463 Responses to Midweek 15th November 2023

  1. Up2snuff says:

    Defund the BBC.

    Reasons to do so:
    – The BBC are far left wing Liberals
    – They are on the side of terrorists, they believe everything Hamas tells them
    – They are anti-Brexit
    – They do not have the best interests of the UK at heart
    – They are biased over things like Global Warming and Climate Change
    – They cannot control their staff or their budgets or their web-site
    – The Licence Fee is outdated
    – The Licence Fee is not longer a Licence Fee it is a major item of expenditure, a major tax
    – The BBC are politically active and are not impartial
    – The BBC cannot control their staff
    – The BBC are overpaid at presenter and executive levels
    – Make the BBC just over by cancelling your TVL

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  2. G.W.F. says:

    Israeli lampoon of the BBC Worth watching to the end

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  3. pugnazious says:

    If you were looking at the videos from saturday and then looking at the media reports you might have felt there was a bit of a disjunct thereā€¦.what you were seeing was not what was being reportedā€¦.there was shouting and some shoving but not a riot nor extreme violenceā€¦.as far as I have seen.

    We were told the Far-Right had descended en masse to the Cenotaph and were battling the police using ā€˜extreme violenceā€™ā€¦have to say I didnā€™t see any of thatā€¦.what I did see was the police pushing, shoving, punching and using batonsā€¦their normal modus operandi to get people to move onā€¦if youā€™ve been to football matches. The extreme violence was coming from the policeā€¦it would seemā€¦..other than that used by the Palestinian protestors who were firing fireworks directly at the policeā€¦.injuring severalā€¦but the BBC merely reported this as ā€˜fireworks being let offā€™.

    People who attended the Cenotaph ceremony confirmed much of thisā€¦they saw no ā€˜extreme violenceā€™, no battles, no riotsā€¦.maybe there was someone somewhere doing something but it wasnā€™t then or there.

    The reporting, and the policeā€™s own comments, were designed and shaped to take down Bravermanā€¦and they succeededā€¦once again an elected politician falls to the undemocratic forces of the media.

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  4. vlad says:

    “Do the anti-Israel protests show that Britain has already fallen to Islamism? PART 1: THE POLICE”

    Answer: YES.

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  5. Terminal Moraine says:

    Another week, another global crisis with a depressingly familiar solution. Two members of the Israeli Knesset write in a WSJ op-ed: ā€œThe West Should Welcome Gaza Refugees.ā€

    ā€œAs the war continues ā€¦ UN resolutions are doing nothing tangible to help Gazaā€™s residents. It is imperative that the international community explore potential solutions to help civilians caught in the crisis [ā€¦] Global organizations with experience settling refugees should facilitate the relocation of Gaza residents who wish to move to countries willing to accept them. We simply need a handful of the worldā€™s nations to share the responsibility of hosting Gazan residents.ā€œ

    They’re not shy in calling for certain organisations to step in; organisations that have far more prior experience unsettling European host countries than actually settling refugees. But this was always on the cards… not so much ā€˜stop the boatsā€™ as ā€˜start the planesā€™.

    Will Cameronā€™s previous on the international stage be of particular use right now because heā€™ll have the right sort of accommodating spirit the UNHCR like?

    https://www.jewishpress.com/news/eye-on-palestine/gaza/wsj-op-ed-likud-yesh-atid-mks-advocate-gazans-voluntary-emigration/2023/11/14/

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    • kingkp says:

      https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/great-reset/trilateral-commission-2023-is-year-1-of-new-world-order/
      All part of the script. Israel is going to establish a greater Israel after ethnically cleansing the Palestinians. Most people in the West are on board with this. Those Palestinians not liquidated will be relocated to Europe and the UK. The dummies will of course be perfectly fine with this. After all, thinking isn’t their strong point. Karma is a b*tch, so don’t complain when you own nothing and become a Palestinian. You deserve everything coming to you. In spades.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      TM, the West welcoming Gazan refugees. Hmmmn. Rwanda, they say is quite nice at this time of year. You have to think of the Global Warming and Climate Change aspects, of course, šŸ˜‰ and if Gazan refugees go north to the US or Canada or UK or Norway, they will want to be heated to Mediterranean levels at least. All that CO2, that is a bit of a no-no.

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  6. Square-Eyed says:

    “This [the weakening of certainty about knowing the objective, external world] is parallel to a change among the news makers. As their concept of truth becomes more relative, the ideal of objectivity in the news columns in contrast to the editorial pages is increasingly diminished. Thus, the loss of a philosophic base for truth and the certainty of knowing has the practical result of making for a sociological science and a sociological news medium – both available for use by manipulators. And this is especially potent with science because of the almost “religious” belief which people have developed about the objectivity – and thus the certainty – of the results of science. – Francis A Schaeffer, “How Should We Then Live? The Rise and Decline of Western Thought and Culture”, p 200

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  7. G.W.F. says:

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  8. Nibor says:

    Ever get the impression that the Powers That Be are not on your side ?
    The senior civil serpents have a wide boy attitude to your concerns ?

    Well you`re right and not alone . In a supposed democracy , there are far too many Nomenklatura and Clerisy who stymie the will of the people because that makes them feel a cut above everyone . After all , who wants to be nothing but a member of the general public .?
    In the nineties the senior civil service was infested by the stereotypical Sir Humphries as portrayed in Yes Minister , the satirical show broadcast by the BBC before it became even more blatantly liberal/left globalist .
    These mandarins would declare that what they were doing was in the interests of the nation , government or minister . which was a lie . They were acting in the interests of themselves and themselves only .
    Now there`s a new dimension as the older self serving ones are retiring and the newer ones are reaching the higher echelons . These are the Gramscian types wedded to international Marxism – although Marxism with a twist . Its not the world for the workers , its the world for them and their ilk to rule over all as They Know Better , even if they`ve never done a normal days job in their lives . Cameron and Blair are the stereotype .

    The answer to the anti democracy of the above is to smash the two party – three party – system we have here and abolish the BBC . Then aim for real democracy in which Populism is not a dirty word .

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  9. taffman says:

    “Wales’ 20mph speed limit: Who is Lee Waters”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-67122709

    “Wales 20mph: Labour MP backs law after ‘bonkers’ comment”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-67418256
    Englashmen beware, their ideas are coming your way !
    taffmen think that both those guys are “Bonkes” !

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    • Zephir says:

      20 mph speed limit, little to do with safety, more likely preparing us for robot driven cars and delivery vehicles and desperately getting us to prefer cycling

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    • G says:

      Me? I’d like to contact all the > 460,000 who signed the petition and ask them to contribute Ā£1 each to engage a Constitutional Lawyer to deep dive the law and what led up to it and decide whether a legal challenge should be made. Almost a half a million would more than cover it……………… Let’s call it, “Crowd Funding”

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  10. StewGreen says:

    The list of Saturday arrests from the Met Police page ..just 11
    It actually seems so small. Surely in a city there’s way more people charged on a normal Saturday.

    First 7 all traditional British sounding names
    Wow the police saved the public from someone who was “drunk & disorderly”

    John Harvey Criminal Damage
    Ethan Stapely resisting arrest
    Taylor Warne possession of class A drugs.
    James Buckley/ Sam Fairclough possession of an offensive weapons
    William Duncan drunk & disorderly
    Karl Jordan assault on an emergency worker

    Then another 4 were added and people chose not to tweet them

    Mark Austen, 58, : assault of an emergency worker x3 .. Court on Monday 13

    Ryan Ramadan, 25, : possession of a knife Court on Monday 13th

    Raheem Ahmed, 21, :assault of an emergency worker and possession of a knife.

    Grigore Flutar, 41, : racially aggravated assault.

    I wonder how the firework injured policeman is
    I expect there was a lot of underreported violence on the Hate Israel march
    However no on died ..and in such marches in India Pakistan , they do get deaths everytime they have a march
    In fact someone must have died of natural causes cos if it was really 300,000 then some people should have randomly had a heart attack or stroke anyway

    (Maths : If you have 365,000 people , each year 3,650 should die
    that means 10 die on a normal day.
    Obviously half of the 10 wouldn’t be fit enough for a march at the start of the day.)

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    • StewGreen says:

      Oh there is the viral video of the blue tabard cop going over to a guy who’s already being held down by two officers , and then kicking him 3 times.
      ================

      Monday “Westminster Magistrates Court as John Harvey, 75, and Ethan Stapely, 23, are due to appear where they are charged with criminal damage and resisting arrest ”
      That guy was 75 !

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  11. StewGreen says:

    @GBNEWS
    : Walsall Labourā€™s deputy leader has quit hours after being suspended for an ā€˜abhorrentā€™ Israel-Hitler post
    .. https://twitter.com/CDP1882/status/1724548167037796750

    Soon after his suspension last night, Hussain rapidly wrote a lengthy resignation letter claiming that the party was ā€œnot safe for anyone with Muslim beliefs.ā€
    He did not refer to his Netanyahu-Hitler post that led to his suspension.

    =====

    A different guy
    @FA have suspended council member Wasim Haq over a social media post.
    Haq claimed over the weekend that “Adolf Hitler would be proud of PM Benjamin Netanyahu” amid Israel’s ongoing military action in Gaza.
    The Lawn Tennis Association have also removed Haq from its council

    =======
    BTW isn’t smear labeling groups of white people “FAR RIGHT”
    ..actually a racist trope itself ?

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  12. StewGreen says:

    Trafalgar Square Saturday nigt : Titles of videos can be misleading. Like I don’t really see white people getting smashed up
    but the police have apologised for just standing around
    so that is weird
    .. https://twitter.com/metpoliceuk/status/1723736882620641482

    Here’s another from Martin Daubney’s feed (politician who seems on the people’s side)
    .. https://twitter.com/israel_advocacy/status/1723647558042468383

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  13. StewGreen says:

    The EXPERT that BBC children’s Newsround used in their anti-wite programme

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  14. JohnC says:

    Tanks and over a hundred soldiers have entered Al-Shifa- Eyewitness
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-middle-east-67423274

    This is by BBC reporter Rushdi Abu Alouf who lives in Gaza and all his family live in Gaza. All their reporters inside Gaza are locals because Hamas won’t allow anyone else. You can be absolutely sure Rushdi will not say anything against Hamas because he would disappear. Instead he just reports what Israel are doing to make it seem like they are the bad guys.

    Here he gives us an eyewitness report from ‘Khader Zaanoun’ inside the hospital. No idea who this man is – but you can be sure he is anti-Israeli and probably pro-Hamas.

    ‘Earlier, Khader had said that soldiers had “fired a smoke bomb that caused people to suffocate”.’

    The BBC put that in quotes very specifically because it’s basically a lie. It may have made them cough but it was used to hide the soldiers as they moved in. Nobody suffocated. This is one of their most dirty tricks in this conflict : giving us statements by the most biased people possible and wording them as fact with a disclaimer somewhere at the end.

    But the huge elephant in the room here which proves Rushdi’s bias is how he didn’t ask – or report – about the Hamas fighters in there. The BBC using his reports like this is ‘lies by omission’ on an epic scale.

    Here’s the key piont of this whole subject:
    ‘The US said it has intelligence backing Israel’s claim that Hamas has a command centre under Al-Shifa – Hamas denies this’

    Once again the BBC gives equal weight to the US Government and a terrorist group.

    The BIG story here should be that Hamas terrorists are using a hospital as human shields. The BBC are squirming like eels in a bucket again trying not to say it. It’s absolutely disgusting. There is no doubt whatsoever whose side they on here.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      JohnC, Rushdi Abalouf was born in Al-Shifa Hospital! So the BBC love to tell me.

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      The BBC don’t seem to ask why Israel feels it needs to surround a hospital. That is a use of valuable military resources. Why would it be necessary? The BBC simply cannot imagine.

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  15. JohnC says:

    Rishi Sunak plunged into fresh crisis by catastrophic new data just hours before Supreme Court ruling that risks sinking his premiership
    https://www.gbnews.com/politics/rishi-sunak-people-polling-rwanda-supreme-court

    The GB-News poll put the Tories at 19%. And as it is on the politcial Right, I expect a real world poll will be worse.

    It’s now clear that the only way the Tories have any chance at the next election is to get rid of Sunak and install a proper Conservative. And they need to do it quick.

    One thing you can be sure of is that the BBC will use every trick and lie they can to prevent it happening.

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  16. Zephir says:

    “Israel is investigating ‘several cases’ of sex attacks by Hamas terrorists during October 7 massacre including woman who was gang-raped then shot at festival

    Witnesses told Israeli police they saw instances of sexual violence on October 7.

    Police have been gathering evidence about allegations of sexual violence from witnesses, surveillance footage and the interrogations of Palestinians arrested since Hamas’ incursion into Israel last month.

    At a news conference, police shared testimony from a survivor of the attack at the Supernova music festival, who described seeing a woman gang-raped then shot.

    The witness, identified as ‘S’, said she witnessed a group of women being ‘taken to a specific place by armed men, wearing military uniforms’.

    ‘I understood they raped them,’ she said, also describing how she saw another woman raped and mutilated by several armed men, with one shooting her in the head during the act.

    ‘We have several statements from people from ZAKA who saw the bodies of women without pants or underwear,’ he said.

    ‘We took more than 1,000 statements and some of the victims cannot speak due to being in psychological and medical treatment,’ he said.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12748437/Israel-investigating-cases-sex-attacks-Hamas-terrorists-October-7-massacre-including-woman-gang-raped-shot-festival.html

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  17. Zephir says:

    “Appalling moment bus passenger declares ‘Only Jews eat at McDonald’s’ in violent rant at others onboard

    Tirade of abuse on Armistice Day when 300,000 took part in pro-Palestine.

    She continues to hurl insults at a second man saying ‘what, is it because I said something about Jews? Because I said free Palestine? Because I said I support Palestine?’.

    She continues to threaten to smash people’s phones and becomes more irate as she tells people to stop recording her. ”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12748743/Appalling-moment-bus-passenger-declares-Jews-eat-McDonalds.html

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    • JohnC says:

      The real-life face of ‘enrichment’. The kind all the policy-makers at the BBC never see as they drive their license-fee payer funded cars to their respectable neighbourhoods where the only Muslim’s they see are doctors from Pakistan or their own staff from middle-class families.

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  18. Zephir says:

    “An eyewitness who took the footage was at the centre of the ‘distressing anti-Semitic attack’.

    ‘It is not safe to be a Jew in London right now,’ she said. ‘We are experiencing everything that we were warned about as children. This weekend in London, Jewish homes have been graffitied, people had to be escorted by police whilst leaving Synagogue and posters have been waved that would have been proudly held up in 1930s Germany.

    ‘Each bus or train journey becomes increasingly intimidating, making us question if this is a place we can continue to call home. As the granddaughter of two Holocaust survivors, I am appalled, but sadly, not completely surprised, that this is something I have to face in my lifetime.

    ‘To my non-Jewish friends and colleagues – please understand that this is the reality for Jewish people right now. Please do not look away. Please do not stay silent. Please reach out to your Jewish friends, talk to them, listen to them.

    ‘And if and when you witness incidents like this – please, please, speak up. Because despite there being lots of other people on the bus, only one other person confronted her. “

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  19. Zephir says:

    “MailOnline has contacted Met Police for comment “………………

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  20. Zephir says:

    And, on the subject of our police…

    “‘I was doing what any other man would do’: Pensioner, 67, spared jail after running over teenager who was harassing and threatening his family says he feels vindicated by judge who saw how he’d been ‘let down’ by the police.

    The ordeal for retired mechanic Mr Ashton and his 72-year-old wife Maureen from Cheltenham, Gloucester, began in October 2021 when they heard some youths in a neighbour’s garden.

    When the couple asked them to go they were met with abuse and threats.

    Mr Ashton said: ‘Our elderly neighbour was in hospital and these youths were just vandalising the garden and throwing paint around. I told them to stop and pick up the mess they had made, but they ignored us. There was no reasoning with them.

    ‘I wasn’t aggressive but told them to clean up the mess. One of them just said he would kill me.’

    The couple thought the matter was over but days later the intimidation began when someone would knock at the front door of their smart Ā£300,000 semi-detached home and runaway.

    This continued for several weeks and eggs were thrown at their windows as well as milk.

    When Mr Ashton went outside, he saw the teenagers speeding away on scooters.

    Maureen, a semi-retired nurse, said they were living in fear of their lives as the intimidation continued.

    She said her husband began sleeping downstairs as he feared petrol would be poured through the letterbox.

    Their disabled adult son, who has Cerebral Palsy and Asperger’s Syndrome, was so upset that the couple had to find him alternative accommodation as he was unable to cope with the uncertainty of what was happening.

    Matters came to a head on the evening of October 11 when the couple feared someone was trying to kick in their front door.

    Mr Ashton said: ‘There was an almighty bang and it felt like the door was caving in. It was so loud that our neighbours heard.

    ‘By that time, I’d had enough and decided to fight back. I did not see why we should have to put up with the intimidation.

    ‘The youth probably thought it was fun, but it was having a terrible effect on us. We could not sleep and did not know what was coming next.’

    After he saw the youth fleeing on an e-scooter Michael got behind the wheel of his Audi A2 and went looking for the yob.

    After spotting the youth he mounted the pavement and knocked him off the scooter.

    The teen went under the front wheel of his car suffering a fractured foot and multiple bruising.

    As he stood over the teen, who cannot be named for legal reasons, he told him: ‘That’s for vandalising my house.’

    Mr Ashton said: ‘I had a dashcam on the car and it captured everything. The teenager was on the floor and someone who knew him came over and was very angry. I handed him the dash cam and told him to call the police.

    ‘Someone must have called the boy’s father as he turned up and smashed one of the car’s windows with a golf club”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12748757/Pensioner-67-spared-jail-knocking-teenage-boy-16-harassing-scooter-Audi-slams-police-letting-down.html

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Mr Ashton said: ā€˜Our elderly neighbour was in hospital and these youths were just vandalising the garden and throwing paint around. I told them to stop and pick up the mess they had made, but they ignored us. There was no reasoning with them.

      ā€˜I wasnā€™t aggressive but told them to clean up the mess. One of them just said he would kill me.ā€™

      The couple thought the matter was over but days later the intimidation began when someone would knock at the front door of their smart Ā£300,000 semi-detached home and runaway.

      This continued for several weeks and eggs were thrown at their windows as well as milk.

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  21. Zephir says:

    “Keir Starmer warns Labour frontbenchers they will be sacked if they vote for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza in SNP-led Commons vote tomorrow as leader tries to head off pro-Palestinian rebellion”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12748273/Keir-Starmer-Labour-frontbenchers-sacked-Gaza-Palestine-vote.html

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  22. tomo says:

    An old trope dusted off and wheeled out by the abysmal Zurcher.

    This is Reagan era BBC

    No support for Israel among US Democrats eh?

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  23. tomo says:

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    • JohnC says:

      Very interesting and he backs up everything I think myself.

      He mentions how Hamas put a bay in an oven and baked it alive. I hadn’t heard that so I checked:

      ‘Hamas killers ‘roasted babies in an oven’ during October 7 terror attack, Israeli first responder claims’
      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12703453/Hamas-killers-roasted-babies-oven.html

      If you watch first responder, it’s pretty clear he is not lying. And knowing what we do about what Hamas did, it’s absolutely believable.

      Of course the BBC have never mentioned this. It is useful example to check the Leftist liar fact-checkers.

      And of course all the usual suspects avoid it like the plague. Which means it’s true. They seem intent on only proving the claim that Hamas beheaded children to be false. I think their aim is to make us think Hamas abuse of children in general is false using the usual Leftist lie by omission.

      But for me, beheading is barbaric but not the worst by far. It’s quick. They all avoid the really horrific murders by burning which is slow and very, very painful.

      Which tells me they are more interested in protecting Hamas than admitting the awful things they did. And I absolutely include the BBC 100% in that. And one of the many reasons I find the Left to be such disgusting, ethically-barren hypocrites.

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      • atlas_shrugged says:

        Don’t mention the Christian girl lynched and put in a brick oven in pakistan.

        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-32828330

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        • JohnC says:

          ‘Sajjad Mesih and his wife Shama, who was pregnant, were killed last year after claims burnt pages of the Koran were found near their mud brick house.’

          Just your usual matter-of-fact description of what happened by the BBC. It would have been written very differently if it suited the agenda.

          There must be many such examples – just a quick browse put me onto this from last year. I don’t even remember seeing it:

          Jharkhand: Murdered India teen’s dreams snuffed out by stalker
          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-62720684

          A woman doused in petrol and burned alive.

          You have to get well down the story to discover it was a Muslim who burned a Hindu to death because she would not marry him and convert to Islam.

          ‘Ankita’s death has sparked protests by Hindu right-wing organisations who have alleged that Shahrukh, a Muslim, wanted to commit “love jihad” by converting the victim, a Hindu, to his religion.’

          Oh how the BBC hate right-wing Hindus. Even when they have to admit who did it, they have to embed it in that kind of rhetoric.

          I’m still mystified why the Left and the BBC try to protect evil and barbaric people if they are Muslims. Do they have no morals at all ?.

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      • Guest Who says:

        Currently I don’t ‘know’ much about the ground war.

        Sad to admit as much.

        Not so many engaging in ‘debate’ using ‘pretty sure’, ‘looks like’ etc like Donnison groupies.

        So my armchair assessments are limited, not least by having zero experience of combat, especially urban.

        First of all, I bear in mind what kicked all this off, and the proven activities briefed in. These were deliberate to provoke a response.

        Next, I continue to note the taking and failure to return hostages, such poor devils as remain.

        Then the sporadic bit ongoing launch of unguided missiles.

        More recently, as others have noted, it at best seems curious that the IDF is engaged in a pitch battle being drawn TOWARDS hospitals, from which it reported RPGs are fired in ambush.

        Now,’ reported’ by anyone these days is a turkey shoot… government, media, NGO… all utterly compromised by history and agenda.

        Once the whatever it is over, even then assessments will be tricky. I hope senior Israelis will not be tempted to embellish before checking, and the IDF dos not either.

        But then… who checks? Who is qualified?

        CSI Lammy, Abbott, Raisin Brane, Begum and Webbe? JonDon and JezBo on what it looks like? The UN? The Vile Team in combo with a Panodrama Investigative crew?

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  24. Fedup2 says:

    Toady
    Andrea Jenkins being interviewed by comrade Robinson – Andrea didnā€™t sound like the usual tame politician – she let sunak have it with both barrrels – Robinson almost sounded ā€˜taken aback ā€˜ at the honesty? Of Andrea in her support for HMS Braverman ā€¦ followed by a tame Tory peer – who I thought was as dead as heseltine – lord Howard – put forward by CCHQ as a wet no doubt ā€¦..

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  25. MarkyMark says:

    Chancellor acknowledges ‘still work to do’
    Chancellor Jeremy Hunt says the government has ā€œdeliveredā€ itā€™s ā€œnumber one pledgeā€ to halve inflation.

    ā€œPeople said it would be easyā€¦ that wasnā€™t the case. We took some very difficult decisions to control borrowing and debt and weā€™ve now delivered the pledge a month early.ā€

    Hunt acknowledges there’s ā€œstill work to doā€ to bring inflation down to the 2% target and says the government will support the Bank of England on difficult decisions it has to make on interest rates.

    He insists the government had played an ā€œimportant roleā€ in bringing down inflation, rejecting the suggestion it’s taking credit for action by the Bank of England. ā€œWe are responsible for the whole fiscal context,” he says.

    Hunt says the government can now move to focusing on ā€œthe long term growth of the economy.ā€ He says that’s why “next week will be an Autumn Statement for growth.ā€
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-67423724

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    ……………………

    Jeremy Hunt: everyone will be paying more tax after autumn

    Boris Johnson Accommodation for a private holiday for my partner and me, value Ā£15,000 Destination of visit: St Vincent and the Grenadines

    10,000
    Jeremy Hunt Ā£10,000 from Citigroup Centre for speaking at an event on 9 March 2021. Hours: 4 hrs. Fee paid direct to charity. (Charity not mentioned)

    5,822
    Nadhim Zahawi MP promises to repay the part of Ā£5,822.27 expenses claim for second home energy bills that relates to electricity for stables

    2,200
    MPs to get Ā£2,200 pay rise from April for ‘dramatically increased’ duties last year

    1,950
    Philip Hammond accepts Ā£2,000 watch from Saudi sheikh, despite ban on donating expensive gifts

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  26. tomo says:

    Meanwhile at Broadcasting House

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  27. AsISeeIt says:

    Suella rocks the small boats edition

    Our BBC likes to quote from a couple of the national headlines to provide a header to its online press line-up. A pithy double-whammy extraction serves to introduce the frontpages of the major dailies.

    But on the day following a first for Britain – a senior minister, a secretary of state no less, having resigned from cabinet over the issue of the government’s clandestine open border pro-mass-immigration policy – our BBC prefers to draw the audience focus toward the personal politics and away from the issues

    BBC: Newspaper headlines: ‘War is declared’ after Braverman ‘attack’ on PM

    That’s the Telegraph, or Torygraph, as one assumes the boys and girls nickname it over there at the BBC, taking a rare first place in the BBC line-up. The ‘attack’ on PM being borrowed from the headline: Braverman launches brutal attack on PM’s ‘betrayal’ of nation (Telegraph) – reference to the PM’s ‘betrayal’ of nation being of course rather too spicy for our BBC and too obviously begging the immigration question

    ‘Attack’ is the term borrowed from further down the BBC’s press pile where the Rishi lackey loyalist Daily Express (formerly United With The People of Ukraine – a conflict now so absent from our frontpages one might have guessed peace had been declared) instead splashes with local news: War is declared: Suella accuses Rishi of betraying the nation – again national betrayal is far too vindaloo-grade spicy for our BBC, which prefers to highlight the Bollywood-casting anti-rom-com nature of the Sunak-Suella bust-up. The one party to the row being the Braverman than the other, Gunga-Din on the hyper-migration issue.

    The left-leaning ‘i’ newspaper nearly goes there: Revenge served hot – poppadoms with that, Rishi?

    There’s no curry spice for flavour at the giveaway freebie corporate ad sheet the Metro – they go with a good old British condiment: Salty Suella – and some strange Canadian sport as their top story: Ice hockey death arrest

    So much for the Tory press handling of this Punch and Judy show.

    You can’t single out the BBC – all the explicitly left-leaners are left rather floundering for any line other than the personal and the Tory divisions. The old-Labour Mirror for instance dare not reference immigration – instead they put up a slogan just about worthy of an old protest placard in lieu of a news headline: Tories are revolting… Maybe they could try running the country for a bit instead… – the sub-header there from the Mirror getting rather dangerously close to our Suella’s bone of contention with the PM

    The tabloid Mirror doesn’t like the notion that our Nigel is counted among the nation’s celebs: Fans’ fury at Ant & Dec over Farage… Backlash as former UKIP chief enters I’m A Celeb – to somewhat misquote Darth Vader – leftist cancel culture being a force that remains strong with this one.

    A moment of light relief is provided by cartoonist Matt in the Telegraph who sketches a pair of kangeroos downunder: “Immigrants like Nigel Farage come over here and eat all our testicles”

    Not being a consumer of broadcast TV and innocent of the rules, Mr AsI asks – Is the winner of the I’m A Celebrity show judged on a strict ‘points based’ system?

    The formerly-patriotic, of late Keir Starmer-curious, liberal-oriented Times breaks character to fire off a remarkably conservative frontpage: Braverman: PM lied to me and betrayed Britain… Resignation letter condemns migration ‘failure’… Rebellion looms if court blocks Rwanda plan

    And to reference vintage US tv comedy – Rowan & Martin’s Laugh In: “Here, come de Judge!”

    The Guardian, inexplicably, goes missing in action from today’s BBC press review line-up – suffice to say they’ll be banging on about the foreign-bang-bang in Gaza hospitals and refighting our losing sanctions war against Russia: Israel-Hamas war live: Israeli military says it is carrying out operation inside Gazaā€™s al-Shifa hospital (top story Guardian online); Chelsea FC face new questions over how Roman Abramovich funded success (second top feature Guardian online)

    Oh, look over here… it’s the Gruan’s alter ego: Israeli forces enter Gazaā€™s main hospital (BBC); Secret $40m deal links Abramovich to Putin’s ‘walletsā€™ (BBC)

    The corporate globalist FT tends to ignore some aspects of our petty local politics – the big Braverman story garnering no more that a Briefing mention – instead they go with the US inflation, Gaza hospitals – taking their brief there from the UN (natch) and a sad lament that our anti-Russia sanctions have proved something of a rubber sword: Blow to Russia sanctions as allies admit almost none of its oil sells below $60 cap

       14 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      I think when the IDF want to show ā€˜journalists ā€˜ what Islamic Hamas was doing with those hospitals the likes of bowen will be busy topping up his tan ā€¦.

         13 likes

  28. tomo says:

    They are out there among us

       12 likes

  29. Sluff says:

    Inflation is down to 4.6%. Good news.

    So just wait for the BBC voxpops of the ā€˜prices are still going up for meā€™ variety.

    Most of the inflation decline is energy prices.
    Given the endless BBC coverage last year of people unable to heat their homes and photos of old people snuggled up in blankets to keep warm, may we expect a series of positive stories about how those same people are feeling now? Of course not.

    Foment discord at all times. Thatā€™s the agenda.

       22 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Sluff ā€¦ in fairness ā€¦ prices are still going up – but allegedly at not such a high rate – mind you the supermarkets are rolling in profits as they hike margins and play nectar / clubcard games ā€¦.

         13 likes

    • Sluff says:

      I hate to say I told you so. But hereā€™s Faisal Islamā€™s take, as per the BBC webshite.

      ā€˜Many households will not feel like household energy bills are falling much at alā€¦ā€¦ā€¦.
      ā€¦ā€¦ā€¦.food price inflation is still in double-digits, as my colleague Dearbail mentioned a little while ago.

      There are risks in global energy markets and in domestic inflationary pressures that could mean the path back to the Bank of England’s inflation target of 2% – which determines where interest rates are heading – could face still further bumps in the road.ā€™

      Yes, even a 2% drop in inflation doesnā€™t stop the BBC from maxing out on the doom and gloom

         15 likes

      • Sluff says:

        BBC 6 pm news update.

        The inflation story w as covered by the BBC fromā€¦ā€¦.a food bank!!!!!! FFS..

        But oh the irony. The food bank was in Wales.
        Which has a Labour devolved administration.
        Not mentioned of course by the BBC

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      • Sluff says:

        BBC 6 pm news update.

        The inflation story was covered by the BBC fromā€¦ā€¦.a food bank!!!!!! FFS..

        But oh the irony. The food bank was in Wales.
        Which has a Labour devolved administration.
        Not mentioned of course by the BBC

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  30. Flotsam says:

    “I was clear from day one that if you did not wish to leave the ECHR, the way to securely and swiftly deliver our Rwanda partnership would be to block off the ECHR, the HRA and any other obligations which inhibit our ability to remove those with no right to be in the UK.

    Our deal expressly referenced Your rejection of this path was not merely a betrayal of our agreement, but a betrayal of your promise to the nation that you would do ā€œwhatever it takesā€ to stop the boats.ā€˜notwithstanding clausesā€™ to that effect.”

    From Braverman’s letter

    Apparently , from Government sources, the Treasury wishes to keep net immigration high. PM Sunak is First Lord of The Treasury, so the policy which has not been debated or voted for has been in Sunak’s brief all along.

       22 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Toady had one of those ā€˜donā€™t give a toss ā€˜IOD types calling for more ā€˜overseas work visasā€™ so that he can make more money ā€¦he does nt have to compete for reducing services as populations soar in cities – complete with civil disorder ā€¦ sink the boats ā€¦. Send em back ā€¦

         11 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      The Rwanda deal is two way … we take in Rwanda migrants! HA HA HA HA HA!

      ………………

      The partnership with Rwanda is just one strand of the work the government is doing to tackle illegal migration. Last week the Prime Minister agreed a package with France which will see a new detention centre established in France as well as the deployment of more French personnel and enhanced technology to patrol beaches.

      ……………….

      Dover MP Natalie Elphicke told the Commons that the BBCā€™s ā€œshocking reportā€ contained the ā€œbreath-takingā€ disclosure of free French public bus services being used to ferry migrants from camps to Dunkirk beaches.

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-63229010

         4 likes

  31. tomo says:

    Enough internet for today…

    – although there’s a few politicians that could be candidates?

       11 likes

  32. Althepalerp says:

    From the BBC, Unbearable heatwave in Brazil.

    Records have been broken in areas including the city Rio de Janeiro – where temperatures felt as high as 52.5C.

    SO, what does felt actually mean? so not actually 52.5C then.

       17 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      JOn Donnison on Weather now? Or Toenails (yawn) read it in The Critic Magazine?

         5 likes

    • Ian Rushlow says:

      Maybe something along the lines of:
      ‘The engines of a jet, painted black and standing on the tarmac at Rio de Janeiro in the sunshine, briefly measured 52.5C for a few seconds at noon’?

      Hey, it works for measuring record temperatures (sic) at RAF Coningsby in Blighty.

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  33. atlas_shrugged says:

    Before arrangements can be made to protect our borders we need to exclude ‘enemies of the realm’ from the UK.

    This can conveniently done by refusing immigration judges re-entry to the UK after their 3-month holiday in the Seychelles – for example.

    If we can kick out Henry VII’s mum then why not serious enemies of the UK.

       13 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      ā€œA nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. (Boris Johnson)

      But it cannot survive treason from within.(Theresa May)

      An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. (Anjem Choudary)

      But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself.(Jeremy Corbyn)

      For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.ā€

      Marcus Tullius Cicero

         12 likes

      • tomo says:

        Unfortunately we don’t have rapid recourse to the sorts of remedy Cicero was likely thinking of…

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  34. Flotsam says:

    Lots of people who use and quote the Law will say “The Law is the Law”. It’s a complete fiction, the Law is interpreted and debated by the Judiciary every day. There’s been so much really badly drafted Law that the Courts drive a Coach and Horses through the Laws passed in Parliament. Judgements are often a matter of interpretation and opinion. I am aware of a Supreme Court Judgement on an obscure matter relating to Leasehold properties which basically overturns Law as clearly written in a Parliamentary Act. Yes, the Courts are deciding what the Law is, not Parliament or electorate.

    We are awaiting a Judgement from the Supreme Court. I won’t hold my breath. It will be decided on the beliefs and personal whims of Judges

       10 likes

    • tomo says:

      It’s too often the case that a piece of UK legislation is drafted (terribly), itemising the intent that MPs and peers vote on – but the stick and carrot are entirely MIA and having spent days X-referencing + looking for case law and trying to figure out how a parliamentary bill is going to compel/reward certain defined behaviours one discovers that the thing is almost entirely toothless / pointless ( unless you’re paid to commit crimes on the English language and are paid handsomely)

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  35. MarkyMark says:

    The BBC twisting the story to paint Israel in the worst possible light. This is beyond propaganda, it is demonstrably reporting incompetence driven by credulous BBC reporters ready to believe the worst of Israel.
    order-order.com
    …………………

    HA HA HA HA HA!

    ……………………
    BBC Parliament
    20 October 2023

    We have reviewed our use of on-screen captions during an Adjournment Debate at the House of Commons called ā€˜Trends in Excess Deathsā€™. There were concerns that the captions, which outlined the NHS guidance on vaccines for Covid-19 and other diseases, showed bias against Andrew Bridgen MP who was making a speech that challenged the Governmentā€™s position on the safety and efficacy of the Covid-19 vaccines. It is normal practice to provide accurate information and context to these debates on screen and in this case it was an important aspect of our coverage due to the nature of the assertions being made in relation to public health. However, we accept that there was a lack of consistency in our use of these captions and that the number posted during the speech was not proportionate, nor always relevant, which created the incorrect impression that there was an editorial approach in relation to the views expressed. We apologise for this and are reviewing the way we use captions during such proceedings.

    03/11/2023
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/helpandfeedback/corrections_clarifications

       13 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      So ā€¦. Who writes the captions ? Where is the accountability ? Even the captions show bias – and difficult for the BBC to defend when they are there to be recorded ā€¦

      ā€¦ and if they are not fair about parliamentary coverage – imagine ordinary news items ā€”ā€”

         9 likes

  36. Zephir says:

    Bbc… “mostly racist” ?

    “mostly terrorist” ?

    “Police launch hunt for 11 men who ‘wore Hamas-style headscarves, waved pro-terror signs and racially incited crowds’ during massive Palestine marches through London

    Met Police wishes to question 11 men seen in pro-Palestine marches in London”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12751521/police-launch-hunt-men-hamas-style-headscarves-pro-terror-signs-palestine-marches-london.html

       10 likes

  37. Non Snowflake says:

    Last night’s Yes Minister was the episode where Jim Hacker is trying to get more women into politics, in order to achieve “equality”. The episode ends with the woman who has been earmarked for promotion deciding to quit because she thinks her promotion would simply be a tickbox decision based on quotas, and it would be patronising.

    Very interesting.

    And I should mention another scene where 2 characters discuss unsuitable roles for women, one of them says “We certainly wouldn’t want to send her to a Muslim country”.

    Very interesting. It was filmed in 1982.

       17 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Non – I think – if I recall – she was leaving the civil service to join a bank .. maybe it was Nat West – where she could close the accounts of people she didnā€™t like and then boast to a BBC journalist about it at a ā€˜drinks party ā€˜ā€¦ā€¦

         12 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      Women in the Civil Service – Yes Minister – BBC comedy

      Positive Discrimination | Yes, Minister | BBC

         6 likes

  38. Zephir says:

    “Revealed: Pro-Palestine marcher who joined crowd that mobbed Michael Gove through London’s Victoria station is unmasked as hard-Left journalist, Jeremy Corbyn follower and son of top literary critic”

    “New Statesman columnist Oliver Eagleton pursued the Levelling Up Secretary through the rail station on Armistice Day as 300,000 pro-Palestine protesters marched through the capital.

    The 26-year-old has been revealed as a leader of the Gaza-backing mob that intimidated Mr Gove. When confronted by the Mail, he criticised those he said falsely claimed to back free speech and condemned ‘politicians enabling [Israel’s] genocidal war’

    He has also referred to the October 7 atrocities in Israel as the ‘Al-Aqsa Flood’, the name given to the attacks by Hamas.

    Mr Eagleton’s father Terry Eagleton is a Marxist academic and was a lecturer at the same Oxford college, Wadham, his son later attended. The academic, now an emeritus professor at Lancaster University, in 2007 published a book portraying Jesus as a Palestinian insurgent, The Times reported. ”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12751303/pro-palestine-marcher-mobbed-michael-gove-identity-jeremy-corbyn-follower-son-literary-critic.html

       13 likes

  39. taffman says:

    Who is running this country, our sovereign government or the ECHR ?
    Who is defending our borders our armed forces or the Border Farce ?
    You guessed it !
    Time to Get out of the ECHR.
    8 years of kicking the can down the road….
    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/prime-minister-pledges-to-control-and-reduce-immigration

    and he’s back …………..
    https://www.gov.uk/government/people/david-cameron

    Vote here next time
    https://www.reformparty.uk
    The real Reform.

       18 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      “New offence of illegal working so police can seize wages, making sure illegal working doesnā€™t pay

      https://www.gov.uk/government/news/prime-minister-pledges-to-control-and-reduce-immigration
      ………………….
      And weā€™re going to get far better at training our own people to fill these gaps from overseas.
      ………
      shut down more than 850 bogus colleges
      ….

      Prospects Hedd, the degree fraud service run by Jisc, has closed 85 websites selling degrees from fake UK universities
      https://www.prospects.ac.uk/prospects-press-office/85-bogus-uk-universities-shut-down

      Those shut down include Newcastle Business College, which was offering fake MBA and DBA degree qualifications. While claiming to enrol thousands of British students every year, it had no geographical basis in the UK and the telephone number went only to voicemail. Investigation showed it was run out of the Middle East.

         10 likes

      • tomo says:

        Seize wages?

        Cor Blimey – Constable Savage will just love it!

        That said, I’ve been reading ( and watching ) accounts of some American police seizing cash in an organised manner (while on duty) – holding up armoured cars even.

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  40. atlas_shrugged says:

    The legal system will always make work for itself.

    Mass inward migration = rising crime, homeless Brits, concreting of our country, overflowing jails etc etc

    All of this is good for unprincipled lawyers. Shakespeare was right.

       11 likes

  41. Fedup2 says:

    Surprise? The Blair Supreme Court votes down the blue labour government as usual – all those years of a huge majority wasted – they could have derogated from any treaty or law in order to deport invaders – but chose not too ā€¦ braverman is right – sunak / nut nut / May – failed us ā€¦.

    City and town life is going to get even worse as no one will stop thousands and thousands ā€¦.

       20 likes

    • taffman says:

      Time now for a British Government to put the people of Great Britain and Northern Ireland before the rest of the world.
      Get out of the EU and ECHR to get Northern Ireland back to the UK.
      A vote for the so called “Tories” is the end of Great Britain and more of the BBC.
      Your choice ………………………….

         21 likes

    • moggiemoo says:

      They didn’t ‘fail’ us, they ‘betrayed’ us. And continue to do so.

         9 likes

  42. Philip_2 says:

    BBC forced to correct misleading flood scare
    [Press Release]

    London, 15 November ā€“ YetĀ another complaintĀ has been upheld against the BBCā€™s coverage of weather and climate issues. Ā In May this year, the BBC weatherman Chris Fawkes claimed in a video after the Bologna floods in Italy that ā€œhalf the annual rainfall had fallen in 36 hoursā€.
    The claim was utterly baseless, and data collected since has confirmed that rainfall totals were much less.In upholding the complaint, the BBCā€™s Executive Complaints Unit apologised for theĀ lapse in editorial standards.Ā 
    Ā 
    Climate researcher Paul Homewood, who filed the complaint, commented: ā€œSadly this cavalier attitude to factual reporting is all too common in the BBCā€™s coverage of weather and climate matters.ā€
    Ā 
    The BBC has been repeatedly accused of institutional alarmism by Net Zero Watch and other observers. Reports have revealed that the BBC has been forced to correct more than a dozen false claims in climate and weather-related coverage after receiving public complaints in recent years.

    TALL STORIES FROM THE BBC
    https://netzerowatch.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c920274f2a364603849bbb505&id=e4106062cb&e=f0f2d33ad1

    INSTITUTIONAL ALARMISM: The BBC’s disatrous climate complaints (pdf)
    https://netzerowatch.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c920274f2a364603849bbb505&id=ac69d28636&e=f0f2d33ad1

    BBC UPHOLDS COMPLAINT:
    https://netzerowatch.us4.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c920274f2a364603849bbb505&id=ac69d28636&e=f0f2d33ad1

       14 likes

  43. G.W.F. says:

    Ha ha ha. Supreme court rules against Rwanda policy.
    BBC jubilant

       13 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      Do any European countries send asylum seekers to Rwanda?
      30 MARCH 2023

      https://fullfact.org/news/sir-jake-berry-asylum-seekers-rwanda/

      No European countries currently deport asylum seekers to Rwanda, as the UK government proposes. EU countries do fund a scheme that resettles asylum seekers from Libya to Rwanda for their own safety.

      ……………….

      If you’d travelled across the world to pursue a better life, would you move back in return for money?

      Germany is betting that the answer is yes.

      The country has long offered migrants and asylum seekers financial incentives to leave its shores, and until 28 February 2018 it’s prepared to pay out extra.

      Individuals will get ā‚¬1,000 and families up to ā‚¬3,000 (Ā£2,650; $3,540) to cover rent or resettlement costs back in their home countries – things like basic kitchen or bathroom facilities.

      Critics say Angela Merkel’s government is trying to bribe its way out of a tricky situation, but supporters say the scheme will help sad, exhausted migrants who just want to go home.
      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-42235232

      ………………

      EXCLUSIVE: Arsenal’s Visit Rwanda sponsorship and the dark side to a hideous sportswashing agenda
      Arsenal and Paris Saint-Germain both have multi-million sponsorship agreements with the Rwandan government but the actions of authoritarian president Paul Kagame and the arrest of Paul Rusesabagina have led to allegations of human rights abuses
      https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/arsenal-psg-visit-rwanda-sponsorship-26135818

      …..

      Rwanda votes to give President Paul Kagame right to rule until 2034
      This article is more than 7 years old
      EU and US condemn extended powers and say he should step down to ā€˜foster a new generation of leadersā€™
      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/20/rwanda-vote-gives-president-paul-kagame-extended-powers

         5 likes

  44. Zephir says:

    “Rishi Sunak’s Rwanda migrants plan is against the law, Supreme Court rules in unanimous 5-0 decision that is massive blow to PM after ousted Home Secretary Suella Braverman said he had no Plan B to stop the boats”

       13 likes

  45. taffman says:

    Question is “Rishi Washi” about to call a general election or about to resign ? Thus leaving an open door for old “Macaron”.

       16 likes

  46. MarkyMark says:

    ā€œAn apology from the BBCā€¦we said that medical teams and Arab speakers were being targeted. This was incorrect and misquoted a Reuters report.ā€

    misquoted a Reuters report.
    misquoted a Reuters report.
    misquoted a Reuters report.

    https://order-order.com/

    AND IF NO ONE HAD PICKED IT UP? IT WOULD BE THE CURRENT TRUTH!

       20 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      Toenails (yawn) using Reuters too?

         8 likes

      • Guest Who says:

        “Most dramatic of all has been the fall in the audience for Radio 4’s flagship programme, Today. In the first quarter of 2023 it registered only 5.76 million listeners, its smallest audience in almost 25 years.7 Jun 2023”

        https://x.com/BBCr4today/status/1724694414457532658?s=20
        “In terms of the level of destruction it was like Aleppo…”
        BBC International Editor Jeremy Bowen reflected on what he had seen in Gaza in the #R4Today debate with Mishal Husain.
        Israel-Gaza: What happens when the war ends?
        Listen on BBC Sounds.

        Scruffy Thommo class partial editor ‘reflects’ in ‘debate’ with ‘Not Enough Dead Jews’

        Tunnels will do that.

        13 comments in 4 hrs.

           8 likes

  47. MarkyMark says:

    Arab and Muslim leaders blame West for Gaza misery
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67417570

    Hypocrisy, double standards and a failure to understand the region. These are the charges being levelled at the West, primarily the US, by leaders of 57 Arab and Muslim countries who convened at the weekend in the Saudi capital Riyadh.

    …………………………….

    ā€˜Fired on like rainā€™: Saudi border guards accused of mass killings of Ethiopians
    Report by Human Rights Watch details alleged attacks using explosive weapons and small arms on Saudi Arabia-Yemen border

    https://www.theguardian.com/law/2023/aug/21/fired-on-like-rain-saudi-border-guards-accused-of-mass-killings-of-ethiopians

    ………………………………………….

    saudi_arabia.jpeg

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