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Huckabee DEMOLISHES Biden and in particular his catastrophic oil policies that have weakened the US and Europe while strengthening Russia.
His comments on Trudeau are worth watching as well.
Oil is not flowing through NordStream2 – yet it is flowing through NordStream1 – ha ha ha @ 6:00
BBC entertainment tweet
@BBCNewsEnts : Eurovision organisers say Russia can compete at this year’s contest, despite the country’s invasion of Ukraine.
I’ll spare you the horrible photo.
(BTW embedded tweets do still show up for me even when I ‘m not logged in
I’m on Chrome in Windows 10)
They could field the Red Choir singing ‘Boom Bang A Bang’ and still get more points than the U.K.
maskirovka lit. ’disguise’ is a military doctrine developed from the start of the twentieth century. The doctrine covers a broad range of measures for military deception, from camouflage to denial and deception
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_military_deception
Malcolm Nance replied to someone asking why had the Russians taken Chernobyl
“It powers central North Ukraine.”
http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=62916
His bio says “US Intelligence expert” with 36 years experience”
He wrote this book
Even I know they decommissioned the other 3 reactors a few years ago.
If you read some reports it says a battle near Chernobyl, which isn’t far from the border anyway.
Media just hyping it up as usual.
I could believe it’s still an important grid connection to those towns, but power must come from somewhere else.
I was at a voluntary workcamp about 20 miles away once, building dog kennels for a sanctuary.
Infrastructure – connections – routing?
Chernobyl = Nuclear disaster.
Extremely cheap media trick to get something way out of proportion.
Chernobyl is where the central character who did the right thing and stood up to those nasty Russian male officials and made all the difference was a woman.
Oh no – my mistake. I just remembered : she never existed. The BBC just added her themselves to their ‘true story’.
The BBC didn’t make the excellent Chernobyl series which showed Socialism in its true horror.
There were both male and female nuclear scientists in the Soviet Union and that equality of the sexes was not because of some ideological Socialist dogma, it was because another Socialist called Adolf Hitler murdered so many Russian men that there simply weren’t enough to fill the places in the science institutions.
The Character was a condensed version of all the nuclear scientists and she voiced their input into the catastrophe. This was well explained by the documentary makers as to why they had to do it and to be honest, I had no issue with it.
My mistake : for some reason I thought it was BBC production.
But as I watched it, the woman stood out like a sore thumb to me. So I checked and sure enough she never actually existed. The character is not what bothers me, it is the agenda which invented her and of course she had to be stronger than all the men.
Otherwise I agree : it was a rare treat these days.
John,
But, was she black?
If the BBC had indeed made it as I erroneously said then it would have been much worse and at least one of the scientists would definitely have been black.
XR is conflicted on nuke power.
Maybe they are going to drop Kerry on the smouldering remains.
Anyway, the Indy has captured the nation.
I have to say that in some respects I have some sympathy with Russia in protecting it’s borders.
Imagine if the EU decided to move money, troops and armaments into Scotland and Ireland and considered removing themselves from the UK with the blessing of their respective “leaders” how would England see this?
The principle of the Ukraine joinging the EU and allowing any future EU army to set up military bases – and allow American bases – on the border with Russia is along the same lines as the Cuban missile crisis.
And I’m quite certain the EU grasped at the possibility with greedy, megalomaniac eyes at the prospect of greatly increasing their empire.
Putin has done what Putin does : react decisively and brutaly to prevent it. Anyone who saw how he dealt with ISIS would have expected this. The Russians didn’t have to relay pictures back to base of insurgents carrying AK47’s before they were authorised to fire. They just obliterated the local area along with anyone in it.
I don’t agree with what Putin does any more than I agree with what the EU have done. But that is what I see has happened.
Of course Putin has been given the confidence to do it by the extreme weakness of the West. Something the BBC are as guilty of causing as anybody else – with their constant efforts to destroy our society and replace it with their BLM-style utopia.
But the greatest crime of all here is what the Left have done to get Biden into power and Trump out. That is the reason Russia is so confident. Biden was humiliated by his actions in Afghanistan (though the BBC will never admit it) and Putin judges he will not risk that again. That’s why Trump called him a ‘genius’. As was Hitler. But the Left are still playing the same game and distorting that to mean Trump agrees with him.
We’ve all been saying for a long time about how Putin would be laughing at the ridiculous state of our woke Western society now. This is just what happens next. It’s how nature works.
UK’s totalitarian wokerati are communism’s useful idiots and HELPING Putin- BERNARD INGHAM
“We seem to have bred a generation that wants for nothing except common sense. How else can you view their hypersensitivity that causes crackpot institutions to feel obliged to issue warnings that people might be upset by Shakespeare or even Enid Blyton.
What is really worrying is the totalitarian nature of the wokerati. They seek to enforce their will on the nation and in the process suppress – i.e. cancel – free thinkers while re-writing our glorious history.
Nobody would think, for example, that Britain was the first to abolish slavery, enforced by the Royal Navy.
But the ultimate hypocrisy of it all is their utter failure to condemn Russian and Chinese abuse of minorities, slavery of the masses or their empire-building.
Britain has too many of Communisms’ useful idiots around these days.”
If I was on twitter and could be bothered I would really take that self important, ignorant silly bitch Spring to task for her last comment regarding telling people not to upload misleading videos and pics.
So many examples I could give especially regarding blacks and their clumsy attempts at social engineering, such as BLM riots, white hands holding knives etc of the bbc using misleading pics for lying to people.
(not to mention their programmes and the plethora of blacks in every town and city of the UK at every point in history and so many white women with a black man)
Now THATS offensive, attacking our very notion of who we are as an 86% white indigenous society outside of their metro bubbles.
Deliberately denying us due representation to desperately appease those who will NEVER be satisfied, will only create MORE racial hate and tension.
Our children will increasingly resent lack of opportunities, we are seeing this already with the diversity nazis.
black rap is increasingly the only acceptable form of “music” eg the Superbowl, black actors, black voice artist, blacks levered into university regardless etc etc etc
The UK is one of the most tolerant countries in the world, other immigrants, especially asians, of all colours thrive, so one has to ask what is the defect with black people that they need to be a special case ?
Maybe instead of treating the rest of the country with little more than contempt by giving blacks special status they should be concentrating on their families, lacks of male role models and outlooks via their childrens worship of drug dealers, gangsters and violent mysogynistic art forms and stop blaming the rest of the country.
I wonder how many others – like me – have absolutely no faith at all now in what the MSM are telling us about Ukraine.
I don’t trust anything I read any more. Particularly from the BBC. I know it’s probably not false, but there could be any number of other issues or events which are equally important which I am simply not told about because they don’t want me to know.
The BBC are the worst because ‘facts’ are swamped in paragraphs of irelevant, emotional rhetoric designed to pull your heartstrings in a certain direction.
Just look at their front page, ‘headline bullet points’:
‘At least one apartment building in the capital badly damaged – reports say three people injured’. What a suspicious line : only 3 injured ?. I smell a rat : what else was in that building ?.
‘He says 137 Ukrainian citizens – both soldiers and civilians – died on Thursday’. So 136 soldiers and 1 civilian ? – or 1 soldier and 136 civilians ?. There is a HUGE difference. For some reason, they have been blurring the line between the Army and civilians since the start.
‘Russians seize control of the Chernobyl complex – site of the world’s worst nuclear disaster’. The cheapest of headlines !.
I will get my news by looking around the internet thank you BBC. I do not trust you one bit.
There are those, consiracy minded, that say Russias hand was forced by the increasing expansion of NATO by the US who lacked influence in the EU.
Chernoblyl an obvious target as who knows what a desperate defender might do there….
here is an interesting point, I make no guarantees as to its accuracy, but:
“Ukraine Is A Part Of Russia, Meaning Russia Can Enter At Any Time…
Ukraine is Not a separate country – It was not registered as such, it is a part of Russia, meaning Russia can enter at any time.
The Secretary-General of the United Nations has stated that Ukraine has not applied for border registration since 1991, so the state of Ukraine does not exist….
And we don’t know about it!!!
04/07/2014 UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon made a stunning statement, the distribution of which in Ukrainian media and the Internet is banned. The conflict between the two countries was discussed at the session of the UN Security Council. From this, the following conclusion was drawn:
Ukraine has not registered its borders since 12/25/1991. The UN has not registered the borders of Ukraine as a sovereign state.
Therefore, it can be assumed that Russia is not committing any rights violations in relation to Ukraine.
According to the CIS Treaty, the territory of Ukraine is an administrative district of the
USSR. Therefore, no one can be blamed for separatism and forcibly changing the borders of Ukraine.
Under international law, the country simply has no officially recognized borders.
In order to solve this problem, Ukraine needs to complete the demarcation of borders with neighbouring countries and obtain the agreement of neighbouring countries, including Russia, on their common border. It is required to document everything and sign treaties with all neighbouring states.
The European Union has pledged its support to Ukraine on this important issue and has decided to provide all technical assistance.
But will Russia sign a border treaty with Ukraine? No of course not.
Since Russia is the legal successor of the USSR (this is confirmed by the decisions of international courts on property disputes between the former USSR and foreign countries), the lands on which Ukraine, Belarus and Novorossiya are located belong to Russia, and nobody has the right to be without them Russia’s consent to dispose of this area.
Basically, now all Russia has to do is declare that this area is Russian and that everything that happens in this area is an internal matter of Russia.
Any interference will be seen as a measure against Russia. On this basis, they can annul the elections of May 25, 2014 and do what the people want!
According to the Budapest Memorandum and other agreements, Ukraine has no borders. The state of Ukraine does not exist (and has never existed!).
Alexander Panin”
Yesterday I heard an interview with someone from Manchester, who had spoken to their family, the family had mentioned about everything that was going on.
Incredible that the family could be everywhere in Ukraine and know all the facts, ie military targets had been taken out, and such detail, maybe just hearsay
“Ukraine invasion: Charities urge UK to welcome thousands of refugees”
Our hotels are already full thanks to our Home Secretary , Border Farce and the lifeboat ferry service. We are full of false asylum seekers.
Hello Taffman
The government during covid had been trying to get us to holiday at home, I’m unsure where “home” is anymore
Hacking collective Anonymous appears to declare war on Putin after Russia invades Ukraine
Multiple Russian government websites were intermittently unavailable on Thursday
The “YourAnonNews” Twitter account, which boasts 6.5 million followers, made the declaration on Thursday, saying that the hacking group is “currently involved in operations against the Russian Federation.”
https://www.foxnews.com/us/hacking-collective-anonymous-declare-war-putin-russia-invades-ukraine
Russias view, for what it is worth:
Russia’s Foreign Ministry says it wants to end the 8-year bloodbath in Donbass that both Ukraine and the West turned a blind eye to. Moscow claims this is culmination of 8 year Ukrainian war
The West spent eight years ignoring the “sea of blood” in Donbass while arming Ukraine, and now claims Moscow is the aggressor when it stepped in to end the conflict, Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova told RT on Thursday.
Russian President Vladimir Putin announced a military operation in Ukraine in the early hours of Thursday, claiming it was necessary to “demilitarize and de-nazify” the neighbor. Kiev accused Russia of aggression, while the US, EU and NATO have called it an “unprovoked” invasion. Moscow insists this is not the case.
Donetsk and Lugansk broke away from Ukraine in 2014, after the West-backed coup ousted the democratically elected government in Kiev. Zakharova noted that the two self-proclaimed republics held a referendum eight years ago, saying they did not want to remain in Ukraine, but both Moscow and the West rejected this and tried to put the “broken” country back together.
Russian military attack on Ukraine: How we got there READ MORE: Russian military attack on Ukraine: How we got there
When asked about President Volodymyr Zelensky’s statement that Ukraine wanted peace, Zakharova wondered why Ukraine was arming itself and refusing to negotiate with the Donbass.
In announcing the operation, Putin said the “main objective is to stop the escalation of the war that’s been going on for eight years, and to stop the war,” Zakharova told RT in an exclusive interview.
“Russia did not commit aggression of any kind,” Zakharova insisted. “This did not start yesterday. There’s a sea of blood that’s appeared over the past 8 years,” she added, referring to the conflict in the Donetsk and Lugansk regions, which Russia on Monday recognized as independent states.
“If Ukraine wanted peace, why did they get all these weapons” from all over the world, the Foreign Ministry spokeswoman told RT, adding, “It was clear that these were offensive weapons. Who were they fighting? Their own people in southeast Ukraine, and spoke often about seizing Crimea.” The peninsula voted to rejoin Russia in March 2014, but Ukraine and its Western backers have refused to recognize this, calling it an “annexation.”
https://www.rt.com/russia/550529-ukraine-war-eight-years-zakharova/
Divisions in Ukraine go beyond Donetsk and Lugansk, Zakharova added, accusing armed groups with Nazi-era symbols – such as the notorious Azov Battalion – of having influence over much of the country.
For years, she said, Western media so concerned over human rights in places like South Sudan and Myanmar kept silent on all this, ignoring that more than 13,000 people have died in the Donbass – many of them civilians. While Russia provided them with humanitarian aid, Kiev besieged them by cutting off trade, finance, and even utilities. Zakharova noted that the water canal towards Crimea is now once again operational after Ukraine “criminally” shut it off years ago.
It is now time that Al Beeb and the woke people ‘woke up’ . There is a real world out there and it’s not very ‘kind’. What is maxincony going to say about that ?
The winner takes it all in the news clichés edition
New Home Office figures for illegal migration came out today and – just about – make one of those frontpage, minor bottom section, reports in the Telegraph: ‘Three in four illegal entries via small boat… there were 36,792 “irregular” migrations to the UK last year‘ – considering how few of these illegal border crossers will ever be deported, I reckon “irregular migrations to the UK” is now a fairly reasonable term for what we used to call illegal entrants. That latter description implies some official will toward or channel – if you’ll excuse the pun – let’s instead say measure – of legal expulsion were likely – which we know full well not to be the case.
Good day to bury bad news?
‘£10 pint on way..‘ – warns the Daily Star. Good news, however, for some west London football fans: ‘Chelsea’s Abramovich avoids sanctions‘ (Telegraph) – soon you’ll need to be a Russian oligarch to afford a drink or to fill the car: ‘Pumps panic‘ (Daily Star)
I suppose at this point I’ve exhausted all the scant “other news” on our national daily frontpages and will have to go there… Oh, sorry, I almost neglected a snippet just come in from neutral Sweden: ‘Abba not fab at love‘ (Daily Star) – ah, those famous boys and girls in the Eurovision-winning Waterloo band – seems their love lives were almost as tangled as those of transatlantic folk/rockers Fleetwood Mac.
Philip Johnston writing in the Telegraph sets the media mood for us: ‘Prepare for the return of existential dread‘ – I guess he refers to Cold War-style worries about nuclear war – funnily enough, it has only been about a week since Boris declared the end of the Pandemic…
So let’s pack Dimbles the teddy bear and our bloody plimsoll (Trade Mark the TV news satire Drop the Dead Donkey c1990s) and join the press pack for a round of Foreign Bang-Bang (Trade Mark Kelvin MacKenzie on Newsnight)
We look for news but find propaganda. Two threads to keep the message simple for us.
The photo of a bloodied elderly Ukrainian female. That’s on the frontpage of the Guardian, Times, Mirror, Sun, Mail, Express, Star and giveaway Metro. As far as I can tell she isn’t the same granny that was toting a Kalashnikov just last week.
Second thread is a cartoon of Putin in the guise of a certain well-known and much analogised twentieth century failed Austrian painter of ill repute – Daily Star, feebie Metro and Telegraph.
The left-leaning ‘i’ newspaper likes to think they do things differently and go with a pic of refugees and the headline: ‘Families flee as war comes to Europe‘ – plus their distinctive set of bullet points. Just in case you didn’t get the full sense of the refugee message our BBC has this for you: ‘Ukraine invasion: Charities urge UK to welcome thousands of refugees‘
Which is only fair – in a sense – since we in the west started this thing when we toppled the pro-Putin Ukrainian president in a coup and thretened to absorb the territory into NATO and the EU. Sadly, unlike the oft shirtless Putin, our leaders are all mouth and trousers.
Toady robinson interviews the UK Defence Secretary – Wallace . For once he was allowed to speak
Wallace reported that russia failed on day one . Robinson of course challenged the minister – and the fool suggested using air support to really get a war going .
Robinson ambushed wallace with a Ukrainian MP demanding a ‘ no fly zone ‘
I was getting echoes of Chris Morris and ‘its war’ already described in this thread and others . Seems the BBC wants WW3 –
I cannot believe that Robinson is being allowed to play such a dangerous game just for a headline or ‘award ‘. …
Just think – this time last week it was about aircraft landing in heavy winds ….
Toenails gets more ridiculous each day.
But the state broadcaster actively trying to drive idiotic policy like this using desperate proxies should be nipped in the bud.
Any odd pol somewhere suggested a rucksack of diversity should make its way to the forecourt of W1A, to be ‘posed’ to Timmeh!?
Seems closer to the truth.
The media is the comedy act.
He really is a bloody fool.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/08/30/article-1307321-0AF64C57000005DC-679_634x425.jpg
The Day Today – WAR!
Germany to stop NordStream 1 as well as 2? Notice no.1 not mentioned on BBC.
Nord Stream (Russian: Северный поток, Severny potok) is a system of offshore natural gas pipelines in Europe, running under the Baltic Sea from Russia to Germany. It includes two pipelines running from Vyborg in northwestern Russia to Lubmin near Greifswald in northeastern Germany forming the original Nord Stream (also known as Nord Stream 1
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The EU have treated the UK over Brexit worse than any sanctions on Russia.
Like before with Iran you do not apply sanctions against named individual but anybody that is Russian.
Kicking Russia out of SWIFT will not work, all that will happen they will transfer funds to China for example then onward to Russia. Only damage is an extra transfer fee.
MM,
But it will make the rest of the World make a choice between Swift and any Russian/Chinese alternative. Put starkly, I’ll bet on the World keeping Swift. Who would put any money into Russia and /or the Chinese thieves. Unless you’re taking a back-hander of course.
Samantha Cameron: Chinese factories can be better than British ‘sweat shops’
Cameron said her fashion label Cefinn is manufactured in China because British factories failed the audit
By
Anita Singh,
ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT EDITOR
26 June 2020 • 7:27pm
Samantha Cameron
Samantha Cameron, pictured last year, spoke to Lisa Armstrong at the Stella Live digital festival CREDIT: Paul Grover
Some of Britain’s factories have lower standards than those in China, Samantha Cameron has claimed, during a discussion about “sweat shop” conditions in the UK.
The fashion designer and wife of the former Prime Minister, David Cameron, uses factories in China, Eastern Europe and Portugal to manufacture clothes for her Cefinn fashion label.
Appearing at the Stella Live online festival in conversation with the Telegraph’s head of fashion, Lisa Armstrong, Mrs Cameron was asked if she could make the brand more British.
She said: “There was a very particular price point I was going for. I didn’t want luxury prices, I wanted to be at the top end of the High Street. We found it very challenging to find any factories who could work with us within that price point.
“And also a slight issue where, because we don’t have a very established, industrial fashion industry here, some of the factories that we looked at, if I’m being really honest, would not have passed our audit.
“I think people would assume that if you audited a factory in the UK it would all be perfect because it’s the UK, and if you audited a factory in China then it might not be, but actually that’s not necessarily the case.
“Because if you are working in a country where there is a lot of manufacturing of fashion, you’ll have really high quality factories, and we just don’t have a big enough industry here to have that spread.”
Mrs Cameron stressed that she had not “found or looked at every factory there might be in the UK”.
An audience member noted that “sadly there are sweat shops in the UK”. Asked if that was the point she was making, Mrs Cameron replied: “That’s what I’m saying, is that when we audited factories in the UK, they didn’t pass the audit. And that might be around health and safety [or] pay.”
Canadian banks restrict funds to trucker protest groups
Published: Feb. 17, 2022 at 11:27 a.m. ET
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/canadian-banks-restrict-funds-to-trucker-protest-groups-11645115277
If we start seeing refugees coming from the Ukraine I would bet that the vast majority will be women and children.
These will be genuine refugees as opposed to all the young men we are being flooded with.
Boris Johnson Pledges to Admit 3 Million From Hong Kong to U.K.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/03/world/europe/boris-johnson-uk-hong-kong-china.html
….
How Angela Merkel’s great migrant gamble paid off
Five years ago, as more and more refugees crossed into Europe, Germany’s chancellor proclaimed, ‘We’ll manage this.’ Critics said it was her great mistake – but she has been proved right
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/30/angela-merkel-great-migrant-gamble-paid-off
…….
Germany offers asylum seekers up to €1,200 each to voluntarily return to their home countries
Government budgets €40m for programme amid huge backlog in asylum claims
Lizzie Dearden
Friday 03 February 2017
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/germany-offer-asylum-seekers-1200-euros-voluntarily-return-home-countries-refugees-crisis-merkel-middle-east-syria-iran-iraq-a7561701.html
Hong Kongers, despite their plight, will finally destroy the NHS and the GP.
Viva Frei 90 min interview with George Szamuely a Yugoslavia expert from last night
Different outlook to “Putin is a bad man”
.. “It’s not really about Russian and Ukrainian ethnicity.
.. Ukraine’s reformer president had turned bad, gone in with corrupt ones, not honoured the Minsk peace agreement etc.”
.. https://youtu.be/bx3J6UM7z-M
The difference being the Ukranians stand and fight and not run away to claim UK housing benefits by pretending to be a child
From another site:
“My partner is from Kiev and her mother lives there. It’s very complex. She is an ethnic Russian, and they woke up one day and told her they were Ukrainian and forced to learn and speak a language alien to them. Don’t buy all the western rhetoric about it being a peace-loving democracy. It is profoundly corrupt and alarmingly nationalistic. “
“they woke up one day … forced to learn and speak a language alien to them” – sounds a bit militant?
Cameron’s call for immigrants to learn English comes as Government cuts English classes for immigrants
14 April 2011
This whole situation is complex there are no black and white right and wrongs here
The bbc on deals in wrongs of color, and… not color.
And being uniquely funded and exempt, this will not trouble them.
Toenails should be denied entry back into the country on the basis of being laughable.
Z,
“….they woke up one day and told her they were Ukrainian and forced to learn and speak a language alien to them”
I saw exactly the same in Latvia in 1991 before the Russians actually left.
Germany by using Russian gas are paying to invade Ukraine?
Note the increasing ‘noise’ of calls for the US to become militarily involved more in Ukraine. So far the US has largely declined – a decision made by military people (hopefully) NOT White House – thank goodness for obvious reasons.
I see the Grand Plan as being, Putin kicks off with the threat of more things European after he’s overwhelmed Ukraine. Which is where the essence of the Grand Plan becomes clearer: separate US from Europe – Europe will be tied up with Europe and the Thugs of the World, Putin & Co. while the, ‘Thieves of the World’, the Chinese, go for Taiwan while Europe is in, ‘Charity starts at Home’ mode. Taiwan, not in Nato hence the European excuse for non-involvement in Taiwan is predicted. US will probably solely have to deal with China. Only exception will be the UK and its Navy. Any bets?
I discounted any likely/unlikely help from India/Japan etc as relatively ‘unknowns’.
What’s happening Taiwan wise at present, anybody know?
I was in China a few years ago, there were plenty of US planes around the South China Sea then
UK Navy is now in the English channel counting dinghies.
Flight Radar…
https://www.flightradar24.com/FA50/2aef1eef
https://www.flightradar24.com/airport/svo/departures
Really really difficult to make any kind of sense of the disinformation, spin, narrative and downright lies of the media in the past few days. They say that truth is the first casualty in war, but in the West truth and the media never existed to begin with unless it was a story about a cute stoat or a rabbit.
I am seeing constant attacks on Vladimir Putin, belittling him, calling him derranged or other such, yet I look at the Wests Socialist leaders and find it is they who are derranged.
I believe Putin has played a blinder here, this was in the planning far longer than the West and its media might like to think, and it was internationally planned. It might actually date back as far back as the Obama administration, which some say is continuing to this day.
The West is now finished. It is like the Titanic after hitting the iceberg, with the Captain believing his ship is unsinkable, and yet the inevitable is about to take place regardless of his naive belief.
Reports say that on top of China taking 100 million Tonnes of coal for power generation from Russia it will take all the gas and the oil which it previously supplied to Europe. There also reports China has agreed to take 100% of the agricultural production of the Ukraine, which previously would have been supplied to world markets.
Analysts predict that gas prices will see a 5 fold increase, and for the majority heating a home will be unaffordable. Also remember that because virrtually all UK power generation is by gas, this will suffer an even larger increase to maybe 6 fold what it is today.
Add in at least a doubling in the cost of food prices and the West is no longer a sustainable economy in its current form.
The only possible solution governments have is to reopen coal mines and rebuild coal fired power stations in the hope of keeping the lights on, because at the moment aside from the cost of gas, is the reality that there might not be enough of it to keep the lights on.
At a time when Boris the bottler and his gang of cowardly useless incompetent idiots should be addressing the home front, they are drunk on posturing and making empty perjoritives towards a man who has completely outplayed them.
And so they will carry on with their Socialist imperatives waving their rainbow flags and squealing about ekwalitee as the country sinks around them, like that other Socialist in a bunker in Berlin, taking his country to absolute ruin and believing right until the bitter end that he was right, and was going to win.
This is what Socialism always produces, total and utter failure and destruction. There isn’t a Socialist success story to name in all it’s 170 year history, unless you count its fabulous efficiency in killing people as success.
Thoughtful, yes Putin has invaded Ukraine but in so doing he has created his own Afghanistan for Russia. There is no guarantee he will win in Ukraine (it is possible ethnic Russians in E.Ukraine do not want a return to the Soviet era and to be part of Russia) and Ukrainians may resist to the point of inflicting many casualties on Russian forces. When young Russians start arriving home in body bags, public sentiment in Russia may turn against Putin.
Heroes return to the Mother Land – will be the Russian stance.
Again you are underestimating Putin and what his plans might be.
There will be no returning bodybags because the Russian Army have brough mobile crematoria deliberately to disguise the losses.
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Other intelligence from the USA suggest that Putin has a plan to basically expell almost tge entire population into neighbouring EU countries which are so stupid they will allow them in without question.
You can’t have much of a terrorist / guerrilla war when the population is in a neighbouring country.
Again this man is not stupid, like Western politicians and he isn’t playing by the rules pushing millions of refugees into the EU will further destabilise Europe which is already destroyed, it’s just its leaders don’t know it or won’t acknowledge it.
“You can’t have much of a terrorist / guerrilla war when the population is in a neighbouring country.” – protests outside government buildings increase.
Thoughtful, don’t think so: Putin wants a return to the Soviet era that his people in Russia and in wider Eastern Europe want to leave behind. Didn’t know about the mobile Crematoria although will not families ask questions when their sons don’t come home on leave? There will be increasing numbers of awkward questions to be answered.
I expect smart Afghanis are doing a roaring trade in antique 19th century elephant guns, found to be very effective against Russian helicopters during the Russian incursion there. Population replacement is an old Communist trick but it tends to build resentment in the long term that tends not to do well for those who decree it.
The surprise suggestion from an apparently slightly pro-Putin/Russia Jonny Dymond on TWatO was that Putin might try to negotiate a peace settlement as soon as Putin can say he has control of Kyiv.
BBC:
No mention of democracy under attack in Canada ?
UnCommon Core: The Causes and Consequences of the Ukraine Crisis
John J. Mearsheimer, the R. Wendell Harrison Distinguished Service Professor in Political Science and Co-director of the Program on International Security Policy at the University of Chicago, assesses the causes of the present Ukraine crisis, the best way to end it, and its consequences for all of the main actors. A key assumption is that in order to come up with the optimum plan for ending the crisis, it is essential to know what caused the crisis. Regarding the all-important question of causes, the key issue is whether Russia or the West bears primary responsibility.
Haven’t got time to watch 75 minutes of Mearsheimer right now but I hope he points at the EU. It was the EU that caused the Civil War in Ukraine in the first place and gave Putin a mandate to invade.
Putin/U.S.S.R. = von der Leyen/E.U.S.S.R.
TOADY Watch #1 – in which the large kettle calls the pot black
I listened to TOADY from just 6.30 to 7 a.m. and in the clip from Parliament yesterday there was a wonderfully ironic and humourous moment when Ian Blackford MP, leader of the SNP in Parliament, called Vladimir Putin a Nazi, a National Socialist.
So, Ian Blackford, do you agree that the First Minister in Scotland, Nicola Sturgeon, is a Nazi? Not the sort of question that a BBC presenter will ask although maybe Nick Robinson, after he has over-dosed on adrenaline in Kyiv, will put on his flak jacket again in Broadcasting House and ask Blackford that very question?
Anyone that eats sausages stuffed with blood and sheeps lungs needs a closer look IMO
Eeee Lad! Nowt wrong w’Haggis, neeps and tatties. Black pudding is consumed in Lancashire. As for that Blackford pudding, well that’s a different matter …..
Hang on…do you have a keen interest in Prussian war memorabilia ? 🙂
Zephir, no, although I did have a share certificate from way before the Russian revolution.
Nothing more ridiculous than a pathetic old git trying to sound tough. Grandad dancing.
Spittin’ image.
Two useless imbeciles, but at least one of them can play the banjo!
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Turkey to provide materials to Crimea – Turkey still want EU access?
https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/shipid:286290/zoom:7
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Erdogan: Russia attack on Ukraine ‘heavy blow’ to regional peace
Ankara has long sought to act as a mediator in the conflict between Ukraine and Russia.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/24/erdogan-russia-attack-ukraine-heavy-blow-regional-peace
MOSCOW, Sept 29 (Reuters) – Russian President Vladimir Putin told his Turkish counterpart Tayyip Erdogan on Wednesday that Turkey is shielded from a gas crisis, which has gripped Europe, thanks to the Russian-built TurkStream gas pipeline.
Speaking at the start of talks with Erdogan in the Russian Black Sea resort of Sochi, Putin also thanked the Turkish president for his support of the pipeline, which runs to Turkey from Russia via the Black Sea.
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/putin-says-turkey-safe-gas-crisis-thanks-turkstream-pipeline-2021-09-29/
September 29, 2021
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Protocol regarding Turkey’s membership to NATO was signed on 17 October 1951. Law on the accession of Turkey to the North Atlantic Treaty was endorsed on 18 February 1952 and Turkey became a NATO member together with Greece.
Turkey? It’s totally financially broke.
With about $13.06 million, Turkey is among the top ten allies that have contributed the most to NATO’s defense expenditure in 2021. NATO also describes Turkey as a vital contributor to the Resolute Support mission with its 600-strong contingent in Afghanistan.14 Jun 2021
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I can’t be just $13.06 million,
“NATO common-funded budgets and programmes are funded by direct contributions and equate to only 0.3% of total Allied defence spending, an equivalent of around EUR 2.5 billion to run the entirety of the Organization”
Turkey’s share of that is 4.7%
ie €117.5million
UK 11.3%, US 16.3%
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_67655.htm
In addition each country spends billions on their own forces/equipment.
Maybe they wrap up their own spending and call it NATO spending.
The Erdogan Government only just stopped demanding that all gold owners in the country, hand it in.
“Vital”
Good luck with that……….
I managed my 5 minutes of the Today programme this morning. Robinson was interviewing someone, I assume a minister, at 8.20. The person being interviewed was giving the reasons that yesterday hadn’t all gone Russia’s way. Now whether it was to provide disinformation, or to bolster up the people in Ukraine, or was totally true isn’t the point, I assume the Minister had good reason to say what he was saying. But Nick Robinson immediately came back with ‘it wasn’t what we are hearing’. Had I been the minister I would have reminded Nick of the fall of Baghdad especially the airport by the Americans when the BBC’s ‘sources’ hadn’t exactly been accurate.
However Nick ‘had to hurry the Minister on’, because he had a Ukraine MP on the line, but Nick then spent 2 minutes introducing her, which could more valuably spent with the Minister. (Or it would if Nick was able to ask anything worthwhile). Meanwhile I arrived at my destination and switched off.
Yes, it was a Minister on Today – Ben Wallace.
INTERVIEW ….. BBC’s Nick Robinson tells Boris Johnson to ‘stop talking’ during tense Radio 4 interview
https://metro.co.uk/2021/10/05/bbcs-nick-robinson-tells-boris-johnson-to-stop-talking-15368206/
‘it wasn’t what we are hearing’ – from RT News or Corbyn?
He insisted there had never been “a single piece of editorial interference of any kind from RT” in the programme.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-60508620
Firm behind Alex Salmond’s TV show brings in £330,000
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/firm-behind-alex-salmonds-tv-show-brings-in-330-000-hqtr0gx7f
The production company behind Alex Salmond’s Kremlin-funded TV show has made more than £330,000 since it launched four years ago.
Slainte Media, founded by the former first minister and the ex-SNP MP Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh, has made a steady profit since 2017 when it launched The Alex Salmond Show on RT, the state-owned channel formerly known as Russia Today.
BBC don’t care one iota what happens
They’ve got a black man in front of the camera, job done
Ukranians must be wondering why Mogadishu wants to know whats happening there, not being party to the diversity Nazis.
RT News goes offline – blocked –
https://www.rt.com/uk/
Wonder if BBC news has been banned in Russia?
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Russia bans British airlines from its airspace
Published20 minutes ago
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60505417
em https://www.rt.com/uk/ works on this computer
Works on incognito.
1s go.
Second go it fails.
Always works from here
You’d get an error if #1 your provider is blocking it
or #2 RT’s servers were under heavy load from a DDS attack
I posted this early this morning, it may or may not be connected :
Hacking collective Anonymous appears to declare war on Putin after Russia invades Ukraine
Multiple Russian government websites were intermittently unavailable on Thursday
The “YourAnonNews” Twitter account, which boasts 6.5 million followers, made the declaration on Thursday, saying that the hacking group is “currently involved in operations against the Russian Federation.”
https://www.foxnews.com/us/hacking-collective-anonymous-declare-war-putin-russia-invades-ukraine
Russia agreed to strengthen LNG imports to India, and the possible utilization of the Northern Sea Route for energy supplies, including crude and gas. “We have set a target of $30 billion in trade and $50 billion in investment by 2025,” Modi said.
No doubt a complimentary tikka masala with pilau rice and a couple of naan bread thrown in if Putin is ever in Bradford.
Rishi to put all Russian workers on furlough until peace in the Ukraine is established.
https://hotellook.com/cities/london/reviews/russians_hotels
One of the problems of independent travelers is the language barrier, so Hotellook offers you a unique opportunity to find a hotel with Russian-speaking personnel in London. Cheap hotel rates here start from $123 and reach $721, and an average rating is 9.5 points out of 10.
sanctions ?
#Putin shot down Malaysia MH17 killing 100 EU\UK citizens.
Putin used chemical weapon in UK in assassination attempt of Skripal.
Putin isn’t scared of #NATO or sanctions.
Who is in Putin’s pocket ?
#1 The UK cos it needs to fly over Russia
.. that’s the nature of geography
#2 The EU cos it uses loads and loads of gas
and the only realistic supply is Russia
In the long term it could frack and buy in LNG from the states but the EU has resisted that.
So whilst the FBPE lot scream that Farage and Trump are in Putin’s pocket
that is a distraction away from the fact that the EU got itself into Putin’s pocket,
.. by pushing the GreenDream and Germany closing its nuclear.
Stew, we used to buy our LNG from north Africa and Indonesia.
I see Tucker Carlson is making a complete arse of himself on Fox over the Ukraine invasion. He clearly knows absolutely nothing about US history, and has never even heard of Pearl Harbour, much less the events which led up to it.
He appears to take the view that the sanctions placed on Russia are a major inconvenience to Americans because petrol is going up in price.
He unbelievably takes the piss out of Democrats for telling Americans they are going to suffer some price rises for the American position of Sanctions against Russia and his allies. He opposes these sanctions and feels that it is not in Americas interest.
Clearly the man is a complete fool who has learning nothing from history and has zero command of world events outside the borders of the USA.
Worse still is that there is loads upon loads of criticism which can be levelled against the Biden administration, and the Obama one which preceeded it over setting the stage for this invasion, but he doesn’t mention any of it.
The USA is a country which has arranged itself to be incapable of functioning without the motorcar, where a walk to the shops for a newspaper is not even possible, and dependence on cheap fuel is a part of life.
It is an unsustainable model now and it will have to change going forward.
NHS staff in Sussex have been bollocked by the deputy CEO Karen Breen for voicing discontent with a new training scheme that will be open to women, BAME and disabled employees only.
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Equality, Diversity & Inclusion Manager Band 7
Warrington and Halton Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust
Job Reference: 370-ADM7HROD-4067
Employer:Warrington and Halton Hospitals NHS Foundation TrustDepartment:Be The ChangeLocation:WarringtonSalary:£40,057 to £45,839 pa
https://www.jobs.nhs.uk/xi/vacancy/916934031
If only we had our own gas supplies…oh wait
the purple hair mob won’t let us touch them
Thanks XR stoodents and perrenially unemployed protesters, for that
Stick to looking after your underfed mongrel dog on a rope, white lightning cider and growing your dreadlocks in future please
KISANFU, Democratic Republic of Congo — Just up a red dirt road, across an expanse of tall, dew-soaked weeds, bulldozers are hollowing out a yawning new canyon that is central to the world’s urgent race against global warming.
For more than a decade, the vast expanse of untouched land was controlled by an American company. Now a Chinese mining conglomerate has bought it, and is racing to retrieve its buried treasure: millions of tons of cobalt.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/20/world/china-congo-cobalt.html
The show that allows the Whoopie racist:
Joy Behar complains Russia-Ukraine war making her European vacation plans uncertain
“Estimates are 50,000 Ukrainians will be dead or wounded,” co-host Sonny Hostin first told viewers, “and that this is going to start a humanitarian crisis, a refugee crisis in Europe. We’re talking about 5 million people that are going to be displaced.
Behar then reacted to Hostin’s remarks.
“Well, I’m scared of what’s going to happen in Western Europe too,” Behar said. “You know, you plan a trip. You want to go there. I want to go to Italy for four years and I haven’t been able to make it because of the pandemic.
“And now this,” she said, referring to the Ukraine invasion. “It’s like, ‘What’s gonna happen there?’”
Travel after Brexit: How will it affect my holidays to the EU?
Published28 December 2020
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46627083
Champagne anti semites
As a Black Jewish woman, Whoopi Goldberg’s suspension from The View saddened me
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/whoopi-goldberg-suspended-the-view-black-jewish-b2006302.html
EU blocks our bid to punish Russia: Anger as union refuses to kick Moscow out of global bank payment system while West imposes sanctions over Ukraine war
Boris Johnson pressed the case to G7 leaders for suspending Russia from Swift
President Joe Biden last night indicated the opposition had come from EU states
Downing Street declined to comment on which countries opposed the move
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10549337/Anger-EU-refuses-kick-Moscow-global-bank-payment-system.html
“Boris Johnson pressed the case to G7 leaders for suspending Russia from Swift” – Boris acts tough knowing others won’t do it?
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Downing Street declined to comment on which countries opposed the move
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Nordstream 1 into Germany is still flowing.
Uefa poised to move Champions League final from St Petersburg
https://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/article/s/uefa-poised-move-champions-league-final-st-petersburg
Eurovision organisers say Russia can compete in the 2022 competition – despite the invasion of Ukraine
https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/eurovision-organisers-say-russia-can-23213242
and here we are …
You go looking for one single post box and then….is that not just always the way ?
are they born with bloody placards in their hands ?
Cultural appropriation using English!