So Lammys argument is that if we leave the ECHR we are in the same league as Belarus.
And now he wants to scrap jury trials I wonder if he knows how justice works in Belarus?
“Belarus does not have a trial by jury system; instead, cases are typically decided by judges in a civil law system. The Supreme Court oversees the judicial process, but jury trials are uncommon in Belarus”
I would expect all marxists regimes throughout history did not have trial by jury.
Trial by Jury has a long history in England
In 1215, King John of England issued the Magna Carta, which granted certain rights and freedoms to the people of England. One of these rights was the right to be tried by a jury of peers. This was a fundamental shift in the legal system of England, as it meant that the people could now be tried by their peers, rather than by the king or the barons.
ChatGPT: How many of the 46 members of the ECHR, have a jury system of justice?
ChatGPT says: Only 9 of the worlds 51 states with a jury system in criminal trials, are members of the ECHR. There are 42 states with a superior jury system of justice outside of the ECHR, but 37 members of the ECHR have a top down justice system inferior to the bottom up jury system of justice used in more advanced societies.
Richard, just as an experiment, I asked Grok the same question.
“How many of the 46 members of the ECHR, have a jury system of justice ? ”
Reply –
“Based on available data, of the 46 Council of Europe member states party to the ECHR, approximately 10 have traditional jury systems for certain criminal trials: UK, Ireland, Spain, Belgium, Denmark, Austria, Switzerland (some cantons), Malta, Georgia, and Ukraine. Many others use mixed systems with lay judges. Definitions vary, so exact counts differ across sources.”
The idea of ending the jury system for most indictable offences would once upon a time been howled down instantly – whatever the reason – but the reception I heard on the BBC seemed like acquiesce….
Having been forced to study the jury system at law school the whole thing makes me shudder – my professor – Michael zander – who used to pop on TV – great man – would be absolutely distraught at the idea .
The danger is that judges are now tainted through TTK – once upon a time the ‘right type ‘ were elevated – but look at we there is now – political woke trash – at least a jury might be able to signal what they think – but without them – we really are at the mercy of TTK …
There’s an irritating ad doing the rounds on stations, for Costa stuff.
Two blokes, starting their day, have to have their ‘coffee’, and it’s supposed to set them up to work for the day!
Fine, so far, but why not get an insulated flask, get out of bed earlier, make your own coffee, and stop wasting over three quid a pop on the sort of overpriced stuff they ‘have to buy’ for some odd reason!
That’s fifteen quid a week saved for a start… Sixty quid a month pays for a lot of electricity – the real sort, not the manic clown’s fantasies…
(Have to say, I’m glad the far-left bBC don’t ‘do’ adverts, as they would be just intolerable, with wokery, transy, lazy, racist, bennies stuff from wall to wall…)
Scroblene – totally agree – I invested in a stainless steel indestructible food holder which I used for my own brand black coffee – cost must be about – 10p a mug – which I hope i am not …
USAID more than doubled its spending on Brazil as soon as Bolsonaro won the 2018 election. The money was spent on projects aimed at overthrowing Bolsonaro. The 2022 Brazilian election was stolen from Bolsonaro just as the 2020 U.S. election was stolen from Donald Trump, with evidence that USAID and the CIA were involved in installing election-rigging machines that Brazilians didn’t even want.
Just months before the election, CIA Director William Burns visited Brazil and warned Bolsonaro not to cast doubt on the voting machines or contest the election results — implying the newly installed machines were compromised.
Additionally, the pro-Communist US Defense Secretary, Lloyd Austin, visited Brazil and pressured the Chief of the Brazilian Armed Forces to accept the election results and support left-wing Lula, a convicted felon and self-proclaimed Communist.
In other words, the anti-Christian Russia, pro-Communist China, anti-Republican, pro-Democrat, Communist Idiots Agency (CIA), overthrew the anti-Communist Brazilian government via USAID — all at the expense of the anti-Communist American taxpayer.
This ‘Nigel Farage’s Schooldays’ bukkake session in a tv studio by the msm is an ironic watershed.
I was there at the time. Can’t remember a thing. I very much doubt anyone else can either.
But that has not stopped that ex BBC oily weasel Crick dredging up the inevitable disaffected 15 minute of fame lefty gobs with perfect recollection of schoolyard taunts decades ago, and then getting the Graun to polish the turd for the usually suspect kindergarden mean girlz to spin up.
Here’s Toenails.
https://x.com/bbcr4today/status/1993241844969619520?s=61
Reform UK leader Nigel Farage has insisted he has ‘never directly racially abused anybody’, following complaints from 20 former schoolmates in a Guardian investigation.
@hzeffman says there is ‘a lot of political heat’ from other parties following the allegations.
Hereeeeeeeee’s Henry…
https://x.com/bbcbreakfast/status/1993218057704190216?s=61
Reform UK leader Nigel Farage has insisted he has “never directly racially abused anybody”, following complaints from 20 people he went to school with.
Chief political correspondent Henry Zeffman had more details on #BBCBreakfast
They were not complaints; they were quoted whinges from a gutter reporter. And of that 20, 8 were #sourceswhosay About what happened in schoolyard.
If this is the bbc digging themselves out of an ideologically corrupted impartiality hole… good luck in court.
True desperation from anyone trying to slur any politician with what was said at school 40 years ago . No doubt they made contemporaneous notes in their exercise book knowing Farage would one day be PM.
It’s a nonsense using that against any politician – but the desperation to undermine Farage – Farage Derangement Syndrome is bound to get even loonier if the polls stay as the are – or get even better for Reform as more people get even more cheesed off ….
And since Farage is living rent free in so many uniparty heads perhaps the necessary paperwork landlords have to do should be verified – right Rachel ….?
Harry – im so glad I get fed the crewkerne videos – they are the new ‘spitting image ‘ – think there were 4 or 5 today – a reggae 47 – Lee Anderson as a Rasta ? – Rachel as darth Vader and ‘madness ‘ … they are so clever and funny and stuff the BBC would not even reference yet alone show ….
It cheers my day too. I think some are re-issued videos, but I’ve told all my contacts about Crewkerne, maybe get a Christmas viral number one. Their subs are flying up 😎
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So Lammys argument is that if we leave the ECHR we are in the same league as Belarus.
And now he wants to scrap jury trials I wonder if he knows how justice works in Belarus?
“Belarus does not have a trial by jury system; instead, cases are typically decided by judges in a civil law system. The Supreme Court oversees the judicial process, but jury trials are uncommon in Belarus”
I would expect all marxists regimes throughout history did not have trial by jury.
Trial by Jury has a long history in England
In 1215, King John of England issued the Magna Carta, which granted certain rights and freedoms to the people of England. One of these rights was the right to be tried by a jury of peers. This was a fundamental shift in the legal system of England, as it meant that the people could now be tried by their peers, rather than by the king or the barons.
ChatGPT: How many of the 46 members of the ECHR, have a jury system of justice?
ChatGPT says: Only 9 of the worlds 51 states with a jury system in criminal trials, are members of the ECHR. There are 42 states with a superior jury system of justice outside of the ECHR, but 37 members of the ECHR have a top down justice system inferior to the bottom up jury system of justice used in more advanced societies.
Richard, just as an experiment, I asked Grok the same question.
“How many of the 46 members of the ECHR, have a jury system of justice ? ”
Reply –
“Based on available data, of the 46 Council of Europe member states party to the ECHR, approximately 10 have traditional jury systems for certain criminal trials: UK, Ireland, Spain, Belgium, Denmark, Austria, Switzerland (some cantons), Malta, Georgia, and Ukraine. Many others use mixed systems with lay judges. Definitions vary, so exact counts differ across sources.”
The idea of ending the jury system for most indictable offences would once upon a time been howled down instantly – whatever the reason – but the reception I heard on the BBC seemed like acquiesce….
Having been forced to study the jury system at law school the whole thing makes me shudder – my professor – Michael zander – who used to pop on TV – great man – would be absolutely distraught at the idea .
The danger is that judges are now tainted through TTK – once upon a time the ‘right type ‘ were elevated – but look at we there is now – political woke trash – at least a jury might be able to signal what they think – but without them – we really are at the mercy of TTK …
Brace yourselves for a “sugar levy on milkshakes and lattes”
There’s an irritating ad doing the rounds on stations, for Costa stuff.
Two blokes, starting their day, have to have their ‘coffee’, and it’s supposed to set them up to work for the day!
Fine, so far, but why not get an insulated flask, get out of bed earlier, make your own coffee, and stop wasting over three quid a pop on the sort of overpriced stuff they ‘have to buy’ for some odd reason!
That’s fifteen quid a week saved for a start… Sixty quid a month pays for a lot of electricity – the real sort, not the manic clown’s fantasies…
(Have to say, I’m glad the far-left bBC don’t ‘do’ adverts, as they would be just intolerable, with wokery, transy, lazy, racist, bennies stuff from wall to wall…)
Scroblene – totally agree – I invested in a stainless steel indestructible food holder which I used for my own brand black coffee – cost must be about – 10p a mug – which I hope i am not …
Why China is paying off the likes of Beijing Barry Gardiner ….
Donald Trump and Elon Musk are talking about actions to help Bolsonaro in Brazil: https://x.com/jkumarsharma998/status/1992958500117594622
USAID more than doubled its spending on Brazil as soon as Bolsonaro won the 2018 election. The money was spent on projects aimed at overthrowing Bolsonaro. The 2022 Brazilian election was stolen from Bolsonaro just as the 2020 U.S. election was stolen from Donald Trump, with evidence that USAID and the CIA were involved in installing election-rigging machines that Brazilians didn’t even want.
Just months before the election, CIA Director William Burns visited Brazil and warned Bolsonaro not to cast doubt on the voting machines or contest the election results — implying the newly installed machines were compromised.
Additionally, the pro-Communist US Defense Secretary, Lloyd Austin, visited Brazil and pressured the Chief of the Brazilian Armed Forces to accept the election results and support left-wing Lula, a convicted felon and self-proclaimed Communist.
In other words, the anti-Christian Russia, pro-Communist China, anti-Republican, pro-Democrat, Communist Idiots Agency (CIA), overthrew the anti-Communist Brazilian government via USAID — all at the expense of the anti-Communist American taxpayer.
This ‘Nigel Farage’s Schooldays’ bukkake session in a tv studio by the msm is an ironic watershed.
I was there at the time. Can’t remember a thing. I very much doubt anyone else can either.
But that has not stopped that ex BBC oily weasel Crick dredging up the inevitable disaffected 15 minute of fame lefty gobs with perfect recollection of schoolyard taunts decades ago, and then getting the Graun to polish the turd for the usually suspect kindergarden mean girlz to spin up.
Here’s Toenails.
https://x.com/bbcr4today/status/1993241844969619520?s=61
Reform UK leader Nigel Farage has insisted he has ‘never directly racially abused anybody’, following complaints from 20 former schoolmates in a Guardian investigation.
@hzeffman says there is ‘a lot of political heat’ from other parties following the allegations.
Hereeeeeeeee’s Henry…
https://x.com/bbcbreakfast/status/1993218057704190216?s=61
Reform UK leader Nigel Farage has insisted he has “never directly racially abused anybody”, following complaints from 20 people he went to school with.
Chief political correspondent Henry Zeffman had more details on #BBCBreakfast
They were not complaints; they were quoted whinges from a gutter reporter. And of that 20, 8 were #sourceswhosay About what happened in schoolyard.
If this is the bbc digging themselves out of an ideologically corrupted impartiality hole… good luck in court.
True desperation from anyone trying to slur any politician with what was said at school 40 years ago . No doubt they made contemporaneous notes in their exercise book knowing Farage would one day be PM.
It’s a nonsense using that against any politician – but the desperation to undermine Farage – Farage Derangement Syndrome is bound to get even loonier if the polls stay as the are – or get even better for Reform as more people get even more cheesed off ….
And since Farage is living rent free in so many uniparty heads perhaps the necessary paperwork landlords have to do should be verified – right Rachel ….?
With apologies to Suggs and the Nutty Boys. No connection with the BBC whatsoever.
Harry – im so glad I get fed the crewkerne videos – they are the new ‘spitting image ‘ – think there were 4 or 5 today – a reggae 47 – Lee Anderson as a Rasta ? – Rachel as darth Vader and ‘madness ‘ … they are so clever and funny and stuff the BBC would not even reference yet alone show ….
It cheers my day too. I think some are re-issued videos, but I’ve told all my contacts about Crewkerne, maybe get a Christmas viral number one. Their subs are flying up 😎
These guys too