In PMQs Miliband concentrated on the angry exchange Tory Andrew Mitchell had with a police officer…for which Mitchell has apologised, apology being accepted by the Met and by the officer concerned. Surely that is the end of the matter?
So why does Miliband concentrate on that and not on producing some policies to improve the economy, and why when we come to the wash up by the BBC’s John Pienaar does he also concentrate of this subject rather than just say Miliband is indulging in a shallow point scoring exercise of no real significance….it is school boy stuff when the economy is the real subject of concern.
A far more interesting and relevant point was raised in PMQ’s….and ignored by the BBC……
Q15. [122174] Sir Tony Baldry (Banbury) (Con): Does my right hon. Friend agree that there was no structural deficit at the top of the boom, as claimed by the shadow Chancellor?
The Prime Minister: My hon. Friend makes an important point, which is this. The IMF report out this week shows that the structural deficit in 2007, at the height of the boom, was 5% of our GDP, or £73 billion. The shadow Chancellor said there was no structural deficit. I think this really demonstrates just how little Labour has learnt. We have talked about our plans for the British economy—how we are going to help it compete and succeed. We know Labour’s plans for this weekend: to go on a giant march with its trade union paymasters. That is how the Leader of the Opposition is going to be spending his weekend—on the most lucrative sponsored walk in history.
For a long time Balls has been allowed to get away with saying government policies are increasing the debt and slowing growth and that there was no structural deficit when Labour were kicked out of Office and the economy was bounding back to recovery….the so-called recovery just being Labour’s injection of freshly printed ‘money’ under QE….’virtual’ growth.
Confirmation of Balls’ deception came this week when it emerged that under Labour the deficit was far higher than thought….something which might explain why economic recovery is dragging its feet.
Wouldn’t that be something of interest to the BBC as the economy is the central battleground for the Parties? Apparently not….it doesn’t seem to have raised so much as a ripple in the BBC’s coverage….despite a substantial question about the matter in PMQs.
The BBC went to town when the deficit figures reached a record in August…..but evidence of Labour’s foul ups is quietly shelved.
September’s deficit figures are out now…and also a revision, downwards, of August’s. September’s are lower than expected …but I didn’t hear a peep on the radio….despite this….
‘Public borrowing for the financial year-to-date now stands at £38.6bn, compared with £62.8bn this time last year.’
That would seem to be worth more than just a mention.
in a similar vein
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/iraq-soldiers-families-win-damages-fight-091756971.html
instead of seeking damages from the government, they should seek it from the Liebour party and Tony Bliar in particular.
Well said!
I thought the same.
These deaths happened on Hoons watch as well as the likes of Ainsworths-Labour flatfeet to a man…and I use that word advisedly.
Labour have got to pay for this negligence-this was NOT the Governments fault, nor the MODs…the funding and priorities for defence expenditure was Gordon Browns-and his alone!
Why the hell should the taxpayer pay for Labour negligence, incompetence and sheer evil?…it`s about time blame was squarely put where it belongs..with New Labour and nobody else!
the middle east peace envoy aint short of a few bob, I’m sure he would contribute, willingly
Yes I’ve long campaigned for a National Snatch Land Rover Day to commemorate our brave soldiers who were murdered in these monstrosities as Mad Gordon never quite spared them the cash for anything better.
I well remember when eventually our boys were supplied with Mine Resistant Vehicles Mad Gordon had himself flown out to Iraq for the photo opportunity, standing in front of them with a casual,
As you can see behind me…’
Proud of him, you (pretrendy) lefties, are you?
The synthetic outrage about Andrew Mitchell is being stoked by the police union, and Miliband always does what the unions tell him to do.
He should take the advice of his former colleague Chris Mullin MP and not “surrender to the mob” of the Police Federation “bunch of head-bangers”.
Maggie would have kicked Mitchell out in 5 minutes in her day for using such language to the police. For Cameron, Mitchell was another one of the public school boys who sneer down at us “plebs”. It was nothing out of the ordinary to him. That is why I find it hard to vote conservative these days. Give me a conservative who is not a posh boy.
“another one of the public school boys who sneer down at us “plebs”.
Funny, that’s exactly the labour mantra at the moment. It seems that the BBC/ labour alliance is producing results.
Joe Bloggs, try Eric Pickles, Ian Duncan Smith, Michael Gove, Ken Clarke, William Hague etc. You only see ‘Tory posh boys’ because that’s what you want to see. If you look a little deeper many of them are ordinary people who have just worked very hard to get where they are.
Joe, I doubt whether Maggie could give a rats arse for what somebody said to somebody else. She had a country to run, not the tittle-tattle and trivia-obsessed media world we seem to live in today.
Maggie was fighting against the snobbery of the establishment. She would have been appalled at what Mitchell said. And the reason Labour have jumped on it is the reason why I have – because what Mitchell said was despicable. If Cameron had acted sooner then he would have come out of this stronger. Now it looks like public school boys clinging together until they have no choice.
I never knew that the word ‘plebs’ was a swear word. It is too easy for certain sectors of society to label people ‘toffs’ -following them round in supposed Eton uniform etc, with no repercussions at all.
Clare Short was on a 5 Live phone in a few years ago
and when questioned by a perfectly reasonable lady she (CS) shouted out ” You stupid woman.”
The objections raised-nil. Apologies from Short-nil. Apologies from BBC-nil.
Was it ever mentioned again let alone it become a major news item ? Certainly not. One rule for Labour one for the horrid Tories.
How about “that bigoted woman” ?
I’m surprised Mitchell wasn’t Tasered on the spot, unlike the blind 61 year-old in Chorley.
The BBC are more concerned with the militant gay agenda than this country’s finances.
The BBC is really grateful that the gays are behind them.
ooo…errrr…mrs!
You have to be very careful if you have gays behind you.
The only weapon against the evil festering BBC empire is the decision not to buy a tv license. I am not encouraging law breaking in case thats what you are thinking. Disconect your tv from an aerial and de-tune it, but keep it to watch your DVDs and computer games and you will be well within the law.
None of the other news channels even mentioned the gay thing but the commies at the BBC went into overdrive even the bloody local news had an in depth report on it. The countries political opposition may be useless but that doesn’t matter, two gays were turned away from a b n b, big bloody deal.
‘The end of the matter…’
Alan as prescient as ever.
Hi Jim. Have a read of this article in defense of communism. The scribbler of this waffle has the nerve to state that we should be wary of stereotyping China in terms of colonial interests as it has never colonized any country (try telling that to Tibetans!)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19995218
Martin Jacques is the knid of guy that the BBC love to do business with.
Ex-editor of Marxism Today or some such red rag….former Revolutionary type who has done rather well out of his choice of Commie niche…in his case, China.
Just the kind of colonial the Beeb goes to-no doubt they all go back a long way back.
Anyone mention Tiananmen or Tibet?…not on the BBC they don`t..
Wonder which visiting professorships and business dealings our ex-Commie gets in return for being Pekings…yes, Pekings…favourite Pekinese!
As for Martin Lee or Emily Lau-what would THEY know?
Patten? Jacques?-the Chinese will be very afraid…
Blair and his cronies lied and took us into an illegal war. An upper class Tory allegedly calls a policeman a ‘pleb’ and resigns. I detest Liebour and that rubber-headed goon, Ed Rubberband!
nick brown on the daily politics today (Friday) mentioned that Andrew Mitchell called a copper a “pleb” and then he went on to refer to Conservatives as “toffs”.
This has happened several times – martha kearney did it on wato earlier in the week – but these speakers seem to be oblivious that if “plebs” is an insult so is “toffs”.
Of course, though, Conservatives are not a protected victim group and therefore, in the eyes of beeboids, fair game.
Exactly – inverted snobbery is OK, apparently. And now we have a non story over train tickets.
Meanwhile, Harriet Harman worked for the NCCL, which had supported paedophilia, and it attracts very little comment.
Don’t know why the Tories aren’t going for the jugular on that one.
” Don’t know why the Tories aren’t going for the jugular on that one. ”
simply because they do not have the nous, perception, sense, guts, sense, leadership, brains, whatever you want but they just dont have it. In truth they are way too close to new liebor or limp dems over key issues.
They don’t even run a grid to time their announcements: who else would allow the bidding battle for the west coast line franchise to surface in the middle of the Liebor congress, oops conference FFS! who else I ask you?
Losers, fools!
If the Tories believe that the media will settle for Mitchells scalp-I rather doubt it.
The pack smell fear and sacrifice, and will carry on for as long as they`re not reminded of Jimmy Savile and their nonce networks.
Spineless Tories just too polite-too thick-too indifferent and blase-to see just how craven and useless they are.
As soon as the EDL want it as much as Labour-only then will we see a change in the tired old nags of irrelevant party politics.
I see HIGNFY has now become a political arm for the BBC. It has (long ago in my opinion) ditched the comedy with the PC anti-Tory indoctrination aimed at our impressionable youth.
I saw it tonite. Did you note that both guests – bacon and that actor from the thick of it were both BBC employees. Guaranteed not to mention Jimmy Saville. There is a big cover-up going on.
‘both guests … were both BBC employees’
Sheer coincidence, one is sure. Luckily any involved in subsequent inquiries or investigations will of course be fully independent of any BBC affiliation.
Won’t they?
And HIGNFY had a ten minute rant about Romney right down to sneering about his first name…’Barak’ sounds a pretty silly first name to me.
Dear god it was awful.Being a long time HIGNFY fan I had hoped they might redeem them selves,But it was worse than last week.Perhaps because the ‘witch finder general’ ,Joe brand,was there and they were terrified of being denounced to the ‘thought police’ But even so Hislop especially must secretly be ashamed of his self
” Hislop” he aint!
He’s gone native.
No it isn’t! It’s the name of Mohammed’s horse!
To be fair, the only joke made about the President ever on any BBC show on any channel in any medium is the very end of the opening sequence of HIGNFY, where they feature Him sitting at his desk with a halo over His head which morphs into a basketball hoop. And that’s not really even a joke about Him, but rather pokes fun at the worshipers. The actual joke came when they changed the original version of Him shooting a basketball at the hoop from making it to missing the shot.
That’s it. That’s the only joke about Him ever made on the BBC in four years, and it wasn’t even from the actual show itself. I don’t think it’s because there’s a conspiracy to prevent Hislop or the occasional non-Left guest from making a joke, or to keep the writers from doing it. I think they’re all so biased it simply doesn’t occur to them that there could be anything to joke about. Maybe one of them does think of a quip every once in a while, but then feels ashamed for such racist thoughts and shelves it.
Sad but true. The profession of “comedy writer” consist of making jokes about toffs and conservatives and appealing to (Leftie) right-on youth. They can not conceive of any other point of view.
The idea of writing a sketch mocking a champagne socialist Islington dinner party is inconceivable: that’s the life they aspire to!
Dear Tories,
When are you going to wake up and realise that you are being outmaneuvered and ridiculed by Labour, the BBC, the Guardian and the internet every single day? FFS the Chancellor’s department cannot even organise a simple train ride without it turning to a media driven joke writer’s paradise. Get a grip and get a department that can actually understand the mediaand spot obvious man traps being laid in ahead of every Tory MP.
“On an economy drive, Chancellor? George Osborne charged £160 after being caught in First Class carriage with a standard train ticket”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2220250/George-Osborne-charged-160-caught-First-Class-carriage-standard-train-ticket.html
A non story.
Like I do, Osborne chose to sit in First and pay the upgrade. Nothing illegal, nothing dodgy, as some of the media would have you believe – but something that Virgin Train allow. As I say, a non story.
At least Osborne didn’t remove the first class seat covers for his ‘photo call’ as Miliband did, pretending to be in standard, when he travelled first class.
It reminds me of the stories of Jenny Lee (Labourite wife of Urinal Bevin) who, when visiting her Cannock constituency had her driver stop the car just outside the town to change her fur coat for a mac.
That, of course, should have read Bevan.
I saw a statue of him in Cardiff recently and took two pictures: – one with a pigeon on his head and the next with the pigeon in mid-air and a load of birdlime down his face. 🙂
Bad memory – it was a gull. Even worse for the statue.
And of one Anthony Wedgewood-Benn swopping from a ministerial car to an old banger when visiting his Bristol seat, complete with battered tea mug.
Guido makes the call. IPSA rules say 1st Class is not reimbursable unless it is less than the open standard fare. The issue is not whether Osborne upgraded to 1st Class, but whether he did so at his own expense or the taxpayers. The point is lost on the peroxide sink moppet ITV journalist who shopped him. She just wants a trivia story with her byline. I’d be more impressed if she spotted an error in his calculation of the National Debt. But thats asking to much of a media graduate.
well the liebore party and their bbc proxies have got their wish with Andrew Mitchell’s resignation
when are these terminally stupid tories finally going to wake up and actually grow a set of balls to take these arseholes on directly?
never,looks like the answer to that one
Maybe Osborne should have floored the ticket inspector with a jab – after all, that act of pugilism did not do John Prescott any harm.
We need a network like FOX to drag up stories about Liebour gits like Campbell, Mandelson, Livingstone – and then we can get even.
Yes; ‘Fox News’ has this under heading, ‘BIAS ALERT’:
“MSNBC host: Obama answering to ‘higher calling’ by running again, Romney just moving on to ‘next thing'”
By Dan Gainor
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/10/19/msnbc-host-obama-answering-to-higher-calling-by-running-again-romney-just/#ixzz29mLLEQe7
Yes that kind of thuggery can be laughed off with the comment:
” hey that’s just john ya know”
Message from public service trade unions to members:
‘Look, we’re on a roll; the next time you see a **** Cabinet Minister, do something to get him sacked. OK?’
That a once fine country should be reduced to the level the BBC wishes us to fall to is far from OK with many of us.
This Mitchell tale is just not interesting. It is irrelevant to the business of government . And now we have the same media idiots carrying on over a train ride by the Chancellor.
The media is a joke but a very nasty one and at our expense. It no longer wants to report the news but direct the news to fit it’s overweening sense of it’s own importance and agenda. In the case of this country the agenda of the liberal elite. To make itself more important than our leaders, our government and our governing systems, ethics and morality and ultimately ourselves.
It is a deeply undemocratic institution and the BBC is amongst the very worst of it. They will bury the Saville story because they have to. To keep control and a supine public hanging on every wretched word they print, speak or show.
Nevermind “it’s the law”, non-compliance is the only answer, after all the BBC supported non-compliance in order to defeat Pass Laws in South Africa and other laws they do not like in other parts of the world. Fortunately/unfortunately most people here are too law abiding.
‘most people here are too law abiding.’
Well, fines and/or prison if located in one’s own home and with identified means to pay do back the compulsion with tangible threat.
But as things stand, one does wonder if even the most establishment-minded magistrate will in future sign off on a batch of non-payers if they are loud and proudly objecting to pay on the basis not only that this is a service unfit for purpose and manifestly failing its Charter obligations, but to do so is to be made complicit in supporting activity of a much more serious nature than seeking the choice not to pay a poll tax for Blatant British Cover-Ups.
Ironically, the EU Court of Umin Rites may even get onside with that:)
It will only get worse though – think of all those uni students doing media studies or journalism that will go on to be the next news reader or reporter – they are all being taught by the same leftist mindset.. Ultimately it doesnt matter if you take down the bbc as the same mindset will persist elsewhere
The only way to break the cycle of bias reporting is to legally enforce that all news stories of a political nature are reported somewhere that is easily found alongside other politically motivated stories – this should apply to all news groups (or more specifically any publishing organisation that employs more than 5 people – be it printed or online)
Let people see that these stories are of little importance and of little interest – the bias reporting will then shine out like a beacon of mediocrity.
The mainstream media is becoming as bad as left-wing politicians. Sky was unforgivably appalling tonight; thank the Lord we are not coerced into funding that excrement. But, how the BBC can use Liebour as some sort of paragon of virtue is beyond belief. That disgusting party of traitors lied their way through 13 years and we, the public, are still paying the left-wing, socialist price!
‘The mainstream media is becoming as bad’
Watching SKY just now, as it milks the last drops from this, it’s hard to disagree.
A full Osborne bash for the Chancellor not mixing with the people on the train when trying to juggle the country’s finances, then some police union whinger being asked for his views.
Credit the peroxide sink on duty, who did a literal double take on asking this drone if he was happy to get his man, only to be told that no, he was not happy as it was Cameron they were really after. And he had not found his man guilty quickly enough for the police force.
Seems like the kind of copper the BBC would love… until an Occupy demo.
Unleash… the Mason!
” legally enforce that all news stories of a political nature are reported somewhere that is easily found alongside”
If you went down that road you’d very quickly find that what your compelled to get would be that leftist shit that you so depsise.
Entwistle is a pleb, Patten is a pleb, the Dimblebeys are plebs, Bowen is a pleb, Guering is a pleb, Plett is a pleb……..so there………I resign.
you missed out cameroon, anyone who thinks turkey belongs in the EU is more than a pleb!
One has to laugh at the stupidity of this post. BBBC out of touch as usual.
Do yourself (and us) a favour, then, and go and read the Guardian in the nearest latte house with the rest of your rich-kid, lefty friends.
Dickhead Leftards alert. The majority of people in this country do not read the Guardian. They do not think the way the pro BBC minority do. They are much more important than you. That is all!
Savile was molesting and fondling kids?…phew…..that’s all right. He could have done something serious and called them plebs.
Well, at least Newsnight is keeping its priorities consistent..
BBC Newsnight @BBCNewsnight
David Cameron’s energy price fix is dubbed a ‘combi-shambles’. We shine an energy-saving light on the PM’s plans. BBC2, 10.30
Now who, I wonder, so dubbed it thus? I guess there was no space for that to be clarified, even though it may add valuable context.
Not sure tweeting tribal PR is the best line for a ‘news’ magazine whose credibility for integrity is in tatters.
‘….at least Newsnight is keeping its priorities consistent…’
At the end of the Friday edition of Newsnight Emily Maitlis says “We’ll be back, as ever, on Monday”.
It’s hard to define precisely what her tone implied – but there did seem to be some sort of shout out to those hiding behind the camera and to the few frineds of the BBC bothered to still be up this late. It certainly wasn’t quite the standard equivalent of ‘don’t have nightmares’.
Perhaps she was advised to sound defiant?
“Though cowards flinch and traitors sneer,
We’ll keep the red flag flying here.”
Never mind boys and girls. Not long now till 2015 and that Lab-Lib coalition. Increased TV Licence Fees to the strains of….we’ve already had ‘Things Can Only Get Better’….I know…’Happy Days Are Here Again’
“Though cowards flinch and traitors sneer,
We’ll keep the red flag flying here.”
you missed out the next bit:
the working class
can kiss my arse
Ive got the foreman’s job at last!
Followed by ” I’m out of work and on the dole, you can stuff your red flag up your **** “
combi-shambles? Do a google search and you’ll nearly 4000 results. Another bias comment without foundation. As usual.
From a first class railway seat.
Traffic News from the BBC.
Hey, I never would have guessed…..the only problems on London’s roads this Saturday are the upcoming closures for the you-know-what demo.
Helpfully our BBC Radio report tells us precisely what time and place to gather.
I’ll write out me placard and set off by tube. Up the Reds!
And-as ever-lots of information about the Salford by passes and Cross St/Regents Centre problems.
The national broadcaster is just a junked-up hospital radio case these days-but as long as Derbyshire has a helipad, then all`s fine!
‘….lots of information about the Salford by passes….’
An apt remark. I’m becoming ever so familiar with Altringcham, Wilmslow, Middlewich and the Knutsford Road….
The continual drip drip of poison, malice and hoary old canards and caricatures from the BBC.
I`ve got a Tory MP-I think I`ll offer my services as a bias consultant , so the likes of Maitlis and tame editors don`t get away with their sneers and “one of the people” crap.
If we ganged up together, we`d get a good business out of this-paywalls and all!
Consider the slurs about Jacob Rees-Mogg last night by that Sun editor…the obvious avoiding of the question of how the Sun got its police logs-not tha the BBC or Leveson will want THAT looked at in detail.
If a Beeboid says “toff” or “posh boy”-we should be relentless in getting them sacked….how very dare they and all that?
Will offer such a service to the local Tories-but to be honest, I doubt that they`ll be too bothered, being lazy, complacent and just a little stupid-anyone can see what the BBC are up to with their fellow travellers,( fur coats, trabants and ripped out standard class seats).
My stories of the week are not energy, Mitchell or Obama at all-much more Nobel,Griffin, Wiltshire CID, MPs housing cons and that Savile/Newsnight e-mail.
Where is the paper, media outlet or forum for THAT set of news priorities?
The continual drip drip of poison, malice and hoary old canards and caricatures from the BBC.
And the rest of the pathetic press unfortunately. The last time it happened was the mid 90s. Beware.
BBC obviously stung by missing out on breaking the Savile story – 50 years behind the curve with Newsnight (almost) on the case at last and still Guido Fawkes and ITV beat them to the line.
Happily BBC are at last running to get ahead of the news.
Seems there WILL be 1000s at the TUC demo later today.
Apparently Bredon Barber WILL call for a General Strike.
Ed Miliband WILL say……..
One nation…under a groove.
Off BBC topic but still relevant to the overall left-wing debate: snooty, left-winger Polly Toynbee (who failed her A-levels at school) arrogates to herself the right to judge the Tories’ attempts to cut the huge deficit inflated by Liebour. Typical uneducated socialist living in her (inherited) privileged lifestyle in the West End of London. Take away Polly’s rich family and what would she be? An underwater ceramics operator at Whimpy, perhaps?
The best contribution Polly Toynbee made to society was when she worked in a chip van.
Polly Toynbee is a simple machine, who’s only known purpose is to convert champagne to piss.
BBC-NUJ political thinking: ignore the following report- it reflects badly on the Labour Party:
“Labour MP forced to end rent racket… now others may be banned from letting a home while claiming expenses for another”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2220464/Labour-MP-forced-end-rent-racket–banned-letting-home-claiming-expenses-another.html
totally ignored:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/search/linda_riordan?search_form=in-page-search-form
The beeb can get off the hook by saying that Savile was only following in the footsteps of their prophet, pbuh, and that paedophilia was an accepted part of the cult.
Any condemnation of the beeb will cause ‘outrage’ and ‘offence’ and leave them no option but to go on marches calling for death to anything that moves.
Umin Rites will see to the rest.
For BBC-NUJ:
-if it wants to get its story correct on MPs and their travel costs, at taxpayers’ expense:-
‘Telegraph’ –
“The gravy train: 185 MPs travel first class and 24 claim for club class flights.
“More than 180 MPs – including a third of the shadow cabinet – are enjoying first-class train travel at the taxpayer’s expense, an investigation has revealed.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/9623075/The-gravy-train-185-MPs-travel-first-class-and-24-claim-for-club-class-flights.html
‘if it wants to get its story correct’
One of the bigger ‘if’s’ that are in play, if I, in turn, may make so bold.
Accuracy is not their strong suit, whilst errors of omission seem prevalent..
‘high-profile politicians who have claimed for first-class journeys include Ed Balls, Yvette Cooper, Frank Field and Alistair Darling on the Labour benches’
Propaganda backed by censorship.
No way to drive democracy.
I see no problem allowing MPs dirst-class travel if on necessary official business. What I can’t stand is the hypocrisy and cant of those who attack them for it, but do it themselves like most journalists and middle ranking (and up) BBC employees I would bet.
Actually I object to them having dirst-class travel, but don’t mind them having first-class travel. 😉
It’s the gaming of the system that stinks – they stick to the letter of the law while smashing the spirit of the law.
‘I am allowed to travel first class if I am tricksy enough to book in advance and the advance fare is lower than the walk-on second class fare.’
While he or more likely his (our) factotum is booking that first class fare in advance it would not exactly kill them while they’re on them to see if the second class fare was any cheaper.
But why stick to the spirit of the rules eh.
I do wonder about inept the Tories are.
How do they let Labour get away with this crap about ” if anybody but a Tory swore at a policeman, they`d get a night in the cells”….and it gets by with not a peep.
1. Wasn`t there a recent change in things that are deemed “offensive” to the police?…and isn`t it fair to say that you can pretty much say anything to them and there`ll be no consequences. Apart from calling a police horse “gay” of course.
2. Has any MP seen the 24/7 programmes on telly that mock, show up the police as being chummy ,ineffective social workers that may get any vile scumbag-and get him a caution, if it`s REALLY serious…otherwise, they get away with all manner of abuses of the police…and this is now allowed and accepted by the Labour lot who`ve created this climate.
Yet-from the Tories-mere cringing…a whipped dog as Tebbit says.
I miss that man these days…about the last sensible Tory still around.