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Phew – we made it to Wednesday and a brand new Open Thread! Make sure you file your observations of BBC bias here! Don’t hold back…

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  1. Guest Who says:
    September 17, 2010 at 8:16 am

    Anyone aware of any official rhyme or reason to the use, or abuse, of the ‘comments are closed’ moderating tool across BBC blogs?

    It seems…inconsistent, at best.

    One has more or less got used to Mr. Robinson’s shutting down at going home time, thereby dis-enfranchising many not given free rein to add their thoughts while at work.

    But it seems to be spreading, with Richard Black the latest to pull the plug.

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  2. Guest Who says:
    September 17, 2010 at 8:50 am

    Form the Guardian, noted non-hypocritical, ruthlessly objective, centrist media organ…

    Just as night follows day the Daily Mail can relied upon to provide a regular dose of BBC bashing. And so it launches a new feature today, ‘Whinge Watch’, which is dedicated to ‘monitoring the BBC’s biased reporting of the battle to save Britain’s economy’. Apparently the corporation ‘lacks context’ and has an agenda in its coverage. Unlike the Mail, naturally. Daily Mail P15

    Naturally.

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    • Roland Deschain says:
      September 17, 2010 at 9:16 am

      Of course, as no-one here needs to be told, there is no requirement to buy the Daily Mail if one is not reading it.  Unlike the BBC, naturally.

      This seems to be a very difficult concept for the Left to grasp, because we have to keep pointing it out to them.

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      • dave s says:
        September 17, 2010 at 9:40 am

        Quite so. The libleft view is the natural viewpoint of all civilised people. This should be as free as air and any contrary view should be paid for.  So they view the BBC is not really funded by a tax but by a willingly given contribution to a righteous cause. I think they would really like the Guardian to be included in this. In contrast the Mail etc are part of the forces of darkness and those degenerate enough to want to read must pay.

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    • Guest Who says:
      September 17, 2010 at 11:08 am

      DavidACGregory   Daily Mail call new BBC monitoring “feature” “WhingeWatch”. Erm. Who exactly is doing the whingeing?

      I was actually tempted to concede ‘fair point’, as it is a silly moniker, but then again I do believe that it is intended to note when Aunty is on the Whinge when things don’t meet with the needs of the narrative. Cue ‘single muvva’ at next cuts segment.

      But nice to see the two wrongs make a media spat school of handbags at dawn gearing up nicely. I am sure we will be treated to many more ‘personal views’ ‘ere long.

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  3. George R says:
    September 17, 2010 at 9:40 am

    More people are seeing BBC-NUJ political bias as daily and systematic: 

    “The ‘Daily Mail’ monitors the BBC’s biased reporting of the battle to save Britain’s economy”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1312783/BBCs-biased-reporting-battle-save-UK-economy.html#ixzz0zmIJ5q9A

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    • John Anderson says:
      September 17, 2010 at 10:16 am

      That Mail article is by Tim Montgomerie of the ConservativeHome blog.

      Some years ago the Telegraph ran a daily BBCWatch looking for bias and finding lots of it.    I think the effect of such sustained – even for a few weeks – watches helps conving people that the BBC is truly biased.  Yes,  the Mail and Telegraph are right-wing,  you would not get such a BBCWatch in the Guardian or Independent.  But our frequent complaint here is that many people even of the right are not really aware how much the constant bias occurs,  the almost-subliminal effect of the BBC’s bias across so many threads of its output.

      Anything that opens people’s eyes to BBC bias is good.  I reckon there are far more people now than, say, 5 or 10 years ago that agree there is endemic bias.   Coupling the notions of bias with frequent examples of BBC profligacy increases the chances of the BBC being cut down to size.

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  4. kitty shaw says:
    September 17, 2010 at 12:21 pm

    Fact – The Vatican City is a country, though admittedly only an observer rather than full member of that ineffective expensive talking shop the UN.
    The Vatican City is recognised as an independent state by numerous treaties. The Vatican City meets all 8 criteria to be a fully independent state.

    Fact – The Pope is the head of that state.
    He is not democratically elected, though of course he is elected by the cardinals which puts him way ahead of plenty of the worlds dictatorship.
    He is also the head of a religious denomination/religion, the Roman Catholic Church.

    Fact – The Vatican has received many state visits from the UK, including from Prime Ministers, members of the royal family and the monarch herself, all paid for by the Vatican as state visits, even when they included religious elements.

    Fact – The current visit by the Pope is being paid for by the UK only for the state elements of it, which is only right given the above, all religious elements of the visit are being funded by the Catholic Church.

    Fact – The unholy row over the visit backed by the bBC is disrespectful at least as much to a diplomatic visit as it is to this countries five million catholics.

    Fact – There is precedent, an unelected head of state who is also the head of a church denomination who goes round the world.
    Think that person should be equally dissed by all nations? Think again, that person is Queen Elizabeth II.

    Fact – Any similar dissing of an Islamic leader would be met with uproar and violence on the streets, but no danger of that, none of them have got the cahoneys.

    Fact – The bBC gives huge billing to the ‘protests’ by a handful, nearly as much as that of tens of thousands in support.

    So why aren’t any of these facts being reported by the BBC, in reality the BBC would rather report the actual reverse in some cases, i.e the opposite of a fact. and why aren’t they challenging some whio are in denial of these facts like the woeful Stephen Fry and friends, it seems the bBC would rather just bow down to the luvvies.

    Sorry to have to make a long rant on this but the bBC are really getting my goat about this.

    By the way for the record, fact – I am NOT a Catholic.

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  5. David Preiser (USA) says:
    September 17, 2010 at 2:17 pm

    Oh, goody.  The BBC has Sinead O’Connor on now to talk about her hatred for the Church.  Anti-Catholic McVeigh said that O’Connor was ordained a few years ago by some fringe group, but that’s not why they’re going to have her on.  This is (@3:08):

    From “Saturday Night Live” in 1992.  It was a big deal in the US when it happened.  I don’t remember her saying anything about child abuse at the time.  I seem to recall it was about the ordination of women.  She tore up a picture of the last Pope on air, and said “Fight the real evil”.  She’s spouting venom against “men in dresses”, and McVeigh is eating it up.  I’m not saying she’s wrong about the evil that went on for decades, but plenty of priests have been defrocked or put out to pasture.  There wouldn’t be a massive shortage of priests in places like Belgium or New York City if they were all still working.  O’Connor is getting an uninterrupted platform now.  Let’s see them have someone on saying this about an imam.

    The current Pope has admitted there was a problem a hundred times already, so it’s getting boring to hear that there’s a cover up and nobody admits anything happened.  If she knows all this stuff, and the public knows all this stuff now, how is it a secret?  This is not helping the victims, really.

    And no mention at all during the entire segment of the video I’ve posted.

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  6. David Preiser (USA) says:
    September 17, 2010 at 2:27 pm

    Yet another Pope basher now.  This guy just said that the Pope is awful becaus he wants to have Catholic schools educating Catholic children, complaining that this is horrible segregation and not good for social cohesion.  Let’s see him say that about Muslim schools.  Any thoughts, BBC?

    Then he blamed the Church exclusively for the spread of AIDS in Africa. What about all those magical-thinking Afircan leaders who say it doesn’t exist or that AIDS medicine is something the white man uses to sterilize black people and all that crap?  Which African rulers who failed on AIDS prevention were controlled by the Church?  Again, unchallenged by McVeigh.  It they’re going to have people on just to tell lies, what’s the point?

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  7. David Preiser (USA) says:
    September 17, 2010 at 3:08 pm

    Yet another person from the Tablet.  Are there no other Catholic media people available to the BBC besides the activist and anti-B16 Tablet which compared the Church’s handling of the new translation of the the Mass to its handling of the child sex abuse scandal?  Ah, I see I’ve answered my own question.

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