373 Responses to Start the week 5 June 2023

  1. Up2snuff says:

    OK. Just in the door after visiting an elderly friend who has been unwell. Brissles will be annoyed and think I was ‘lurking with intent’. That’s OK; if you are prepared to defund the BBC all the better They love money at the BBC, they really do. As Scripture says: “The love of money is the root of all evil.” (1 Timothy 6 v 10)


  2. StewGreen says:

    Labour #MagicalThinking gets ratioed

    Not only are wind & solar rubbish electricity sources
    cos they only show up when they feel like it

    They also pay zero mining taxes
    so the British taxpayer gets poorer and poorer


    • Ian Rushlow says:

      Ah, but they do generate lotsa money for the Chinese companies that make solar cells and the mainly foreign companies that own the wind farms. Which is their Exact Function (WEF).


      • MarkyMark says:

        2010 … So as Gamesa executives see it, they made the right bet by coming to China. And they insist that they have no regrets about having trained more than 500 Chinese machinery companies as a cost of playing by Beijing’s rules — even if those rules have sometimes flouted international trade law. It is simply the table stakes of playing in the biggest game going.

        “If we would not have done it, someone else would have done it,” said Jorge Calvet, Gamesa’s chairman and chief executive.


    • MarkyMark says:


      Wind turbines have an average life of over 25 years. Rapid evolution of wind technology has lead to an increase in the durability of wind turbines.

      Exposed: Child labour behind smart phone and electric car batteries
      Major electronics brands, including Apple, Samsung and Sony, are failing to do basic checks to ensure that cobalt mined by child labourers has not been used in their products, said Amnesty International and Afrewatch in a report published today.


      Some batteries can lose as much as 50% of capacity in winter.4 May 2023



      • Up2snuff says:

        BBC WEB-SITE Watch #1 – ah, waking up at last BBC!

        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-65602519 Even those arch-enthusiasts for Global Warming & Climate Change, the BBC – “The science is settled.” – have realised a future full of EdStones will be a future full of headstones, for the environment at least, with large areas given over to dead wind turbines and dead solar panels, and probably dead heat pumps, too.


        • MarkyMark says:


          While they are being promoted around the world as a crucial weapon in reducing carbon emissions, solar panels only have a lifespan of up to 25 years.

          Energy experts are calling for urgent government action to prevent a looming global environmental disaster.

          “It’s going to be a waste mountain by 2050, unless we get recycling chains going now,” says Ute Collier, deputy director of the International Renewable Energy Agency.


          UK can be ‘Saudi Arabia of wind power’ – PM
          24 September 2020


          • G says:


            I’m very surprised at the photo. Slipped up there: In common with their policy of denigrating white people, the BBC could have found a fork truck driver without gloves showing white hands controlling the machine…………….


            • MarkyMark says:

              Majority Panels white side up! Winning!


            • JohnC says:

              I beg to differ.

              The choice of the BBC would be a female – preferably black – driving the fork-lift.

              Wearing brand-new, unsoiled overalls of course.


              • G says:

                Well, they kept out of sexism: we don’t know whether it is male or female and or black or crimson driving and besides if ‘Surkeer’ was to adjudicate he couldn’t even determine the sex on normally understood attributes.


  3. Thatcherrevolutionary says:

    Two people I know (not close) committed suicide in the last seven days. 1 guy at work signed off after serious mental health issues regarding self harm. What is going on?


    • Zephir says:

      The complete and utter frustration of watching lies, actively and by omission, being perpetrated by the bbc and the US Democrat party in plain sight on a daily basis, and the villification of anyone challenging them must have a toll.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Sad news . Condolences . I lost a good friend to suicide many years ago – he was 25 and broke up with his wife . It made me think about why people kill themselves -mas well as ‘self harm ‘- which I’ve also seen at close hand ….

      Judging by the news there seems far more cases of serious mental illness now . The numbers of ( male ) suicides also seems to be increasing .

      Causes ? Well the most obvious is the long term consequences of the response to the Chinese virus .

      I’ve said here before that Fear is now the ‘go to ‘ emotion – mainly caused by the MSM which pours fear out all the time .
      The green crap doesn’t help – particularly – I think – for the young – who in my view should be ‘care free ‘ for as long as possible . So sexualising them must do untold harm – yet alone telling the the planet will die unless they recycle …..

      Lastly – of course – there is the absence of guidance on the Good Way to Live and be Happy . The likes of the BBC is the opposite to this .

      I’m glad I am strong enough to repel the output of the BBC and it’s one of the many reasons I hate it and want it to die ….


    • MarkyMark says:

      We live in a world where living is evil – green party say stop breathing – politicians say stop flying and exploring – greta says stop having fun – schools say change sex every day – politicians lie and the bbc says you are evil and need to give others your money.


      I wish I’d never been born: the rise of the anti-natalists
      Adherents view life not as a gift and a miracle, but a harm and an imposition. And their notion that having children may be a bad idea seems to be gaining mainstream popularity


    • Up2snuff says:

      Thatch, that is sad. Were they young? I blame the media, both print and broadcast media, for the continual ‘Fears’ that they push out. No wonder young people have mental health ‘issues’ and suffer from anxiety and no longer bother with school. I think it is a crime against humanity, especially young people.


      • Fedup2 says:

        Really it’s a nightmare which is additionally fueled by social media and 24 hour access to ‘news ‘..

        ..I wonder if the many who only care about Holly and Phil and footy are mentally healthier than those who fret about the next rate rise …

        .. writing of which – I notice the talk about rates hitting their peak now is being replaced with ‘another 0.5% ‘ by 2024 … still not enough ….

        Each time I do a supermarket I notice something which has shot up in price…


        • Up2snuff says:

          Fed, the Saudis have done the dirty on the West on the inflation front. I think King Charles should ‘have a quiet word’, Terence Donovan-stylee with the Saudi King.

          Last time I bought milk at Aldi, the price at last had come down something they promised weeks ago. Hopefully, the cheese price will follow.


    • Deborah says:

      My condolences Thatcher. Whether it is all part of the WEF or Gates plan, I don’t know. For those of us skeptical about climate change, the world is not a happy place because we can see how such stupid laws and pressures are destroying our way of life. But equally if you believe in all this guff, you are not happy either as the world is going to end in 10 minutes. Add on to that struggling with mortgages or rents, cost of food and if you live in an area near a ULEZ zone or equivalent and have an old car… and if you are worried about your physical health and cannot get to see a doctor. (I might add you might be able to see a doctor but the BBC tells you that you will never get an appointment). All this creates a world without hope. It is not just the UK otherwise we all could emigrate. We are not in a very happy place right now. For those of us who regularly read this site, think of it as a support system and somewhere to let off steam.


      • G says:


        There’s no doubt about it, the World is in the hands of those exercising a collective Death Wish. But which, ‘death’ I ask myself. War starting in South China sea seems favourite.


        • Fedup2 says:

          I reckon the likehood of a war for peace in either eastern europe ( all refugees welcome? No) or in south china sea is likely to be a ‘ double act ‘ with the addition of other simmering hostilities kicking off thereafter
          And all probably too quick to do much about eg 1914 on steroids ..


          • Up2snuff says:

            Fed, the Saudis cutting their oil output to push up the market price is not going to help South Sudan. The newest country in the world is likely now to be even more attractive to the warlords currently fighting over Khartoum. I wouldn’t be surprised if Sudan attacked South Sudan in a repeat of the war of the last decade. That might spread to other parts of Africa.


      • Eddy Booth says:

        Appears we’re being attacked on 3 main fronts by the globalists: net zero, mass immigration and LGBT.
        Guess a move to a nationalist country like Russia is going to be the only escape, at least for the youngsters..


    • StewGreen says:

      Suicide charity stats
      115 people die by suicide in the UK every week – with 75% of those deaths being male (ONS)
      ie the death rate for males THREE times that of females
      1 in 5 people have suicidal thoughts (NHS Digital)
      1 in 14 people self-harm (NHS Digital)
      1 in 15 people attempt suicide (NHS Digital)
      Males aged 45-49 have the highest suicide rate (Samaritans)
      10% of young people self-harm (Mental Health Foundation)

      but they then say ” 9% of employees are experiencing thoughts of suicide or self-harm”
      em it is wrong to bunch the extreme together.
      but it does show the growth trend is there but not huge
      “year-on-year, the number of employees experiencing thoughts of suicide or self-harm has increased from 8% to 9%.”
      The charity then mixes up the two extremes
      Also it fails to mention the growth was post Covid
      and that the Covid year had lower suicide

      Another charity says
      “Suicide rates in the UK are generally decreasing,”


  4. Zephir says:

    “The Impossible Insurrection of January 6
    The right couldn’t stage a coup because liberals dominate nearly every institution of American politics and culture. Yet liberals refuse to see it.”



  5. Zephir says:

    “Hope not hate


    From the moment Britain’s first fascist group was established 100 years ago, it faced resistance. Most of us know our communities are stronger together – that HOPE is more powerful than hate.

    This year we are marking a century of Britain’s fascist and anti-fascist movements. We have written a report and created an interactive timeline revealing the fascist threats of the past and the inspiring stories of the people who fought back – through direct action, music, art and community building.”



  6. Zephir says:

    “Met Police drop investigation into Oxford Street Chanukah bus attack
    Exclusive: Police confirm they have closed probe into the November 2021 incident, in which men abused a bus carrying a group of young Jews, after they fail to identify the suspects”


  7. digg says:

    And the prize for the most inane juvenile front page story of 2023 so far goes to…..


    Oh! and by the way it seems 250 Ukrainian soldiers have been killed by the Russians…


  8. harry142857 says:

    Didn’t any of the production team just mix red and white paint to make pink?


  9. Guest Who says:

    Surely that is steam from a Guardian energy generating report?


  10. AsISeeIt says:

    Flaming June and who’s sorry now edition

    I see that the latest line in the rare black-veined white butterfly story is that rather than regard its sudden appearance in south east London as having occured naturally, experts now prefer the lab-leak, or somesuch, theory: …the insects were probably released by an enthusiast (Times)

    Our media never let any news report with an iota of global warming potential go to waste: So as Britain enjoys above-average temperatures, naturalists have had their hopes raised… A temperature of 25C was recorded yesterday in Porthmadog, Gwynedd – so of course because it was a sunny day in Wales these scarce sun-loving butterflies suddenly turned up right on cue: …in a group of hawthorn and blackthorn trees near Bromley – makes perfect sense.

    Stir Crazy was the 1980 prison buddy comedy movie directed by Sidney Poitier, written by the much-underated author Bruce Jay Friedman and starring Gene Wilder and Richard Pryor

    The formerly sensible Times has put on the sunnies and gone Spring crazy: The Met Office says it could reach 27C in the south this week – well, blimey, looky here… it’s Flaming June

    Weatherwatch: Flaming June – a painting not a forecast… How a popular Victorian painting became a misleading catchphrase for June weather – rarely flaming, and generally unsettled… Flaming June is the title of Sir Frederic Leighton’s 1895 painting of a woman in an orange dress sleeping under a canopy in the summer heat. (Thank you the Guardian)

    Cute kid in sunglasses pictured frontpage – the very image of Spring: Ella Williamson, eight, enjoys the sunshine in Troon, South Ayrshire (Times)

    Of course the once venerable Times is in good down and dirty red top tabloid company with their pseudo Cor Wot a Scorcher! (forecast): We’re oven ready Brits… Hopes of heatwave rose yesterday as weather boffins predict the mercury will rise to 27C (Daily Star)

    And of course the posh friends of Greta are out in force: Darcy Jackson, two, with Wilf the lurcher at Dogstival in Hampshire yesterday. Temperatures across Britain were among the hottest of the year so far (Guardian) – you’ll note, perhaps, there’s about a cigarette paper’s difference between Times and Guardian presentation – if anything the Gruan’s child of the sunshine photographed centre frontpage is a tad posher… Darcy… Wilf the lurcher… Dogstival…!

    Battle lines are drawn over the Covid Inquiry – it’s going to drag on forever so we may as well thrash out all the issues first in the media

    Lockdown benefits ‘a drop in the bucket compared to the costs’… Draconian measures were a policy failure that saved as few as 1,700 lives in England and Wales in Spring 2020, major study finds (Telegraph) – to which Lockdown enthusiasts will no doubt counter: Well, if it saves just one life we should happily cancel our civil liberties, trash the entire economy, frighten the bejesus out of granny and demoralise the working population.

    The Guardian explains what’s going to be the counter argument – the Tores… the Tories… the Tories: Tory austerity left Britain ‘hugely unprepared’ for Covid, say unions… TUC report seeks to put ‘tragic’ impact of cuts on agenda as inquiry begins

    Batting for the other side

    I guess that’s why they call it the Blues… Elton celebrates with City (Daily Express) – I thought Elton John famously supported Watford FC, becoming chairman in 1976? Has he come out for Man City?

    Who’s Sorry Now was a hit for Connie Francis way back in 1958. More recently in the late 70s Robert Lindsay’s comic character “Wolfie” Smith the self-styled `Che Guevara of Tooting’ in the BBC One sitcom Citizen Smith joked that he was moved on while busking his rendition of Who’s Sorry Now outside the local maternity clinic.

    So there was Lockdown – which only now we can question, now there’s this proxy war we’ve gotten ourselves involved in.

    Whose side are they on?

    Opec+: Oil prices rise as Saudi Arabia pledges output cuts… The seven hour-long meeting on Sunday of the oil-rich nations, led by Russia, came against a backdrop of falling energy prices. (BBC)

    Who’s winning?

    Russia says it thwarted major Ukrainian offensive (BBC)

    When will our Proxy War Inquiry begin?


    • MarkyMark says:

      “No army in the history of war can sustain losses like this and prevail. Ukraine is not following military doctrine. It is being coerced by the West in launching desperate suicide missions that are not going to change the strategic picture on the ground. Instead, it is just more meat grinding, which the Russians are happy to do. Too bad that Lt. Col. Crawford does not have the stones to go forward with the Ukrainians and put his own neck on the line. This is needless slaughter.”



      • Up2snuff says:

        MM, it may, however, result in spiritual revival, evangelical Christian revival among the nominally Eastern Orthodox people of Ukraine. Where humans do bad, God often works to bring good.


  11. andyjsnape says:

    Universal basic income: Plans drawn up for £1,600 a month trial in England

    Time to give up work and have some free money


    • MarkyMark says:

      Stop Hate Preacher Anjem Choudary Getting A Safe House & Benefits
      He’s A Preacher Of Hate Against The Good Christian People Of Britain. Why The Hell Should Us Tax Payers Fund His Life


      Why was this petition rejected?
      It’s about something that the UK Government or Parliament is not directly responsible for.


      • Greencoat says:

        Don’t worry, ‘Hope Not Hate’ have got his number.
        Oh, hang on….


    • MarkyMark says:

      “On top of the £1.15m budget for the basic income payments over two years, there would be further costs of about £500,000 for the project’s evaluation activities, admin, and community support teams.”

      Someone is getting paid to administer it ! HA HA HA

      “£500,000 for the project’s evaluation activities” – 2 people?


    • digg says:

      The natural extension to this looney exercise is to bring in a law that customers should be entitled to pay only what they decide they want to pay for anything.

      Can’t wait to pop down to my local car showroom to snap up a nice Ferrari for a tenner or so!


  12. Guest Who says:

    TNI time?


  13. MarkyMark says:

    Oil prices rise as Saudi Arabia pledges output cuts

    Saudi crown prince asked Boris Johnson to intervene in Newcastle United bid
    This article is more than 2 years old
    Mohammed bin Salman warned of damage to Saudi-UK relations if Premier League refusal not ‘corrected’




  14. Zephir says:

    “Hope not hate

    Last week, we launched a campaign calling on Waterstones, Foyles, WHSmith, and Amazon to remove from their websites some of the most extreme and dangerous nazi, racist and Holocaust denial literature ever published in the English language. This included books such as the infamous bomb making manual The Anarchist Cookbook and the race war fiction The Turner Diaries, which has inspired numerous terrorist attacks including the Oklahoma City bombing and the Copeland Nail Bomb attacks in London.”

    And, still available at Waterstones:


    Why I’m No Longer Talking to White People About Race

    necessary wake-up call to pervasive, institutionalised racism, Eddo-Lodge’s searing polemic reconstitutes the frame of the argument around race, removing it from the hands of those with little experience of its resonances. From ambient and lazy cultural stereotyping to open hostility, Why I’m No Longer Talking to White People About Race is a clarion call of understanding.

    Me and White Supremacy

    Packed with practical exercises and enlightening socio-political context, the book of Saad’s pioneering blog offers numerous ways of transforming the discourse surrounding systemic racism.

    They Can’t Kill Us All

    Wesley Lowery’s account of Black Lives Matter tracks the formation of the movement in the wake of the murder of Trayvon Martin and the political ramifications of mass protest. Filled with heartbreaking personal testimony of those who have suffered police violence



    • MarkyMark says:

      Anti-Natalism: Rejectionist Philosophy from Buddhism to Benatar (Paperback)
      Ken Coates (author)


      Anti-Natalism = Genocide.


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Trayvon Martin wasn’t murdered, he was a thug who was beating a man’s head against the pavement. The victim shot and killed him. In Britain, the victim would have died instead. The media made up the new category of “white Hispanic” for the victim, because everything is racist now.


  15. Zephir says:

    Sounds like they are full of hope, not hate

    And Waterstones bookshelves are heaving with such hopeful and not hateful material.

    “Your Silence Will Not Protect You

    Essays and Poems (Paperback) Audre Lorde (1934-92) described herself as ‘Black, lesbian, mother, warrior, poet’. ”



  16. MarkyMark says:


    LiveLIVEHolly Willoughby returns to This Morning after Schofield exit



    • taffman says:

      Its a diversion tactic to take us away from the real mess that Tories are putting us all in .


  17. taffman says:

    We are being invaded and nowt on Al Beeb today. Expect more illegal Channel crossings as the weather improves.”Stop the boats” Rishi, “Stop the boats” and defend our shores.

    Physically stopping the boats is the only way it can be achieved . Running around parliament like headless chickens waving new bills and passing new laws is just bluster to convince prospective Tory voters.
    There are alternatives …….. https://www.reformparty.uk


    • MarkyMark says:

      80 seat majority – 0 action.

      2012 … “Two and a half years ago, the coalition government was formed, and we made a clear promise to the British public. After thirteen years of uncontrolled mass immigration, this government would reduce and control immigration.” – Theresa May 2012

      2015 … “Because when immigration is too high (no figure given), when the pace of change is too fast, it’s impossible to build a cohesive society.” – Theresa May 2015

      2018 … “Over the years, overall, immigration has been good for the UK. It has brought people with different backgrounds, different outlooks here to the UK,” – Theresa May 2018



    • G says:


      Time to form another ‘shadow’ Parliament of true British consisting of all the basic trades (if they can be found), untainted by all the nonsense ubiquitously integrated in the current bunch. Then, demand Parliament be closed and all of them to step aside (including the Lords). Then, Taffman, your, “…alternatives…” could be realised. But I suspect that if this proposal comes about, there would be a dearth of boats setting out from France. They might be, so-called, ‘destitute’ and ‘Fleeing war and pestilence’ but they sure ain’t stupid enough to know what a ‘People’s Parliament’ would do……………..


  18. MarkyMark says:


    Saudi Arabia slashes oil production and threatens to do ‘whatever is necessary’ to boost prices
    The move is likely to inflame tensions with US President Joe Biden and risks reigniting inflation in Britain and Europe

    James Titcomb
    4 June 2023 • 7:45pm


    • taffman says:

      We the UK, have vast OIl resources .


      • MarkyMark says:

        Shhhh … we need more solar panels from China!

        What percentage of solar panels are manufactured in China?
        Distribution of solar photovoltaic module production worldwide in 2021, by country
        Characteristic Distribution of production
        China 75%
        Vietnam 6.8%
        Malaysia 3.7%
        South Korea 3.3%


  19. Zephir says:


    “assertive antiracism is the only way not to be complicit in racist abuse.

    Not being racist is not enough. We have to be antiracist. everyone is, at times, complicit in racism whether they realise it or not,”


  20. andyjsnape says:

    FRONT PAGE NEWS (well in bbc land)

    Holly returns to This Morning – why does the bbc need to be involved in programmes which are nothing to do with it

    Surely some news your 23,000 staff can actually report on


    • MarkyMark says:

      1400+ raped kids hope to appear on the news again soon – unraped!


    • taffman says:

      Its a diversion tactic to take us away from the real mess that Tories are putting us all in .


    • MarkyMark says:

      AFTER painstaking research, the Daily Telegraph has exclusively discovered what TCW Defending Freedom readers have been sure of for the past three years, that ‘Ministers had “chilling” secret unit to curb lockdown dissent’.

      It announces: ‘A secretive government unit worked with social media companies in an attempt to curtail discussion of controversial lockdown policies during the pandemic, the Telegraph can reveal.’

      Shock! Perhaps the brave Telegraph could tell us how many of its journalists work on behalf of the CIA/77th Brigade.

      Horror! Maybe it can give readers more information about the $3,445,801 donated to the Telegraph by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, reported in 2021.

      Shock! Could this be the same newspaper that sacked the world’s greatest cartoonist and Covid truth-teller, Bob Moran, in October 2021?

      Horror! Is this the same newspaper that had a constantly updated banner showing the number of alleged Covid deaths?

      Shock! Perhaps the intrepid newspaper can reveal how much it received from the Government for terrifying Covid advertising.




      • Deborah says:

        I think the time came when I realised there was over egging of the covid scare by the MSM was the item on the BBC news from Clive Myrie reporting from a morgue. It was unnecessary and over the top. I assumed it was because Clive and the BBC hoped to win an award for their ‘serious journalism’. But it quickly disappeared. I think now that the nudge unit or whoever was pushing these stories realised that if they pushed too hard then a large number of the population would see they were being manipulated.


        • MarkyMark says:

          The late Top of the Pops presenter had free access to the mortuary from the late 1970s to the mid-1990s, an official investigation has found, concluding that Savile’s interest in the deceased was “not within accepted boundaries”.26 Jun 2014


        • jazznick1 says:

          It only takes me 2 or 3 minutes of BBC Radio or TV to feel that I’m being manipulated and/or ignored.


  21. Fedup2 says:

    I think recent history is already being written – challenges to the vaccine – the origin of the Chinese virus – being whitewashed …..
    …. I want to have faith in the coming inquiry but I think professor hindsite will be the main victim of inept public authorities ….
    I bet the shredders of documents and hard drives have been busy ..


    • MarkyMark says:

      relax ….

      MPs’ EXPENSES: Blair’s £43,000 expenses were shredded ‘by incompetence’
      UPDATED: 01:40, 14 May 2009


      Dear Darren Henry,

      Parliament’s £13 billion restoration.

      HS2 £150 billion, original budget £36 billion.

      Track and Trace £37 billion – no tracking or tracing where this money went.

      £1.1bn of COVID small business loans identified as fraud

      £4 billion of unusable PPE bought in first year of pandemic will be burnt “to generate power”

      13 + 150 + 37 + 1.1+ 4 = £205 billion

      Nuclear reactor = £6 billion

      Yours sincerely,
      Mr H


    • Zephir says:

      Rewritten, without awkward facts getting in the way



  22. andyjsnape says:

    Poland: hundreds of thousands march against rightwing populist government

    I wonder what the Polish people really think of the eu


    • MarkyMark says:

      In July 2021, Poland’s Constitutional Tribunal ruled that applying measures taken by the Court of Justice of the EU to the Polish judiciary was unconstitutional — a direct challenge to the authority of the EU court.15 Feb 2023


  23. Zephir says:


    Where were your black authors when this happened ?



  24. Zephir says:


  25. Zephir says:

    And where Trump is not available to blame for black and muslim racism, there must be another reason, anything but racism where the perpetrators are not white:

    “Corona virus hate crime”

    Not just simple racism then ?

    “Shocking attack as woman punched unconscious in ‘Coronavirus rage’ racist incident

    Police have launched an investigation as Meera Solanki was attacked after she stepped in when Chinese friend was told: “Take your f***ing coronavirus back home!”

    “There were a group of Asian men inside the venue – one of them kept coming up to me and harassing me. He seemed to have a problem with me being an Indian girl with a multi racial group of friends.”



  26. Zephir says:

    No one arrested

    As usual


  27. Zephir says:

    “Last night, a manager at Ana Rocha Bar confirmed the attack had taken place outside his premises, but said he was unaware what sparked the violence.

    The popular venue has CCTV of the incident

    A West Midlands Police spokeswoman said: “We’re investigating after a woman was assaulted after another was racially abused in Frederick Street, Hockley, around 2am on Sunday February 9.

    “A man made racist marks to one woman and after he was asked to stop he punched another female, in her 20s, in the face. She was temporarily knocked unconscious but escaped without serious injury.”


  28. StewGreen says:

    11am R4 Windrush: A Family Divided
    Part One: Work and Money
    Robert and Jennifer Beckford argue the pros and cons of Windrush 75 years on.

    Thank god finally R4 address the lack of coverage on London and black issues

    ep1 the couple look at Windrush generation’s success in terms of work and money.

    The topics for ep2 ep3 haven’t been published


    • MarkyMark says:

      Windrush – avoiding NHS payments all their lives?


    • JohnC says:

      What would be most interesting would if they did a program comparing the lives of the ‘Windrush’ people who came here with that of similar people back where they came from.

      But of course there is absolutely no chance of that. They MUST be portrayed as victims.


  29. Zephir says:


    Click to access hate_crime_against_london_highres_print_final.pdf

    Key Themes and Recommendations

    1. The ‘everyday’2 nature of Islamophobic incidents reported to the Police

    MPS: The Islamophobic incidents reported to and recorded by the Metropolitan Police Service generally occur as victims go about their daily lives, for example, in the street, in or near shops and restaurants or waiting for or on public transport. They are more likely to involve threats and harassment than violence, although one in five incidents.
    involved some degree of violence directed at the victim. The incidents
    generally involve conflict situations that become aggravated by
    Islamophobic or anti-Muslim words or actions or situations where
    perpetrators take immediate advantage of an opportunity that presents
    itself. Even incidents that show some degree of premeditation by the
    offender mostly involve letters or phone messages rather than direct contact with the victim.
    This does not mean, however, that the impact of these ‘everyday’
    incidents on the Muslim communities of London are any less severe or wide ranging. In fact, the ‘everyday’ nature of such incidents makes
    them more difficult for communities to avoid and their cumulative nature takes a large toll not just on individuals but on the communities
    as a whole


  30. Terminal Moraine says:

    Oh my aching sides — “Venezuela: ‘I’m paid to tweet state propaganda'”

    “Adrián González, founder of Cazadores de Fake News, a website debunking Venezuelan disinformation, says the government is using propaganda ‘to neutralise information they cannot control’ in an attempt to influence public perception online. One way it can do this is by drowning out the noise of its critics, particularly on Twitter.”

    Not to be confused with any shenanigans going on here of course. 77th Brigade? Counter-Disinformation Unit? SPI-B? Nudge Unit? MI5? Lucky we can trust in Ofcom and all the girls at Verify to tell us if anything similar was happening in the UK.



  31. Zephir says:

    The BBC’s claim that Jewish people targeted by an antisemitic attack on Oxford Street were themselves guilty of an “anti-Muslim slur” has been proved beyond any doubt to be inaccurate, after the findings of two independent reports published today.


  32. tomo says:


  33. Terminal Moraine says:

    FA Cup Final live commentary — normally viewer texts are football-specific, but the BBC can always make an exception if they’re bringing the right kind of extra detail like Nick does.



  34. Terminal Moraine says:

    Jemimah is a new addition to team Verify, fresh out of college. BBC is clearly taking a policy of recruiting mostly young girls with little life experience, and expecting the public to trust them as knowledge experts.

    Are funds that tight now or are they just incredibly stupid? Surely this is going to backfire at some point?

    Twitter: @HerdJemimah



    • MarkyMark says:

      “Winston had disliked her from the very first moment of seeing her. He knew the reason. It was because of the atmosphere of hockey−fields and cold baths and community hikes and general clean−mindedness which she managed to carry about with her. He disliked nearly all women, and especially the young and pretty ones. It was always the women, and above all the young ones, who were the most bigoted adherents of the Party, the swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies and nosers−out of unorthodoxy.”
      ― George Orwell, 1984


    • Northern Voter says:

      Didn’t one of the playschool toys have the name Jemimah?


  35. MarkyMark says:


    Wrestlers’ protest: The fake smiles of India’s detained sporting stars

    AI: War crimes evidence erased by social media platforms

    Ukraine war: Satellite images reveal Russian defences before major assault

    Nigeria election: The mystery of the altered results in disputed poll

    Why Nigel Farage is wrong about London being ‘minority white’

    “Mr Farage is wrong in most of this claim.”

    It turns out that 53.8% of Londoners said they were white in 2021 – so a white majority.

    In 2011, this figure was 59.8%.


    London has remained the region with both the largest proportion of people born outside the UK and the largest proportion of people with non-UK passports. In 2021, more than 4 in 10 (40.6%) usual residents in London were non-UK born, and more than 1 in 5 (23.3%) had a non-UK passport.2 Nov 2022


  36. Zephir says:

    @ MarkyMark
    June 5, 2023 at 10:28 am

    The late Top of the Pops presenter had free access to the mortuary from the late 1970s to the mid-1990s, an official investigation has found, concluding that Savile’s interest in the deceased was “not within accepted boundaries”.26 Jun 2014

    There was an old man called Dave

    who found a dead whore in a cave

    He said “I know it’s bad luck

    to have a cold fuck”

    But think of the money I’ll save


  37. tomo says:


    • MarkyMark says:

      “Kids are SO going to push back against this.”

      Nope – they will accept it thinking adults know best or they will get told off for disagreeing.


      ‘My first thought as I came round was Oh God! What have I done?’: Man suing the NHS over trans surgery he bitterly regrets has bravely waived anonymity to share his ordeal
      Ritchie Herron, 35, says life has been unbearable since surgery four years ago
      His case first emerged after he shared experience on Twitter under pseudonym
      He claims NHS failed to take mental health crisis into account before procedure

      PUBLISHED: 22:11, 25 June 2022 | UPDATED: 17:16, 28 June 2022


  38. Zephir says:

    Whilst in a poetic mood

    “Twas one day in September,

    as far as I remember,

    I walked the streets with alcoholic pride.

    I stumbled with a mutter,

    and fell down in the gutter,

    and a pig walked up and lay down by my side.

    As I lay down in the gutter

    thinking thoughts I dare not utter

    A woman walking past was heard to say

    “You can tell a man who boozies by the company that he chooses”

    And the f@cking pig got up and walked away


  39. StewGreen says:

    9am The R4 Advertise your book show
    BBC does flaky science
    10 mins in a woman Theresa MacPhail is spouting hyperbolic rubbish about allergies She got into allergy science after her father died from a reaction to a bee sting.
    “air pollution is a huge factor and GLOBAL WARMING is a factor
    I don’t know about here in the UK, but in the US we are having the worst pollen season *ever* and that is directly CLIMATE CHANGE”

    .. She can’t speak about “ever”, only recently recorded history
    She can’t assign that to Man Made Climate change ..pollen mass and makeup varies from year to year naturally
    Also when no one is in a forest, no one hears a tree fall
    When no one lives in a region, no one notices a peak pollen year.

    So I wound back. 6 minutes Theresa starts throwing around rubbish stats ..she seems a flaky science person.

    Presenter “The figures are quite shocking and on the rise YOU SAY right now 40% are allergic to at least 1 thing but it’s on the rise”
    “Yes they are expecting it to rise to about 50% in the next decade or so”
    (doh “or so” is a deceptive PR word like “upto” )
    “that means that 30-40% of people will have an allergy to at least one substance
    (hang on, what will it be 30, 40 or 50% ???)

    Presenter “And that rise it’s real, not due to better diagnoses etc. ? It’s a real phenomenon we are not just becoming more allergic ? ”

    Guest “CORRECT .. obviously we are getting better at spotting them which is a factor , but not the only factor”
    So her use of “correct” was wrong

    continues “just by looking at something as how many people end up in ER for a food allergy or asthmatic attack, we can tell that the allergies are rising”
    Nope that is the Fallacy Of All Other things remaining equal
    .. they are NOT equal you get more immigrants, more people living closer to hospitals, more awareness of allergies, longer lifespans etc.

    “There are many more prescriptions for epi-pens”
    Nope that does not prove higher incidence of asthma either

    “They’ve been on the rise for about 200 years
    SO their is nothing on the medical record that looks like an allergy since 1819 then in UK the literature spoke of Summer Catarrh

    Rubbish people recognised much earlier that some people had a reaction to pollen etc. and other didn’t
    Roman Emperor Claudius’s son, Brittanicus, who was so allergic to horses that the rash he developed would prevent him from seeing where he was going.

    She continues about 1819 “At that time factories were pumping out particulate matter all over the place”
    .. close contact to pollution was NOT new .. It impacts women cooking indoors over open rough fires and that had been happening for eons

    “We think what happened is that over the last 200 years your immune system had so much more types of things to deal with that they had never seen before”
    Hmm to some extent western bodies had not come across New World foods *
    “There is the hygiene hypothesis .. yes it could be reactions are clearer cos we are too clean so haven’t acquired resistance”
    “then all these new 85,000 CHEMICALS
    and air pollution is a huge factor and GLOBAL WARMING is a factor
    I don’t know about here in the UK, but in the US we are having the worst pollen season ever and that is directly CLIMATE CHANGE”

    No one in my family has any known allergies
    In my wider circle I know people who have asthma so carry epi-pens
    and one guy who is allergic to penicillin ..how would you know unless you had it ?

    * I don’t have a reaction to papya in processed food
    but if I eat a large amount it makes me throw up
    I only know that from being in Africa and Brazil
    600 years ago no westerner had a reaction to peanuts , cos no westerner had ever encountered them


    • StewGreen says:

      The woman seemed to be saying UNLESS we all go green and organic we’ll all end up with allergies

      Sure a lot of us will end up with arthritis
      but that’s probably cos we get to live long
      and heavy bodies due to abundance of cheap food.

      I see no evince of a US record year on pollen, just the city of Atlanta


    • StewGreen says:

      Minute 19 Theresa MacPhail is pushing a narrative that up until today air pollution is increasing

      The way she speaks indicates she doesn’t understand real world science
      Air pollution that counts is air pollution you breathe, so it’s not just what happens on a road.
      And it depends on the size and the toxicity.
      Most of the pollution you breathe comes from indoor sources
      eg anti-perspirant etc., cooking over an indoor fire etc.
      And anyways road pollution is a fraction of what it used to be

      So she says India has more pollution cos it’s more industrialised
      Sure Delhi road pollution is bad
      However that doesn’t mean citizens input is worse than ever.
      eg most people are cooking on gas , not over dung fires

      BTW she has previously admitted she was very wrong about Covid ..and has deleted some of her Covid tweets
      .. https://twitter.com/ashauter/status/1240679687493283840


  40. AsISeeIt says:

    Not the Nine O’Clock News was a well-received 1980s sketch show brought to us by a previous incarnation of the BBC

    Not the news as we’d like to report it – tends to be a suitable mantra for the present BBC regime

    BBC: Ukraine war: Russia says it thwarted major Ukrainian offensive… Russia’s claim has not been independently verified.

    ‘Not independently verified’ and the proximate BBC construction ‘Kiev hasn’t responded’ are fast becoming the current ‘despite Brexit’


    • MarkyMark says:

      How Ghetto Kids lose Britain’s Got Talent final afta ogbonge performances

      Ugandan dance troupe Ghetto Kids miss out on di top three slots for di last stage of Britain’s Got Talent competition on Sunday.

      Dem thank fans for dia “unwavering support through out di competition” afta dem lose di price to Viggo Venn, one Norwegian clown and comedic dancer wey win on majority votes.

      Di group of six children wey dey between di age of six and thirteen years old bin get one smooth run through dis year edition of di highly contested competition till dem reach di grand finale.

      Di finale wey hold on 4 June 2023 feature ogbonge acts from di last stages of di edition including Ghetto Kids, Malakai Bayoh, Duo Odyssey, Musa Motha, Amy Lou, Viggo Venn, Olivia Lynes, Travis George, Cillian O’Connor, Lillianna Clifton.


    • MarkyMark says:

      2,982 views 22 Jan 2014
      This is a short sketch from Not The Nine O’clock News, around 1980. Backing track courtesy of


  41. andyjsnape says:

    At last the government has the answer, errrrr

    Two new barges to house migrants announced

    1000 down, only 500,000 to find homes

    and don’t forget the other 500,000 due very soon!

    I’ve an idea, defend the borders?????????????????


    • MarkyMark says:

      UK Gov to buy boats from China – only £20 million each. Includes solar panels and a working nuclear reactor.


  42. vlad says:

    What a nauseating interview the BBC’s Amol Rajan did with creepy Schofield.

    Both of them oozing insincerity.

    The gay ‘community’ must be feeling proud to be Proud, as Pride month kicks off.



    • MarkyMark says:

      It is a mistake to regard the presenter’s horrific case as a one-off. It is a numbingly familiar tale of power and disbelief



      Spencer says Bashir originally told Diana that she was being watched by MI6 (the British equivalent of the CIA). But he had told Spencer it was the MI5 (the equivalent of the FBI). “I also felt, in this meeting, that I was listening to a man who was not telling the truth.11 Nov 2022


      • vlad says:

        Hopefully, damning evidence will emerge implicating the BBC and hastening its final demise.


  43. MarkyMark says:

    order-order.com comment …

    “‘Detected’ is the number that Border Force have ferried to our shores, it does not correspond to the number of ‘arrivals’.
    By that token, if we stop looking for boats in the Channel the number ‘detected’ would be nil, a sure way to ‘stop the boats’ without actually achieving anything.”



  44. MarkyMark says:





    Clive heads to the heart of southern Italy, where the sun shines brightest but foreign tourists are relatively few. Driving his red Fiat down the same roads as Daniel Craig’s Aston Martin, Clive discovers how the James Bond franchise helped turn an abandoned town into a world heritage site, finds out why
    Puglia is the gay holiday capital of Italy

    finds out why Puglia is the gay holiday capital of Italy

    finds out why Puglia is the gay holiday capital of Italy


  45. Demon says:

    Ofcom will not take action after Adjo Andoh’s terribly racist comment about the colour of the Royal Family, despite receiving over 8000 complaints.

    If it was the other way round Ofcom would be prosecuting the case with the utmost vigour. Why doesn’t their inaction surprise me.


  46. MarkyMark says: