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  1. David Preiser (USA) says:

    And another biased piece of work from that biased piece of work, Jeremy Bowen:

    A Special Mid-East Anniversary Looms

    I know Bowen is a stock villain, and we are therefore supposed to ignore him, and Beeboids feel that there is no need to defend him. But everyone should still have a look at this first salvo in the BBC’s next propaganda project to demonize Israel and Jews.

    Key bits of bias:

    Bowen describes the scene in February of 1948, in the months leading up to the declaration of Israel as an independent state.

    “A civil war had begun between Palestine’s Arabs and Jews (in those days they didn’t call themselves Israelis; the new state of Israel did not declare itself independent until May).”

    What Bowen doesn’t want you to know – and the BBC has probably never told you – is that the Arabs didn’t call themselves “Palestinians” until much later. He even uses the term “Palestine’s Arabs” rather than “Palestinians” because he knows very well that this is true. Yet he cannot bring himself to tell you that because that would possibly detract in some small way from his beloved Palestinian cause. Why else mention one and not the other?

    Bowen soon slips easily into the usage of “Palestinian”. Of course, he knows that there was no such concept until around 1964, when the Palestinian Liberation Organization was formed. He also knows that this movement to destroy Israel was formed three years before 1967, the year which Bowen casually mentions at the end of this sentence:

    “The starting point for the border is, for the Palestinians at least, the line set in the 1949 armistice that ended the fighting. It is often called the 1967 boundary because it stood until then.”

    No mention of why or how that border changed. Must have been nasty Israel imperialist genocidal expansionism.

    Bowen saves the biggest cut for last:

    “One important thing to remember about 1948 is that is the biggest single landmark in a tale of two narratives.”

    What sort of “narrative” would Israel have for this landmark, Jez? As if I didn’t know.

    “This year will be a time for big celebrations for Israelis. Their achievement in building a modern, hi-tech, regional military superpower has been stunning.”

    That’s right. Israel’s only real accomplishment has been military nastiness.

    And Bowen’s take on the “narrative” of his beloved Palestinians:

    Palestinians believe it has been done at their expense, and this year will be another reminder for them of the destruction of their society and the wreck of their dreams.

    Yes, Jeremy, those damn Israelis have wrecked the Palestinians dreams. You know, those dreams about exterminating all the Jews in the region. And which Palestinian society got destroyed? I forget. Really. Atlantis, was it?

    When the Jews of Britain start having flashbacks to Medieval times, you’ll know why.

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  2. pounce (correction) says:

    The BBCs Abu Bowen , his hatred of Israel and half a story.

    A special Mid-East anniversary looms
    A famous Israeli writer once said that Jerusalem is the only place where the dead are more important than the living.
    That means that history is more alive in the Holy Land than anywhere else I can think of in the world. Any discussion about the Palestinians and the Israelis can, without being especially argumentative, rewind very fast back past Israel’s independence 60 years ago, through the British, the Turks, the Muslim conquest, to the Romans and beyond. For the last few weeks I have been looking into what was happening in the Middle East in 1948, the year of Israeli independence and of what Palestinians call their Nakba, or “catastrophe”.
    …..
    The starting point for the border is, for the Palestinians at least, the line set in the 1949 armistice that ended the fighting. It is often called the 1967 boundary because it stood until then.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7266424.stm

    Abu Bowen reports on the Birth of Israel and the Nakba. What is missing from his outpouring of grief for the Muslims of the Levant is this little snippet;
    1948 Arab-Israeli War
    The British mandate over Palestine was due to expire on 15 May, but Jewish Leadership led by future Prime Minister, David Ben-Gurion, declared independence on 14 May. The State of Israel declared itself as an independent nation, and was quickly recognized by the Soviet Union, the United States, and many other countries. Over the next few days, approximately 1,000 Lebanese, 5,000 Syrian, 5,000 Iraqi, 10,000 Egyptian troops invaded the newly-established state. Four thousand Transjordanian troops invaded the Corpus separatum region encompassing Jerusalem and its environs, as well as areas designated as part of the Arab state by the UN partition plan. They were aided by corps of volunteers from Saudi Arabia, Libya and Yemen…
    On 26 May 1948, the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) was officially established
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab-Israeli_War#Initial_line-up_of_forces

    Yes, the Arabs invaded Israel when it declared independence and 12 days before it even had an official army. Now the invading Arab armies told their Muslims brothers to leave so as not to get in the way of their tanks (The Jews had none)
    Now if you presume Abu Bowens stance on history as his own equate his version of History with the official BBC one.
    Israel founded: Armistice
    War broke out in 1948 when Britain withdrew, the Jews declared the state of Israel and troops from neighbouring Arab nations moved in.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/middle_east/03/v3_israel_palestinians/maps/html/israel_founded.stm

    According to the BBC’s official Palestine history. Muslim armies don’t invade they move in. Pity the BBC don’t return that sentiment for the 6 day war. (They don’t even mention the Yom Kippur war) Now type in Nakba in Wiki’s own search engine and it brings you to this page.
    Nakba Day
    Nakba Day (Arabic: يوم النكبة yawm al-nakba — 15 May) is the annual day of commemoration by Palestinian Arabs of the anniversary of the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948.[1][2] Palestinians “use it to commemorate the dispossession of hundreds of thousands of their people who were made homeless as Israel was born.” [3] Events in Palestine during the British mandate prior to Israel’s declaration of independence, as well as the 1948 Arab-Israeli War that erupted following the invasion by neighbouring Arab states, resulted in the flight or expulsion of an estimated 700,000 Palestinian refugees, [4] and the destruction and abandonment of up to 418 Palestinian villages. [5] Palestinian Arabs call these events al-Nakba (“the catastrophe”).
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba_Day

    So in a nutshell Nakba is due to the invasion of Israel by the arabs in 1948. Yet Abu Bowen leaves that fact out of his diatribe.

    And people wonder why Anti-Semitic behaviour is on the increase in the UK.

    The BBCs Abu Bowen , his hatred of Israel and half a story.

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  3. David Preiser (USA) says:

    pounce, sorry for the duplicate rant. Hopefully my fisking of Bowen’s language will supplement your informed breakdown.

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  4. Disinterested bystander says:

    Are you John Reith?
    The People’s Front of Judea | 27.02.08 – 7:03 pm |

    Good grief no.
    What on earth have I written to make you think that?
    Like you, I’ve changed my name after a contretemps.

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  5. pounce says:

    David Preiser wrote;
    “sorry for the duplicate rant. Hopefully my fisking of Bowen’s language will supplement your informed breakdown.”

    You’ve nothing to be sorry about. At least you never made a mistake on your post. Me I must learn to proof read before I post.

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  6. Sue says:

    The BBC, its hatred of Israel and inventing a story.
    pounce | 27.02.08 – 6:44 pm | #

    Tonight’s 6pm radio 4 news bulletin intoned:

    “Two Palestinian teenagers are among a number of people who have died in a day of attacks between Israel and the Palestinian territories.

    The violence began when Israel launched an air attack killing five people, and in retaliation, a barrage of rockets were fired from Gaza killing a man attending a college….”

    The Palestinians were militants. Even Tim Franks’s report that came on straight after called them Islamist militants.

    Israel’s air attack was targeted at them because they were responsible for rocket attacks. This may have been the first incident of the day, but it could hardly be called the ‘beginning’ of violence.

    The rocket attacks (a barrage on Sderot, and later in Ashkelon) were not in retaliation. Beeb’s peculiar attempt to justify them. When Israel retaliates it regards all its defensive actions as aggression.

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  7. Martin says:

    Hillhunt: When in a hole, stop digging. Jock bird yes. What’s wrong with that (I can’t remember her name and I don’t really care, one Scottish bird at the BBC sounds like all the rest to me)

    You still don’t get it do you Mr Thicko?

    The jock bird NEVER put both sides of the argument to the person being interviewed who did NOT represent anyone other than the legal service. And for her to “claim” that many people whould be upset by this was a clear lie. On what basis did she say this? Her Islington mates?

    Again you are so pathetic and stupid you don’t get it. There was no evidence that Mr Singh had acted in anything else other than self defence.

    And yes people who do carry knives to use on innocent people are scum and if they end up with their own knife stuck in their chest, then tough luck.

    Of course the piece of scum who got stabbed was probably a Nu Labour supporter (one less to vote McBean back into power, so some more good news there) on the dole and on drugs.

    The real crime of course was that this piece of human waste had a record as long as your arm and broke the law by carrying a knife himself.

    Why should Mr Singh be put through all the stress of a trial for something he didn’t bring upon himself.

    If the Police want to prosecute criminals, then I suggest the drug takers at the BBC, the people who refuse to inform on terrorists who work at the BBC and those that make Panorama stories based on lies that put the lives of our soldeirs at risk. I’d prosecute every one of them.

    What would YOU do Hillhunt if you were attacked by someone with a knife? Lie down and be stabbed?

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  8. The People's Front of Judea says:

    Disinterested Bystander:

    Just joking. Your flowery prose does sound like some of the Uni beeboids. I guess I’m surprised to see it aimed at them rather than coming from them for a change.

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  9. The People's Front of Judea says:

    Martin:
    “What would YOU do Hillhunt if you were attacked by someone with a knife? Lie down and be stabbed?”

    We can only hope.

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  10. Disinterested bystander says:

    Disinterested Bystander:
    Just joking. Your flowery prose does sound like some of the Uni beeboids. I guess I’m surprised to see it aimed at them rather than coming from them for a change.
    The People’s Front of Judea | 27.02.08 – 7:46 pm |

    This is me with not so flowery prose:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2008/02/27/do2701.xml

    I’m the last comment posted at 7:11 pm

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  11. pounce says:

    The BBC, its promotion of the Islamic way of life and half the story.

    Most Muslims ‘desire democracy’
    The largest survey to date of Muslims worldwide suggests the vast majority want Western democracy and freedoms, but do not want them to be imposed. The poll by Gallup of more than 50,000 Muslims in 35 nations found most wanted the West to instead focus on changing its negative view of Muslims and Islam.
    ……
    The poll, which claims to represent the views of 90% the world’s 1.3 billion Muslims,
    …………
    Those polled also said the most important thing the West could do to improve relations with Muslim societies was to change its negative views towards Muslims and respect Islam.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7267100.stm

    So the BBC reports on a story about how a poll of 50,000 Muslims represents 1.3 billion people. No BBC it represents the views of 50,000 people or roughly 1500 a country. Now would a survey of 1500 people represent the Islamic population of the UK? Would it bollocks I mean Sunni /Shia/ Ahmadiyah/ Ismailis and the rest all counted upon by the MCB and the BBC as the Muslim world. However the fact remains not one of them can live in peace with another. Which kind of explains why each branch of Islam gets a raw deal in any Islamic country were they are the minority. Which kind of pisses on any bonfire that they all vote along the same lines.

    But what I found really funny is how in a BBC article about how Muslims desire democracy the underlining message is exactly the opposite this is superbly exemplified by the last line I cut and pasted from the article;
    “Those polled also said the most important thing the West could do to improve relations with Muslim societies was to change its negative views towards Muslims and respect Islam.”
    Yup, do as we say doesn’t count as democracy in any book I own. (I don’t own the Koran) But then British Muslims are on record of saying they object to Free speech and democracy. (Hopefully they weren’t used in that survey)

    The BBC, its promotion of the Islamic way of life and half the story.

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  12. pounce says:

    Martin wrote;
    “What would YOU do Hillhunt if you were attacked by someone with a knife? Lie down and be stabbed?”

    I’ve heard that Hill-hunt has a bad habit of getting attacked on Hampstead heath by men with pointed objects. The expression lie down and take it like a man seems to come to mind.

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  13. George R says:

    Further to the poll on Muslims, which Al Beeb reported without critical comment on Esposito:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7267100.stm

    ‘Jihadwatch’ has this critical comment:

    “Relax! There are only 91 million jihadists”

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/020117.php

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  14. John Reith spins in his grave says:

    Andrew Cramb:
    Watch out for the BBC’s coverage, or lack of it, of today’s lobby of Parliament for a referendum on the EU constitution.
    Andrew Cramb | 27.02.08 – 9:38 am | #

    …And here it is:-

    ‘Thousands’ protest at EU treaty

    Campaigners claim “two to three thousand” gathered outside Parliament earlier….

    A masterpiece of beebspeak.

    Note the double use of quotes plus “campaigners claim” inserted as extra EU criticism antidote measure.

    Now if it had been an anti-war march in Bradford……

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/bradford/features/peaceful_demo.shtml

    Not a quote mark in sight .

    Well, well, well – who’d a thunk it.

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  15. John Reith spins in his grave says:

    Sorry, missed today’s (well hidden) link :-

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7265502.stm

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  16. George R says:

    A misleading BBC report about Islam and sharia violence in Nigeria; under the euphemistic title –

    “Row over Nigeria nudity picture”,

    (BBC reporter: Mustafa Muhammad)

    What emerges is that this story is not about nudity. It is about the fanatical attempt to impose Sharia law by violence, intimidation and insults towards a woman politician in an Islamic part of northern Nigeria.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7267481.stm

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  17. Hillhunt says:

    Martin:

    You still don’t get it do you Mr Thicko?

    Perhaps not, no.

    The jock bird NEVER…

    Don’t let anyone tell you that this is diminishing or patronising. Women journalists just love being called birds. And Scots women in particular relish being called Jock.

    (Her name is Aasmah Mir)

    The jock bird NEVER put both sides of the argument to the person being interviewed who did NOT represent anyone other than the legal service.

    He was representing the people who decided not to prosecute. She was therefore entitled to put the opposite case to him – to act as Devil’s Advocate.

    And for her to “claim” that many people whould be upset by this was a clear lie. On what basis did she say this? Her Islington mates?

    These are the 3 questions she asked:

    1. Why have you decided not to charge (Mr Singh)?

    2. (responding to the prosecutor’s point that Singh had used reasonable force) In what way was it reasonable because there will be a lot of people will want to know where the fine line is because there is a fine line between what is reasonable and what is not?

    3. (The dead man’s) family (are) clearly understandably upset. They and perhaps others may feel that the best place to test this evidence is in a court of law?

    She did not say that many people would be upset by this. She said many people would want to know where the fine line on reasonable force is, i.e. how much force can someone use when they’re attacked?

    She said the robber’s family were upset – no surprise there – and that perhaps others would want to know why it couldn’t be heard in court, i.e. she wasn’t sure anyone else would care, but someone out there might.

    Again you are so pathetic and stupid you don’t get it.

    I am quite prepared to accept that I’m pathetic and stupid on the right occasion.

    But on this one, I wondered if you might like that privilege?
    .

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  18. Umbongo says:

    This from bishop hill via Matt Sinclair demonstrates the reality of BBC “impartiality” on ecolunacy

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  19. John Reith spins in his grave says:

    Moderately amusing on Newsnight tonight – watching Paxo doing the faux agressive interview with his old producer (now minister) Purnell.

    Your BBC – doing our bit towards the one party state

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  20. John Reith spins in his grave says:

    I am quite prepared to accept that I’m pathetic and stupid ….
    Hillhunt | 27.02.08 – 10:19 pm | #

    At last – something we can agree on Stickyfingers old man.

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  21. Hillhunt says:

    JR Spins:

    I am quite prepared to accept that I’m pathetic and stupid ….
    Hillhunt | 27.02.08 – 10:19 pm | #

    At last – something we can agree on Stickyfingers old man.

    Excellent.

    Almost seems churlish to point out that you have omitted my qualifier …on the right occasion

    But then I can’t imagine why B-BBC might want to twist anything. So I’ll smile gracefully and scroll on….
    .

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  22. John Reith spins in his grave says:

    It’s always the right occasion where you’re concerned Sticky.

    Here’s an easy one.

    Yes or no answer.

    Is this you?

    http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/dave_hill/2008/02/above_the_usual_standard.html

    I’d like to think so ‘cos you look just like I’d imagined you.

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  23. Hillhunt says:

    JR Spins:

    Here’s an easy one.

    Yes or no answer.

    Is this you?

    You’re not kidding that it’s easy. The answer is no.

    Someone else drew my attention to this last year and claimed it was me. I was shocked – he has a blog called Claptonian… and it’s not about guitars. How daft is that?

    Hillhunt: Not Dave
    .

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  24. Atlas shrugged says:

    Archroy

    It could have been me but I dont remember using the word coincidences.

    However its a perfectly reasonable word to use when discussing the actions motives and methods of the BBC.

    IMO

    We have been brainwashed though our education system and media mainly since the war to believe that things just happen that way. That there is no unseen hand no omnipresent power no god, no CONSPIRACY, or even a conspiracy of common interests.

    This is possibly the most successful aspect of this, our long term collective brainwashing. So much so that even the admission of being a conspiracy theorist starts people laughing and talking about lizards for some strange reason.

    Call yourself a socialist however and the BBC, The State or the Labour Party gives you up to or beyond an £100,000 plus per year, for life, job.

    Yes I know the likes of David Icke go a bit far sometimes but it does not mean they are wrong.

    Are you sure we are not being controlled by creatures or something from another place, because I wish I was sure?

    If so what on earth makes you so sure, not your school teachers parents or the BBC I hope?

    Because as far as I can see they might as well be bug eyed monsters as far as the horrendously evil inhuman way they have been running this planet for the last few hundreds of millions of years or so.

    Sorry I went off on one there.

    Yes, you are right to finally start seeing the light. You would be well advised not to believe anything is a coincidence virtually ever again, unless you have clear evidence of it being so.

    Judged by the experience of a combination of your own free mind, common sense, common humanity, ears and most importantly eyes. Otherwise you will spend your days being confused, ripped off, lied too, impoverished, depressed, repressed, oppressed and last but not least, unwittingly ignorant.

    Or put another way so generally BBCised to eternal damnation by your own ruling elites, you will end up wishing you had never been born, one day.

    So be smart and join the internet generation, if not a little late to help much now. The internet is basically the only place to find a libertarian these days. Even though I believe we make up the clear majority of humanity and certainly the British.

    We also might be a ‘bit all over the place, and most of us dont even know what a libertarian really is.’ But that is one of the points of being a libertarian.

    Its not a dogma like socialism, fascism, BBCism, leftism, rightism, in the middleism, conservatism or communism.

    It is a way of thinking, with your own free mind. Along with respecting absolutely others gods given right to not only have a free mind, but to use it for there own personal individualization prosperity independence and eventual enlightenment every bit as much as yourself.

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  25. simon says:

    So the people who fire rockets at Israeli civilians are ‘activists’?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3702088.stm

    “Development of Qassam technology (named after the early 20th-Century Islamist preacher Izzedine al-Qassam) has been spearheaded by Hamas since the outbreak of the current intifada in 2000 to use against Israeli civilians and retaliate for deadly incursions and assassinations of its activists.”

    I have a reply from the BBC complaints dept. from a couple of years ago, following a characterization in their “Who Are Hamas” article of Hamas militants as being “activists” stating this: “An activist is of course a much more general term for someone who is
    engaged in non-violent political struggle of some kind. You gave the
    example of ‘Greenpeace activists’. We might also refer to political
    party workers for the ruling party in Britain as ‘Labour Party
    activists’.”

    Also, the BBC stated to me in their letter: “We do not use the word activist to describe
    members of Hamas’ military wing. If we have, I would very much
    appreciate examples of this.”

    Uh…well, here’s one.

    John Reith? Anybody?

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  26. Bryan says:

    simon there is much to fisk in the article you linked and it’s riddled with inaccuacies, for example the “current intifada” did not break out in 2000, that was the second intifada which lasted through to 2004:

    Development of Qassam technology …. has been spearheaded by Hamas since the outbreak of the current intifada in 2000 to use against Israeli civilians and retaliate for deadly incursions and assassinations of its activists.

    But the above quote is the worst of it. I note how they turn facts around to make it seem that the Kassams are retaliation for Israeli attacks which in reality designed to stop the Kassams.

    And I suppose we can look forward to “activists” becoming common usage by the BBC to describe the lowest of terrorists.

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  27. Squander Two says:

    A little example of bias here, if anyone’s interested.

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  28. Ritter says:

    Anyone hear Naughtie on R4 Today this morning bleating on about the ‘public sector’ company Network Rail being fined for piss-poor service?

    I don’t recall Today being so defensive about Railtrack. But then with the BBC its public sector = good, private sector = bad.

    Record £14m fine for rail company
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7267658.stm

    “Critics say the fine is “pointless” as it will end up being paid by taxpayers”

    Does the BBC think that the public sector should be immune from regulators who take action to punish crap service?

    Hey, the BBC even got a (D)HYS set up for Network Rail:

    Is Network Rail’s £14m fine fair?
    http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?forumID=4378&edition=1&ttl=20080228113713

    “Network Rail has been fined a record £14 million from the regulator after engineering work over-ran during the Christmas break. Is the fine justified?

    Personally, I’d like to see more of this:

    BBC fined for Blue Peter phone-in
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6284014.stm

    “The BBC has been fined £50,000 after the results of a Blue Peter competition were faked last November.

    Can you get fined for news fakery? The BBC does that very well.

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  29. bob says:

    Warning! BBC social cohesion alert:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wiltshire/7268763.stm
    “Seven convicted in hammer attack”

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  30. Ritter says:

    The BBC will prefer this than having to share any of the licence fee with Ch4:

    BBC Worldwide could help fill Channel 4’s funding gap
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/feb/28/bbc.channel4

    “Channel 4 could be given a stake in the BBC’s commercial arm and launch a series of joint ventures with public bodies under radical plans being considered to plug a £100m funding gap. The Guardian has learned that the Department for Culture, Media and Sport (DCMS) is examining a proposal for Channel 4 and the BBC to work more closely together.

    Under the plan Channel 4 would receive a stake in the BBC’s commercial arm, which sells its programmes and channels globally and is expanding aggressively around the world.

    Channel 4, which endured a tumultuous 2007 with its remit and purpose under scrutiny and is preparing a new vision to secure its future, would receive a cut of BBC Worldwide’s profits.”

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  31. Ritter says:

    Re: “Seven convicted in hammer attack”
    bob | 28.02.08 – 12:13 pm | #

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wiltshire/7268763.stm

    Nice to see such ‘in-depth’ reporting from the BBC on these issues.

    Something the BBC misses out it seems:

    First hammer trial: guilty verdicts revealed
    http://www.thisisswindon.co.uk/mostpopular.var.2080522.mostviewed.first_hammer_trial_guilty_verdicts_revealed.php

    “A second trial started this week. Kamren Khan, 19, Javed Khan, 20, Mizanur Rahman, 18, Roubel Meah, 20, Aqduss Rau, 18, Bilal Yaqub, 18, Mabob Ali, 18, a 15-year-old and a 17-year-old who cannot be named for legal reasons, are appearing at Bristol Crown Court in connection with the attack.

    I am noticing a similarity in these cases Can you guess what it is?

    And other information deleted from BBC News reports:

    Gang convicted of claw hammer attack
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/feb/28/ukcrime2

    “A jury of five women and seven men heard how a gang of Asian males, from Swindon, travelled to Wroughton for the fight, which had been co-ordinated through a sequence of phone calls and text messages.

    “For those there, it made a sickening sight – the sort you would expect to see in a Quentin Tarantino film, [and] certainly not at a school in a village in Wiltshire,” James Patrick, prosecuting, said:

    Jurors were told that Henry, a 6ft 2in rugby player with bright red hair, was targeted because he “stood out”.

    Khan and Qazi blamed each other for the attacks during more than four weeks’ evidence. Khan also claimed that he was under pressure from his local Asian community not to name the teenager responsible.

    This is what licence fee payers pay for. Sanitised, fake reports pretending to be factual ‘news’. BBC News treat the licence fee payer with utter contempt.

    BBC so-called ‘news’. What a joke.

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  32. Robin says:

    The excellent EU Referendum Blog has posted a long item about a ‘predictable’ whitewash in the investigation of complaints about bias in the BBC’s reporting of the EU.

    http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/

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  33. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Robin | 28.02.08 – 12:30 pm |

    It’s funny how pretty much all the complaints on this blog about the BBC’s coverage of the EU machinations take the view that the BBC loves the EU, and either put a positive spin on their reporting of it or decline to mention troublesome issues. because they want to help the cause Yet the article you link to has it that the BBC fail to do their jobs properly on the EU for entirely different reasons, and it makes them look even worse.

    Lord Pearson says that they actually don’t think the EU is worth reporting on. The BBC’s own treatment of the complaint says it all:

    “However, the BBC ruling on the complaint completely side-stepped Pearson’s claim that the Today programme’s lack of coverage amounted to “bias by omission” because the programme’s editors tacitly assumed they were unimportant. The ruling made no effort to engage with the hard evidence presented, and instead dismissed the complaint on the sole opinion of European Editor Mark Mardell that the meeting was not important because there was no last-minute break down, name-calling or bitterness.”

    So the BBC actually fails in it’s responsibilities by not informing the public on the one issue in the world that can diminish the country’s sovereignty because there’s no sexy story – irrelevant to the larger picture, which is the real story – to tell on the day. They just blithely let the cold machinery of bureaucrats whittle away at everyone’s personal freedoms and domestic autonomy, without caring for their viewers and fellow citizens. They think it’s just fine, and not worth reporting on at all.

    That’s even more chilling than the idea that they’re actually working at spinning their coverage.

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  34. Ritter says:

    More liberal left wing handwringing that is the BBC of today:

    No way out
    How do prisoners deal with knowing they’ll die in jail?
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7268647.stm

    “Steve Wright and Levi Bellfield have joined the ranks of Britain’s “whole life tariff” prisoners, but what effect does being told you will never be released have?

    Only in the minds of the left-BBC does the perp of a crime become the ‘victim’ and the real victim (murdered) is forgotten.

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  35. Steve Edwards says:

    Do you really want to hurt me>?

    “Male escort” … the new BBC word for rent boy… and another peek into the joyful world of gaiety, virtue of another sometime BBC employee.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7268893.stm

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  36. Ritter says:

    This is interesting:

    Police chief seeks Conway answers
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7269338.stm

    “Metropolitan Police chief Sir Ian Blair has written to the Commons standards commissioner asking why the Derek Conway case was not referred to police.”

    I assume Ian Blair will be hot on the trail of Michael Martin next, over Martin’s frauudulent taxi expenses claim? I won’t hold my breath…..

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  37. will says:

    Don’t Get Done, Get DomThursday 28 February
    2:15pm – 3:00pm
    BBC2
    Dominic Littlewood fights for the rights of consumers as well as passing on the tricks of the trade to save cash on the high street. He hassles BT about an incorrect phone advert and heads to Somerset to help secure a deal on some kitchen essentials.

    The gnomish Dom expects to obtain a discount on every purchase, obviously private business has fat to be trimmed.

    I wonder if he managed to get a reduction on his TV licence.

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  38. Fabio P.Barbieri says:

    Not so much bias, as terminal cultural arrogance and incompetence

    So I am listening to a BBC Radio 3 programme about Beethoven – not, one would think, an obscure or unexplored subject. So the presenter is speaking about the circumstances in which the Third Symphony was named. I think I can transcribe the exact words: “…it was originally to be called ‘Bonaparte’, but the name soon vanished, apparently because the ardently republican Beethoven had been disappointed when Napoleon had proclaimed himself Emperor…”
    Apparently? Why, not only is this one of the best-certified facts in Beethoven’s life and in all the history of music; not only does it have that picturesque tinge and that eyewitness value that make so much of Beethoven’s life nearly as interesting as his music (he heard of the coronation, burst into a rage, and tore the cover from his manuscript); but the actual torn cover still exists to bear witness to the story!
    So why does the announcer say apparently? It is purely, in my view, a gesture of superiority, a posturing sage nod in the direction of the idea that history is all a lot of uncertified anecdotes anyway, and that we are all much too wise to take much stock in traditional stories. Even when they happen to be true.
    So: this is not in itself of any importance, but it shows the kind of intellectual arrogance coupled with real ignorance, that make the BBC what it is.

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  39. George R says:

    THe BBC gives much prominence today on its newscasts to the issue of deadly infections in UK hospitals, and the need for strict rules on cleanliness ( the BBC has 75 web-pages on the subject):

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7268578.stm

    -BUT, THE BBC STILL DOES NOT EVEN REPORT THIS, ABOUT MUSLIM ‘MEDICS’:

    “Muslim medics refuse to roll up their sleeves in hygience crackdown -because it’s against their religion”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=519072&in_page_id=1770

    This is where the BBC’s ‘multiculturalism’ leads to. It can not only damage our health, it can kill us.

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  40. Martin says:

    Ritter: See my comments regarding Mr Singh above. Only the dopey BBC have try to come up with some story to excuse some piece of human waste who went ou twith aknife to commit crime and ended up with it stuck in his own chest.

    The comments from the BBC’s Hillhunt troll says it all.

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  41. George R says:

    No doubt the BBC will be giving Channel 4 its moral support ( as always ) in this case about free speech?:-

    “Police sued over mosque programme”

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/7268816.stm

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  42. David Preiser (USA) says:

    More America bashing from the BBC, this time involving “The rise of the pick-up truck”.

    Apparently the Nissan Navara is awful because there are so many pick-up trucks in America. These “yank tanks”, as the foolish journo calls them, are not only made in Thailand by a Japanese company, but were invented in Australia.

    But that doesn’t matter to the BBC. Notice the obligatory awkward photo of Booooosh in front of the nasty yank tank. Yes, they mention that Obama has campaigned from the back of one, but the intelligent reader will understand that he has to pander to the rednecks in order to win an election in the nasty, racist, white trash US.

    Of course, it also must be disparaged as a toy for the mid-life crisis market.

    The only positive comment they can bother to tell you is that the tax on diesels is cheaper and that people can make extra cash giving rides.

    But it’s mostly very, very bad because the whiff of America is unseemly.

    Never mind that diesels are greener than standard engines, and that an average citizen might possibly benefit from cheaper taxes and the ability to pick up a little extra money to help pay for that license fee. It’s more important to warn British citizens against getting one of these, and the BBC even threatens the reader with the possibility of a higher congestion charge for pick-ups in London. Yes, that will discourage a landscaper in Etchingham from getting one.

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  43. Hillhunt says:

    Martin:

    See my comments regarding Mr Singh above. Only the dopey BBC have try to come up with some story to excuse some piece of human waste who went ou twith aknife to commit crime and ended up with it stuck in his own chest.

    The comments from the BBC’s Hillhunt troll says it all.

    Would those be the comments in which I pointed out that you got everything she had said completely wrong?
    .

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  44. moonbat nibbler says:

    The offshoot from Planet Relief, “e-day” isn’t going to plan:
    http://sinclairsmusings.blogspot.com/2008/02/live-blogging-e-day.html

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  45. pounce says:

    I know Ritter and Bob have spoken on this subject. But even I am amazed at how the BBC writes up an attack on a white child by 5 Muslim thugs with a hammer as an attack by a teenager. The BBC which has no problem using the ‘R’ word when ever a member of the gay death cult is a victim. Uses smoke and mirrors in which to keep this Racist attack on the QT.

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  46. George R says:

    Here’s a role which the UK Labour government, in cooperation with its ‘multicultural’ chums at the BBC can recruit Muslim staff for, perhaps headed by one Nasreen Suleaman (who may not have had any dealing with the police so far) for this:

    “Bobbies will be taught Sharia Law and the Koran in ‘secret’ plan to counter terrorism at local level”

    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23444766-details/Bobbies+will+be+taught+sharia+law+and+the+Koran+in+%27secret%27+plan+to+counter+terror+at+local+level/article.do

    Before the Muslims take over the brainwashing of the UK police, I suggest that local bobbies familiarise themselves with such texts critical of Islam, such as:

    Robert Spencer “The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades” he’s a director of:

    http://www.jihadwatch.org

    Andrew Bostom (ed) “The Legacy of Jihad”

    The works of Ibn Warraq, including this article:

    “How to Debate with a Muslim”

    http://www.challenging-islam.org/articles/warraq-debate-muslims.htm

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  47. pounce says:

    Quick,quick we must inform our Islamic masters by the BBC

    Prince Harry in Taleban fighting
    Prince Harry has been fighting the Taleban on the front line in Afghanistan, the Ministry of Defence has confirmed.

    Harry, 23, who is third in line to the throne, has spent the last 10 weeks serving in Helmand Province.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/7269743.stm

    Quick,quick we must inform our Islamic masters by the BBC

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  48. Hillhunt says:

    David P:

    The context of the Nissan piece is the dismal performance of the truck in recent European safety tests. It’s a legitimate question – why is such an un-British vehicle selling so well?

    Big question for me is how did they get the cultural references so wrong? Springsteen has never glorified pickups so far as I know. His glory days seem to have been spent in Chevvy saloons dreaming of a Cadillac. And O Brother Where Art Thou is the acme of many things, but not a homage to the truck.

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  49. Oscar says:

    The news bulletin on R4s PM at 5pm give another ‘heartrending’ headline for the Pals with no mention AT ALL of yesterday’s murder of an Israeli man and ongoing rocket attacks in Sderot. No – the BBC just tell us that some Pal children have been killed and more than 30 other Pals have died in ongoing Israeli operations. According to the BBC the Israeli’s do this sort of thing just for kicks – they never ever mention the attacks against them and the fact that the Pals put their kids in harms way. Any beeboid around here with a conscience who will own up to this vile perversion of the ‘news’?
    Oscar | 28.02.08 – 5:34 pm | #

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