ROCKET-MAN.

Visceral BBC prejudice against Israel will constitute a full chapter to itself in the forthcoming book on BBC bias. As Israel continues to righteously take out Hamas terror infrastructure, the BBC is naturally giving Pallywood every opportunity to portray itself, and its rocketeers of course, as victims. Their only crime is to be, erm, Jihadists. So I thought I might open up this thread for you to detail some of the worst excesses you are bound to come across as the BBC rallies around Hamastan. Just as well Harold Pinter is dead, he would be so upset to discover Israel is still capable of defending itself.

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111 Responses to ROCKET-MAN.

  1. MattLondon says:

    It’s a while since I commented on Biased-BBC – I read it less and less nowadays because I think it is so weird in its search for bias and what it identifies as bias that it is ceasing to be an effective voice for many of us who are concerned about the BBC’s bias.

    The reactions to Israel’s attacks on Gaza and the BBC’s coverage of it is too typical. It isn’t the BBC’s “bias” you are angry about, it is just that you want it to share your view of the justification of Israel’s actions.

    I don’t think Israel’s actions were justified. I think what they did was mass murder. I may think Hamas are stupid and wrong in their generally ineffective attempts to use terror to as a weapon against Israel – much as I regard much that we did in WW2 in our bombing of Germany – but I can understand their frustration after 60 years of their land being taken and occupied by what is now the state of Israel. I know few people on either wing of politics – specially those who have travelled in Israel/Palestine in recent years – who do not regard Israel as a brutal, criminal oppressor.

    I have listened to the BBC and scanned much of the other news coverage. Compared to a lot of the BBC’s day to day coverage, their coverage of these last two days has not been markedly different form that of other media.

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  2. Martin says:

    225 down. 1.5 billion to go. Go Israel.

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  3. Ben says:

    MattLondon, can’t let those pesky Jews defend themselves now in order to destabilize the status quo can we! Tell me, were you this outraged when the Russians decimated half of Georgia, killing scores of innocent civilians? Of course not, the BBC didn’t tell you about Georgian casualties, show photos of young Georgian children orphaned and run extensive “human interest” stories of Georgians displaced and murdered. How about all of the innocent victims of Darfur, a situation that has claimed many many more lives than this relatively minor conflict. Why does the BBC devote such a disproportionate amount of time and resources to a conflict that is minor in terms of casualties and combatants? Anti-Jew bias perhaps? The chance to use every single Israeli action as a platform to bash Israel, ie: the collective Jew? That’s where your bias lies.

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  4. GCooper says:

    I avoid commenting on the Middle East but I can’t let the following from ‘MattLondon’ pass:

    “…their coverage of these last two days has not been markedly different form that of other media.”

    That would, presumably, be the other media recruited almost solely from the output of our political indoctrination factories, would it?

    The lockstep beliefs of our bien pensant media class are hardly a measure of objectivity.

    My most recent ‘switch that damned thing off’ moment was listening to a Radio 4 BBC correspondent (his name escapes me, but he has been mentioned here by several commenters) whose grasp of English was, at best, rudimentary and whom I had taken to be a spokesman for Hamas, until I heard him thanked by the programme presenter.

    I am not one of the ‘usual subjects’ here, waiting for any and every opportunity to support the Israeli cause, but even I have been angered by the BBC’s clear lack of objectivity in this matter.

    Incidentally, your comment about allied bombing in WWII provides the key to your sentiments – the comfortable moral relativism of someone who has never lived
    at the point of a sword.

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  5. Un:dhimmi says:

    Methinks the Indymedia bath-dodgers are out on a field trip..

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  6. Axel says:

    These cries of the phrase “disproportionate response” annoy me to no end.

    What the hell is a proportionate response, then?

    If you’re walking down the street and someone throws a punch at you, do just throw a punch back and walk away? Absolutely not! You either beat them up completely so that they do not have the capacity to throw anymore punches at you, or if you lack the power to do so, you call the police so that they can lock him up or sue him or what not.

    Punishments are inherently meant to be disproportionate, so that the criminal thinks twice before throwing another punch.

    *sigh*
    So the BBC just started an “Are the Israeli strikes on Gaza justified?” ‘Have Your Say’.. More blatant bias.
    It’s like saying “We question Israel’s actions, but not Hamas’ actions”

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  7. S. Weasel says:

    Palestinians deliberately aim rockets at Israeli civilians, but their aim or their gear is complete shit and they mostly miss. So they’re the good guys.

    Israelis target the Palestinians firing rockets, who hide among civilians, and so hit some civilians as well. So they’re the bad guys.

    How far ’round the bend do you have to be to see it this way?

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  8. moonbat nibbler says:

    The current lead image at news.bbc.co.uk looks like a blatant photoshop:

    http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45330000/jpg/_45330507_ap_man226x260x.jpg

    The bloke looks like a cut-out that has been placed on a background. If you zoom into the image you see the left-side edge of the man’s head is a straight line.

    Yesterday’s headline was about “scores” being dead. What happened to beeboids telling us that emotional language shouldn’t be used?

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  9. xjboy550 says:

    just checked the image moonbat and you’r right the figure shows up pixels but his background dose not hmmm plus the fire is very intense to be that close !!!!

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  10. David Vance says:

    Fauxtography once again – part of Pallywood and embraced by Al Beeb.

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  11. Robert says:

    Nice one Matt! BBC output here is “not markedly different from other media”, and that’s wheeled out in their defense. On the myriad other occasions when every other news outlet is reporting international (EU) criticism of Gordon brown’s policies or Conservative leads in the opinion polls, which are completely censored on the BBC, the BBC defenders always tell us: “the benefit of the BBC is that it doesn’t follow the herd”. Surely they can’t be right both times?

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  12. David Vance says:

    Matt,

    Sorry if my coverage disappoints but from the site stats, there are many more that come here than leave these days. I do not consider it “weird” to point out the BBC’s pro-Palestinian bias. Do you?

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  13. George R says:

    We remember this – al- Beeb and the BALEN report (classified ‘secret’ by the BBC) – and these Beeboid attitudes continue to this day:

    ‘Dail Telegraph’ (2 years ago)

    “BBC mounts court fight to keep ‘critical’ report secret”

    [Extract]:

    “The BBC has spent thousands of pounds of licence payers’ money trying to block the release of a report which is believed to be highly critical of its Middle East coverage.

    “The corporation is mounting a landmark High Court action to prevent the release of The Balen Report under the Freedom of Information Act, despite the fact that BBC reporters often use the Act to pursue their journalism.

    “The action will increase suspicions that the report, which is believed to run to 20,000 words, includes evidence of anti-Israeli bias in news programming.”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1531443/BBC-mounts-court-fight-to-keep-%27critical%27-report-secret.html

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  14. DB says:

    From the BBC:
    The main hospital in Gaza City is reportedly struggling to cope, and Egypt has opened its border with Gaza at Rafah to let the injured seek treatment there.
    But the Egyptian foreign minister has accused Hamas of not allowing injured Palestinians to leave Gaza to seek treatment, even though much-needed medical supplies are waiting at the nearby El-Arish airport.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7801662.stm

    The Jerusalem Post also reports the criticism by the Egyptian foreign minister, but it has another interesting quote which the BBC chose not to share:
    Asked who was to blame for the dire situation in Gaza, the foreign minister replied: “Ask the party that controls Gaza.”
    http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1230456495581&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

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  15. Martin says:

    Yes that BBC image does look fake. The man’s hands are blurred indicating a slow shutter speed but the image behind him looks sharp indicating a higher shutter speed.

    Also the pixel size does look different between the man and the background.

    All that is missing is a ‘Baby milk factory’ sign

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  16. buzzdroid says:

    artillery batteries deployed…

    http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1230111723191&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

    this is gonna get ugly before its all over – but what did Hamas expect would happen? be showered with flowers?

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  17. George R says:

    A corrective for the BBC on ‘Palestinian nation’:

    ‘Dhimmiwatch’:

    “Fitzgerald: “A ‘Palestinian nationality’?”

    [Extract]:

    “Once the understanding spreads that the war against Israel is a classic Jihad, and is not, and never has been, a ‘clash of two tiny peoples’ etc., this will bring a greater clarity not only to the confused Israeli public (and its largely unimpressive political leaders), but also to the larger Infidel world. The world needs to comprehend how that Jihad against Israel is only a subset of the more general, worldwide Jihad effort. That effort is expressed locally, and uses different instruments depending on what is possible, and effective, taking into account local conditions and the nature of the local Infidels.

    “Here’s a sample of what should be better known:
    Before the Six-Day War, not a single Arab spokesman, at the U.N. or anywhere else, and not a single Arab document, referred to the local Arabs as the ‘Palestinian people.’ They appeared, as if by magic — summoned by the public-relations advisors to Arafat — only after that war made clear that the Arab dream of going in for the kill had been dashed, and that a different, long-term effort was necessary.” (Hugh Fitzgerald, 2006).

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/010639.php

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  18. Anonymous says:

    The bottom line is that the Western world is so desperate to lick the butts of Arabs to assure that the oil taps remain open that the most heinous of criminal elements are given legitimacy. What have the Palestinians exported for the past 60 years – suicide bombers. On the other hand, the tiny sliver of a State of Israel is delegitimized, and blamed for defending itself against this culture of death. What has Israel exported for the past 60 years? Try brilliant advances in medicine, agriculture, information technology, and on and on it goes. Sad isn’t it?

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  19. deegee says:

    Katya Adler sets (lowers) the bar for bias in Israel’s mixed motives for strikes

    It take a ‘little’ while before the motive is expressed (Forty lines to be precise) but the motive is upcoming elections loom But Israel’s politicians are pursuing a parallel campaign, too – an electoral one.

    Unsurprisingly no evidence other than unsupported innuendo is presented.

    Adler introduces the Obama factor
    It is also possible that Israel has decided to act against Hamas now, during the last days of a friendly Bush administration in the United States. No evidence necessary for that one. It’s also possible Barak just doesn’t like Sundays but I would never go public with such a theory without a smidgen of proof.

    As always any threats or actions presented by Hamas, such as their ending the ceasefire, are reduced to the Israelis say.

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  20. DB says:

    More from the Egyptian foreign minister:
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=5roptSbO3GQ

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  21. Jon says:

    deegee | 28.12.08 – 3:42 pm |

    Exactly – the BBC “journalists” use their own opinions (which is against the BBCs guidelines) – this was highlighted by the Mails piece on Robert Peston.

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  22. Va$ili says:

    All people are naturally biased, the real question is it an immoral and deliberate bias? In the case of the BBC, the bias is immoral and deliberate.

    Most people think of the Palestinians as an oppressed nationality, which has strong resonance in the Western mind with its curious concern for oppressed nationalities. Most are completely unaware the fundamentally jihadist–Koranically mandated–nature of Hamas and others.

    They’re also unaware of the nature of NATO. Start here: The Pictures the Fooled the World

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  23. buzzdroid says:

    some useful blogs with updates, latest news etc

    http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/

    http://muqata.blogspot.com/

    http://www.israellycool.com

    and since its looking increasingly likely that the IDF will be going into action soon, lets not forget “Pizza IDF”…

    http://pizzaidf.org/

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  24. Atlas shrugged says:

    David Vance

    You are of course correct that the BBC is consistently Anti-Israeli terrorism and Pro Muslim terrorism. The BBC does not therefore promote peace, as it never has. The BBC promotes WAR division and discontent, anywhere it is told/instructed/mind controlled to promote them all. This may not always be obvious, but it does so all the same.

    It would be nice for a change if the BBC took some time to work out who causes ALL TERRORISM, including itself, and did something about it.

    Like for example; instead of encouraging the murder of innocent people on both sides of any conflict. It conspired with Israeli or Muslim terrorists to BLOW ITSELF UP. Thus doing the whole world a simply massive favor.

    ( please note; this is called IRONY, and therefore is just a sort of joke. In no way am I actually advocating any type of violence or destructive act towards anything or any body)

    Another thing the BBC should do but never of course will be allowed to. Is to expose the people really behind virtually all the violence in the world, and especially violence in the middle east.

    Which is not essentially American, British, European, Papal, Masonic, Israeli, Arab, Christian, Muslim Jewish or indeed Hindu. It is all and none of these things at the same time.

    TWO very important things to bare in mind when trying to work out who or what actually conspires to cause mass death and destruction.

    The first is work out WHO exactly benefits from violent conflict. Because it sure is not EVER the ordinary people, whether they are said to have lost or indeed won.

    The second is work out WHO exactly has the power to not only start a violent destructive conflict, but also has the power to STOP it whenever they wish to do so.

    WE KNOW do we not, that if the powers that be wanted to stop past wars, by if no other method, by cutting off finance or credit and therefore weapons supply and political support, they could do so, because they have done so in the past?

    The first world war for example stopped almost the same day the international banking system refused to lend/give the Holy Roman Empire any more cash.

    Likewise Irish Republican and Loyalist terrorism.

    You simply can not sustain any type of viable long term campaign of either war or terrorism without a large amount of money constantly arriving from somewhere, somehow.

    This therefore has to come via a large banking corporation directly or indirectly and sometimes very indirectly. But the money all comes from the same place in the end. Not only this, the system KNOWS where all the really large amounts are and who has control of it.

    Please be reminded.

    The British government knew for 30 years where all the leaders and much of the rest of Irish and loyalist terrorism lived, and worked. They knew where the guns where coming from and where the finance was coming from as well.

    YET THE BRITISH or more accurately World ESTABLISHMENT DID as good as NOTHING.

    It certainly did not invade these peoples homes virtually ever, and it certainly did not seriously consider arresting the US government or The people that control The BOE, or indeed invading The Irish Republic, murdering thousands of Irish citizens.

    HOWEVER

    It did, I contend because it conspired to do so, invade and murder thousands of innocent Muslims in Afghanistan within a few months and Iraq within a few years. Whats even more SUSPECT is that this was because a foreign country namely The USA had been attacked, not because The UK had been.

    SURLY actual events do not make common SENSE, unless you follow my very well informed, highly logical reasoning.

    I contend that if it had not been for mainly BBC mind control, most of you lot would still possess some of the common sense you were born with. Therefore would have little of no psychological problems understanding how the world actually works.

    I contend that the more a person watches TV and the BBC in particular, whether he agree with any of it or not, the more ignorant and confused and therefore mind controllable he becomes.

    I also contend that an addiction to TV in general and TV news and current affairs in particular, is as potentially dangerous to yourself and your families life, liberty, prosperity, and indeed sanity, as all the other well known addictions put together.

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  25. buzzdroid says:

    sky news reporter has just repeated the LIE that gaza is one of the “most densely popuplated places on earth”…

    can’t they use Wikipedia for fucks sake?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population_density

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  26. Anat (Israel) says:

    What the hell is a proportionate response, then?
    Axel | 28.12.08 – 1:50 pm |

    As far as I remember, in internationl conventions “proportionate response” is the force needed to cancel out the threat by an aggressor. In this particular case, it is the force needed to disable Hamas rocket power. This necessarily means destroying the rockets, their operators and their makers, which is precisely what Israel is doing at this very moment.

    I have no doubt the Beeb et alia know this full well. They just pretend, as suits their propaganda objectives.
    .

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  27. buzzdroid says:

    Atlas shrugged | 28.12.08 – 4:06 pm

    which is why i get all my news from multiple sources now, mostly on the internet.

    tv news is a joke.

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  28. Anonymous says:

    For First Time, Christmas Official Holiday in Iraq

    “Iraq’s Christians, a scant minority in this overwhelmingly Muslim country, quietly celebrated Christmas on Thursday with a present from the government, which declared it an official holiday for the first time
    http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=6526938

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  29. lmao says:

    “unless you follow my very well informed, highly logical reasoning.”

    Thanks for the laughs.

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  30. buzzdroid says:

    very interesting article – how the gaza offensive came about…

    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1050426.html

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  31. libertus says:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/

    I share the suspicion that this is a piece of fauxtography supplied by Hamas to the BBC: not only is the detail too sharp, but the man looks strikingly like the one-armed Hamas ‘policeman’ or ‘securitate’ who has earlier featured on the BBC website. It looks like a scene from a James Bond film.

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  32. Jon says:

    “BBC journalist and Gaza resident Hamada Abu Qammar describes the impact of the current wave of Israeli airstrikes against Hamas targets.”
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7801973.stm

    Just change the words and see how it highlights the pure stupidity of the BBC expecting an objective report to follow.

    “BBC journalist and German resident Wolfgang Shimt describes the impact of the current wave of British airstrikes against SS targets.”

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  33. kersal flyer says:

    Mahmoud Abbas is a happy man today:
    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=84699

    “PA leader ‘begged’ Israel to hit Hamas.
    To world, however, Abbas condemns Gaza strikes as ‘barbaric,’ ‘unnecessary'”

    “… according to top diplomatic sources in Jerusalem, Abbas for months now has been petitioning Israel to launch a massive military raid against his Hamas rivals in Gaza.”

    “The sources, speaking to WND on condition of anonymity, said Abbas and his top representatives have waged a quiet campaign for months asking the Israeli government to target Hamas in Gaza just before his term in office is scheduled to expire on Jan. 9.”

    “Abbas hopes a large-scale Israeli military campaign in Gaza would distract Hamas from attempting to undermine his rule, the diplomatic sources told WND.”

    “It’s an open secret among the diplomatic and military brass,” one Israeli diplomatic source said. “The campaign from Abbas for us to attack Hamas in Gaza has been intensive.”

    Something to do with this, perhaps?

    “Hamas planning new PLO to compete with U.S.-backed Abbas.”

    “In a move that could have monumental ramifications, the Hamas terrorist organization is quietly working to create its own Palestine Liberation Organization, or PLO, to compete with the well-known group of the same namesake headed by Abbas, Hamas officials told WND earlier this week.”

    “The effort is part of a larger expected Hamas campaign to delegitimize Abbas after Jan. 9.”

    “A new poll published by the Western-oriented Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research released earlier this month showed 64 percent of Palestinians believe Abbas’ term should not be prolonged. Only 24 percent believe he should remain in office.”

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  34. The Beebinator says:

    matt first post,

    u have Stockholm Syndrome

    seek help urgently

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  35. DB says:

    libertus | 28.12.08 – 4:28 pm

    I don’t think it’s fauxtography, but it fits in with something I’ve noticed about some of the pictures from Gaza in the past couple of days:
    http://i39.tinypic.com/350uo1l.jpg

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  36. DB says:

    That link went down rather quickly. Try again:
    http://www.imgfreehost.com/out.php?i25198_pallywoodpoint.jp

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  37. DB says:

    Original link now back. Apologies.

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  38. buzzdroid says:

    fake protest, organised by the enemies of Israel – namely, Iran, Hezbollah

    http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1230456502212&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

    i noted that on the sky news report of this the “protestors” were carrying Hezbollah and Iranian flags.

    Iran must be worried so – looks like the game is up for their proxy army Hamas.

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  39. buzzdroid says:

    DB | 28.12.08 – 5:43 pm

    heh. thats awesome!

    next up – the “car swarm” or “dead guy on a stretcher”

    anyone else notice the new Hamas Pallywood production yesterday and was carried by sky and other news orgs.. the “carry uninjured child into the hospital” shot.

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  40. DB says:

    buzzdroid | 28.12.08 – 5:52 pm

    Israellycool has added my Pallywood pointing montage to his blog which is really cool.

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  41. TPO says:

    MattLondon | 28.12.08 – 12:57 pm |

    I may be wrong but I think you typify the mindset of the Liberal Left ‘Intelligensia’.
    For them history in Israel/Palestine started in 1948.

    I would recommend picking up a copy of Martin Gilbert’s Atlas of the Arab-Israeli Conflict (ISBN 0-19-521042-5).

    Particularly of interest is the period covering the late 19th and early 20th Centuries, where early returnees of the diaspora bought barren and inhospitable land from the Arabs at exhorbitant and grossly inflated prices.
    The chronicle of events following these purchases is quite disturbing.
    On creating viable and arable farms out of the desert, the Jewish settlers were promptly exterminated or driven from their lands by greedy Arabs too lazy to improve their own lot by their own endeavours.

    You say ” I know few people on either wing of politics – specially those who have travelled in Israel/Palestine in recent years – who do not regard Israel as a brutal, criminal oppressor.”

    Not only have I lived and worked in Arab countries, I have also taken holidays in Israel.
    No I do not find the Israelis to be ‘brutal criminal oppressors’
    With the exception of the Omanis, I have found the Arabs to be an unpleasant and dishonest bunch.
    Personally I despise them.
    As for the BBC’s biased reporting, well that is self-evident.
    Lets see what the Balen report has to say about it shall we.
    Oh I nearly forgot, the BBC has hoodwinked a judge into believing that ‘journalistic priviledge’ should hold sway.

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  42. buzzdroid says:

    DB | 28.12.08 – 6:08 pm

    wow. awesome… that’ll spread like crazy now.

    well done!

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  43. Hoob Waahed says:

    Realisation of the holy Qur’an – Basic Palestinian Human Right‏‏‏‏

    The right to worship and practise religion ritual is a basic human right issue of our modern society; and it is a honourable cause to allow anyone to reach their full potential of their religious realisation.

    The holy Qur’an is the centre of existence for majority of Muslims in the world, accordingly daily routines, laws and interaction with the people surrounding are mastered. A jihad is a novel cause to reach the higher self of education, religious practice and spreading the word of Allah. Spreading jihad can be both peaceful and more forceful as the holy Qur’an also calls to Kill and be Killed when spreading the word of god to infidels, thus Kill and be Killed is an Islamic Human and Religious Right when following the holy script. Death is an Islamic quest and as such a religious realisation.

    Palestinians elected democratically Hamas, which with it’s religious founder the slain Sheikh Ahmed Ismail Yassin preach and glorify suicide bombings by becoming martyrs thus entering paradise. Islamic clerics teach this philosophy not only in Gaza, but as we have seen on TV, in Mosques, community centres all over the world and here in Europe as well. We can see on TV young children in Gaza strapped with vest demo explosives put by their own parents at rallies against the West. Women, men and children when interviewed want to become martyrs; they show proudly on TV their ready vests. Death is their purpose of living.

    Islamic clerics glorify entry to paradise by martyrdom, suicide bombing and advocating Kill and be Killed. Palestinians have been following meticulously this religious obligation. Palestinians voted in democratic elections their quest to Kill and be Killed; Palestinians kill Israelis, Israelis retaliate and kill them. Palestinians kill and they are being killed and reaching heaven to harvest their promised 72 black-eyed virgins in realisation of the holy script of the Qur’an; Israelis are allowing Palestinians to fulfil this democratic choice. Israelis are gratifying a basic Palestinian Religious Right to Kill and be Killed and as such are enabling them to reach their humanitarian and Islamic religious quest • realisation of the sacred script of the holy Qur’an.

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  44. buzzdroid says:

    i pity the HamasoNazis when they reach the pearly gates of heaven only to realise that the 72 virgins was a mistranslation – its actually 72 raisins.

    actually, come to think of it, i dont pity them.

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  45. Atlas shrugged says:

    “So what is it all about Atlas. I mean if these people are that rich and powerful already, what are they trying to achieve now?”

    I can hear the less stupid of you asking.

    The SYSTEM wants to take ultimately complete and utter control of the entire planet. It already has all the worlds governments well and truly in its pocket. What it needs to complete the job is total control or indeed ownership of all of your personal wealth and YOUR MINDS as well.

    The system likes people like myself because I am wising the public up to the fact that ultimately MONEY rules EVERYTHING including Israeli/Arab conflicts.

    NOW THIS IS THE REALLY CLEVER BIT.

    Therefore if you can bring in a system that seriously controls ALL money you can STOP ALL WARS.

    ( we already have such a system, it is called the BIS or Bank of International Settlements, but that’s not the point, or maybe it is the point?)

    That means ALL serious WARS and revolutionary civil unrest, not just all of the ones THEY START. Which is all of the serious wars and revolutionary civil unrest so far. GET IT?

    More regulation is what the system desperately desires. So more regulation and therefore a complete and total financial MONOPOLY control is what it will get, one way or another.

    They will at this point not only more or less stop starting wars etc themselves. ANY discontent from the people will be impossible to express itself in any way at all including nationally or internationally organized non violent protest, and of course, the utter nonsense that has always been so called free elections. Because one thing British or American elections never have been is FREE, in any sense of the word.

    Some people, especially, Common Purpose subversives, or other ideologically brainwashed death wishing control freaks like Communists, Fascists, Nazis, Fabians and real socialists out there, may even like this New World Order. If indeed many of them live to see its completion. I also can see some attractions, but as a life time REAL conservative, unfortunately very few.

    The question to ask yourself is this.

    If/as these people have been basically directly responsible for all the murder and mayhem of the last 200-5000 odd years. They are evidently the only people qualified to run the world. But can we really trust them to look after it and us nicely in the future for what will be effectively our material ETERNITY?

    I contend not, you on the other hand may have a different opinion, which I would simply love to read. As long as it does not include direct personal abuse, straw man arguments, tin hats or lizard people.

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  46. Pete says:

    The BBC’s unworldly and left-leaning news staff are perfectly entitled to their predictable views on the Israel/Gaza story.

    But why do I have to pay for them just because I want to watch football on Sky Sports without getting a fine and a criminal record?

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  47. deegee says:

    i pity the HamasoNazis when they reach the pearly gates of heaven
    buzzdroid | 28.12.08 – 6:33 pm

    Haven’t you heard? So many shaheeds are arriving that latecomers have to accept used virgins.

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  48. libertus says:

    “A major tunnel bringing fuel into Gaza from Egypt was among three destroyed, Palestinians say. But Israel says its jets bombed more than 40 tunnels.

    Israel accuses Palestinian militants of using the tunnels to smuggle weapons into Gaza.”

    Who in their right mind builds a TUNNEL – for heaven’s sake – in open desert land to bring in fuel? Everyone knows they are used to bring in weapons. What prevents the BBC saying this? Oh, yeah, stupid question.

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  49. pounce says:

    The bBC and Not the Nine O/Clock News.

    Norway Turned Down Hamas Request for Mediation

    Hamas turned to Norway for mediation in light of Israel’s latest counterterror operation in Gaza, according to a Sunday night report on Channel Two television.

    The station’s diplomatic correspondent reports that the Oslo government turned the Islamist terrorists down

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/158207

    The bBC and Not the Nine O/Clock News.

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  50. pounce says:

    The bBC and Not the Nine O/Clock News.

    Egyptian FM: Hamas Rockets Caused IDF Attack

    Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Aboul Gheit said that Cairo had little sympathy for Hamas. “Egypt warned Hamas for a long time that this would happen, and whoever doubted this warning is responsible,” he said at a news conference in Cairo. “We knew this was going to happen because Hamas would not stop firing rockets at Israel,” he said.

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/158136

    The bBC and Not the Nine O/Clock News.

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