Start the Week 11 July 2022

The BBC has helped bring down a Prime Minister .Who does the BBC target next on the ‘unapproved ‘ list ? A harmless ‘Culture Secretary’ perhaps ?

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  1. StewGreen says:

    Last week’s R4 Moral Maze was basically “Should ‘Unacceptable’ Opinions be banned ?”

    They picked Joe Mulhall as a guest
    He’s from the Socialist front group Hatey Not Hopey
    In fact such groups often seem to be a core of 1 or 2 people, and he is there

    He tweeted
    last night to discuss the importance of freedom of speech.
    I argued that by marginalising the most EXTREME and hateful voices we will actually increase the diversity of voices in public debate.

    He said that “women, migrants, people of colour, LGBT people’s voice’s are SUPPRESSED”
    (he was challenged on stating that as FACT)
    cos the presence of a minority nationalists makes them feel uncomfortable, so the
    When asked how you decide what is CORRECTSPEAK ie which minority opinions should be banned he says society reaches a consensus
    but surely that is the whole point of free speech, that minority opinion get equal opportunities
    You could have said in the 60s that pro gay and pro trans rights people were minority opinion and should have been banned
    And thus today they would still be banned.

    Strangely Mulhall and his group want to be the arbiters of what is a good minority opinion and what is a bad minority opinion.
    Then his group act like a brownshirts mob they label their political opponents with big smear labels and then march in to stop them speaking.

    Consensus is not a good way of finding truth
    If it’s RIGHT that speech rights are to be limited by whether they conform to consensus, then in hard Muslim countries it would right to forbid pro gay messages , to forbid questioning of Islamic dogma, forbidden to speak positively about converting to Christianity etc.

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    • StewGreen says:

      All 4 guest speakers seemed London lefty anti-Brexiteers
      The other 3
      – Prof. Eric Heinze of Queen Mary (his own twitter feed strongly sneers at Boris and Brexit etc. )
      – Jeevun Sandher, Economist & Political Scientist researching inequality (tweets similar to above)
      – James Bloodworth of the lefty Labour publication New Statesman ..we were told he is a VICTIM of mobbing and “even stalked online”
      , but we were not told why .
      I guess he was labelled transphobic or homophobic for speaking about trans males trying to have 100% right into women’ spaces. He was the most reasonable speaker

      The 4 panelists are different to the 4 guests
      One of the panelists lefty Matthew Taylor said “We have antiracism and anti-homophobic laws .. yet OUR institutions are still DOMINATED by white heterosexual people”
      He didn’t even pause to think and Mulhall quickly agree with him

      FFS of course UK institutions are dominated by people of the main skin colour and main sexual orientation.

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    • StewGreen says:

      The prog has hardly any listeners
      Lefties refuse to listen cos they can’t stand the fact 2 of the panel are usually righties
      .. Lefties can’t stand their worldview being contradicted.
      And righties don’t listen to Radio4, cos it’s a lefty propaganda station.

      However one part did get attention. Near the end Jeevun Sandher misquoted research from the Jo Cox charity , a charity which is quite close to Hatey Not Hopey
      A reply tweet gives the chart
      It was not a majority it was 44%
      Furthermore the question wasn’t clear, cos many of the public might wrongly think the words “transwoman” describe a woman who is transitioning to become a man

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      • MarkyMark says:

        Adam and Eve were the first humans, according to the Jewish, Islamic, and Christian religions, and all humans have descended from them. As stated in the Bible, Adam and Eve were created by God to take care of His creation, to populate the earth, and to have a relationship with Him.

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        • BRISSLES says:

          I’ve always thought with that analagy, that the human race would have died off a few generations after it begun, because the gene pool was so small we would start off as village idiots evolving into rabid insanity mentally, and physical deformities.

          We only have to look at the cleft lip deformities when first cousins marry in some communities.

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          • MarkyMark says:

            When Adam and Evan were in the Garden of Eden not many kids were born.

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          • Up2snuff says:

            Brissles, my dear old thing (well, it is the start of the County Cricket Championship) the genes for Adam and Eve were initially perfect. They were designed to live for ever. After ‘The Fall’ with sin in the world the change to human genetics may have come slowly into being over many many generations through a fallen, ie. spoiled, Creation. It is difficult to know, so I was taught, whether the ages attributed to some of the ‘Ancients’ (ie. before Abram) are accurate. There is a school of thought among some Hebrew scholars who are Christians, that the massive age given for Methusaleh, for example, was a measure of the quality of his life. On the other hand he may have had exceedingly good genes! The other big problem – as I was taught – is that Ancient Hebrew (before and up to and including the time of Moses) is notoriously vague.

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        • Thatcherrevolutionary says:

          Not Adam & Steve?

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      • MarkyMark says:

        Gender segregation in Islamic law, custom, law and traditions refers to the practices and requirements in Islamic countries and communities for the separation of men and boys from women and girls in social and other settings. Scholars differ as to whether the Qur’an requires gender segregation, and, if so, the hadith that require it.[1][2][3][4][5] There are diverging opinions among experts in Islamic theology concerning gender segregation. However in countries like Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran, etc. with high Muslim population sex segregation has been executed since old times.

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        • Up2snuff says:

          MM, there was gender segregation in Judaism as well. That is still practised today, with some of the Orthodox Jewish synagogues that I have visited. The men would sit downstairs and participate in the ceremony. The women and children (pre-Barmitzvah) would sit upstairs in the balcony. One of my past Pastors used to recite an Orthodox Jewish prayer as an illustration in his sermons: ‘I thank thee, oh God, that thou hast made me a man and not a woman, a dog or a Gentile’ I think it went. Jewish woman being superior to a dog but a Gentile, irrespective of gender, being inferior to a dog.

          This separation between men and women is still practised today in some congregations in the former Soviet bloc and also in Greece, even in evangelical congregations. It was strange to walk into a Romanian Baptist Church, for example, and find all the women sitting on one side of the building and all the men on the other.

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    • MarkyMark says:

      “Consequently there was a long period during which nearly every thinking man was in some sense a rebel, and usually a quite irresponsible rebel. Literature was largely the literature of revolt or of disintegration. Gibbon, Voltaire, Rousseau, Shelley, Byron, Dickens, Stendhal, Samuel Butler, Ibsen, Zola, Flaubert, Shaw, Joyce — in one way or another they are all of them destroyers, wreckers, saboteurs. For two hundred years we had sawed and sawed and sawed at the branch we were sitting on. And in the end, much more suddenly than anyone had foreseen, our efforts were rewarded, and down we came. But unfortunately there had been a little mistake. The thing at the bottom was not a bed of roses after all, it was a cesspool full of barbed wire.“

      http://orwell.ru/library/articles/notes/english/e_notew

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    • StewGreen says:

      panelist Mona Siddiqui kept saying that it is not a problem when righty people get cancelled ‘they are soon back on another platform with another book’ etc.

      That is gaslighting .. people really do suffer

      And was contradicted by a recent ruling
      “Maya Forstater, who lost her job after claiming people cannot change their biological sex, has won two claims in a fresh employment tribunal following an appeal”

      “A potential job offer and visiting fellowship were withdrawn.
      My biography was taken down from the website when I tried to assert my rights under the Equality Act (victimisation).”
      Thread .. https://twitter.com/MForstater/status/1544638227327471618

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Bit rich from a Muslim – a religion which carries out the ultimate cancellation …

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    • Wild Bill says:

      LGBLT are the ones trying to suppress womans voices it seems to me?

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  2. Thoughtful says:

    Woke Boris the Red, if Putin had been a woman he would not have invaded Ukraine.

    Clealy this woke nutter despite having a history (classics) degree has no idea of history.

    He has obviously never heard of Catherine the Great (nor has the media it appears) was started several wars of expansion, and it gets even worse for dimbo Boris because Britain was directly involved in one of those wars in the Crimea.

    During her reign, Catherine extended the borders of the Russian Empire by some 520,000 square kilometres (200,000 sq mi), absorbing New Russia, Crimea, Northern Caucasus, Right-bank Ukraine, Belarus, Lithuania, and Courland at the expense, mainly, of two powers—the Ottoman Empire and the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth.

    So there you have it, direct proof that the bottlers woke nonsense about toxic masculinity is absolute tosh !

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  3. The Mouse says:

    Thoughtful,

    It’s possible that Catherine the Great self identified as a man or maybe was of fluid gender and could shape shift between male and female depending if she/he/it needed a good dollop of toxic-ness to get through the day. Starmer and the like may have a clue, then again Im sure they have a fence to sit on.

    Maybe there is something to be said about Shakespeare here. There was certainly many men in his plays who were ruthless and evil though probably not one more evil and ruthless than the Lady of the play that should not be mentioned. I wonder if Lady nut-nut has read it.

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  4. MarkyMark says:

    Boris Johnson’s Guarantee
    We will get Brexit done in January and unleash the potential of our whole country.
    I guarantee:

    Extra funding for the NHS, with 50,000 more nurses and 50 million more GP surgery appointments a year.

    20,000 more police and tougher sentencing for criminals.

    An Australian-style points-based system to control immigration.

    Millions more invested every week in science, schools, apprenticeships and infrastructure while controlling debt.

    Reaching Net Zero by 2050 with investment in clean energy solutions and green infrastructure to reduce carbon emissions and pollution.

    We will not raise the rate of income tax, VAT or National Insurance.
    Thank you for supporting our majority Conservative Government so we can move our great country on instead of going backwards.

    BORIS JOHNSON
    PRIME MINISTER

    https://www.conservatives.com/our-plan

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Missed one – I will not lie ( much )

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Much unfinished business there, Boris. If I recall correctly, all we have got so far is the Australian points based-system to control legal immigration and continuing investment in HS2 which is the most hated, it is said, public expenditure programme in the history of the UK. If only you had cracked on a bit more, despite the Pandemic.

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    • Wild Bill says:

      But Covid came along and spoiled everyones plans.

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  5. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Is anyone else experiencing this on biased bbc forum.

    This morning all was working but now, when I click on to the comments I get about 2 or 3 comments come up with light blue and no content above and below.
    I leave it in case it needs time to load but it remains the same.
    I’ve tried on other iPods and it’s the same.

    I noticed it yesterday evening but this morning it was working ok until now.

    Is it my Internet (all other internet sites working normal) or is it something at the biased bbc server end.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      EG
      Yes I got that yesterday – couldn’t log on either – was thinking it’s a while since we had techy so I’ve decided not to write about it …

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    • StewGreen says:

      Try https://biasedbbc.org
      and https://biasedbbc.tv
      Is it the same on both ?

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      • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

        Stew.
        I tried both and the are the same.
        I click on todays threads (page 1) and I scroll down. After about ten comments it goes blue and then scrolling back by just a few comments and it’s also blue.

        screen shot:

        https://ibb.co/6Yr82bG

        If I scroll up from there I also get the blue after a few comments.
        On this page I get all the comments but I think it’s intermittent.

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        • Fedup2 says:

          I think it’s the puter EG …

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        • StewGreen says:

          Oh, I have no quick answer there.
          If you try it on an incognito window
          .. that will show if it’s a cookie issue

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          • Fedup2 says:

            It’s playing up again – blue box – dodgy log on – if there’s anyone with higher access maybe take to the platform thingy ….
            I work on the assumption that sites like this are all on ‘borrowed time ‘ due to the onward crushing of any dissent so – one day – farewell …

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            • Up2snuff says:

              Emmanuel, I sometimes get a pale blue screen but I have dodgy broadband and I think it is the page taking time to load. My PC is not exactly in the ‘Alan Wells’ class, more a sort of average cross country runner type PC.

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              • Fedup2 says:

                I’m running a top Jonnie iPad and two sources of broadband – makes no difference switching or re booting or going through Google – still does the blue when it wants to …

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  6. MarkyMark says:

    BBC photos are of the UK citizens … very strange.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62117348

    1. Main facts and figures
    according to the 2011 Census, the total population of England and Wales was 56.1 million, and 86.0% of the population was White
    people from Asian ethnic groups made up the second largest percentage of the population (at 7.5%), followed by Black ethnic groups (at 3.3%), Mixed/Multiple ethnic groups (at 2.2%) and Other ethnic groups (at 1.0%)
    among the specific ethnic groups, people from the White British ethnic group made up the largest percentage of the population (at 80.5%), followed by Other White (4.4%) and Indian (2.5%)
    from 2001 to 2011, the percentage of the population of England and Wales that was White British decreased from 87.4% to 80.5%, while the Other White group saw the largest increase in their share of the population, from 2.6% to 4.4%
    the percentage of the population from a Black African background doubled from 0.9% in 2001 to 1.8% in 2011
    https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/uk-population-by-ethnicity/national-and-regional-populations/population-of-england-and-wales/latest

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  7. Guest Who says:

    I maintain subscription to various outlets for various reasons.

    Often on a ‘know thy enemy’ basis, which rather ironically they often view as ‘support’.

    Some came by accident as a result of signing up for what I thought was a funny meme or video. Joe.co.uk for instance. One good laugh and then drivel.

    Or this..

    https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/tory-leadership-candidates-ranked-from-fk-no-to-kill-me-now-20220711223165?

    Given the alternatives can be ranked from No Way Growler to ‘Not even if he keeps his undies on’ they are going to struggle emulating the BBC on what the options are.

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    • Wild Bill says:

      Ignore the experts. When I step onto the streets of my Surrey town and the sun’s shining like I’m in Praia da Luz, you can’t fool me. I know where that’s come from.

      All their other tricks haven’t worked so now Europe’s trying to bake us out. For years they’ve heard us say ‘it’s alright for a holiday but I couldn’t live here’ as we traipse around Kos, and now they’re acting on it.

      They know we don’t live in beachside resorts with swimming pools like they do. They know how much we suffer when it’s boiling and there’s no all-inclusive bar handing out iced cocktails.

      Make no mistake, they’re laughing at us. They’ve got our good summer rain and they’re chuckling at the thought of our sunburned faces in the suffocating heat they’ve piped over.

      Bloody Europeans. Is there anything that’s not their fault? I’m voting for whichever Tory promises to sort this sun out.

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  8. digg says:

    The BBC are now fixated on why a few Tory MP’s should be able to choose the next leader, claiming that the people should have a say.

    BBC, that’s not how political parties work, no citizen ever votes for the PM, it’s always been a job for the party to sort out.

    Of course we know their game, let’s have a fairer general election everybody and we might end up with Starmer!

    We see you BBC!

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Corbyn was suspended from Labour Party membership in October 2020 after stating antisemitism in the party had been overstated for political reasons. The membership suspension was lifted a month later after Corbyn was issued with a formal warning by a party disciplinary panel, but the Labour leadership declined to restore the whip, denying readmission to the parliamentary party pending an apology and retraction of his comments. As of April 2022, he sits as an independent.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      digg, if my memory serves me well, the Conservative Party leadership elections were made more ‘democratic’ than those of the Labour Party. Labour were then forced to modernise. Where previously the Trade Unions in general and some in particular had had a big say, from post-Miliband-on Labour have had to ask what their ordinary members think. You could join the Labour Party for £2.50 or £3.50 just to choose between Jeremy Corbyn and Jeremy Corbyn and Lisa Nandy and Jeremy Corbyn.

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    • G says:

      The dearth of older politicians wishing to stand (“The Old School”) David Davis etc) is testament to the fact that they must be in awe of the quality of those currently aspiring to become PM. Surely?

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  9. Flotsam says:

    Hi risk anus (anag.)

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  10. Fedup2 says:

    Think site playing up again …again… again …

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    • digg says:

      I work on quite a number of websites that are content driven from a database of some sort. Even the page web structure is drawn from a database table often described as CMS (Content management systems).

      WordPress is an example of this.

      If the web server starts to get problems requesting page structure data from the database it is unable to complete delivering the page in the users browser and will either hang or show odd effects such as we are seeing.

      I am pretty confident that this site is running along those lines.

      Looking at the issues I have seen myself and described by others I would definitely start with the health of the database. Many times a simple reboot of the database server fixes the issues.

      That’s my ten-penneth!

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  11. tomo says:

    Trudeau is running away from the growing chorus of dissent

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  12. richard D says:

    Noticed earlier today…

    “The world’s population is expected to reach eight billion on 15 November, the UN forecast Monday in a report that said India will surpass China as the most populous country on earth in 2023.”

    UN predictions include….

    – The world’s population is projected to reach 8 billion on 15 November 2022

    – Global population could grow to around 8.5 billion in 2030, 9.7 billion in 2050 and 10.4 billion in 2100.

    – Life expectancy at birth for women exceeded that for men by 5.4 years globally, with female and male life expectancies standing at 73.8 and 68.4, respectively

    – More than half of the projected increase in global population up to 2050 will be concentrated in just eight countries: the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Egypt, Ethiopia, India, Nigeria, Pakistan, the Philippines and the United Republic of Tanzania

    – India is projected to surpass China as the world’s most populous country during 2023.”

    And the impact on ‘Global Warming’ will be……. well, never mind that, the Western world has to revert to the stone age to solve this ‘problem’. Sorry, these things are labelled ‘crises’ these days, are they not ?

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  13. Guest Who says:

    My understanding was that some basic parameters to the deal were under question and he was looking at ways to inspire the Twitter board to act less like the BBC and actually own up to stuff?

    Certainly every BBC staffer using it to broadcast their version of ‘news’ to each other in a restrictive bubble can’t help the numbers.

    Or transparency.

    Or trust.

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    • tomo says:

      Some of my Twitter page-fills are now about ¼ to ⅓ stuffed with “Based on your re-tweets” garbage.

      I suspect that Elon knew Twitter’s antics back to front via some researchers tasked with providing him with observed estimates of Twitter’s business and he loaded the buy contract with poison pills…

      I’d say Musk plays BS merchant when it suits him and as a consequence it seems likely that he’s a keen nose for it elsewhere?

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  14. StewGreen says:

    My Twitter search page is now headed
    “News·LIVE
    The ECHR is an international court that safeguards civil and political rights, experts report”

    Strangely not only is that NOT news, it is not even NEW
    the Twitter link .. https://www.twitter.com/i/events/1536713534326775808

    The Twitter page lists newspaper articles from June 15th

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    • StewGreen says:

      Dunno why that failed to embed , I’ll try inserting www

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      • Wild Bill says:

        I look forward to the live interviews where the contenders have to answer how they stand on those subjects, but will the BBC ask them?

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        • G says:

          My one question would be to each:

          ‘How supportive have you been and will you be of the World Economic Forum’s objectives/goals if you become PM?’

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  15. Eddy Booth says:

    UK heatwave: Temperatures rise to 32C amid extreme heat warning
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62117348#comments

    “People are being asked to balance enjoying the sun with being careful as temperatures soar in large parts of the UK”

    How about minding your own business BBC / Government. Forever wanting to micro manage every aspect of our lives..
    I like this Have Your Say comment on the article:

    “Somewhere, in the north of Scotland… a man tentatively undoes the top button of his duffle coat”

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Eddy, I liked the old Max Boyce gag: “I was twelve years old before I got to take my cagoule off, the weather was that bad where I was born.”

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    • StewGreen says:

      Is it really as hot as the TV make out ? It’s not around here
      I’ve lived in plenty of countries with warmer weather
      Seems to me that UK weather guys are judging a whole on the hottest 5 minutes
      Most days I went for a run at 9:30am and didn’t sweat much cos out on the road there is a breeze.
      Then at another part of the day I am out of the wind where the sun is beating through glass patio days and it feels warm
      Then later I am out in the orchard thinning the apples again not sweating

      I have to say at the carboot on Sunday 2 oldies seemed to collapse with heat.
      There were some people sitting at at tables in the sun where they was no breeze but I was OK walking around wearing a wide brimmed hat and then biking up the hill with 10Kg of largely free stuff
      (Again is the inflation rate they quote really the inflation rate you pay, once I factor in free stuff and buying stuff when I see it cheap , my personal inflation isn’t super high )

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    • G says:

      Eddy,

      Maria Grevers song: “What a Difference A Day Makes”?

      24 Hours ago, I reported here about my detailed local Met Office forecast based on Postcode. It showed bright sun and high temperatures through to the end of the week and a bit beyond. Just how reliable this forecast is, can be seen in stark contrast by today’s forecast from the same source. Cloudy all day with a 10% chance of precipitation. Indeed, I notice a couple of splashes earlier.

      What an absolute joke.

      God help those who rely on the Met Offices’ ‘Climate Change’ models.

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  16. StewGreen says:

    Oh why has Sri Lanka run out of food and energy ?
    ..The president bought fully into COP and WEF agendas

    His COP26 speech
    “Overuse of nitrogen, especially in fertilisers, has adverse impacts on soil, water, air, and human health.
    For decades, chronic kidney disease has been a serious issue in Sri Lanka’s agricultural heartland.
    The overuse of chemical fertilisers has contributed significantly to this problem.
    (cause and effect are not established)

    It is in this context that my Government took firm steps to reduce imports of chemical fertilizer, and strongly encourage organic agriculture.”

    “Sri Lanka is proud to be a co-lead of the Energy Compact for No New Coal Power.”

    https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2022/07/11/if-you-want-to-know-how-sri-lankas-president-destroyed-his-country-read-his-cop26-speech/

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    • Eddy Booth says:

      The president before him was as WEF stooge as well.

      “”https://www.weforum.org › 2018/08
      How we will make Sri Lanka rich by 2025 – The World Economic Forum
      Closer ties with the ASEAN region and having an open attitude to trade and foreign investment will improve the living standards of all Sri …””

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Stew
      I can only think that the WEF either gives out bribes so big that the players can’t say ‘no’ or they have a file so damaging as to get the fools on board …

      If they are not learning from Shri Lanka ( Holland ) then there are gonna be a few more ex world leaders ….

      I’m thinking the WEF will have made provision for its’ extinction with a new branding sometime ….

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  17. Richard Pinder says:

    Fake News from the BBC: BBC says “8% of the population remains unvaccinated against Covid”

    Unvaccinated: According to the UK Health Security Agency, almost 30% of the population has not had even one mRNA jab. 20% of the population over the age of 18 are mRNA free. The highest groups are those with least trust in authority, young Black people, 72% who are mRNA free, and those best informed, medical doctors, half dodged taking the mRNA spike protein death jab. Faced with a disaster for the NHS. Only in January did the government retreat from sacking the unvaccinated doctors. In an unprecedented letter of condemnation, the head of the Office for Statistics Regulation (OSR), Ed Humpherson, criticised the UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) for providing statements “Unsupported by the data” and demanded much greater transparency on health data. The 8% is unsupported by the data, while the 30% comes from greater transparency on health data.

    Professor Norman Fenton, Professor of Risk Information Management at Queen Mary University of London.
    https://www.normanfenton.com/post/bbc-wants-to-understand-why-8-of-the-population-remains-unvaccinated-against-covid

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  18. Eddy Booth says:

    “It’s a ‘wake up and smell the coffee moment’ for the Tories, says Javid”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-62115347

    Yeah like you weren’t one of the main baristas..

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    Don’t think the BBC like him either!

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  19. Fedup2 says:

    Has he said his brother is a ‘top plod ‘ yet – or wait for desperation to kick in … ..

    Elswhere

    Various bits of hunter biden – presumably from his decrypted lap top – are appearing on the Twitter – including nude gunplay and taking – possibly – crack type medicines …

    I’m guessing the presidents press secretary won’t know that her boss has a son – she’ll have to get back to us ….

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Fed, that was the previous Press Sec, Jen Psaki, circling back to us . . …

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  20. taffman says:

    “Tories face electoral oblivion if we do not change – Javid”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news
    “electoral oblivion”, True words . they never kept their promises- Lower Taxes, Secure Borders Etc . They did not listen to the electorate that put them in to power. But they dictated to the electorate once In.
    Mass immigration , Green Energy and High Taxes .
    They have treated you Tory voters with disdain and contempt .

    There is another option ………………
    Cheaper Energy
    Lower Taxes
    Secure Borders
    Honesty & Integratory
    https://www.reformparty.uk

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    • moggie63 says:

      The Reform Party is only an option if they are standing in your constituency. Not likely in mine.

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      • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

        Moggie, I think they (ReformParty) are standing in every constituency (except NI) for the next GE
        Richard Tice was saying this yesterday.

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  21. tomo says:

    I don’t think it’s over dramatic to posit that If the political (and administrative) class do not shape up they’re looking at pitchforks and flaming torch mobs and a Ceaușescu finale sort of electoral oblivion rather than spending more time on the golf course.

    Tripling domestic fuel costs without exploiting shale gas (wilfully), the boiler ban, muzzling of dissent, spendthrift / spaffing crazy public sector, increased taxes, out of control bureaucracy ransoming everyday necessities, a socialised health system that is simply out of control and not fit for purpose and last but not least uncontrolled immigration…

    Apologies for the doom and gloom – but really… its a slow motion train crash.

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  22. Thoughtful says:

    4 gas explosions / ‘accidents’ in America, in a month??? You can put the tinfoil hat away, one of these the wire fence was cut and a valve deliberately opened, which does give rise to suspicion as to whether the others were simple ‘accidents’ or sabotage.

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  23. Fedup2 says:

    Steyn featuring the failure of ‘west Mercia ‘ plod in the paki paedo gangs of Telford – yet a quck check of the local rag – the ‘Shropshire star ‘ reports on nothing of these crimes or events –
    Just the normal dead teenagers driving to fast and other local nothings- guess their press and the west Mercia press are in the same lodge or mosque ….

    Pippa mills – the chief constable – Essex girl made good – must be dreaming of getting the next promotion and a move back to the smoke – it’s just so corrupt …

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    • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

      Fed, he was (as usual) brilliant. Must watch tv.
      That girl was very good as well, just like Sammy Woodhouse who tells a similar tale.

      I wish Lord Frost could be the next PM but I don’t see how it could happen.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Steyn had complainant Samantha Smith on again, after her appearance last week
      Why ? cos as has been mentioned here
      The police had knocked on her door to WARN her about speaking out on TV
      Video : https://youtu.be/hcM7T1shgXs
      Her case was child sex abuse but not an actual grooming gang

      https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/local-hubs/telford/
      nothing ever mentioned

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      • StewGreen says:

        As ever there is tangential here
        Look how convicted and failed appealer Claudia Webbe threatens her and uses flaky arguments which rely on people not double checking the newspaper links she posted actually say what she claims.
        I fully accept that CW’s conviction doesn’t include the part where she had words with her opponent about acid, but the court did hear that, And press including the Guardian did report it as CW threatening to throw acid.
        So when a 21 yo multiple abuse victim simply repeats the press
        it’s a bit much to publicly threaten her
        Well Unless CW is demonstrating her clumsy aggressive personality that she has a a conviction for.
        .. https://twitter.com/ClaudiaWebbe/status/1543189491292192769

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  24. Fedup2 says:

    BBC broadcasting another taliban documentary – report from the DT

    STARTS
    The Ministry of Defence has accused the BBC of putting front-line troops at risk with a new SAS “death squads” documentary.

    The hour-long documentary, which will be broadcast on Tuesday, asks if any of the “hundreds of people” killed on night raids by Special Forces were in fact executions.

    Panorama said the programme investigates a series of raids “where people were shot dead after they surrendered to British forces”.

    It adds that it has uncovered new evidence where eyewitnesses claim that they saw “unarmed Afghans being killed in cold blood”.

    However, the Ministry of Defence on Monday issued a strong rebuttal of the programme, which they said “puts our brave Armed Forces personnel at risk both in the field and reputationally”.

    None of the allegations have led to prosecutions

    In 2014 Operation Northmoor was established to investigate numerous allegations arising from detention-related incidents in Afghanistan during 2005-2013.

    It is understood that the Royal Military Police carried out independent and extensive investigations as part of the operation which looked into the conduct of British forces during this time. It was wound down in 2019.

    As of today, none of the historical allegations have led to prosecutions, but it is understood that the MoD is open to considering allegations if new evidence were to emerge.

    When the operation closed some veterans questioned the RMP’s suitability to run the inquiry, and called for an independent one.

    A defence source stressed that all military operations are conducted in accordance with the Law of Armed Conflict and that all allegations are investigated.

    In 2020, the Government was urged to open an inquiry once more into alleged misconduct by British forces in Afghanistan after revelations about Australian troops came to light.

    After a four-year inquiry, Paul Brereton, a senior judge, found evidence that some killings seen Australian SAS patrol commanders order their junior subordinates to make their “first kills” by shooting Afghan prisoners.

    It concluded that up to 39 Afghans had been unlawfully killed between 2007 and 2013 by Australian special forces.

    However a Defence source cited the Brereton report and said that the Australian department of defence and Chief of the Defence Force said in letters to counterparts that, “there are no British service personnel who are persons of interest or affected persons as a result of this Inquiry. The Inquiry makes no recommendations with regard to Australia’s foreign military relationships, foreign military organisations or service personnel from the UK.”

    ‘Irresponsible’ and ‘incorrect’

    The MoD spokesman added that the BBC’s Panorama’s episode “jumps to unjustified conclusions from allegations that have already been fully investigated”.

    “We have provided a detailed and comprehensive statement to Panorama, highlighting unequivocally how two Service Police operations carried out extensive and independent investigation into allegations about the conduct of UK forces in Afghanistan.

    “Neither investigation found sufficient evidence to prosecute. Insinuating otherwise is irresponsible, incorrect and puts our brave Armed Forces personnel at risk both in the field and reputationally.

    “The Ministry of Defence of course stands open to considering any new evidence, there would be no obstruction. But in the absence of this, we strongly object to this subjective reporting.”

    A BBC source suggested that people waited to comment on the episode “once they have watched investigation in full”.

    A statement from the BBC read:“This is the culmination of a four year investigation, which includes new evidence and eye witness accounts, and is firmly in the public interest. The MoD’s position is reflected fully within the film. We stand by our journalism.”ENDS

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  25. TheRebelUK says:

    Don’t watch any BBC TV now or radio as its all mostly one sided propaganda. I do look at the news website just to see how they are trying to brain wash or influence people. What a better time to look at their comments on the possible runners and riders for new PM, remember we only need a new PM because of the relentless BBC articles against him. They have this headline ‘Who could be the new PM’ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60037657. Lets consider what they write about some of them and what they miss out.
    Jeremy Hunt – Bbc seem to like him, tax cuts, son of an admiral, self-made millionaire and he’s an influential backbencher. They don’t remind us that he wanted to lock up people who had Covid like the Chinese, that he was a big supporter of vaccine passports and mandates, that he wants us all poorer with the net zero bollox oh and he just loves the EU.

    Sadjid Javid or as I like to call him the malteser headed C**t. He’s going to reduce income tax by a whole 1p and scrap the national insurance rise, packistani so we all love ethnics. They don’t tell us all that he votes for the same things as Hunt, so us all poorer (Net Zero) with the prospect of more lockdowns.

    Slimeball Sunak, he will focus on economy and won’t reduce taxes until the economy improves, so implying he is money wise, well he did marry a billionaire. He saved us all during the pandemic by giving healthy people money to stay at home so he’s just great. What they don’t tell us is that he was a snake to Boris, he was likely involved in obtaining the photos of boris at one of his lockdown parties, also he wants to waste over 100 billion on HS2, wanted to have covid passports and wants us all poorer with new zero.

    Zahawi – Another immigrant background who had to flee Iraq the poor mite, he will lower taxes and made his reputation as vaccine minister and got promoted to education. They don’t tell us that he has lied about vaccines, lied about deaths and tried to force healthy doctors and nurses to get an experimental vaccine that they didn’t want through pain of losing their jobs.

    My guess is that the beep will try and install any of the above.
    All on the BBC list are pretty crap but researching more on them I think either Suella Braverman or Mordaunt could be the best of a bad bunch. That Suella Braverman wants an end to the ECHR, finally sort out immigration, has said net zero is too costly and Penny Maudunt was against the EU too and never wanted vaccine passports.

    I suspect the BBC will try and highlight negative things about these two politicians in the next days/weeks and highlight the positives with the others above. Troubling times. I just wish Richard Tice and Reform would get in, its like if we vote conservative we get labour light and if we vote labour we are doomed even more quickly.

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  26. StewGreen says:

    on ITV2 now, a prog called “Don’t Hate The Playaz, the hip hop comedy entertainment show ”
    It’s probably a repeat from 2019

    I wonder if they target a certain demographic ?

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  27. Wild Bill says:

    Maybe a good question to ask prospective Tory leaders would be, ” did you take the partygate photos, or do you know who did?”.

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  28. brexiteerkent says:

    If they don’t even verify the identity of those they give knighthoods to, what future does this country have ?

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    • JohnC says:

      The Mo Farah story spectacularly fails to mention that his own family in Africa clearly sold him for trafficking and even more spectacularly ignores any description of who bought him.

      As it is the BBC, we can safely assume they were all black and these are yet more lies by omission. You can be sure we would have been informed if anyone in the loop was white.

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  29. tomo says:

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    • davylars says:

      Well Tomo
      This was Keir Starmer In Newcastle today having a hug with Kim McGuinness; Police and crime commissioner of Northumbria Police.

      Perhaps he should take up the case, as he seems awfully close to Northumbria Police…….

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  30. StewGreen says:

    Actually Belfield’ court case was not entirely cancelled
    Seems they carried on with procedural matters
    and his video has some newsworthy stuff about that
    ‘You know the guy that seemed to fake getting harassment letter from you, can we redact mention of him from all the statements ?”
    .. https://youtu.be/Xc4DQ996z-A

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    • tomo says:

      Thanks for the link – watched Mr Belfield and he’s doing OK under the circumstances.

      The prosecution wanting to edit the police reports that the jury see (clearly in support of their advocacy!) is just ridiculous

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  31. tomo says:

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  32. tomo says:

    Possibly a crank – but the actuaries seem to be a good place to start when we know we cannot trust our public health officials…

    https://capitalistexploits.at/an-inconvenient-actuarial-truth/

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  33. Fred Stubber says:

    Against my better judgement, this evening I listened to ‘PM’, Radio Four’s flagship evening news programme. Of course they covered the Tory leadership contest, but in their own perverse way.
    The bulk of the report was concerned with the various candidates’ attitude to Net Zero. Of course the candidates were in varying degrees mealy-mouthed on the subject, trying to balance virtue signalling with the grim reality of the present economic situation.
    The next most interesting thing about the contest, if the BBC was to be believed, was the fact that the majority of the candidates aren’t white. This was presented as a jolly good thing, but surprising because the Tories are all racists.
    After that there was an item that promised to be about the police, but it soon became clear that it was really about race. Off switch.
    Fred

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  34. Fred Stubber says:

    There’s a massive protest happening in Holland. The farmers are very concerned that the Dutch government’s Net Zero policies will ruin farming productivity. This is big news, and is getting a lot of coverage all over the world. But “the world’s most respected news organisation” as the BBC modestly calls itself, appears not to have heard about this protest. I just googled “Dutch+farmers+protest+BBC” and all I got with all those words was be a brief item about a protest in 2019. I haven’t heard a word about the present protest on BBC TV or radio.
    This is ‘bias by omission’. The BBC doesn’t want us to know that people are opposing Net Zero policies.
    Fred

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    • JohnC says:

      Once the run-up to Brexit started, all negative stories about the EU were dropped by the BBC. Particularly those involving immigration.

      And they still do it to prepare the ground for their target of an attempt to go back in. Hence the outrageous campaign against Boris.

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    • tomo says:

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  35. taffman says:

    “Sir Mo Farah reveals he was trafficked to the UK as a child”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62123886
    Is it still going on now and does our U/S “Tory” Government do anything about it ?
    Me thinks they are “full of eastern promise” as they continue to throw our money to Rwanda for doing sod all !

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  36. Nibor says:

    In Re
    Kemi Bradonoch doesn`t have Cabinet experience .

    I thought the well oiled civil service doesn`t need an insider to keep the government functioning

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    • JohnC says:

      I wonder who convinced her to resign then run to be PM.

      I’ll be amazed if she gets the necessary votes to pass stage 1.

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  37. JohnC says:

    The Afghan refugee commanding Ukrainian troops
    https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-62098529

    I have to say I’m sick to the back teeth of the BBC wrapping their far-Left agenda up in their lies and hypocrisy and presenting it as news.

    This video is quite clearly meant to educate us all that ‘Afghanistan refugees are as good as any of the locals’ by the false equivalence of one single example who appears to be a decent person. Meanwhile they totally ignore any and and all of the bad things the others do because of their fanatical religion and stone-age culture.

    The video keeps flashing up his name with ‘Commander’ underneath it. How many does he ‘command’ you ask ?. 500 ?. 1000 ?.

    No – 12. And it looks like they are all the ‘new’ Ukranian army of older people who wouldn’t normally be called up whose job is to free up the others to go and fight at the front.

    Just to be clear, I wish this man and the people fighting with him all the luck in the world if he ever does go to the front against the unstoppable, brutual Russian advance but I absolutely object to the BBC picking this one example purely because he’s a refugee then lying through their teeth in their usual ways about his importance.

    There are a hundred front-line REAL, incredibly brave Ukranian soldiers being blown to pieces every day and the BBC and the Left don’t care one bit because there’s no political agenda in it for them. Just like they don’t care about dead black or BAME people if their killer wasn’t white.

    Hypocrite scum.

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  38. AsISeeIt says:

    Fast tracks, front runners and revelations of the long distance runner edition

    ‘We have a zeal to protect our heritage’ (BBC) – not our British heritage, perish the thought: Jambo! Radio is Scotland’s only radio station aimed at people of African and Caribbean heritage (BBC)

    Never let it be said the tax payer-leveraged media bohemoth that is the BBC – which has strangled out of existance our former independent local and regional media – doesn’t spare a thought for the niche operators. Well, the more colourful the niche, the more they like it of course. Jambo!

    Olympic Plastic Brit Mo Farah revelations are splashed all over the press this morning – as if we couldn’t have guessed: Sir Mo: I’m not who you think I am (left-leaning tabloid-sized ‘i’ newspaper)

    The 1972 Bernie Taupin/Elton John, composition Rocket Man described a character confessing:

    “I’m not the man they think I am at home”

    That’s true: In 1969, Elton John was engaged to be married to his first girlfriend Linda Woodrow, but he ended the relationship two weeks before their wedding date. Elton John officially came out as gay to Rolling Stone magazine in 1992.

    I’m not Mo Farah Smuggled to UK & given a fake name (The Sun)

    It’s Not Unusual sang Tom Jones way back in 1965. And our Mo’s turning up here univited and under the legal radar is not exactly a rare curiosity these days: And still the boats come… Dozens of migrants carry an inflatable across a French beach on their way to the UK (corporate advertiser – akin to our NHS – free at the point of access – The Metro)

    We do have to admire the Metro’s pithy punning sub-header: Inflated numbers: Yesterday’s audacious bid comes amid a huge rise in small boat crossings… – by the way, has anyone heard any of the several contenders for Tory PM say a single convincing word about stopping this immigration conveyor belt?

    Tellingly the FT’s frontpage pic of the pick of the front runner left-leaning Tories reveals it’s – No Country For Old (White) Men – on this crowded little island of ours: Crowded field: from left: Kemi Badenoch, Liz Truss, Rishi Sunak and Penny Mordant.

    One senses the Telegraph are whistling in the wind: It’s high time for radical change. Sherelle Jacobs: The next PM must embarce Thatcherism – not ditch it – soon enough, the Penny will drop, even at the Telegraph: Tories take fast track to replace PM (Guardian); September 5 Day we find out who’s moving into Number 10 (Express)

    Brussels-UK trade body fails to meet. The ministerial committee governing the trade deal with the EU has not met for 13 months, the FT has learnt – clearly Boris had to go, his eye was off the ball. On the other hand, no point flogging the dead Brexit horse, what’s the betting we’re on the steath track back into the EU?

    Everybody needs good neighbours – that’s the jokey Daily Star with their thought for the day referencing: First look at Neighbours’ Kylie Minogue and Jason Donovan’s reunion as fans go wild – neighbours, eh? One wonders where are the Gendarmerie as yet another load of rubber boat people put to sea?

    Hastings 1066, The Charge of the Light Brigade, Isandlwana and Rorke’s Drift, The Somme 1916, Dunkirk… we British do tend to celebrate and rather revel in our military defeats. We left the Metro mid-channel in their headline… Here’s a new one to add to the hallowed list of duff battle honours: …hugh rise in small boat crossings since minister put MoD in charge (Metro)

    Not Elton’s ghost writer, but another famous Bernie: F1 Bernie ‘In £400m tax dodge’ (Metro)

    Heatwave is ‘risk to life’ insists the Express – what isn’t reckoned a risk to life these days? Terrorism and crime committed by anonymous illegal entrants to the country? Ah, that’s a small risk compared to the chance of us getting an Olympic gold medal prospect, eh?

    We need more British interest in competitive sport – with 8-0 scores clearly this sport isn’t all that competitve: Women’s Euros: Lionesses look gr-eight as they hammer Norwegians – careful now ‘i’ newspaper – you oughtn’t to refer to their looks. Our corporate feminists will be down on you like a ton of bricks: “It’s not her problem” EE unveils Hope United 2022 – a team of elite footballers united to tackle online sexist hate ahead of the UEFA Women’s European Championships… EE tackles online sexist abuse in campaign telling men it’s their problem.

    The Guardian have a bee in their bonnet over the online bookable minicab firm: The Uber whisteblower ‘I’m exposing as sytem that sold people a lie’ – but if the left-liberal media force Uber out of business across the western world then where’s all their new third world migrants they like to import going to find a job?

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    • Fedup2 says:

      All those years of the foreign third world runner living a lie – but now there a book to sell or a Netflix documentary so let’s tell a different version of the truth ….

      …. Meanwhile – time to end the SAS – the BBC – on behalf of enemies of the country starting with B has decided enough is enough . Soldiers must not go around killing people . ….

      …accounts by various dodgy characters must be accepted and broadcast to undermine military morale during a war as quickly as possible …

      After all false allegations – facilitated by the human rights lawyer industry coaching statements and witnesses for money -have never happened before …

      Anyone still paying their TV licence really needs to look in the mirror …

      PS – notice how the BBC is willing and able to send staff to afgee to undermine the SAS – but not able to go to Wolverhampton or Bolton or Telford or Oxford or Manchester … or ..or …to investigate paki Muslim Paedo racist rape gangs , plod and labour councils covering up for them – or the ‘community ‘ facilitating them ..
      Value of white working class English girls -nil in BBC world ….

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Last night mark Steyn started looking at the misconduct of the west Mercia plod and it’s treatment of victims of paki rape gangs –
        Will he get the chief constable of PCC to account for what that force is doing ? Or will it continue to be a wall of silence – unchallenged by the MSM – politicians – councils …?

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        • brexiteerkent says:

          Thank goodness for GB news. That was an excellent interview. Such a brave incredible woman.

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      • Guest Who says:

        Who Dares Alleges.

        The BBC Moaning Emole relegates poor SirMo’s trauma to second slot. Wait until his agent sends in him ‘opening up’.

        Top of the hit parade though is something most definitive.

        SAS unit killed Afghan detainees

        Golly. Mostly peacefully?

        “An SAS squadron repeatedly killed detainees and unarmed men, according to a BBC investigation”

        Ah, a bbc ‘according to’ run by GI Springster?

        “These are some of the claims soldiers and several people who served with the special forces have made during BBC Panorama’s investigation”

        So… some folk have made claims… to be propelled to full JezBo headline status?

        “points to evidence… It also suggests…”

        If a disaffected group of Iranians occupy W1A, well, that would be a shame.

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      • Thoughtful says:

        Thing is he probably has enough money to buy UK citizenship now anyway.

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  39. Fedup2 says:

    BBC really pushing crap wimmins ‘ football – there was a game at the Brighton Amex stadium last night – capacity 30000 – was it half full ? In fact who cares ….tick that box

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Not so much news about the Scottish and Welsh governments stopping taking Ukrainian refugees … really – I can’t think why – surely it is an important story ?

      But then again – so is the Dutch farm protest …..which links nicely to the non reporting of Shri Lanka – plenty about protests – but not so much about the green crap WEF cause ….

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  40. JohnC says:

    SAS reports reveal troubling pattern of suspicious deaths in Afghanistan
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-62083196

    ‘SAS operatives in Afghanistan repeatedly killed detainees and unarmed men in suspicious circumstances, according to a BBC investigation.’

    ‘MAY HAVE repeatedly killed’ BBC. You can’t blatantly assert it to be true just from your own report by two snowflakes.

    Here we have Panorama doing what Panorama does best (‘best’ meaning it’s the only thing they can do). Starting with a conclusion then doing anything and everything they can to support it.

    I wonder if they will give the actions of the SAS some proper context about what these men they supposedly killed had done. Maybe some graphic video of our soldiers having to walk round the edge of some farmland taking a different long, difficult route every day while the Afghan enemy follow them and watch from 400 meters away because they know they are untouchable if they are not carrying weapons. Then, when they get to the right place, the signal being given and the bomb set off. Then maybe show the pieces of our soldiers scattered across the field.

    Or maybe instead Panorama will present it as cold blooded murder – as if it could have happened in the street next to yours so make sure you lock your door.

    Reading between the lines of the situations where it happened, the people they killed were not sat drinking tea. They had guns and would have happily and slowly hacked off the head of every one of those SAS soldiers if they could.

    The SAS are not regular grunts. They are switched on people. I am confident that the majority – if not all – of those they killed were the enemy and as a result of an intelligence-led operation.. I bet they saved dozens of our soldiers lives by doing it and I’m glad they are on our side.

    One thing I am absolutely certain about : they will not get a fair hearing from Panorama. They will do their level best to make them look like bloodthirsty devils. The thing is, in war you need people like this. If you put that Panorama team in the middle of one of those situations – or any member of the BBC staff I suspect – they would hide in a wardrobe and pee their pants.

    I wonder if for balance, they will do a program on what ISIS did to people in the name of Islam. Or what the rape gangs did. Or what the Taliban do. Or the lies by witensses and their lawyers from all the other accusations which have been dismissed after costing us millions.

    It’s clear whose side the BBC are on. From this article and dozens more like it. Meanwhile lawyers like Starmer will be frantically trying to make some money out of it.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      JohnC
      You can play the ‘guess the talking head ‘ game predicting which human rights industry lawyer company ££££ is going to demand taxpayers ‘ money to conduct civil £££££ cases against the British Army – I bet Leigh Day – or Starmers ‘ outfit ..

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      • JohnC says:

        Yup. This is how it works. Establish blame by pretending you just want justice then the lawyers move in and sue for the compensation which is what is was really all about. Like Grenfell.

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    • BigBrotherCorporation says:

      Like much of the ‘news’ these days, it seems to be generated and circulated only from a safe distance – lots of second degree of separation from reality, and no thought about the consequences and ramifications of such unashamedly biased and one sided reporting.

      Pasty, soft bellied, manicured, bequiffed lawyers in over priced suits, mulcting the taxpayer through their ‘cleverness’ with words, and profiting from others’ misery make me want to vomit, callous men of action doing what they need to in order to keep the world safe from terrorism, even if it’s sometimes brutal and unpleasant, rather less so.

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      • Guest Who says:

        Going well so far.

        Allusion, allegation and claim elevated to proof.in the court of media mistrusted subbing.

        Maybe the SAS can be exempted from commenting… ‘for the purposes of serving the country’.

        The bbc uses FOI exemptions for anything.

        Perhaps the SAS can get a person to tell a person to tell Nicky Campbell to tell Nick Robinson that everyone knew nothing like that happened… and allllll goes away.

        Did Piers take the photos?

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        • Guest Who says:

          BBC ‘How to solve a murder’

          https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0chnbdq#xtor=CS8-1000-%5BDiscovery_Cards%5D-%5BMulti_Site%5D-%5BGR01%5D-%5BPS_SOUNDS~N~~P_DifferentWithNickyCampbellInTheBlood%5D

          Send a bbc thick lightweight to bbc selected ‘experts’ to be told what the bbc likes to hear, unlike what ‘everybody knew’ bar him about the corridors of the bbc back in the day.

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        • MarkyMark says:

          Iranian Embassy siege remembered

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        • MarkyMark says:

          The UK Government stated that as Nejad is a foreign convicted terrorist he is unable to apply for asylum but could not be deported under human-rights law: the Iranian authorities continue to want to try Nejad separately for the murder of the two hostages but were unable to offer acceptable assurances to the British that he would not be tortured or executed upon repatriation (during his trial they had said he should receive “islamic justice”). Also, there is now a Shia-majority government in Iraq with closer relations with its Shia-cleric-led neighbour and no third country was willing to accept him. He was freed from HM Prison Ford in October 2008 after 27 years in gaol and allowed to remain in the UK. On 12 October, Iran’s deputy foreign minister, Mehdi Safari, summoned the British ambassador, Geoffrey Adams, to protest at this “condemnable and indefensible” act. P.C. Lock wrote to the UK Government protesting against his release. Despite suffering life-threatening injuries, medical clerk Dadgar said he’d forgiven him and signed a release petition with other hostages, commenting, “He has been punished. Fair enough.” He added that if returned to Iran they would “shoot him as soon as he got off the plane.” He lives in south London with a new identity.[14][15][16]

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fowzi_Badavi_Nejad

          Fowzi Badavi Nejad (Arabic: فوزي بدوي نجاد; Persian: فوزی بداوی نژاد) is an Arab Iranian, the only survivor of a six-person group of the Democratic Revolutionary Front for the Liberation of Arabistan (DRFLA) that seized the Iranian Embassy for six days in London in 1980.

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      • MarkyMark says:

        Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Who’s gonna do it? You? You, Lieutenant Weinberg? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago, and you curse the Marines. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know — that Santiago’s death, while tragic, probably saved lives; and my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives.

        https://www.americanrhetoric.com/MovieSpeeches/specialengagements/moviespeechafewgoodmencodered.html

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Marky – it’s funny that Aaron sorkin – the lefty who wrote that – did a long interview recently in which he slagged off president trump like a proper liberal –

          But I think the interview was done before recent events – Ukraine – for instance …

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  41. Fedup2 says:

    No wonder there are so many angry people about – including me …

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  42. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – oh dear!

    6 a.m. News: One of the BBC’s favourite sons releases the news that he has not been telling the truth. Now, BBC, what is that about honesty and integrity and what you have been saying about Boris Johnson?

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  43. Tabs says:

    Sex assault victims warn about home massage dangers
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62081247

    An article about home massages turning into sexual assaults.

    The BBC does name the men doing this but show no pictures of the men:
    Callum Urquhart jailed for sexual assualting 4 clients
    Cosmin Tudoache jailed for rape

    Now, what is the connection of these men?!?

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    • Fedup2 says:

      I think you will find cosmin todoache on Scroblene s list of Tory party leadership candidates from earlier in this thread …

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  44. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #2 – oh dear, again!

    The BBC have been reporting the Government’s attempts to stop evil trafficking, modern slavery and illegal immigration via the Home Office’s arrangements with Rwanda. The BBC have been reporting the alleged views of Prince Charles, the specific statements of the Archbishop of Canterbury – and others – against this plan and reporting the opposition to it with notable enthusiasm and some glee.

    And now, Sir Mo Farah (not his real name) has publically identified the evils of trafficking and modern slavery. Thank you, Sir! Now what do you say, BBC? Is that a grudging, mumbled, apology I hear?

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  45. MarkyMark says:

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  46. Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

    Well, after seeing a good deal of the current Contenders for PM I have to say that I have lost a bit of my enthusiasm for Penny Mordaunt which I expressed a couple threads ago. As it stands so far in my personal rankings Suella Braverman stands firmly in first place.
    My second choice is a bit harder it is between Liz Truss and Kemi Badenoch. I like the latter but she has had no cabinet experience and no baptism of fire and the former may be just a bit too ambitious for her abilities but even though a latecomer to Brexit she certainly has been pushing Brexit as hard as she could. Credit where credit’s due.
    Penny has been related to fourth on the list. I have taken on board the comments on her video launch that people here made. Thank you all.
    Them’s me pick at the moment. I am surprised that there are no blokes on my list. I do know the difference, which is becoming rare these days. Alas, I think these particular bunch of chaps fail to inspire me and I’ll add I’m not an fan of the feminist movement. It was a long time ago when I announced to my Lefty circle of friends that I had become a born again sexist.
    But I would find it quite acceptable if one of the aforementioned women got the role. They may not be perfect, but even the least of these, even with their faults would be an improvement on the chaotic reign of Fattaturk.
    I know the BBC played a big part in his downfall, but his biggest enemy was himself.

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    • MarkyMark says:

      You are under the impression that they will do what they say.
      HA HA HA!

      https://ukcop26.org/uk-presidency/our-team/

      MARK CARNEY
      Mark Carney is currently the Prime Minister’s Finance Adviser for
      COP26 and UN Special Envoy for Climate Action and Finance.
      This role focuses on embedding climate into every finance decision and
      creating a more sustainable financial system to support the path to net
      zero.
      Mark was previously Governor of the Bank of England from 2013 to 2020,
      and Governor of the Bank of Canada from 2008 to 2013. Internationally,
      Mark was Chair of the Financial Stability Board from 2011 to 2018, Chair
      of the Global Economy Meeting and Economic Consultative Committee
      of the Bank for International Settlements from 2018-2020, and was First
      Vice-Chair of the European Systemic Risk Board from 2013-2020.
      He is Vice Chair of Brookfield Asset Management and a member of the
      Global Advisory Board of PIMCO, the Group of Thirty, the Foundation
      Board of the World Economic Forum, as well as the boards of Bloomberg
      Philanthropies, the Peterson Institute for International Economics and
      the Hoffman Institute for Global Business and Society at INSEAD.
      THE PRIME MINISTER’S FINANCE ADVISER FOR COP26

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      • Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

        A bizarre response, Marky.
        Not related to anything I wrote. But then you post a lot like that these days. You have no idea how sceptical I may or may not be be.
        You just assume you know what I’m thinking. Grand fail, mate.

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      • StewGreen says:

        @Yasser actually I understand what @Marky’s point was
        You said “hmm I not sure what Tory should be leader”
        His point is the elites these days are all WEF GreenDream puppets.
        So the WEF are simply letting puppet-Boris go and are swapping him for another puppet.

        Only when you get Trump or Orban are you getting a non-puppet.

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        • Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

          Stew, you are quoting me saying something I never said in that post.
          Please don’t do that. Read what I said again. Thanks.

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          • StewGreen says:

            @Yasser I still think it’s an accurate paraphrase of what you said
            If it isn’t how would you paraphrase it ?

            But my main point was to explain what Marky was saying.

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  47. StewGreen says:

    R4 presenter just now
    “2 million people in the UK have long covid”
    .. that sounds like a made up number.

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  48. MarkyMark says:

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  49. andyjsnape says:

    We all thought the bBC hadn’t mentioned the Dutch farmers

    I searched there websh*te and found something about Dutch farmers blocking roads
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1417984.stm

    Albeit from 2 July, 2001!

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Omission is the greatest lie ….

      Dear Marianna Spring (BBC wages paid under threat of prosecution),

      As I’ve had to look at your BBC news and use other sources to determine that your news is not news but selective editorial opinion I’d like to request that I have a refund for the last 4 years plus get the BBC free from now on.

      Please let me know how I can go about this as I am willing to create a full list of articles that I’ve had to investigate plus time taken for me to check your fact checker whilst realising that the BBC intentionally removes news rather than incorrectly report on it, uses images to sway opinion or misleads with the main titles hoping no one reads the full article.

      ‘Omission is the greatest form of lie.’

      CAS-4987700-SY1FTF : BBC NewsWatch says boredom with pro-Brexit march.

      CAS-4844672-N8FDYY: Update on the MP Expenses 2009 scandal in 2018.

      CAS-4939547-J71Z1V: Here’s hoping Ireland do the right thing G.Lineker.

      CAS-4937378-YKMWBJ: BBC not reporting ‘Day of Freedom’ March 06may2018.

      CAS-4906141-BFJQL0: I take offence that presenters promote their books.

      CAS-4892811-C820SC: I am offended that I have to pay the BBC TV Tax.

      CAS-4824332-633N1P: What happened in Italy was not covered …

      CAS-4933135-ZV3V7F: The omission is the most powerful form of lie …

      CAS-6005141-S1V9D1: Not seen a report on the UK Governments Covid19 

      Let me know how to go about resolving the issue of paying for something that wastes my time as I have to check each story rather than rely on its accuracy.

      Cheers,
      Mark
      https://www.bbc.co.uk/helpandfeedback/corrections_clarifications

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