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  1. Fedup2 says:
    November 22, 2023 at 3:27 pm

    Some Nazi from the SNP accused the new Home Sec ? Of describing some constituency in Scotland as a s hole – raising it as a ‘point of order ‘ – allegedly it was recorded on tape – home sec to resign ? Yawn ..

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  2. Zephir says:
    November 22, 2023 at 3:34 pm

    Here we go again……… with tens of thousands of them coming and going through the UK :

    “Mystery pneumonia tears through schools in China with ‘many, many hospitalized’ – in eerie echo of early days of Covid

    Hospitals in Beijing and Liaoning are ‘overwhelmed with sick children’
    Students and teachers have been struck down, with some classes canceled”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-12779783/child-pneumonia-outbreak-china-hospitals.html

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  3. Zephir says:
    November 22, 2023 at 3:37 pm

    One look at the owners tells you all you need to know:

    “The XL Bully fightback: Astonishing video shows owners and 62 dogs at huge meet-up as they bring their children in bid to prove animals facing a ban are ‘safe'”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12779455/american-bully-xl-dog-ban-protest-owners-meet-coventry.html

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  4. MarkyMark says:
    November 22, 2023 at 3:42 pm

    42c85f62-4bbb-4aff-b15a-100d5034d7aa-4d40b663-5074-439a-ac3e-3734a4bc1b27

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  5. tomo says:
    November 22, 2023 at 4:09 pm

    The BBC just love Lucas

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    • Thoughtful says:
      November 22, 2023 at 4:24 pm

      They tried that once before and it was such a catastrophic failure that the UK experienced the “Brain Drain” and other wealthy individuals including leftie actors and pop stars fled the country.

      Even the loonie leftie Beatles ran away and penned this little ditty to the Taxman not wishing to blame the Labour party where blame really belonged.

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    • MarkyMark says:
      November 22, 2023 at 4:25 pm

      Payments from Guardian News and Media Ltd, Kings Place, 90 York Way, London N1 9GU, for articles:
      7 November 2022, payment of £100 expected for an article written and published on 3 November 2022. Hours: approx. 2 hrs. (Registered 07 November 2022)
      Payment of £100 expected for an article written on 6 December 2022 and published the following day. Hours: approx. 2 hrs. (Registered 12 December 2022)
      12 May 2023, received £134.22 for an article. Hours: 2 hrs. (Registered 21 September 2023)
      27 July 2023, received £100 for an article. Hours: 2 hrs. (Registered 21 September 2023)
      Payment of £100 expected for an article written on 21 September 2023. Hours: 2 hrs. (Registered 21 September 2023)
      Payment of £321.25 expected for an article written on 27 September 2023. Hours: 2 hrs. (Registered 29 September 2023)
      Payments from the BBC, Broadcasting House, Portland Place, London W1A 1AA:
      25 January 2023, received £200 for appearing as a guest and panellist on Any Questions. Hours: approx. 12 hrs including preparation. (Registered 30 January 2023)
      28 March 2023, received £200 for appearing as a guest and panellist on Any Questions. Hours: approx. 12 hrs including preparation. (Registered 03 May 2023)

      https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/24910/caroline_lucas/brighton%2C_pavilion#register

      23 March 2011, I received payment of £300 from the BBC, PO Box 480, Manchester M14 0EL, for contributing to the programme ‘Great Lives’. Hours: 4-5 hrs. (Registered 13 April 2011)

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      • tomo says:
        November 22, 2023 at 4:46 pm

        MarkyMark – iirc

        Caroline and chums hauled a pretty substantial amount of money from their MEP antics and favoured / cultivated minority party status at Brussels / Strasbourg – I read up on it a few years ago and it left me fuming…

        Euro Millions…

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        • Scroblene says:
          November 22, 2023 at 6:41 pm

          Of course they are!

          Even Greenies are able to spot a money tree when it suits them!

          That lot have made millions out of stupid government subsidies, taxes, useful idiots like Mare Khan etc.

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    • tomo says:
      November 22, 2023 at 5:10 pm

      In the USA the grasping bureaucrats are trying to directly tax unrealised gains in asset value.

      So, theoretically, if your house increases in value they want a proportion of any valuation increase immediately – not just when you sell it.

      Unsurprisingly – no comment about assets that lose value due to government antics even…

      2nd Amendment stuff will undoubtedly be in play…

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  6. tomo says:
    November 22, 2023 at 4:10 pm

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  7. Flotsam says:
    November 22, 2023 at 4:27 pm

    PMQ’s today. The SNP HOC leader, Stephen Flynn yet again asked about Gaza and ceasefire. I guess Mr Flynn is obeying his orders from Moslem leader, Humza Yousaf by making points about Gaza, it also distracts from the appalling SNP regime in Scotland

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  8. Thoughtful says:
    November 22, 2023 at 4:51 pm

    Lets have a look at the tolerance and diversity, and the love which Islam has for homosexuality at a pro Palestinian parade in London recently, and as far as I know has not been reported on.

    From the River to the Sea, let’s destroy the BBC !

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  9. Zephir says:
    November 22, 2023 at 5:11 pm

    Update on this racist twat actress:

    “Sarandon stoked outrage by claiming at a pro-Palestine protest on November 17 that frightened Jews ‘are getting a taste of how it feels to be Muslim in America'”

    “Among those who clapped back at Sarandon is Asra Nomani, a Pakistani refugee who responded to Sarandon on Twitter with a list of the freedoms she and her parents enjoy in the US.
    United Talent Agency cut ties with Sarandon yesterday.

    Sharing a photo of herself with her parents, Nomani said: ‘Hi there Susan Sarandon, this is my mom, my dad and me on the rail trail in Morgantown, West by God Virginia. Let me tell you what it means to be Muslim in America.

    ‘My dad didn’t have to become a second-class indentured servant to one of the many tyrants of Muslim countries that use immigrants from India, like my family, as essential slaves…my dad got a job as an assistant professor of nutrition.

    ‘He got rejected first for tenure but being Muslim in America meant he got a right like everybody got — his right to appeal and guess what? He won and he became a full professor.

    ‘My mom? Being Muslim in America meant she got to live FREE with the wind in her hair, like Masih Alinejad fights for women in the Muslim nation of Iran to be able to enjoy.’

    She went on to describe how she was able to give birth safely and freely to a baby out of wedlock in America – something that would have led to her death in some Muslim countries. ”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12780483/Susan-Sarandon-seen-New-York-City-dumped-talent-agents-saying-frightened-Jews-getting-taste-feels-Muslim-America-amid-Israel-Hamas-war.html

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  10. Guest Who says:
    November 22, 2023 at 5:30 pm

    CNN… BBC TNI partner?

    https://x.com/amanpour/status/1727343309486542926?s=20
    “The worst ever.” Those are the stark words of
    @UNReliefChief Martin Griffiths, about the death and destruction in Gaza. Having worked in the field for decades, he adds “I don’t say that lightly.” Watch our full conversation.

    Worst excuse for media evva?

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  11. Fedup2 says:
    November 22, 2023 at 5:36 pm

    An apology – in an earlier post I said that the new Home Secretary had described a place in Scotland as a s hole – in a parliamentary debate . I wish to rectify the record – it seems he called ‘Stockton ‘ a s—-hole … I’m sorry if I have caused unnecessary distress to people of a Scots’ heritage ….

    Being a southerner – my first experience of Hull at an away game was the same description – I’d never seen an off licence equipped with armoured windows and slits on the counter from which to collect booze protected by grilles …

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    • Guest Who says:
      November 22, 2023 at 5:46 pm

      What was that earlier about ‘tucked away’?

      “16:31
      What we know about the hostages in Gaza
      By Emma Pengelly and Jamie Ryan, BBC Verify

      Neither Israel nor Hamas has provided an official list of those hostages being held in Gaza.
      The Israeli authorities have notified some of the relatives of those being held, while others who believe friends or family members are among the hostages have not been officially informed.
      BBC Verify has been able to identify more than 200 of those taken on 7 October by analysing Hamas-affiliated channels, social media posts from family members of those taken, reports in international media and by speaking to relatives directly.
      Thirty-nine of the hostages identified are 18 years old or younger. A baby boy called Kfir Bib, who is less than a year old, is believed to be the youngest.
      We also have the names of 56 female hostages aged 19 or over. The oldest is an 85-year-old grandmother called Yafa Adar.The deal reached between Israel and Hamas is expected to see the release of 50 women and children held in Gaza.
      In return, 150 Palestinian women and children held in Israeli jails are to be freed. A four-day pause in fighting has also been agreed to allow humanitarian aid into Gaza.
      You can read stories of some of the hostages here.

      So, three to one? And why were these Palestinians in jail? Errant paragliding?

      And, Champion… not a ceasefire. Plenty more death to conduct with 150+ hostages still held.

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      • Guest Who says:
        November 22, 2023 at 5:51 pm

        Seasoned reporters.

        https://muckrack.com/emmapengelly
        https://muckrack.com/jamie-ryan

        Looking at the articles, mostly based on press releases.

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      • Docmarooned says:
        November 22, 2023 at 5:54 pm

        I note the source of the information is hardly impartial ie Hamas figures, social media etc. Hardly trustworthy sources. Still its BBC verify so must be true. Wonder how much it cost to dig all that out. I guess anyone with time and a laptop could find the same on google.

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        • Guest Who says:
          November 22, 2023 at 5:58 pm

          There is a follow up from a staffer on the ground.

          Hope and anger as southern Gaza receives news of truce
          Adnan al-Bursh

          BBC Arabic, reporting from Gaza
          Jabaliya refugee camp in northern Gaza
          Firas al-AjramiCopyright: Firas al-Ajrami
          The Jabaliya refugee camp in northern Gaza has been one of the areas heavily hit by Israeli bombardment
          Mixed emotions can be felt here in the south of Gaza as residents receive the news of the temporary ceasefire deal that has been reached between Hamas and the Israeli army.

          Initial feelings of relief and optimism were dampened by anger. The conditions of the truce prevent those who have fled from the northern parts of the Gaza Strip from returning to their homes to check on them.

          “What is the point of this agreement if we are not able to go back to the north to find out what happened to our homes and residential areas?” They tell me, visibly frustrated and heart-broken.

          Hundreds of thousands of people have fled to the south since the beginning of the war. Many of them want to move back to their homes and to also support their neighbours and friends, some of whom have lost the majority of their family members.

          Meanwhile, continuous heavy bombardment has been felt across the Gaza Strip since last night. The Hamas-run government has announced that some 200 people have been killed in continuous airstrikes over the past 24 hours.

          People here are exhausted and completely devastated after living through 46 days of non-stop fighting and intense bombardment.

          However, a glimmer of hope has emerged after the ceasefire was announced, and people hope that this short-term agreement could be extended to deliver a longer lasting truce.

          Adnan not so worried about the hostages then? Rather whether the milk got cancelled.

          The BBC just keeps on digging that hole….

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    • Loobyloo says:
      November 22, 2023 at 9:44 pm

      Stockton on Tees? Then it’s true, for the most part. It’s also one of the highest populations of migrants/asylum seekers.

      Admission – I grew up near there but haven’t been there for a long time

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  12. tomo says:
    November 22, 2023 at 5:36 pm

    Tax in disguise

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  13. Up2snuff says:
    November 22, 2023 at 5:51 pm

    TWatO Watch #1 – where is Mishal and her proportionality when you need her?

    Sarah, slightly obsessed with rubbishing the Chancellor’s tax because Hunt has not given her anything off her high tax levels (do I correctly recall that the Montacutie was caught by HMRC a while back for some tax evasion?) mentioned that there was no news on the release of hostages by Hamas terrorists.

    It would appear that Hamas are getting the best of the deal, 50 hostages in exchange for 150 Palestinian women and children from prison in Israel where they may have been sentenced for killing Israelis. It turns out the Palestinian ‘children’ may be teenagers (age not verified – deliberately? – by the BBC) and no doubt if teenagers and males a uniform and weapons will be supplied so they can join the fight against the IDF.

    See what I mean about Mishal and her proportionality?

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  14. Lucy Pevensey says:
    November 22, 2023 at 7:02 pm

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  15. tomo says:
    November 22, 2023 at 7:06 pm

    NOT LIKEY !!!

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  16. JohnC says:
    November 22, 2023 at 7:16 pm

    Vehicle explodes on bridge between US and Canada
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67502406

    The BBC play this one right down and just say a car exploded on a bridge.

    Elsewhere I see:

    ‘Joint terror task force investigating
    A joint terrorism task force (JTTF) is investigating the incident, the New York governor said.

    “At my direction, New York State Police is actively working with the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force to monitor all points of entry to New York,” Kathy Hochul said. ‘

    Oh dear. Seems like a terrorist plot from Canada to attack New York on Thanksgiving. I’ll assume by the BBC’s omission of any description of a possible terrorist link that they weren’t far-right.

    The plan will be to get most people aware of the story and unlikely to read it again before they edit it to include the truth.

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  17. Dickie says:
    November 22, 2023 at 7:24 pm

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  18. tomo says:
    November 22, 2023 at 7:38 pm

    Wales …

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    • taffman says:
      November 22, 2023 at 7:47 pm

      Scrap the “Senedd” ! Many, many taffmen are calling for it. Some think its a dictatorship.

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  19. taffman says:
    November 22, 2023 at 7:50 pm

    Question : Does the BBC cover Net Migration figures ? Does it report them ?

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    • taffman says:
      November 23, 2023 at 9:33 am

      Perhaps they will announce them today ?
      I think they will be “eyewatering ” for the present useless government and the majority of us living in Great Britain .

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    • MarkyMark says:
      November 23, 2023 at 9:50 am

      Bradford Population … 536,986 (2019)

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  20. tomo says:
    November 22, 2023 at 8:13 pm

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  22. Fedup2 says:
    November 22, 2023 at 8:40 pm

    At least 2 drown in the channel …. Maybe …

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  23. Fedup2 says:
    November 22, 2023 at 9:22 pm

    Seems the FA is to stop lighting the Wembley arch for various reasons . Let’s hope it is the retreat from the various tickbox stuff going on in recent times – only the poppy should still be remembered – everything else – including kneeling and 1 minute silence should be gone …

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  24. Philip_2 says:
    November 22, 2023 at 9:27 pm

    In the Telegraph letters page. A complaint to the DT editor from the BBC itself from its pensions dept…

    BBC’s pension plan

    SIR – Your report, “BBC crisis over £1.7bn pension bill for stars”, (November 4), is incorrect and significantly inflates the BBC’s obligation to fund its defined benefit pension scheme shortfall and employer contribution rate.

    The BBC’s annual report and accounts of 2022-2023 state that the most recent triennial actuarial valuation of the scheme – on April 1 2022 – shows a funding shortfall of £841 million in total. The valuation is required by law and the figure is assessed independently by a pension specialist, and has also been reviewed by the National Audit Office… (edited)

    …The defined benefit pension scheme was closed to the BBC’s new joiners in 2010. We are awaiting a hearing at the Court of Appeal to clarify what options are available to us for the future of the scheme.

    Leigh Tavaziva
    BBC – Group chief operating officer

    Seems the BBC is in pension deficit (still).
    https://twitter.com/jacksurfleet/status/1720559820766355471

    BBC will deny anything and everything. Especially if its true.
    After all they have to pay the *STAR* at the BBC. Even if they are ‘tarnished’ they still have value – Gary Lineker is a BBC *star* and as you know, paid peanuts. That’s why the BBC is still in debt.

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    • Fedup2 says:
      November 22, 2023 at 9:40 pm

      Only an £841 million shortfall – royalties from top gear will pay for that ….

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    • Flotsam says:
      November 22, 2023 at 10:18 pm

      What must be remembered about the pension shortfall is that making contributions will have to come out of licence fees and other current income. This money will therefore not be available to make program, pay ‘stars’ etc. In effect the shortfall will be dead money. The licence fee may well have to be increased to cover it.

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  25. Flotsam says:
    November 22, 2023 at 10:36 pm

    Two asylum seekers die off the French coast. Looking at wind conditions today I’m not surprised. Wind West or South West around 20 knots (23mph), 60 people in a small rubber boat is a suicide mission, incredibly stupid. If the rest of the boatload hadn’t been rescued they would probably all have died. I thought we were paying the French for this nonsense to be stopped.

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  26. Loobyloo says:
    November 22, 2023 at 10:38 pm

    Clear evidence of Bias. Compare this article

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/11/22/north-sea-oil-refinery-grangemouth-jim-ratcliffe-starmer/
    Where the closure of the Grangemouth refinery is clearly blamed on increasing costs and an expected labour govt shutting down oil and gas production.

    To this:
    Grangemouth oil refinery could cease operations by 2025 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-67497023
    Prospective labour govt never mentioned.
    Scandalous.

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  27. Eddy Booth says:
    November 22, 2023 at 10:48 pm

    F9C4p.jpg

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    • andyjsnape says:
      November 23, 2023 at 7:06 am

      Tearful image Tommy

      Thinking of my grandad who passed away in 2020, who fought against Rommel in WWII, for it all to be given away to the spongers worldwide. And the word racist thrown at people who actually love their country

      So glad I probably wont see the next 20years and how the once Great Britain will be overtaken

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    • MarkyMark says:
      November 23, 2023 at 8:59 am

      Just a misunderstanding … This-suspect-in-the-killi-010.jpg?width=300&quality=45&auto=format&fit=max&dpr=2&s=640495598e891cd33c541a473ff801c6

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    • G says:
      November 24, 2023 at 9:23 am

      Eddy.

      Missing a caption to the image?

      ‘Would you, dear fellow Brit, go to war to defend this lot?’

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  28. Zephir says:
    November 23, 2023 at 5:06 am

    I would never bother watching this but the headlines from it are interesting, everyone thought Farage would fare not well due to political prejudice, but this fat nonentity gobshite has emerged as the ignorant aggressive twat: (twice now)

    “I’m A Celeb viewers slam ‘ignorant and uneducated’ Nella Rose for claiming black people don’t like Nigel Farage in furious Brexit debate: ‘It’s a conversation not an interrogation!’

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12781709/Im-Celeb-viewers-slam-ignorant-Nella-Rose-Nigel-Farage-furious-Brexit-debate.html

    “Less than two episodes in and Ms Rose has gone from TikTok sensation, with one million followers, to being declared ‘cancelled’ by her own fanbase following a bizarre outburst at her fellow campmate Fred Sirieix.

    On Monday night in the camp the First Dates host, 51, was explaining his eye-sight was bad and lightheartedly joked it was because he was old enough to be her father.

    The following morning she attacked him and said: ‘You turned around to me with an attitude and said, ‘You know I could be your dad, right?’ I don’t care how you said it to me, it’s disrespectful and I don’t want to talk to you. I don’t want to be around you.’

    Visibly upset, the Maitre’d said: ‘If I made a faux pas, unwillingly, unconsciously, I am sorry. That’s all it was. I only said that in a way because I am older than you, I am 51 and you’re 26.’

    She then fired back that he was ‘little girling’ her and accepted his apology but refused to eat any food he cooked or speak to him for the rest of the time there, ‘We’re not friends,’ she said.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12780225/Im-Celebs-Nella-Rose-CANCELLED-Dadgate-Fred-Sireux.html?ico=related-replace

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    • markh says:
      November 23, 2023 at 9:33 am

      Zephir- not that I give a damn, but hopefully the viewing public will nominate her to do every trial going until they get tired of her rabid squealing. Ridiculous woman.

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  29. Zephir says:
    November 23, 2023 at 5:55 am

    more and more hate crimes from the Pro-Palestine supporters on Armistice Day are being realized as pictures and videos begin to get posted online.

    Pro-Palestine supporters who protested on Armistice Day are now being searched for by police for various hate crimes.

    Some Pro-Palestine supporters were dressed as Hamas Terrorists.

    Other Pro-Palestine supporters were waving racist placards, including the Jewish Star of David as a Nazi Swastika.

    Another Pro-Palestine supporter displayed a placard showing a “Jewish snake” strangling the world.

    Another Pro-Palestine supporter displayed a placard racially attacking ethnic minority politicians (calling them “coconuts”).

    I’m sure more will be discovered over the approaching hours and days.

    Some Pro-Palestine supporters even decided to use Armistice Day to target Jewish families outside synagogues, with reports of police having to escort Jewish families in groups for their own protection and safety.

    Social media footage showed protesters spraying green smoke, waving Palestinian flags and shouting from cars in north-west London

    We’ve recently seen Gaza Palestinians commit the biggest mass murder of Jews since the Holocaust. Less than 24 hours later, Pro-Palestine supporters were on the streets celebrating and shouting “Free Palestine” (before any Israeli retaliation).

    Pro-Palestine supporters in France are marking Jewish homes with the Star of David to highlight where Jews are, similar to the Nazis in 1930s Germany.

    Pro-Palestine supporters in Russia have violently attacked an airport following the landing of an aircraft from Israel, literally hunting for Jews to attack.

    Pro-Palestine supporters in Britain are cruelly soaking mice in spray paint and throwing them into restaurants in order to damage businesses they think support Israel.

    Pro-Palestine supporters have been tearing down posters of missing Jewish children kidnapped by Hamas.

    Pro-Palestine supporters in London aggressively attacked an Israeli supporter, surrounding him and screaming abuse before police stepped in to protect the individual.

    Pro-Palestine supporters have attacked a man in Trafalgar Square because he held a sign calling Hamas terrorists.

    Pro-Palestine supporters have attacked British police with fireworks.

    Pro-Palestine supporters have vandalized a cenotaph war memorial in Rochester.

    Pro-Palestine supporters in Bristol are forcing children to miss school and chant slogans associated with the extermination of Israel and Jews.

    Pro-Palestine supporters have attacked an elderly army veteran selling poppies, punching and kicking him until others rescued him from the Pro-Palestine mob.

    Pro-Palestine supporters at Charing Cross have displayed the Nazi Swastika.

    Pro-Palestine supporters in London are targeting Jewish children, throwing red paint over their schools in order to frighten and intimidate Jewish families.

    Pro-Palestine supporters in London (and across the world) have spent weeks angrily marching for Israel to ceasefire and leave the racist, mass murdering, genocidal Hamas terrorist group in power over Gaza.

    The list goes on and on.

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    • harry142857 says:
      November 23, 2023 at 6:31 am

      The police are not actively pursuing these terrorist supporters, though.
      They are concentrating on the ‘right wing thugs’ who were near the Cenotaph on 11/11.

      Police were threatening innocent people with arrest for made up offences such as “Being in a pub drinking a pint with some mates on a Saturday.”

      What about the guys that aimed fireworks at the old bill?

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      • G says:
        November 23, 2023 at 10:59 am

        Harry,

        I foresee a future time when the exhausted police will seek or welcome the help of the, “Right Wing Thugs” to help them protect other members of the white British population. On that turn in the tables, guess what the, “Right Wing Thugs” will do…………….. (if they’ve got any sense !)

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      • Docmarooned says:
        November 23, 2023 at 11:19 am

        Like the old not the nine’o’clock news sketch with constable savage – walking around in a loud shirt, stepping on the cracks in the pavement etc

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    • Dickie says:
      November 23, 2023 at 7:50 am

      Take it you don’t like pro-Palestine supporters then.

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      • Zephir says:
        November 23, 2023 at 8:28 am

        The actions of so many of them speak for themselves as war mongering racists intent upon the death of Jewish people (first in line) who is next ?

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    • popeye says:
      November 23, 2023 at 12:58 pm

      There is no-one as illiberal as a liberal

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  30. Yasser Dasmibehbi says:
    November 23, 2023 at 6:24 am

    Geert Wilders wins Dutch General election!

    Yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!! (imho)

    The formation of a government may take time but this result is, to use a current expression, seismic!

    A ‘certain demographic’ is not happy.
    I’m predicting the EU won’t be popping the corks either.

    It is hugely encouraging for the populists across Europe.
    The tide is turning.

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    • Ian Rushlow says:
      November 23, 2023 at 6:43 am

      Must be false news. Just yesterday I read on the BBC website that Holland was bang on track to elect its first female Prime Minister and, given that she had come to the Netherlands as a 7 year old migrant from Turkey, how could the Dutch voters even think of any other candidate? Mind you, they got it wrong in Argentina earlier this week. And in Italy. Hungary etc etc.

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  31. andyjsnape says:
    November 23, 2023 at 6:48 am

    Dutch election: Anti-Islam populist Wilders set for big win
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-67504272

    Good news, its a step in the right direction

    I guess the bbc isn’t favourable “anti-islam populist” etc

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    • Fedup2 says:
      November 23, 2023 at 8:32 am

      Toady watch
      It seems clear that the BBC doesn’t want to cover the Dutch election – and certainly the vote for Wilders – it doesn’t say why people voted for him – or details of his policies – instead Comrade Robinson just acted like a kidult unable to pronounce his name …..
      The system will kill Wilders – either politically or physically – any challenge to the Reich EU or Islam must be destroyed – it’s the way things are and unless Islam is fought will destroy what’s left of our western way of life – aided by the already subverted BBC ..

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    • G says:
      November 23, 2023 at 11:03 am

      Andy,

      Stand by to expect condemnation from MSM/Communists around the world and in Holland. Use Trump as an example of what’s to come.

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  32. Thoughtful says:
    November 23, 2023 at 7:34 am

    Here is my own economic analysis of yesterdays Autumn Statement by the Tories.

    We are by the opinion of most financial commentators, on the cusp of another great financial crisis with insolvent banks and problems in the automotive and property sectors. We are also facing high inflation in much of the West with rising interest rates and increased government profligacy.

    Giving away tax money going into this economic storm will have the following effects. Inflation is likely to be kick started again because of the increased liquidity. The pound has fallen quite sharply as a result making imports more expensive and pushing up inflation again. The government defeceit will increase and bond yields are going to rise – that is providing that they don’t go into another type of Liz Truss style meltdown.

    The time for this budget was at the bottom of the economic cycle not where we are now.
    So, from an economic point of view it’s not a good budget at all.

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    • Dickie says:
      November 23, 2023 at 7:53 am

      All going well according to the globalised and WEF plans then.

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    • Fedup2 says:
      November 23, 2023 at 8:41 am

      Thoughtful – I’m as pessimistic as you on this . The addiction to benefits continues – not much coverage of the 8% hike in State pensions . I think something like 1.7 million household fixed mortgages end this and next year –

      As for the budget – the blue labour put the red labour into a box ( which is just swamp nonsense ) but failure to increase income tax thresholds is going to suppress those trying to earn more money ….

      Apparently failing to uprate’public services to meet inflation -means a real term reduction of 19 billion which can only be a good thing

      We are extremely exposed to any further ‘black swan ‘ event such as bank failures …

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  33. atlas_shrugged says:
    November 23, 2023 at 7:48 am

    In bBC headline news SHOCK on the NL elections bBC do NOT use the smear term:

    ‘Faaaaaahhhhhhhhh Rightttttttt’

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-67504272

    He is now an ‘Anti-Islam populist’

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    • Zephir says:
      November 23, 2023 at 8:30 am

      A populast politician elected, hmm is that not how the bbc would like democracy to work then ?

      Anti islam = pro freedom, freedom of expression, freedom for gay people, Christians, Jews, freedom for women to wear what they want etc etc

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    • MarkyMark says:
      November 23, 2023 at 9:10 am

      Farrrr left … Corbyn … Hamas are our friends!

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  35. AsISeeIt says:
    November 23, 2023 at 8:20 am

    How could we forget that day Jacob Rees-Mogg crossed swords with sparring partner David Dimbleby on Question Time, throwing down his gilded gauntlet to call out the BBC man over the prevalence in BBC reporting of the phrase ‘despite Brexit‘

    For good measure Rees-Mogg then slapping the denialist Dimbleby across the mush with that old chairman’s trick of ask the audience.

    “We’re out!” had gone up Dimbleby’s battle cry to the complacent sleepy Remainers, as their awakening call to arms on the morning after. And the rest is history.

    But at least the preposition ‘despite‘ was revealed as our media watchword of the decade.

    The BBC likes the pound shop Guardian, the mid-wit bullet point festooned, multi-coloured victory of graphics over design that is the frontpage of the left-leaning ‘i’ newspaper, as its top pick in the BBC online press line-up this morning.

    Tax burden to hit record high despite 2p cut for millions (‘i’)

    Did someone say there was a budget statement yesterday? Better pop the FT in as runner up in the BBC online press line-up.

    Tax burden surges despite Hunt cuts (Financial Times)

    From HS2 to the Benefits bill, via Net Zero, the Ukraine war and Lockdowns… I’m struggling to recall a single avenue of government spending where our mainstream media didn’t cheer on, push for more, or bemoan any tentative cutback.

    In spite of loving the spending in all its forms the Fourth Estate now pretend to wail for tax cuts. What would they have the government do… print more money?

    That’s how we got here – inflation-wise.

    To summarise – the two national dailies that prefer the word ‘despite‘ in their headlines are prefered by our BBC. Their own press review header, perhaps still feeling somewhat chastened by that gentlemanly thrashing from the Mogg, deploys instead a rather blunt ‘but‘: Newspaper headlines: ‘Happy N.I. Year’ but ‘tax burden to hit record high’

    And so we put this one to bed passing over Matt’s comic sketch of a Santa admonished to look for work on the other 364 days a year. The Telegraph’s in-house cartoonist riffing on the notion that Hunt is trying to nudge benefits claimants back to work. As if that’s going to happen. As if employers will consider our gimpy work-shy pasty duvet and gogglebox-loving locals when meanwhile there’s the door propped wide open to mass third world immigration. And no externalities like healthcare, education or housing for the corporations to pay for as part of the so-called living wage.

    Dark comedic cartoon humour instead comes care of the Guardian – hardly one’s first port of call for an early morning smile I hear the audience protest. Unintentional humour, I insist.

    Beside the masthead title the Gruan presents their teaser for a budget special: Autumn Statement what it means for you

    And we have a cartoon sketch of a presumably Guardian-reading average family gathered – not on the Clapham omnibus but on the (no doubt DFS) sofa. Firstly, let’s allow a little kudos for the fact that the couple are at least hetrosexual – him black, her white, obviously. Eldest son distracted by his mobile, tracksuited and baseball cap reversed. Good luck with that job interview and getting hisself off benefits if he turns up looking like that. Second younger child is female and she plays enthusiatically with a toy dinosuar. I forsee a bright future career in science for the lass – co-authoring research papers that tell us Britain has been structually racist since Triceratops stalked the Cotswolds – and temperatures have been getting steadily hotter ever since, despite the Ice Age, or some such.

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  36. JohnC says:
    November 23, 2023 at 8:27 am

    Dutch election: Anti-Islam populist Geert Wilders wins dramatic victory
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-67504272

    ‘Before the vote, the three other big parties ruled out taking part in a Wilders-led government because of his far-right policies. ‘

    ‘The left-wing alliance under ex-EU commissioner Frans Timmermans has come a distant second with 25 seats, according to a forecast based on 94% of the vote.

    He made clear he would have nothing to do with a Wilders-led government, promising to defend Dutch democracy and rule of law.’

    Implying Wilders won’t then BBC ?. The irony of quoting someone refusing to have anything to do with a democratically elected leader whilst promising to ‘defend democracy’ is clearly lost on this BBC activist.

    ‘Nationalist and far-right leaders around Europe praised his achievement.’. Anyone else praise him BBC ?. Or just the ones you hate ?.

    And isn’t it amazing how anyone on the right is downplayed and given no chance by the Left before an election. I wonder if it’s simply to starve them of positive publicity or it’s the fascist Nazi effect of the Leftist media where people dare not say what they really think for fear of being singled out for it.

    In any event, this all shows just how much the BBC hate democracy when they don’t like the result.

    Here’s the BBC reporter behind it:
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    ‘A BBC foreign correspondent is aiming to inspire other working mothers by presenting news reports with her child in a buggy alongside her.’

    Ridiculous. Another narcissistic BBC activist on the licence fee payers teat. If the BBC had any professionalism left in it’s news, they would not allow it.

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    • AsISeeIt says:
      November 23, 2023 at 8:37 am

      ‘the three other big parties ruled out taking part in a Wilders-led government because of his far-right policies’

      Don’t let anyone convince you that proportional representation may be the answer to getting actual conservatives into power.

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    • Fedup2 says:
      November 23, 2023 at 8:45 am

      Laughed out loud at that one – at least she ain’t wearing a hijab ..yet ..

      As for the Dutch election – it has the whiff of ‘vote again get the approved result next time ‘….

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    • Zephir says:
      November 23, 2023 at 9:28 am

      looks like babies father came from Zeta Reticuli or somewhere nearby, either that or the banjo player in Deliverance

         8 likes

    • G says:
      November 23, 2023 at 12:17 pm

      Another Mekon?

         4 likes

    • Zephir says:
      November 23, 2023 at 8:48 am

      Take it you don’t like Israel then ?

         20 likes

    • JohnC says:
      November 23, 2023 at 9:02 am

      You really do visit some crackpot websites Dickie.

      Of course Hamas can commit as many war-crimes as they like without them being mentioned. Instead they are quoted as a legitimate government by the BBC. Whatever it takes to rid the planet of those savages who did what they did on Oct 7th is fine by me.

      Anyone trying to make out Israel are the bad guys in this aren’t worth whatever that is stuck to my shoe.

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      • MarkyMark says:
        November 23, 2023 at 9:13 am

        Seeing the other side is of interest – bubbles can be burst.

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        • JohnC says:
          November 23, 2023 at 9:41 am

          That’s true Mark, but it’s rarely as clear cut as this. It’s the same as ISIS. There is no reasoning. No trust. No logic. Just religious fanaticism where they think they are doing Gods will. That’s how these ‘family men’ who love their own children can tie other children together and set them on fire.

          Israel are no angels : they’ve learned how to fight terrorists the hard way. But the BBC don’t report what happens.

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          • MarkyMark says:
            November 23, 2023 at 9:48 am

            Hi John – “.. rarely as clear cut as this” very true, as Orwell said … “To see what is in front of one’s nose needs a constant struggle. One thing that helps toward it is to keep a diary, or, at any rate, to keep some kind of record of one’s opinions about important events. Otherwise, when some particularly absurd belief is exploded by events, one may simply forget that one ever held it.”

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  38. MarkyMark says:
    November 23, 2023 at 9:07 am

    Wilders ditched his previous policies to ban Mosques and the Quran, instead opting for the more liberal approach, promising to be a PM “for all Dutch people, whatever your faith, your background“.

    https://order-order.com/

    ……………….

    Le Pen is bad, but many French Muslims like me don’t want to vote for Macron either
    This article is more than 1 year oldSafya Khan-Ruf
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/22/macron-or-le-pen-many-french-muslims-may-say-neither

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  39. Emmanuel Goldstein says:
    November 23, 2023 at 9:09 am

    If you think 8.5% pension rise is too much, the amount it goes up in money isn’t as great as it seems.

    The rise using the old pension which most pensioners get is about the equivalent of a little below 3% if applied to the average pay (if they get the full pension)

    How many workers would be happy to get a below 3% rise I wonder.

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  40. MarkyMark says:
    November 23, 2023 at 9:11 am

    Party of Islam: new political party registration rejected by UK Electoral Commission
    written by EUToday Correspondents October 30, 2023 3 comments

    https://eutoday.net/party-of-islam-uk/

    ……………………..

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  41. Doublethinker says:
    November 23, 2023 at 9:22 am

    So Wilders has won. Will the liberals be able to neuter him as they have at least partially done with Meloni? Even if they do partially succeed this result will increase the pressure on the EU to really clamp down on Muslim immigration and on Islamification. We see anti Islamic parties ( they sometimes claim they are not anti Islamic but voters know they are) vying for power in Germany, France,Spain and Sweden, the heart of the EU.
    I don’t think that even the sinister globalists will be able to successfully fight on all these fronts. The people of Europe have been pushed too far and are now , at last, pushing back.
    If the EU does reform, becomes more democratic, returns powers from the centre to the nation states, clamps down on immigration, abandons the aim of ever closer Union and becomes a free trade block of friendly nations , we should consider rejoining . Let’s see what happens in the next couple of years !

       14 likes

    • MarkyMark says:
      November 23, 2023 at 9:29 am

      Meloni quoting Chesterton

      “Fires will be kindled to testify that two and two make four. Swords will be drawn to prove that leaves are green in summer. We shall be left defending, not only the incredible virtues and sanities of human life, but something more incredible”

         7 likes

    • MarkyMark says:
      November 23, 2023 at 9:31 am

      “we should consider rejoining” – NOT AN EMPIRE
      ………………

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      https://memory-holed-news.blogspot.com/2023/05/eu27-freedom-juncker-wants-39bn.html

         2 likes

      • Doublethinker says:
        November 23, 2023 at 12:07 pm

        I said that we should Consider re joining only if there were the fundamental changes I outlined, power back to the nation states and away from Brussels and the unelected commission, no Muslim immigration, abandonment of ever closer Union as the goal. If those things happened then it would sensible to rejoin.

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      • MarkyMark says:
        November 23, 2023 at 9:46 am

        Dutch MP banned from entering UK
        Geert Wilders
        Mr Wilders has threatened to defy the ban on him
        A Dutch MP who called the Koran a “fascist book” says he still plans to travel to the UK despite being banned on public security grounds.
        http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7882953.stm
        ……………………..

        Anjem Choudary calls Duke of Sussex a ‘Muslim killer’ and calls on jihadis to retaliate
        Hate preacher said Harry’s claim he killed 25 Taliban was a ‘wake-up call’ for Muslims everywhere to ‘end the occupation of foreign forces’
        2023

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        • Jeff says:
          November 23, 2023 at 10:51 am

          Yes, that could be very interesting.

          By nature and experience, I’m normally a political pessimist, but I’m allowing myself a small frisson of pleasure today.

          If (please God) Wilders does become Dutch PM how would it be possible for our gutless parliament to refuse him entry to our country? I mean, every other blighter washes up here…They would be forced to accept him and kow-tow to a foreign leader, just as they do to the head of China. Oh joy…

          The media wouldn’t know how to handle it, though no doubt the BBC and the equally poisonous Sky News would make much use of the term “far right.”

          Perhaps Tommy might even get a one to one meeting with him, where they discuss Islamic terrorism, gang violence and the paedo groomers.

          I keep thinking of that song they sang for Blair’s election victory, back in May 1997. Only this time it might just be true.

          Things can only get better…

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  42. MarkyMark says:
    November 23, 2023 at 9:28 am

    Who needs islamic terrorism! Eco terrorism!

    https://www.theguardian.com/news/2023/may/02/e-bike-e-scooter-battery-fires-uk-data

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    In Merseyside in January, Rab Shearer and his son Gary were killed when an e-bike battery set to charge overnight caused a house fire. In South Yorkshire, a dozen fires since the start of 2020 have claimed two lives. Last September, Abdul Jabar Oryakhel, from Afghanistan, died falling from the top floor of a Bristol tower block after an e-bike started a blaze.

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  44. MarkyMark says:
    November 23, 2023 at 9:45 am

    672,000 … The latest immigration statistics for 2023 have just been released by the ONS, with the headline figure for net migration estimated at 672,000.
    order-order.com 23/11/2023

    …………………………

    40,000 Home Office has lost track of 40,000 rejected migrants 2009

    …………………………..

    The number of terror suspects on the watchlist of Britain’s MI5 security service has risen to 43,000, more than double the figure from the previous year, local media reported Tuesday.

    …….

    Theresa May The Secretary of State for the Home Department 12:37 pm, 20th April 2016
    The first priority of government is the safety and security of its citizens, and the Government have always made the integrity of the UK border a priority. We will never compromise on keeping the people of this country safe from terrorism, criminality and illegal immigration.

    https://www.theyworkforyou.com/debates/?id=2016-04-20a.923.2

    Government have always made the integrity of the UK border a priority 672,000 net 40,000 lost 43000 watch list

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  45. Up2snuff says:
    November 23, 2023 at 10:13 am

    TOADY Watch #1 – hhhmmmnn, BBC spreading guilt by name association?

    Apparently Jamie Foxx, the African American actor, no relation to James Fox, the famous English actor, and his son Laurence with whom the BBC, no doubt, would have ‘an uneasy relationship’. No matter, it is only another case of alleged sexual assault, abuse, assault and battery against Jamie Foxx. Right at the end the BBC newsreader mentions that Jamie Foxx’s real name is Eric Marlon Bishop. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67505086

    Ring any bells, that ‘real name’ thing?

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    • MarkyMark says:
      November 23, 2023 at 10:15 am

      “Former US President Donald Trump, rapper Sean Combs, comedian Bill Cosby, actor Cuba Gooding Jr and Russell Brand have all been sued under the act.”

         1 likes

    • TrickCyclist says:
      November 23, 2023 at 12:43 pm

      A video 14 seconds long that probably tells you all you need to know about Jamie Foxx.

         2 likes

  46. MarkyMark says:
    November 23, 2023 at 10:16 am

    Money trumps morals!

    “England midfielder Jordan Henderson’s Saudi Arabia move felt like a “slap in the face” following his support of the LGBTQ+ community, says Jake Daniels.”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67500698

       5 likes

    • JohnC says:
      November 23, 2023 at 10:35 am

      Second only in it’s magnitude of complete greed-based hypocrisy to his worship ‘sir Nick of Clegg’ who pledged to save the UK from the evils of Brexit right up until Facebook offered him more money to drop it all and go to the USA.

         13 likes

      • Guest Who says:
        November 23, 2023 at 10:53 am

        Not forgetting the BBC making him a Newsnight impartial roving reporter prior to the vote to enable viewers to make the correct decisions.

        Another triumph of establishment attempted rigging.

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  47. Zephir says:
    November 23, 2023 at 10:22 am

    Just the ones we know about ?

    “Tories hit the panic button after net migration is upgraded to ANOTHER new record of 745,000 a year – equivalent to the size of Cambridge – driven by arrivals from outside the EU looking for work”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12783349/Net-migration-high-huge-pressure-Rishi-Sunak.html

       12 likes

  48. tomo says:
    November 23, 2023 at 10:57 am

    Listening to R4 driving this morning the discombobulation at the Dutch election results has the BBC at a bit of a loss…

    Not a mention of populism or comments from the usual suspects…..

       13 likes

    • Rob in Cheshire says:
      November 23, 2023 at 11:35 am

      Why would anyone vote against mass muslim immigration and net zero? The BBC is at a loss to explain this bizarre phenomenon.

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    • Terminal Moraine says:
      November 23, 2023 at 11:49 am

      I just read the Guardian, which seems to view the whole thing as a failure of liberal parties and the media to properly frame the ‘far-right’. In essence — if you give them airtime they’ll win; and if you question their fitness to govern they’ll also win.

      Completely over-inflated view of their own importance. People can make their own decisions independent of a system that perpetually treats them like 8yr old children on the naughty step.

      Still not getting it.

      https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/nov/23/netherlands-far-right-geert-wilders-victory-mark-rutte

         10 likes

      • Guest Who says:
        November 23, 2023 at 11:57 am

        So, nothing to do with libleft/media policies being utter distastrous pants for all but their own egos and ambitions and wallets then?

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        • Terminal Moraine says:
          November 23, 2023 at 12:04 pm

          I doubt it! It’s always dangerous far-right politicians corrupting a stupid electorate. Never about people making up their own minds by independently assessing evidence.

          Times economics editor (Mehreen Khan) having a major wobble also:

          Totally shocking that Wilders has capitalised in a country where the ruling party’s last three electoral campaigns went a bit like this #VVD 2023: “Maybe we can work with Wilders” 2021: Rutte: “I will close the border to non-existent migrants”2017: Rutte: pic.twitter.com/nWcvDLckki— Mehreen Khan (@MehreenKhn) November 22, 2023

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  49. Up2snuff says:
    November 23, 2023 at 11:26 am

    TOADY Watch #2 – there’s trouble at Mill, eee lad!

    Chancellor Jeremy Hunt is on a factory visit ‘ooop Nawth’, no doubt to see how his capital investment changes are working and ‘creating growth’. Cynic? Moi? I could not possibly comment. Fortunately, the BBC’s current Political Editor, Chris Mason, was on hand to talk to the BBC’s Political Editor before last, Nick Robinson, while the Chancellor found a good old land line on which to call the BBC.

    The Beeboids are really upset that, thanks to the largesse of Licence Fee taxpayers, they are victims of ‘fiscal drag’. Their ever increasing incomes, thanks to the Telly Tax, mean that the Editor Beeboids are now edging dangerously close to the Top Income Tax rate if they are not already in it. The cuts in NI rates will not come close to to compensating them, if at all.

    Therefore much speculation on the timing of the next General Election from Chris and Nick. Eventually, Nick did get to talk to the Chancellor but he did mention his tax burden quite a lot. Poor old Nick!

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  50. MarkyMark says:
    November 23, 2023 at 11:41 am

    NOTHING TO DO WITH CLIMATE – HA HA HA!

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67506382

    Wembley’s arch will only be lit for football and entertainment under a new Football Association policy.

    The decision follows criticism when the arch was not lit in the colours of the Israel flag after attacks by Hamas in which 1,200 people were killed.

    Israel responded to the attacks with a military campaign during which Gaza’s Hamas-run health ministry says more than 14,000 people have been killed.

    A period of silence was held at Wembley for “innocent victims” of the conflict.

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