Truckers demonstrating in Ottawa were all Extreme Far Right Nazis according to the BBC.

        As you say, Covid and ‘Partygate’ will all be sidelined unfortunately for the BBC, the Labour Party and the sucker in charge of the Labour Party. I note from the FT’s front page that Starmer ‘has failed to capitalise’.

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        • AWOL says:

          Canada – Turdeau realised that it wasn’t going to be ratified in the Senate hence any measures taken were illegal.
          I listen to this guy who is a (non-practicing) lawyer.

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  15. JohnC says:

    Putin knows the West will not be this weak again for a long time. No way he is going to allow the possibility of a NATO country along the border with Russia.

    Thank you Biden, Harris, Pelosi, BBC, Twitter, Facebook and all the Lefties in general who fully supported the ridiculously biased reporting (and cover ups), the election fraud and putting a senile old groper in the Whitehouse just because they hated Trump.

    I remember when they told us Trump would cause WW3. Biden now has 2 military disasters on his watch in just over one year.

    And a special ‘Shame on you’ award to you BBC. You are the only one who had an actual mandate to be impartial.

    The Left and their hypocrisy disgust me. They don’t care about anything except themselves and their agenda.

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  16. JohnC says:

    Students to pay off loans into their 60s, plans say
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-60498245

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    Just recording more illegal BBC sexual and racial discimination in their article content. Nothing new to see here.

       17 likes

    • Ian Rushlow says:

      Perhaps there could be exemption if a person is a Woc? Just have the White males pay for everything? Less than 2/3rds of university students are Wimmin, so we don’t want to discourage them.

      Woc = Wimmin Of Color

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      • JohnC says:

        Don’t count it out.

        Some whiteys were claiming not to be racists by pointing at the dictionary definition and some black people didn’t like that. So they changed the definition to ‘include a reference to systemic oppression’ to make it include ALL white people, no matter what.

        If they can be that ridiculous, nothing is off the table.

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  17. Zephir says:

    Bring back O levels and proper A levels and most of them will not get near a university

    In my time one would have had to be a genius to be allowed to take more than three A levels, let alone to achieve four or five grade A A levels

    And that was when we had things called libraries and books where learning and research was done, and logarithm table books.

       42 likes

    • Zephir says:

      Note to millennial non mathematical wokes (its racist innit)

      you won’t find log tables in Ikea

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    • Expat John says:

      Likewise.

      The rot started long before John Major’s expansion of the’univerdigties.

      My cousin, now retired after a career as a teacher with the British army, tells me that at teacher training college (remember those?) in the early 1970s, there were more sociology lectures than education ones.

      Around the same time, 1974 I think, a history teacher about 25 years old was removed from my school after parental and staff pressure for teaching that Churchill was a drunk warmonger and for going on endlessly about Rosa Luxembourg. Her mistake – less than 30 years after the end of WW11, most of the teachers were veterans.

      I have been exposed to similar attitudes in education ever since.

      God alone knows how many youg minds that teacher and those like her have corrupted in the years since 1974 – undoubtedly some of them will themselves have become teachers, and so the mindset promulgates until it pervades the entire system.

      Just reflect that some of those people are just coming to the end of careers in the civil service.

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    • Scroblene says:

      The unis are only up to capacity since the awful Bliar arbitrarily pullled a 50% target out of the bag, to get kids onto all those mickey mouse courses. And now they’re whinging because their pay/studes’ loans etc haven’t increased. LBC had so many of these whining nasal twonks on this morning, the switch across to listening to real reporting on GBN was refreshing and informative!

      Oh and yes, somehow, from then on, the numbers of kids with their parents paying for them all the way through Vegan Gender Studies for five years, didn’t appear on the unemployment lists! Funny that, as he and the idiot Brown were already doing their best to wreck UK Inc. There wouldn’t be any jobs for the kids to go to anyway after that dreadful recession, caused solely by that evil duo.

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      • Expat John says:

        Yes indeed – just a gigantic (and temporarily highly successful) manoeuvre to mask the youth unemployment figures.

        Education doesn’t create jobs, jobs create the need for education.

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  18. vlad says:

    First Iran laughed at Sleepy Joe and resumed its nuclear programme.
    Then the Taliban laughed at Senile Joe and took Afghanistan.
    Now Putin is laughing at the Imbecile as he marches into Ukraine.

    Next… Xi Jinping?

    2Q==

       42 likes

    • Up2snuff says:

      Gog (and possibly Magog) on the move in the End Times? Interesting.

      Watch Israel.

         11 likes

    • Ian Rushlow says:

      Good time for China to make its grab for Taiwan. The West (as was) can’t even begin to cope with two war fronts. Plus China could easily impose sanctions, such as threatening to stop exports of cheap trash to the likes of Walmart and Poundland.

         21 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      War under Turmp!

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  19. Zephir says:

    President Obama was caught on a live mic in 2012 telling Russian President Dmitry Medvedev that he would ‘have more flexibility’ to negotiate on missile defense after his November election.

    n an another infamous clip from the 2012 presidential debate against Senator Mitt Romney, Obama made fun of the governor for bringing up the looming existential threat of Russia and Vladimir Putin.

    Obama said ‘the 1980’s called and they want their foreign policy back.’
    At the time, lapdog journalists, including CNN’s Chris Cillizza, cheered the gotcha moment instead of taking Romney’s warnings seriously.
    They applauded like seals over Obama’s cheap line – calling it the best moment of the debate.

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  20. Guest Who says:

    “Yet across the gulf of space, minds that are to our minds as ours are to those of the beasts that perish, intellects vast and cool and unsympathetic, regarded this earth with envious eyes, and slowly and surely drew their plans against us.”

    Dominion. BLM. Antifa. Epstein ‘suicide’. A male admiral that looks like Whoopi Goldberg. Paris Islamic riots. A No.10 gay insider feeding cake stories for a month to an obsessed media. Sopes and BS holding the US to account. Solar battle tanks. Maternity suits for fighter pilots.

    What did they imagine might happen when cultural differences are not going to be solved by a several hundred thousand £ diversity hire picking and choosing rules to suit?

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  21. Zephir says:

    Now I’ll have that Jeff Wayne tune in my head all day, thanks

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  22. Zephir says:

    War reporting millennial style…CBS news

    “‘We heard several loud explosions… three to begin with followed by two more,’ he said.
    A fighter jet suddenly flew overhead which took D’Agata off guard as he looked around to see if there was anything he needed to be aware of.
    D’Agata appeared spooked by the sudden noise.”

    CNN:
    “I just heard a big bang right here behind me. I’ve never heard anything like it.”

    FFS hope there is counselling available

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  23. Guest Who says:

    Dan shares the FT sharing Tom sharing…

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    • Fedup2 says:

      I think if the BBC havent got any more to show theyll jusr turn on a ‘weak’ nut nut for not sending our boys to die in someone elses war .

      Easy for politicians to demand more coffins but Tom has ambitions ..

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      • Guest Who says:

        Not in any way underestimating the seriousness of this situation, but frankly treating the majority of western media as the utter joke they are might make the utter jokes western politicians are pause a bit before dancing to Twitter feeds of 24 yo bimbos, opportunistic ex Labour activists and whoever is with Toenails in his bunker.

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      • Scroblene says:

        The BBC are screeching about the UK sanctions being wek, but the better news stations like GBN are telling us that in fact, Boris is leading the others, and that includes the old foool over the pond, and certainly the Frog!

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  24. Ian Rushlow says:

    Urgent message from BBC Director General to Winston Smith:

    ‘Smith! Remove this video and any reference to it from the archives. Also delete any references to ‘Orange Revolution’, ‘EU flags in the Maidan 2014’ and ‘Soros-backed’.

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  25. G says:

    Sickle Cell Disease.

    Black Broadcasting Corporation: “New sickle cell treatment given to first patients in England”. Take a look at the photo. An African or person from the Caribbean?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-60498916

    “What is sickle cell disease?
    It is inherited from both parents, who pass on a particular gene
    It is possible to carry the gene without having the disease
    Nearly 300 babies are born with it each year in the UK
    A simple blood test will show whether someone has it
    Children with sickle cell are at greater risk of stroke
    Other symptoms can include serious infections, anaemia and tiredness
    Source: Sickle Cell Society / NHS UK”

    No BBC, the NHS say, “Sickle cell disease is particularly common in people with an African or Caribbean family background.”
    https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/sickle-cell-disease/

    Let’s get it straight, deceptive BBC.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      G, quite correct. Especially prevalent in West Africa and descendants of West Africans. A Nigerian friend of mine has it and lives with it OK.

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      “Each vial of the drug costs £1,000 but NHS England has negotiated a confidential discount and hopes to treat up to 5,000 patients over the next three years.”

      Presumably the next time the media and politicians tell us how mass migration has benefited the British economy, they will have the decency to add a further £5 million into the deficit column of the spreadsheet. Or to paraphrase a supermarket: Every little doesn’t help.

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    • StewGreen says:

      AFAIK Their are just a few British white people with sickle cell anemia.
      cos it’s almost impossible for people of 100% northern European extraction to have sickle cell.
      Though it does effect all other races, including a fraction of Italian/Greek
      There are 300 babies born with it in the UK
      Even though there are 20 times more white babies born in the UK , than black, most with SCA are black.
      No one seems to want to say the actual number.
      I guess it’s like some men get breast cancer. but no men get cervical cancer.

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    • maxincony says:

      G,

      Let’s get it straight, deceptive BBC

      Huh? Deceptive? How

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      • Nibor says:

        Maxincony ,

        Do you want a Ladybird book on real racists or a Janet & John easy read book about your mindset ?

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        • maxincony says:

          Nibor,

          Do you want a Ladybird book on real racists…

          So you’re unable to explain how the BBC report is “deceptive”. What a surprise…

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      • G says:

        Not citing in total the NHS advice. I give a link, assuming you can read – Selective citing. But we know why, don’t we?

        By the way, where are you? Beijing or Moscow?

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    • Nibor says:

      Proving you , Maxincony , are are a racist .

         7 likes

    • Banania says:

      Just like sex then. Or perhaps I mean gender.

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  26. Guest Who says:

    Her husband on hunger strike yet?

       8 likes

    • Zephir says:

      Pity its not China the batteries would have run out by now and all the lead paint flaked off

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  27. AsISeeIt says:

    Whatever happened to diplomatic language?

    The recently ineffectual west, having dared Putin to act, apparently find he’s finally called their bluff: ‘Ukraine: Russia has launched ‘full-scale invasion‘ (BBC)

    Although, given the news source, I’d check my footware for signs of urination before I’m convinced. Who could forget weapons of mass destruction launchable within 45 minutes?

    Putin’s reputed invasion timetable seems to have slipped a bit since Christmas, New Year or during the Winter Olympics. What of our spooks, our espionage experts, what have they been up to since: ‘Out of the Shadows: Christopher Steele defiant on dossier, says Trump still ‘potential’ threat. The British former spy says the Russians still may hold “kompromat” on Trump‘ ? (ABC News October 2021) – more to the point, what do they have on Biden? What seems to have given Putin the confidence to do as he pleases without fear of real consequences?

    Seriously, what of our spooks? Our 007s?
    Do you expect me to talk? No Mr Bond, I expect you to think about your white priviledge…

    Security chief tells our spies to go woke‘ (Daily Mail) ‘With full Ukraine invasion imminent, we reveal MI5 and MI6 officers were told to think about their “white privilege’ – and avoid using words like “grip” and “strong”

    The mind truly boggles. One imagines a seasoned old marine commando sergeant brought in to teach young hopefuls how to silently take out a guard on the perimeter of a super villain’s secret compound – those word prohibitions are likely to strain his descriptive vocabulary somewhat.

    Speaking of which: ‘Putin’s gone “full tonto” Defence Sec: we kicked Russia’s backside before… we can do it again‘ (freebie Metro) – whatever happened to diplomatic language?

    The giveaway Metro, inevitably feels the need to give its readership a quick history lesson: ‘Referring to the 19th century Crimean War

    Seems we’ve lost this one, since even before it’s begun we’re counting the cost: ‘Oil soars past $100 after Russia orders troops into Ukraine‘ (BBC)

    Is it all over for Londongrad?‘ asks the Daily Telegraph concerned, no doubt, about house prices and about financial markets; ‘Putin pal Abramovitch not welcome in UK‘ the Daily Star ponders the effect on football – I guess with our black-balling of Russian money, in future we’ll have to make do with Arab and Chinese finance – Londonistan and London-ching.

    Pressure grows on Tories to hand back £2m Russian money‘ (Daily Mirror) – won’t that simply enable the Ruskies to buy a couple more tanks?

    Look on the bright side, eh? ‘Kyiv called up 200,000 reservists and Russia ordered 45,000 body bags while shelling intensified in disputed areas of Ukraine‘ (Daily Mirror)

    Ukraine war could drive 5 million from their homes‘ says the Times. Already fretting about refugees. Come and live over here then?

    Migrants who pay people smugglers simply because they want to come to “nice” countries are “queue jumping” says the Australian former minister hired by Priti Patel to shake up UK border measures‘ (Telegraph)

    Despite the fact we’ve a Democrat president, the Guardian seems to think the US cavalry can’t nowadays save the day: ‘State of emergency in Ukraine as US warns Putin ready to invade

    The FT puts their faith in the EU: ‘Brussels hits Putin inner circle as US hardens invasion warning‘ and regrets: ‘Starmer’s struggle to capitalise on Johnson scandals

    In financial news…

    Sunak vows to slash tax burden‘ (Telegraph) – that’s after he’s raised our tax burden: ‘Students set to shoulder £100K bill for degrees‘ (Times); ‘Britain should bring forward tax rises to head off inflation, IMF tells Sunak‘ (FT); ‘Rishi: I will cut taxes but you’ll have to wait‘ (Express)

    Public health news…

    “Hospital at home” hopes to plug NHS bed gap‘ (FT) – but what if our homes become overwhelmed? Speaking of the Crimean War… Nightingale tents in our back gardens?

    Medics voice concern over plan to end home abortions in autumn‘ (Telegraph) – blimey, I’d have thought doctors would raise concerns that home abortions were a thing in the first place.

    Meat-eating linked to higher risk of cancer‘ (Guardian) – I wish I could have bet a few quid on the eventual appearance of that headline.

    Mind you, I’m not saying all public health messaging is de facto lies and bad for us: ‘On the Buses Olive killed by “cig in bed”‘ (Sun); ‘On the Buses Olive dies in blaze‘ (Daily Star); ‘Tears for On the Buses star after fire tragedy‘ (Mirror) – I’m old enough to remember when you had to go up on top for a smoke.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      AISI, interesting photo on fp of Guardian this a.m.. Shows Putin ‘out of step’ with his military (and the rest of the Russian people?) and somewhat becalmed, bit like another ‘Socialist’ that I can think of who leads our UK Labour Party.

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  28. Zephir says:

    If we get dragged into this I am sure it will end up as a global conflict

    A bomb on London will undoubtedly provoke a response from Pakistan, Nigeria and Somalia.

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  29. digg says:

    If I was in Putin’s shoes and could see how limp-wristed, deviant and pathetic Western governments and news media have become, I would not be concerned in any way about any retaliation. In fact I would probably see it as my human duty to normalise things.

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  30. Guest Who says:

    Lest there be any doubt on the role media plays.

    https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/tv/bbc-breakfasts-dan-walker-ambushes-23192636?

    A no weight no mark bbc twat pulls an award winning photo gotcha on a minister trying to avert a war on air, and his groupies oop north wet their panties.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Is that the big gotcha Dan Walker claims ?
      “confronting Liz Truss with a photo of her & other top Tories in the company of Lubov Chernukhin, a leading Conservative donor, who’s husband has close links to Putin”
      “£1.6m in donations, the biggest female donor to the Tories”
      .. Hmm that’s really not much money

      Its from way back when Mrs May was in charge
      Lubov is not next to Truss but rather to the right of Mrs May

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  31. Guest Who says:

    All is saved! Vile is getting in Kev.

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  32. G says:

    Zelensky:

    Now would be a good time to take out of hiding, the remaining nuclear device you stashed away at the end of the Cold War and give it to the volunteer ex-Special Forces operative suffering from a terminal illness to take it to the Kremlin…………

    Just waiting for China to start on Taiwan. Probably why the US is not putting significant numbers into Europe: Keeping Powder Dry.

    The evil here is Europe / EU. A scandal. Sat back watching Putin build up all his forces while running down their military and reducing payments to NATO. Shame on them.

    I recall reading somewhere that there was some debate at the end of WW2 as to whether the Allies, having reached Berlin, should continue pushing East to Moscow.

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  33. gb123 says:

    This is probably a better picture of what is happening in Ukraine on the ground rather than the media.

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  34. vlad says:

    Hey Joe, is this a “minor incursion”?

    54589705-10545951-The_attack_has_come_to_Ukraine_on_all_fronts_with_bombs_and_miss-a-68_1645688946753.jpg

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  35. G says:

    Let’s call for Conscription!

    All those aged between 16 and 40.

    ‘Dinghy Pound in Dover broken into overnight and all dinghies stolen’

    ‘Strange and sudden disappearance of all those in 3 & 4 Star hotel accommodation: BBC puzzled’

    ‘Mass exodus of Pakistani & Somali nationals through Heathrow’.

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Meanwhile in a socialist loving country China in the year 2017 … “China Tackles ‘Masculinity Crisis,’ Tries to Stop ‘Effeminate’ Boys {nbcnews.com 09jan2017}” … “Chinese police order Muslims (Xinjiang) to hand in all copies of the Koran and prayer mats or face ‘harsh punishment’ {29sep2017}” … BBC has more news … …

      “State (China) media billed the rallies as “anti-terror and stability (compulsory) oath-taking assemblies” {bbc.co.uk feb2017}”

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  36. Zephir says:

    I can see some fun ahead when the neo nazi Ukranian refugees start arriving on our shores and mingle with our other rag tag mobs of various hued immigrants.

    Then maybe the far left will suddenly realise what nazi really means instead of using it as a term of abuse to all and sundry…..

    [video src="https://videos.dailymail.co.uk/video/mol/2019/06/04/3738495248350166754/640x360_MP4_3738495248350166754.mp4" /]

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  37. Jeff says:

    Okay, I’m trying to look on the bright side…

    Perhaps some good could come from Russia’s invasion of the Ukraine. It just might wake us up and get us behaving like adults. I think that for far too long we have had uninspiring and insipid politicians and a pathetically flaccid media, fretting about climate change and posers worrying about “personal pronouns”. Western democracies have become a bad joke.

    We’ve turned daft kids like Greta into plaster saints, hanging on every silly syllable, but this is serious. It’s time for the grown-ups to regain control.

    Britain is built on oil, coal and gas. It’s under our feet and in the sea. We have the lot at our disposal, enough for many decades, but we have become obsessed with bloody windmills and solar panels and therefore (because they’re incredibly unreliable) need to import energy from places like Norway. It’s stupid!

    It could be a whole lot worse, we could be like Germany. In 2016 I attended a wedding in Germany and travelled about a bit, the entire country seemed to be smothered in these ghastly windfarms. Because of this green obsession they’re heavily dependent on imported Russian gas. There’s a pipeline from Russia, still not operational, that could supply energy for up to 26,000,000 German homes. What idiot thought that was a good idea?

    The Ukraine is invaded and Germany is knackered.

    We don’t need to be…

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Jeff – at least we know that putin – russia – is a defined enemy and has to be isolated from the civilised world

      Making the assumption that todays events will remain ‘local ‘

      I dont think it will have any effect on the woke kidults – all theyd do is take selfies of rocket attacks

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  38. Guest Who says:

    QED.

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Any news from China?

      Name of donor: Christine Lee & Co
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  39. Guest Who says:

    A brief moment for bbc jokes…

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  40. Guest Who says:

    Plus… 50 reactions in 6 days.

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    • MarkyMark says:

      2017 ….

      Least we forget how it all works … videos, words, pictures … you don’t get to choose the arrangement …

      Chaos as police stop Hungary migrant train – Gavin Hewitt – BBC -Sep 2015 @53s
      “… the a really distressing incident happened. A women who was carrying a small baby began crying for help (photo of lady carrying baby). One of her companions tried to help her (photo of man with women on track, riot police reaching towards them) Somehow there became a push and a shove with the police. She ended up on the railway lines (by the male refugee dragging her and the baby to the floor, but this is not said) with the riot police trying to pull her back, and this of course inflamed all the other people…”
      -Gavin Hewitt – Sep 2015

      Watch the video and the male refugee (companion trying to help?) drags the women and baby to the floor, by force.

      Even the Mirror (03Sept2015) says “… this refugee couple cradle their tiny baby, after throwing themselves (NO! Male refugee drags women and baby onto train tracks) on train tracks as police try to take them to migrant camps in Hungary”

      Gets better. Two days (05Sept2015) later the Mirror then report it as
      “Refugee who dragged pregnant wife and baby son onto train track did it because ‘death would be better’”

      1. BBC Version uses words and pictures to hide the video version
      2. The Mirror shows the video but uses words to tell a different version

      Can I suggest a little story – “Male refugee forces pregnant women refugee holding child down onto a train track, police drag him away for her safety? Riot police then lift women with child off track with tender arms.”

      https://biasedbbc.org/blog/2017/07/03/start-the-week-open-thread-131/comment-page-3/#comment-849798

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  41. Doublethinker says:

    The West lacks the will, the means and the economic autonomy to deal with aggressors such as Russia or China . Our decadence has sapped our will , our scramble to divert resources from defence towards ever greater feather bedding of ourselves has reduced our military power and globalisation of the supply of every day essentials has rendered us dependent on our enemies .
    The West can huff and puff but to quote Stalin when he was told that the Pope disagreed with his plan, ‘how divisions does the Vatican have?’

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  42. Woodenfish says:

    Today’s BBC news website goes big on the story of the day. Here are the lead headlines on the main pages:

    Home page: RUSSIA LAUNCHES INVASION OF UKRAINE

    World page: RUSSIA LAUNCHES INVASION OF UKRAINE

    Europe page: RUSSIA LAUNCHES INVASION OF UKRAINE

    USA page: WHY ARE BLACK AMERICANS BEING PUNISHED FOR THEIR HAIR?

    Beats me. Is it because they won’t let Sleepy sniff it?

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  43. Fedup2 says:

    Lets not play armchair general …

    But how far does putin go ! ?

    The whole of ukraine ?
    Incidental attack on poland ?
    Half of ukraine then peacekeeping ?

    If we are stll about by the end of the day ?

    Would this have happened under President Trump ?

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Will those rich Russians in London flee London?
      Or will they feel safe knowing that the UK is a paper tiger.

      Stop Russianiophobia – wear a hijab.

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    • vlad says:

      Putin wants regime change, a puppet ruler, and a large chunk of Eastern Ukraine.

      No, it wouldn’t have happened under Trump for a number of reasons, including his military and energy policies which would have left the US and the West in a much stronger position and able to offer real deterrence.

      Trump projected strength; Biden exudes weakness.

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  44. Flotsam says:

    Russia is the enemy without. The enemy within:

    The BBC
    Corbyn
    Smarmer
    The Labour Pairty
    The SNP
    The Greenies

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  45. Fedup2 says:

    Has nut nut addressed the nation yet ? I read on the twitter that he is going to do a Churchill gig – maybe in the number 10 garden ?…

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  46. MarkyMark says:

    Following Tuesday’s surprising announcement that Emily Maitlis and Jon Sopel were leaving the BBC to join LBC, the station has now revealed what’s in store for its other big signing: Tonight with Andrew Marr will air Monday to Thursday from 6pm to 7pm, with the first show set for 7th March. Global also announced ex-BBC politics editor Rob Burley will re-join Marr as his Executive Editor, confirming Guido’s scoop from January…

    Speaking this morning, Marr said:

    “I’ve always thought journalism is about breaking stories, ruffling feathers and having some fun on the way. My new LBC show, Tonight with Andrew Marr is perfectly timed at 6pm, the end of busy political days, and stuffed with great guests, and will do just that. Anyone wanting bland, safe, wearily predictable journalism is strongly advised to look elsewhere.”

    Still no announcements made yet on who will permanently fill Marr’s old Sunday morning slot at the BBC…
    order-order.com
    ……………………
    “… and mould all Europe into a copy of Germany …. a good place to start is to ditch the easy historical comparison (ignore history and you will repeat it) …@1:06 because Angela Merkel is a figure of our here and now and it’s vital to understand her better because she (Merkel) matters more to our future (UK) than, what, 95% of British Politicians.” – BBC’s Andrew Marr 2013

    https://order-order.com/2018/03/05/corbynista-wars-bastani-shanly-excommunicated/#comment-3787926717

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  47. MarkyMark says:

    “Ukraine is a country that for decades has enjoyed freedom and democracy and the right to choose its own destiny

    We – and the world – cannot allow that freedom just to be snuffed out.
    We cannot and will not just look away.” (c) Boris

    …………………
    Batley Grammar School teacher in Prophet row ‘fears he could be killed, still in hiding and refuses to return to work’ (UK)

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    • Doublethinker says:

      Thanks for reminding us that a great evil is in our midst and is protected by our rulers . One day this evil will rise up and devour us from within.

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  48. MarkyMark says:

    2019 ….The Chair of the Intelligence and Security Committee, Dominic Grieve QC MP, has asked an urgent question on the delay of a report investigating Russian influence in British politics.

    On Monday, the Government announced that it would not allow a report examining Russian infiltration into UK politics to be published prior to the dissolution of Parliament. Compiled by the Intelligence and Security Committee (ISC), the report includes analysis from British intelligence agencies and requires clearance from the Government to be released.

    The Chair of the ISC, Dominic Grieve QC MP, has asked ministers for a “credible reason” for the delay.

    https://www.parliament.uk/business/news/2019/november/ministers-questioned-on-the-publication-of-the-intelligence-and-security-committees-report-into-russia/
    …..

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    …..
    New lobby row as former Chancellor Philip Hammond lands job with Saudi finance minister – raising fears he could offer ‘access and influence’ to a foreign government

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