495 Responses to Midweek 29th November 2023

  1. MarkyMark says:

    The painfully slow and costly Covid-19 public inquiry is cross-examining Reality TV star Matt Hancock today, facing some robust questioning from Hugo Keith KC. Hancock is now claiming that he tried to convince Boris on the 13th March to lock down. Keith pointed out that Hancock’s own book states itself to be “meticulously pieced together” from all the evidence and “records all the relevant, important events“, yet includes “no reference” to the supposed lockdown conversation on the 13th March, alongside no other record of it taking place. Hancock’s defence: “I can remember it”…
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    Hancock + jungle = £400K

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    • Fedup2 says:

      The Man is a Babe Magnet …. I wonder how many old people in care homes he was responsible for killing ?

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    • Terminal Moraine says:

      Hancock said earlier that he overrode scientific advice about viral transmission. Consensus was that contagion happened via the symptomatic (like every other respiratory virus), but he steered policy based on some sketchy reports from China and Germany that said it could be passed on without symptoms.

      And for three years having to hear those unbearable lies that the gov were ‘data driven’ and following science.

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  2. Lucy Pevensey says:

    BBC staff are already crazy. They hope they can blame that on white people. Or is this just soft Islamic conquest?

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    • MarkyMark says:

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    • Terminal Moraine says:

      Lucy I listen to R5 so am familiar with him, his heritage is Sri Lankan Buddhist. Nihal’s sneering bias towards the British majority makes the rest of W1A look like rank amateurs.

      He’s got a book out; the blurb says his guests “have lauded his seemingly innate ability to stimulate positive discussions without the need for confrontation. Now he wants to understand how he developed his skills, what it exactly means to have a ‘great conversation’ and, most importantly, how he can teach us to have better interactions in our everyday lives.”

      Ironic indeed.

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      • Rob in Cheshire says:

        Which one’s Nihal?

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        • Fedup2 says:

          I think he does the 5live live afternoon show – which comes on after I hit the ‘off switch ( don’t really listen to 5 – ever )

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        • Scroblene says:

          One’s a parrot, the other is a twat who nobody cares a f*** about…

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      • Charlie Farley says:

        Terminal Moraine ,
        From another site talking about this indulgent prat ” Imagine a country so great that even those that hate it won’t leave ”
        What more can I say !

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  3. MarkyMark says:

    Miliband derided the media coverage of the plans, saying,”I’m old enough to know you don’t believe everything you read in the newspapers or online.” The media has simply been reporting what the Labour Party’s figures tell them. Does he mean don’t believe what his party says?
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  4. JohnC says:

    BBC front page headline

    ‘US Warns Israel civilians must be protected if fighting resumes’

    What the USA actually said:

    ‘Blinken urged Israel to “take every possible measure to avoid civilian harm”.’
    Not the same thing at all there BBC. You’ve added some of your lie.

    Then we get:
    “The secretary stressed the imperative of accounting for humanitarian and civilian protection needs in southern Gaza before any military operations there.’

    So it’s not even about the war zone in the North. That’s another slice of lie you’ve added BBC.

    The BBC has degenerated into a photo-gallery slide-show of very carefully arranged Getty images.

    The BBC don’t seem very interested in the REAL terrorist attack on the streets of Jerusalem at all. They do print the Hamas statement calling for “an escalation of the resistance,” just to make sure all the Muslims in Gaza hear about it. Aren’t there rules about promoting things like this from official terrorist organisations ?.

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    • Guest Who says:

      I’ll check, but a link would help.

      Because that is flat out misinformation and I’m keen to learn their weasel out in 6 months.

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      • JohnC says:

        This was in their ‘live feed’ Guest. And the outright lie part was the front-page headline which disappears when they change it and never appears in the main article. It’s the morphing-headline trick and they use it a lot.

        It’s one of their unethical, dirty ways to lie I’ve mentioned several times here. They have started doing the same with accompanying pictures as well – such a showing Palestinian ‘victims’ next to empathy stories – even though they have nothing to do with it.

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        • Guest Who says:

          Tx. Yes, their tricks are too many, varied and always one way.

          As mentioned recently, they are now not above flat out lying for all to see.

          Do you have a page grab?

          I am pondering an FOI, though it will likely be refused on the grounds that proving the BBC is corrupt to the core is exempted.

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  5. Fedup2 says:

    On a good day for obituary writers – here’s another one from Robin Aitken – this obit is for the late and hated ‘newsnight ‘ – enjoy STARTS

    They’re keeping the nameplate but understand this – the Newsnight of old is dead. The BBC’s announcement that the programme is to suffer a swingeing £7.5 million cut in its budget and an equally painful 15 minute cut in its running time marks the end of an era. Once upon a time – and not so many years ago at that – Newsnight was the place where BBC journalistic reputations were made and burnished. From now on it’ll just be another talk show, its glory days long gone, the survivors forever living in the shadow of former triumphs.

    There was an inevitability about this savage surgery because it makes perfect sense. In recent years the programme has been making the headlines for all the wrong reasons. There was the prolonged and damaging fallout from the Emily Maitlis episode when, in 2020, she tossed the boring old BBC dogma of impartiality overboard and decided to deliver to the nation her unvarnished opinions about the dishonesty of Dominic Cummings and Boris Johnson’s government. At the time Maitlis’s lefty harangue infuriated many Conservatives and she was reprimanded – but then quickly reappeared on the show (although last year she was eased out and left to do her podcast at Global, The News Agents).

    The point about Newsnight – in the wider BBC context – is that it was getting to be bad for business. From its early days it always felt, to its critics, like “Guardian TV” (a view strongly bolstered by the background of some of its senior personnel; Ian Katz, Newsnight editor from 2013 – 2017 had actually been the Guardian’s deputy editor). In all its years it has never been a friend to the political right; it always dressed left and was proud to do so. And there was a certain arrogant swagger to its politics; it seemed to shrug off its Conservative critics, complacently secure in its luxury beliefs which were, after all, shared by its audience and the media elite of which it was so much a part.

    But times change. Newsnight became not just an irritant but a headache for BBC management. Those who work closely with the Director General Tim Davie tell me he is perfectly sincere in his desire to restore the Corporation’s reputation for impartiality; Newsnight’s many transgressions on that score cannot have pleased him. The budget cut and shorter time slot will thus seem to many to be condign punishment. Newsnight has got its comeuppance and few tears will be shed in Tory ranks on that account.

    But aside from the politics of Newsnight there is another compelling reason why it was low hanging fruit, ripe for pruning. Newsnight’s total budget has been something around the £13 million mark. When rumours of cuts first surfaced a month ago there was talk of a £5 million cut; the fact that the actual cut is 50 per cent greater shows a certain ruthlessness by BBC management. The lost £7.5 million represents about 58 per cent of Newsnight’s money – which, by my calculation, roughly matches the drop in the programme’s audience over the past 10 years. In its pomp it sometimes had 800,000 viewers; nowadays it’s lucky to get 300,000. To a media accountant – indeed to any rational manager – Newsnight’s rapidly disappearing audience was perhaps the best argument of all for trimming its budget.

    The boss of BBC News and Current Affairs, Deborah Turness was blunt. “It simply no longer makes sense,” she said, “to keep a bespoke reporting team dedicated to a single news programme with a small and declining audience, however good that programme is.”

    So what will be left after the surgery? The programme’s staff will drop from 57 to 23 and instead of investigations by reporters there will be debates, discussions and interviews. This means that Newsnight will be entering an already crowded field. As viewers we are hardly starved of this kind of fare: Sky, Channel 4, GB News and Murdoch’s Talk TV are all doing similar programmes so the question is what will in future distinguish Newsnight, what will be its USP?

    Newsnight’s future success will depend to a great extent on who will front-up the new show and here again change is in the air. Newsnight’s current Queen Bee is Kirsty Wark but she is to retire next year. Alongside her are Victoria Derbyshire and Faisal Islam but it’s not clear to me that either of them has sufficient star pulling-power to turn the new talk show into must-see TV; neither is the new Paxman. Partly, of course, that’s because “must-see TV” is itself becoming a rarity, certainly in news and current affairs. In the BBC statement announcing the Newsnight changes much emphasis is put on the need to adapt to changing audience preferences. And “linear TV is in decline .

    The term refers to the television of the TV listings page. The kind of stuff where you turn on your set and settle down to watch whatever the channel schedule delivers. Fewer and fewer of us do so. Most people are now media-savvy enough to get whatever they want online and at a time that suits them. That interesting discussion you missed last night? Catch it on YouTube this morning: simple and convenient. The remaining audience for linear TV tends to be older, more set in its ways. Very few of the under-35s now sit down and docilely lap-up what the schedule dictates. I predict that Newsnight Mark Two will find it difficult to hold on even to the audience it currently enjoys.

    Today’s cutback announcement has gone down predictably badly with all the usual suspects. Channel 4 news host Krishnan Guru-Murthy called it a “sad day”, ex-BBC reporter John Sweeney said Newsnight was “the trouble-making conscience of the BBC”, the National Union of Journalists regretted the BBC’s retreat from investigative journalism. The BBC itself disputes the last claim. It says money will now be put into a new investigations unit but it will be a common resource for all BBC programmes.

    That marks a significant change because BBC News and Current Affairs traditionally was divided into separate (and often competing) fiefdoms. Important programmes like Today and Newsnight had their own reporting teams and this gave their editors real freedom to set their own agendas. Newsnight was one of the last redoubts of the old system (Today had its reporting team slashed years ago) but it now too has succumbed.

    Does it matter? We will always need good investigative journalism and no journalist should ever celebrate when ambitions are lowered and jobs are lost. But I can’t help but feel Newsnight had it coming. Too full of itself, too condescending, too much aligned with an out-of-touch liberal elite it ended up speaking only to people like itself. The rationale for the cuts just announced is compelling, but in its new format it will be a ghost of its former self and unlikely to satisfy anyone. Surely he BBC should have gone further and axed the programme altogether. ENDs

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  6. Richard Pinder says:

    End of the World is expected as Henry Kissinger dies at the age of 100, and former Chancellor Alistair Darling dies aged 70. Also US President Jo Biden falls down brain dead aged 81.

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    • Dickie says:

      Kissinger brain about to be transferred to Joe Biden:

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      • Fedup2 says:

        I wonder if there is much discussion about the nature of racism ? I’ve always considered my self to be a racist . I use my prejudices – I group people by type almost instantly – whether consciously or un – the other one …..

        I ask the question because of the nonsense about royals and the baby of the American half caste actress ….

        At what stage does the label of racism get triggered . ? Is wondering aloud about the skin colour racism ? Is asking where someone’s ‘people ‘ are from racism ? Is the comment by that paki bloke – nihil? About being ‘uncomfortable ‘ with white folk racism ?
        Rhetorical questions – anyone or thing can now be instantly and permanently be labelled ‘ racist ‘ and therefore unworthy of life .
        I choose my words carefully – the world has gone effing mad…..

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Funny isn’t it – we can list those whose careers have been ended by a comment – no trial – no appeal – just some eastern block absolutism ….
          And those who have said offensive things but got away with it ….

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        • Zelazek says:

          Fed,

          There is no discussion about the definition of racism because if there was it would quickly become clear that the term had been devalued and trivialised by today’s clownworld.

          I like the old and narrow definitions that racism is discrimination on the basis of race or the denial of rights and freedoms on the basis of race.

          Recently dictionaries have tried to extend its meaning to include not just overt expressions such as the above but covert expressions, unconscious expressions and micro expressions. The term is also used to describe discrimination on the basis of differences other than race such as ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, culture, etc., which to my mind is not just an imprecise use of language but a misuse of language.

          I suspect the meaning has been extended to an absurd degree because it has proved to be effective as an accusation and very useful for racebaiters and malcontents. If the Harkles want to get at the Royals, all they have to do is say that Charles and Kate openly wondered about the skin colour of the unborn Archie and the charge of “racism” promptly follows and loudly proclaimed as if it is a logical conclusion and a racist act equivalent to a lynching by the KKK.

          I see this breakdown in the meaning of language as a small element in the larger phenomenon of the collapse of our civilisation.

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          • Fedup2 says:

            Zelazek

            It’s ironic that such a powerful accusation can be made by any one of the approved colour – without any consequences for them . They are never – or seldom – proved wrong .

            I hope the royals do go to court on this and destroy this scobby character as well as get an apology and any profits made from that book – no doubt some of the money wouid otherwise be going to the American half caste actress ….

            I use half caste because I will not obey language rules set by the Far Left / race industry – same with my use of ‘coloured ‘..

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            • Zelazek says:

              Fed, yes, and “half caste” means exactly the same thing as “mixed race” (the acceptable term). “Half caste” shouldn’t be a problem but it acquired negative connotations so had to be replaced by something that sounded cuddly.

              The trouble is that half castes or mixed race people have historically been negatively regarded by all sides. But changing the term for something usually doesn’t work in the long run because of something called the euphemism treadmill. The new term soon acquires the old negative connotations and itself has to be replaced.

              Language is certainly a battleground.

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  7. tomo says:

    That’s muslim public prayer snookered then?

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    • Guest Who says:

      MAS fly to/from Madrid?

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    • MarkyMark says:

      “The socialist government in Spain has just outlawed public recitation of the Rosary”

      ……………..

      The First Amendment provides that Congress make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting its free exercise. It protects freedom of speech, the press, assembly, and the right to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

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  8. Guest Who says:

    JusRol is basking in his scoop still, but is enjoying the sun too.

    I just got a ‘special BBC COP 28’ email.

    Starts with…

    Justin Rowlatt
    30 November 2023
    Hello and welcome to this special edition newsletter on the first day of the UN climate summit in Dubai.

    Bill Gates and King Charles are among the big names confirmed to attend, together with more than 160 world leaders and some 70,000 – yes, 70,000 – other delegates.

    At which point I fell off my chair laughing.

    There was a LOT more. But… really… by now… who pays any attention to these 70,000 grifters?

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  9. JohnC says:

    Two men guilty of radio DJ kidnap killing
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67579208

    A rollicking story all about the benefits of enrichment – which you would never be able to guess from the very bland headline given to it by the BBC.

    ‘Mr Alpergin was beaten, throttled, burned and stabbed before his body was dumped in an Essex woodland.’

    ‘Jurors were told 43-year-old Mr Alpergin’s killing bore “all the hallmarks” of serious organised crime and the world of drugs.’

    Summary: DJ Mehmet Koray Alpergin was kidnapped, tortured and murdered by Tejean Kennedy and Ali Kavak.

    However in a bizarre twist which happens so often for these people, despite all that they were actually only convicted of manslaughter. Puts the ‘murder’ verdict for the drug-addict, career-criminal Floyd into perspective.

    Other names in the frame are Samuel Owusu-Opoku and Yigit Hurman.

    Everyone else seems to have fled back to Turkey or whatever.

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  10. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    At this COP 28 jolly they want to increase fuel tax on aeroplanes.

    When we were in the eu this would have just been nodded through and our politicians would simply say “nothing we can do about it, it’s the eu”
    Now, our politicians don’t have that excuse, they can’t blame it on the eu and voters can hold them responsible.

    That’s one reason why most politicians love the eu as it absolves them of having to openly vote on things like this.

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    • Scroblene says:

      It seems that the ‘accounts’ of the awful EU have never been signed off, so therefore this is a signal that like most political bunches of charlatans, losers, pocket-liners and disgraded members of their national societies, the requirement for honesty and probity is a far cry from the real reason why they all get together to scrounge as much cash as they can from a gullible public, and try to claim that it is all for the common good.

      We were well shot of this heinous crowd, but the Tories just wasted the biggest opportunity we’d seen for decades. Labour will start to get back in next year, and can you imagine the likes of Diane Abbott being in charge…

      B****y f*****g h**ll…

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  11. Sluff says:

    Alastair Darling has died.
    A decent man.
    Coverage references his early years Far Left tendencies followed by many years of movement to be a Blairite centrist.

    Question – was this a cynical exercise in doing what was needed to get into a position of power?

    I’d like to think it was a gradual realisation that Socialism is a road to nowhere, and that the best way to get the poor out of poverty is through the market economy.

    Here’s another proponent of that idea.

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  12. JohnC says:

    Henry Kissinger: Divisive diplomat who shaped world affairs
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19872410

    So Kissenger has died and as I read the BBC article, it was very clear they do not like him. Not knowing much about him, I decided to see if my suspicions were correct.

    And – of course – in matters like this on the BBC, they always are.

    First thing is I see Kissenger was a Republican. Explains everything.

    We get a tirade of what can only be called hate from the BBC. What kind of way is this to describe such a statesman who just died ?.

    ‘A committed practitioner of “realism” in foreign relations, he was both awarded the Nobel Peace Prize and roundly condemned as a war criminal.’

    ‘But what his supporters described as “Realpolitik” his critics condemned as immoral.’

    ‘He was accused of – at the very least – tacit support for the bloody coup that overturned a leftist government in Chile’

    And as if it’s all the proof we need, the BBC write:
    ‘On hearing that Kissinger had been awarded the Nobel Prize, the comedian Tom Lehrer famously declared that “political satire is obsolete”.’

    Lehrer I learned from Google was a self-proclaimed “earnest liberal” and helped campaign for Eugene McCarthy (A Democrat).

    I also found:
    ‘When Weingarten asked if there was anything he could print for the record, Lehrer responded “Just tell the people that I am voting for Obama.”‘

    So the BBC have used a joke by a Left-Wing comedian against the Republican Kissenger as an attempt to smear the man in his obiturary.

    I don’t know or care too much about Kissenger – what I do care about is that the BBC should not be showing their hatred so clearly in articles like this about people on the Right who just died. They should show some respect.

    The BBC are now absolute, complete and utter left-wing activist scum. Unfortunately the author of this piece remains anonymous so we can’t put a face to the hate.

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  13. Guest Who says:

    Reeling in the audience as ever.

    https://x.com/bbcr4today/status/1730293982247145588?s=61
    ‘I was the guarantor for my brother… I’ve got things on credit for my friends’
    Labour’s Angela Rayner sits down with Amol and Nick on the latest Today Podcast to discuss why young people are struggling to get housing

    Makes Newsnight seem like The Morecombe & Wise Show.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Guest – meesh on toady was in Edinburgh on a royal visit yesterday . It seems snp policy is to make being a landlord as difficult as possible . As the rental market dies up goes the prices …
      When socialists try to kill capitalism it leaves people homeless …. But they vote SNP – so lump it ..

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    • Lucy Pevensey says:

      John,
      It’s unfair to call the BBC scum. Unfair to scum which can be cleansed and rinsed away.

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      • JohnC says:

        lol.

        I assure you I don’t use that word lightly Lucy. But they have no ethics whatsoever about what tricks they will do or say to push their own agenda and discredit those they disagree with.

        So much for ‘unbiased and impartial’. It’s precisely why we should not be forced to fund them.

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  14. atlas_shrugged says:

    Russia limits women’s access to abortion

    https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2023/11/28/russia-limits-womens-access-to-abortion-citing-demographic-changes

    and I thought ooooh the bBC won’t like that and sure enough:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-67495969

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  15. G.W.F. says:

    BBC explains the climate conference for us thickos
    “Klaatu barada nikto”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-67557533

    ”Imagine for a moment that you are an alien visiting the Earth.

    You discover the planet faces a potential catastrophe caused by the actions of the people living there.

    The first thing that alien would say is: “You guys all need to get together and agree how to sort this out”.

    But making progress is tough going.

    You may be surprised to discover that the first time that the world collectively agreed to cut the greenhouse gas emissions that cause climate change was only eight years ago, at COP21 in Paris.

    Nearly 200 countries pledged to keep global temperature rises “well below” 2C and “pursue efforts” to limit them to 1.5C – crucial to avoiding the most dangerous climate impacts, according to UN scientists.

    That Paris agreement in 2015 was a big step forward and has triggered “near-universal climate action”, the UN says. This has helped bring down the level of warming the world can expect.

    But the world is still not acting at anywhere near the pace needed to achieve the Paris goals, a recent UN report confirmed.

    Trying to address this will be one of the biggest issues for the conference.”

    —————
    Duh… thank you BBC for your explanation

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  16. Guest Who says:

    https://x.com/nickbryantny/status/1729950947634491750?s=61
    Newsnight is a key reason why so many of us became BBC journalists. It was so central to the brand. It’s sad to see its demise.

    Leaving aside whatever he became, a journalist was not it, the comments….

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    • Fedup2 says:

      I do wonder if bought creatures like Bryant read the comments …. Those in the BB`c have not a clue how poor their product is – and how stupid they think we are…

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  17. tomo says:

    Elon goes all GFY

    https://twitter.com/IncMonocle/status/1730154424557859134

    Disney, Apple and Comcast should be kowtowed to – the BBC thinks…

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Judging by the way things are going Elon will sell X to the UAE …all that oil profit has to go somewhere …apart from the prem league or COP …

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    • Lucy Pevensey says:

      I was reading earlier this evening that Disney’s new film was a flop over the Thanksgiving weekend. It didn’t even break even. Now they’ve aggravated the owner of valuable advertising space as well.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Lucy – I’m assuming it was a woke plot which every one at Disney thought was ‘great’ until the punters said ‘ no ‘.
        Go woke – go broke …

        .. apparently Netflix has a kidult series so bad it’s’ good …

        If any one is looking for a quality science documentary- try James Burke ‘connections; free on YouTube – from a time when the bbc was the bbc …

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  18. Guest Who says:

    A small nightcap.

    https://x.com/guardiannews/status/1730347246171140418?s=61
    Dismay as Mehdi Hasan’s MSNBC and Peacock news show cancelled

    As in, ‘dis may come as no surprise outside the Graun bubble’.

    Wonder where the odious little creep will haul up next?

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  19. StewGreen says:

    Nihal the man who says his work colleagues need to be in the 13% community he is in

    LizKershawDJ (One of the redpilled ex BBC)
    Radio 5 Live presenter Nihal Arthanayake says his mental health is affected by the overwhelmingly white working environment at BBC
    Some facts
    UK working age population 2022: ethnic people 13%
    #BBC workforce 2022: ethnic people 15%
    #Radio5Live: 6am-6pm: ethnic presenters 25%

    Paul Joseph Watson
    The BBC is only 58% white, far lower than UK national demographics (82% white),
    yet
    Nihal still says he’s depressed because “all I see is white people.”

    @andrewlawrence
    Most people I’ve shared working environments with are non-ginger, Nihal.
    But I’m not about to piss my pants over it in public like you do, demanding special treatment because I look different.

    Nihal has form ..This from January 2023

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  20. taffman says:

    “Covid inquiry: Lockdown should have been three weeks earlier – Hancock”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67576784

    Questions : Do lockdowns work ?
    Do face masks work ? Maybe these questions should be included in the Covid Enquiry?
    Far more important !
    Sweden?

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  21. taffman says:

    “Asylum seekers: Home Office says more than 17,000 are missing”
    Could this be deliberate ?

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  22. StewGreen says:

    “I don’t get Ireland,
    in the 70’s they were blowing everything up over being a different type of Christian,
    … now they are being taken over by a foreign religion and no questions asked.”

    sayd Ian Rons

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  24. JohnC says:

    Released Palestinians allege abuse in Israeli jails
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67581915

    I saw this headline and was immediately disgusted by the BBC running such a story at this time. Just who do they think these people are ?. Decent Gazans who just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time or terrorists actively acting against Israel ?.

    So to treat their statements as if they are fact like this is simply outrageous.

    Let’s take the main story :
    ‘Mohammed Nazzal says he was beaten by Israeli prison guards’

    ‘He had been held in custody in Nafha Prison without charge since August, and says he does not know why he was arrested.’

    Yes he f*cking does BBC and you know he does. Sorry for swearing but that is such a clear lie, it makes my blood boil that the BBC give it credit.

    But the best is yet to come:

    ‘The family showed us medical reports and X-rays from Palestinian doctors in Ramallah who examined Mohammed after he was released on Monday.

    We showed the X-ray pictures to two doctors in the UK, who confirmed that they showed fractures in both hands. It was no surprise to Mohammed.’

    Why not show us those X-rays BBC ?. Because they would be the ONLY evidence in the wh

    Here are poor Mohammed’s hands:
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    Now I’m no expert but those bandages are absolutely fresh. And why with bandages for such a significant BBC article ?. Why not show his swollen and bruised broken fingers ?.

    And the video shows they had no actual open injuries – so why bandage them up like that at all ?.

    Here’s why. Israel released a video of him getting on the bus with his hands unbandaged. Go to the video to 0:34 and you can clearly see him put his hand on the rail as he gets on the bus. No way he would do that if he had the injuries the BBC claim.

    So their entire story is blown by that one frame of video. But they ran it anyway – presumably because they had put so much work into it.

    But the best bit of all is where they say this:

    ‘In the footage, the teenager’s hands are unbandaged, and appear to be hanging by his sides – including as he climbs onto the bus – but are out of shot for most of the video.’

    Not ‘appear to be hanging by his sides BBC’. They are. And what has ‘out of shot for most of the video’ got to do with it apart from to play down it’s significance ?. All the evidence we need that he is lying is right there in that one touch of the rail

    This is one of the most outrageous, blatant lies by the BBC I’ve ever seen. No way they don’t know he is lying. Yet they ran it anyway.

    Let’s see the lowlife liar who write this one: Lucy Williamson
    lucy-williamson-1fee5f6b

    Who I see from google has already been accused of Leftist bias.

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  25. AsISeeIt says:

    If there’s one thing more likely to turn one’s stomach over breakfast – more that is than those many repeated pictures of Shane McGowan’s dentistry, or lack thereof – then it’s in the left-leaning ‘i’ newspaper: Labour: EU will be our number one priority for foreign policy… says David Lammy… Starmer has ‘strong chemistry’ with Macron, he adds

    The pound shop junior Guardian that is the ‘i’ likes to live roughly twleve months into our political future, in a land-to-be where Labour already rules the roost, and the failed 14-year Tory-Blairite-liberal project is vulnerable to an actual conservative takeover: How the Tories can stop Nigel Farage takeover – opines Sebastian Payne

    We know the diversity-hire shadow foreign secretary scores low on foreign affairs, geography, history and general knowledge: Cringe-worthy moment new shadow foreign secretary said the 2003 Rose Revolution took place in Yugoslavia and Marie Antoinette won the Nobel Prize: David Lammy’s unfortunate answers to Celebrity Mastermind in 2009 resurface as he is given new role (Daily Mail)

    Think of Labour’s own David, now shadowing the Tory Baron Call-Me-Dave, as somewhat of a reincarnation of Sam Cooke

    Don’t know much about history
    Don’t know much biology
    Don’t know much about a science book
    Don’t know much about the French I took

    He’s not big on basic observation either: Labour’s David Lammy is mocked for saying ‘we haven’t seen any police’ as he blasts ‘vanishing’ neighbourhood policing… while a beat bobby hoves into view over his shoulder (Daily Mail) – the copper will be the one in the bright yellow high-viz jacket and the tall pointy hat, Dave. As they tend to say at this time of year in pantomime – he’s behind you!

    But if all that were forgivable his characterisation of some Starmer-Macron bromance having ‘chemistry‘ is fantastical phantasmagorical magic-thinking and cringe-making in the extreme.

    The words chemistry and Sir Keir just don’t gell. It’s Mr stuffed-shirt adenoidal-voiced piggy-eyed personality by-pass we speak of here.

    Mr AsI is of course assuredly right-handed, bats for the home team, tends to garden downhill and only licks the stamp on the regular approved side. However, he can admit the little Napoleon across the water has a certain je ne sais quoi about him. That’s as far as Mr AsI would go. Whereas one can only envisage Macron’s reaction to our Starmer as a resounding “Not tonight, Joe… sephine

    Speaking of Frenchness and chemistry we pause here to explain poor old Dave Lammy on his Celebrity Mastermind appearance (there was a victory of hubris over good sense) obviously mistook guillotined French Queen Marie Antoinette for French physicist and chemist Madame Curie.

    The only ‘chemistry‘ we discern in terms of Sir Keir is that which he has had repeatedly with Mrs Lady Sir Keir – I refer of course to the veritable chemistry lab’s worth of covid testing they’ve shared: Keir Starmer self-isolates for 6th time after positive Covid test (i news, January 2022) – the bathroom medicine cabinet at chez Starmer during Lockdown must have been reminiscent of a scene from the Wuhan Lab.

    By the way, the PLOCI – Pro-Lockdown Official Covid Inquiry has just delivered their first real money shot to our eagerly awaiting mainstream media: Lockdown should have happened three weeks earlier – Hancock (BBC)

    So we have the sooner. Now for the harder and longer. Giving our Sir Keir his royal flush, so to speak.

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    • Zephir says:

      He actually said “strong chemistry” which brings to mind concentrated acid…. or adding sodium metal to water

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  26. friend of yogi bear says:

    Bbc “top talent” Nick( l’ve seen the wallpaper) Robinson doing a stint on the ever popular Today programme ,chatting to another bbc chap about Megans xmas album ,or some such book. He rather pompously announced that the bbc would NOT name the apparently named Royals ,who allegedly might have said something, that some people might interpret as racist about a child’s skin tone. Unfortunately his mate wasn’t paying attention and immediately named them. I nearly choked on my porridge, what a pair of clowns…

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  27. friend of yogi bear says:

    I forgot to mention, thanks to tomo for posting up the not very recent picture of Owen Jones. Has he been contemplating legal action about something or other since childhood?
    Poor little fellow , what can we do to cheer the poor lad up.

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    • tomo says:

      AI has its uses! – I reckon you’ll need vetting and a license for the software not too far into the future.

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  28. JohnC says:

    Head teacher says autistic student died despite family’s plea for support
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67526409

    ‘Isaac Uzoegbu, 16, was hit by a car after he ran from his house into the road. His parents were struggling to manage as his behaviour became increasingly out of control.’

    On what planet can the fault for that happening be blamed on anyone except the parents at home ?. ‘Our planet’ it seems (or more specifically, just the UK bit of it) when the person doing the accusing looks like this:

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    ‘Experts have told BBC News that autistic children are far more likely to flee and put themselves in danger if they feel overwhelmed. Too often local authorities fail to recognise the risks and ways to manage a child’s behaviour, they say.’

    What ‘experts’ are they BBC ?. The activist kind ?. Did they mention the parents responsibility at all ?.

    Brought to you by another one of the BBC’s finest: Ruth Clegg

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    Who would have no purpose whatsoever on this world without Leftists activism and the BBC to pay her.

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  29. atlas_shrugged says:

    For those wondering if our beloved *anychess* might be going the same direction as our hated bBC. Try this little experiment:

    1) Find the NHS website and search box

    2) Type in: Myocarditis
    Confirm: No results found for Myocarditis

    3) Type in: Gender dysphoria
    Observe loads of results for a rare condition

    4) Queue Marky saying lying is an act of Omission

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  30. Zephir says:

    Regarding FO Yogi Bear’s comment about Megan “Nutmeg”s Xmas album.
    I understand it will be cover versions only:

    “Fred Astaire and Jane Powell- How Can You Believe Me When I Say I Love You When You Know I’ve Been a Liar All My Life?”

    “Limp Bizkit – “You’re gonna pay”

    “Rip Her To Shreds – Blondie”

    “I’ll Be Glad When You’re Dead You
    Rascal You – Louis Armstrong”

    “Metallica, Here Comes Revenge”

    “Pity Party” by Melanie Martinez

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  31. Fedup2 says:

    Toady
    I think ‘Lucy Williamson ‘ is trying take over the Hamas spokesman from Jeremy bowen . …she put out a long long piece on the inevitable allegations being made by Palestinians being released from Israeli jails .

    She really went to work on the propaganda piece . I was expecting her to ask why these creatures survived prison at all ?

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  32. Fedup2 says:

    Toady
    Going big on the racist king taking his suitcases to the UAE to refil with reddies…. I don’t understand why the BBC is nt demanding the king abdicates and that the princess of wales steps down from public office because of her racism – Msybd comrade Robinson will use the tactics he used to depose nut nut – putting out negatives Every Day about partygate ….

    As for cop wotsit – no china – no america – that’s got to be 60% of output – so a woke tickbox talking shop thank god …

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  33. Zephir says:

    I am still waiting for the report from the Royal Family about how diversity has enriched their institution after a black girl joined.

    At the very least, one could measure this by the guaranteed positive headlines that this bold move must have generated?

    er…

    maybe put that one on the back burner.

    Maybe it is in the regional news in the bbc alongside the latest muslim rape gangs convicted, and various other crimes where a (racist) photo has revealed ethnicity.

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  34. Fedup2 says:

    From the DT – apparently working class people think the BBC is ‘woke ‘ … not sure what the definition of ‘working class ‘ is now – perhaps it’s people who still pay the licence tax ….

    STARTS
    Working-class audiences find the BBC too politically correct and lacking in “unvarnished opinion”, an Ofcom study has found.

    Programmes were deemed too “dry and serious”, while popular sitcoms had been replaced by “cringey” attempts at Gen Z humour. Viewers missed the likes of Ricky Gervais and Jeremy Clarkson, the regulator said.

    Research found that the broadcaster is considered out of touch on presenter pay and its portrayal of working-class characters can be “stereotypical or tokenistic”.

    The regulator carried out the survey of people from working-class and lower-income households after becoming concerned that only 55 per cent of them have a positive opinion of the BBC in Ofcom surveys, compared to 67 per cent of middle-class professionals.

    Ofcom said: “A key issue, raised by a number of people that we spoke to, was that BBC programming is increasingly seen as dry and serious compared to other PSB channels [public service broadcasters such as ITV] and the major streaming services.

    “BBC content was also seen as increasingly ‘safe’ and, by some, overly politically correct.

    The shift was seen as having a particularly negative effect on the BBC’s comedy output. Many of our participants felt the BBC used to produce world-leading comedy content but that this is now often seen as not edgy enough for modern tastes.

    “They miss the ‘fun’ element of the BBC’s programming.”

    BBC aware of the concern
    BBC commissioners told Ofcom that they were aware of this concern.

    On the subject of representation, many of those surveyed said there was little representation of their real lives on television, and of working-class people in programmes.

    On presenter pay, Ofcom said: “The reported salaries of some BBC presenters contributed to a sense that the BBC is out of touch with ordinary people, particularly during a cost-of-living crisis.”

    Requiring presenters to “toe the party line” and not speak freely, Ofcom said, meant that “the BBC was seen as unable to keep pace with the kinds of unvarnished opinion that the people that we spoke to said they sought out from video sharing platforms, social media and established commercial radio stations.”

    One presenter who has spoken his mind is Nihal Arthanayake, the Radio 5 Live presenter who this week said that his mental health was affected by his “overwhelmingly white” working environment.

    In response to the comments, made at a journalism diversity conference, a BBC spokesperson told The Telegraph: “Events like this one are instrumental in bringing new talent in as we work towards making our organisation as inclusive as possible.

    “We want everyone who works at the BBC – and those considering a career with us – to know we are focused on creating an inclusive culture where everyone feels they belong.

    “We believe we should be setting the highest standards on diversity and we recognise that there is still more we could do, therefore we have clear plans in place to improve the diversity of our workforce.”

    People have left ‘because they couldn’t deal with the culture’
    The presenter, who is of Sri Lankan descent, told the conference at the BBC’s headquarters in Salford that he had seen “a lot of people leave this building because they couldn’t deal with the culture”.

    He claimed that his colleagues’ response when he told them this was to reply defensively that they were not being racist, as he added that this response was missing the point.

    Speaking at the event’s “Fireside chat” with Jo Adetunji, editor of The Conversation UK, Mr Arthanayake also said he doesn’t think there is “a single Muslim” involved in the senior editorial processes at BBC Radio 5 Live.

    He went on: “The hardest thing is to walk into a room, look around and nobody looks like you.”

    His criticism of the corporation’s diversity during Wednesday’s conference has enlisted a backlash online with comments suggesting that if the same was said about a minority group, it would be branded as racism.

    The latest BBC workforce diversity figures, according to the media watchdog Ofcom’s annual report, shows that between 2020-21 and 2021-22 the total number of minority ethnic people working at the corporation increased from 13 to 15 per cent.

    This stands as above average to the working age population of the UK from 2021-2022, in which 13 per cent were recorded as being from minority ethnic groups.

    A BBC spokesman said: “The BBC reaches more adults from low socio-economic groups than any other provider and Ofcom has welcomed the BBC’s ongoing efforts to increase representation and deliver more authentic portrayal across its output. We will continue to work hard to deliver a mix of brilliant content on TV, radio and online that reflects and represents everyone in the UK.”ENDS

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    • MarkyMark says:

      “The hardest thing is to walk into a room, look around and nobody looks like you.

      ……………..

      Comment by Danni, South Africa
      Each person is entitled to their own religion, belief or culture, but when that same thinking such as witchcraft in South Africa, encourages people to rape three-month-old babies to ‘cure’ them of HIV, people should rethink their views.

      http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/4705201.stm

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  35. Zephir says:

    @F2

    A translation for you:

    A bbc spokesman said, : “we are not listening to white, male, heterosexual, Brexit loving bigots and we do not care”

    This has recently been ammended on their website to:

    “A bbc spokeswimmin said….”

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  36. MarkyMark says:

    “Water companies, football clubs, half of London, nuclear reactors all foreign owned, so what’s so special about a Telegraph which lost my respect years ago?”
    order-order.com

    …………….

    Saudi crown prince asked Boris Johnson to intervene in Newcastle United bid
    This article is more than 2 years old
    Mohammed bin Salman warned of damage to Saudi-UK relations if Premier League refusal not ‘corrected’
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/15/saudis-asked-boris-johnson-to-intervene-in-newcastle-united-bid

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  37. markh says:

    Small beer perhaps but a large banner on the BBC webshite is telling me the correct way to de-ice my car. FFS don’t you have anything better to do with your time BBC? F-ck off and take your bloody nannying with you.

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Cars are evil – ban them all!

         4 likes

    • moggiemoo says:

      Was it anything like setting fire to it? Clears the ice, guarantees it won’t happen again, saves a lot of money in fuel, tax, insurance, maintenance and it’d make you a hero in the eyes of the climate change loony brigade. What’s not to like?

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  38. Johnda says:

    News night cut down to half an hour. Which is half an hour too long.
    The left have gone into overdrive on Twitter complaint being bbc has gone to the right. I suppose any move away from far left is right.
    It’s good to see so much angst from the left

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  39. tomo says:

    No, not a cult….

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  40. Sluff says:

    In the Daily Mail today, a report from OFCOM that the BBC are out of touch with the working class.

    Perfect timing. In yesterday’s trailer for Question Time, Fiona ‘undertaker’ Bruce referred to the programme coming from Doncaster, which she pronounced DoncaRster.

    I don’t know anyone else who pronounces that new city’s name in that way. It can be DONcaster or DonCASter but never DoncaRster.

    Case proved, your honour.

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    • Terminal Moraine says:

      Sluff some months ago on R5 newsreader Karishma Patel referred to Hartlepool as ‘Hartel-pool’. UK media studies degrees will be focussing more on the Middle East than Middlesbrough (pronounced midd-lez-bro)

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    • StewGreen says:

      @Sluff it’s called Donny,
      .. just like Scunny

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      • StewGreen says:

        “Eyup lads and lasses. Welcom t’Question Time, we’re in Donny tonight

        Reet the first thing is we lord it over you northerner wassocks
        cos everyone on the stage is a southern tosser, ‘cept for Esther McVey “

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      • Sluff says:

        Stew
        And sometimes ‘Donnylike’.

        The thought of Fiona Bruce mentioning Donny or Donnylike is just too much……….

        Actually Donny is a great example of socialism in action. The centre now has a sort of ‘public sector square mile’ with brand new council offices, brand new vanity project museum and library, vanity theatre, plus law courts. It’s all pedestrianised and tends to be kept scrupulously clean. All that’s missing is barbed wire fencing round the perimeter, and ‘no riff raff’ signs.

        Out in the communities, life is shall we say somewhat different. 2 bed terrace for under £85k anyone?

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    • JohnC says:

      I bet at least 75% of BBC staff are unable to check their tyre pressures, oil level or other basic skills for normal life.

      The figure is 100% if they are called ‘Vine’.

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  41. Zephir says:

    If you want to know the time, ask a policemen

    If you want to know the news, ask anyone except the bbc, headline photo today a crying muslim woman {what a surprise)

    Meanwhile…elsewhere, a baying mob of muslims, what a surprise..

    ” Israeli Mia Schem was operated on by a VET while held by Hamas, her aunt reveals – contradicting the terror group’s propaganda – after the hostage was released in front of a baying mob yesterday

    Schem, 21, was seen recovering from surgery in a Hamas proof of life video
    She was released yesterday before the resumption of hostilities in Gaza ”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12813533/Israeli-Mia-Schem-operated-VET-held-Hamas-aunt-reveals-contradicting-terror-groups-propaganda-hostage-released-baying-mob-yesterday.html

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  42. StewGreen says:

    Jim Dale is a crazy Global Warming alarmist, who runs a one man band weather company
    He is frequently aired on GBnews as if he is a Climate expert
    but doesn’t do well in actual debate, so now he demands his opposers are banned.

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  43. Fedup2 says:

    Bit rich

    Charles Windsor tells that ‘the world doesn’t belong to us ‘… well his family has owned and controlled big lumps of it for a very long time – and still owns big chunks ….

    …meanwhile we ( plebs ) suffer the effect of green crap policies such as expensive heating – high taxes – suppression of freedom ….. burn those hydrocarbons ….

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  44. StewGreen says:

    Who broke the ceasefire ?
    The BBC local radio news didn’t tell us directly
    Instead they put the item at #3 . so that does tell us, it wasn’t the Israelis.

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    • Guest Who says:

      BBC is out of control. Or, rather under the control of a very corrupt/ed bunch.

      https://melaniephillips.substack.com/p/the-devastating-hamas-weapon-of-war?

      The most important serial offender is the BBC.

      Now I am prepared to hear any sensible counter claims that involve discussing these specific allegations.
      Not whataboutery about other stuff.

      That is what impartiality is about.

      And the parked or purged output of now promoted sideways senior Beeboids to make way for idiotic young ingenues parroting stuff from their cubicle garden colleagues’ quick surf of WhatsHamas and TikTokBoom videos from deranged blondes ain’t it.

      If Davie is serious about getting on top of things he is doing a p*ss poor job for his MegaSal&Pension up to now.

      Maybe bring back Hugs? She of the complaints email to nowhere.

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      • Guest Who says:

        BBC Moaning emole from the embedded soi boi.

        Violent end to Israel-Hamas truce

        That is rather what happens when fighting restarts. But who, Iain, kicked off first after hostages were no longer released?

        Explosions and gunfire in Gaza again as week-long truce ends

        No rockets? or did BBC ‘correspondents’ again not notice?

        A seven-day ceasefire in Gaza has come to an abrupt end in the past few hours, with Israel striking targets and reports of fatalities in Rafah and Gaza City.

        So, Israel started it Iain? According to ‘reports’ to your cubicle in W1A?

        Our Middle East correspondent Hugo Bachega says sirens sounded in southern Israel shortly before the ceasefire expired and the Israeli army announced that it had intercepted a rocket launched from Gaza by Hamas.

        Ah, Hugs clarifies, as Gaza Mud Editor. You don’t know, do you? Or didn’t find out? Or found out and preferred the order above?

        Both sides are accusing the other of violating the terms of the truce.

        Well, duh. Which is what impartial reporting is for. The BBC is neither.

        The pause in the fighting allowed for the release of 110 hostages held by Hamas and 240 Palestinian prisoners held by Israel.

        In… a week. And did Hamas not start dragging feet, which seems apt given how tricky it seems to be too get 110… hostages out, in 7 days.

        But Hugo says the renewed hostility is likely to worsen the humanitarian crisis in Gaza amid shortages of essential supplies.

        Hugo says that, does Hugo? Based on what? Likelyhoodism?

        Hugo should go far.

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      • Terminal Moraine says:

        How much airtime will the MSM be giving to this?

        #BREAKING: Hamas leader in Gaza Yahya Sinwar in his first publicized statements since launching Al Aqsa Floods campaign: "The leaders of the Occupation should know, October 7th was just a rehearsal" pic.twitter.com/YBPNHiPdbK— Gaza Report – اخبار غزة (@gaza_report) November 30, 2023

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  45. Dickie says:

    Headline – “The sordid state of the medical system here in the UK is laid bare in excruciating detail in a recent Daily Mail article which chooses to perpetuate myths and disinformation rather than engage in genuine reporting.”

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/first-do-harm-a-sorry-tale-in-the-daily-mail/

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  46. tomo says:

    One wonders if getting onto a two wheeled vehicle switches off some folks brains?

       4 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      Green Kamikaze cyclists and scooterers could have won the war for the Nazis. Has Mac looked into it?

         6 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      Looks painful and one can only wish for them a speedy recovery.

      And that any here program their head-circling GoPos for alerts when out showing Femi and Dr. Shola that bike riding in the UK is not just for urban white saviours.

         4 likes

    • atlas_shrugged says:

      Clearly this German cyclist had been listening too much to German government propaganda that his cycleway was ‘Safe and Effective’ despite the evidence of his own eyes.

         3 likes

  47. StewGreen says:

    The world ended 6 years ago according to Charles the Global Warming activist

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    • Guest Who says:

      Using Chas The Stupid as an icon seems at best optimistic by the idiot classes.

      Oh, here’s the next ‘story’ in the emole series…

      World leaders will soon hear from King Charles at COP28

      China and India’s gave a pass again, leader wise?

      King Charles to call for climate ‘turning point’ at COP28

      The BBC loves a good #callsfor.

      JusRol enjoying the sheeps’ eyeballs ?

      All eyes at the COP28 climate conference, all eyes are on King Charles as he gives an opening address this morning.

      Just not many from the two most populous carbon emitters on the planet.

      In his first major speech on climate change since becoming monarch, the King is expected to appeal to world leaders for greater action and accountability.

      A limit appeal, clearly.

      After a year of record temperatures, the pressure is on for them to limit the damage to our warming world.

      Record? Historic? Or ‘unprecedented’? Measurements at the jet blast area of the private jet section at Dubai airport?

      So what influence will the King’s intervention have on the decision-makers who hold our future in their hands?

      Between zero and net zero, but 77,000 ‘leaders’ and… ‘our future’ Iain?

      Utterriggedtoolism is a scourge.

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    • MarkyMark says:

      Save his marriage?

         1 likes

  48. Terminal Moraine says:

    Paul Mason writes a very long post about his entry into Newsnight and its subsequent decline:

    “When I started at Newsnight, the interview was like a PhD viva, if your PhD was about every random aspect of business and economics. They asked me to bring 10x original story ideas and ruthlessly ripped every one of them to shreds – and then said: give us another one. I had a permanent job as an editorial manager at Reed Elsevier and they offered me a 3 month contract on less money. I took it because I knew I was joining the most accomplished team of broadcast journalists in Britain, and possibly the world. I am talking levels of excellence associated with the Berlin Phil in music, or certain Oxbridge/Imperial teams in science” [cont’d…]
    ——————————

    Best reply: “Don’t be silly. They checked if you were a communist and bingo you were in.”

    https://x.com/paulmasonnews/status/1730227598544830646?s=20

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    • Guest Who says:

      Didn’t he get all excited about that Greek Xmas activist back in the day, when he acquired the Anger & Protests handle?

      Given relative outputs of each recently,,,, awks at the Xmas bash now.

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