I am puzzled that the world media has not reported the startling news that Hamas have left Gaza. That is certainly the impression the BBC conveys because in its latest reports on the cleansing of Gaza, it reports that 391 “Palestinians” have been killed so far. Yes, but apparently not one of these has been a Hamas terrorist. So, as in Lebanon in 2006, the BBC refuses to number how many of the dead are Islamic Jihadi militia and instead lumps them all into one big convenient number which is then used to portray Israel as the cruel oppressor of poor innocent Arabs. I also note the continued pro-Hamas testimony of Jeremy Bowen, a man who makes Orla Guerin seem objective on Middle Eastern affairs! It would a lot more honest if the BBC just came clean, admitted they loath Israel and are license payer funded shills for the so-called Palestinians. The pretence of neutrality is so risible as to beyond parody.
HAVE HAMAS LEFT HAMASTAN?
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I watched the BBC TV news last night, first time in ages, and was impressed by quite how blatantly
biased Jeremy Bowen was in his “reporting”. Jeremy Bowen and the BBC must be absolutely certain of the correctness of their position to be so biased in their reporting. The underlying bile directed at Israel and the total acceptance of all their Hamas stringers are telling them would shame a proper journalist, the BBC seem to feel no shame.
I see the BBC have now sent in the terrorists best friend ‘Lyse Ducet’ to Israel.
Hopefully a smart bomb will take her out along with Bowen.
Protesters against BBC Gaza coverage glue themselves to entrance barriers
Bob Cottrell and Dee Murphy, of the Swansea-Palestine link group, were released after causing disruption in the foyer for almost three hours.
Another member of the group, Fiona Williams, claimed the BBC’s coverage of the bombing was pro-Israeli.
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/2008/12/31/protesters-against-bbc-gaza-coverage-glue-themselves-to-entrance-barriers-91466-22579789/
Deluded morons!
Hopefully a smart bomb will take her out along with Bowen.
Martin | 01.01.09 – 11:33 am | #
Oh happy day.
The bomb wouldn’t have to be all that smart.
Just smarter than yer average Welsh leftist.
As soon as an Arab terrorist is hit by Israeli ordnance he or she turns into a harmless ‘civilian’.
It’s magic innit.
The IDF catches Hamas terrorists loading rockets into a pickup.. then ruins their day.
First vid at:
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2008/12/022434.php
Scene:
BBC training camp. Location: secret foothills somewhere near Mecca.
Lecturer:
“Today we’re especially honoured. Perfect gentleman Ed is on the line to give a telephone masterclass entitled Interviewing Techniques on Matters Concerning Jews.”
Ed:
“Many Thanks. First, the easy bit; always be quite clear about which side is right and which is wrong. Always select your friendly interviewees from the UN or someone from an aid organisation. Begin, gently, with some penetrating question such as:
1. What is life like in beleaguered war zone Gaza?
2. How does that make you feel?
3. Do you think it is fair that nearly all the casualties are innocent women and children?
4. Tell us about all the medical equipment you haven’t got.
5. Don’t mention the rockets. I DID THAT ONCE but I think I got away with it.
Hostile interviewees should have impenetrable accents. (Doesn’t matter what you ask as the answer will be unintelligible.) This is not always possible, in which case I ask:
1. Have you no sympathy with your victims?
Cut short the interview for either the weather forecast or the football.”
Lecturer:
“Thank you Ed. Any questions for Ed? Oh, the line has gone dead. You have all graduated with honours. You are ready to go off and influence people. Good Luck”
Greencoat: You forgot to mention the famous Muslim ‘Wedding party’ and ‘Baby milk factory’ so loved by the BBC.
Britain is preparing to import Islamic terror suspects –
“Our returning troops, whom some of these guys have been attempting to kill, will now have a chance to meet and greet them on civvie street. What a wonderful country this is.”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article5426064.ece
Anonymous:
Britain is preparing to import Islamic terror suspects
Just when you think our Ingrate Leader and his Kommisariat cannot get any more stupid, they never fail to live down to expectations.
Roll on the election asap. And let’s house the Islamo-Nazis in Hoxton and Islington amongst the Gucci socialist illiterati: the dimmest people on Earth who quite simply deserve to die now.
So when is al-beeb going to tell us that the Israelis phone the occupants of the Hamas dwelling they are intending to obliterate? This gives the terrorists (the T word) warning to clear out and has saved many lives. Hamas does this before they try to kill Israeli children? Sure, ask al-Bowen. In that famous, overused phrase, ‘international law’, Israel is always the violator. Fact is though they do practice the Rule of Distinction,phoning is just one, in their targeting. You can find this, Mr al-Bowen in Article 1 of the Genocide Convention. It’s all there for your twisting.
I see the BBC have now sent in the terrorists best friend ‘Lyse Ducet’ to Israel.
Hopefully a smart bomb will take her out along with Bowen.
Martin | 01.01.09 – 11:33 am | #
I disagree. I want them both alive and fit to stand trial for incitement to murder.
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@Jack Bauer: 01.01.09 12:39pm
And let’s house the Islamo-Nazis in Hoxton and Islington amongst the Gucci socialist illiterati: the dimmest people on Earth who quite simply deserve to die now.
Jack, you surely must know that in ten years (or maybe even less) some of these people will be around their dinner tables regaling the chatterati with their tales of oppression and freedom fighter spirit.
The BBC were highly excited at the thought of taking yet more Muslim terrorists here to Londonistan. I bet they won’t be so happy when the Muslims start prowling around Hampstead Heath beheading any gay barebackers they find.
I bet they won’t be so happy when the Muslims start prowling around Hampstead Heath beheading any gay barebackers they find.
Martin | 01.01.09 – 1:23 pm | #
Ha ha.
So gays “give head” and Muslims “take head.”
It must be so confusing for lefties, when both groups are prime PC protected; never to be subject to criticism, and to be defended at all costs.
I guess the neocomm Marxist-Leninists’ tiny heads will eventually explode due to their own internal contradictions, ending up on the ash heap of history. Or some such cliche.
Ron Prosor’s enlightening article in the Telegraph:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/4045000/Hamas-is-the-obstacle-to-Middle-East-peace.html
excerpt:
“As I write, Hizbollah flags flutter in the Kensington streets outside my Embassy. Agitators hail the Hamas leadership that created the crisis. In Gaza, protestors dissenting against Hamas face the death sentence. With the blessing of Iran and Hizbollah, Hamas has turned Gaza into a theocratic nightmare.
Al-Hayat last Wednesday reported Hamas’s new laws enforcing punishments of whipping for drinking, dismembering for theft, and executions for a host of ambiguous crimes. “Games of chance” are also to be punished with the whip. Ironically, Hamas continues to gamble with Palestinian lives.
Hamas is committed to Islamism at its bloodiest, and Israel is not its only target.”
But just look at some of the comments. More of those factually incorrect statements filled with hatred and stupidity.
Thanks BBC, you’re doing a fine job.
Al-Hayat last Wednesday reported Hamas’s new laws enforcing punishments of whipping for drinking, dismembering for theft, and executions for a host of ambiguous crimes.
Oh, and they’ve just approved crucifixion as one of the punishments!
That’s nailing some poor schlub to cross and letting them bleed to death, for all our Beeboid readers living in Islington!
Anat
In answer to your question, no the BBC never reply to me. They are arrogant & treat all criticism with disdain. By the way, the reference for the report is http://www.imra.org.il/story.php3?id=42061
But I keep sending e mails on the basis that even if one lowly BBC employee reads them, they may have some effect…..
By the way, a massive THANK YOU to David Vance for this site.
It is an oasis of sanity in a lunatic world & I realise that I am not alone.
All the best for 2009
Dutch TV had an interview with an Egyptian official who is blaming Hamas for the latest conflict to hit Gaza.
His opinion was that Hamas ignored the request of other ME countries to stop the rockets being fired, and left the Israelis with no choice.
And if you want to hear really poor BBC reporting, I would suggest that you listen to the BBC world Service for obvious pro-Hamas reporting.
I bet they won’t be so happy when the Muslims start prowling around Hampstead Heath beheading any gay barebackers they find.
Martin | 01.01.09 – 1:23 pm | #
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Are you gay Martin?, your constant and disturbing opinions about gays makes me wonder.
IMG — How strange, you are more concerned with musing over what you dream are Martin’s proclivities, than the well known official Islamic stand on homosexuality.
1. They don’t have it in their country or religion.
2. And if they do find anyone who slipped through the cracks, it’s hang ’em high!
Is Martin gay?
I’m no psychiatrist, but I think it more likely Martin was accosted by a paedophile when he was young, hence his obsessive hatred of homosexuals.
I too find his constant gay-bashing and colourful language disturbing and a detriment to the aims of this blog.
How many of those Palestinians killed were members of Hamas? How many were armed and actively involved in attacking Israel?
I don’t know. You don’t know. Unless I sneak into Gaza, avoiding explosions as I go, crawling through the rubble to find the bodies, and then what? How do I know if they are civilian or not?
How would you suggest the BBC find out?
And you are trying to argue that not specifiying this in their reports is bias? It would be funny if it wasn’t so tragic.
Looking at the online report you link to, what does the rest of the sentence say that you quote? The bit you conveniently left out?
‘Palestinian medical officials say 391 Palestinians have died in the Israeli air strikes; the UN says 25% of these were civilians.’
It’s very easy to write a spiteful load of rhetoric without actually supplying any reason or substantive argument. It’s how you operate.
Of course, when this is taken into account along with your own very clearly stated bias, it makes you look like a joke.
It’s very easy to write a spiteful load of rhetoric without actually supplying any reason or substantive argument. It’s how you operate.
No, that’s how the BBC operates, and that’s in spades when it comes to Jews.
In case you hadn’t noticed the BBC is a funded by a forced TV tax.
This blog is what is laughably known as free speech. Get used to it BBC shill.
It’s very easy to write a spiteful load of rhetoric without actually supplying any reason or substantive argument. It’s how you operate.
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This is a perfect definition of a Tonybee article!.
Tractorboy — you note the role reversal employed.
The BBC which is supposed to be a tax funded news organization offering an unbiased reportage is excused from making unsubstantiated claims based on one protagonist in a conflict.
In the meantime, an opinion blog is spitefully attacked with a load of rhetoric for expressing its free opinion and daring to point out the bleedin’ obvious about BBC reportage?
By the way — when I implied above that we have “free speech” in the UK, I was almost joking. We are just a few notches above Cuba at present.
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We are just a few notches above Cuba at present.
A situation the socialist tyranny supporters are working diligently to rectify in parliament and via the police and the courts.
You think not? Try to publish a factual account of the personal behavior of a BBC bigwig and see how far you get.
Have the BBC forgotten Hamas don’t you believe it after the Channel 4’s King of Iran’s Address to the Nation we have the BBC’s HAMAS PHONE-IN -unbelievable as it may sound.
The BBC World Service’s “World Have Your Say” will be hosting a Hamas representative live on air answering calls, e-mails and texts from listeners. The program will be broadcast today (Thursday) at 18.00 GMT for an hour. To participate, dial 020 7083 7272 from within the UK or 44 20 7083 7272 from outside the UK.
One wonders what the BBC would have done if the Second World War was happening now with the present state of telecommunications would we be having having a phone with Goebbels – the mind boggles.
It’s very easy to write a spiteful load of rhetoric without actually supplying any reason or substantive argument. It’s how you operate.Boba Fett | Homepage | 01.01.09 – 3:10 pm | #
All right, Boba Fett, I’ll give you reason.
At this very moment there is an item on BBC website, linked from the top of the front page. It claims that in Gaza ‘Food is beginning to become a major issue. Only two weeks ago the United Nations Relief Works Agency (UNRWA) suspended the distribution of food in Gaza because of shortages.’ This claim is repeated in different words three times. The source is one ‘Hatem Shurrab’ who is described as ‘an aid worker in Gaza with the British-based charity Islamic Relief Worldwide.’
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7802295.stm
The BBC does not report at all a contradicting statement released by the Israeli government: ‘Ninety three trucks, with approximately 2500 tons of humanitarian aid, medical supplies and medication were conveyed through “Kerem Shalom” cargo terminal. The World Food Program has informed Israel that they will not be resuming shipment of food commodities in to Gaza due to the fact that their
warehouses are at full capacity and will last for approximately two weeks.’
http://www.imra.org.il/story.php3?id=42061
Now both sources are equally partial. Since they cannot both be true, an honest journalist would check the facts behind them before reporting this way or the other. For instance, enquire with the World Food Progamme. But the BBC does nothing of the sort. It simply gives credence to the Islamic side and ignores the Israeli side.
You call this journalism? I call it being the mouthpiece for the propaganda of one side without doing any real journalistic work.
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I’m afraid that this obscene moral equivalence between the lawful and precise defensive moves of the State of Israel and the deliberate offensive targeting of non-combatants by Hamas is pretty much evenly spread across the mainstream media.
This is our political class closing ranks against their old enemies: morality and reality.
This is,perforce, pro-Israel….
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/4045000/Hamas-is-the-obstacle-to-Middle-East-peace.html
but also this the day before, and this time it’s personal…
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/4031326/Israel-has-left-the-peace-process-in-ruins.html
and then…
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-leaders-lie-civilians-die-and-lessons-of-history-are-ignored-1215045.html
…and at last the Beeb..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7805558.stm
God help us, they’re all at it.
Bob Fett, how does the UN know how many civilians? Have its officials been ‘crawling through the rubble’?
how does the UN know how many civilians? Have its officials been ‘crawling through the rubble’?
Battersea | 01.01.09 – 4:27 pm | #
Battersea, the trick is simple. The UN people on site on UNRWA people. All UN statements on the situation in Gaza come from them.
An objective UN source? Not by UNRWA’s own website, that proudly informs us that:
‘UNRWA employs some 24,324 staff, of whom more than 99 per cent are locally-recruited Palestinians’
http://www.un.org/unrwa/organization/staff.html
In other words, this is an interested side masquerading as impartial international source.
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Boba Fett | Homepage | 01.01.09 – 3:10 pm
How many of those Palestinians killed were members of Hamas? How many were armed and actively involved in attacking Israel?
I don’t know! One minute Hamas is a legitimate democratically elected body that states that all Israelis are legitimate targets, next minute all those uniformed corpses are innocent “Palestinian” civillians who only want peace.
I don’t know. You don’t know. Unless I sneak into Gaza, avoiding explosions as I go, crawling through the rubble to find the bodies, and then what? How do I know if they are civilian or not?
Agreed. Both you, and your venerated idols at the BBC seem to know very little indeed. Despite the fact that they are in constant touch with Hamas, and employ their sympathisers and supporters as producers stringers and reporters. I listened to gentleman Ed Stourton this morning.
How would you suggest the BBC find out?
Learn and get to know something about the subject they’re reporting about?
And you are trying to argue that not specifiying this in their reports is bias? It would be funny if it wasn’t so tragic.
Bias by omission is bias; not funny, and indeed tragic.
Looking at the online report you link to,
Should we asume you ‘re talking about the IMRA link? Oh no, thought not.
what does the rest of the sentence say that you quote? The bit you conveniently left out? ‘Palestinian medical officials say 391 Palestinians have died in the Israeli air strikes; the UN says 25% of these were civilians.’
True, they did say that. Then they said, for ‘balance:’ “Four Israelis have been killed by rockets…”
It’s very easy to write a spiteful load of rhetoric without actually supplying any reason or substantive argument. It’s how you operate.
Spiteful load of rhetoric? There are reasons and substantive arguments galore, ones the BBC don’t bother to recount. It’s how they operate.
Of course, when this is taken into account along with your own very clearly stated bias,
Bias towards western values. How intolerant!
it makes you look like a joke.
Understood and reciprocated.
Futher to your reply to the star wars fan ref food aid to Gaza.
I know for a fact that there have been many food/aid shipments since the the Jets wnt in.
Today (Yes today)another 70 trucks of aid went in.
http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Israel-launches-airstrikes-Gaza/ss/events/wl/122708gazastrike/im:/090101/photos_ts_wl_afp/26dbf93822d396891760336ae1bfe9f4/#photoViewer=/090101/ids_photos_wl/r2431620370.jpg
The above is a link to a picture from AP of Aid waiting to go in. Yet the bBC keeps on pushing this story that people are staving in Gaza.
Really?
Anybody seen any pictures of skinny kids from Gaza? FFS all are plump as for the woman silly me the bBC told me that is because theey are eating the wrong things.
The bbC its love for Hamas and half the story.
Hamas leader killed in air strike
A senior Hamas leader has been killed by an Israeli air strike on his home in the Gaza Strip, Hamas officials say. Nizar Rayyan, the most senior Hamas figure to be killed since 2004, had urged suicide attacks against Israel.
Hamas considered Mr Rayyan to be a political leader, but he often wore a military uniform and was close to the group’s armed wing. Until now, political leaders have not been killed. The BBC’s Mike Sergeant, in Jerusalem, says this may further strengthen the determination of Hamas to resist the Israeli air assault.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7807124.stm
So the black armband wearing sycophants at the bBC report on the untimely death of one of their heroes. In fact bBC rep Mike Sergeant states that all this will do is embolden Hamas even more.
Here are a few facts about Nizar Rayyan the bBC haven’t bothered to inform the British Public about;
He was one of the planners behind a terrorist attack on the port of Ashdod in 2004 that killed 10 Israelis
In 2002 sent one of his sons on a suicide bombing mission to the Gaza settlement of Alei Sinai
A lecturer on Islamic shariah law at the Islamic University in Gaza
A leading figure in the Hamas Ezz el-Deen al- Qassam Brigades
Which kind of explains this photo of him from 2007
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/nm/20090101/2009_01_01t090249_450x311_us_palestinians_israel.jpg?x=400&y=276&q=85&sig=7SLY0ROrOsob0peB5NTPQw–
The bbC its love for Hamas and half the story.
Biodegradable | 01.01.09 – 3:09 pm
Re: Is Martin Gay etc.
I always picture Martin as Jack Hawkins, smokin’ a pipe; in black and white with a gravelly voice and a neckerchief.
Adds drama yet takes the edge off.
And he’s not the only one I picture.
Anyone else do that? Hope it’s not just me.
Hugh Fitzgerald asks:
“What constitutes the ‘U.N.’ in Gaza?”
[Extract]:
“But the main point that needs to be made is this: it is that the word ‘United Nations’ here deeply misleads. In Gaza, the United Nations is entirely an Arab affair. There may be, for the purposes of plausibility, merely a Western collaborator with the Arab cause, at the very top. But the staffs of UNRWA, in Gaza as elsewhere, and the U.N. personnel in Gaza, as everywhere else having to do with the ‘Palestinian’ Arabs, is from top to bottom Arab. It is not the ‘United Nations’ that is putting out this figure about ‘civilian’ casualties. It is Arabs working for the local and immediate Arab cause — that is, the never-to-be-ended Jihad against the Infidel nation-state of Israel.” (Hugh Fitzgerald).
http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/18742
I always picture Martin as Jack Hawkins, smokin’ a pipe; in black and white with a gravelly voice and a neckerchief.
And an eyepatch? Sometimes covering the left eye, sometimes the right.
HAMAS Missiles That Hit My Cousins’ School;
Earlier today, I relayed a photo and e-mail from my cousin, Arnie Schlissel, who lives in Be’er Sheva, Israel. He sent photos of the Be’er Sheva school where his wife, Karen, teaches, and which was hit by a HAMAS rocket. Fortunately, because of the rockets, much of Israel is in a sort of emergency, and the school was closed to avoid the harm to the children and other civilians that these HAMAS rockets are meant to cause.
MORE..
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/12/chi-coms_made_h.html
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No Sue, I’ll admit to picturing people too. Martin strikes me as some sort of tattooed darts player with 80’s gel in his hair, the blue one of course.
There seems to be no attempt by the BBC or the MSM to accurately describe the situation Israel is really in .
As I see it Israel faces implacable enemies on 3 fronts- Gaza, Lebanon( Hizbollah) and Syria. In addition if Egypt is destabalised as Iran wishes a fourth front appears. The West bank , although quiet, is another potential battlezone.
Should Israel wait until it is attacked on 2 or 3 fronts simultaneously? Or should, as it has done, launch an unexpected pre-emptive attack on one front and thus maybe pre- empt a co-ordinated assault which would stretch the Israeli forces and could lead to disaster.
Perhaps the very success of the Israeli assault is what is driving the apologists to such rage and bile.
Time will tell.
In the minds of the BBC, Israel should sit quietly and await its fate. When the time comes, the Israelis may fight bravely and be defeated but to attack first is just not on. When Israel is destroyed the BC may even cry a few crocodile tears before returning to venerating whichever murderous Islamist is their current poster boy.
The BBC hates Israel, “nuff said”
I’m curious. Was there ever a war where one party encouraged or even allowed the supply of food and medicine to the ‘civilians’ on the other side?
On the World Service’s WHYS just now – first question to the Hamas spokesman comes from Bilal in Gaza accusing Hamas of being puppets of Iran, hiding in tunnels while making the people of Gaza targets. Awesome. Jeremy Bowen, are you listening?
Jack Bauer | Homepage | 01.01.09 – 5:38 pm |
And an eyepatch? Sometimes covering the left eye, sometimes the right.
Are you sure it’s not blinkers and a satsuma?
Back on topic : I notice that when the BBC talks about Israeli casualities (when they ever so rarely mention them) we are treated to shots of sodiers and tanks. When they mention Pally injuries it’s always, always women and little kids.
Those damn Joooos. I bet they attach homing beacons to their bombs just to seek out the little mites!
The bBC its reporting from Iran and half the story
Iranian raid on Ebadi condemned
A new raid by the Iranian authorities on an office of the Nobel Peace Prize winner and lawyer, Shirin Ebadi, has been widely condemned….. Earlier this month the Iranian authorities closed the Tehran office of the Human Rights Defenders Centre headed by Ms Ebadi, saying it had operated for eight years without permission.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7806195.stm
and what they just happened to leave out of that story;
Iran Nobel laureate accused of Israeli bias: activist
TEHRAN (Reuters) – Some 150 protesters stood outside the home and office of Iranian Nobel Peace Prize laureate Shirin Ebadi on Thursday accusing her of sympathy for Israel, the Islamic state’s foe, a member of her human rights group said. Abdulreza Tajik, of the Human Rights Defenders Centre led by Ebadi, said he believed they were student members of the Basij religious militia. The crowd tore down a sign of Ebadi’s law practice and trampled on it, he told Reuters.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090101/wl_nm/us_iran_ebadi_israel
The bBC its reporting from Iran and half the story
I’m curious. Was there ever a war where one party encouraged or even allowed the supply of food and medicine to the ‘civilians’ on the other side?
deegee | 01.01.09 – 6:40 pm
or be accused of inflicting “collective punishment” on the people of Gaza, as if Hamas was like Alky Aida – merely a law enforcement problem & distinct from the people – rather than a government for whom the deluded Pallys had voted.
God. The BBC had reports from Lyse Doucet AND Bowen. Can it get any worse?
Martin | 01.01.09 – 8:03 pm | #
Yup, it can — as I type, the dreaded Orla is wafting in on her broomstick.
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