About 77% of homes in the eastern state of Jharkhand have no toilet facilities, while the figure is 76.6% for Orissa and 75.8% in Bihar. All three are among India’s poorest states with huge populations which live on less than a dollar a day.
I have to admit that I know many older people and some not so old who grew up in homes with an outside toilet and no toilet inside the home. Gas lighting, no central heating, coal fire, and just a cold tap.
We did however have plenty of public toilets so people weren’t just ‘going’ in the streets.
Well I got racially abused by some black people a while ago so wish I was there so I could punch the black race baiting gobshite on the nose very hard and tell her there you go, I have MY justice now…
BBC showing it’s true colours – from the DT – enjoy –
STARTS The BBC is under fire after cutting short an interview with Angela Rayner over whether she broke the electoral law amid “concerns” from Labour staffers.
On Friday, Newsnight’s political editor Nick Watt admitted editing an interview he conducted with the Labour deputy leader three weeks ago to remove a comparison between the row over her former council house and the “Beergate” saga.
In the clip omitted from the original broadcast, Mr Watt asked Ms Rayner if she would consider her position untenable if it turned out she was in the wrong, just as Sir Keir Starmer had pledged to resign if he was fined over claims he broke Covid rules in “Beergate”.
Speaking live on Friday’s programme, he said the decision to cut the exchange was made for a “good editorial reason”. But he also admitted that Labour’s team had raised “concerns” after the interview that the “Beergate” comparison was unfair, as Ms Rayner was not under police investigation at the time.
Greg Smith, the Conservative MP for Buckingham, said licence fee payers who “expect impartiality” will “want answers” as to why the broadcaster made the edit when “virtually every media outlet is focusing on this story”.
The broadcaster aired the clip for the first time on Friday after Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said it had launched an investigation into claims Ms Rayner wrongly declared which house was her permanent address on the electoral roll, which is a criminal offence.
Ms Rayner has also faced questions about whether she should have paid capital gains tax on the 2015 sale of her council house owing to the confusion over whether it was her principal residency.
‘A good editorial reason at the time’
She and Sir Keir Starmer had called on Boris Johnson to quit when police launched an investigation into him over “Partygate”. They both also said they would resign if they were charged over the so-called “Beergate”, where the Labour leader and colleagues drank beer and had a takeaway curry after a campaigning event in April 2021 when most indoor gatherings were banned.
Since the Newsnight interview, Ms Rayner has promised to resign if she is found to have broken the law. But she insists she “followed the rules at all times”.
In the segment of the interview that had been cut, Ms Rayner had refused to commit to resigning if she was found to have committed an offence and said: “Well, I’ve had the expert advice and I do not owe any capital gains tax on that property.”
Explaining the decision to edit the interview, Mr Watt said on Friday: “Now, on that final exchange we just saw between me and Angela Rayner, where I was drawing that comparison between where we are today and the so-called “Beergate” issue two or three years ago, I decided at the time for editorial reasons that we shouldn’t run that.
“Now inevitably, you can’t run all of an interview – you have to make cuts. But for transparency, I should say that the Labour team did after the interview raise concerns about that exchange.
“They essentially said they didn’t really see how you could make a comparison between a commitment Keir Starmer had given two years ago after the police announced they were going to investigate him and Angela Rayner’s position after the police said they would not investigate her.
“Because of course when I interviewed Angela Rayner, the police had said they would not be investigating this matter. So look, it was a different situation then, good editorial reason at the time not to include that exchange. But obviously, things changed today with that statement.”
He added: “This provides quite an interesting glimpse into the world of relations between political broadcasters and political parties. It’s quite normal for a political party – doesn’t happen every time – that they raise concerns about an interview.
“They sometimes do that after a live interview, they sometimes do it after an interview that was recorded before the programme went on air, and that’s what happened in this case.
“So bearing that in mind and taking the whole interview in a round, I made that editorial decision. But obviously in light of today’s statement, today’s development, which is that police statement, and what Angela Rayner has said, we think that that exchange from that interview should be aired.”
A BBC spokesman said: “Nick Watt transparently explained the full situation to viewers on Friday’s Newsnight, including the fact that it’s normal to make editorial decisions about what is and isn’t used from a pre-recorded interview.
“This was a forensic and challenging interview in which Angela Rayner was asked in detail about her tax affairs. When the situation changed, including the police decision to investigate, we broadcast this exchange. We’ve covered this story impartially throughout.”
Mr Smith told The Telegraph: “Given virtually every media outlet is focusing on this story it is at best ‘odd’ the BBC would cut the interview short and hard-pressed licence feepayers who expect impartiality will want answers as to exactly why.
“The fact it has taken a police investigation to start to get the full interview speaks volumes in itself.”
In March, GMP said Ms Rayner would not face an investigation. However, it was forced to reassess its decision after James Daly, a Conservative MP, complained that officers appeared not to have contacted witnesses or looked at the electoral roll, deeds and other relevant documents.
On Friday, a GMP spokesman said: “We’re investigating whether any offences have been committed. This follows a reassessment of the information provided to us by Mr Daly.”ENDS
You can guess the comments about this – but I guess no one noticed because no one watches Newsnight any more – Nickolas Watt – the political editor at newsnight – cannot be more devalued can he?
One for verify – the – lie ….
I’m guessing Mr Watt will become the labour PM press spokesman – comrade …
Despicable club with the worst supporters out there. Always someone else’s fault of course and woe betide anyone who suggests otherwise. I hear they boo the National Anthem too.
Probably still debating now they might be deemed ‘mostly peaceful… objects’.
Seeing some clowns trying to suggest again (h/t Mishal) that as the defensive system is proving effective, what’s all the fuss about a few exploding rockets?
Send Kate Adie to Iran, then they bloody well know they’re in trouble, they’ll all be running for the bomb shelters when they see her in front of a camera.
In the dark ages, local tyrants taxed the peasants. Now, under the ‘green guise’, Khan is simply taking money and returning no benefit. He is from a culture which supports control and oppression. https://t.co/IR7sKfFGCIpic.twitter.com/zCsjRFA5yy
The whole thing was set up under Obama, the pretext the initial strike package etc, and the you might remember when Trump was elected the USAF flew a global hawk drone aircraft into Iranian airspace when it was legally shot down.
The Democrat Hawks came to Trump with the strike package already conceived, but Trump asked the $64000 question what is the end result and the hawks didn’t have an answer. He then asked if any Americans had been killed to which the answer was none, so he refused.
He did however authorise the strike which killed the Iranian warrior Sulemani, which was a mistake as Sulemani had partnered the Americans to defeat ISIS and was in the region fighting them.
It was a set up. The Democrats had an entire plan ready to cause war with Iran in the event Trump was elected and they tried to implement it not because it was of any import to America, but so they could get back at Trump, and that is how dangerous the Democrats are and the lengths they are prepared to go to.
https://x.com/bbcpolitics/status/1779447785206501495?s=61
“The ball is in Israel’s court”
BBC International Editor Jeremy Bowen says diplomatic sources have told him “it’s time to draw a line under this” after Iran’s attack was almost entirely repelled and that Israel should not escalate further.
Again with the ‘sources’.
The ‘escalate further’ is cute too.
As an armchair statespersonship trainee it does seem to me that taking the win might be the best play. Not just the military success, but the symbolism of the support garnered too. The PR has swung back.
But… boom boom toys at £1B a day can run out, or be analysed and circumvented. And it is not like Ayaytollahs are noted for their common sense.
Not so sure about that Western propaganda concerning the leaders of Iran.
The excercised restraint after the killing of Sulemani (sp?) firing a few missiles to make it look like they were responding so as not to lose face, and making sure they landed in the desert harmlessly
This time announcing to the world, hey we’ve fired a load of slow moving drones which will take 8 hours to get there followed by a load of slightly quicker missiles which will also take ages so you got plenty of time to prepare.
We don’t even know what the targets were if there even were any, because predictably none of them reached the destination.
I think underestimating any opponent is a bad mistake, I also think that there is a high probability of outside influence from Russia and China tempering the response.
On a seperate note, it might seem an odd move for the Biden Democrats to have lifted some of the sanctions on Iran, but it has meant that because they are supplying oil and gas to China, they have to keep the straits of Hormuz open, this has stopped oil and gas prices shooting to the moon and people in Europe dying in large numbers as a consequence.
This afternoon / evening from the the BBC
1) Article headlined: “Why has Iran attacked Israel?” in which the BBC frame the Iran drone and missile attack on Israel as a justified and measured retaliation against the aggressor state Israel. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68811276
3) Article headlined: “US tells Israel to ‘think carefully’ before Iran response” in which the BBC repeats the warning that the aggressor state Israel must not respond towards Iran’s justifiable retaliatory action. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68813496
4) Article headlined: “As Israel debates Iran attack response, can US and allies stop slide into all-out war?” in which the BBC explain how the US and allies are trying to prevent the aggressor state Israel from escalating the situation by warning Israel not to respond to Iran’s justifiable drone and missile attack on them. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68812884
5) Article headlined: “FM condemns attack on Israel and repeats ceasefire call” in which the BBC act as mouthpiece for the worlds leading statesman Humza Youzaf and repeats that this was a retaliatory action by Iran, warns Israel against responding, and demands Israel unilaterally cease all military activity in Gaza. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-68812837
Meanwhile what the BBC do not report:
Let's dispense with a few lies you will likely hear in the coming days:
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“London MP, with a constituency only 28 minutes away by Tube from Parliament, claims £12,041 for a second home. Sounds a straight-forward case in the long line of London MPs who had their expense claims widely publicised and heavily criticised during earlier this year? Except this time, there’s one difference.
“”We learned from Europe that appeasement doesn’t work. We don’t want the new Hitler in Iran to repeat what happened in Europe in the Middle East,” he said, referring to Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
As more putrid antics in medical research appears, the more the BBC ignores it.
We need to find out why Peter Daszak and EcoHealth had In-Q-Tel backing and why Nathan Wolfe (an obvious intelligence asset with links to Epstein/Maxwell, Boris Nikolic, and Bill Gates) was on their editorial board. This wasn’t mere scientific curiosity. It was spook stuff. https://t.co/jiopHPP2da
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By Pria Rai & Jasmine Sandhar
BBC Asian Network
Walking down the streets of Southall today, British Asians feel a lot more at home.
But in the 1970s, with the rise of racist attacks and the far-right National Front, West London could feel like a dangerous place to even set foot in.
And that was especially true for Asians such as Jaya Pathak’s parents.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-68779328
“We tend to forget this isn’t just South Asian history, this is British history. It’s such an important chapter.”
. .. . .
India census: Half of homes have phones but no toilets 14 March 2012
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-17362837
About 77% of homes in the eastern state of Jharkhand have no toilet facilities, while the figure is 76.6% for Orissa and 75.8% in Bihar. All three are among India’s poorest states with huge populations which live on less than a dollar a day.
^^ Guess India is better than London!
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I have to admit that I know many older people and some not so old who grew up in homes with an outside toilet and no toilet inside the home. Gas lighting, no central heating, coal fire, and just a cold tap.
We did however have plenty of public toilets so people weren’t just ‘going’ in the streets.
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Well, I suppose we don’t have people living on the central reservation of the M4 and pooping in the fast lane….
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Maybe we do, they just don’t last very long ?
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Certainly some “skid marks” produced.
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Ashley Allison, Obama-Biden & Biden-Harris Senior Campaign Advisor
https://www.wsb.com/speakers/ashley-allison/
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Well I got racially abused by some black people a while ago so wish I was there so I could punch the black race baiting gobshite on the nose very hard and tell her there you go, I have MY justice now…
And I am not guilty, I didn’t do it.
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Yup, I was there Zeps, and saw it all – you were certainly abused and they were unpleasant foreigners who were doing the abusing!
I’m sure we can find lots of other people to agree, like judges, policemen, the neighbours etc.!
I’ll get on to the BBC and aske them to verify everything too – I’m sure they will!
(Red Lion, 7.00 OK still? Mine’s a pint)!
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Stevenage Old Town ? see you there !
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BBC showing it’s true colours – from the DT – enjoy –
STARTS The BBC is under fire after cutting short an interview with Angela Rayner over whether she broke the electoral law amid “concerns” from Labour staffers.
On Friday, Newsnight’s political editor Nick Watt admitted editing an interview he conducted with the Labour deputy leader three weeks ago to remove a comparison between the row over her former council house and the “Beergate” saga.
In the clip omitted from the original broadcast, Mr Watt asked Ms Rayner if she would consider her position untenable if it turned out she was in the wrong, just as Sir Keir Starmer had pledged to resign if he was fined over claims he broke Covid rules in “Beergate”.
Speaking live on Friday’s programme, he said the decision to cut the exchange was made for a “good editorial reason”. But he also admitted that Labour’s team had raised “concerns” after the interview that the “Beergate” comparison was unfair, as Ms Rayner was not under police investigation at the time.
Greg Smith, the Conservative MP for Buckingham, said licence fee payers who “expect impartiality” will “want answers” as to why the broadcaster made the edit when “virtually every media outlet is focusing on this story”.
The broadcaster aired the clip for the first time on Friday after Greater Manchester Police (GMP) said it had launched an investigation into claims Ms Rayner wrongly declared which house was her permanent address on the electoral roll, which is a criminal offence.
Ms Rayner has also faced questions about whether she should have paid capital gains tax on the 2015 sale of her council house owing to the confusion over whether it was her principal residency.
‘A good editorial reason at the time’
She and Sir Keir Starmer had called on Boris Johnson to quit when police launched an investigation into him over “Partygate”. They both also said they would resign if they were charged over the so-called “Beergate”, where the Labour leader and colleagues drank beer and had a takeaway curry after a campaigning event in April 2021 when most indoor gatherings were banned.
Since the Newsnight interview, Ms Rayner has promised to resign if she is found to have broken the law. But she insists she “followed the rules at all times”.
In the segment of the interview that had been cut, Ms Rayner had refused to commit to resigning if she was found to have committed an offence and said: “Well, I’ve had the expert advice and I do not owe any capital gains tax on that property.”
Explaining the decision to edit the interview, Mr Watt said on Friday: “Now, on that final exchange we just saw between me and Angela Rayner, where I was drawing that comparison between where we are today and the so-called “Beergate” issue two or three years ago, I decided at the time for editorial reasons that we shouldn’t run that.
“Now inevitably, you can’t run all of an interview – you have to make cuts. But for transparency, I should say that the Labour team did after the interview raise concerns about that exchange.
“They essentially said they didn’t really see how you could make a comparison between a commitment Keir Starmer had given two years ago after the police announced they were going to investigate him and Angela Rayner’s position after the police said they would not investigate her.
“Because of course when I interviewed Angela Rayner, the police had said they would not be investigating this matter. So look, it was a different situation then, good editorial reason at the time not to include that exchange. But obviously, things changed today with that statement.”
He added: “This provides quite an interesting glimpse into the world of relations between political broadcasters and political parties. It’s quite normal for a political party – doesn’t happen every time – that they raise concerns about an interview.
“They sometimes do that after a live interview, they sometimes do it after an interview that was recorded before the programme went on air, and that’s what happened in this case.
“So bearing that in mind and taking the whole interview in a round, I made that editorial decision. But obviously in light of today’s statement, today’s development, which is that police statement, and what Angela Rayner has said, we think that that exchange from that interview should be aired.”
A BBC spokesman said: “Nick Watt transparently explained the full situation to viewers on Friday’s Newsnight, including the fact that it’s normal to make editorial decisions about what is and isn’t used from a pre-recorded interview.
“This was a forensic and challenging interview in which Angela Rayner was asked in detail about her tax affairs. When the situation changed, including the police decision to investigate, we broadcast this exchange. We’ve covered this story impartially throughout.”
Mr Smith told The Telegraph: “Given virtually every media outlet is focusing on this story it is at best ‘odd’ the BBC would cut the interview short and hard-pressed licence feepayers who expect impartiality will want answers as to exactly why.
“The fact it has taken a police investigation to start to get the full interview speaks volumes in itself.”
In March, GMP said Ms Rayner would not face an investigation. However, it was forced to reassess its decision after James Daly, a Conservative MP, complained that officers appeared not to have contacted witnesses or looked at the electoral roll, deeds and other relevant documents.
On Friday, a GMP spokesman said: “We’re investigating whether any offences have been committed. This follows a reassessment of the information provided to us by Mr Daly.”ENDS
You can guess the comments about this – but I guess no one noticed because no one watches Newsnight any more – Nickolas Watt – the political editor at newsnight – cannot be more devalued can he?
One for verify – the – lie ….
I’m guessing Mr Watt will become the labour PM press spokesman – comrade …
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Why would you change your name while buying a council house with a massive discount then change it back once the discount is secured ?
Answers on a recent by-election postal voting slip…
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See Pixie Brane made the mistake of not sticking with the safety of a BbC studio and excavated things nicely.
Seems even usually forgiving media are not buying Surkeer’s minions trying the ‘if he didn’t see it, it didn’t happen’ play.
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Great track record as a prosecutor… Jimmy Savile, muslim rape gangs etc etc
If he’s in charge she will never see D wing
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Spoiler alert – palace beat liverpool 0-1 . The bbc went big on the 35th anniversary of liverpooll fans killing 97 of their own ….
.. strangely the 39 juventus fans killed by liverpool ‘fans’ 38 years ago – nor the 600 injured at Heysel – got a mention at all by the BBC on 5 live
Looking like a crap season for liverpool – so good things do happen ..
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Liverpool fans have a lot in common with certain visitors to our shores, going around hurting and injuring people and worse
Yet somehow always the victim…..
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Despicable club with the worst supporters out there. Always someone else’s fault of course and woe betide anyone who suggests otherwise. I hear they boo the National Anthem too.
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https://x.com/honestreporting/status/1779444803849142548?s=61
“Objects.”
Well done, @BBCNews. 🤦♂️
Probably still debating now they might be deemed ‘mostly peaceful… objects’.
Seeing some clowns trying to suggest again (h/t Mishal) that as the defensive system is proving effective, what’s all the fuss about a few exploding rockets?
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I have the solution to end all of the problems in Middle East!
We need a “Middle East Envoy”.
First thing, find Tony BLiar and send him to Iran !
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Send Kate Adie to Iran, then they bloody well know they’re in trouble, they’ll all be running for the bomb shelters when they see her in front of a camera.
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The BBC head of danger! Is she still alive? if so what’s she doing ?
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Don’t know, but if she is, she probably has tinnitus now and dives under a sofa when a car backfires.
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The Khant ‘at it’ again…
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Should be limited to a Mayoral bicycle.
“Drives a 5 litre Range Rover Sentinel”
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We demand a bridge.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/garden-bridge-future-secured-as-project-wins-sadiq-khans-backing-a3250831.html
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If you knew the story behind this you’d be shocked!
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well, go on then…
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The whole thing was set up under Obama, the pretext the initial strike package etc, and the you might remember when Trump was elected the USAF flew a global hawk drone aircraft into Iranian airspace when it was legally shot down.
The Democrat Hawks came to Trump with the strike package already conceived, but Trump asked the $64000 question what is the end result and the hawks didn’t have an answer. He then asked if any Americans had been killed to which the answer was none, so he refused.
He did however authorise the strike which killed the Iranian warrior Sulemani, which was a mistake as Sulemani had partnered the Americans to defeat ISIS and was in the region fighting them.
It was a set up. The Democrats had an entire plan ready to cause war with Iran in the event Trump was elected and they tried to implement it not because it was of any import to America, but so they could get back at Trump, and that is how dangerous the Democrats are and the lengths they are prepared to go to.
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JezBo pontificates.
https://x.com/bbcpolitics/status/1779447785206501495?s=61
“The ball is in Israel’s court”
BBC International Editor Jeremy Bowen says diplomatic sources have told him “it’s time to draw a line under this” after Iran’s attack was almost entirely repelled and that Israel should not escalate further.
Again with the ‘sources’.
The ‘escalate further’ is cute too.
As an armchair statespersonship trainee it does seem to me that taking the win might be the best play. Not just the military success, but the symbolism of the support garnered too. The PR has swung back.
But… boom boom toys at £1B a day can run out, or be analysed and circumvented. And it is not like Ayaytollahs are noted for their common sense.
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Not so sure about that Western propaganda concerning the leaders of Iran.
The excercised restraint after the killing of Sulemani (sp?) firing a few missiles to make it look like they were responding so as not to lose face, and making sure they landed in the desert harmlessly
This time announcing to the world, hey we’ve fired a load of slow moving drones which will take 8 hours to get there followed by a load of slightly quicker missiles which will also take ages so you got plenty of time to prepare.
We don’t even know what the targets were if there even were any, because predictably none of them reached the destination.
I think underestimating any opponent is a bad mistake, I also think that there is a high probability of outside influence from Russia and China tempering the response.
On a seperate note, it might seem an odd move for the Biden Democrats to have lifted some of the sanctions on Iran, but it has meant that because they are supplying oil and gas to China, they have to keep the straits of Hormuz open, this has stopped oil and gas prices shooting to the moon and people in Europe dying in large numbers as a consequence.
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Let’s appease them
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Rotherham – 3 girls attacked – see BBC for more details.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08rgd5n
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okay….
anybody know if it got onto an archive before that “pull”?
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https://x.com/cunningredvers/status/1779567970747912445?s=61
That’ll be the Newsnight that edits out responses by Labour MPs at the request of the Labour Party?
Ms. Eagle got shredded.
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Ofcom eh?
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worth a read
https://www.reuters.com/world/biden-tells-netanyahu-us-would-not-take-part-offensive-response-against-iran-2024-04-14/
And this
https://apnews.com/article/biden-iran-israel-netanyahu-g7-missiles-drone-62cba0eaac095115f8386397b3ded2f4
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This afternoon / evening from the the BBC
1) Article headlined: “Why has Iran attacked Israel?” in which the BBC frame the Iran drone and missile attack on Israel as a justified and measured retaliation against the aggressor state Israel.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68811276
2) Article headlined: “Iran warns Israel against ‘reckless’ retaliation” in which the BBC act as mouthpiece for the Iranian Islamic Republic.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68811241
3) Article headlined: “US tells Israel to ‘think carefully’ before Iran response” in which the BBC repeats the warning that the aggressor state Israel must not respond towards Iran’s justifiable retaliatory action.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68813496
4) Article headlined: “As Israel debates Iran attack response, can US and allies stop slide into all-out war?” in which the BBC explain how the US and allies are trying to prevent the aggressor state Israel from escalating the situation by warning Israel not to respond to Iran’s justifiable drone and missile attack on them.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68812884
5) Article headlined: “FM condemns attack on Israel and repeats ceasefire call” in which the BBC act as mouthpiece for the worlds leading statesman Humza Youzaf and repeats that this was a retaliatory action by Iran, warns Israel against responding, and demands Israel unilaterally cease all military activity in Gaza.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-68812837
Meanwhile what the BBC do not report:
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Bet you all missed this….
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David Lammy needs a free bike!
“London MP, with a constituency only 28 minutes away by Tube from Parliament, claims £12,041 for a second home. Sounds a straight-forward case in the long line of London MPs who had their expense claims widely publicised and heavily criticised during earlier this year? Except this time, there’s one difference.
The expense claim was published back in October 2004, got a bit of local media coverage and that was that.”
https://www.markpack.org.uk/4796/the-one-who-got-away-david-lammy-and-his-expenses/
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All Saudis?
“”We learned from Europe that appeasement doesn’t work. We don’t want the new Hitler in Iran to repeat what happened in Europe in the Middle East,” he said, referring to Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
His remarks drew a strong response from Tehran.”
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-42117134
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Stop breathing – end climate change.
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As more putrid antics in medical research appears, the more the BBC ignores it.
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