Midweek 9 November 2022

A gleefully – biased -overtly anti Conservative BBC news presenter – found guilty of bias by the BBC – wasn’t fired – she was suspended for 12 days. She was returned to broadcasting without apology or correction ….

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  1. Kaiser says:

    meeeeee me me me first , I feel like a rainbow person 😀

    defund the so called BBC


    • Sluff says:

      Ref fedup’s intro to this thread.

      Croxall may have been suspended but was that ON FULL PAY OR NOT?

      Not much of a sanction to be paid for doing nothing, but then again, SO BBC.


      • Fedup2 says:

        Some might see it – in scheme of things – as a small thing . But it is gold dust for us . A real tangible recorded bit of evidence of how those bbc types really are as opposed to the claim of neutrality ….
        It helps with their attitude and context …

        I didn’t notice any Mp saying anything about it but they are either woke or lefties or scared …


  2. Flotsam says:

    Rishi, to be fair, probably had no choice but to buy whatever energy is available on the market, hence the purchase of fracked American gas. It’s that or the country comes to a standstill. Perhaps something like this might highlight the total insanity of our energy policies.


    • Kaiser says:

      but whats the plan for the future , this is unlikely to be the last sudden emergency.

      those nuclear power station the limp-dumbs refused to build in 2010 because they would take so long to kick in could well be helping out by now


    • tomo says:

      They’re pissing on you and telling you it’s raining – couldn’t be clearer.

      Reasonable that Brillo picks up on imported Yanqui fracked gas I suppose but it its so simple that it really should trigger an outbreak of media indignation and repeated questions at *EVERY* press conference – this farce has to stop.

      I’ve yet to see an energy audit for geothermal energy drilling – if was any good in CO2 terms and RoI you’d reasonably imagine that it’d be *everywhere* – incessantly on the BBC f’rinstance – all I see is more grants and Panglossian claims about how wunnerful it is ….


    • NCBBC says:

      Samne with Germany. It will be a choice between warmth and fed. Also no Christmas gifts for poorer German children . The welloff will be ok. They will fly to Davos and the nearby ski resorts.

      Religion, the new Climate Change religion, is for the poor working people, not for them and the political class. I now begin to understand why ordinary French were so cheesed off with the rich. Apparently the French still keep Mademoselle Guilotine somewhere, just as a reminder.


  3. Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

    I see that another “wicket” has fallen: Williamson has gone.

    Who will the BBC “bounce out” next?


    • BRISSLES says:

      How he became a Sir is beyond me. And why does he remind me of Uriah Heep ?


    • NCBBC says:

      The Zelensky curse. If a Western political leader does not feed the Zelensky monster with billions, they get a regime change Op.


  4. G.W.F. says:

    Tory MP Mark Francois criticised for using ‘outdated’ racial slur

    He called the Japs ‘Japs’.

    Keep this up and he will have to resign.
    Then we have Krauts, Frogs, Chinks …



    • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

      But of course the Irish Republican term “Brits” for British is never offensive …

      Er, maybe Monsieur Francois’ chosen word was no more than an abbreviation?

      BBC = outdated, anti-White racist, scum media.


    • Flotsam says:

      I think “British” or “English” is racial slur these days.


    • G says:

      And even, “Taffs” ?

      Sorry, Taffman but it highlights the idiocy.


  5. tomo says:


  6. Thoughtful says:

    Some amazing and shocking documents comming out of a US court case showing censorship of free speech and Chinese Communist interference with fact checking.


  7. TrickCyclist says:

    I hesitated to post this C5 News video as it’s such a nothing – a polite, cosy chat. The Just Stop Oil woman is exactly what you’d expect and former BBC man Dan Walker is exactly what you’d expect, too.
    I don’t know what her carbon footprint is but she looks like she could be rendered down into a few gallons of oil herself.


    • taffman says:

      She must have eaten all the pies ?
      Enough fat to keep herself warm . A bloody joke!


    • StewGreen says:

      She has half a kilo of petroleum products on her face.


    • andyjsnape says:

      Hello Trick

      Interesting to know the percentage of just stop oil “activists” / criminals who use £1000plus iphones


    • MarkyMark says:

      How do we start to decolonize science? @0:10

      “Through the black magic, witchcraft you are able to send a lightning bolt to strike someone, Can you explain that scientifically … ” @0:50 – one of the speakers
      “It’s not true” – audience member
      “I need to address you directly (audience member who says witchcraft does not work). When we started this we agreed on certain house rules. By you doing that (arguing) you are disrespecting that sacredness of this space. I would like you please first to apologise …” – another speaker


    • dhunter says:

      what a joke of an interview with 2 idiots exchanging thank You’s for coming on the prog.


  8. TrickCyclist says:

    ITV Washington correspondent Robert Moore just described Donald Trump as a “toxic figure.”
    So glad we have such unbiased reporting in this country.
    Now they’ve got Scottish maniac Peter Smith supporting the reparations agenda at COP 27.


    • StewGreen says:

      Oct 10, 2016 Robert Moore’s article in the Daily Mirror
      “Donald Trump *survived* presidential debate – great for him but toxic for US”
      … “survived” .. Trump BEAT Hillary you idiot

      Jun 19, 2019
      “How does Robert Moore get away with calling Trumps campaign TOXIC!!”

      Feb 9, 2021
      “Don’t let ‘toxic’ Fox News US TV culture spread to UK, say Robert Moore and Matt Frei”

      Moore wanted Trump to condemn a man before his trial
      A man who was found NOT GUILTY at the end of the trial

      So Mr Moore who is Toxic ?
      Projection is a libmob characteristic.


  9. Sluff says:

    Just occasionally the biased BBC does me a favour by deploying their agenda in a setting that I happen to know something about, which exposes their bias even more clearly.

    Their ‘cost of living crisis’ whingeathon reached a secondary school in Sheffield today. Cue interviews with teachers. Shock. Horror. One teacher was wailing that things were so bad she might have to go and work in a supermarket, implying she could earn more !!!!!!! This lunatic remark attracted no challenge at all, needless to say.

    Thanks to the national pay rates, teachers in Sheffield earn the same as those in, say, Beaconsfield or Bournemouth. But you can pick up a decent well-renovated 3 bed house in Sheffield in a trendified street within walking distance of the city centre for under £200,000. You could get a mortgage for nearly the whole amount based on a teacher’s salary. Hell will freeze over before you can buy a 3 bed house for that money in Beaconsfield or Bournemouth. And no surprise that the cost of many products and services are cheaper. Money ‘oop north’ goes further.

    So the idea that teachers in Sheffield are poorly paid and be better off working in a supermarket is sheer, utter, insanity. And provable as being so (see above).

    Yet the BBC deliberately pander this pathetic narrative. Which only goes to show that they are the ultimate purveyors of agenda-driven FAKE NEWS and have no interest whatever in proper reporting.


    • taffman says:

      And the Tories do nothing about it?
      Next time vote here……………..


    • Nibor says:

      Sluff ,

      Some of my fellow truck drivers complain that they could “earn more money stacking the shelves at Tescos than driving an HGV ” to which I reply Go And Get A Job There Then , which they wont because they wouldn`t like the job .

      I spoke to a local girl who works in a Tescos Express in the town . The job is harder and worse than you think and would make an MP who bleats about the dangers of meeting local constituents swoon in a faint .
      Especially at night , they have to deal with drunken , drugged , stupid and deranged people who can vary their violence from a bit verbally nasty to assault . In my rather genteel town they have to have a security doorman .
      For example the aggressives will complain their favoured brand of cigarettes , soup , vodka , sweets aren`t available and accuse the staff of keeping the brands back in the stockroom as though a supermarket makes money storing stuff instead of selling it .

      It might open the eyes of teachers who are Gramscians to work in a supermarket .


  10. Lunchtime Loather says:

    And so it continues. My wife drew my attention to this as I was not watching…

    Victoria Coren-Mitchell asks an Only Connect team member what the UK could do to give us a better result in the Eurovision song contest. The predictable answer was, of course, “Not leave Europe” to which VCM responded with “Too late for that”. This was followed very shortly afterwards with some blatant Trump bashing. She decided not to watch any further, good girl.

    “Enter some better songs” would have been a better answer.

    Sam Ryder came second in last year’s Eurovision, the best UK result for many years, and after we had left the fetid EU.


    • StewGreen says:

      So in Eurovision last year #1 and #2 were not in the EU

      On Twitter @OnlyConnectQuizand VCM got a kick from about 10 people


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      The old baggage who said we should have stayed in the EU was of course an ex-Labour MP.


    • StewGreen says:

      Only Connect update , one contestant tweets there was BBC bias in the EDIT

      What does Britain need to do to win Eurovision?
      Ans “not leave Europe” ..left in
      Ans “Get invaded by Russia” .. EDITED out


  11. Sluff says:

    Just Stop Oil have closed down the M25 again.

    In Surrey the motorway has 5 lanes in places, plus a hard shoulder.

    So there is absolutely no reason why, even if the protestors need to be taken down from the gantries (I would keep them up there for as long as possible until they s*** their pants) the traffic could not get safely round in the other lanes.

    The abject failure of the police to indulge in any innovative thinking and creativity, nor prioritise the rights of ordinary people to get on with their lives, surely proves that the police and other authorities are in fact fully on the side of the extreme left wing anarchists.


    • digg says:

      That may change now one of their own got hit by a car during an M25 protest which also wrecked a couple of trucks!


    • markh says:

      I was stationary for over an hour on the M25 at Thurrock yesterday while the retards clambered about on gantries and the Police stood around, arms folded, flashing their blue lights and doing sod all else. I was trying to see my very ill 99-year old mother in hospital. At that moment if I could have fed 10,000 volts through the gantry I would have. Bastards.


      • Fedup2 says:

        Yes – time to ‘end’ them – time to name and publish addresses -jobs – employers … relatives ….there must be a price to pay …

        Let’s hope a few fall off ….


  12. BRISSLES says:

    I do wonder why its the job of public servants to keep members of the public safe, who put themselves in dangerous situations in the first place – their choice ! If they fall and up as pizza on the motorway then so be it. Like the Channel migrants, if they drown they drown. If mountain climbers decide to ascend in plimsolls and shorts why should rescuers risk their lives to rescue the idiots. No sympathy whatsoever.


    • TrickCyclist says:

      Sluff & BRISSLES,
      Maybe a solution would be for the police to use the big tie-wraps the U.S. cops use to handcuff people. Keep the motorway open and fasten the protestors to the gantry to prevent them falling through any innocent motorist’s windscreen. Leave them with a friendly retort like “Let us know when your protest is over!”

      (I don’t seriously expect the police to utilise such an ‘unfeeling’ strategy.)


    • Sluff says:

      I do see your point but on the whole mountain accidents are just that – accidents – and often occur with mountain walkers who do know their stuff. You don’t go out to get into an accident, even those in shorts and stilettos, and you get rescued by your fellow mountaineers who are volunteers relying on donations and in great measure not impacting on the public purse . A friend who had a very bad fall when rocks gave way was rescued by someone he knew, despite being 300 miles from home !

      In the case of Just Stop Oil and the rubberised cross channel ferries, the participants wantonly and deliberately put themselves ‘at risk’. A further differential is that I do not consider the JSO extremists are putting themselves at risk. On the contrary, their gantry climbers seem well equipped with helmets and climbing gear. They don’t need rescuing at all, so leave them there in perpetuity, preferably at night in freezing weather.


  13. Thatcherrevolutionary says:

    So if Rashid Sanook has stayed home like the original plan, we’d be £14bn better off ?

    Handcuff the f*cker to a desk!


    • MarkyMark says:

      Revealed: Millionaire Rishi Sunak borrowed £12,000 Kia Rio from Sainsbury’s worker before putting in £30.01 of petrol for photo-op (but he says he actually drives a VW Golf)
      Rishi Sunak went to Sainsbury’s store for photo op after unveiling fuel duty cut
      Chancellor borrowed a Kia Rio and put £30 worth of petrol in it, paying himself
      Mr Sunak, reputedly one of the richest MPs, revealed he actually has a VW Golf

      Published: 14:53, 24 March 2022 | Updated: 14:14, 25 March 2022


  14. Zephir says:

    Uncontrolled illegal immigration and eco idiot protests allowed unchecked.

    This is nothing less than a conspiracy against the will of the people of this country

    We are NOT living in a democracy and the government appears powerless to govern so who is really co ordinating this ?

    Who are the invisible dictators dictating this ?


    • MarkyMark says:


      “the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.”


  15. Zephir says:

    Look what happens to those who stand against the dictators running the world : I.E. Trump,

    co ordinated media attacks and any of his opinions on social media blocked

    Endless legal challenges

    Stolen elections

    replaced by the most incompetent so called president in the history of the US who does not even know what day it is

    Bidens corruption and that of his son hidden by the media


    • MarkyMark says:


      President Trump’s 100 Days President Biden’s 0 Day 

      Dear Winston Smith in the Records Department of the Ministry of Truth,

      You covered President Trump’s 100 Days and then produced a Beyond 100 Days to hold power to account.

      Why have you not done the same for President Biden to hold power to account?

      ‘Omission is the greatest form of lie.’ 


      Thank you again for contacting us,

      BBC Complaints Team


  16. Flotsam says:

    Re Gavin Williamson resignation.

    So, he is accused of uttering a few harsh words to Senior Civil Servants. I reckon they need a lot of harsh words as many of them seem to think they can obstruct the work of the Government resisting Brexit and other policies they don’t agree with. The timing seems interesting, coming to a head while Rishi is away and PMQ’s today. Sets things up nicely for Starmer and Blowhard Blackford.


  17. Fedup2 says:

    Flotsam – who cares ? The blue labour lot have had 12 years to get a grip of the self serving civil service and failed . Cummings tried and got fried . Any move ministers who are a threat to them are leaked and done in .

    I think it shows how poor the quality of blue labour ministers are .. and of course the red labour ones will be even worse. ..

    Today watch
    Our justin in the US sounding quite perky – he even said ‘trump tried to steal the 2020 election ‘ which was a new twist . The mentally affected fetterman is predicted to have won Pennsylvania which suggests the Biden election theft method is still in place and working ….


  18. andyjsnape says:

    Democrats gain crucial Senate seat in fierce battle for Congress
    “reports” the unbiased bBC

    bBC is happy, afterall they wouldn’t want the US to vote the wrong way

    #defund #closedown


  19. Fedup2 says:

    Im being cheeky and repeating the below from Monday –
    It’s deeply applicable

    The daily recipe of Today seems to be evolving – it’s now

    1 a shortage of something
    2 an NHS crisis
    3 a direct attack on a blue labour minister
    4 green crap
    5 coloured / Muslims as victims
    6 more taxpayers money for something
    7 wimmin treated badly
    8 pro EU – bad UK/brexit story
    9 union propaganda
    10 kick trump
    11 tax paid ‘free ‘ school dinners campaign ( continuous )
    12 fuel / mortgage / travel / child ‘crisis ‘

    That list fully in place Wednesday ….


  20. Fedup2 says:

    Wow – John fetterman – the brain damaged democrat won his seat – I’d really want to check the vote counting on that one . Frightening …
    …. Our Justin – in the US – sounds really perky as it looks like President Trump may be unable to regain his rightful job …


  21. taffman says:

    “Made.com goes bust with up to 500 jobs lost”
    TheTory recession continues to wreck this once, great country and it‘s going to get worse .


  22. andyjsnape says:

    Five things we learned about Greta Thunberg

    5 things they learned from Saint Greta – loads they didn’t ask, selectively

    Brought to you by the unbiased news campaigner


    • Fedup2 says:

      Such worship – is she curing the sick and calming storms yet ?

      Surely she must be due for a statue at the BBC ? Or on the plinth in Trafalgar ( aka green )square ?

      I didn’t spot the bit where she wants to end the west and capitalism …..


  23. Fedup2 says:

    Sometimes I try to step back and work out why things are as they are – in this case – the now daily acts of green crap loons to stop traffic – eg the M25 again . Plod seems both unable and unwilling to deal with these characters ?

    Why ? Usually these green outfits are ‘infiltrated ‘ so that identities can be learnt and the ‘hot’ ones slept with – (see previous episode )

    But now plod seems unable to deal with these loons and the taxpayer suffers bigly . Maybe the weather will do the job – plod certainly isn’t – and the msm is too busy on meaningless swamp stories with crap politicians …


  24. Charlie Farley says:

    What we need are new protest groups…
    ” Just Stop Dinghys ” , ” Just Stop Net Zero ”
    So many many more , Will we ever have a Government that Stops giving our Money away to the rest of the World……so many Thousands Died to Keep Us Free and for what ? .
    BBC are Disgustingly Biased and will not be happy until their Labour are back in power .
    This once Great Britain is Finished !


    • Fedup2 says:

      Yes I’ve said we are lost – there never was a democracy – politicians do not deserve a vote . There is no prospect of change whilst the likes of Farage prefer TV to doing something to really help his country .,

      I used to find myself defending the conservatives – but they don’t exist any more – so I care less which of them is in or out .

      One day people will look back and wonder how an 80 majority did nothing for the Right .


    • G says:

      Charlie F,

      Chaining/sticking themselves to the Border Farce/RNLI boats…………….


  25. Scroblene says:

    “Anthony Zurcher

    BBC North America correspondent

    Donald Trump may not have been on the ballot during these midterm elections, but he still cast a shadow over them”.

    Who says it’s a ‘shadow’? Why not a ‘shining light’?

    I’d wager that many Republicans welcomed his discussions over the past few weeks, to get the stupid Biden/Kamilla farce out of the way in time for 2024, so why does the British Bitching Coagulant decide that Donald Trump’s appearances had a negative effect on the outcome of these mid-terms?

    The left-wing Lurch is really scraping the barrel again, but then, most normal citizens ignore his fatuous remarks.


  26. AsISeeIt says:

    A rising number of households are having their energy smart meters remotely switched to prepayment meters, the energy regulator has said (BBC)

    Let that be the latest in a short series I like to call “It’s not a conspiracy theory if it’s true”

    Meanwhile, our BBC pleads a touching cri de cœur on behalf of those vulnerable shrinking violets we know as politicians: More than 3,000 offensive tweets are sent to UK Members of Parliament every day, a BBC investigation into the extent of online abuse has found.

    Gosh, if only social media were broadcast only and only approved broadcasters of approving niceness were allowed.

    Seems top politicians are not our only hothouse flowers likely to faint clean away at the first mere sight or sound of bad words in the manner of an Edwardian spinster aunt at the mere mention of the back end of a horse.

    We once imagined our senior civil servants as dashing Sir Humphrey Applebys; erudite exponents of the daily cut and thrust of political manoeuvre. Parrying here, expertly cutting there.

    More recently, in the post Blair/Alastair Campbell end of the age of deference era, now disabused of such romantic notions of gentlemanly conduct in high places, we have come to accept the TV caricature Malcolm Tucker as the exemplar.

    And yet increasingly our politicians and top civil servants too cry bully on a daily basis!

    One short to the point excerpt of script from Tucker should suffice for our example hereabouts. Fear not moderators, this will be by way of his preamble to one of his notorious full on four letter assaults. Think of it as his cricketer’s menacing lenghy run up to a vicious pace ball. Tucker will be addressing a pair of female colleagues after some dire cockup on their part.

    So if perhaps, as a constituent, you have some imagined beef with our political representatives and/or their permanent civil service sector, for their trashing of the economy maybe, then perhaps preface your angry Tweet with this following proviso care of the author of The Thick Of It:

    “I just wanted to say to you, by way of introductory remarks, in my quest to try and make you understand the level of my unhappiness, I’m likely to use an awaful lot of – what we would call – violent sexual imagery. And I just wanted to check that neither of you would be terribly offended by that?”


    • Fedup2 says:

      Asiseeit – the vision of government whips wimping on in public about being ‘bullied ‘ by a minister – who I think used to be the chief whip – shows how disfunctional that outfit must be …

      The prospect of a red labour landslide gets nearer and newer –

      What would change ?

      The rejoining of the EU( we never left )
      The end of the pound
      Bigger contributions to brussels
      EU army – taxes
      Free movement again ( no change )
      Scottish independence
      Welsh independence
      England broken up into regions
      United Eire (same old same old )
      Full positive minority discrimination
      Voting at 16
      Even higher taxes
      Even more money wasted on the NHS
      More overseas giveaways
      Stats funded BBC – direct taxation

      So – with that lot – is there that much different from voting for the blue Labour Party . ?

      If my predictions are right we are really up against it


  27. atlas_shrugged says:

    There I was driving in my car channel hopping on FM …

    * Mindless music on some local BBC radio station – switch over

    * Spiteful devious girly impersonating Elon Musk being treated as royalty by Wimmins Hours – switch off

    Ich hopen fur donna und blizen fur allas die dumbkopf feminazi in das bBC – SheHeil!


  28. theisland says:


    James Cleverly has announced a significant increase in the UK’s financial support to African countries on the frontline of climate change.


    • Fedup2 says:

      More to follow when red labour get in …


    • MarkyMark says:

      “Government is funding” = “Tax payer is paying.”


    • G says:

      Somehow, stop the flow of money going into the Exchequer. That would curb the increasing recklessness of the Ruling Elite.

      It highlights the secretive, mysterious absences from time to time for PM’s or senior people to disappear to another place in the World to sign some other International ‘Compact’ or some such. The last I know about was Treason May disappearing to the US to sign the UN’s ‘Migration Compact’. And look what’s happened………..


  29. Doublethinker says:

    At the time of writing it looks as though the Republicans will narrowly take the House in the US Congress but that the Dems will hold the Senate. The hoped for red wave was much smaller then anticipated. For now we will leave aside any questions about the security of the US election process.
    Reading various UK based news outlets , the BBC amongst them, the sense of relief is palpable, their side has held on , things weren’t as bad as they feared. Even more important to them is the fact that Trump endorsed candidates haven’t done very well.
    Over the next hours there will be another , the 5087th , round of ritualised Orange Man Bad preaching. Perhaps bonfires will be lit in celebration. Anyway much of the WEF agenda will remain on track in the USA.
    Seriously though if the last two years of Democrat rule in the US hasn’t been enough to make people flock to a distinctly different political alternative , is there any hope left!?
    The US voter did have a distinct choice of a viable centre right alternative , in the UK we have no choice at all. But they don’t seem to have flocked to it in droves. Perhaps it is a demonstration of the everlasting power of brain washing at school, uni, by TV and radio , by the rest of the MSM, you vote against your own best interests or more precisely you think that your own best interests are more or less the opposite of what they actually are.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Double – one of the things I don’t get is that many votes take days – and as some have noted – it gives any side an opportunity for fraud .

      US elections have a history of ‘dodgy ‘ – hanging chads ? – Nixon v Kennedy …. But it seems a real battle of frauds and not fair …. But it’s a foreign country – not the great honest voting of the Best Country in the world ( Iceland ?)


    • G says:


      “The hoped for red wave was much smaller then anticipated”.
      Or in BBC Speak, “the ripple”.

      All indicative of the breadth and depth of UN/WEF/Soros/Chinese penetration. I fear irreversible. These Mid-Terms are the Worlds ‘litmus test’ of if/whether Capitalism/Conservatism can exist much further. Sadly, the answer to that has to be no.


  30. MarkyMark says:


    “the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.”


    Today the BBC journalists Michael Keohan and Colin Campbell released a shocking report on the channel crossings. It showed people smugglers selling their wares brazenly in the migrant camps and many children living in unsafe and dangerous conditions, as well as—this is breathtaking—a free French public bus service that migrants can use to travel directly from the camps to the Dunkirk departure beaches. (ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.) Will my right hon. Friend allow a statement on the issue of tackling the small boat crossings and the Government’s response in their work with France?


    ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group


  31. Sluff says:

    The BBC webshite helpfully informs us that the maximum penalty for wilfully obstructing a highway is 51 weeks.

    Readers may wish to ponder why the courts consistently fail to impose this penalty but allow the ER and JSO fanatics to walk free every time.

    Perhaps such penalties only apply to the ‘Far Right’ and not to those cuddly lefties the justice system so admires.


    • MarkyMark says:

      HAHA HA HA

      Anjem Choudary: Radical preacher’s public speaking ban to be lifted

      Choudary, from Ilford in east London, was jailed for five-and-a-half years in 2016 after being convicted of inviting support for the Islamic State group.



  32. andyjsnape says:

    Norway princess quits royal duties for alternative medicine

    I wondered why the likes of the bBC had decided to mention the Norwegian royal family



    • MarkyMark says:

      ” self-professed shaman Durek Verrett,”

      Has voodoo been misjudged? {bbc.co.uk aug2017}
      While many African traditions and cultures are under threat from modern life, there is one which is holding its own – voodoo. It has suffered from a bad press internationally but is an official religion in the West African country of Benin. … The Regional High Priest (special person, no complaints allowed, special privilege) of Voodoo Daagbo Hounon is presiding over the day’s rituals. … With the government supporting it at home and the descendants of slaves embracing it abroad (Government backing suggests it will not survive on it’s own merits?), the ancient voodoo tradition has found a place in the modern world, where other African belief systems are often struggling for relevance.



  33. StewGreen says:

    “Hull Labour Karl Turner is the areas biggest victim of toxic abuse on Twitter”
    Radio Humberline news all this morning

    “At 10:10am we’ll be having on Emma Hardy the Hull Labour MP”

    The presenter has been sent this example of Turner thumbs-upping assaulting political opponents with milkshakes rather than fairly debating them.


    • StewGreen says:

      “thank you for your time Emma”

      The presenter chose not to mention that tweet
      instead her line was “You know with Elon Musk saying Twitter will be more if a free speech platform, does that mean MPs will SUFFER even more ?”

      Karl Turner has recently deleted his May 2019 milkshaking tweet
      It was still up when I checked in February
      .. https://www.twitter.com/No2BS/status/1491163287102554114


    • StewGreen says:

      Karl Turner is the new special friend of BBC local radio staff, cos he is their agent in parliament lobbying against the proposed changes.

      He scratched their back, now they are scratching his.


      • MarkyMark says:

        ame of donor: European Parliamentary Forum on Population and Development
        Address of donor: 23 Rue Montoyer, 1000 Brussels, Belgium

        Estimate of the probable value (or amount of any donation): Flights and accommodation £1,350; other travel £36; per diem £180; misc. expenditure £575; total value £2,141

        Destination of visit: El Salvador and Guatemala

        Dates of visit: 21-28 January 2017



  34. MarkyMark says:

    Jo Brand battery acid joke ‘went too far’, BBC rules
    29 August 2019



    Following the complaints unit’s ruling, a BBC spokesperson said: “We note the findings and that the BBC’s ECU concluded the comments did not condone violence and that no subject matter should be beyond the scope of comedy.”


  35. Sluff says:

    BBC showcasing planned strike by nurses.
    But to be fair, they helpfully show their salaries.
    £45 k for an experienced nurse does not seem too bad to me.

    Of course the BBC fail to mention the fantastic public sector unfunded pension entitlement that goes with it. Let’s add 20% minimum..

    Nor the rock solid job security and ability to flex working hours through life – for children for instance. Not open to many private sector workers.

    If all the facts were known, maybe the gullible public would not be quite so gullible.
    Which is of course why the BBC won’t mention them


    • Fedup2 says:

      Don’t forget the private work and agency working where the main effort is to do as little as possible – not seeing the same patient twice ….

      And the ‘cover ups ‘ ‘falsification of records ‘ ‘punishment of patients / family for challenging or being a nuisance . ….

      I’ll give you an example . My mum had dementia – she had a fall and spent the day in A and E – I was there through out . She was extremely disorientated – there was nothing they could find physically wrong .

      But some kidult decided they wanted to keep her overnight on a General ward – they had beds and wards back then . I advised against it as I knew what would happen . I was only ‘the son’ so wtf would I know .

      So come 10 pm I was told to go home . I kept telling them she’d be better at home – I’d be there …. But no ….

      5 hours later – my phone rings . The ward . Did they kill her ? No – I could hear the screaming in the background …. An hour later I’m taking my mother home – 4am – she was better when she got to familiar surroundings and quiet . Dementia can be like that .

      So nurses ? Medical mafia ? Eff them – go strike – starve them back to work ..

      Get clapping-

      I’ll enjoy the BBC reporting on the ‘hardship ‘


      • Sluff says:

        Fed up

        I support your general message about the way the NHS blob treats dementia patients 100%.

        My dad (with dementia) was sent home with a cannula still stuck in his arm !!!!

        When I remonstrated I was told I had to take him back to hospital. I lived 200 miles away so not entirely practical.

        Having failed to contact his GP or the district nurses I contacted the hospital and on the 5 th or 6 th occasion I got through to an A and E sister who agreed to take responsibility. She got a district nurse to visit – my original request !!!!!!!!

        Next up, how about leaving a dementia patient unsupervised in A and E for several hours?? My dad had this happen to him. He walked out, not really knowing what he was doing. The first I heard about it was from the Police because the hospital had reported him missing.. I’ll spare you further detail.

        With examples like that you’ll understand why my opinion on our NHS heroes is not entirely the same as those in the left wing intelligentsia, and why I did not, and will never clap for them.

        Sad to say, the voting, even on this esteemed website, tends to be more sympathetic to this incompetent, unreformable nationalised industry, than on other issues.


      • Rob in Cheshire says:


        Something similar happened to the mother of a friend. She tried to get out of bed to go to the toilet and fell out and broke her femur. It didn’t do the old lady much good, and she died not long after.

        The nurses lied and said she had had a “controlled fall”, which was rubbish. It seems very likely the paperwork was altered to conceal their negligence.

        I think he got a payout in the order of £10k, but only after he started legal proceedings. By taking the money, none of this ever came out in court, but who can blame him?

        The NHS is falling apart before our eyes.


      • G says:

        Just been presented with a somewhat forceful email, but ‘inviting’ me to join an outfit named, “DrDoctor”. They miss out, “Ltd”. All seems above board even the logo of my local Health Authority is used. Seems DrDoctor purports to be a portal for all my health info. And they will store ALL of same……………..

        Once in there is no easy way out.

        Limited Co. Registered in 2021 and managed by two Indians purporting to be “Danish”.

        Note not a Non-Profit Company.

        Watch out.


        • Fred Stubber says:

          I’ve complained to the local CCG about dodgy companies being allowed to use the NHS logo. I just got a fuck off reply.


    • MarkyMark says:

      ‘Deeply worrying’ research suggests 25% of nurses in England are obese



      NHS to benefit from £13.4 billion debt write-off
      Health Secretary announces over £13 billion of debt will be written off as part of a major financial reset for NHS providers.



  36. Thoughtful says:

    It seems the US voters like high inflation and high fuel prices and are voting for more of the same as the ‘Red Wave’ fails to materialise.

    It looks like there were far too many Democrat voters for this to have been fraud as might well be claimed, it’s probably that the Republicans are as useless and complacent as the Tories here are


    • Rob in Cheshire says:


      As long as the Democrats control the electronic voting machines, they will have just as many “voters” as they need.

      Paper ballots, in person voting and voter ID are like sunlight to a vampire for the Democratic crime machine.


  37. BRISSLES says:

    Interestingly on a GBN debate show, (re striking nurses and NHS funding) I heard – for the first time ever – someone comment that nurses go into management having reached the top of their pay grade, knowing it won’t get any higher.

    This is the travesty of the NHS, and one of the reasons why there is a shortage of nurses and management is top heavy !! I saw it first hand – nurses of many years standing taking paid leave to attend management courses, then being slotted into a ‘job’ where the title is ‘Manager’ with a significant pay rise. They can then attend endless non-productive meetings, wear a suit and walk about all day with files under their arms.

    So much money could be saved by just having this practice investigated.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Good way to get a free parking space too .. privatise it – or as much as possible…( I know this can never happen because of the ‘clappers ‘)


  38. andyjsnape says:

    Not bBC, but …
    Boy, 16, ‘stabbed to death’ after he slapped teenager who was trying to steal his phone, court hears

    Thought i’d look at the names of the involved:-
    Stelios Averkiou
    Kyi-Riece Sylvester
    Leon Gruber

    bBC would be proud, multiculturism at its best

    Donald Trump warns Ron DeSantis against 2024 presidential bid

    And they are off, the bBC at its best, anything positive to report to the plebs that pay your wages?


  39. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – radio is an unforgiving medium, the Toady presenters need to learn this

    There was no disguising the joy in the TOADY presenters voices: they have claimed another Conservative Government Ministerial scalp. Gavin Williamson has chosen to resign after the LeftyLibbyMob – even in his own Party – went after him. I am left wondering whether the claims about him and allegations about what he said and tweeted are true.

    It does seem these days one can make up some thing, an event, make a claim and the LeftyLibbyMob, including the BBC, will repeat it as true. No traditional British justice; innocent until proven guilty any more.


    • Fedup2 says:

      I don’t think he denied the quotes – but the episode shows the danger of communication by the internet – text – even with people in the same party . Dirty business – never a shortage of politicians – particularly whether it’s a choice of coke or coke .

      I always admired that aspect of ‘the thick of it ‘ where it was often not possible to discern which party was which – all just a swamp ….
      I don’t think the BBC can claim the scalp – that was the whip girls – very thin skin ladies … but now they can get back to braverman ….


      • Up2snuff says:

        Fed, yes that’s right. Don’t know why politicians are on Twitter and Facebook a.k.a. soshal mejaah.


  40. StewGreen says:

    Karl Turner does toxic tweets
    He accuses an MP of lying without showing proper evidence
    On June 26th this year when he’s supposed to be working as an MP he tweeted at 7:30pm “Why *lie* even about going for a jog”

    alongside a video of Boris’s Range Rover pulling up outside a hotel then he gets out, he’s in shorts and does a very short jog and waves to photographers as he enters the hotel.

    Turner’s hundreds of followers clap like seals
    taking it as face value Boris has just done a lie.
    Has he ?

    2 hours later Turner tweets a clarification.
    Its not a new video .. it’s 1 year old
    “This was Tory Party conference last year (2021).
    The broadcast media and general press used the footage as if he’d been for a jog when in fact *he’d jogged only from the car to the side door of the hotel*(approximated 4 metres) where press were gathered to take the images.

    Who is lying ?
    There is no “as if” .. Boris’s protection officers are also wearing shorts, so the likely explanation is that Boris really has been on a run.
    That he and the security team had driven to a running location, done his run and got back into the car and driven back into the security zone around the conference hotel and then he’d done that photo wave
    Boris is hardly likely to have run off street into a Conservative Party conference , cos that would have involved running through the hatey Labour supporters that scream from outside the security zone.

    If Turner wants to argue that Boris, the press and the protection officers are involved in a HUGE lie and there was no run at all, it’s up to him HUGE evidence

    Screenshot https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhHoK-dXwAE1bRs?format=jpg&name=small
    .. https://www.twitter.com/KarlTurnerMP/status/1541159846497718273


    • StewGreen says:

      Also before Sep 2020
      Labour frontbencher Karl Turner quickly deleted tweet in 4mins of posting in which he used the hashtag #ToriesKilledYourGranny

      The labour MP was responding to a tweet by Tory health minister Nadine Dorries

      Also “news.sky.com
      Labour MP Karl Turner denies misogyny after allegedly ‘slapping woman’s buttocks’..”


  41. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #2 – radio is an unforgiving medium, the Toady presenters need to learn this

    Toady had JustRemainIn Webb (and the naughty Naughtie!) out of the country and in the USA. It is amazing, the BBC’s obsession with the USA. It is total. I wonder why? There was no disguising the delight in Webb’s and Naughtie’s voices that the Democratic Party had not done so badly, as forecast, in the mid-terms.

    The pair also seemed to be delighted that Ron de Santis had done well in Florida and would maybe go up against Donald Trump in the Republican Primaries, if Trump decides to run in 2024.

    No mention, of course, of the Global Warming emissions created by Webb and Naughtie in travelling unnecessarily to and within the USA when they have a perfectly competent US Editor and several correspondents within the USA already. Wasteful BBC. Stop paying the TellyTax and save the planet!


  42. Eddy Booth says:

    So who’s going to win the Senate?
    Or is going to depend on 2nd round voting on the 5th of Dec..


  43. andyjsnape says:

    The worlds most trust, thinks it knows

    Will Donald Trump run for president again? On the eve of the US midterm elections, reporter Hilary Andersson visits Selma, North Carolina, to find out whether voters want him back. Trump’s final days in office saw his supporters attack the US Capitol, bringing the country to the brink. The country has remained dangerously divided. As many Republican candidates line up to support Trump’s claim that the 2020 election was stolen, Panorama asks whether American democracy can withstand the destructive forces now converging upon it.

    PS nothing seems to have come of the “his supporters attack the US Capitol, bringing the country to the brink”

    But don’t forget to keep mentioning it!


  44. StewGreen says:

    Red-io Humberside looking a bit red
    Labour MP retweeting the presenter who brags he’s the union rep


  45. Terminal Moraine says:

    Have to say I’m quite looking forward to the Qatar world cup: “World Cup 2022: Bayern Munich’s Leon Goretzka condemns Khalid Salman’s LGBTQ+ comments.”

    Not so much who’s going to win, but the real contest is shaping up to be Islam vs LGBTQ+. Toe to toe; community to community. We know the BBC have a sterling record of pretending there’s no clash of cultures when it’s just a Batley schoolteacher forced into a life of hiding, or three gay men stabbed to death in a Reading park. But now big money and big telly is involved so they can’t entirely sweep it under the carpet.

    Instead of half time punditry, how about getting an Imam and Peter Tatchell in the studio to debate matters? Could spice up some of those dull early group matches.



    • MarkyMark says:

      Edward John Izzard was born in Aden (then in Aden Colony and now in Yemen) on 7 February 1962, to English parents Dorothy Ella Izzard (1927–1968) and Harold John Michael Izzard (1928–2018).


  46. Fedup2 says:

    As I understand it – each time a minister leaves office they gat a £17000 payoff … which means the one just fired / resigned has got 3 doses in a year ….


  47. Terminal Moraine says:

    Lunchtime humour:


  48. StewGreen says:

    Local news this morning poor Karl Turner he gets toxic tweets eg being called a liar
    Last night he tweeted
    “@GavinWilliamson will collect 17K for doing a complete none job in the cabinet for a couple of weeks.”
    .. https://mobile.twitter.com/KarlTurnerMP/status/1590101449467654147
    Today many people replied calling Turner a “liar”
    as it is pretty certain GW will NOT take such a payment
    In fact Turner’s claim was tweeted at 9:58pm
    Yet Williamson had already tweeted NO earlier at 9:55pm
    .. https://www.twitter.com/GavinWilliamson/status/1590100671902396416


    • StewGreen says:

      Oh there is a second lie in Turner’s tweet
      He talks about newly qualified nurses getting a band 1 salary

      That’s impossible. Newly qualified nurses start on band 5.


  49. Jeff says:

    Well, I suppose we all knew it was bound to happen, another call for a hand-out from us Brit’s to the third world. Inevitable…

    Cop 27…or whatever beedin’ cop it is… has brought us the usual virtue signalling whingers and chancers, blaming Britain for the problems of the world. It’s bloody sad that both Sunak and Boris happen to be among them, but…is anyone surprised? I’m not.

    Of course, Blighty must be blamed for the horror of industrialising the planet. It was, after all, British engineering and scientific genius that led to the industrial revolution. Blimey, if we’d been waiting for Africans, Asians or native Antipodeans to come up with something this innovative, we’d have been waiting a heck of a long time…We’d still be waiting…

    Now, some might argue, that these other races have all benefitted from Britain’s genius. I mean, they’re all driving cars, using tarmac roads, flying around the planet (just so they can moan about you and I flying to Benidorm!) using western medicines, having their farmed food delivered to supermarkets and enjoying television.

    If it wasn’t for, primarily, British…or at least… British hereditary peoples, the planet would look very different

    Do we listen to these third world parasites and spoiled brats like Greta and apologise for all those wonderful things the British and our cousins have done for mankind? I don’t think so…

    I’m reminded of a poem by the great, though unfashionable, Rudyard Kipling, The White Man’s Burden. The old memory isn’t quite what it was, but there’s one verse that goes…

    Take up the White Man’s burden
    The savage wars of peace
    Fill the mouth of famine
    And bid the sickness cease.

    You know, instead of constantly apologising, wringing our hands and looking guilty.

    Perhaps we should present the rest of the world with a bill…


    • MarkyMark says:

      Africa started the first fires to keep warm at night – where there is a blame there is a claim.


    • BRISSLES says:

      Greta Thunberg is Swedish. A quick Google as to what Sweden has contributed to the world ……………..

      Adjustable wrench. …
      Digital doctors. …
      Einride. …
      The Karma app. …
      Life-saving drones. …
      Oat milk. …
      Pacemaker. …
      Three-point seatbelt.
      the VOLVO


      • TrickCyclist says:

        Don’t forget Sweden’s contribution to the Second World War – selling the iron ore on which Nazi Germany was dependent, and allowing the Wehrmacht to travel through it’s “neutral” territory using Swedish railways.
        According to Churchill, Sweden “ignored the greater moral issues of the war and played both sides for profit.”