Open Thread Monday

After  Harriet Harman declared that the BBC is the ‘gold standard’ that other broadcasters and media must look to for inspiration and guidance I thought no more could be said about the glorious Beeb…clearly I was wrong, the last open thread is bulging and Brian Sewell’s (H/T George R & Buggy) own assessment rings very true…‘Bollocks…it could be ten times better’……

We refuse even to face it, let alone to stop it.


‘One lesson well understood in both Stalin’s Russia and Nazi Germany was that propaganda is most effective when it is backed by terror.’…Sir Alan Bullock.


 We refuse even to face it, let alone to stop it.


The Met’s head of counter-terrorism said that there had been an increase in reported hate crime in the wake of the Woolwich attack: “Every single incident is horrible but compared with previous times we have had slightly less,” she said.

Dick added that while there had been “horrible” attacks on Mosques there had not been any very serious assaults reported. “It has started to reduce now,”



The BBC however has taken a different view and continue to push the narrative that Fiyaz Mughal of  ‘Tell Mama’ put out…that Muslims were under attack….and the attacks are still rising in numbers.


After the Woolwich incident, Tell Mama claimed that there had been a “sustained wave of attacks and intimidation” against British Muslims, with 193 “Islamophobic incidents” reported to it, rising to 212 by last weekend.

 Mughal, said he saw “no end to this cycle of violence”, describing it as “unprecedented”. The claims were unquestioningly repeated in the media.



Perhaps the BBC should have asked Saif Rahman about his experiences as an ex-Muslim, an Apostate….how he has been under constant threat and how he has received 139 death threats for leaving Islam.

He’s just one person…and that’s 139 death threats for him alone….Tell Mama claimed it had 212 examples of ‘Islamophobic incidents’ for the whole population of near 3 million Muslims in the UK.

Is the BBC interested in Saif Rahman?  No.  Are they concerned that one man has received 139 death threats?  No.

But then again the good people of the BBC love Yusuf Islam…they love his music and go to his concerts…and yet he is the man who said not only should Salman Rushdie be killed but he would personally execute him if he were in an Islamic country.



Curious now though that the BBC have stopped referring to ‘Tell Mama’….but now refer to Fiyaz Mughal as coming from ‘Faith Matters’:

Fiyaz Mughal, from interfaith group Faith Matters, said Mr Robinson’s condemnation was “hollow”. 


Why might the BBC not want to refer to ‘Tell Mama’? 

Could it be that the group is now widely discredited?


Mughal’s claims under the guise of ‘Tell Mama’ of a wave of Islamophobic attacks has been debunked…..but even before Woolwich ‘Tell Mama’ was being sidelined by the government for presenting figures and data that ‘didn’t stack up’:

‘However, The Sunday Telegraph has now learned that even before Woolwich, the communities minister, the Liberal Democrat MP Don Foster, called Mr Mughal to a meeting and said that Tell Mama’s grant would not be renewed.

The organisation has received a total of £375,000 from the Department for Communities and Local Government (DCLG) since last year.

Mr Mughal was giving data on attacks to DCLG which wasn’t stacking up when it was cross-referenced with other reports by Acpo [the Association of Chief Police Officers],” said one source closely involved in counter-extremism.

“He was questioned by DCLG civil servants and lost his temper. He was subsequently called in by Don Foster and told that he would receive no more money.”

A senior Liberal Democrat source confirmed the sequence of events, saying: “There was a bit of a spat. He was called in and told that Acpo had cast doubt on his figures. He was told that he would be closely monitored for the remaining period of the grant and that there would be no more money.” ‘



£375,000…for one year, adding up police statistics…not bad work if you can get it.


Could there be a link between ‘Tell Mama’ having its funding withdrawn and the sudden ‘spike’ it found in Islamophobic attacks after Woolwich?  Could it be that it hoped to ‘encourage’ the government to think again and start dishing out the handouts once more? 

It’s a shame that the BBC can’t find the time or will to investigate organisations like ‘Tell Mama’ that milk the System dry and far from helping to reduce ‘community tensions’ actually helps raise them by exaggerating any threat levels. 

Perhaps the BBC could start with claims that ‘Tell Mama’ had been using its funding to launch legal attacks against people that criticise it as reported in the Telegraph:


Tell Mama has also been using its budget to threaten members of the public with libel actions for criticising it on Twitter.

In mid-May, before Woolwich, one Jewish activist, Ambrosine Chetrit, received a threatening letter from solicitors after she tweeted that “Tell Mama are sitting on Twitter on the EDL hashtag, threatening anyone and everyone whose comments they do not like about Islam”.

Tell Mama also objected to a tweet in which Ms Chetrit said it was “trying to close down pro-Israel [Twitter] accounts daily”.

Other recipients of legal threats at the same time include Atma Singh, a former race adviser to the then Labour mayor of London, Ken Livingstone, who received a legal letter from Tell Mama after tweeting that it “gives a platform to Islamists”.

Tell Mama did not claim that either of these individuals was racist or anti-Muslim. But it said their tweets were false and “defamatory” of Mr Mughal, had “damaged” his reputation, causing him “distress and embarrassment”, and demanded immediate apologies and damages. Up to four other people are believed to have received similar threats.

The letters were written by Farooq Bajwa, a solicitor who has acted for a number of Islamists and Islamist sympathisers, including the Palestinian radical leader Raed Salah and the Respect MP George Galloway.

The letters to Mr Singh and Ms Chetrit were sent to their private home addresses, neither of which are in the public domain. Ms Chetrit’s lawyer, Mark Lewis, who has acted for many phone-hacking victims, has reported Mr Bajwa and Tell Mama to the police after they refused to say how they obtained the information.

“I have been instructed to resist the claim,” said Mr Lewis. “It has no merit. I have not had any response as to how my client’s name and address were obtained.”

Mr Singh said: “I find it absurd that someone can threaten people on this kind of basis and use libel in this political way. This is nothing to do with Islamophobia – they are just trying to shut down debate.”

Ms Chetrit said: “It is very worrying and scary. All the people who have been threatened by Tell Mama are pro-Israeli.”



Charles Moore in the Telegraph spells out exactly what is wrong in this country when the BBC and government get into bed with the wrong people:

It is less than a month since Drummer Lee Rigby was murdered in Woolwich, yet already the incident feels half-forgotten. In terms of the legal process, all is well. Two men have been charged. There will be a trial. No doubt justice will be done. But I have a sense that the horror felt at the crime is slipping away.

The media, notably the BBC, quickly changed the subject. After a day or two focusing on the crime itself, the reports switched to anxiety about the “Islamophobic backlash”. 



‘I sing no song for the once-proud country that spawned me,’ wrote a sailor who fought the Japanese in the Far East, ‘and I wonder why I ever tried.’





The BBC Caps Itself


Harriet Harman spoke and the BBC listened. 

Harman, Deputy Labour Party Leader, Shadow Deputy Prime Minister, Shadow Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport gave her speech last night on capping Media monopoly and the BBC have already started to implement her ideas…capping their news output…by not reporting anything she said.

 Nothing.  Zip.  Nada.  Zilch.  Sweet Fanny Adams.

A speech from someone in her position on a subject of unique interest to the BBC….and yet not a dicky bird today.

The speech is all over the internet and the newpapers…..but one of the world’s most powerful news gatherers and providers has decided not to report the speech…how so?

Amusingly Harman says:

There’s an absolute aversion to that [political interference  in the press] from all sides of the House of Commons.  No parliamentarian has called for political interference in the press.


….this isn’t just about Rupert Murdoch.

 Pull the other one Harry!


Actually the BBC didn’t miss the story…on the 8th of May they broadcast an interview with Harman on this very subject on the Media Show. (3 mins in)…but not reported in the ‘news’ as far as I can see.

…and yes…it is ALL about Murdoch….the ‘culture of invincibiltiy….dictating the political agenda’.

The interviewer was reasonably rigorous and fair and put the question to her:

‘Do you include the BBC as part of your calculations?

 She ignored that.

He asked again:

‘Do you think the BBC is too big a force…it had 59% share of the news in 2003 and that rose to 74% in 2011?’

Harman replied that ….no, the BBC is not included…there is all the difference in the world between a privately owned broadcaster and a public broadcaster which has its own mechanisms for accountability [ha ha] and no I don’t include it as a monopoly…it’s not a private monopoly.

I put it on one side….the standards the BBC offers are offers a gold standard for other broadcasters…the role of the BBC is absolutely essential…there is no need for protection from the BBC, far from it, we need to strengthen the BBC.


So the BBC has 74% share of the news…and that will only get bigger as Harman’s regulation would be implemented and other news providers reined in…..nice plan…especially as the BBC supports Labour and left wing political narratives.


One interesting point was raised….as newspapers are struggling and some may ‘go under’….that makes the survivors bigger by default….Harman’s regulation would mean that they would then have to cut their newspaper sales to reduce their share of the market…a never ending death spiral resulting in one state controlled media provider running the show.


No political interference?    Doesn’t she know that Communism doesn’t work?

Patten BBC Trust



Patten, BBC, Trust…oh and Europe.

All words which are increasingly hard to put together in one sentence that you could say out loud without laughing.

Thinking of complaining to the BBC Trust about the BBC’s coverage of Europe?…shouldn’t bother judging by Patten’s latest bit of thinking out loud:

 ‘Conservative Eurosceptics could be sending the party down the path to “political suicide” if they show they are unwilling to accept British membership of the EU in any form.’

Impartiality in his DNA.

He also seems to believe that the BBC in its present form is sacrosanct and cannot be reduced in any shape or form:

I have got no doubt at all that a smaller licence fee would result in cuts in services. Every time in the last couple of years we have tried to reduce services there has been a storm.

“I think we should be realistic the next time we negotiate the licence fee about what the consequences would be if the licence fee was substantially reduced.”


Well…what exactly would those consequences be?  Think we could live with them somehow.

If The Cap Fits

This is already going strongly on the Open Thread but I think it deserves top billing for a while:

 Harriet Harman is due to give a speech  in which she will outline a plan to limit media ownership….can’t see any mention of the BBC funnily enough….maybe that’s the Guardian’s editing.

 A media ownership cap as low as 15% across newspapers, broadcasting companies and online sites must be considered to stop companies feeling they are “above the rule of law”, according to Harriet Harman.

“Media monopoly matters in a democracy. The concentration of unaccountable media power distorts the political system. The media shapes how we see ourselves and how we see the world. In a democracy, the free flow of information, of different points of view, is crucial for open debate.

“Too much power in too few hands hinders proper debate. Plurality ensures that no media owner can exert such a damaging influence on public opinion and on policy makers. It ensures that no media company can have so much influence that it feels itself immune, above the rule of law. It ensures no private interest can set itself above the public interest.




I see absolutely no reason why such a cap shouldn’t apply just as readily to the BBC as any commercial company…the BBC is all the more ‘influential’ because people expect it to be impartial…and often give it the benefit of the doubt and so genuine bias by the BBC slips by unnoticed as such whereas a commercial company is expected to have a particular political or social outlook and its reports are viewed with that in mind.

The BBC smothers national debate, distorts and corrupts politics and turns a democracy into a one party state by forcing politicians to dance to its tune….hence all politicians look and sound the same.

Too big, too powerful and too unaccountable.


Time for change.





Excellent post on Elder of Ziyon.

Remember Howard Gutman? He is the US ambassador to Belgium who made an outrageous and ignorant speech in 2011 saying that Muslim antisemitism is nothing like the traditional European type, because it is really a result of Israeli policies.

A DS [Bureau of Diplomatic Security] agent was called off a case against US Ambassador to Belgium Howard Gutman over claims that he solicited prostitutes, including minors.

“The agent began his investigation and had determined that the ambassador routinely ditched his protective security detail in order to solicit sexual favors from both prostitutes and minor children,” says the memo.

“The ambassador’s protective detail and the embassy’s surveillance detection team . . . were well aware of the behavior.”

Undersecretary of State for Management Patrick Kennedy ordered the investigation ceased, and the ambassador remains in place, according to the memo.

Gutman was a big Democratic donor before taking the post, having raised $500,000 for President Obama’s 2008 campaign and helping finance his inauguration.

Just taking care of business, right? Odd how the BBC misses these kind of stories…


Mandela still alive, BBC breathlessly informs us. It is remarkable how MUCH attention the BBC lavishes on the former South African President. I will be sorry when he dies as this will cause grief to his family and Nation … and leftists everywhere. However Mandela’s long association with communism, with terrorism, and with dislike of the USA needs covered too.


A Biased BBC reader sent me this and I am simply sharing. It concerns how the BBC covered the protests against the recent Bilderberg conference.

use of clearly biased label ‘Shock jock’ to describe Alex Jones, and subsequent editing and highlighting of certain aspects of his interview on iPlayer (see attached screenshot) “Andrew Neil described him as ‘the worst person he’d ever interviewed'” Andrew Neil’s concerted effort throughout coverage of Bilderberg on the Politics show on BBC to scoff at, discredit and devalue the opinions of opposition to Bilderberg.  At the end of the interview he does a crazy loopy hand signal to viewers, insinuating that his guest is crazy.  This is clear, unacceptable bias.

See this interview with Bilderberg researcher Tony Gosling:

See this BBC reporter (quite difficult to hear her questions but they are clearly biased, she was briefed to antagonise Jones clearly)

I was at the Bilderberg Fringe Festival (a space for peaceful protest and platform for opposition of the group’s meetings to publicly state why they oppose it) where I saw firsthand how the BBC was biased in it’s coverage.  It’s really opened my eyes, before I trusted the BBC to an extent. One of the speakers at the Bilderberg fringe festival was child actor Ben Fellows who has been involved in a criminal investigation into Kenneth Clarke’s alleged link to the paedophile ring as uncovered in the BBC via Saville-gate.  I can only imagine that the BBC are concerned that further evidence is going to come to light about not only their ingrained corruption but it’s links to Parliament.  It’s a total can of worms.”