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  1. Reverse Psychology says:

    Anybody out there know, as to why the Beeb have abandoned the showing of “All white in Barking” at its alloted time?.

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  2. Martin says:

    More propaganda from the BBC:

    They’ve had this silly “Childrens day” reporting, including of course the war in Iraq and cliamte change.

    I’m sorry but I’m NOT interested in what some smelly spotty kid thinks.

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  3. Disinterested Bystander says:

    I’m sorry but I’m NOT interested in what some smelly spotty kid thinks.
    Martin | 13.03.08 – 11:01 pm |

    That is pretty heartless.
    Have you no idea how sensitive sillybunt is?

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  4. Pete says:

    Why doesn’t Radio 3 play more classical music in the evenings? Does anyone really want to listen to Richard Rogers droning on to the soporific Dodd about boring buildings in London and demanding more taxes on travel in a predictable elitist BBC way? Just put a CD on and put drivel like Rogers out as a podcast for the dozen or so people who are interested in what he has to say.

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  5. Martin says:

    Why is Alex Salmond on Questiontime? We’ve just had a show from Scotland and I didn’t see a UKIP or BNP representative on there. Infact we got George Galloway.

    Perhaps the BBC just wanted to ensure that there was a majority of useless lefties as usual.

    Oh and nice to see a member of the studio audience promted to give out the usual evil Toree’s and their 20% interest interest rates.

    Always gotta get that one in haven’t they?

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  6. Disinterested Bystander says:

    Canadians extend Afghan mission

    http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7294800.stm

    ’Canada’s role in the Nato-led International Security Assistance Force (Isaf) is becoming increasingly controversial at home.’

    No it isn’t.
    BBC lying to fit their own agenda again

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  7. Martin says:

    Interesting that on Questiontime a question was asked as to why the education system in England is not as good as that in Scotland.

    Funny that no one had the balls to give the real reasons.

    1. The scots get far more per head spent on education than do the English (at the expense of the English tax payer)

    2. For the last 40 years the Scottish mafia at Westminster have interfered in the English education system for political reasons in a way that the English can’t in Scotland Tuition fees being a classic example)

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  8. Martin says:

    Rosie Boycott on BBC now talking utter crap. She’s another useless ex BBC leftie talking about climate change.

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  9. Matthew (UK) says:

    Islamic propaganda from BBC News:

    Rather than blame his islamic extremist kidnappers for the murder of one of the most senior christians in Iraq, whose fault is it? You’ve guessed it – the USA!

    ‘The BBC’s Hugh Sykes in Baghdad says centuries of peaceful coexistence between Muslims and the small Christian community in Iraq were shattered by the US-led invasion of 2003.’
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7295672.stm

    ‘Centuries of peaceful co-existance’! BBC reporters are so ignorant. Tell that to the Assyrians who suffered genocide under the Ottomans, or who were persecuted in the anti-Christian jihad of 1933.
    http://www.christiansofiraq.com/Lewis.html

    The BBC’s Islamic propaganda is beneath contempt.

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  10. Mullah says:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yorkshire/7295048.stm
    A young woman arrives in the UK from rural Pakistan with no English for an arranged marriage.
    What do you mean she shouldn’t have been her in the first place? We all know that the unfettered arrival of immigrants with little or no English and no idea how to live in the country, have been of immense benefit to the UK, don’t we?
    It’s hard to think of how she might have benefitted our country off the top of my head. But shame on me!
    The BBC says so, so it must be true.
    Sadly, within five months she is beaten to death by her husband while his relatives stand idly by, accusing her of being possessed by evil spirits.
    You might think that this is another example of rich cultural diversity which, on balance, we could do without.
    But of course, to think that would be judgmental and probably racist.
    Shame on me again, obviously.

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  11. Expat in New York says:

    Apologies if someone picked this up a few days ago, but when did the BBC turn to advertising forthcoming biographies?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7258556.stm

    When the biography is on their Labour hero John Prescott of course! They base the BBC story on an interview lifted from their handy copy of the New Statesman.
    A tenuous link with Aitken is used to highlight the “sword of truth” for a good BBC chuckle.
    No mention is made the scandal which left Prescott as a minister without ministry.
    He is described as having a “formidable left hook”, and the only real criticism is of course from the left, for his croquet escapade.

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  12. Martin says:

    Mullah: Ah yes. Another fine example of an “arranged marriage” so loved by the leftie losers at the BBC.

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  13. pounce says:

    The BBC, defending the Chinese in Sudan and half the story.

    Remember this story from the BBC from last month;
    China defends arms sales to Sudan
    China has defended its sale of weapons to Sudan, amid growing criticism of its alleged failure to help resolve the humanitarian crisis in Darfur. China’s special envoy on Darfur told the BBC that Beijing accounted for just 8% of Sudan’s total arms imports. Liu Guijin said the US, Russia and UK were the biggest arms exporters to developing countries including Sudan.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7258059.stm

    Yes that cop-out of an apology from the BBC in which to excuse China and implicate the US and UK in fuelling the problems in Darfur is what the BBC does really well nowadays.

    Now I exposed the crap the BBC revisionists posted about arms sales here;
    http://www.haloscan.com/comments/patrickcrozier/8468469111844664321/#386319

    And it seems that a certain American Human rights group have done their homework as well. But do the BBC air that news? No but the pro Islamist Al jazeera does.
    Chinese ‘arming Darfur conflict’
    Chinese sales of assault rifles and other weapons to Sudan have grown rapidly during the conflict in the western Darfur region despite a UN arms embargo, according to a US-based rights group.
    Human Rights First said on Thursday that a study of Sudanese and UN trade data showed that China was virtually the only supplier of small arms to Sudan.Khartoum pays for the weapons it buys from Beijing with its growing oil revenues, the rights group said.”The people of Sudan’s Darfur region will endure more death, disease and dislocation, and this will be due in no small part to China’s callousness,” the report said….
    The report came as Britain’s Channel 4 television’s Unreported World programme interviewed Mohammed Hamdan, a commander of the Arab Janjiwid militia accused of carrying out attacks on Darfur’s black African population. Hamdan said that his men had received orders and weapons from the Khartoum government, including heavy artillery which appeared to have Chinese markings. The Human Rights First report said that Chinese-made AK-47 assault rifles, grenade launchers and ammunition for rifles and heavy machine guns have all flowed into Darfur. China sold Sudan $55 million worth of small arms from 2003-2006 and has provided 90 per cent of Sudan’s small arms since 2004 when a UN arms embargo took effect, according to the report.
    http://english.aljazeera.net/News/Templates/Postings/DetailedPage.aspx?FRAMELESS=false&NRNODEGUID=%7b7D6E98C8-B082-47E7-A52A-4C3A66857D8A%7d&NRORIGINALURL=%2fNR%2fexeres%2f7D6E98C8-B082-47E7-A52A-4C3A66857D8A%2ehtm&NRCACHEHINT=NoModifyGuest

    What says the BBC get Newsnight to expose that Ch4 program as a sham. They could always use the excuse that the figures used were made up.. It worked the last time, why not again.

    The BBC, defending the Chinese in Sudan and half the story.

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  14. Reverse Psychology says:

    Re Expat in New York;

    Where have you been?.

    Our former Deputy PM John Prescott according to this article is off to Armenia to defuse political crisis.

    Definately one for the you could not make it up section.

    Yes former cruise ship waiter John who’s last recorded expenses was the princely sum of £124,696, is being sent to help keep the peace. But as we all know John has been featured in the news for his peace work before:

    The same moral crusader who kept an affair going with an aide for years behind his wifes back, and when she broke the story it was her who was fired for breaking civil service rules.

    That said John has a small penis, some 2″ by all accounts in The Sun: That story from The Sun again, and its 5.08 centimeters(for europeans out there)

    So Armenia has problems and who blags the job of “helping” them? Fat amoral sewer rat Prescott, a repulsive woman hassler, a dishonest bloke-lets be fair if he lies to his good lady wife for years- he has some practice at being shifty.

    Armenia has my thoughts, good luck to them, they will need it!

    The story of St Prescott waddling to the rescue.

    John Prescott is heading European human rights delegation to Armenia in an attempt to defuse the country’s growing political crisis.

    The Hull East MP’s two-day trip starts tomorrow at the request of the president of the Council of Europe’s Parliamentary Assembly.

    In a statement, the Council of Europe said Mr Prescott would “assess the post-electoral situation” in Armenia and “explore possibilities for defusing the current political crisis and promoting dialogue”.

    Mr Prescott was the head of an official observer team monitoring the Armenian presidential elections in February.

    Last weekend a state of emergency was declared after a wave of violence swept the country.

    John Prescott to the rescue.

    Courtesy of the Lone Voice blog.

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  15. Martin says:

    I see the BBC are now “suggesting” that the mess the Democrats are in over Florida and Michigan is the fault of those evil Republicans!!!!

    Yes, you heard it on the BBC. Well BBC America with sneer boy and some BBC pin head from West Palm Beach.

    Why or how you ask? Well apparently it was a load of Republicans who decided to bring the primary forward in Florida (er but they never explained how they influenced Michigan)

    And so why then did the Republicans punish their party in Florida by only giving them half the nominated delegates? The Democrats could have done the same thing rather than not count any delegates. Oh and how come Clinton and Obama didn’t blame the Republicans?

    Of course there is a real story here. The BBC reported that many Democrats in Florida (a big swing state) might now not bother to vote in Novemeber or even vote for McCain (boo hiss).

    This has alarmed the BBC and they will now be in full smear mode to blame the Republicans for just about everything going.

    The BBC have also pre alleged that the voting in Florida might be dodgy again (although expect to see that story fade away if a Democraft wins Florida)

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  16. pounce says:

    Out to David Vance.

    Having a look at the BBC’s on this day.
    1984: Sinn Fein leader shot in street attack

    Correct me if i am wrong here wasn’t Gerry saved by a British army patrol who administered First Aid to the injured man.

    And didn’t one of the RMP soldiers in that patrol lose his legs in a car bomb attack in Colchester a number of years later. Which resulted in Gerry sending an apology.

    Reason being is I take umbrage at the BBC quoting this in the “In context” column.
    “From his hospital bed, Gerry Adams, accused the British army of having prior knowledge of the attack and allowing it to go ahead.”

    Now if I am correct in all of this why would the British army save the life of a Terrorist who they wanted dead.

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  17. Martin says:

    Jesus Christ!!!!!! Regarding my comments about Florida. Just turned on Radio 5 and they are making the same allegations there as well!!!!!

    Luckily some American bloke has just pointed out that DEMOCRATS WERE IN CHARGE IN MICHIGAN.

    But expect to see the BBC big this story up all over the place.

    Nothing like a good lie from the BBC is there?

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  18. pounce says:

    Ref my last

    “a few days later Staff Sergeant Andrew Mudd lost both his legs, and his wife was injured when their car was blown up in Colchester. Mudd, who had been mentioned in despatches back in 1984 for helping capture the gunmen who had tried to kill Adams (Murray, p. 433), was now considered no better than the rest of them.
    http://cryptome.org/fru-hayward.htm

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  19. Anonymous says:

    Iran elections – those conservatives are expected to win!

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7295732.stm

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  20. simon says:

    The BBC simply cannot bring itself to write something along the lines of the following, from the MSNBC.com website front page: “Thousands of Christians are fleeing northern Iraq amid persecution and increasingly brazen attacks by militants who are killing in the name of Islam.”
    The BBC article on the death of the Iraqi archbishop simply dances, and dances some more, and dances even more around the issue. It’s just embarrassing. You cannot go to the BBC website and expect to get all the information. You have to augment it from other news organizations. How this makes it an effective and comprehensive news organization is simply beyond me. The defenders of the site who respond on this blog are simply out to lunch, period.

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  21. Robin says:

    How does BBC Breakfast Time cover the opening of T5 at Heathrow? By giving a platform to a strident, fanatical Friends of the Earth ‘campaigner’ who spends almost the entire feature ranting about carbon footprints, without a single new fact or relevant piece of information about the new terminal. Over on GMTV, a much more sensible approach – a tough-ish grilling by John Stapleton of a BAA spokesman about whether there will actually be enough staff to meet the promises about redcued transit times.

    The BBC: pushing climate change fantasy at every opportunity.

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  22. Cassandra says:

    THE TOADY SHOW IS NULABOUR IS THE BBC!

    Who does the NuLab press office(toady) blame for the utter failure of the education system and the huge numbers of children failing their tests?
    Blame the government for failed policies?
    Er no! Blame the children? Er yes! Make up a fake study that pins the blame on the children?
    NuLabour and its TOADY press office try to wriggle out of taking any blame for anything?
    How low will NuLab/TOADY stoop? these people could walk under the belly of a snake!
    TOADY so far has pushed the “fight on climate change” eleven times in the first two hours!
    Yet the Manhatten declaration got nothing! Hundreds of scientists at a major climate conference from all over the world and yet the TOADY didnt think it worth reporting? Bliar gets lots of mentions! The EU gets lots of mentions!
    “Fighting gobal warming blah blah, EU fighting climate change blah blah, Bliar blah blah, heading for disaster unless blah blah, CO2 targets blah blah, sustainable future blah blah, low carbon economy bla blah, tough choices need to made blah blah, third world immigration because of climate change blah blah!
    AND ALL THE WHILE THE WESTERN WORLD HEADS FOR A 1930s STYE ECONOMIC DISASTER THAT WILL DESTROY THE LIVES OF MILLIONS OF ORDINARY PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD!
    These maniacs are fitting smoke detectors while the house burns down around their heads!
    Talk about rearanging the deckchairs on the Titanic, these muppets are busy writng the menu for the evening meal!

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  23. George R says:

    What time is it? Time for BBC licence-fee to go:

    “BBC website to feature Rolex adverts”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/03/13/nbbc113.xml

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  24. NotaSheep says:

    Did you catch Front Row last night on Radio 4. A nice long piece about how John McCain has been portrayed in American fiction. This left plenty of room for attacks on fundamentalist Christians and how John McCain was alienating Republicans and so could not win the Presidential election.

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  25. ryan says:

    I saw this item on the BBC website:-

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7293992.stm

    It isn’t left biased as such. In fact it suggests that French students need to get off their ass and get a proper job. But it contains the line:-

    “This generation is having to fend for itself like never before.”

    Like NEVER before? Not even a hundred years ago perhaps?

    It is this extremely narrow perspective that leads to bias in my opinion.

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  26. George R says:

    Turn to both the BBC’s ‘Americas’ and ‘Middle East’ web news pages, and the LEAD story in both is about a Yemeni who ALLEGES he was tortured by the CIA.

    This is the Islamic news from the BBC, and no doubt from its neighbours, the BBC Arabic TV service.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middl
    e_east/default.stm

    Less prominently, we find this about Yemen, in the BBC’s ‘Country Profile’:

    “Yemen has attracted the curiosity of a growing number of tourists, although foreigners have been kidnapped by groups seeking to force concessions from the authorities.

    The scene of attacks on a US warship and a French tanker, Yemen has gained a reputation as a haven for Islamic miltants. The authorities have arrested suspected al-Qaeda members and the US has supplied equipment and training for Yemen’s security forces.

    Thousands of illegal immigrants from Africa, including many Somalis, use Yemen as a staging post for the oil-rich Arab Gulf or Europe.”

    Here is a recent ‘Jihadwatch’ comment on a ‘New York Times’ article about Yemen, which gives a more revealing context:

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/019777.php

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  27. Martin says:

    Interesting that on 5 lite this morning, Victoria Derbyshire did a really good job to defend the snouts in the trough MP’s expenses again.

    I’m also fascinated that when northerners call in, in particular scousers and geordies they are alway SO pro MP’s.

    This is the problem we have with politics in this Country. Until people wake up and realise that the politicians are all got their snouts in the trough we will continue to be ripped off.

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  28. John Reith spins in his grave says:

    Martin:
    Interesting that on 5 lite this morning, Victoria Derbyshire did a really good job to defend the snouts in the trough MP’s expenses again.

    I’m also fascinated that when northerners call in, in particular scousers and geordies they are alway SO pro MP’s.

    Scousers & geordies have a lot in common with MP’s – they’re all benefit junkies who think the rest of us should stump up for their flat screen tellies etc etc etc ….

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/03/14/nmps214.xml

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  29. Anonymous says:

    The beeb is biased in favour of making discoveries.

    Now it seems to be always doing this on the science pages.

    Trumpeting discoveries that are actually only probable, likely, perhaps or maybe.

    Last time I checked a discovery ought to be a fact not a theory or a possibility.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7294767.stm

    “probably been detected”
    “The radar data suggest that some of these features”
    “Scientists have long suspected”
    “suggesting they were”
    “If confirmed, the discovery could”

    Its the same attitude that has seen the decline of the once excellent Horizon.

    Not good enough.

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  30. John Reith spins in his grave says:

    To celebrate gold topping $1000 per ounce, the beeb’s got a piece on the history of the gold price:-

    30 years of gold highs and lows

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7284184.stm

    Ah – are we going to finally find out which self proclaimed financial genius sold off our gold reserves at $250?

    Well…not exactly.

    Apparently “banks” sold off gold reserves – no mention of any particular politician or bank in the UK case.

    JULY 1996-1999, BANKS START SELLING GOLD
    Gold prices fell on news that the International Monetary Fund had been considering selling 5 million ounces to help pay for debt relief in the developing world.

    Central banks started to follow the IMF’s lead.

    The Swiss Central bank announced a plan to sell 1,400 tonnes of gold, Australia also sold a large part of its reserves.

    The British government sold more than half of its gold – almost 400 tonnes – of gold between 1999 and 2002 raising $3.5bn.

    It was poor timing for all the banks as in July 1999 gold hit a 20-year low of $252.80 an ounce.

    Your BBC – always first with the tractor production statistics

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  31. George R says:

    An appalling joint BBC-‘Daily Politics’/Labour Government pro-Islamic project TODAY:

    After 21/7, and BBC ‘paintballing’ scandal, it is all expensively institutionalised now for Muslims, with expensive publicly-funded projects in places like the Lake District, Cumbria.There, mainly Muslims youths, who, of course, feel ‘alienated’ after the Islamic Jihad attacks on British people, are given WEAPONS TRAINING.

    There was no discussion of a policy of ending immigration of Muslims (on the grounds of danger to life and limb, the lack of identity with British values, and the cost of putting up with such alienated Islamic whingers) – these Muslim young people, complete with their chant of ‘Britain out of Iraq’ and their ‘Palestine’ neckerchiefs, are extolled by the misnamed ‘Minister for Cohesion’, and appeased, (with no Andrew Neil present) by ‘Daily Politics’.

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  32. Expat in New York says:

    Hi Reverse Psychology,

    Re: Prescott

    Armenia?

    Best place for him I expect.

    If I was president of the Council of Europe, faced with the prospect of Prescott at my meetings, that’s probably where I’d send him too.

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  33. Sue says:

    Several times I have posted about Sarah Montague’s answer to the Israel Palestine conflict. She has decided that all would be well if only Israel would talk to Hamas. If her interviewee should resist her badgering attempts to get them to respond positively, she accuses them of preferring to go ‘flat out into Gaza’
    She is not the only Beeboid who does this. On news 24 the mayor of Sderot was beaten with the same stick yesterday, and made to look as though Israel was obstructing the magic solution.
    Through Melanie P in the Spectator I followed her link to this article.

    http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?c=JPArticle&cid=1205162820639&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull

    “The attack at the yeshiva was a barbaric murder of eight children who were engaged in religious study,’ read an op-ed in the daily Al-Watan. ‘This odious and inhuman terror attack exemplifies the extremist and inhuman path of the terror organizations Hamas and Hizbullah.’ The writer goes on to assert that ‘the terror attack must prompt the free world to comprehend the magnitude of terrorism and its threats and to realize that a clear and unequivocal stance must be assumed against it. There can be no negotiations with terrorism that indiscriminately aims itself at students, women and babies without any consideration for the means and the targets.’ Contrasting the terror attack with the IDF’s operations in the Gaza Strip, the writer explains that ‘there is no link between a murderous terrorist act and the inadvertent killing of civilians in response to the firing of rockets by Hamas.’”

    Tell that to Sarah Montague

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  34. Martin says:

    Nice to see the BBC news department have Sky Newson for all their information.

    Breaking story about Shannon Matthews on Sky News. Over on BBC News 24, er nothing.

    Then 5 minutes later!!!! the BBC are breaking the story.

    Wha’ts amusing is that Kay Burley on Sky is talking to a reporter, but the BBC pillocks are simply falpping around in the studio and as the Sky reporter said something the BBC were repeating it.

    3.5 billion a year and these BBC arseholes can’t cover a breaking story themselves. What a joke.

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  35. David Preiser (USA) says:

    ryan | 14.03.08 – 10:55 am |

    It is this extremely narrow perspective that leads to bias in my opinion.

    Agreed. You are supposed to believe that France has always had cradle-to-grave nanny care and the government provides jobs for each and every French citizen when they reach majority age.

    Kind of like the BBC’s fantasy about a collectivist utopia in the UK. This is the same line of thinking that leads to one of the main problems with “Here Come The Poles”.

    But there are two big problems.

    I had been wondering how to square that particular show with the accusations of anti-WWC attitudes we pin on the BBC, as Poles are white, and obviously the beloved immigrants are working class if they take the low-paying menial jobs. And they’re not Mohammedans, so no grounds there, either. However, portraying indigenous British yoof as feckless and vocally objecting to taking a low-paying job is very, very similar to Leftoid propaganda in the US.

    But this does seem like a two-pronged attack. First, they think everybody is so stupid that they will buy into the propaganda that “immigration is good” by showing honest, hard working white Christian people.
    So this is really more evidence that the BBC and Leftoid producers of the show think that you’re all racists. They think that you are stupid enough to forget about the Islamo-fascist problem of a whole bunch of other immigrants, because you’re supposed to stop thinking after the word “immigrant”. Anyone think it’s a coincidence they ran that show about cool white immigrants in “The Polish Welsh” this week? If they promote positive connotations with that word, the assumption is that you will eventually overcome the only real objection you have to immigration: racism (Never mind that Islam is not a race, you’re not supposed to think about it that much)
    .
    The second line of attack is more subtle, and goes along with the point about French youth not getting plum jobs handed to them at birth. Anybody who is not under the BBC’s Leftoid spell is probably asking why these dopes have no respect for honest work, no respect for taking responsibility for themselves, no understanding of taking pride in anything other than base behavior. Of course, everyone here knows the answer to that, so I won’t go into it. I will say instead that this goes hand in hand with the neo-Marxists trying to raise the minimum wage so high that it screws up the whole system, coupled with the nanny-state benefits system, and their beloved class warfare.

    In their clouded minds, people are paid low wages for picking vegetables because rich people are oppressing them. If somebody in The City is making £100,000 a year, that somehow takes money out of the pockets of the working class. It’s complete nonsense, but that is standard socialist and neo-Marxist fare. So this particular episode isn’t so much about showing how awful the British WWC are, as it is about the Leftoid plan to reshape society as a whole.

    Notice the BBC never says in any of their reports or programmes that immigration is going to fix the problem with the shiftless yobs they show you. They don’t wonder why these white Christian immigrants have a better work ethic than the indigenous population because the answer would make them uncomfortable.

    The Left, aided and abetted by the BBC, has pretty much removed a sense of personal responsibility and respect for honest work from the latest generation reaching job age. The ridiculously inflated self esteem of the average young person prevents them from doing anything they consider to be “beneath them”. An educational system ruined by Leftoid policies, and a national broadcasting system that incessantly harps on how awful it is that companies don’t pay their janitors and burger flippers as much as executives and other people with major responsibilities, has removed any respect for work ethic, or the value of honest work, full stop.

    The children of these Polish immigrants will probably grow up to be just as useless as the Britons portrayed in this show, if they watch the BBC.

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  36. George R says:

    BBC’s Mark Mardell sees the problem:

    “Why Mr. Brown needs mechanics to fix the EU” http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2008/03/why_mr_brown_needs_mechanics_t_2.html

    And the ‘EU Referendum’ site goes further in spelling out consequences of Labour Government’s sell-out of national sovereignty to EU:

    “Get Lost Gordie”

    http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2008/03/get-lost-gordie.html

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  37. Anonymous says:

    Shannon Matthews story:
    £3.5bn/yr BBC struggling with reporters in studio, and phone calls to members of public ‘in the area’.

    Sky [free], has reporters live, knocking on doors, interviewing family at the kid’s home.

    BBC made to look like amateurs yet again.

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  38. pounce says:

    The BBC. The Chinese occupation of Tibet and half the story.

    Deaths reported in Tibet protests
    Clashes between protesters and security forces in Tibet’s main city of Lhasa have left at least two people dead, according to reports. An emergency official told AFP news agency that many people had been hurt and an unspecified number had died.
    The US-based Radio Free Asia quoted witnesses who said they had seen at least two bodies on Lhasa’s streets. Rallies have continued all week in what are said to be the largest protests against Beijing’s rule in 20 years.
    …..
    China says Tibet has always been part of its territory – though Tibet enjoyed long periods of autonomy before the 20th Century and many Tibetans remain loyal to the Dalai Lama, who fled in 1959.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7296837.stm

    The BBC is more than happy to inform you that Iraq was invaded by the Americans and that they are an occupying nation
    The BBC is more than happy to inform you that Afghanistan was invaded by the Americans and that they are an occupying nation.
    The BBC is more than happy to inform you that Palestine was invaded by the Jews and that they are an occupying nation.
    The BBC is more than happy to inform you that Ireland was invaded by the Brits and that they were an occupying nation.
    The BBC is more than happy to inform you that Middle East was invaded by the Brits and that they were an occupying nation.
    The BBC is more than happy to inform you that Africa was invaded by the Brits and that they were an occupying nation.

    But when the BBC reports on Tibet which was invaded and annexed by China in 1950 the BBC informs you that the locals are simply protesting against Chinese rule, and leave out But they do take the time to inform you that “Radio Free Asia, is funded by the US government.” Yes the high and mighty BBC looks down on any other news source which is part funded by a national government. For the BBC clones here is Radio Free Asia’s mission statement taken from their website;
    Code of Ethics
    Strict adherence to the highest standards of journalism is at the very core of RFA’s mission.
    Our broadcast and online stories and programs must be accurate, fair, and balanced.

    A variety of ideas and opinions
    We must maintain a calm, dispassionate tone and avoid polemics, propaganda, or slurs directed against any persons, groups, or governments. We will not preach or talk down to our listeners.
    We must not incite listeners to violence or encourage acts of rebellion or emigration. We provide a forum for a variety of ideas and opinions. Both online editors and broadcasters must ensure that no story that airs or that is published on the Web site is based on rumor or unsubstantiated information. Whenever possible, we must seek more than one source for a story.

    http://www.rfa.org/english/about/code_of_ethics/
    I suppose that code of ethics isn’t something the British Government funded BBC Arabic would abide by?

    The BBC. The Chinese occupation of Tibet and half the story.

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  39. pounce (correction) says:

    The BBC. The Chinese occupation of Tibet and half the story.

    Deaths reported in Tibet protests
    Clashes between protesters and security forces in Tibet’s main city of Lhasa have left at least two people dead, according to reports. An emergency official told AFP news agency that many people had been hurt and an unspecified number had died.
    The US-based Radio Free Asia quoted witnesses who said they had seen at least two bodies on Lhasa’s streets. Rallies have continued all week in what are said to be the largest protests against Beijing’s rule in 20 years.
    …..
    China says Tibet has always been part of its territory – though Tibet enjoyed long periods of autonomy before the 20th Century and many Tibetans remain loyal to the Dalai Lama, who fled in 1959.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7296837.stm

    The BBC is more than happy to inform you that Iraq was invaded by the Americans and that they are an occupying nation
    The BBC is more than happy to inform you that Afghanistan was invaded by the Americans and that they are an occupying nation.
    The BBC is more than happy to inform you that Palestine was invaded by the Jews and that they are an occupying nation.
    The BBC is more than happy to inform you that Ireland was invaded by the Brits and that they were an occupying nation.
    The BBC is more than happy to inform you that Middle East was invaded by the Brits and that they were an occupying nation.
    The BBC is more than happy to inform you that Africa was invaded by the Brits and that they were an occupying nation.

    But when the BBC reports on Tibet which was invaded and annexed by China in 1950 the BBC informs you that the locals are simply protesting against Chinese rule, and leave out the Chinese invaded in 1950 and are in fact an occupying army. But they do take the time to inform you that “Radio Free Asia, is funded by the US government.” Yes the high and mighty BBC looks down on any other news source which is part funded by a national government. For the BBC clones here is Radio Free Asia’s mission statement taken from their website;
    Code of Ethics
    Strict adherence to the highest standards of journalism is at the very core of RFA’s mission.
    Our broadcast and online stories and programs must be accurate, fair, and balanced.

    A variety of ideas and opinions
    We must maintain a calm, dispassionate tone and avoid polemics, propaganda, or slurs directed against any persons, groups, or governments. We will not preach or talk down to our listeners.
    We must not incite listeners to violence or encourage acts of rebellion or emigration. We provide a forum for a variety of ideas and opinions. Both online editors and broadcasters must ensure that no story that airs or that is published on the Web site is based on rumor or unsubstantiated information. Whenever possible, we must seek more than one source for a story.

    http://www.rfa.org/english/about/code_of_ethics/
    I suppose that code of ethics isn’t something the British Government funded BBC Arabic would abide by?

    The BBC. The Chinese occupation of Tibet and half the story.

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  40. Martin says:

    Anonymous: Sky have covered this story more than the BBC anyway. The family of this girl are white working class, the very people despised by the BBC.

    Unlike the McCanns who got a nice cosy interview with the awful Jane Hill (she who said we’d all leave our tiny children alone in a hotel room – no Jane only a dopey cow like YOU would)

    That’s why Sky had journalists on the scene.

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  41. Bryan says:

    Missing UK girl ‘found alive.’

    Does the BBC doubt that she was found, or doubt that she is alive? Or does it have some reason to distance itself from the two words in combination?

    BBC headline writers seem to lack the basic knowledge that when a report is based on a verifiable fact, there is no need to put it in quotes and that quotes in this case only make the reader doubt the truth of the report.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/

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  42. Hillhunt says:

    Bryan:

    BBC headline writers seem to lack the basic knowledge that when a report is based on a verifiable fact, there is no need to put it in quotes and that quotes in this case only make the reader doubt the truth of the report.

    It was a breaking story and the quotes suggest that they had one source claiming it but had not been able to verify it to their satisfaction.

    The quotes have since disappeared now that W Yorks police have confirmed she is safe.

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  43. George R says:

    The contrast in the BBC’s reporting (and non-reporting) of the British ‘White working class’, as epitomised by the BBC’s ‘White’ season, compared with its helpful approach to e.g. mainly Muslim youths on WEAPONS TRAINING in the Lake District, as approved by Labour’s MINISTER FOR COHESION (you couldn’t make it up!) is apparent from this video of today’s edition of ‘The Daily Politics’ on BBC 2 (the section starts 5 minutes in):-

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid_5170000/newsid_5176600/5176654.stm?bw=bb&mp=wm&news=1&bbcws=1

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  44. Bryan says:

    I didn’t notice any disappearing quotes. They’re still there where I found them – under ‘Other top stories’:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/

    We have discussed this from time to time on this site. BBC sub-editors seem to have a real problem with quotes in headlines – and elsewhere. They don’t seem to understand the basic principle.

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  45. Martin says:

    Hillhunt: Which BBC department do you actually work for? Are you based in their news department?

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  46. DB says:

    Mark Kermode’s film of the week on Radio Five Live? Brian de Palma’s vile slander of America’s armed forces Redacted.

    I’ve just found out that this US box office turkey received a £5,000 grant from the National Lottery/UK Film Council fund. So basically the British are funding grotesque propaganda which undermines our war allies. Oh, hang on – we do that anyway through the licence fee.

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  47. John Reith spins in his grave says:

    The quotes have since disappeared now that W Yorks police have confirmed she is safe.
    Hillhunt | 14.03.08 – 7:17 pm | #

    Just trundling along half an hour behind the news professionals then – as usual.

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  48. Bryan says:

    Just trundling along half an hour behind the news professionals then – as usual.
    John Reith spins in his grave | Homepage | 14.03.08 – 7:35 pm

    They’ll say it’s because of their excellence, discipline and cautious desire to get the facts right. But when Katrina hit, they raced in to accuse Bush of racism for not helping black New Orleans without knowing or bothering to find out that it was up to the state government to request aid.

    And as we’ve just seen, if there’s a sob story to be told regarding the Palestinians, it doesn’t really matter which terrorist’s house is being demolished. Any old house will do.

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  49. WoAD says:

    BBC promotes gnosticism:

    “The late physicist Carl Sagan, in his novel Contact, imagined a time when Earth scientists were sufficiently able to unravel enough of pi to find encoded messages from our creators-messages that would allow our primitive race to leap into a greater universal awareness. After all, if you were going to hide a long numeric message in the very fabric of our reality, pi would be a natural place to do it.”

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  50. Dagobert says:

    Radio 4 news bulletin at 9pm this evening stated that Lhasa was in Nepal!!! Some ignorant person wrote that and an equally ignorant newsreader then read it out!! How much do they get paid for being so ignorant?

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