Open thread – for comments of general Biased BBC interest:


Please use this thread for off-topic, but preferably BBC related, comments. Please keep comments on other threads to the topic at hand. N.B. this is not an invitation for general off-topic comments – our aim is to maintain order and clarity on the topic-specific threads. This post will remain at or near the top of the blog. Please scroll down to find new topic-specific posts.

Bookmark the permalink.

653 Responses to Open thread – for comments of general Biased BBC interest:

  1. Ultraviolets says:

    Stowboi: I think they might be Catholic nuns.

       0 likes

  2. Richy says:

    Zarkozy wins the Presidency of France, the third paragraph of the main BBC article on this topic states that:

    “Riot police are reported to have fired tear gas at demonstrators protesting in central Paris at Mr Sarkozy’s victory”

    Then a couple of paragraph’s later:

    Police deployed (in bold)

    I contrasted this coverage with CNN, NBC, Reuters.

    http://uk.reuters.com/article/UKBudget/idUKL1617755120070506?&src=050607_1543_TOPSTORY_sarkozy_elected_frances_president

    Looked to me like the BBC were overplaying the demonstrations in comparison with the other sources. Made me wonder slightly whether they were following Royal’s argument or not.

    Knowing the BBC however, I doubt that they would ever put an angle on a story like that though.

       0 likes

  3. Jon says:

    “I think they might be Catholic nuns.”

    Passing the mouse over the picture displays “French nuns vote in Jeruselem underneath Sarkozy and Royal posters”

    It still seems an odd picture to show for French elections – its not something that would spring to mind when searching for a photograph to portray elections in France.

       0 likes

  4. Jon says:

    Richy: I think the BBC are portraying how “unpopular” Sarkozy is with the “minorities” in France – they seem to add this to everything.

    “A Sarkozy victory, she added, “would be like a punishment from God” because of his “terrible character”.

    More than 3,000 police have been deployed in Paris and its multi-ethnic suburbs to prevent a repeat of the 2005 riots if, as many expect, Nicolas Sarkozy celebrates a victory on Sunday night.”

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6629077.stm

       0 likes

  5. Fiona says:

    I’ve just watched the report on BBC News24. An interesting comment from the correpsondent. He said that Sarkozy sent a “message of tough love to the United States”….

    Funny, I didn’t see it that way, but that’s the BBC for you.

       0 likes

  6. Bryan says:

    “French nuns” – er, oops. Face reddens. And “Jerusalem”, to boot. I wonder who they voted for.

    The mood on the World Service could only be described as sombre on Sarkozy’s victory. One hack interviewed two jubilant members of his party. He kept trying to ask them what they thought Royale and her crew were going through, but the two just kept brushing him off – probably because they just didn’t understand what he was on about.

    I know it’s traditional to have a word or two about your defeated opponent but the BBC seemed to want the two to apologise to Royale for defeating her.

    And the World Service was still pushing the line of possible violence even after Sarkozy’s victory. It was totally bizarre, almost like they were encouraging it.

       0 likes

  7. Anonymous says:

    “Route map of the Queen’s carbon-offset state visit”

    Total air miles – 13,317 km or 8,275 miles
    Amount of CO2 emitted based on scheduled flights – 1. 5 tonnes
    Estimated offset cost per person – £13.20 to £14.18 ($26.22-$28.17) depending on type of offset package
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6627481.stm#carbon

    This is getting ridiculous !!

       0 likes

  8. Jon says:

    Anonymous | 06.05.07 – 11:40 pm was me.

       0 likes

  9. Jon says:

    “The government faces a legal challenge for sending every secondary school in England a copy of Al Gore’s climate change film An Inconvenient Truth reports the BBC.
    A father from Kent, Stuart Dimmock, has lodged papers at London’s High Court seeking judicial review. He is reportedly also seeking to prevent schools receiving the DVDs.
    The Department for Education and Skills confirmed on Thursday it had sent out a resource pack for science, geography and citizenship lessons, as we reported here on Wednesday.
    We are upset that the BBC reporting on this issue remains bias, with no balance and only repeating word for word the Defra press release. There is no alternative view to the Defra plan, no comments from opposition spokespersons, and no interview with the litigant.
    However, it comes a no surprise to us, especially following the very one sided Labour bias reporting on the elections yesterday, allowing John Reid to set the agenda for the News24 coverage.”
    http://thejournal.parker-joseph.co.uk/blog/_archives/2007/5/5/2926203.html

    You can see the BBC report on this story – and I think you will agree that it is very one sided indeed. All one side with not even an interview or quote from the father.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/6625955.stm

    But this is not the only challange.

    “..a group of parents in the New Forest say the circulation of the film by the Government amounts to political indoctrination and is in breach of the Education Act 2002. Derek Tipp, their spokesman, has urged Mr Johnson to stop the film being sent out.”
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/04/17/nuni117.xml

       0 likes

  10. Anonanon says:

    Laban: Has anyone got a copy of Mark Steyn’s “Tales From Inside the Beeb” piece in the Wall Street Journal ?

    Lengthy extracts available here:
    http://freedomdogs.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1840&Itemid=1

       0 likes

  11. Allan@Aberdeen says:

    “The government faces a legal challenge for sending every secondary school in England a copy of Al Gore’s climate change film An Inconvenient Truth reports the BBC.”

    Believe it or not but in Shell Aberdeen, each of us received an invitation to watch the film showing “one man’s struggle against global warming” in company time. I sent back a reply asking why we, as engineers with high standards of scrutiny working in an oil company should watch a film which had been thoroughly debunked on Channel 4. Why not show both films and let the adults decide?

       0 likes

  12. dave t says:

    Ref all this carbon offset rubbish. Even the SNP sent out leaflets and an info pack that said on the back £3 paid to C N Do for carbon offsets. So Alex ‘Smug’ Salmond flying all over Scotland in his wee tartan budgie helicopter was all right as the SNP paid for carbon offsets? Given the rubbish Salmond spews into the atmosphere every time he opens his smirky wee gob he should be paying a lot more than £3 per leaflet!

    What a load of tosh!

       0 likes

  13. dave t says:

    And can anyone confirm the BBC has paid carbon offsets using OUR money for the hordes of reporters that keep flying back and forth over the Atlantic etc? Someone somewhere is making a fortune from the BBC and other media stirring up peoples’ fears about what may or may not actually be true about global warming cooling or whatever. I note Al Gore seems to be making lots of money out of it…..

       0 likes

  14. Jon says:

    Allan@Aberdeen: Its unbeliveable!!!

    Al Gores film is full of false and alarmist claims that are not even born out by the IPCC itself. Here is a link to 25 ” inconvenient truths” about Al Gores “documentary”.

    http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YmFiZDAyMWFhMGIxNTgwNGIyMjVkZjQ4OGFiZjFlNjc=

       0 likes

  15. pounce says:

    The BBC, it’ hatred of Israel and half story
    Israel accused of prisoner abuse
    Human rights groups in Israel have accused the security services of routinely mistreating Palestinian detainees. The two groups said detainees were held in appalling conditions, and were sometimes tortured. They said the maltreatment was intended to “break the spirit” of those who were being interrogated. Israel’s justice ministry rejected the report – which was published on Sunday – as unrepresentative and inaccurate. The report lists a number of techniques the two groups, B’Tselem and the HaMoked Centre for the Defence of the Individual, say are deployed by the Israeli Security Agency. They range from preventing detainees from contacting their lawyers, to painful shackling to a chair, threats and intimidation, beating and sleep deprivation. The groups drew on the testimony of 73 Palestinians detained over a six-month period.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6630139.stm

    Once again the great BBC exposes the security forces of Israel for not playing by the rules when they interrogate terrorist suspects.
    However that sad git pounce actually read the report the BBC reports on and here are a few pointers the BBC kind of omits from its version of that story;
    1) The report actually starts with the line “In recent years, Israel has openly admitted that ISA (formerly the General Security Service) interrogators employ “exceptional” interrogation methods and “physical pressure” against Palestinian detainees in situations labeled “ticking bombs”.
    2) I wonder what the phrase ‘ticking bomb’ means BBC?
    3) How out of those 73 people the BBC tries to allege at the start of the article as being victims of torture. The total tally actually adds up to 59;

    Sleep deprivation for over 24 hours (15 cases);

    “Dry” beatings (17 cases);

    Painful tightening of handcuffs, sometimes while cutting off blood flow (5 cases);

    Sudden pulling of the body while causing pain in the hand joints which are cuffed to the chair (6 cases);

    Sudden tilting of the head sideways or backwards (8 cases);

    The “frog” crouch (forcing the detainees to crouch on tiptoes) accompanied by shoving (3 cases);

    The “banana” position – bending the back of the interrogee in an arch while he is seated on a backless chair (5 cases).

    4) Ref that 500 complaints BBC (in perhaps 6 months?) at the end of the article you forgot to mention that it is actually since 2001.

    Once again the BBC fudges the story in which to attack Israel. (May explain why the BBC hasn’t reported on this story)
    http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article2519073.ece
    as the bad guy in the region.
    The BBC, it’ hatred of Israel and half story

       0 likes

  16. Jon says:

    “Records show that Al and Tipper Gore paid a monthly gas-and-electric bill of $2,400 for their 20-room mansion and related outbuildings. That includes $500 a month for their poolhouse. Gore claimed that he bought “carbon offsets” to make up for his $30K annual energy tab. Where did he buy offsets? From Generation Investment Management (GIM), a firm which lists Gore as Chairman”

    http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2007/03/inconvenient-offset-quick-recap-records.html

       0 likes

  17. Jon says:

    “Wanton profiteering appears to be at the very heart of “carbon offsets.” Put simply, a wide range of respected scientists, environmentalists, researchers, agriculturalists, and activists believe that carbon offsets are “scam”, “fantasy”, “fiction”, “nonsense”, “fraudulent” and worse. And they’ve been saying so since 2000, though to read the newspaper you wouldn’t know it.”
    http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2007/03/inconvenient-offset-quick-recap-records.html

    But the BBC will not tell you this.

       0 likes

  18. Ultraviolets says:

    “”Records show that Al and Tipper Gore paid a monthly gas-and-electric bill of $2,400 for their 20-room mansion and related outbuildings. That includes $500 a month for their poolhouse. Gore claimed that he bought “carbon offsets” to make up for his $30K annual energy tab. Where did he buy offsets? From Generation Investment Management (GIM), a firm which lists Gore as Chairman”

    My lord they are just decadent. I bet Tipper Gore even bathes in virgins blood.

       0 likes

  19. Susan says:

    Why d’ya think we Yanks call Gore “Prince Albert?” Because of his homespun, humble ways? $500 per month for the poolhouse alone? That is about 3 times what I pay for my HOUSE per month. And why would anyone need to heat a poolhouse anyways? Don’t you only use it in the summer? The man is daft.

       0 likes

  20. Bill Jones says:

    If the people pushing carbon offsets are to be taken seriously, they are going to have to take serious verifiable actions that go beyond investing in pie in the sky technologies.

    Perhaps something like purchasing high powered armaments and sending them off to some of the worlds major trouble spots or making a generous donation to providers of abortions for the poor.

    If you are reluctant to decrease your own carbon “footprint” the next best thing is to eliminate someone else’s footprints altogether.

    No…to harsh. Let’s just take more taxes from people and the industries that supply their jobs.

    That should do the trick.

       0 likes

  21. Anonymous says:

    .
    Black Death bacteria found in bins left uncollected for fortnight:

    “Dustbins which are only emptied once a fortnight have been found to harbour bugs from the same family of bacteria that ravaged Europe during the Black Death.”
    More
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=453100&in_page_id=1770

       0 likes

  22. Chuffer says:

    French election coverage:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6631309.stm

    Interesting comment in this article:
    Mr Sarkozy, 52, the son of a Hungarian immigrant, won enemies as interior minister for his harsh condemnation of rioters during urban unrest two years ago.

    It’s fairly obvious that he also won a lot of friends! I think what Al-BBC are trying to say is: “We at Al-BBC do not approve of his harsh condemnation of rioters during urban unrest two years ago.”

       0 likes

  23. Allan@Aberdeen says:

    Radio 4 is rabbiting on about Sarkozy being “divisive”. From the figures in from the election, Sarko got 53% which makes him less divisive than Sego who got 47%. I think the BBC will be reporting the new French President in this manner.

       0 likes

  24. Oscar says:

    Allan@Aberdeen | 07.05.07 – 9:25 am

    The number of times the Today programme used the word ‘divisive’ to describe Sarkozy this morning was incredible. This is al beebs new indoctrinating label, following on from the constant repetition of the ‘scum’ anecdote. So after winning 53% of the vote and a statesmanlike speech that emphasised French unity and the BBC make out – not just that Sarkozy ‘polarises’ opinion (the usual passive description) but is actively going out to ‘divide’ the people. And the daily round of violence that usually goes unreported in France is being sexed up for the purposes of wrecking Sarkozy’s reputation before he’s even started. Every time the boys from the banlieues get onto the streets the story will now be – it’s all because of Sarko. (the Pal-Israel inversion transferred to France).

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/016321.php

       0 likes

  25. Chuffer says:

    On this page http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6631001.stm Al-BBC go further, actually blaming Sarkozy for the riots!
    See caption to picture, halfway down:
    “In 2005, Sarkozy’s un-ministerial language helped set France alight.!

       0 likes

  26. Anonanon says:

    Not on the BBC:
    A Kassam rocket fired from the Gaza Strip slammed into a Sderot home that was close to a kindergarten early Monday morning, less than a day after a rocket attack on a local gas station wounded two people… The IDF said 10 Kassam rockets have been fired at Israel since Friday. Two more were fired Sunday night, but landed in open fields.
    http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1178431586649&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

    Still no online report about the attack on the UN school in Gaza.

    Still no report about the newly-built girls’ school in Iraq which was rigged with explosives.

    Nothing to see here, please move along to our reports about American and Israeli torture.

       0 likes

  27. korova says:

    Given your continual criticism of barbaric practices in the Middle East, I look forward to your criticism of the BBC’s failure to cover this story:

    http://www.amnesty.org.uk/news_details.asp?NewsID=17351

    And I hope to hear that you have added your names to the petition:

    http://www.petitiononline.com/kurdish/petition.html

    I mean, you wouldn’t want to be accused of double standards, would you?

       0 likes

  28. adam smith says:

    During the course of the Fench election campaign, BBC reporters constantly referred to Sarkozy’s “harsh liberal economic policies” — i.e. people earning their own living, as most of us have to do.

    This was invariably contrasted by the BBC with Segolene Royale’s “caring and nurturing policies” — i.e. people living on state handouts, as the BBC does.

    The BBC’s leftist economic bias is innate, and is caused by its own dependency on a form of compulsory taxation. The BBC itself is beyond reform, and can only be privatised or abolished.

       0 likes

  29. Bryan says:

    korova,

    Who wouldn’t condemn that? What has it got to do with double standards or our take on the BBC?

       0 likes

  30. Biodegradable says:

    The BBC finally gets around to reporting rocket attacks on Israel.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6631725.stm

    Palestinian militants in Gaza have fired a rocket into Israel.

    This continues a series of attacks they say are in retaliation for Israeli incursions in the West Bank.

    That explains it then, it’s the Jews’ fault!

       0 likes

  31. Biodegradable says:

    I mean, you wouldn’t want to be accused of double standards, would you?
    korova | Homepage | 07.05.07 – 11:05 am

    Did the BBC cover that story?

       0 likes

  32. korova says:

    So, Bryan and Biodegradable, I take it you have signed the petition?

       0 likes

  33. Gil says:

    Have you noticed that Korova chooses to call Sarkozy a ‘bastard’ on her website?

    Korova, he may be a bastard, but he is OUR bastard. And our bastard won more votes.

       0 likes

  34. Biodegradable says:

    So, Bryan and Biodegradable, I take it you have signed the petition?
    korova | 07.05.07 – 11:22 am

    Did the BBC cover the story?

       0 likes

  35. Mike Davies says:

    Korova, I second Bryan’s request for clarification. Specifically, what has condemning a honour-killing in N.Iraq got to do with ‘double standards’ on a site devoted to BBC bias ?

       0 likes

  36. deegee says:

    Anonanon:
    Still no online report about the attack on the UN school in Gaza.

    I don’t suppose there could be. The BBC’s one correspondent in Gaza is temporarily (one hopes) unable to carry out his duties.

       0 likes

  37. Biodegradable says:

    Have you noticed that Korova chooses to call Sarkozy a ‘bastard’ on her website?

    And campaigns to free Australian terrorists, supports Hamas, is against forced labour in Bolivia, wants to impeach Cheney… what a predictable, misguided do-gooder!

       0 likes

  38. Biodegradable says:

    deegee | 07.05.07 – 11:48 am

    It’s all because of Israel’s mistreatment of journalists you know.

    http://www.maannews.net/en/index.php?opr=ShowDetails&ID=21827

    Chutzpah or what?

       0 likes

  39. korova says:

    And campaigns to free Australian terrorists, supports Hamas, is against forced labour in Bolivia, wants to impeach Cheney… what a predictable, misguided do-gooder!
    Biodegradable | 07.05.07 – 11:48 am | #

    So is it mis-guided to be appalled by the stoning of a 17 year old girl for going out with a Muslim boy?? Yep, I’m ‘mis-guided’.

    And no, the BBC didn’t cover it, which is my point. I would think you guys would be first to criticise the BBC for failing to report the barbaric deeds carried out in the Middle East.

       0 likes

  40. Mike Davies says:

    You seem to be implying, korova, that commenters here were aware of this murder, aware that the BBC failed to cover it, but chose not to criticise the BBC because of a ‘double standard’.

    What double standard? I’m puzzled.

       0 likes

  41. korova says:

    Well, Mike, now that you are aware of it, why not condemn it?

       0 likes

  42. John Reith says:

    adam smith | 07.05.07 – 11:06 am

    During the course of the French election campaign, BBC reporters constantly referred to Sarkozy’s “harsh liberal economic policies”

    Really?

    A search of news.bbc.co.uk for “harsh liberal economic policies” + Sarkozy returns precisely zero results.

    This was invariably contrasted by the BBC with Segolene Royal’s “caring and nurturing policies”

    Invariably, eh? Shouldn’t be too hard to find an instance on the website then.

    Blow me down. A search for “caring and nurturing policies” + Segolene Royal……… returns no results either.

    Perhaps you imagined it all?

    http://www.google.co.uk/search?as_q=sarkozy&hl=en&num=10&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=harsh+liberal+economic+policies&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=news.bbc.co.uk&as_rights=&safe=images

    http://www.google.co.uk/search?as_q=segolene+royal&hl=en&num=10&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=caring+and+nurturing+policies&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=news.bbc.co.uk&as_rights=&safe=images

       0 likes

  43. John Reith says:

    Oscar | 07.05.07 – 9:45 am + Chuffer | 07.05.07 – 10:32 am

    the daily round of violence that usually goes unreported in France is being sexed up {by implication • by the BBC} for the purposes of wrecking Sarkozy’s reputation

    Contrast the BBC’s take on this with, say, that of FOX NEWS:

    Riots Break Out After Sarkozy Wins French Presidential Election

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,270398,00.html

       0 likes

  44. Anonymous says:

    HAMAS’ BLOODY ‘MODERATES’

    The next time you hear political leaders talking about the urgent need for Israel to sit down with the Hamas-led Palestinian government, consider the recent sermon delivered by Sheik Ahmad Bahr, acting speaker of the Palestinian Legislative Council.

    Broadcast over Sudan TV last month, Bahr’s screed predicted Islam’s eventual triumph worldwide and called for the destruction of both Israel and America – and all the people of each nation.

    “Oh Allah, vanquish the Jews and their supporters,” said Bahr, according to a transcript by the Middle East Media Research Institute. “Oh Allah, count their numbers and kill them all, down to the very last one . . . Defeat the Jews and the Americans.”

    Indeed, he added, Americans “are cowards who are eager for life, while we are eager for death for the sake of Allah. That is why America’s nose was rubbed in the mud in Iraq, in Afghanistan, in Somalia and everywhere.”

    Lovely fellow, no?

    So much for the canard, now being advanced by the mainstream media, that Hamas is split into two wings: one military, which carries out terrorist bombings; and one political, which is more moderate and is interested in reaching a political settlement.

    This was the same line, recall, that was used to prop up the Irish Republican Army’s public faces, like Gerry Adams.

    Except that Adams never called on God to annihilate the United Kingdom.

    In recent weeks, the Bush administration has tried to prop up the Palestinian government by providing millions in aid; just last month, the White House cleared $60 million – mostly for “non-lethal” training of the Palestinian security forces loyal to President Mahmoud Abbas.

    Yes, those funds are meant to bypass Hamas. But as long as Hamas – and people like Ahmad Bahr – control the reins of Palestinian government, it’s no secret where the money will end up.
    http://www.nypost.com/seven/05052007/postopinion/editorials/hamas_bloody_moderates_editorials_.htm

       0 likes

  45. Mike Davies says:

    Korova, I’m merely asking where the double standard could be.

       0 likes

  46. JimBob says:

    On the subject of Sarkozy

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6631309.stm

    Several hundred rioters in the Place de la Bastille threw bottles and stones at police, shouting “Sarko-fascist”.

    If the socialist had won, the ‘right wingers’ would have just shrugged their shoulders, moaned a bit and gone home. The lefties, on the other hand, when they don’t get their way, they take to the streets shouting things like ‘fascist’. They (and people like The Fat Contractor) don’t seem to understand the hypocrisy of their ways.

    DEMOCRACY has taken place. It’s as simple as that.

    The BBC and others try to demonise him before he’s had a day in office.
    It wouldn’t surprise me if the BBC only now start reporting the riots that currently take place every night in Paris and point the finger at Sarkozy.

       0 likes

  47. Anonymous says:

    France Elects a Thatcherite President

    He is a friend of American and was invited to the White House to meet President Bush

    “On Sunday France elected a pro-American, conservative named Nicolas Sarkozy as its new president.

    When riots erupted in the predominantly Muslim slums around Paris in November 2005, Sarkozy called the youths who were ransacking stores and firebombing cars “scum,” and said the area needed to be “cleaned out with a power hose.”
    More
    http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/5/6/150434.shtml?s=lh

       0 likes

  48. solita says:

    Why isn’t the BBC reporting this?

    http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/05/06/gaza.school.shooting/index.html

    Could it be because they don’t anymore have reporters covering Gaza?

    Well even if they do, its reporter would have spinned it into an anti-Israeli propaganda.

    Shame on the BBC.

       0 likes

  49. deegee says:

    korova:

    Let me be the one to take on the mantle of ‘hypocrite’.

    So is it mis-guided to be appalled by the stoning of a 17 year old girl for going out with a Muslim boy?? Yep, I’m ‘mis-guided’.

    This story gets more and more complicated. I always thought that Kurds are not only ‘Muslim’ but ‘Sunni Muslim’. They are just not Arabs!

    Now I find that even among the Kurds there is a non Muslim minority, the Yazidi. Yazidi are exclusive; clans do not intermarry even with other Kurds and accept no converts. Some (Muslim and others) consider the Yazidi to be devil worshippers.

    The BBC actually covered the story as did apparently half the world (check Google). The girl in question converted to Islam and ran off with the Sunni boy. Following the stoning gunmen – presumed to be Sunnis – stopped a bus bringing textile workers from Mosul back to the village. They separated 23 Yazidis from the others and shot them dead.

    Still the BBC assures us Once a mosaic of religious and ethnic groups who enjoyed a largely peaceful coexistence, Iraq is increasingly falling prey to sectarian suspicion and intolerance. Unless of course you rubbed Saddam Hussein the wrong way.

       0 likes

  50. Roger says:

    Britain’s growing race divide

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/6631541.stm

    As some Asians see the process, when they seek to integrate and live with whites the whites avoid them.

    Then, to add insult to injury, they complain that Asians don’t integrate. An Asian talks about taking chocolates round to his new, white neighbours, who then avoid making eye contact with him.

       0 likes