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- JonathanR Nov 2, 12:49
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No motive? How about a racially motivated attack.? - G Nov 2, 12:49
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I get the distinct impression that Starmers day of reckoning is now clearly on the horizon. I’d prefer to think… - Fedup2 Nov 2, 12:38
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Ok – we are in the 24/48 hour attack ritual I dont want to speculate on what im not meant… - StewGreen Nov 2, 12:36
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journo @JackHadders account was tweeting a lot last night including the phrase “informed ..it’s officially being treated as a terrorist… - micknotmike Nov 2, 12:17
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Another thing which puzzles me is when the bbc joyfully announce that its “Not terror related”. Take it from me,… - StewGreen Nov 2, 12:15
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Keir Starmer tweeted at 10pm last night The appalling incident on a train near Huntingdon is deeply concerning. My thoughts… - Flotsam Nov 2, 12:09
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The Police briefing only said: “They are a 32-year-old black British man and a 35-year-old British man of Caribbean descent”… - StewGreen Nov 2, 12:09
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As ever people should not be punished without due process Police don’t like something about your car , they seize… - harry142857 Nov 2, 12:06
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1200 news. Sky News 32 year old black British male and a 35 year old man of Caribbean descent, both… - vlad Nov 2, 12:04
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I had the same thoughts: if it was just one perpetrator, it could be some random loony (there’s lots of…
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“The home secretary, Shabana Mahmood, (a Muslim – my brackets) urged the public to “avoid comment and speculation” about the stabbings”
‘Avoiding comment and speculation’ resulted in the rape gangs, the London stabbings, the ‘nationality’ of illegal foreigners – the list goes on…
The term ‘Home Secretary’ doesn’t really apply to her does it – it certainly doesn’t fill me with any hope for a safe home.
Not my Home Secretary.
Okay, so we will avoid comments and speculation about the actual stabbings. But let’s make some predictions about the likely media responses:
1. Regardless of the characteristics of the victims and perpetrators, the BBC will go out of its way to find and interview a member of an ethnic community. It might be someone from a different part of the train who didn’t witness the attack, it might be somebody who normally makes that journey but didn’t last night, it might be an emergency worker, it might be an off-duty railway worker. Anything. It doesn’t matter how tenuous the link, they’ll find somebody that meets the criteria.
2. Interviews with politicians or security experts (i.e. those with vested commercial interests) who will claim that Digital ID and face recognition ‘powered by AI’ would help prevent further tragedies. Look for comments like “A slight increase in privacy concerns would be a price well worth paying”.
3. Articles on the BBC which make claims such as “Contrary to public perception, such attacks are exceedingly rare and violent crime is continuing to fall in Britain”. These will then be followed by ‘feel good stories’ such as “The community which fought back against knife crime” and “I stabbed somebody but now I’m a reformed character who speaks to kids in schools about knife crime”.
Don’t forget: “the community came together to stand against racism and islamophobia.”
Could avoid speculation by publishing the facts…such as identity of the attackers.
Non-speculative Sunday edition
The Chanceller is said to be looking at proposals to apply a 100 per cent increase to the two highest council tax bands (Tut-tut the Telegraph – caught speculating about the budget there)
Andrew Rawnsley in the Observer can’t seem to help himself speculating as he riffs on a Hamlet soliloquy: 2p or not 2p… on Reeve’s big income tax decision
From the classic literary heights of Shakespeare, down to low trash culture…
Meanwhile, migrant-welcoming minor celeb Lily Allen breaks the don’t-look-back-in-anger rule in the Observer: Look back in anger Lily Allen has exposed the lies that come with an ‘open’ marriage
Even one of the BBC’s finest, Laura Kuenssberg, commits the sin of speculation with that favourite journalistic term ‘could’: Politicians rarely comment on the royals. That could all change after the Andrew saga
So, apparently, it’s OK when they do it. Or perhaps it’s just a question of the subject matter that we’re always supposed to keep shtum about?
Maybe it’s just a question of the authorities needing to get all their ducks in a row before the story breaks… they’ll be looking for a ‘hero’ for distraction and then a victim’s relative to do the forgiving act.
Meanwhile, the editor at the Daily Mail is preparing to roll the dice which tells him which headline to use for tomorrow’s edition:
1. A Royal Wedding!
2. Latest developments in Madeleine McCann story.
3. New revelations about Princess Diana.
4. Magic pill with guaranteed weight loss that also cures cancer and Alzheimers.
5. Stephen Lawrence: possible new suspects, say experts.
6. Ukraine – more support needed to stop madman Putin.
I would ask everyone never to speculate about anything . .., or the plod will kick your door in st 5am arrest you and seize your phone and puter.
Seriously – how is Ttk going to deflect from this horror – people are bored with Andy and Fedup with Rachel ?
The identity of the attackers wont be leaked for a long time . ….
Pray for the injured .
Bill of Rights 1688
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That the Subjects which are Protestants may have Arms for their Defence suitable to their Conditions and as allowed by Law.
A hero older man blocked a knife-wielding attacker from stabbing a younger girl as victims prepared to fight back with a bottle of Jack Daniels during Saturday’s UK train attack, according to a report.
https://nypost.com/2025/11/01/world-news/uk-train-stabbing-old-man-blocked-suspect-from-attacking-young-girl/
Self-defence with a whiskey bottle….if the attackers are Muslim they will claim it a hate crime against their religion….because they don’t drink….lol. The man wielding the whiskey would probably get more years in jail then they do.
I sense people are speculating like mad – but what’s the betting the train stabbing culprits turn out to be a barbershop quartet from Inverness and the photos of them when released are stills from a 1979 edition of Blue Peter when they won their badges for drawings of Petra and Patch?
DT comments switched off on Huntingdon.
“What is speculation in simple words?
“The activity of guessing possible answers to a question without having enough information to be certain: Rumours that they are about to marry have been dismissed as pure speculation.”
So presumably that means statements starting with “Could”, as in
“Politicians rarely comment on the royals. That could all change after the Andrew saga” – bBC.
“2p or not 2p… on Reeve’s big income tax decision” Observer.
“The Chancellor is said to be looking at proposals to apply a 100 per cent increase to the two highest council tax bands ” Daily Grout.
“One in, one out” Keith.
“Smash the gangs” Keith
“The Chancellor/Deputy/Justice ‘person’ has my full confidence”
Keith.
(That’s enough speculation, Scrobs – Ed)
Starmer releases a press statement: In response to the horrendous train stabbings, we will be indefatigable in our efforts to discover where the killer/s obtained their knives and prosecute that company to the full extent of the law.
BBC statement: we will do our utmost to reveal the identity and motive of the killer/s, unless they turn out to be black or islamic, in which case we will do our utmost to prevaricate, procrastinate, obfuscate and equivocate.
The day after the 7th July London bombings I knew a 4” 10” Hungarian lady in her 80s was stopped and searched at a Tube station. The police didn’t want to be accused of racial profiling. What a waste of police time. I am guessing any security measures after last night will be directed at all ages and ethnicities.
Someone who only gets their news from the BBC will genuinely believe that the Far-Right are the biggest terrorist threat to this country and they might have done it.
Meanwhile I guarantee no reference will be made to the religion of these terrorists, no condemnation of their hate to do such a thing nor any mention of their motivation for doing it.
The most extreme language used might be ‘Islamic Terrorism’ once. All articles will focus on what happened. No mention of why.
How much blood is on the hands of the Left now ?. I bet you 50p Starmer makes no reference to who did it. He will talk about the victims as if they appeared by magic.
An Asian woman is raped and immediately we know that the alleged attacker is white…and it was a ‘racially aggravated attack’.
A knife attack on a train on many people and…….tumbleweed despite the suspects having been arrested.
Maybe it was gangstas or someone with anger management issues….maybe it as terrorism. Police still haven’t learnt from the Rudakubana case.
One calm and credible eyewitness describes the knifeman as “a black male dressed all in black”.
Strangely, the BBC don’t include that clip among the other eyewitnesses on their webshite.
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No speculation needed. We all know which community love wielding big knives. I can foresee a time in the future when wearing a stab vest for shopping in Sainsburys will be the norm !
Brissles
Even as we speak the Missus is being pushed advertisements for train travel on her mobile:
Greater Anglia – BOOK NOW
Her comment – maybe not.
Isn’t AI wonderful.
We’re being urged by the Home Secretary “not to speculate”…
However, this is just something I’ve noticed. We were told the Liverpool car attacker’s race and age within a couple of hours. The next day we knew his name.
As a rule of thumb, the longer it takes for us to get any identifying details, the more they’re trying to cover up.
We don’t need to speculate…
Hello All
without reading all the bbc crap, is the knife attacker another muslim?
The issue with me, and many others, is – sadly – that as there are no real facts available from the MSM, headed by the bBC, and mainly left-wing papers, there have been so many ‘cover-ups’, so much obfuscation, so much immorality, and downright cheating by people in the public eye, who should know better, that with a huge internet of proper information, the ASSUMPTION now is that we are being lied to.
Of course citizens are going to query every political act, decision, hiding of the facts, squabble, oblivion of the laws etc., because they can now – and for every good reason too! We couldn’t do that years ago, as all we had were a few programmes on TV and the radio, plus what we read in the papers!
What makes this train attack unusual is the fact that there appears to be two involved unless the second arrest is a mistake perhaps not an accomplice.
It’s probably a witness they couldn’t intimidate into being vague about what they saw.
I am not making light of this horrific attack but as we are not allowed to tell the truth or to be angry anymore I , as a true Brit, revert to humour .
We all expect that the tired old lines that attacks were nothing to do with Islam and that the perpetrators probably have a history of mental issues will be trotted out, but the authorities, realising that we are beginning to become a tiny bit sceptical of these old chestnuts , have come with a couple of new lines.
Firstly the perpetrators were claustrophobic and suffered panic attacks in the confined spaces of the train and secondly they were both suffering from travel sickness at the time. So they have diminished responsibility for their actions.
I loath the authorities more with each attack. How many more before they do something to protect us?
Obviously Lessons have not been learned from Southport.
They hid the identity and asked people not to speculate and look what happened.
Huntingdon is the same, don’t speculate while they hide the identity yet vlad above has an eye witness saying it was a black man dressed in black.
The sad truth is they no longer need to tell us the identity because we all know how to translate the news they feed us into the truths they want to hide.
That trick doesn’t work and hasn’t worked for a while.
If it’s a white male we’re told almost immediately otherwise we all know who it will be.
EG
Its like a sick game – ritual – failing to give an initial report allows the now learned mistrust of the population over TTK
He ll hold a cobra – tell us we are all together – spout about full force of the law – then maybe go visit – but not by train and not pre announced
Currently they are in the trite empathy and platitudes on X phase, with carefully phrased wibble… just in case… carefully thumbing though what the boss said first to say, er, the same, but different.
And mostly blocking comments, like the bbc.
Fortunately, Officer Peter Pisspot from Twat Valley Police is here to bring some reassuring calm and clarity to the terrible events of last night.
“What’s very clear is that the problem here is knives…”
Spoon?
Commercial steel soup ladle, angle grinder and metal filing disc. 10 minutes.
Wear a chef’s hat when going through the detectors. Or be seen clearly carrying a takeaway kebab (no relation)
Had to be age verified in Aldi when buying discs for an angle grinder.
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LOL….literally released two days ago….bad timing….or maybe the attack was just part of the recruitment ad and they’re all actors?
I think the time has come for a national discussion about having the right to defend ourselves.
Imagine – if every passenger had a gun, the threat would have been eliminated long before more people got hurt.
The country has changed, we don’t live in the 20th century anymore.
Interesting thought but it’ll never happen in a million years.
The liberals will point to all the mass shootings in America.
And all the criminals would then have guns too.
A lot of criminals already have guns while the innocent have laws that tell them they’re not allowed to protect themselves or risk going to prison.
Is it any good saying people need to wake up to the threat from mass immigration when the people in charge are deliberately and knowingly implementing such a policy? They are not going to change…in fact they will speed it up in order to make demographic change[ie ethnic cleansing in effect] de facto.
So if they won’t change how do you stop them?
Australia is still under threat….from legal migration….you can watch Youtube videos of Chinese Australians…they have no White friends and indeed are quite disparaging of White Australia. Doesn’t bode well never mind the Islamic jihadists.
Media shutdown on train stabbing is total. No one, not even the independent social media sources, are saying more than the BBC. Witnesses are completely silent
It’s certain that all the witnesses have been firmly cautioned by the cops not to say anything. Presumably they hadn’t yet got to the witness (above) who described the suspect as a black male.
The problems facing this Country will only get fixed when the elites suffer like the rest of us.
Imagine if the Wife’s or daughters of our leaders get raped, or stabbed. Only then will things get done.
Don’t bet on it. I genuinely believe they’d happily sacrifice family members for the agenda.
Remember the EU member whose daughter was raped and killed and they said don’t blame the migrant?
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This from the New York post.
https://nypost.com/2025/11/01/world-news/uk-train-stabbing-old-man-blocked-suspect-from-attacking-young-girl/
Nothing from our media..
Mahmood in the Graun…
“Those are all suppositions. The only assessment is that this was an isolated incident, an isolated attack. ”
Tell me Herm Secretary, how many ‘isolated incidents’ make up a concerted riot? How many times when a single stabbing takes place, is it now seen as none other than yet another sign that Britons have to constantly watch their backs for whoever is going to stab them?
What have you told the MSM to report, and do you think they’ll take any notice? Because if you don’t come clean pretty damn soon, the national assumption will be the unthinkable for you and your paltry bunch of no-hopers in ‘government’.
Get Governing, start real work, and begin to make our country safe again, because you’re not helping one bit by throwing your arms up in the air, asking for numerous reports, deciding nothing and panicking.
And tell the bBC to get off their fat leftie-cheek arses and stand up for British Values while you’re at it.
Update – Talk Radio reporting that after a police statement, says this isn’t being seen as a ‘terrorist’ attack. But of course, the passengers were terrified! Peter Bletchley (ex copper) on fire as usual, Peter Cardwell spot on the news as always!
Lone wolf with mental problems who was known to the police and was let out of prison incorrectly due to 14 years of tory incompetence.
‘At this stage there is nothing to suggest this is a terrorist incident…..we are working to establish the motivation…and at this stage it would be inappropriate to speculate on the cause of this incident…’
Hmmm….prima facie there is a lot to suggest it might be a terrorist incident….and if you haven’t established a motive yet how can you decisively discount that?
Police playing down the possibility before knowing. The arrested maybe Black but that doesn’t mean they’re not Muslim. Might suggest police put that speculation to rest.
Maybe it was Brexit….or slavery….or toxic masculinity and the patriarchy.
PLEASE DON’T SPECULATE…WE SUSPECT WE KNOW…..
Thank goodness calm heads have prevailed, I’m grateful that all the authorities have acted to stop speculation on what we know about the “Train incident”.
It would be wrong to yet again blame Brexit for this ……let’s just wait until the suspects have been properly interviewed under caution before concluding that Brexit is to blame.
It would also be wrong at this stage to mention climate change or indeed Donald Trump…….it’s just too early .
Curious descriptions:
” They are a 32-year-old black British man and a 35-year-old British man of Caribbean descent”
So aren’t most black people that are born British are of Caribbean descent, perhaps he’s African descent?
A 35 year old British Man of Caribbean descent? Black or white, we’re not told.
We’re also told that that it’s not terrorism related, I’m reassured that a mass stabbing isn’t terrorism.
Roll on Reform UK !
We need a government that defends its people and our borders . Not one that makes excuses
A case of a white guy murdering an innocent Syrian refugee in Huddersfield. Convicted 9th Oct.
Obviously there are some white hoodlums
and CCTV does seem to show the Syrian brushing past Alfie Franco’s girlfriend.
Franco calls out the Syrian starts walking back
Franco whips out a flick knife and kills him
If there is more the media don’t report much
but something curious is that After being born in 2005 Franco’s family moved to South Africa
A weird thing to do since S Africa is full of crime these days
and they moved back to Huddersfield 13 years later
Seems he’d been living in Capetown
How English are they ? .. he has a relative called Carlos Franco
Alfie Franco aged 20 from the Crescent, Kirkburton, was today (Thursday 9 October) convicted at Leeds Crown Court of the murder of 16 year old Ahmad Mamdouh Al Ibrahim in Huddersfield on 3 April.
During the trial, the jury heard that Ahmad, who had only recently arrived in Huddersfield, had been walking with a friend at just before 2.45pm on Ramsden Street on 3 April when they came across Franco and a woman.
As the pair walked by, CCTV showed Franco saying something to Amhad who, speaking little English, turned and walked back.
A few second later Franco was shown to reach for a concealed knife which he then, with no threat or provocation made towards him, used to stab his victim once in the neck.
Franco fled the scene but later handed himself in at a police station, telling officers in an interview he had been acting in self-defence and had spent years living in South Africa as the only white boy in the Cape Flats, where “if a boy came for you with aggression, they are either coming to hurt you or kill you”
TWO Black British Nationals
one 32yrs
& other of Caribbean descent 35yrs
have been arrested on suspicion of the stabbings on a train in Huntingdon yesterday evening;
this matter is ‘Not’ being deemed as a Terrorist Attack;
The possible election of Zohran Mamdani as next Mayor of New York is classic infiltration…a Trojan Horse if you like….a Muslim spouting hard-left ‘populist’ policies to get elected but of course always with the long game in sight….ala Iran.
The BBC’s ‘Sunday’ were of course very bouyant about this prospect and very uncritical and credulous….they even wheeled in Hamza Yousaf to help the celebration along as he declared he was a Muslim but that didn’t shape his policies….really? How about the hate laws? Athough ostensibly wideranging in fact were an ‘Islamophobia’ law in disguise…much as Warsi promoted hardline protections for ‘all’ religions but knowing the effect would be to silence critics of Islam.
All very friendly and positive…the presenter did ask, laughing as she did, about Christian Kate Forbes in Scotland who was hounded for her beliefs….this was dismissed by Yousaf as Forbes actually, in effect, daring to tell the truth about her beliefs and values…whereas he of course is not so honest and hides his real beliefs and intentions [in non-Muslim public sphere]….and yet he is praised for that….and this gives the lie to his schtick…he wants more Muslim leaders in Western Democracies in order to ‘change the course history’….ie in favour of Islam…
There was no surprise to hear that Muslims had been ‘mobilised’ by Zohran Mamdani and were voting for him based on religion as well as the marxist populism….which is the acceptable kind for the BBC.
If Forbes, say, had ‘mobilised’ the Christian vote do you think the BBC would be quite so welcoming and uncritical?
This the BBC that targeted Christians and claimed they were using a ‘womb as a weapon’ by having babies…
‘The Womb as a Weapon will be broadcast on the BBC World Service on 18 May at 19:32 GMT. ‘
Not so keen to expose this…
‘“Islam will return to Europe. The conquest need not necessarily be by sword. Perhaps we will conquer these lands without armies. We want an army of preachers and teachers who will present Islam in all languages and all dialects.”
Dr Al-Qaradawi, who is based in Qatar, is also the spiritual guide of the hardline Muslim Brotherhood, which is growing across Europe, and whose leader Muhammad Mahdi Othman ’Akef declared recently, ‘I have complete faith that Islam will invade Europe and America, because Islam has logic and a mission.’’
The cover up and obfuscation has already begun.
The police are telling us that this attack has no links to terrorism and Andrew Pierce has told us that one of the suspects is a white British national of Caribbean decent.
Both “suspects” are black and I can’t fathom how an entirely random attack on innocent train travellers by two men wielding huge zombie knives can be considered as anything other than terrorism.
Once again we’re being taken for mugs.
Next they’ll be telling us it was a trick or treat that got out of hand…
I had the same thoughts: if it was just one perpetrator, it could be some random loony (there’s lots of mental problems among certain ‘communities’ – fact).
But 2 loonies acting together? It would be a very unusual case.
And what’s “a white British national of Caribbean descent”?
The Police briefing only said:
“They are a 32-year-old black British man and a 35-year-old British man of Caribbean descent”
I don’t know where “white” came from.
The fact there seems to be two involved I would have thought points to terrorism which is the point I was trying to make previously.
1200 news.
Sky News 32 year old black British male and a 35 year old man of Caribbean descent, both born in the UK arrested.
BBC news. Two British nationals in custody.
PS. Does anybody know what happens to our glorious leader at weekends, he’s nowhere to be seen or heard.
Keir Starmer tweeted at 10pm last night
The appalling incident on a train near Huntingdon is deeply concerning.
My thoughts are with all those affected, and my thanks go to the emergency services for their response.
Anyone in the area should follow the advice of the police.
Sadiq 4 hours ago tweeted a similar we statement 4 hours ago
Locked replies as usual cos he doesn’t like free debate
.. https://x.com/MayorofLondon/status/1984892609207173513
As ever people should not be punished without due process
Police don’t like something about your car , they seize it under section 59
You retrieve it
.. you fail to tell your insurance company
The police seize it again
Then this time they say “ah well we phoned your insurance company, they have now revoked your insurance, you are not insured, so you cannot have your vehicle even if you turn up with a trailer to put it on”
Section 59 of the Police Reform Act 2002, which gives police powers to stop, warn, and seize vehicles used in an antisocial manner, such as careless or inconsiderate driving that causes alarm, distress, or annoyance to the public. It does not directly impose a requirement on a person to “inform” their insurance company,
but … most standard insurance policies require you to disclose any and all warnings, driving offences, or police involvement related to your vehicle use.
Failing to disclose a Section 59 warning or subsequent offences/seizure could be considered a breach of your insurance terms, potentially invalidating your policy.
You see I don’t support crude posters in public cos children can see them etc.
YouTube pushes at me BritainFirst videos saying police have twice seized their bus under section 59 cos it has an anti-social banner “Keir is a W**ker”.
Latest vid shows police saying they won’t prosecute but they have phoned the insurance company and they’ve revoked the insurance
The BF video fails to mention if BF failed to disclose the first incident to the insurers.
but seizing someone’s vehicle like that and then selling it on to pay for impoundment amounts to a fine of thousands of pounds without due process
And is against the spirit of equal justice, cos another political party would not have the same insurance problem.
Another thing which puzzles me is when the bbc joyfully announce that its “Not terror related”. Take it from me, pal, it is terror related, in that it scares me sh1tl3ss. That reassuring platitude doesn’t make me feel any safer. All I know is that the country is infested with invaders from various lower subspecies who wish me harm.
Saying that they are “British nationals” is an indication of how mistaken the country is in giving them a passport, and is an insult to those who fought to protect us.
I remember when I was a lot younger witnessing the various protests and boycotts aimed at South Africa’s apartheid system. I quietly thought at the time that it actually had its merits. It may be that approach, with a less controversial name, may be the way forward, if only to safeguard our civilisation.
journo @JackHadders account was tweeting a lot last night
including the phrase “informed ..it’s officially being treated as a terrorist attack”
Now since 8am his account has been unavaiable.
Ok – we are in the 24/48 hour attack ritual
I dont want to speculate on what im not meant to speculate about .
Nor why such horror isnt a ‘ terrorist incident ‘ or do they mean not a’ islamic terrorist incident ‘
So whats the motive ? Two lone mental cases ? – not known to plod / known to plod – on the monitoring thingy …
Will they turn out to be converts to islam doing their false gods’ work?
As these events – slaighters – become more common place the MSM will under report them – and we ll be told the lie crime numbers are falling – as people dont bother reporting even serious things any more .
No motive? How about a racially motivated attack.?