Question Time LiveBlog 16th February 2012


Tonight Question Time comes from Nottingham.

David Dimbleby is joined by Ken Clarke, John Prescott, LibDem Susan Kramer, businesswoman Julie Meyer* and a random lefty freak called Owen Jones. In fact ignore that last link – you’ll just encourage him with the hits on his blog.

So with the possible exception of Julie Meyer that means no-one right of centre on the panel tonight. Oh dear.

As with last week, please remember that humour is good, sarcasm is fine, biting wit is even better but direct threats of violence and disgusting language are not acceptable. We will not add such comments. Have fun – but be good now…

Your Moderators line-up consists of David Mosque, TheEye and John Ward. David Vance has taken the awesome option of heading out to a concert tonight. I suspect we will all envy him within minutes of kick-off.

It’s a 10:30pm kick off and there is no This Week afterwards so drinking can be focused and intense. See you here later!

UPDATE: For those who enjoy the Blue Nun Bingo whilst watching This Week (and also for those who don’t understand it) David Mosque has created a website dedicated to the game here. Genius. No other word for it. Genius.

* Oh yes

THROUGH A BLACK HOLE…


How interesting. I happened to be listening to the BBC Today programme this morning and around 6.55am there was an item on the French Presidential election. Those of you will follow these things will know that the BBC is cheer leading for the Socialist candidate, Hollande. He has said that if elected he sees “finance as the enemy”, he will raise taxes and he will employ tens of thousands of extra public sector workers. You can see why he appeals to the BBC. Anyway, the BBC item concerned itself with Sarkozy’s declared intention to run. Naturally his chances were given as being low (despite the latest poll showing the significant narrowing of Hollande’s lead). Then came the moment. Whilst discussing which candidates would get through to the second round of the Presidential election contest the BBC journalist (Hugh Sykes, I think) said “We wouldn’t want to see the National Front through to the second round” He quickly corrected himself to say “France wouldn’t want to see the National Front through to the second round.”   Now I carry no torch for Le Pen and his wretched Party BUT I was disgusted at this clear insertion of BBC prejudice against that Party. Surely ALL parties should be treated fairly and with impartiality? I went looking the link for you but guess what? It is not there yet items before it and after it are available to link. Looks like a black hole has swallowed up this blatant instance of bias. The “We” is the term the BBC are most sensitive about using since it reveals the groupthink and they much prefer to hide behind euphemisms. In this instance, it was blurted out but it is now covered up!

HEART-WRENCHING…

Richard Black has plumbed new depths of partisanship. Here, with vicious claws out and fists flying, he sneeringly attacks the Heartland Institute, an organisation which on meagre resources, bravely tries to take on the climate lobby. For Mr Black – and no doubt the full complement of his cheering BBC eco-nut chums – they belong to a most vile category of existence – they are”of overtly libertarian bent”. Their crime? Some emails suggesting that the Institute tries to raise modest amounts of money to fund its activities have fallen into his greenie chums’ hands. Actually, one of them might be a fake, and there’s a strong suggestion that they were obtained by stealth, if not illegally. But for Mr Black all that’s irrelevant – it’s a cue to parade all of his greenie bile and to make it sound as if the Institute is a criminal gang for daring to suggest that there might be opposition to his views. I love especially his phrasing of this:

It’s probably most notable (or notorious) for holding an annual “climate-sceptic” conference in Washington DC.

This is spiteful, nasty name-calling journalism at its very worst, and he even venomously head-butts the mild Anthony Watts, whose What’s Up With That? website bends over backwards to be decent to everyone in the climate debate arena, including Mr Black.

For the record, Mr Black, and to put things in perspective, these emails show that the Heartland Institute clearly struggles to raise a few million dollars to fund its activities. This was reported sensationally in yesterday’s Guardian, and that, naturally, was enough for you and your genuflecting BBC acolytes to frame this unpleasant, hysterical invective.

By contrast – something Mr Black chooses not to mention – the warmist lobby, according to Jo Nova, has received tens of billions of dollars in the last twenty years, and in short, is funded by jacuzzis-full of government and vested-interest cash, not to mention supported by blizzards of BBC propaganda. The Heartland Institute should be regarded as heroes for fighting against such odds. But for Mr Black that’s all the pretext he needs to start the most unplesant of bare-knuckle fights.

Balen Out

After dancing on the head of a pin for pages and pages, the conclusion is that “The Balen report was held for purposes of journalism. On the premise that it was also held for purposes other than those of journalism, it was not predominantly so held. That is why I consider that the report lay beyond the scope of the Act; and why I agree that the appeal should be dismissed. LORD PHILLIPS”
Read the full judgment through the link at the jc.com

A NOD AND A WINK…

Here is Richard Littlejohn:

‘Kevin Bakhurst has deemed it impossible not to mention the Conservative ties of the Tax Payer’s Alliance
The BBC has decided it has a duty to ‘out’ those dangerous headbangers at the Taxpayers’ Alliance.
We may think the alliance is an independent body devoted to exposing the widespread waste of public money. But according to Kevin Bakhurst, controller of the BBC News Channel and the News at One: ‘They have close links with the Conservatives and share many prominent members and financial backers.’
In an internal email, he writes: ‘I don’t think we can carry on without any on-air nod to their political allegiances.’ Gavin Allen, editor of BBC Political News and executive editor of Question Time, replied that similar treatment should be given to outfits such as the Countryside Alliance and ‘Right-leaning’ think tanks such as Civitas.’

Link here

Biased BBC contributor Alan asks

“Wonder if that applies to every group such as Greenpeace, the New Economic Foundation, the National Institute for Economic Research, the various charities whose very existence is based on left wing ethos, the Rowntree Foundation etc etc? Will they all have their own little ‘red triangle’ warning us of their political affiliations and intentions….eg Greenpeace…’extremist green lobby group’…or how about a quick rundown on BBC presenter’s allegiance’s and voting habits? How about an ‘on air nod’ to that?”

Sea of Darkness

Supplying Gaza with fuel is a complex matter. Various political complications have arisen, and electricity blackouts in Gaza are imminent.
Egypt Independent has:

”The Gaza Strip’s sole electricity station has become inoperative because Egypt has begun to crack down on fuel smuggling activities through their shared border, a Palestinian energy official in Gaza said Tuesday.”

From Palestinian News Agency Ma’an:

“Meanwhile, the director of Gaza’s only power plant Walid Saad Sayil said Wednesday that the West Bank-based Palestinian Authority’s delay in payments for fuel contributed to the crisis, as well as failures by the energy authority and company in Gaza.”

Gaza Energy Authority official Ahmed Abul Amreen held a press conference during which he made various statements about the cause of this crisis, adding, apparently with no particular reason, that “he holds Israel responsible.” Jon Donnison picked that up.

Normally Israel supplies Gaza with 120 megawatts per day, some comes from Gaza’s small power plant and some is brought unofficially from Egypt using underground tunnels.
According to EOZ

Israel is providing exactly the same amount of electricity to Gaza it always has.[…] “Palestinians” instructed the Israelis not to provide the Strip with heavy-duty diesel because they could get the fuel – reportedly cheaper – from Egypt.”

Jon Donnison’s report is unclear and muddled. It is framed as though Israel’s blockade has brought about a crisis in which “The strip would soon be “swimming in a sea of darkness”.

The Egyptian and the Palestinian news agencies appear to be more realistic about the situation than Donnison, who sees everything through a haze of Israelophobia

H/T RGH
Update:
Since writing this piece I have had more time to look at it.
I’ve been comparing Jon Donnison’s report with other reporting of the imminent power shortage in Gaza to see whether Donnison’s is significantly more slanted against Israel than the others.

From the plethora of reports on this topic I decided to confine my comparison to aunews, ABC News, Yahoo and France 24 because I thought it reasonable to assume BBC editors had read the contents, since they were the news organisations in web links provided by the BBC.

Three of these contain sections copied and pasted from each other’s material, (this is normal practice, and I think the original copy probably comes from A/P or reuters.)

For example ABC News, mnnews.com.au, and France 24 start with the paragraph beginning: “Gaza’s sole power plant has ground to a halt” Quoting Ahmad Abu al-Amrin, an official from Gaza’s energy authority. They expand thus:

“The Gaza power plant has completely stopped working because of the shortage of fuel entering the Gaza Strip, and the depletion of diesel it needs to work,” said Ahmad Abu al-Amrin, an official from Gaza’s energy authority.

He called on Egypt “to assume its historical responsibility in supporting the resistance of the Palestinian people by ensuring they had all the necessary fuel to operate the plant”.

According to the UN agency for humanitarian affairs, OCHA, (UN Office for the Co-ordination of Humanitarian Affairs) the amount of fuel being transported through the tunnels from Egypt to Gaza has dropped by half over the last fortnight, reportedly due to increased restrictions on the movement of fuel by the Egyptian police.

“Only half of the amount of fuel that entered in the previous weeks has been coming into Gaza for the past two weeks,” OCHA said in its weekly report.
“Unconfirmed reports indicate that the reason for this sharp decline is an increase in fuel prices triggered by movement restrictions imposed by the Egyptian police on fuel cargoes travelling to Rafah.”

They continue with identical quotes from Ismail Haniya, calling on Cairo to
immediately intervene and meet all the electricity needs of Gaza in a permanent way” (See? even the Hamas leader isn’t blaming Israel here) All three continue with heart-rending descriptions of the suffering the shortages will cause.

Towards the end France 24 and AU News insert the obligatory:

“Israel imposed a blockade on the Gaza Strip in 2006 following the capture of one of its soldiers in June of that year.
The blockade was tightened a year later following Hamas’s forcible takeover of the territory, and Israel began restricting the amounts of fuel allowed through the crossings.”

But they add this ‘mitigating’ paragraph:

“To cope with the situation, Palestinians gradually developed tunnel infrastructure allowing the transfer of large quantities of fuel into Gaza, at a cheaper price, which resulted in an almost complete halt in the purchase from Israel,” OCHA said.
Gaza’s main power plant has closed down on several occasions in the past because of fuel shortages.”

Yahoo hasn’t used so much ‘cut and paste,’ but its report contains roughly the same information, with an additional relevant paragraph.

“Abu Al-Amrain said Israel bore overall responsibility for the ongoing crisis, but Mustafa Ibrahim, a human rights researcher and writer, said Hamas’s administration had failed to provide the territory with an energy safety net.
“(The Energy Authority) made everything depend on fuel smuggled through the tunnels, without having any guarantees that this flow could continue. The current severe crisis is evidence that this was the wrong approach,” he said.

And Yahoo’s heart-rending paragraph:

The sound of generators roared in Gazan streets as businesses tried to keep the lights on, but the PCHR warned that the power cuts could have serious consequences. “The current crisis may impact access … to vital services,
including the supply of drinking water,” it said in a statement.

Yahoo continues:

Gaza’s precarious energy supply is bad at the best of times, with a rickety infrastructure system badly degraded during fighting between Israel and Hamas over the past five years.

Israel maintains a blockade by land, air and sea on Gaza to prevent weapons and material with potential military use from reaching Hamas, which is committed to destroying the Jewish state.

The editor is given credit: ” (Editing by Crispian Balmer)” Hats off to you Crispian!

One does wonder if Donnison is lazy stupid or disingenuous.

As far as I can tell, Jon Donnison’s report owes more to earlier BBC reports than to the aforementioned group.
For example, in January 2008 “Gaza City plunged into Darkness”

“Cars were still driving along Gaza City’s darkened streets
The only power plant in the Hamas-run Gaza Strip has shut down because of a lack of fuel, Palestinian officials say, blaming Israeli restrictions.”

At that time they turned to John Ging, notorious for disseminating anti-Israel propaganda whenever the slightest opportunity presented itself, for their heart-rending plea.

In November 2008 they were at it again. Gaza power cut blamed on blockade.
This time the shortage was blamed on Israel’s blockade because they couldn’t receive parts for the power plant, despite Israel supplying 60% of Gaza’s fuel, and the power plant providing 32% at the time as per the BBC.

“Israel closed the crossings after a rocket was fired at Israel late on Monday.
In the past, Israeli officials have accused Hamas of cynically exaggerating the impact of border closures to garner sympathy, says the BBC’s Aleem Maqbool in Jerusalem. But the United Nations relief agency in Gaza (Unrwa) has warned of a worsening humanitarian crisis unless the crossings are opened.”

(Probably John Ging again)

In March 2010 the BBC website boasted a slideshow of 10 images of various people in Gaza with generators and various people in Gaza who need generators, photographs kindly supplied by Karl Schrembi of Oxfam.

Jon Donnison’s article reads like a series of disconnected and emotive sentences. He could have copied and pasted from non BBC material and still been lazy, but he would have looked less stupid and less disingenuous if he had at least tried to appear less biased.

OFF THE RAILS!

Biased BBC’s Alan writes;


“Richard Bacon was onthe other day talking about the Queen’s 60th Jubilee and Andrew Marr’sprogramme about it .Bacon thought Marr too obsequious and reverential -.whatwas needed obviously was more scandal and provocative, damaging revelationsabout the Queen. However he did think the Panorama programme on US tent cities was good:

richard bacon @richardpbacon
‘That Panorama was bloody good’

The irony of the tent cities in America of unemployed people is when youcontrast them to the posturing pseuds of the Occupy tent cities. The‘Occupiers’ are anti-capitalism and business whilst those in the last resorttent cities would love a job and for capitalism to kick in again at full blast. 


The BBC does love to use a programme about one thing to slip in its Marxistworld view about something else. A good example recently is this:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p00ncxkd/Toughest_Place_to_be_a…_Series_2_Train_Driver/

What should have been a programme about a man’s struggle to master a trainbecomes a social commentary on living conditions and business practises inPeru.

“The metals and minerals carried by this train brought new wealth to Peru andmake up 60% of its exports but this is a divided society with millions livingin poverty. Passing through one of Lima’s largest slums the train is regularlyattacked by people venting their frustration at this growing inequality.”  (Really? Who says they’re not just vandals?)

The programme was run through with these sentiments attacking the miningindustry overlaid with sad music providing a soundtrack to the ‘desperateplight’ of the people….‘on this wild frontier nothing stands in the way ofthe mining industry‘……‘starting to realise that the main thing is to getthis valuable mineral to the ports to ship them off to the rich countries,China and America, not bothered about anything except getting this stuff to theports and the ships…’

Presumably before the mining industry brought massive numbers of jobs andwealth to the country they all lived in vast wealth and harmony….the influxof money for exports has curiously meant less money for Peruvians?

BBC logic suggests that industry and business are bad things, but the government isfailing to create jobs and growth which are needed to stop the youthrioting….so we need industry and business because they are good things. Immigration is good for the economy and is therefore good ….but the growingeconomy is bad for the environment and is therefore bad. Though US immigration is bad as it is ‘hoovering up’ all the world’sresources…unless of course it is poor Mexicans without whom American societywould collapse without all those maids, nannies and gardeners.

NEGATIVE OUTLOOK, POSITIVELY ASSURED

Hah! I did laugh at this interview with Ed Balls and his former Girlfriend Stephanie Flanders on today. To be fair to Flanders she did try to be neutral but Balls narrative that “we must go for growth and ease off on the cuts” is still very much the BBC mantra. I have to say that it strikes me as surreal that the BBC allow Balls to get away with his dreary monologue without any real focus on the dreadful economic legacy Labour left behind. Is it a thought crime to discuss how Balls messed things up?

FOUR MORE YEARS….

Anyone watch Panorama this evening? Quite remarkable bias, even by the BBC standards. The programme was all about America’s homeless but as ever that was the subterfuge for a more subtle agenda of; 1/Chiding Obama for not being more progressive (although it was the bad Republicans in Congress that prevented him for doing what must be done – spreading the wealth around )  2/ Presenting Republicans as cold hearted monsters who would sooner see kids eat rats …yes rats….than increase Welfarism  3/ Point out that America is a fading superstar, almost third world and  4/ Remind us how thankful we should be for the NHS.

I was also surprised to hear Vegas introduced as “the centre of capitalism” …. and then we got to hear about the people who live in the sewers. Vegas may be the centre for gambling but that is a long way from the hard endeavour of capitalism. The juxtaposition of interviews with Republican figures and images of the alleged starving was not so subtle but I am sure it did the job the BBC wanted. Programmes like this live down to our expectations of the State Broadcaster and the left wing socialist bias exuded right across the duration of the broadcast.