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It’s hard to believe that anyone as important as Kirsty Wark needs anything as footling as planning permission.
If you look at the current first page of comments on this HYS you will see that they are all in support of Brand, Ross and the BBC, they have all remarkably been recommended the same 44 times !!.
http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?sortBy=1&forumID=5560&start=0&tstart=0&edition=2&ttl=20081102133733#paginator
£400,000 holiday home? I wonder who paid for that then?
You don’t see many beeboids living in Council Houses do you?
Just got my email through from one of my latest complaints (I’ve lost track now) over the Toss and Bland mess. Nice to see the BBC grovelling an apology for once 🙂
Been a great week for those of us that detest the BBC.
Lurker in a Burqua | 02.11.08 – 1:13 pm | #
Floodlights.
On the tennis court.
Of the £400,000 Majorcan holiday home.
Just wanted to see how that all stacked up.
Nope. Not too well.
Worth saving for the next Newsnight lecture I get subjected to on fat cats, global warming, etc, with a hint of me and mine needing to cut back and ‘take one for the team’.
Ta for that.
Welcome to the BBCs very own hitler youth:-
http://www.bbc.co.uk/cbeebies/ecobeebies/
How the BBC shamelessly attempt to indoctrinate children into following it’s student politics agenda.
Notice the correct amount of enriching multi-cultural faces sprinkled about the show. Except for Bill Oddie of course. But he nicely represents the crusty old fart demographic.
The discussion about Obama and his lack of background reminded me of `The Manchurian Candidate’ (Original version)
Floodlights.
On the tennis court.
Of the £400,000 Majorcan holiday home.
not only does she despoil the neighbourhood, she burns huge floodlights & how do you suppose she gets to Majorca?
Easyjet or on a Donkey? (also not eco friendly as I suspect that they would both emit a lot of methane).
Kirsty Wark – Liberal on the outside only.
To any who were/are despairing of finding good news analysis or great comedy, I can commend a rare diamond in the rough that I believe managed/s both: Silly Money on Ch4, hosted/performed/co-written by Bremner, Bird and Fortune.
Nice to see intelligence and talent can still exist, and I’d have been happy to pay for it.
As opposed to what I am forced to fund to see such as this.
I actually work for the BBC and I happen to think that the £140 is great value for money. You get some fantastic shows on different cultures.
Alot of you that are sat in your grandma’s basement right now could stand to learn alot from us at the BBC. Why are you getting so angry over TV channels? Why not get angry over poverty or your poor nana’s heart condition.
I really think you should all watch the BBC for a day and you will learn to love it like I do.
I love it like most of you love your sisters. Yes it’s inappropriate, yes it’s probably illegal, but when you feel that urge you just cant help yourself. You need to look at it, and touch it, and stroke it until you make that nice mess in your pants.
I love it like most of you love your sisters. Yes it’s inappropriate, yes it’s probably illegal, but when you feel that urge you just cant help yourself. You need to look at it, and touch it, and stroke it until you make that nice mess in your pants.
Yep! You work for the BBC alright.
The BBC IS excellent value for money.
Because it’s totally FREE to those not mug enough to pay it.
Do you stroke your sister?…. i know i do….
I AM my sister. Does that count?
I SURE DO!
I routinely engage in sexual relations with my sister. It’s the only female I’ve ever had contact with that’s not called the police.
Except for that one time.
I suppose the BBC are now suggesting that incest is WRONG are they?
No we fuckin love it! It one of our rules of employment.
Catastrophe: Oh dear. Hillhunt is back.
How the UK’s ‘strong’ Labour Prime Minister spends his weekend, as dutifully reported, without criticism or edgy humour, by the BBC:
1.)Brown plays the dhimmi and shakes hands with Saudi ‘ex’-al Qaeda supporters:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7704968.stm
‘Telegraph’:
“Gordon Brown shakes hands with Muslim extremists during Saudi visit”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/saudiarabia/3367084/Gordon-Brown-shakes-hands-with-Muslim-extremists-during-Saudi-visit.html
2.)Brown also plays dhimmi to Arabs on oil prices. Brown’s ‘policy’: ask Arabs for higher oil production and power oil prices:
“PM calls for oil price stability”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7703862.stm
– Response of Arab oil producers to Brown: – to lower oil production to keep prices charged to kaffirs high, as this is the Islamic justified JIZYAH:
“STOP THE JIZYAH” by Hugh Fitzgerald:
[Opening extract]:
“The peoples of Western Europe and the United States, as members of the oil-consuming nations, have had to pay a very large share, over the past third-of-a-century, of the ten trillion dollars that has been transferred from oil-consumers to the oil (and gas) producers of the Arab and Muslim nations of OPEC, and who are now paying, on top of those amounts, huge sums for security to protect themselves against the acts of their local Muslim populations, including the cost of monitoring such populations, and the cost of police, lawyers, judges, and then of course prisons for all those Muslims who are caught engaged in the kind of activities, from robbery to rape of Infidels — that are not seen by the Muslim perpetrators as criminal, but rather what the Infidels deserve, what they have coming to them, by presuming to lord it over Muslims, presuming to think that Infidel laws and institutions and social arrangements have any value, and should be protected from Muslim demands.
“And then there are, in addition, the vast sums transferred through all the benefits that sometimes absurdly generous welfare states, set up by, and with the money of, Infidels, and which welfare systems are now being milked for everything they can by the burgeoning Muslim populations of France, of Spain, of Great Britain, of Belgium, Germany, Norway, Sweden, Netherlands, Denmark, and Italy.” (Hugh Fitzgerald).
http://www.newenglishreview.org/custpage.cfm?frm=7159&sec_id=7159
George R:
“STOP THE JIZYAH”
Not while my sister is around.
It isn’t very difficult to hijack an identity here, as posting requires a measure of honesty.
In another thread I think it was adam saying it was Mr. Brand.
The wit fits.
A point well made betyangelo…If only you were the TRUE betyangelo and not an obvious imposter.
However, I have devised a cunning test to find out who the real betyangelo is.
The fake betyangelo would not have mastered basic empathy being as she is clearly an internet Go-bot programmed merely to infiltrate important web blogs and post fake messages. So to the first betyangelo I ask the question thusly:
“Whilst conversing with a friend, a tiny globule of spit flies from their tongue and lands on your face. Do you:-
A) Pretend not to notice, wait until your friend is momentarily distracted and then pretend to scratch the area where it has landed, therby wiping it discreetly away.
B) Declare loudly in a mocking voice: “Ugh, you just flobbed on my face you dirty git. Wipe it off!”
C) Follow the URL on the nearest web page and leave an asinine comments on various web blogs.
I wait for your reply with baited breath – fake betyangelo.
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I thought this thread was about the BBC – I think we should stick to that – and all the other daft stuff should be put where it belongs on facebook
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BBC report:
“Opec head urges production cuts”
OR:
‘The effect of Brown’s visit to Saudi Arabia’
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7704786.stm
Hilarious video clip mocking the affluent American left:
http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid271557392?bctid=1842856410
I see the BBC are doing a nice job publishing Government spin again.
Note the headline ‘improving’ as opposed to the article ‘may be improving’
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7705444.stm
BBC report (inc, dhimmi video):
“Brown meets al-Qaeda suspects”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7705126.stm
‘Jihadwatch’ report:
“Britain’s Brown meets and shakes hands with al-Qaeda linked terrorists in Saudi Arabia”
[Extract]:
“He (Brown) also just got done imploring the Saudis for financial aid, going so far as to promise ‘business leaders in the Gulf that they would have a say in any future new world economic order.’ To which JW reader Morgaan asks, ‘is Gordon Brown to be making pledges on behalf of the whole Western world that Saudi Arabia will have a say in sculpting the new world financial order’?”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/023330.php
We knew it already, but now we have this new awful evidence of Brown’s dhimmitude in Saudi Arabia.
No doubt, Brown, on his return to Britain, will be seaching out the likes of Abu Hamza, so that he can shake his hand.
staistically the best way to get the poor to catch up with the middle classes is for a harsh recession where everyone gets poorer but the middle classes disproportiontely so. You must admit that Labour have sleepwalked us into a recession- so achieving their tagets .Another box ticked. Also most of these clowns doing research for the Labour party are paid to do it by the Labour party so objectivity might be a strain for them.
David CAMERON, in ‘The Sun’ on BBC:
“Bloated BBC out of touch with viewers”
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1884401.ece
Cameron : BBC is Bloated and Left-Wing, But I Appreciate It
http://www.order-order.com/2008/11/cameron-bbc-is-bloated-and-left-wing.html
Unimpressed | 02.11.08 – 11:11 am
This is my comment to the BBC HYS which was published and has now been rejected, can anyone tell me why?.
Perhaps because you wrote became to much instead of became too much?
Seriously, that’s about what it takes to get your comment rejected if you are checked by a “moderator” who is particularly sensitive about his or her darling BBC.
Though careful not to break any of the Have Your Say House Rules, I have had a number of comments rejected for no reason other than moderator bias. It’s long overdue that the BBC take a careful look at the moderators. Problem is, there are few, if any, BBC staff capable of understanding the concept of impartiality, leave alone acting on it.
‘Broadcasters have a responsibility’
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/nov/03/interview-jeremy-hunt
george r – you might add that the same item also had two americans on: reading’s goalkeeper, marcus hanneman, who explained at length why he would vote mccain. and a woman who seemed undecided, but certainly praised mccain.
whitewineliberal | 02.11.08 – 11:51 am
It did? Were these two strange creatures simply thrown in as a token gesture towards balance or do you seriously believe the BBC does not have a horse in the US election race? Can anyone really imagine BBC staff viewing McCain supporters sympathetically or being within miles of their side of the debate? I can’t.
I have no idea. But they were on that item. Hanneman wasn’t mocked for his views.
Why did the vile Today Programme completely ignore Cameron’s attack on BBC executive pay? Whould they have ignored such a delicious “snouts in the trough” story if it had concerned MPs or – even worse – businessmen?
Of course not.
This is what the story’s about:
The BBC spends £14.3million a year on the salaries of just 50 managers, it emerged last night.
Half of them are paid more than Gordon Brown.
The money would pay for 677 nurses, 695 teachers, 540 firefighters or 586 police officers.
BBC director-general Mark Thompson, who was already under fire over the pay of stars like Jonathan Ross, insisted the BBC had to pay competitive salaries to get the best people.
He said: ‘Of course, compared to many people’s average pay, they seem very substantial.
‘But the public also want the Controller of BBC1 to be the best possible person for that job – it’s an £800million television network.’
Mr Thompson himself had a take-home salary of £816,000 last year, while ITV executive chairman Michael Grade was paid around £2million.”
Hypocrites, liars and bullies, the lot of them.
Dont’ forget the generous BBC index liked pensions.
As d: point out don’t forget the generous BBC index linked pensions, or the fact that the BBC has refused along with the Parliamentary Pension Fund to release the figure of employees who have pension pots worth in excess of 1 million pound.
This is on top of the average public sector workers average pension pot of 427,275 pounds which would give a pension of 17,091 a year, as for the private sector worker….well the average pension plot is worth 25,000, which works out at 1,700 pounds a year.
Not something the BBC or Labour seem to wish to discuss, I would imagine that this would also force millions of public sector workers to vote Labour to keep their pensions intact.
I forgot to add the following link:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk
^^ Guido is wrong on that, in my view. I honestly think the Conservatives want to do something dramatic with the BBC; even though he hasn’t called for such action, the fact that Cameron has actually written an article critcal of the BBC is a huge step forward. At the moment however, it would be suicidal for the Conservatives to come out and promise to destroy the BBC. It would rally the pro-BBC lobby, and we all know that they would be the sort of people who can shout loud enough to make their views seem like the majority. And it would also put the BBC into bias overdrive, and with essentially an unlimited budget to defend themselves, the Tories wouldn’t stand a chance at getting their message across.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/nov/03/george-bush-legacy-dubya
The outrageous article by the BBC’s very own left-wing historian really highlights the bias that the BBC is currently wallowing in, how on earth did the BBC think he was the right man to present a series on Americas future?.
The article is so obviously anti-republican that OFCOM should be investigating why this man was allowed to present a series on America just before the US elections.
David | 03.11.08 – 12:22 pm
I think you are right that the conservatives would like to do more to rein in the BBC, but are playing it cautious.
What’s needed is a toe-in-the-water trial.
I believe a small measure, and one which would command cross-party support, would be for a one-line private members bill next year limiting the number of people the BBC is allowed to pay a salary higher than that of the prime minister to 10.
Cameron plays this perfectly IMO – had he gone into full attack mode the BBC would have swung even further (yes that is still possible)into blatant Labour bias. There’s just enough their for the Beeboids to stop and consider if they might not be better off following their remit and reposrting the news, not their leftie skewed propaganda dressed up as opinion.
The “class divide narrowed under Labour” is a very strange article for the BBC to headline. When discussed in a little more detail on the Toady programme it all seemed an incredibly damp squib, but of course most people only remember the “sound bite”. Labour spin on the BBC? Whatever next.
The “research” seems to revolve around improving GCSE results. I was always under the imprssion that GCSE difficulty has been constantly reduced in the quest for “prizes for all”. Thus allowing for a suitable adjusting factor for that the truth is probably just the opposite of what is claimed.
Why does the Labour Party want to improve social mobility. Surely that would eat into what they believe to be their natural support base. Very few are likely to do so well that they become champagne socialists are they, although J. K. Rowling does come to mind.
Lyons may regret speaking out as regional publishers call in lawyers
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/greenslade/2008/nov/03/bbc-theregions
The BBC Trust cannot be the chief cheerleader for the BBC, encouraging it to extend local services out of more and more taxpayers’ money, at the same time as being the independent regulator determining the public value of those services and their impact on local media.
Worth a try, evidently. Maybe they thought no one would notice. Or care.
BBC: “Latin terms banned to avoid confusing the public” (from the link text on their front page)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/default.stm
Daily Mail: “The councils who ban Latin words because they are ‘elitist and discriminatory’ and confuse immigrants”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1082427/The-councils-ban-Latin-words-elitist-discriminatory-confuse-immigrants.html
So which detail did the BBC intentionally leave out? Hmmmm.
“The councils who ban Latin words because they . . confuse immigrants”
. . not the ones from Rumania though (unless they’re “Roma”, of course, in which case, despite the name, there’s no chance that they might be descended from the original Roman settlers).
Some folk have too much time on their hands. QED.
Also just noticed a wee glitch that might employ many officers for many days if they write the funding application well enough.
‘et cetera’ is often abbreviated ‘etc’, I believe.
Now, I see possible problems with either the easily offended or Japanese communities substituting “and so on”.
So now Russell Brand is here in the States. Thanks UK. About his performance in LA, the Times Online reports:
“He (Russell Brand) then proceeded to launch into a comic routine that included switching on the house lights to see which audience members he wanted to have sex with, and making offhand jokes about punching women in the face, pimping them out, and urinating on them.
For the most part, it was extremely well received.”
For the most part I feel like giving up.