The BBC is hyping up it’s refusal to air the ad from the DEC appealing for cash for Hamastan, thus suggesting it is without bias. Mark Thompson was on to say that he believed showing this appeal could be taken as favouring one side over another. Quite right. Sky has also refused to show the DEC sppeal so BBC virtue in this regard is not unique! So what do we make of the BBC approach here? Superficially I welcome it but of course having endured three weeks of pro-Hamas propaganda dressed up as news reporting, I rather worry that what the BBC is actually doing here is a little bit of sophisticated triangulating, giving itself cover so that any future criticism of its coverage of matters in the Middle East is invalidated because of this move. Your view?
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Keep ’em coming Bilge!
come on bile al, we want more Jew jokes!! I’ve got a whole book of hate jokes to fill.. Rack your brains — oh that might be a bit of a problem.
Anyway what about the question I asked earlier, 30 years and all that?
I gotta go, was meant to sign off ages ago, but this is too much fun.
You on tomorrow, Bilal? I Look forward to reading more profundities from you. Catch ya later 😉
Billy Al
Seriously though, a mate of mine is having a Bar Mitzvah for his son soon and was looking at getting this really expensive comedian to do a turn.
I just thought you might like a run out yourself, tell a few jokes, blow yourself up, the usual thing —you know, I think you’d be a natural!
Anyway give it a bit of thought.
You cannot have a basic “tenant” of belief, you know. Maybe you meant “tenet”.
He might pay rent?
Rent a tenet = a tenant of belief. Oh, okay then. Fair enough!
—Bilal quote—
and I sincerely hope I get the opportunity to kill you all and/or your ilk slowly & painfully. Night.
—quote end—
May Alah be praised for volunteers like you!
I can provide the detonator. But what is this about ‘slow and painfully’? Have you invented a new type of bomb that goes off slowly? Maybe you should test it out secretly on yourself in a sort of trial run before the real thing?
Q. What do you call a muslim who is getting ready for his 72 virgins and finds there was a mistake in the original translation and all you get is 72 pigs?
A. Disappointed
Nearly Oxfordian has had good experiences in the NHS, therefore it follows that all NHS experiences that everyone else has must also be equally positive. He therefore patrols the internet and shouts at anyone who questions the competence of the NHS. You can imagine how upset he was when I said the incompetent NHS kills more people than die in road accidents.
When the BBC want to make a programme about the socialist NHS, he would certainly be the type of ‘typical patient’ they are looking for.
Either that or he is an NHS manager.
Or, he relies on the BBC for his source of information about how competent the socialist NHS is
——Two quotes follow——–
Nearly Oxfordian:
Another ignorant lunatic insulting the NHS.
Nearly Oxfordian | 27.01.09 – 7:25 pm | #
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Cassandra:
Nearly Oxfordian,
How about cutting out the childish insults they only make you look like an utter c**t.
Cassandra | 27.01.09 – 7:27 pm | #
You cannot have a basic “tenant” of belief, you know.
Millie Tant | 27.01.09 – 11:12 pm | #
Rentboy? 😆
To clarify my comment about ‘the Islamic prophet, Mohammed’ I was expressing the wish that the BBC would use that phrase rather than referring to ‘the prophet Mohammed’, since only Muslims regard him as the real mccoy.
By the way, this is for Bilal, if he ever comes back this way. Given those ahadith about him liking to suck the tongues of boys, shouldn’t we refer to him as ‘the poppet Mohammed’?
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/024363.php
Like Nearly Oxfordian, I too think the NHS is a wonderfull organisation, and I too will scream crap! lunatic! at anyone who disagrees. Sometimes I scream ‘libelous crap!’ if I am really cross.
When you drive up to Manchester Royal Infirmary Accident & Emergency at night, you will have difficulty parking, yet there is a large empty NHS car park with the barrier down. No doubt there is a perfectly good administrative reason, as our NHS managers are the envy of the world.
When you are ill and you want to see your doctor and the resopnse is ‘there is a waiting list of over a week’ don’t get stroppy or ungrateful to the state, it is a free service you know, after all.
Anyway, the NHS stastistics prove that it is improving all the time.
Just watch the BBC, they love the NHS too.
This WILL be my last post.
Millie Tant, rent a tenet the lodger being the Neo-Cons.
Wally, unless you provide an authentic reference; you can go suck a dick as your culture encourages you to do. Why don’t you provide the images of your mother having a set of balls on her chin? Incidentally the punishment for homosexuality in Islaam is death.
Osama bum Laden, your statement doesn’t make sense. How can you have an “original translation”? If it’s a translation, then it’s not the original, is it? Backfired on you there, didn’t it you smelly cunt. Also based on your alias I’m assuming you are a homosexual that fancies Osama bin Laden.
Anyway, I’ve had enough of wasting time on here with you inferior Zionist-bastard no-lives who have nothing better to do than camp on a blog based at trashing the same BBC whose decision not to air the DEC appeal you ironically support (another proof of hypocrisy). Regardless, you are all hypocrites anyway in accusing the BBC of bias; look at you and your website. Now, after reading my comment you can all fuck off back to your aimless lives bitching about the BBC and trying to (unsuccessfully) justify the killing of innocent children by bombing homes and schools.
Noooo, please don’t make that your (Nth) leaving post, Bilal!
Would you consider some kind of “Dear Bilal” agony aunt spot? Though sexual problems appear be your forte, I’m sure you have plenty of fire and brimstone sermons on other topics for us.
Got to go – plane to catch. Don’t go getting any funny ideas, you naughty guy!
Billy does seem to have a preoccupation with sex and sexuality.
An old billy goat… put out to grass and dreaming of nanny goats and what might have been…awwwwww.
Just popped in to see what’s happening on the B-BBC blog and came across the above “dialogue.”
What on earth is going on?
Bilally
I repeat;
The real satisfaction is that in thirty years you will still be a gobby cowardly little prick shouting off about Israel, and it will still be there. How many gullible idiots will you send off to die whilst you shout off from the comfort of your Mosque?
The sad fact is that you are too stupid to understand the truth and are an insult to your own religion.
Now sod off into obscurity you nobody
‘Times’
Daniel Finkelstein:
[Extract]
“To me, a battle between the BBC and Oxfam over impartial coverage of the Middle East is a little like the Iran-Iraq War. As Henry Kissinger put it, can’t they both lose? And on the question itself I go back and forward. Yes, people are suffering and it is right to help them. Full stop. You can donate without taking a view on whose fault it was. On the other hand, for the charities involved there is a strong political motivation and an anti-Israel agenda. This appeal is not just humanitarian, it is political.”
‘Forget the Gaza fuss. Let them buy airtime.’
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/daniel_finkelstein/article5600810.ece
Bilal | 28.01.09 – 9:55 am | #
Please don’t go!
Bilal – I know you have not gone really and you are reading this message. I know it is agonising for you as you are dying to reply just one more time even though you say you have gone…to resist or give in – that is your dialema.
—quote from Bilal—-
who have nothing better to do than camp on a blog based at trashing the same BBC whose
—quote end —
Add up all the time you must have spent reading everyone’s comments and replying in detail, and just look at the pages of typing you have produced. – So as for spending the most time camping on this blog – you are the winner!
“Come back! Come back!” she cried in grief…”Oh, Billy, come back, old Billy Goat Gruff”. /weeping, keening, rending of garments and gnashing of teeth
[END of ACT 1 Scene 2]
–quote–
Bilal:
This WILL be my last post.
Bilal | 28.01.09 – 9:55 am
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Yes Bilal, we have not been made to feel welcome here. We will NEVER return. EVER!
And this WILL be MY last post also. May I kiss a pig if I am lying and I return. You will never see me again for 1000 years!
(and I mean a female pig, as I am not gay)
This post really is my last. I will certainly never return. And that is final. Full stop.
No, seriously, this post really is the very last final one – and I really mean it this time.
Nearly Oxfordian has had good experiences in the NHS, therefore it follows that all NHS experiences that everyone else has must also be equally positive
Yes, the sort of mendacious and demagogic ‘argument’ I expected from you.
I did not claim that ALL NHS experiences are good. It’s the reverse: it’s your side who claim that because you’ve had bad experiences, it follows that ALL NHS experiences are bad.
He therefore patrols the internet and shouts at anyone who questions the competence of the NHS
Take your pills: you are raving. I don’t patrol anything. I come to this site, same as you do.
Either that or he is an NHS manager.
You are pathetic.
Or, he relies on the BBC for his source of information about how competent the socialist NHS is
You never did learn to read, did you? I stated clearly that I have had several surgeries this year.
And you still haven’t a clue what the word ‘socialist’ means.
What an ignoramus.
Bilal, you are a sicko Nazi shit.
David: please ban this psychopathic Nazi with his antisemitic comments.
.
How about cutting out the childish insults they only make you look like an utter c**t.
Looked in the mirror recently, dumbo?
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I don’t think the Nearly Oxfordian person is genuine. I think he is someone trying to misrepresent BBC sceptics as nasty people and lower the tone of the debates. Most of the time he just shouts.
Someone needs telling off | 28.01.09 – 1:52 pm | #
I have to agree there I something disconcerting going on at the moment.
To adapt a post I made recently on another thread, scoping around the most recent threads, there seems to be a trend to ‘what people say or omit (like a debatable point) isn’t important; it’s who they are, which ‘tribal group’ they may be part of and, for a few purists, how slick their sentence structure, grammar and/or spelling is’. Plus, more value the more flaming excessive you are.
And, as one ‘burned’ by a fellow poster who I have to now respected, there is an odd tolerance, and defence of those who tend to have a BBBC-contrary view so long as they are ‘reasonable’ a few times. Sure it’s good to have an ‘opposition’, but not to the point of ring-fencing them.
I feel simply saying ‘this is silly’ or ‘there is no bias’ hardly constitute worthwhile posts, and neither does getting in the gutter and feigning hurt when the mud flies. Especially if kicking off the thread with a snipe at the site owner with no substantive rebuttal.
It is, of course, effectively divisive. Hmnn.
Forgive me if that was not articulated to the satisfaction of some in a ripe, one-line rant, which they can then trade with the author and kill a few hours of their day.
sorry I don’t understand a word of that –please could you repeat the message more coherently?
Andy | 27.01.09 – 10:49 pm |
The only thing is, I think you’ll find the vast majority of people here are Christians or agnostics. Back to the drawing board fella.
Jews can be agnostic, too. Atheists even. One can argue forever whether or not being a Jew is an ethnicity, a religion, or a combination, but they’ll still end up in the gas chambers either way.
Peter | Homepage | 28.01.09 – 2:29 pm |
I feel simply saying ‘this is silly’ or ‘there is no bias’ hardly constitute worthwhile posts, and neither does getting in the gutter and feigning hurt when the mud flies. Especially if kicking off the thread with a snipe at the site owner with no substantive rebuttal.
It is, of course, effectively divisive. Hmnn.
Well said.
One can argue forever whether or not being a Jew is an ethnicity, a religion
Once ‘can’ argue about angels on a pinhead, sure, and about which end of the egg one should crack. But as someone who is ethnically Jewish and an atheist, I assure you that there isn’t anything to argue about.
As I said elsewhere, those who find it difficult to understand how ‘Jewish’ can be an ethnicity AND also a religion, are suffering from an analytical deficiency (I do NOT mean you!).
I don’t think the Nearly Oxfordian person is genuine
Don’t attribute your own very serious deficiencies to others. Go and see a specialist instead – you need it.
Nearly Oxfordian
who are you arguing with old friend?
frankos | 28.01.09 – 4:26 pm
Himself.
It had to happen in the end.
frankos | 28.01.09 – 2:53 pm | #
David, a poster here who I respect a lot, seemed(s) to have had no problem, I think understood my concerns, and was nice enough to say so. Thank you.
I would write more, but fear it would rather prove all the points I was trying (albeit poorly to some… my apologies) to make.
Best, in this instance, for me to retire from the fray to avoid fanning any flames, as it were.
Just had a look at this thread and am depressed it the way it was taken OT and then degenerated into an insult fest. This is not why I write.
This site must be top of a list for 12 year olds to troll somewhere. And they are spectacularly obvious (Kaz-M, Liblab etc), but people are still getting caught up in it.
Wise up guys!
Wise up guys!
Sarah Jane | 28.01.09 – 6:37 pm |
I refer yo to my tuppence worth here.
http://www.haloscan.com/comments/patrickcrozier/8518482264228528376/#445636
I did try to warn everyone. Thankfully a couple of posters heeded.
Oh and his full name is Mohammed Bilal Patel.
David Vance 5:49
Well said !
I have just been re-reading some of the posts here and on other threads and I find some of the language and the childish abuse really depressing.
I thought that I left that behind when I left Primary School.
But, I really don’t know the answer, and believe in the freedom to post, so I just scroll down and read some of the great posts and links on this website.
My goodness, come back “Bill Buchanan” , all is forgiven !!
Sarah Jane 6:37
Well said !!
Sorry, David, for going off topic and making you feel depressed. For me, sometimes it is fun to have a bit of light relief. I AM serious about BBC bias and frequently despair that anything can or will be done about it – I mean anything substantial or fundamental, as opposed to gestures or token actions.
I would second Millie Tant.
Frankos:
with the prat who claimed I wasn’t a ‘genuine person’.
It had to happen in the end.
Shrieks a prat with not even a screen name: too dumb to invent one?
So Channel 4 and ITV have shown the appeal. And the sky hasn’t fallen, nor have they unleashed a tide of anti-Israeli hatred.
Just show it BBC.
Here’s a thought, you can support Israel, not like Hamas, think terrorism is wrong, that the PA is corrupt, that rich Arab states should be giving money, that Hamas started the fighting, that hatred of the Jews is being whipped up amongst Arabs, that the news is anti-Israel etc. You can believe all that, and still think the appeal should be broadcast. You don’t even have to want to give to the appeal.
John | 28.01.09 – 9:35 pm | #
Stuff them.
Mille Tant,
Thanks for that. I’m all for light relief as well and we should not be too precious but it embarrasses me when sensible b-bbc posters get embroiled with trolls and also row with each other. At the risk of sounding like a muesli-eating leftie, why can’t you all get on!! Now, let’s hold hands, light a candle and Kumbaya…seriously , please all remember you get more in life with honey than vinegar.
“Several high profile actors including Peter Mullan and Samantha Morton have said they will never work for the BBC again, unless it agrees to screen the appeal.” – today’s Telegraph.
It’s a pity Wossy doesn’t feel strongly on the subject.