…so how many years makes for a “tradition”? With the BBC; not so many when it suits them.
Number 10 shuns EU flag tradition
Downing Street will not fly the EU flag over Number 10 during Europe Day on Monday unlike previous years, the BBC has learned.
The Royal Wedding…traditional. Morris dancing…traditional. Flying the EU flag? Meh.
The UK’s relationship with Europe is a potential source of tension between the Conservative and Liberal Democrat coalition partners.
Making an uncalled for political point about the whole thing the BBCs own Laura Kuenssberg tweets:
No 10, FCO + Treasury decide not to fly EU flag for Europe day on Monday, but Vince’s BIS dept will! (DECC conviently has no flagpole)
Really? The Coalition must be doomed. Doooomed! The BBC – looking for splits wherever they can…
In TURKEY, some Muslims are more concerned with burning the flags of USA, Israel and Britain, in expressing their support for Islamic jihadist mass murderer, Bin Laden; and they will continue to do the same once the PATTENs and INBBCs of the world undemocratically engineer entry of 80 million Turks into EU:
“Turks Mourn Their Hero Bin Laden”
http://stopturkey.blogspot.com/2011/05/turks-mourn-their-hero-bin-laden.html
George R
And, of course, the secular Turks feel the opposite. Turkey is a much more complex country than you seem to think !
Try studying the history !
Thanks for reminding me of your Turkish and Muslim connections; and I recall your admiration for the Islamic Ottoman Empire of yore.
Please don’t tell me to study history, or I might be tempted to tell you not to view Islam, the Ottoman Empire or Turkey through rose-coloured spectacles!
Turkey isn’t lost – yet. That’s not to say it should be an EU member state.
deegee,
Well I hope not. Funny your choice of words. You must have read the excellent article in “Newsweek” 11.12.06 by Owen Matthews ” Who lost Turkey ? “.
I agree with you, it is not too late but the European “leaders ” are so low quality, ignorant and gutless, I doubt if they are even aware of the problem. Maybe, Angela Merkel is the best hope but even then……..
George R ,
Yes, we have crossed swords on this before. Please don’t tell me I view Turkey through rose-coloured spectacles ( I think you mean “tinted” ). I lived there 2 years, speak some Turkish , am well aware of the realities of that country. My knowledge doesn’t come simply from raeding books.
The Western “leaders are making a big mistake with Turkey, not by pretending Turkey can join the EU.The Turks don’t want to and it will never happen.
The mistake is to support the current vile Islamic government and ignore the Turks who want to bring it down.
Shortly after he became PM, Cameron gave a speech in Ankara
( in english, he attempted to say a few words in Turkish, got it wrong and made a complete prat of himself ) in which he demonstrated not only his total ignorance but, more worryingly, the ignorance of the useless FCO.
If the West doesn’t get a grip of the Turkey problem, the extremist Turks will be at the Gates of Vienna for a second time and this time they won’t retreat.
On the other hand, maybe if the West are too weak to defend themselves, they deserve all they get.
Reading !
Presumptuous!
And I mean what I say: including ‘coloured’.
George R,
I feel any discussion between you and me is sterile and fruitless.
But, before I go, I would advise you to try and put your narrow-minded religious bigotry to one side for a minute and view the world objectively.
But, I believe I am wasting your time and you are wasting mine.
All the best for the future and take care. Goodbye.
Thanks for calling me a ‘bigot’; your position is politically revealing.
You say ‘goodbye’ to me. And I say ‘good riddance’ to you.
Perhaps somebody should remind Laura Kuenssberg and Co, that the loathsome E.U. superstate is about as popular as the BBC’s much vaunted alternative voting system, that went down like a lead zeppelin with the British people earlier this week.
Still, when everything you do or say is funded by the British tax payer, whether they like it or not, it’s easy for the BBC and their good Comrades to detach themselves from the realities of things, and position themselves in the land of make believe, where everyone reads the Guardian, Red Ed is adored by the ever grateful masses, and the teachings of Karl Marx have become the very paragons of virtue for netter times ahead.
I’m sure I’ve read reports that the bbc receives funding directly from the EU. If so, dogs don’t bite the hand that feeds them.
They do if you try to take it away from them again.
Yes;
‘Sunday Times’ (2008):-
“Fears of bias as BBC gets £141m in EU loans”
http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/tv_and_radio/article3257748.ece
Why BBC-EU wants an extra £141miilion in loans, in addition to the annual £3,500,000,000 it gets from licencepayers’ tax is not really known.
Of course, both BBC-EU and the EU political bureaucracy find it politically mutually congenial to be financially interlocked in this way, as will Europhile, PATTEN. Of course, it colours BBC-EU’s political ‘reporting’, in favouring EU.
Yes. They got a major loan at preferential rates from EU sources a few months ago. Surely there can’t be any question of a conflict of interest though? (No more so than the many members of the both Houses of Parliament who are former MEPs or employees of the EU whose pension conditions oblige them to continue to act in the best interests of the EU. Good God, the Quislings are all around us!)
Dazed and confused,
Don’t you mean “Led Zeppelin” ?
I think one rather followed the other.
http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/go+down+like+a+lead+balloon
A Zeppelin being about as big a balloon as one can get.
‘…remind Laura Kuenssberg and Co.. easy for the BBC and their good Comrades to detach themselves from the realities of things, and position themselves in the land of make believe, where everyone reads the Guardian, Red Ed is adored’
Being fed the line from a singular (and evidently rather small and unrepresentative one if actual national voting is to be accepted, as opposed to ‘the narrative’ from that little outpost of Islington which, it appears, thinks it speaks for the whole country. Certainly seems to speak TO it, thanks to a £4B personal agenda PR machine) direction is almost the default.
Maybe today Ms. K can next move from cheerleader to being Mr. Ed’s HR director, facilitating Lib Dem minister defections from one rather sorry political party to one that seems halfway to China (in more ways than one). Actually a heck of an idea.
I have my new 4th Reich flag ready for burning on the day 😀
Try it, its very soothing.
It could turn out to be a national pastime like bonfire night.
The bbc have embraced the EU so completely, it must appear to be a direct insult to them personally, for the EU flag not to be flown. Maybe a tradition could be started whereby the EU flag is ritually burnt in front of broadcasting house on europe day. I also wonder what the rest of Europe thinks, those not embraced by the EU octopus, at having their continent hijacked by a bunch of anti-democratic socialists. Maybe they should gang together and have an alternative Europe day; perhaps on the first of May each year.
The Swiss and Norwegians seem to be doing OK outside the EU !
Maybe the BBC could do an outside broadcast or two from a Mosque,having given the happy throng an E. U flag for the required “celebration of diversity”
Let`s see if Evan, Sandi and the like are feeling brave enough to show the rest of us their commitment to the EuroProject in practice. If they are a bit wary of using the EU flag, then why not use the usual white flags they have ready to run up at any one of the circumstances that make them “uneasy”(Marr) or “uncomfortable”( Rowan).
OT, but lots of comments on Guido re Michel Gove handing dimbleby and another beeboid their heads over pro-labour bias ! Anyone here catch it ?
Yes, there’s a transcription of the Gove v Dimbleby one on the second page here.
‘How many years make a “tradition”?’
13 of course!
Will go to Guido after this,Backwoodsman!
I certainly dId hear Gove fight back as I mentioned on Friday.
It was with Martha Kearney on “the World at One”-he was hardly devastating, but at least he “began the conversation” we will surely be needing.
He accused the BBC of having written the ” Lib Dem/Tory split/Clegg must go” opinions in advance of his even getting the results-and the Beeb merely expected him to provide the necessary soundbites for the boys upstairs with her “questions”.
Both he and Danny Alexander made the point that for the Beeb to hang around after dark around Nottingham City Hall to get the first comments of an ousted Lib Dem is hardly the typical “rage and betrayal” felt by Lib Dems everywhere across the land”. But -like the Vale of White Horse-some things seem to suit the BBCs agenda and they will go to some trouble to get the “evidence”
Gove did say much the same thing with Dimbleby-scripts already written for BBC so it can promote its OWN version of events ..and like Martha, Davys protests were half arsed and effete…just like their paymasters are by their very nature
Presumably an Izzard or a Ianucchi are writng comeback lines so Martha,Davy might have a script for any such future occassions when they feel emboldened to go off piste or to risk their own words as opposed to BBC Command and Control-under the likes of Richard Leeming etc!
Think I know why Bin Ladens death got to them-he too was a privileged guilt trippin` wannabe Wolfie tha wanted one world under his benign influence,once the heretics had seen sense one way or the other.
Bin Laden actually DID change history unlike these media houris who only hope that we will act on their body language. They`d not risk anything to change anything but the coffee filter(as long as they`d all had the required training and awayday seminars though!).
Yet-maybe we can get the BBC to condemn Bin Laden now we know he possibly did not have a TV licence-maybe the BBC could train up a few baby seals it has saved from global warming, in order to break into other Pakistani bunkers where the license might have (inadvertedly of course!) not been paid. After all-it is now THEIR BBC and don`t we all know that by now?
Compare to news report of the same news event.
BBC;
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-13325448
CNN;
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/05/08/egypt.clashes/index.html?hpt=T1
In the one report the christians strated in the other Muslims. In the one report there were no casualties in the church which was set ablaze . In the other report people jump from the church which was ablaze.
No prices for who reported what.
In the first version of the BBC article there was no mention of the christian side of the story.
In this link from the BBC;
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-13325550
“Clashes between Muslims and Christians in Cairo left at least five people dead and the al-Azraa church on fire.
The clashes – in the suburb of Imbaba – came after Muslims attacked the Saint Mena church to free a Christian woman, witnesses said.
They alleged she was being held against her will because she wanted to convert to Islam.
Soldiers and police, backed by tanks, fired guns and tear gas to separate the groups, according to reports. ”
Clashes instead of an attack of muslims of a church.
It is no longer an rumor but a fact that there was a christian women being held against her wil. No context that the christians women are reguarlar being kidnapped by muslims and than forced to marry a muslims and forced to convert to islam.
You couldn’t be more biased if you tried too.
The BBC is the enemy.
The BBC parasites are not into democracy. Notice whenever a trendy BBC backed issue is put to a vote they get defeated e.g Regional Assemblies, AV and no doubt their beloved EU would get the same treatment. The reason is simple, the BBC represent the anti-democratic elite ,not the majority of people who want the state to leave them alone to get on with their lives.
The BBC aren’t looking for splits, they are looking for the destruction of the coalition and a new election.
Same thing.
A Good Question heads up this blog!
Sadly in Beebworld there are no certainties,no history or no facts to include!
All must be aimless controversies, fights in the minibar, gossip over the fence about that “no better than she ought to be” Mrs Clegg down at number 10 etc…and those curtains at Bin Ladens house have been closed a bit too long for our liking…and we`ve not been invited in to see the fuss either…something to hide eh Mrs Miliband?
So-all is “fresh” “mega” “fascinating” or “raging controversy”…storms in a teacup(or B cup for Andrew Marr)!
Yet what`s the fuss…as their daddys guru St Bob of Dylan said-before he grew up-was “the answer my friend is blowing in the wind”…that`s why they got us to pay for all their turbines!