In the BBC world-view, what could be more natural than bigging up Libyan thug Col Qaddafi – new chairman of the African Union as well as getting the wretched Mark Malloch Brown on to agree that co-operation with Mugabe “is worth a go.” It always amazes me how the BBC drones on and on about the problems that afflict Africa whilst appearing seemingly disinterested in the ambitions and consequencwa of indulging terrorist thugs like Qaddafi and Mugabe.
DARKNESS IN THE DARK CONTINENT.
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Mugabe = McFatty One eye. Except McFatty One Eye has made a bigger mess of our economy.
Co-operation with Mugabe involves promising to make it quick.
It is called “Appeasement”. It is what lefties do ! But, it never works.
Isn’t it about time this country stopped interfering in Africa. Most African countries wanted independence from European rule and that’s what they have got. What African governments do is nothing to do with Britain. Western democracy has not proved, in general, to provide stable efficient government. By all means report what goes on there but stop telling them what to do. Apparently China gets on much better in Africa because they don’t preach to African leaders.
Dagobert.
Your sentiments are correct, but also misguided, mainly because of BBC dis information, or simply no honest information whatsoever.
Africa has not been independent of The British Establishment since we first set foot on the continent.
There are far more ways to skin a cat, then ripping its fur off in public.
The BIG MONEY, virtually owns CHINA, as it did The USSR since the revolution and still does Russia today.
The BIG MONEY as in the British/world corporate banking and industrial system set up modern day China as the future manufacturer of the planet. This was planned as far back as the 1930’s. Official documents written in 1933 by the British establishments RIIA confirm this to be the case.
Mugabe may or indeed may not know this FACT, but it is an obvious FACT of life all the same. I suspect he very much does know this fact, which is why he can so publicly stick two fingers up at this countries total and completely bullshit nonsense. In the full and safe knowledge that he is well and truly in our establishments pocket, and therefore the British government will do absolutely nothing to shut him up. Mugabe’s protestations are for domestic consumption ONLY.
Who do you think set up and financed all those mega enormous factories out there in China, FATHER CHRISTMAS?
Who do you think set up Mugabe?
Who has been ripping off Zimbabwe’s natural resources, such as Gold and Platinum, using mining investment and technologies only the ‘west’ could possibly finance and run?
Who has been doing so, while providing the despotic criminal with the hard currency to purchase guns and other technologies to murder and repress his own people with?
Why do you think Chinese ministers still bother to come to Britain these days, if this country really was as unimportant as our BBC would like us to think it is?
To answer the above questions, one needs to know far more about how the world does indeed work, and has long since been working. Then an education based on BBC and main stream media LIES.
It also greatly helps if you truly do understand that you have been viciously and repeatedly lied to all of your life, by predominately the BBC.
The Foreign Office runs British Foreign policy in conspiracy with the MOD. The Foreign Office may well have an elected Minister supposedly heading it, but these things are ALL only ever PUPPETS of the British establishment.
The British establishment is effectively a BANKING CORPORATION, with money making interests all over the entire planet.
This used to be called the Company or Firm to those in the know. To the ignorant it was known as The British Empire.
Which was then and still is now the Empire for which the sun has never set. The only reason why we think it did , is because our BBC and our establishment run educational institutions told us it had. But as we all now know the BBC and our educational institutions tells bullshit lies, all of the time.
In conclusion.
We do not stop Mugabe doing what Mugabe is doing, because our establishment will for now at least, not permit our selected government to do anything of the sort. This will continue to be the case, as long as Mugabe continues to let the Rothschild’s mining interests dig up the countries gold free from interference. Whats even worse then that, MUGABE very likely knows this.
In short.
We are still the problem, and we have absolutely no intention of being any form of solution.
Somehow I can’t see the BBC ever reporting this in the manner that the Telegraph have.
Robert Mugabe’s wife Grace seizes Zimbabwe farm
President Robert Mugabe’s wife Grace has seized a farm from a high court judge, according to legal and agricultural sources.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/zimbabwe/4447091/Robert-Mugabes-wife-Grace-seizes-Zimbabwe-farm.html
Sorry, but isn’t that an unfortunate use of the word ‘disinterested’?
Surely, disinterested is exactly what the BBC should be, but isn’t.
Atlas ref Zimbabwe
Mugabe nationalised all the miming companies in the early 80s (post independence in 1980) and the money was frittered away by ineffectual govt policies and corruption.
Post privatisation the mining companies were subject to market forces and inbuilt ineffeciencies that closed a lot of the mining interests.
Zimbabwe has certainly not generally been a quick buck arena for private business (unlike Bolivian silver and RSA gold)
Zimbabwes real asset was its tobacco and wheat industries, and well we all know their sad fate.
frankos
Nationalization is a complete illusion caused by mainly too much BBC TV. As was the supposed nationalization of The Bank of England.
A corporate monopoly is still a monopoly whether it is said to be owned by a government or not.
Money is lent to governments at interest more then it is to small or medium independent business. This by such an enormously large figure no one has yet to my knowledge been able to calculate quite HOW much.
When this situation happens especially when we have a world monopoly banking system, we will and therefore do have effective Corporate COMMUNISM, what ever it says on the tin.
Please understand ALL is smoke and mirrors when it comes to the BIG MONEY.
These people have an interest in keeping the worlds populations in the DARK. A very very big interest. They keep their wealth and power under wraps, usually in other peoples names. They also keep their wealth and power under the name of national governments, as I have already explained.
Do you really believe any African Nation could really run a bath properly never mind a mining industry?
Come to think about it, do you really think a Labour or any British selected government could run The Bank of England?
Please try to apply common sense to your understanding of the world. Not , say for example what The Economist magazine has lied to you about. BTW do you know who owns The Economist?
Yes you guessed it The Rothschild’s.
However having said all that it is very possible that mining in Zimbabwe has been allowed to decline in the short term, for the same reason British and European manufacturing has been allowed to. Which is to cause inflation and the rapid devaluation of western currencies against the only real money there is, which is GOLD.
Remember what happened to the GOLD PRICE between 1990-2004. The price virtually collapsed. It cost, even in Zimbabwe, more to mine then Gold was worth on the market. Not so now, that is for sure.
BTW
Guess who sets and very largely controls the Gold and Diamond price?
You guessed it The Rothschild’s.
Markets are controlled by the BIG Money, and they always have been. The British people have had no interest in understanding this while the going is good and reasonably comfortable.
However now the globalist s..t will now hit its inevitable fan.
Democracy is now surplus to the establishments requirements. The ONLY reason why we do not collectively know this is because the people still believe in the BBC even if they often say they do not.
Such is the cleverness of the BBC at the very very top. Which should never be underestimated in any circumstances.
I do not profess to know everything in every detail. I very much doubt anyone including the establishment do either. It is a very big and highly complex world.
However the fact that ‘things’ are far more easily manipulated for profit and more long term esoteric and highly political reasons, is a well know historical well documented fact of life.
The govt in Zimbabwe owned the mines and the debt incurred was mainly written off.
western govts make far more money out of South America than they do out of Africa because the ext infra structure and the ability of mining companies to export product without hinderance..
The chaotic road systems and insecurity in parts of Africa make it a very unsuitable investment
Frankos
One other thing.
You will note that I dis say with regards to Mugabe that ” for now at least”. This does not mean that in the future the British establishment will not in the future make a move on Mugabe.
Have you ever wondered why it is that the BBC constantly reinforces the lie that Zimbabwe’s currency is virtually worthless?????
Because any Zimbabwean will tell you that the currency in Zimbabwe is actually the US $. Where do you think all those green backs come from, if the country does not actually produce anything of any value, OUTER SPACE?
Atlas:
Hmm methinks that perhaps thou doth listen to alex jones.
You have no proof that the ‘rothschilds’ rule the world, you are spewing out platitudes as facts, for instance, that the European manufacturing sector has been deliberatley run down, when it in fact the ineffective euro politics themselves that have ruined everything.
‘rothschilds’ ha ha nwo etc?
Do you picket ground zero on your holidays?
Are you convinced building 7 was an inside job?
Do you beleive that vaccines are in fact delivery systems for virii?
Gulf of Tonkin ?
‘mainstream news’
Atlas:
Oy vey! Didn’t realise we were that powerful!
BBC has a sneaking regard for Mugabe because he was and still is an opponent of “British Colonialism”, whatever that is or was. Gives them a common enemy, hence a possible friendship. And I love the “talking is worth a go”. It all sounds so reasonable, except it’s not a conversation unless the other party is listening.
Bishop Muzurewa initially won the first elections for all races in S.Rhodesia, and was acceptable to blacks and whites. But Lord Carrington of the Conservatives thought the blacks had made the ‘wrong’ choice, so he declared the elections null and void, and had a new set so that Carrington could get in the candidate he wanted. Shame on him and the Conservatives.
Unfortunately, once the ‘good kicking of the old regime’ was initiated by Carrington and the Conservatives, nothing could stop it.
You cannot go up to a gang of thugs and say, ‘time to stop, now, gentlemen, your job is done’
Atlas shrugged
Last time I looked, the Economist is part of the Pearson group. NOT owned by the Rothschilds.
The Economist is owned 50% by the Financial Times (a sub division of Pearson PLC) and 50% by private shareholders including members of the Rothschild Family.
JohnA | 04.02.09 – 10:33 am
Lynn Forester de Rothschild was appointed as a non-executive director of the Economist in October 2002. She is chief executive of EL Rothschild and wife of Sir Evelyn de Rothschild.
http://www.economicshelp.org/2008/07/review-of-economist-magazine.html
The “A” special shares are held by individual shareholders including the Cadbury, Rothschild, Schroder and other family interests as well as a number of staff and former staff shareholders.
The “B” special shares are all held by The Financial Times Limited which holds 50% of the total share capital of the company excluding the trust shares.
http://www.economistgroup.com/results_and_governance/ownership.html
Look guys, the only matter of interest in the Rothschilds is Baron Philippe Rothschild, and his cracking premier cru, Château Mouton Rothschild.
Atlas Shrugged,
De Beers controls diamond prices, not the Jews. Get your monopolies straight before you spin your web. The Jews didn’t manipulate Mugabe or any such nonsense, FFS. Where’s your evidence? How are the Rothschilds benefiting from billionaire African kleptocrats enriching themselves and screwing over their own people? You’ll have to explain just how that works before we can buy into such a theory.
‘Mugabe = McFatty One eye. Except McFatty One Eye has made a bigger mess of our economy.
martin | 03.02.09 – 5:44 pm’
OK its amusing hyperbole but it is so far from the truth that it is only that.
Brown is definitely not my favourite guy, but to suggest he is worse than Mugabe and we are in worse shape than Zimbabwe is monstrous and if you knew more about the state of Zimbabwe you would see it is downright offensive.
I assume even you know this and you are not being serious.
Andrew 4:10
I would be happy to test your statement if you would buy me a bottle.
David Preiser (USA) | 04.02.09 – 4:47 pm
Harry Oppenheimer was the chairman of Anglo American Corporation for a quarter of a century and chairman of De Beers Consolidated Mines for 27 years until he retired from those positions in 1982 and 1984 respectively. His son Nicky Oppenheimer became Deputy Chairman of Anglo in 1983 and Chairman of De Beers in 1998.
The son of Sir Ernest Oppenheimer, Harry was born to an assimilated Jewish family… When he married his wife Bridget, he chose to enter the Anglican Church, but remained a supporter of Jewish causes.
He was also extremely generous to the official philanthropies of the State of Israel. He personally directed that Israel receive the necessary diamond raw products from De Beers in order to establish itself as one of the world’s diamond polishing and exporting countries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Oppenheimer
factchecker | 04.02.09 – 10:42 pm |
Oh, please. De Beers has controlled the price of diamonds practically since Cecil Rhodes, son of an Anglican vicar, co-founded it in the 19th Century. The tribal blood of the current chair is a drop in the bucket.
If you want to get tribal for real, though, are you aware of the Cohen distinction, the Priest caste? The Rothschilds are Cohenim. Oppenheimer wasn’t, nor was he a Levite, as those traits are passed paternally and not maternally (apparently the actual genetic marker can be passed via either the X or Y chromosome, but the official religious rule is paternal). If we’re going to buy into the wacky tribal theory, historically the Cohenim do not collude with the rest of them.
David Preiser (USA) | 05.02.09 – 4:02 am
Have you ever heard of Lev Leviev? Known as ‘the man who broke de Beers” he is Israel’s richest man. He owns diamond mines in Angola etc.
Fascinating profile here –
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/16/magazine/16Leviev-t.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1
Anonymous | 05.02.09 – 9:42 am |
Irrelevant. The article you provide even explains that De Beers still holds the lion’s share of the market. It still manipulates the diamond prices by hoarding, and forcing mining groups in Africa and Russia back into the cartel., even if the article doesn’t get around to mentioning that. In any event, the Jews didn’t take over the diamond monopoly in 1989 and gain the ability to set prices, so the conspiracy theory is baseless. The Israelis hoarded for a while in the 1970s, which affected prices, but that was then, has nothing to do with Mugabe, and is also irrelevant to the conspiracy theory.