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A few points about previous posts:
The BBC doesn’t pay to offset carbon emissions.
Sir Patrick Moore says “I used to watch Doctor Who and Star Trek, but they went PC – making women commanders, that kind of thing’ – I think this is hilarious! Star Trek was supposed to be set in a Utopian society where sexism/racism etc was consigned to history. They had serving Klingons on board, so why wouldn’t there be women! Love Sir Patrick but he’s obviously getting on a bit.
About the Licence Fee: I pay for the NHS. I have no choice. I haven’t needed it in years, but the service is there if I need it. If it does something I object to, or treats me poorly, I can complain.
But when you consider the state of other publicly funded organisations in the UK and the level of waste involved, we are very lucky that we have the internationally envied BBC and the vast range of services it provides. (I really am trying to provoke you now!)
Joe,
Most of us here would rather purchase our own healthcare rather than hope a “generous” beurocrat gives us enough treatment rations to survive.
The bbc only jails people, the nhs kills.
Sir Patrick Moore has the courage to stand up and be counted. Good on him, too many women running the beeb he reckons, well, he could add too many women teachers as well. They are musch the same types, patronising, talking down to the captured audience, no wonder kida play truant, all we can do is defect to SKY but still have to pay for bog standard public broadcasting as well as education. More people than ever are paying for private education. Anyway back to the BBC, not only too many women but us blokes also feel ill watching the nuetered males who share the sofa with them, smiling back the supine smile of the lap dogs they are.
The BBC sucks.
Re. Jon and your comments about coverage of Madeleine McCann’s disappearance:
“Little information has been made public, prompting concerns the police are not doing enough.” – this is true, little info has been made available, it has prompted concern.
The report continues: “In an a interview with the BBC, Mr Carlos said that under Portuguese law there was very little information the police could disclose.
He said: “We are cooperating with Europol and Interpol and also with the British police.
“So for the police of course it is a completely open matter, but investigation is quite secretive and it has to carry on that way, due to our legal obligations that exist in Portugal.”
He added: “I ask you to trust the authorities. They are doing their best. If they cannot give you more information, it’s because they can’t.”
Police said they had widened their search to nine miles (15km) from Praia da Luz and are working with UK and other forces, taking witness statements and making inquiries into whether paedophile rings operate in the area.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6635463.stm
To coin a phrase, “You can tell who wears the trousers at the BBC”, and it ain’t us blokes.
Re. really disgruntled:
I don’t think your problem is with the BBC…you just seem to have a problem.
“This appointment caused a lot of resentment among the Jews. After all, Herod was not a Jew. He was the son of a man from Idumea; and although Antipater had been a pious man who had worshipped the Jewish God sincerely, the Jews had always looked down upon the Idumeans as racially impure. Worse, Herod had an Arabian mother, and it was commonly held that one could only be a Jew when one was born from a Jewish mother. ”
http://www.livius.org/he-hg/herodians/herod_the_great01.html
Grimer | 08.05.07 – 6:20 pm |
Incredible.
And where did the BBC find that Newsround editor? He’s like the leader of the Legs Akimbo Theatre Company from the League of Gentleman.
If this doesn’t warrant a post on the Biased BBC blog I think it might be time to start Biased BBC2.
Grimer:
Incredible.
Jaw dropping is what I’d say. The editor having defended the protrayal of President Bush then goes on to say that they did point out later in the bulletin that he was the most powerful man in the world.
So to sum up:
Here you are children. This is George Bush, he’s the most powerful man in the world. Isn’t he a buffoon’ That’s the only message that comes out of that piece. Disgraceful BBC.
“Little information has been made public, prompting concerns the police are not doing enough.” – this is true, little info has been made available, it has prompted concern.”
And who says it is causing concern? The media thats who. It is the media who spread concern through their insensabilties. They are swarming around looking for a “story”.
“But, after the local polícia judiciária, Portugal’s criminal police, took over a case the authorities say is unprecedented in the area, their lack of resources and experience in dealing with the media drew fresh criticism. ”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6632325.stm
It is the media who are whipping up the criticism – If they have no experience in dealing with the media is neither here nor there – they are police – not PR merchants like our very own PC Met.
Qutes from Newsround editor Tim Levell:
“If I had a regret it’s that we didn’t have a vote at the end of it – a text vote or something – where we said, “Is Bush a dude or a dodo?”
“I don’t think the BBC is institutionally anti-Bush.”
“He is the world’s most powerful man. If we can’t put him in a cartoon what can we do?”
“Relations with the British media are all the more important given the huge importance of tourism in the Algarve and the damage the case could do to its image and so to the regional economy.”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6632325.stm
Sounds like a threat to me!!
“..internationally envied BBC ”
Its not envied for its output – it is envied because it can demand money with menaces and get away with it.
Vol II Ch 7.
John Reith | 07.05.07 – 10:39 pm
Hats off to you John Reith – you certainly know your Mein Kampf (or you’ve got a very good researcher). I must have forgotten that bit – it was such a bloody awful, badly written tome. This quote does give a very good idea of how pathetically provocative and rather childish these evil people could be.
Anonanon:
Quotes from Newsround editor Tim Levell:
“He is the world’s most powerful man. If we can’t put him in a cartoon what can we do?”
Doesn’t Tim Levell really know the difference between satire for adults and an informative programme for children? Or is he in a hole and just can’t stop digging?
Is there some kind of guidelines for people the BBC is not allowed to insult and those it has a duty to insult?
“Hats off to you John Reith – you certainly know your Mein Kampf”
He may be able to read it but he does not understand it.
NOtice how little coverage the BBC gave to the EU withdrawal of the “Imperial measures (you’re all bloody criminals) act”. ON mention at the 6.30 news. They must be choking on their vomit at BBC Pro-Euro HQ. I bet the b’stards go on using metric in stories where it’s not required (like those originating int he USA) and forcing poor oiks like Bob Flowerdew to tell us that he plants out his corn seedlings at 12 cm distances.
“..internationally envied BBC “”
Hahahahahahahahaha…
In the third world maybe……..but I don’t see many “developed” nations using the BBC as a main media channel……the USA has it’s own stations, as does all of Europe…..
The BBC is seen as an international joke now, and in the States it is laughed out of court as “batting for the other side”…
The only people who think the BBC is envied, are morons who work at the BBC who believe their own hype……plummeting ratings across the BBC should be an indication to these fools that the BBC is DYING…….not getting stronger, it is getting older, and dying……the internet will deliver the final blow to the old corporation….TV is obsolete…as is the BBC.
no no..the cat is out of the bag…the BBC has been rumbled…..it will die when this Labour government finaly falls…..it’s so bloody obvious that this is going to happen……lol.
Can’t wait…. 🙂
Where’s Archduke on this historic day? Would be interesting to know what he thinks of the coverage from Stormont.
Anonanon:
Quotes from Newsround editor Tim Levell:
“He is the world’s most powerful man. If we can’t put him in a cartoon what can we do?”
I commented on Newsround’s ‘get Bush’ fest (which I happened to catch by chance) at the time. As the BBBC archive is no longer available I can’t link to it, but I’m sure Joe will remember the little spat we had about it. It was THE most blatant anti-Bush propaganda – outrageous to do it and outrageous to defend it. What Newswatch doesn’t mention – and what totally skewers Levell’s ‘education about an important man’ who the good ole BBC is ‘laughing with not at’ argument – is the way the piece ended, which went like this (I paraphrase) “Well at least Bush won’t be in the job for much longer. Maybe next he’ll take up his real vocation as a comedian”. Laughing with Bush? More like the BBC having a laugh at all our expense (literally).
The BBC, its hatred of America and half a story
BBC Version
Wolfowitz awaits World Bank fate
The fate of Paul Wolfowitz is set to be decided as the World Bank reviews the findings of a report into his role in a promotion row involving his partner. The New York Times said the World Bank boss would be found to have breached the lending body’s rules, increasing pressure on him to step down. There have been fresh calls for his resignation from European ministers but the US has reiterated its support.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6636037.stm
International Herald tribune version
Deal is offered for chief’s exit at World Bank
Leading governments of Europe, mounting a new campaign to push Paul Wolfowitz from his job as World Bank president, signaled Monday that they were willing to let the United States choose the bank’s next chief, but only if Wolfowitz stepped down soon, European officials said.
European officials had previously indicated that they wanted to end the tradition of the United States picking the World Bank leader. But now the officials are hoping to enlist American help in persuading Wolfowitz to resign voluntarily, rather than be rebuked or ousted.
http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/05/08/america/08wolfowitz.php
According to the BBC, Wolfowitz has to leave because he was nepotistic to his girlfriend. Reading the tribune you find that Europe (Read EU) objects because America always picks the leader of the World Bank.
I wonder why the BBC promotes the scandal when the IHT offers the news. Funny thing is I don’t see how the BBC relates how the British government is not only guilty of the same crime. (Blunkett anybody?) But that Blunkett was given jobs after getting caught with his dick in another mans woman. (Something the European elites seem to excel at. (That doesn’t include Mandleson who prefers arses))
The BBC and how it spins a story for its Islamic masters
Israelis from Iraq remember Babylon
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6611667.stm
Err BBC shouldn’t the correct title be;
Jewish refugee from Iraq remembers Babylon
But as usual (I know somebody broached the subject earlier on)
The BBC goes into spin mode in which to blank out how Jews from Arab Muslim countries were kicked out of their Homelands when Israel was formed.
“But many who came over to Israel as part of the mass migration that followed the creation of the Jewish state in 1948, look back with nostalgia and fondness for the life that they had left behind.”
So the so called impartial BBC which has no problem reporting how Palestinians were kicked out of their homelands by the nasty Jews and reports their status as refugees. (Didn’t help Alan Johnson one bit) refers to the Jewish version of the Pals as Migrants.
Migrants BBC? What next from the pen of those who defend Allah. That Islam means ‘Peace and is a religion of Peace. Silly me Yusuf Islam mentioned exactly that on Sunday morning.
Err BBC ‘Islam’ means submission. Something the merchant bankers at the beeb do on a daily basis to the ROP™
How the BBC reports the news for its Islamic masters
US attack ‘kills Iraqi children’
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6637307.stm
You’d think that now (With Al Beeb hoping Alan Johnson doesn’t suffer the fate of a certain jew called Pearl) they would give up trying to paint America as the enemy.
The BBC and half a story
What the BBC tells you;
Rally call for migrant ‘amnesty’
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6631193.stm
What the BBC doesn’t tell you
Government unites to block benefits of Britain to illegal immigrants
07 March 2007
Blocking the benefits of Britain to those in the UK illegally is at the heart of a new cross-Government enforcement strategy published by the Home Office today.
The strategy is focused on fairness and enforcing the rules. It will allow the Immigration and Nationality Directorate (IND) to progressively deny work, benefits and services to those here illegally by working in partnership with tax authorities, benefits agencies, Government Departments, local authorities, police and the private sector.
http://www.ind.homeoffice.gov.uk/aboutus/newsarchive/governmentunitestoblockbenefits
US attack ‘kills Iraqi children’
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world…ast/ 6637307.stm
pounce | 08.05.07 – 10:36 pm
What do we find reading the report?
One police officer said the helicopter was shot at from the ground during the morning.
The school was said to have been hit when the aircraft returned fire.
So, reading between the lines the helicopter was shot at from or very close to the school – the helicopter returned fire towards the location from whence the fire originated.
Reminds me of the UN post in Southern Lebanon hit by Israeli artillery fire aimed at Hezballah who were firing from just outside the UN post.
We discussed that quoting Geneva Conventions and the Laws & Customs of War which basically say those responsible for civilian deaths in these cases are the ones using civilans as human shields or cover.
So, in this case, while it’s true that it was (allegedly) US helicopter fire that killed the kids, the responsibility lies with the “insurgents” who fired at the ‘copter from or very close to the school.
Regarding the kiddie presumed abducted in Portugal. While I’d hate to add further suffering to the parents who must be out of their minds with worry, I’m concerned that all the blame is being laid at the door of the Portugese police.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/leicestershire/6623127.stm
Gill Renwick, a friend of the family, said Madeleine’s parents – both doctors – had been having a meal in a tapas restaurant a few hundred yards from the apartment and had been checking on the little girl and her younger brother and sister (two-year-old twins) every half hour.
Let me get this right. The parents leave two-year-old twins and the three-year-old alone and unsupervised in the apartment while they go to eat “a few hundred yards” away.
Isn’t it criminal offence in the UK to leave kids younger than 12 unattended?
Since the BBC scrupulously shuns editorializing, the ‘not liked here’ thing doesn’t apply. Not liked by which reporter/producer/editor, which department head? I had rather hoped you had got beyond the ‘BBC as monolith’ myth.
John Reith | 08.05.07 – 8:23 am | #
Collective ‘groupthink’, but what do you expect if you employ the majority if your staff through adds placed in the Guardian…
http://theamericanexpatinuk.blogspot.com/2005/11/bbcguardian-partnership.html
“editorializing” is Reith an American? or have the BBC forgot that in English we usually use s not z. – “editorialising” – what ever happened to BBC English?
“I don’t think the BBC is institutionally anti-Bush.”
Maybe not all people sign-up to the Anti-Bush doctrine, but the people above the glass ceiling who dictate the policy certainly are. Patrick Moore has no need to worry.
“So, in this case, while it’s true that it was (allegedly) US helicopter fire that killed the kids, the responsibility lies with the “insurgents” who fired at the ‘copter from or very close to the school.”
Ah, Colonel Kurtz esque moral realism. But being Muslims their conscience need not trouble them.
Nick Robinson on BBC1 10 o’clock news must have put in the most pro-Blair report that I’ve ever seen on the BBC.
Apparantly the whole peace process is down to him.
Unbelievable.
Jon writes:
“”editorializing” is Reith an American? or have the BBC forgot that in English we usually use s not z. – “editorialising” – what ever happened to BBC English?”
Actually, the use of ‘z’ is traditional in British English and is still the standard at the OED. The use of ‘s’ came later and is still frowned on by some.
tom atkins writes:
“Nick Robinson on BBC1 10 o’clock news must have put in the most pro-Blair report that I’ve ever seen on the BBC.”
I missed that but there have been some encomia of truly nauseating depths all over the BBC, of late. Radio 4, in particular, has been vile.
But being Muslims their conscience need not trouble them.
Ultraviolets | 09.05.07 – 12:26 am
Nor does “moral realism” trouble the BBC, it seems.
Not Colonel Kurtz.
http://www.zionism-israel.com/log/archives/00000170.html
Both Protocol I and Article 28 of the Geneva Convention (IV) make clear that “the deliberate intermingling of civilians and combatants, designed to create a situation in which any attack against combatants would necessarily entail an excessive number of casualties is a flagrant breach of the Law of International Armed Conflict,”
…
Article 51(7) of Protocol I states: “The presence or movements of the civilian population or individual civilians shall not be used to render certain points or areas immune from military operations, in particular attempts to shield military objectives from attacks or to shield, favour or impede military operations.” And the Geneva Convention (IV) holds that “The presence of a protected person may not be used to render certain points of areas immune from military operations.” (Geneva Convention Relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War, 1949, Laws of Armed Conflicts, 495, 511.) Moreover, the Rome Statute is clear that “utilizing the presence of civilians or other protected persons to render certain points, areas or military forces immune from military operations is recognized as a war crime by Article 8 (2) (b) (xxiii)”. (Dinstein, p. 130)
…
The above considerations pertain to the norms deriving from treaty law (e.g., the Geneva Conventions). But there is another set of standards which are relevant to the question of proportionality which derive from another source of international law, known as customary international law. Together with treaties, customary law is one of the main sources of international humanitarian law (IHL), or the laws of war. Dinstein explains that “Customary international law is certainly more rigorous than the [Geneva] Protocol on this point. It has traditionally been perceived that, should civilian casualties ensue from an attempt to shield combatants or a military objective, the ultimate responsibility lies with the belligerent [party] placing innocent civilians at risk. A belligerent…is not vested by the laws of international armed conflict with the power to block an otherwise legitimate attack against combatants (or military objectives) by deliberately placing civilians in harm’s way.”
GCooper: I sand corrected.
“The broad rule is that the -ize forms are standard in the US, but that -ise ones are now usual in Britain and the Commonwealth in all but formal writing. For example, all British newspapers use the -ise forms; so do most magazines and most non-academic books published in the UK. However, some British publishers insist on the -ize forms (Oxford University Press especially), as do many academic journals and a few other publications (the SF magazine Interzone comes to mind). Most British dictionaries quote both forms, but — despite common usage — put the -ize form first.”
http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-ise1.htm
But I am with the writer of the piece whan he says – “I like the -ise forms myself, in part because being British I was brought up to spell them that way”
I sand corrected oops = I stand corrected.
Jon writes:
“But I am with the writer of the piece whan he says – “I like the -ise forms myself, in part because being British I was brought up to spell them that way”
I agree with you and find “ize” tends to jump out of the page at me.
That said, it’s best to be correct about these things. We all know what Reith is like…
Kurtz realism, as in, ‘we want to win and we don’t care how’. Even if it means using the enemys morality against him by firing from hospitals or indeed civilian UN bases.
Actually, the use of ‘z’ is traditional in British English and is still the standard at the OED. The use of ‘s’ came later and is still frowned on by some.
GCooper | 09.05.07 – 12:35 am
I was thinking exactly the same thing. Reith’s use of the ‘z’ here, along with other clues, place him among those of a certain vintage.
Strange, though. I would have thought the Americans would have been the ones to discriminate against the humble ‘zed’.
After all, they call it a ‘zee’. But they have honoured it while the British have stifled it.
Please note, any BBC lurkers: this is a fun comment, not an anti-American one.
BBC checks ‘Alan Johnston tape’
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6637507.stm
I thought BBC atleast describes the content of the tape. No, it didn’t.
Journalism at it’s Worst.
“It includes certain demands and shows pictures, including one apparently of Mr Johnston’s BBC identity card.”
What are those demands?
“It was delivered to al-Jazeera in Gaza and was made by a group calling itself Jaish-e-al-Islam (The Army of Islam). ”
——————————
Now, from Al-jazeera:
“A group called Jaish al-Islam, or Army of Islam, has claimed to be holding Alan Johnston, the BBC’s missing Gaza correspondent, and demanded Muslim prisoners in Britain be freed in exchange for his release. ”
And now about the Terrorist group
” Jaish al-Islam was not a group seen on Gaza’s streets and only came to prominence last year when it participated in the capture of Israeli Corporal Gilad Shalit alongside the more established Hamas and Popular Resistance Committees.”
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/A23773B1-8D4C-4081-A36B-182D91AA8044.htm
Two US politicians have number troubles:
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8P0K1FG2&show_article=1
http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Top_News/2007/05/09/bush_cant_top_queens_1776_joke/
Which one will the BBC report and which one will it ignore?
Ah, yes:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6637505.stm
The BBC have finally reported on the Hamas use of a Mickey Mouse figure to indoctrinate children to Jihad.
Palestinian Hamas takes Mickey but apparently not ‘the’ mickey.
Compare the bland BBC version with PMW’s Hamas steals Mickey Mouse image to teach hate and Islamic supremacy
It is the usual half-a-story. One thing struck me immediately. The article is illustrated by the ‘real’ mouse. Caption: The real thing. But Hamas’ Farfur is strikingly similar.
Didn’t anyone have 60 secs to produce a screen grab of the Palestinian mouse?
http://thumbsnap.com/v/txgaKY7u.jpg
Perhaps they were afraid Disney would sue the BBC for breech of copyright ❓
Thanks for the comment Dermot
Also check Reuters on Yahoo News:
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20070509/tpl-uk-palestinians-johnston-4b8df73.html
DUBAI (Reuters) – A little-known Islamist group said it was holding the BBC’s Gaza correspondent Alan Johnston who disappeared eight weeks ago, according to an audio recording posted on the Internet on Wednesday.
“We demand that Britain free our prisoners, particularly the honourable Sheikh Abu Qatada al Filistini,” said a speaker on the tape from the Jaysh al Islam (Army of Islam) group. The authenticity of the tape could not immediately be verified.
I’m going to make a complaint, (sigh)
Text of my complaint:
“BBC CHECKS ALAN JOHNSTON TAPE:”
“The al-Jazeera news channel has received a tape purportedly from the kidnappers of the BBC’s Gaza correspondent Alan Johnston.
It includes certain demands and shows pictures, including one apparently of Mr Johnston’s BBC identity card.”
Why does the BBC not tell us about those “certain demands”? Why do you have to leave out this important detail? What upsets you so much that you cannot let the reader know those “demands”?
Demands that other news agencies know about:
Reuters Yahoo News:
Islamist group says holding BBC reporter
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20070509/tpl-uk-palestinians-johnston-4b8df73.html
“We demand that Britain free our prisoners, particularly the honourable Sheikh Abu Qatada al Filistini,” said a speaker on the tape from the Jaysh al Islam (Army of Islam) group. The authenticity of the tape could not immediately be verified.
Now, from Al-jazeera:
“A group called Jaish al-Islam, or Army of Islam, has claimed to be holding Alan Johnston, the BBC’s missing Gaza correspondent, and demanded Muslim prisoners in Britain be freed in exchange for his release. ”
And now about the Terrorist group
” Jaish al-Islam was not a group seen on Gaza’s streets and only came to prominence last year when it participated in the capture of Israeli Corporal Gilad Shalit alongside the more established Hamas and Popular Resistance Committees.”
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/ …82D91AA8044.htm
Walt Disney would be genuinely proud….
Ju,
Welcome.
As always, BBC tries to hide crucial information (I wonder why? May be to prevent any hard feelings on Palestinian Terrorists)
Ironically, BBC and it’s abducted reporter Alan Johnston have never missed a chance to praise Palestinians, their struggle, their life, their terrorism, their mosques (Al-Aqsa)etc.
korova,
I’d love to be a Journalist in Gaza. Will you help me?
Jon | 08.05.07 – 7:20 pm
A note on sources:
Earlier in this thread I cited Josephus in support of the fact that Herod was a Jew.
You have countered by citing an article – saying the opposite – by Jona Lendering.
Who was Josephus?
Born shortly after the death of Christ, Josephus was a first century Jewish historian, who has been held in high esteem by both Jewish and Christian scholars for many centuries. Writing close to the events, it is probable that Josephus knew people who lived during the time of Herod.
Who is Jona Lendering?
Jona Lendering acquired a Bachelor’s degree in History at the University of Leiden in 1993 and now works as a supply-teacher in Amsterdam.
Looking at the opening paragraph of Lendering’s essay on Herod the Great, we find:
Herod was born 73 BCE as the son of a man from Idumea named Antipater and a woman named Cyprus, the daughter of an Arabian sheik.
Lendering does not actually say this ‘Arabian sheikh’ was being driven to the Dorchester in a Mercedes, nevertheless the anachronism is glaring.
The word sheikh in Arabic did not acquire the meaning of ‘clan chief’ or ‘tribal elder’ until after the time of Mohammed. In the Koran its use is confined to its original root meaning: a very old person.
The Jewish historian, David Steinberg who studied under the Dead Sea scrolls expert Geza Vermes at Oxford, appears to prefer Josephus to Lendering. He also illustrated the perils (for today’s Zionists) of arguing that Idumeans were not authentic Jews:
Herod the Great, the Jewish king who rebuilt the temple, creating the splendid edifice described by Josephus and the Talmud, was a descendant of Idumean converts….Idumean contingents were noted for their courage in defending Jerusalem and suffered the same fate as other Jews when the rebellion was crushed. When the Roman armies of Hadrian, subsequent to crushing the Bar Kokhba Revolt (133-135 CE), drove the surviving Jews out of Judaea, he left in place the Jews of Idumea. Thus the late second century Jewish population of Judaea was mostly Idumean by origin.
(see: Steinberg, 1980 (2005 rev.) Arabs, Edomites & Jews)
Grimer | 08.05.07 – 6:20 pm | #
I watched the Newswatch that covered the Bush bashing on Newsround.
I really cannot see the point of this programme, a viewer puts a valid, reasonable complaint, and the beeb just has some numpty to snigger, and tell them “you`re wrong, we`re right, and keep paying your license fee.”
Total waste of time.