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  1. Jeff Waters says:
    November 17, 2011 at 7:52 pm

    Bright sparks – A uncritical PR piece for an employment scheme that’s only available to women.I wonder if they’d be quite so upbeat about a scheme that turned women away…

    Jeff

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:
      November 17, 2011 at 8:09 pm

      The “political” reporter and her editor realized this story of the private sector funding jobs was a bit off-Narrative.  So they got the woman in charge to help out:


      Ms Johnson believes government money earmarked to boost employment should be focused on these sorts of initiatives, rather than on further education courses that she says get people a certificate but do not necessarily provide the hands-on experience required by employers.

      Whew – that was a close one.

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  2. George R says:
    November 17, 2011 at 9:49 pm

    No irony by BBC-NUJ’s political chums at the ‘Guardian’.  
     
    ‘Guardian’ denounces popular e-petition support for political causes which ‘Guardian’ doesn’t like, such as opposition to mass immigration, and to the E.U.  
     
    But, of course BBC-NUJ-‘Guardian support the unrepresentative, illegal ‘Occupier’ rabble!  
     
    “E-petitions: the people’s voice”  
     
     
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/nov/17/e-petitions-the-peoples-voice

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    • Reed says:
      November 17, 2011 at 10:15 pm

      Bizarre comment after that article :

      And in time miilions of licence-fee payers might suspend their direct debits for a month or two to remind the BBC that it’s not the bullies in Downing Street that they should be protecting and serving.

      Does this person watch the same BBC that we do, or has he/she not tuned into it’s news output since before May 2010 ???

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  3. Reed says:
    November 17, 2011 at 10:02 pm

    This is interesting. A Catholic woman, who is refusing to pay her licence fee, is taking her case to the European Court of Yuman Rites. I can’t say I really support her religious based argument, as I believe ALL religions ought to be open to criticism and even ridicule, but I do thoroughly object to the fact that one religion is placed in the ‘open season’ section whilst another(one in particular) is strictly ‘off limits’, with the obligatory ‘we must respect people’s religious beliefs’ mantra.
    My primary problem with the BBC is the political bias that pervades it’s news, and seeps into several other departments.

    It’s an interesting article, anyway :

    http://yiannopoulos.net/2011/11/17/the-bbc-would-change-if-we-had-veronica%E2%80%99s-courage/

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  4. Martin says:
    November 17, 2011 at 11:03 pm

    Laurie Penny on Newsnight just made an utter tit of herself, funny that Maitlis sided with her as well. The banker hardly got a word in.

    Silly cow didn’t understand that we pay 40 billion a year to service our national debt.

    The BBC don’t get it. Mason was a twat as well, the protests for the most part just involved a few hundred people, harldy mass riots or protests. Most full of hacks.

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    • John Anderson says:
      November 18, 2011 at 1:07 am

      Here’s the Daily Show taking the piss out of OWS – street interviews that show the banality of it all:

      http://www.breitbart.tv/the-daily-show-destroys-occupywallstreet-better-than-any-evil-banker-could/

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      • David Preiser (USA) says:
        November 18, 2011 at 4:05 am

        You beat me to it, John. To me, this is a must-see #OccupyFail.

        The enormous disappointment from the Daily Show nomenklatura that their darlings are an unmitigated disaster is palpable.  And the guy who distinguishes between personal property and private property is perfect BBC material.

        I said there was leadership going on, and that their “general assembly” was not what appeared to be.  The bulletin board listing the daily regime was a giveaway.

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    • cjhartnett says:
      November 18, 2011 at 12:51 pm

      I made a comment on this on the QT feed I think last night!
      Not much more to add apart from the fact that we now know where the worlds red squirrels ended up…that shade of red only comes from 5th Avenue…how Laurie is prepared to go all those extra (air) miles to feel the proletariats pain.
      Got to be the lefts response to Hughie Greens love child…that self-righteous shrilling over any attack on the Labour Party has surely been coached somewhere near Harmans finishing school…

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  5. ap-w says:
    November 18, 2011 at 12:16 am

    Just watching Mehdi Hasan on “This Week” being given free rein to trot out the tired old BBC lefty hack line that David Cameron is out of touch because he went to Eton and Oxford and was in the Bullingdon Club. So I’m guessing Wikipedia is playing up again when it ays that Mehdi Hasan studied PPE at Christ Church, Oxford.

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    • My Site (click to edit) says:
      November 18, 2011 at 9:44 am

      ‘Mehdi Hasan studied PPE at Christ Church, Oxford’

      Really? I did not know that.

      Funny it has not come up before.

      Worth repeating.

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      • ap-w says:
        November 18, 2011 at 11:18 am

        It gets better. Hasan went to the egalitarian paradise of Merchant Taylors’ School before going to Christ Church – so when he was going on about Clegg going to Westminster and Cameron going to Eton it must have been some petty jealousy about the hierarchy of which public school you have been to. What a complete fraud.

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        • Martin says:
          November 18, 2011 at 11:29 am

          Funny that they never take the piss out of Harman who is a toff of course.

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        • jarwill101 says:
          November 18, 2011 at 12:51 pm

          PPE -Piss Poor Erudition. A frikkin useless, self-indulgent, costly waste of the public purse, rendering the degree holder fit only to pontificate from a great height on subjects they will never, ever, understand, or, more to the point, actually care about. A degree that is the last refuge of the posturing, privileged, liberal hipster half-wit, & therefore a surefire ticket into Beeboidia: the land that couldn’t wait for the 12th imam.

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          • Span Ows says:
            November 18, 2011 at 1:03 pm

            Re PPE, you’re right: the proof you will see when you look at this list from a couple of years ago…

            http://owsblog.blogspot.com/2009/11/old-oxfordian-overseers.html

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          • Span Ows says:
            November 18, 2011 at 1:06 pm

            ..and just in case you don’t want to read my blog (  >:o  )…

            David Miliband (PPE degree from Oxford)
            Ed Miliband (PPE degree from Oxford)
            James Purnell (PPE degree from Oxford)
            Ed Balls (PPE degree from Oxford).
            Jaqui Smith (PPE oxford)
            Yvette Cooper (PPE oxford)
            Ruth Kelly (PPE oxford)
            Peter Mandelson (PPE oxford)
            David Cameron (PPE oxford)
            William Hauge (PPE oxford) [sic]
            Chris Huhne (PPE oxford)
            Stephanie Flanders (PPE oxford)
            Rupert Murdoch (PPE oxford)
            Nick Robinson (PPE oxford)
            Nick Cohen (PPE oxford)
            Michael Crick (PPE oxford)
            Krishnan Guru-Murthy (PPE oxford)
            John Sergeant (PPE oxford)
            James Robbins (PPE oxford)
            Evan Davis (PPE oxford)
            David Dimbleby (PPE oxford) 

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            • jarwill101 says:
              November 18, 2011 at 1:29 pm

              A veritable web of wankers, suckling greedily from the nation’s teats (bar Murdoch). What a shower. I’d have six of them straight up on charges of crimes against the British people. And those are just the beeboids.

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  6. George R says:
    November 18, 2011 at 10:16 am

    “Revealed: The feud between BBC’s Robert Peston and Eddie Mair that keeps spilling out on-air ”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2062732/Fight-night-BBC-feud-Robert-Peston-PM-presenter-Eddie-Mair-played-live-radio.html#ixzz1e3C7YYlK

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  7. George R says:
    November 18, 2011 at 10:27 am

    MASS IMMIGRATION from  Punjab to Brumistan, as reported for indigenous BBC licencepayers by BBC Asian Network’s Mr. Churm.

    “Comtel Air cancels Amritsar to Birmingham flights”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-15775920

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  8. Martin says:
    November 18, 2011 at 11:28 am

    Just to give you all  heads up at a shit storm coming. Female Tory MP has ‘dared’ to suggest (and it is a suggestion) that child benefit be limited to four kids.

    Woman was on Radio 5 (I know I know) with Victoria Derbyshire (I know I know) and Derbyshire spent the whole of the interview twisting her words and making false statements. For example Derbyshire accused the Tory MP of having “these views” when it ws not her views but something she wanted to put out as a suggestion for comments.

    Needless to say Derbyshire and the BBC have already been twisting the MP’s words on the news.

    Expect this to be the top story by Newsnight and then Cameron forced to make an apology.

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    • noggin says:
      November 18, 2011 at 11:55 am

      martin,
      carrying on with v. ohdearbyshire, what defines racism:-)
      not on iplayer yet
      5live time about 10.30 -11.00 am
      seems that el beeb must be pant wetting…
      as it is religion??, culture??? or infact
      anything you may find offensive????
      didn t catch who the spokesman was
      but black ex footballer j barnes, was almost
      in fits, didn t catch either who was going to attempt to
      police this :-)……ohdearbyshire was hanging on every word.

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  9. Jeff Waters says:
    November 18, 2011 at 11:53 am

    ‘Today’s Telegraph reports on an alleged “German plot” to derail an EU referendum here.

    It is, though, the British government which is arguing against significant treaty change which would ensure that there was no referendum here.

    David Cameron’s approach is to argue that if there has to be any treaty change at all it should be minor, not involve the transfer of powers from Westminster to Brussels and, therefore, be carried through parliament – like the revised bailout mechanism – without the need to put it to the people.’

    Nick Robinson at http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15789180

    —-

    Hang on a minute!  After the Lisbon Treaty, Mr Cameron said that:

    ‘Never should it be possible for the British government to transfer power without the consent of the British people.’

    Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/nov/04/david-cameron-referendum-campaign-over

    So it is really out of the question that, if the EU wanted more powers, Mr Cameron might hold a referendum on the matter (to appease the Lib Dems, if nothing else)?

    Jeff

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  10. My Site (click to edit) says:
    November 18, 2011 at 1:01 pm

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/aboutthebbc/2011/11/the-bbc—its-a-bit-like-an-ap.shtml

    ‘…what an extraordinary organisation the BBC is.’

    Says a BBC employee on the BBC.

    It looks like comments may be possible.

    ‘the BBC’s ability to make the good popular and the popular good’

    Uh-huh.

    Thing is, apples can go rotten. Then it’s helpful, some might say a right, not to be compelled to still buy them. 

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  11. Roland Deschain says:
    November 18, 2011 at 1:29 pm

    Oh, just f*ck off, won’t you?

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    • My Site (click to edit) says:
      November 18, 2011 at 1:41 pm

      Blimey… have a care. Not being as HTML savvy I almost thought that was a response to mine:)

      Sensing a disturbance in the climate force chez Aunty.

      Mr. Black seems to be getting more and more reckless to his already ruined reputation, and Newsnight has dusted off Ms. Watts to analyse stuff as well. 

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  12. deegee says:
    November 20, 2011 at 10:27 am

    I mentioned it before but didn’t receive a large response. The BBC has eliminated Oceania as a category. Australia is now in Asia Why? Surely this is bigger than covering Obama’s Hawaii gaff? 

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    • As I See It says:
      November 20, 2011 at 11:10 am

      This open thread has been superseded, but to respond to your question I reckon the shifting of Australia will accomplish two BBC objectives:

      1. The elimination of Oceania will avoid a troublesome reminder of that Orwell book.

      2. When some nasty police incident occurs and the Beeb descibe the perpetrators as ‘Asian’ the public might now imagine them as being a gang of jolly swag men or delinquent diggers perhaps?

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