304 Responses to Open Thread

  1. Steve says:

    AN APPEAL

    Dear all,
    I would like to apologise the owners/founders of this web-site for my possible mis-use. But I would like to make an appeal to all regular readers.

    Over the past few weeks, the British public has learnt of a BBC TV presenter who was able to abuse his position for a very long time. What this situation proves is that no one should be able to get away with such criminal actions, even a BBC presenter.
    Now that the halo has well & truly slipped from the BBC presenters, it is imperative that other presenters should also be exposed for their actions.
    The most important area where BBC presenters need to be exposed is in the area of remuneration & expenses. We know that the BBC management has been very secretive about they pay their “talent”. Their excuse is that if the competition knew, then the BBC would lose its staff. Of course this is pure rubbish. Likewise, we also know that the BBC doesn’t publish the expenses of their “talent”. But they are quite happy to talk about MPs expenses, even if the investigation was done by the Daily Telegraph. Finally, the BBC also does not allow the NAO to look at its book like all other publicly-funded bodies. There appears to be no justification for this which then leads me to believe that the BBC’s books are suspect.

    I would therefore like to appeal to people who work in the Finance/Accounting departments of the BBC or readers here who have friends working in these departments: Please become a whistle-blower & expose any information that you can on the BBC “talent”. It is a public body like any other tax-payer funded body & it’s only right that the British public who pay for it, get to know how much the “talent” is paid & how much expenses they claim. Such actions are fraught with much danger. But I urge you to think of Jimmy Saville & how he was able to get away with his deeds. We must never allow this to happen again.

    Thank you.

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    • Lynette says:

      I think writing to local MP’s helps . Even if they are not particularly interested in the BBC they have to make enquiries on the constituents behalf as the BBC is publically funded . My local MP didnot want to get involved in the details but he did get the BBC to answer my complaints .

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      • Steve says:

        No offence. But I think you’re going to see how incompetent MPs are when they have G. Entwistle in front of the CMS Select Committee. They won’t ask a single question that is relevant. And his answer for all questions will be, “wait for the report of the 2 inquiries”.
        These are the same MPs who had a right go at the “devil incarnate” himself, Rupert Murdoch.
        Last year, the previous DG thought it was very clever of him to put “talent” remuneration into bands. But that has told us nothing. And unless we get a whistleblower from the BBC, we will never know how much the Dimbleby brothers have been taking for almost 50 years from the BBC. Imagine any other organisation where this can happen.

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    • TigerOC says:

      On this very subject, did anyone see Top Gear last night?

      James May visited Chris Evans at his home and there was a stable of Ferrari cars worth many millions. The one he drove alone was worth $5m.

      If Chris Evans can spend this amount on toys, one can only imagine what he earns.

      This is absolutely obscene and needs answering.

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  2. Span Ows says:

    I’m trying to read comments on the previous Open Thread but keep getting diverted here.

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  3. Louis Robinson says:

    In a fascinating edition of the “Moral Maze” on the subject of the monster Jimmy Savile – as far I heard – the letters B-B-C were absent from any mention. Funny that.

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  4. Deborah says:

    On Friday 6pm news Fiona Bruce reported on the bomb that had gone off in ‘the Christian quarter of Beirut’. What was obvious was the speed it was read, with as little detail as possible and no film or interview. It was obvious that the BBC thought it was another story of Muslims killing Christians and needed as little detail as possible. Both the story before and the story after were read much more slowly.

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    • The Highland Rebel says:

      Like it was the Christians own fault that they were being mown down in the street in Cairo or butchered in Nigeria.

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      • McClane says:

        It was the Soviet Union that fixed the borders in eastern Europe after 1945 (this is not an apologia for the USSR). It was the EU that fixed the borders in eastern Europe after 1990 (this is not an apologia for the EU).

        But it was the Assad family that created and maintained a secular Syrian republic. Which the BBC, caught up in its (now failed) Arab Spring rhetoric fails to recognise.

        If the SFA wins, Christians will leave, Jews will leave, Muslims will fragment into Sunnis or Shiites , Alawites will die. Syria will be poor.

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        • RCE says:

          There you go again. Haven’t you learned by now that the left don’t do ‘consequences’?

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  5. GCooper says:

    Loving, positively drooling, images of the ‘Tory Coots’ marches all over the BBC today.

    News management by means of selective reporting again, chaps. Is there a module on it at your laughable ‘college’ of journalism, or do just assume your graduate intake has already been sufficiently indoctrinated to ‘just know’ what to do?

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    • Guest Who says:

      ‘News management by means of selective reporting again’
      It’s getting beyond a joke across the entire MSM.
      SKY news had some accented man of the people reporter standing in front of No 10 (for no evident reason) to inform us that the government is full of ex-public schoolboys ‘who wouldn’t know what it is to shop in Sainsbury’s’.
      While it may be true that Westminster is full of political obsessive wonks from parties and media who couldn’t find their wallets if they tried, such idiotic class war rhetoric to serve a bit of Tory toff government bashing is risible.
      And beyond a joke. Ministers swapping the limo for a Polo to do a mea culpa. Dave using EasyJet rather than a solid gold helicopter. Gordo sunning himself in his suit on ‘holiday’ in the Gorbals. Chuckusyermunny swapping from Saville Row to Primark seamslessly between photo ops.
      This is what politics has been reduced to, with media ‘reporting’, in ‘outrage’, depending on tribal fealty.
      This ex-public schoolboy is later on driving his R-reg Golf with his current public school sons to do the Sunday shop at Lidl.
      The only people who are ‘out of touch’ are the media twats who live in £3M terraced houses in Islington and presume to speak for the country.
      And are vastly paid to do so with zero accuracy, competence, integrity and professionalism. In some cases, via zero-choice compulsion.

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      • Frank Words says:

        “Shop at Sainsburys”!!

        Tells us something about this man of the people.

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        • RCE says:

          Quite!

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        • Guest Who says:

          ‘this man of the people’
          That’s God’s own people, mind.
          And plucked from media obscurity for various talents, of which I am not sure impartiality is one (perfect then for a luvvie political reporter), this is he:
          Tadhg Enright‏@TadhgEnrightSky
          Is Mitt Romney running the #xfactor hotel or something?

          A welcome berth any time awaits chez Aunty one presumes?
          Guessing if he is spinning Sainsbury’s as the lowest of the low (strong memo from Justin King if they expect him to be flogging spuds on their ‘business’ slot anytime soon), it’s evidently been a while since he strayed further than the comfort zone of the inner congestion zone in a while.

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        • Pah says:

          No self respecting Tory would shop at Sainsburys, surely? It’s owned by a champagne socialist!

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          • Frank Words says:

            It is the “grocer” of choice for the Islington and Hampstead Progressive elite.

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            • London Calling says:

              I don’t frequent Hampstead but Islington has a Sainsbury and a Waitrose opposite each other at the main junction with Upper St. I hesitate to say it but I hazzard the Socialist footfall errs in favour of Waitrose. Better choice of champagne.

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      • Doublethinker says:

        It is extraordinary that the BBC et al are able to force the resignation of Mitchell for using a bit of bad language. The BBC can make or break whomever they dislike and of course boost up those they do like.
        Whilst we on this site agree their power needs to be drastically reduced, the overwhelming majority of the British people don’t seem to see the BBC as we all do. They still seem to regard the BBC as the benign organisation it was decades ago. Why do they think that ? Don’t they care about what the BBC has done ? Or is the BBC so powerful that it has slowly changed the views of the majority of the British people so that their values are now in line with its own.

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        • Doyle says:

          Yep, the proles regard the BBC as dear old auntie, now if they were to see the bbc as sinister uncle beeb, the child catching paedophile, the facilitator of child abuse, then things could change.

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        • Wild says:

          “the overwhelming majority of the British people don’t seem to see the BBC as we all do.”

          The only way to test that claim is to give people the freedom to choose.

          Giving people a choice – what a radical idea. No wonder the BBC want to ban the concept.

          What is the circulation of The Guardian newspaper in ratio to the rest of the UK population?

          Is it 1:1?

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        • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

          The truth is they just don’t realise how the INBBC is distorting their view of reality. Vast numbers of them rely simply on the INBBC, or that combined with the mirror. It’s a toxic mix of propaganda of which you are unable to convince them. It WILL change slowly as the generations grow up with the info from the net, but too late to save our country from the useless tories or liebor.

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    • chrisH says:

      Didn`t get to hear how many “activists and concerned union types” attended the “rally”.
      Million Person March was it-what do the Police federation say-it`ll be bound to be the same figure as what the BBC., the Observer and the Labour Party say anyhow!
      Looked at least half a million to me…that OK then?

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      • Guest Who says:

        The BBC could run with ‘Death by a Million Cuts Headlines’, as they may well be able to substantiate those from their own archive.

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      • The Highland Rebel says:

        I wonder how many of these marchers actually work and contribute to the country and economy.
        Yet it’s always gimme, gimme, gimme, take,take, take from the sweat of those who actually have to work for a living.

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        • Sir Arthur Strebe-Grebling says:

          A lot of the marchers seemed to be teachers. They have become increasingly militant recently as the government has finally rumbled that for the last 30 or 40 years they have been dragging this country down with dumbed-down child-centred ‘teaching’, aimed at boosting the self-esteem of the kids and giving the teachers an easy life, not to mention their socialist indoctrination of our youngsters.
          It is no surprise that more than half of the membership of the Labour Party are teachers.

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          • Earls court says:

            The worst teachers are the ones in higher education. I know this from experience from being at the same college as John Prescott.
            The ‘teachers’ I had were all self-loathing, mentally challenged cowards, who would be unemployable anywhere else.

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          • chrisH says:

            Are you sure?
            Teachers would rather walk to work/to demonstrate on a weekday, so as to get paid for not working at school(well, not doling out Whitehall worksheets or watching STD videos at our expense-if work is what that is).
            Teachers are Blairs creatures who are house trained on old Guardians. They resent not being able to read the T.E.S adverts for Condom Facilitating Coordination posts, so merely get passed along the generation Game belt like the last chicken in the shop.
            Any real teacher would have left education after Kenneth Baker in 1988-or gone private.
            These union ciphers and muppets have “fascilitated” (as in Fascist Dez!) the dumbards that make up Dimbleby Sheep for any passing OB van-poor sods who gave us them are just as thick, sad to say!
            Hence thirty weirdos listening to Weirdo Number 1(Miliband Minor) can be rounded up to half a million or whatever Yvette Cooper says it was…just numbers mate, and the taxpayer can stump up…or mop up with the Guardian incontinence pads, as made for Blue Peter.

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              • Earls court says:

                good film even though it American and has an advert at the end for the people who maded it.

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            • Ian Hills says:

              As well as retards in the teaching profession, Labour depends on psychopathic nurses (although they call it the Liverpool Care Pathway) in the NHS.

              The first lot brainwash your kids and the second lot kill your parents.

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              • Earls court says:

                Don’t forget social workers. A bunch of self-loathing people, who have mood swings.

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                • Ken Hall says:

                  .. and they facilitate child abuse, so long as the abuser is Muslim…. or one of their own.

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        • TigerOC says:

          If they really worked, as most of us do, they wouldn’t have time to protest. Free time would be spent resting or enjoying the small amount of money we really did earn.

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  6. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Mark Mardell is very concerned that the President doesn’t seem to have any real Plan For Us to offer for His next term of rule. But not to worry: it’s not His fault, you see. Mardell is ever ready with the excuses, and this time is no exception.

    The President doesn’t have to offer anything new, because He’ll have to face a Republican-led House of Reps., and so won’t be able to accomplish much. I guess that’s why Mardell is so busy fact-checking every single thing Romney says, practically to the point of questioning if he got his kids’ names right, yet not a single eyebrow raised at anything the President has said.

    I actually laughed out loud at how Mardell calls out his friends in the US media for not noticing this until now, acting as if he’s seen the problem for quite some time. When did he report it, then? Where was his “No Substance” blogpost about it two weeks ago after we all noticed it during the first debate? Did he commiserate about it with Bacon or something and I missed it? What about after the second (presidential) debate, when all the President could do was repeat stale talking points about green jobs and investing in bridges and roads? It was blatantly obvious then as well, yet Mardell somehow didn’t see a reason to mention it until now?

    He also gives us a heads up that there will be more fact-checking of Romney (using only the most impeccable of sources, I’m sure) will be coming soon. As for fact-checking the President, Zzzzzzzzzzz.

    Still, the BBC’s US President editor admits he’s worried, has never seen an incumbent run on “More of the Same” like this before. It’s especially jarring to him because in 2008 it was all about Hope ‘n Change. He knows it’s a problem, and so must find excuses for it, which he does.

    Axelrod and the other campaign geniuses have assured reporters that they’ll get right on fixing that. So now the President’s campaign is in disarray, having to revamp, rethink, and it’s not a big story, relegated to a blogpost? I wonder if this same magnificent candidate who was lauded for having run a near-perfect campaign in 2008 is suffering from the failure of the mere mortals who run it this time around. That’ll be the next excuse.

    Mardell closes with another knee-slapper:

    On the one hand, there is a refreshing candour in a politician admitting what is often the truth – what you’ve seen is what you’ll get – and African-Americans in particular are open to the idea that progress is a slow painful slog best stripped of fancy gimmicks.

    What you see is what you’ll get with this President? Not with this President, if the last five years is anything to go by. Mardell knows this is not looking good, but still grasps at any old excuse and passes it off as analysis.

    Remember, no matter what happens, it’s not His fault.

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    • Zemplar says:

      Bathhouse Barry will lose, and lose big.

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      • John Anderson says:

        Gallup today is still shpowing a 7-point lead for Romney. So that’s a big Gallup lead for 4 days now. Clearly Obama got no real bounce from the second debate. The Romney campaign is now moving resources into states that were previously regarded as unwinnable.

        I would not be surprised if this did not turn into a landslide result – barring any late-October surprises. And the Dems could lose several Senate seats, though probably not enough to prevent filibustering.

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  7. Alex says:

    There has never been a more appropriate time for this website. The BBC are on an all-out assault to destroy the Tories and eradicate Right-wing ideology from the land. The BBC’s website is packed to the hilt with Labour, SNP and socialist union propaganda; it’s simply out of control; the BBC have dropped any pretenses of being impartial . Even BBC comedy programs such as HIGNFY have been usurped and moulded into political weapons to indoctrinate the lefty students of this country. My friends, as respectable dwellers of the centre-right I fear we are losing the battle for Britain against the socialist and Left.

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    • The Highland Rebel says:

      This kind of action is normal during the death throes of any organism, Alex.

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      • MD says:

        I agree it is, but is is also common in organisations becoming more confident and outspoken. Are we witnessing further confidence or the last feverish death throes? Unfortunately I don’t think it’s the death throes.

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      • Leha says:

        new media will thankfully be the death of old “auntie” but the wealthy dowager wont lie in her box quietly unless we choke off the source of her power – our hard earned money.

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        • Guest Who says:

          ‘choke off the source of her power – our hard earned money.’
          Tricky still when the establishment deems failure to pay the licence poll tax a crime greater than many others, and I doubt one’s name even would be treated with the same concern for legal niceties as those accused of or even being hunted for abduction or murder.
          So they are probably feeling pretty unaccountable still. For now.

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          • scrappysoo says:

            “Tricky still when the establishment deems failure to pay the licence poll tax a crime greater than many others…”

            You seem to be saying that no one can live without television. If you feel so strongly, as most seem to on this sight, get rid of the telly (or as I have explained previously, disconect the aerial and de-tune it and keep it for watching DVD’s etc.) and kick em where it hurts by not buying a tv license. You can still listen to the radio legally without any license (this must all sound like Stalinist Russia to anyone outside the U.K. )

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            • Guest Who says:

              ‘You seem to be saying that no one can live without television.’
              If I gave this impression I can only apologise, because if asked I would say anything but.
              Of course, anyone can live without TV, and did until only a few decades ago. Which rather stuffs all those who try and equate the BBC public ‘service’ with Health or Education when it come to taxable funding. No one died of missing an EastEnders episode, though a few Vine tweets or Mason ‘analyses’ might well be shown to have been lethal.
              However, this is Planet Earth in the noughties, and with a fairly well-adjusted family of four, including two teenagers, I choose to opt to watch TV because it is entertaining.
              Indeed the non-BBC bits also seem to often be educational and informative, as my main channels appear to be the SKY docos. Plus some space & cop soaps to veg to.
              What I feel strongly about is being compelled to pay a fee for having an instrument that can receive a broadcast signal, to uniquely fund the output and lifestyle choices of those whose mindsets seem pretty much counter to my own. In fact, who often seem dedicated to spoiling my day.
              So skulking behind a door with an ‘implied right of access denied’ sign hoping the Capita thug doesn’t catch a dozy son when I am out simply won’t cut it. Or hiding in the loft with the crystal receiver hoping for the Overlord code.
              I would like to opt for what broadcast content I get, by subscription or ad-eyeballs, such that those who deliver a service I like get my support, and those that don’t can wonder why they are out of a job.
              As opposed to what I currently have, with BBC CECUTT telling me they are trying to ban me from expressing concerns because they don’t have any legitimate ways to explain themselves, and propaganda backed by censorship seems to have worked for them so far.
              This of course may change.
              It certainly needs to.

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    • Patrick says:

      What you say is very true, but I wonder whether the fallout from the Savile revelations may provide an “end of Berlin wall” scenario, with very sudden implosion of the BBC? If the issues on abuse go wider than just Savile, the BBC will be exposed to far more serious issues than Leveson. Wishful thinking perhaps, but the present BBC model is unsustainable.

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      • David Preiser (USA) says:

        I don’t know about that. The more institutions caught in this sick fiddlers’ web, the better the BBC’s sick “Just caught up in the times, guv” excuse will work for them.

        It’s also important to remember that the BBC is doing its own smokescreen enquiries. First, they will attempt to prove that there was no undue influence on Rippon to pull the Savile expose. Well, we already know the result of that, don’t we? Then, if they can show that the Corporation has changed and put into place all sorts of workplace harassment, anti-bullying, anti-racism, anti-whatever rules, they’ll feel clean.

        “The BBC Executive Board and I have, therefore, ordered an immediate independent enquiry led by an external expert into whether there were any failings in the BBC management of the Newsnight investigation.

        “The board has also set up an enquiry – once the police have indicated they are happy for it to proceed – into the culture and practices of the BBC during the years that Jimmy Savile worked here, and afterwards.

        “It will examine whether that culture and those practices allowed him or others to carry out the sexual abuse of children. It will also examine whether the BBC’s child protection, whistleblowing, and bullying and harassment policies and practices are now fit for purpose; and whether there are any lessons from the illegal activities of Jimmy Savile or others for the BBC today in its operation of these policies and practices. We will, of course, share any lessons with all interested parties.”

        Of course they will.

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    • Deborah says:

      Yes I had thought HIGNFY was the last bastion of least bias on the BBC but after the last couple of weeks I think I will have to give up on it too.

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  8. Rich Tee says:

    A few days ago I was watching BBC Breakfast when they started an interview with the author of a new book called “The End of Men”.

    I had to turn it off.

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    • wallygreeninker says:

      You’re lucky, if you’d listened to Radio 3’s Wedneday Nightwaves you would have heard the author, Hanna Rosen, arguing that women are out-performing men in practically every significant sphere of life – she’s not a feminist, apparently -just stating the situation as it is. A glutton for punishment who carried on listening to the programme would have been treated to a discussion on the problem of climate change deniers, seen from a psychoanalytic and interdisciplinary perspective.

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      • Guest Who says:

        ‘women are out-performing men in practically every significant sphere of life’
        I wonder if that includes the world of media, especially uniquely-funded ones, as it would appear being chromosomallyy-challenged can lead to discriminatory practices.

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      • wallygreeninker says:

        Her name is, in fact, Hannah Rosin. I thought I’d check iplayer and Philip Dodd’s exact words were: “According to Hannah Rosin we are at an unprecedented moment in world history -by almost every measure women are out-performing men: women dominate in colleges and educational schools in every continent except Africa. More than a third of Mothers in the UK and US are the family’s main breadwinner.”

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      • Richard Pinder says:

        Well there are more than twice as many male Mensa members that female Mensa members. Also there has been an increase in the ratio of men on University Challenge. Last week all eight contestants where white males. Apparently the reason seams to be a change in the way they are selected. More and more of the teams are selected by merit unlike the recent past. The increase in selection of the four members of the team by a competitive college/university pub quiz, leading to the four top competitors being selected for the college/university team, means that ethnics and women find it very difficult to get on to these teams. But there are some brilliant ladies such as Donna Laframboise, Judith Curry and Melanie Phillips. And I also personally have experience of some rather clever ladies in the space special interest group of Mensa who have recently become climate sceptics

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  9. Phil Space says:

    The difficulty for the BBC is that they buy so heavily into the agenda of the left on almost every aspect including climate change, public spending, welfare, multiculturalism, Europe, taxation, and diversity to name a few that it is impossible to report in an impartial manner. They inherently believe that the agenda of the left is ‘good’. The BBC constantly hammers out its repetitive, nauseating left wing inspired narrative. There develops from this a sense of self-righteousness which is then used to batter any opposing opinion and ensures that you will not see or hear the faintest hint of impartiality, or even an atomic modicum of balance brought to any item on the agenda.

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    • Framer says:

      Indeed. Have a listen to any of the commentaries on ‘How do you think you are?’ Uniformly leftist with no consideration for changed times and different mores in the 17th century in England for example.
      And that is before the particular starlet or sportsman is chosen in the sure and certain knowledge their ancestors had a hard time from the forces of the right, the rich and the racist.
      Or all three in the case of Zoe Wanamaker whose progressive innocent dad just happened to be in the CPUSA.

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      • Stewart S says:

        But did you see the one with David Tennant?
        It was classic he obviously thought thought he was descended from those brave republican boys. And had been dinning out on it in Hampsted for years.(I bet the other lefty luvvies lapped it up to)
        Imagine his despair and consternation when he found out grandma and grandpa Tennant where unionist covenanters .He couldn’t keep it from showing either,despite his acting skills.
        My wife and daughter are in no way politicos, but even they were helpless with laughter.

        Ulster-Scots – Library : David Hume: The Magheramorne Covenanter

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        • Robin Rose says:

          Yes, I saw that one, it was hilarious, the poor dear was completely deflated at the dreadful news that he was descended from patriotic unionists. The shame of it!

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  10. Guest Who says:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/jimmy-savile/9623109/Jimmy-Savile-Secret-of-BBCs-first-sex-scandal.html
    ‘ The BBC launched an independent inquiry led by a QC.

    The conclusions of that inquiry have remained locked away for four decades. ‘
    That seems to happen a fair bit.
    Fills you with confidence this time too.

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  11. London Calling says:

    Briefly tuned to Any Questions to hear Farage rubbishing wind turbines – facts and figures rolling off his tongue – great! But whats this? Cat calls coming from the audience, they not like claims like 12% increase in energy bills due to green nonsense. The game was given away by the next speaker – FFS – Bob Crow !- whose every ridiculous statement was cheered on by the audience packed with his Trotskyist supporters. Red and Green, all the same stripe. Dimbleby kept butting in like he was a panellist not a chairman. Horrible experience, thank God for the off switch. And we PAY for this?

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    • johnnythefish says:

      An independent inquiry into how the BBC selects its studio audiences.

      Now that would be interesting.

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      • Frank Words says:

        I think I read somewhere, perhaps on this very site, that the BBC vet the applications for tickets to AQ and QT.

        Can anyone cast light on this.

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        • Deborah says:

          certainly a friend who managed to get a ticket for QT was told there were 10x the number of applications as there were tickets available. She was asked her political leanings as an ex-Labour activist who was fed up with them (she was a Blair lover rather than a Brown one) and included in her application that she would not now be voting Labour. She had to submit on line her questions that she would like to ask. She had to give her phone number and was ‘interviewed’ by someone from the production team to ensure that she was as she claimed. On the night apparently the audience were asked to submit their most current questions and 10 were then picked and told that half of them would be invited to ask their question. As a Labour activist (I think she is back politicing but as my politics are different she keeps quiet about what she is up to).

          My friend (as her politics betray) is naive in the extreme – and explained that this intensive interviewing and vetting was to ensure an unbiased programme. Some of us here would think differently.

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        • David Preiser (USA) says:

          Here’s the form you have to fill out and the personal political information you have to give them so they can select a “balanced” audience. Notice the curious selection of specific issues they mix in with the general stuff. As if your position on Afghanistan and the EU will totally reflect all your other views. Imagine the discussion: “Too many supporters of an illegal war have applied already from Slough, so we can’t let this guy through as this week’s topics will most likely be schools, Savile, the NHS, and elected police commissioners.”

          If you pass the capricious, emotion-based standard being used to pick that week’s audience, they call you up to vet you further. In some cases, they tell you to come up with a different question or you won’t be allowed in. At least two people here have reported this experience.

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          • Wild says:

            It seems that the BBC take a great deal of trouble to be so biased.

            From the clapping the Question Time audience is consistently 70% Left (presumably made up of Labour/Liberal Party activists and public sector trade unionists judging by what they say when they are given an opportunity to speak.

            When I watch Question Time I notice that the same seating blocks of political allegiance crop up in every programme. The public sector unions are always heavily over-represented in the middle section, with blocks of Leftists in the front two rows at the front on either side. A small group of Conservative Party members are placed at the back on the right relative to the panel, and a few rows back from the front on the Left. There even seems to be a seating pattern for skin colour!

            If I was the BBC I would stop panning back when the audience clap because the various voting blocks (and the predominance of the Left) become obvious.

            You only have to look at the bias in the panel selection (the Left invariably in the majority) to know the whole exercise is rigged.

            The BBC are about as politically trustworthy as an expenses claim by an MP – indeed less trustworthy because the BBC like much of the bloated public sector are not required to justify themselves by being subject to market forces – which is another way of saying that Leftists invariably take away your freedom of choice and seek to instruct you in correct Party thinking.

               29 likes

          • Alex says:

            I notice on the form, David, that they have Sinn Fein, but no BNP. Hardly democratic!

               17 likes

            • Doyle says:

              Yep, that’s odd isn’t it Alex especially when you consider that the BNP polled more votes than the SNP, Plaid, Respect, Green, Sinn Fein, Ulster Unionist, Democratic Unionist, SDLP, Alliance …

                 18 likes

          • Mike Fowle says:

            That’s very interesting. I thought it was all arranged but didn’t realise it was so blatant and so restrictive. Thanks for the info.

               5 likes

    • Abso Vicar says:

      It’s how it all started in Germany in the 30’s.

         8 likes

    • Robin Rose says:

      I heard a few minutes of this programme, that’s all I can stomach usually. I must confess I had never actually heard the “Socialist/Communist” Bob Crowe (salary £100,000+) speak at any length before. I was genuinely surprised at just how stupid he was. The man is an absolute cretin. At the same time he was supporting “green energy” such as useless windmills, he was bemoaning the fact that Britain has 300 years of coal left unused. He was actually too stupid to see any contradiction there. This is the moron who wants to lead British plebs on a general strike. You couldn’t make it up.

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  12. noggin says:

    SML do we have the right to offend? oooohh! brother
    is al bbc refering any ideology we could mention?
    i thought al bbc had already decided anyway?

    as i caught the ad, it appears we have the ahem …
    “pleasure” of the views of bonnie greer (wretch, wretch)
    looks like ten minutes of everyones life they ll never get back. ;-D

       11 likes

    • noggin says:

      i didn t check … is nick griffin on 😀 ?
      didn t think so … so why do we have to listen to the views of the MCB so often then?

         17 likes

    • Doyle says:

      Sunday seems to be one of the worst days for bias, (and Newsnight isn’t even on) maybe they think they can get away with it because no-ones watching.

         9 likes

      • noggin says:

        slight confusion read “germaine” not
        bonny greer – same result, (wretch gag wretch 😀 ) …
        hmmm is she still “drawing a veil”
        (sorry 😀 ) over fgm? as a ahem! “cultural” phenom i wonder?

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      • Doyle says:

        I don’t usually reply to my own posts but I will on this occasion – BBC 1 today – Breakfast (so-called ‘news’), Andrew Marr Show (the a-z of bias), Sunday Morning Live (even worse bias), Exiled: The Ugandan Asian Story (pro immigration, pro multi-culturalism bias), Country Tracks (green/global warming bollocks), Songs Of Praise (wishy-washy liberalism), Countryfile (climate change lies) and Andrew Marr’s History of the World (complete and utter bullshit). I’ve not even included the news (more bias), Strictly Come Dancing/Graham Norton (pro-gay bias) or Holby City (crappy drama with an agenda). By my reckoning that’s a good 9 hours of bias or more than a third of the day. And before any of the usual suspects say I’m a Tory and I would say that; I’ve never voted Conservative in my life and I never will.

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        • London Calling says:

          I was with you up to the last line but one. I am not ashamed to say I have voted for virtually every Party at one time or another. There was no special wisdom in my party allegiance age 20. People say they have “always been Labour” like it was a mark of integrity, and not what it is, a mark of crass stupidity or intellectual laziness.
          They say you should change your Party like you should change your underwear – when it starts to smell.
          Unfortunately Conservative now belongs in the laundry bin.

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          • tinks says:

            Totally agree, no party should ever be able to take a vote for granted. That is part of the problem and why they act with such arrogance and contempt of voters.

            To ‘always vote X, Y, Z’ is really a clear sign of brainwashing or the height of stupidity.

            Imagine the political landscape if there were no safe seats, and an election wasn’t actually decided on 15-20% of them.

            Time for a revolution?

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  13. royof the rovers says:

    its a pity sky doesnt put the boot in and ask serious questions about the dear old beeb.
    How about a list of things in the charter that the bbc have broken for a start.If it could be proved that they have done this then by law they have no remit to ask for payment.
    pity no-one who has been taken to court has used the evidence as reasons for non payment

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  14. royof the rovers says:

    just a thought about mrs e.rantzen was the 250,000 retainer by the beeb hush money for what she knew about our jimmy?

       30 likes

  15. Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

    Well well, our shami is back, on macaulay culkins show, along with dan snow. Going to get a real fest of right wing comment then!

       22 likes

    • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

      Oh classic slip: naga just handed over to marr and he said to her: “thanks shami…errrrrr…oh…shami is in the studio”
      laugh?

         16 likes

  16. Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

    Greg Dyke’s on marr now, his advive to entwhistle?…lots of it…..was telling the truth in there?…nope!

       20 likes

    • #88 says:

      I saw that. Let’s all circle the wagons seems to be the message.

      Dan Snow was claiming that the Govt was using announcements on Luara Norder, tactically to deflect from their own troubles.

      Then, when discussing Savile, they start dragging others in like the nasty Tories (no doubt tactically – to deflect others from their own troubles). And worse, Snow would have you believe that the BBC is a victim, with everyone piling in to attack them.

      I think in everyone one of Chakrabarti’s contributions, she managed to have a dig at the Government. It’s amazing that she sits there, straight faced in her sanctimonius, self-importance, as biased as it’s possible to be.

      Last week, I predicted that the Tories would be caught in this sort of firestorm, as a distraction from Savile. I also think that Cameron is paying the price for what most people (except the grudging Allegra Stratton) said was an excellent conference speech and improving poll ratings. Clearly the left were never going to let him get away such an outrage.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Greg Dyke’s opinion on outsider investigations into the BBC is worth what, exactly? Remember his initial response to Hutton?

      BBC director general Greg Dyke has acted to contain a possible outbreak of Hutton hysteria by warning there will be “no scapegoating within the BBC” as a result of the report into the death of weapons inspector David Kelly.

      In a clear attempt to pre-empt a barrage of critical stories in the run up to the report’s publication, Mr Dyke today took the unusual step of emailing all staff to appeal for calm.

      And in a sign of the robust defence he is planning, he indicated he would only be acting on Hutton criticism he accepted as reasonable.

      “What is important once Hutton is published is that if the BBC is criticised we learn from whatever is written – assuming of course that we agree with what is said,” Mr Dyke told staff.

      In line with an interview in December suggesting there would be no senior resignations, Mr Dyke reassured staff there would no sacrificial lambs.

      Of course, he turned out to be the scapegoat. BBC insiders probably still resent that. Poor old Entwistle. Job of a lifetime, and it’s a poisoned chalice.

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  17. jarwill101 says:

    Apologies if this link has already been posted, but it may explain Andrew Marr turning to drink & loitering in dark Soho streets after realising he’s given birth to a rather large pre-Christmas turkey.

    http://www.spiked-online.com/site/article/13002/

       12 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      Seems his ‘professed intelligence’ may be more a result of the BBC again telling us stuff over and over until it becomes ‘true’.
      ‘scores a not-too-shabby one out of three’
      Call it £100 they now owe us per annum then?

         12 likes

      • chrisH says:

        If Andrew Marr is your intellectual that is entrusted to tell the rest of us about the “History of The World”, then you can see just how shallow the BBCs “pool of talent” is.
        Appalling crap-just an excuse for bloody am-dram re-enactments. The race lobby really should look at how he portrays his collection of Fu Manchus etc….Black and White Minstrels is far less “racist”.
        Of course Marr is the one who paid for kids that weren`t his-Blunkett style-but had loads of dosh to pony up for super-injunctions to prevent us knowing.
        The BBC defended his grotesque salary by saying that he “wrote his own scripts”….mon Dieu!
        Maybe he colours in his own pictures of Asian villains-in which case, I`d be removing all those shades of ochre from his felt tips-he`ll get the BBC into trouble if Lee Jaspers ever finds out!

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  18. George R says:

    ‘New York Post’ on :

    – Mark Thompson and ‘New York Times’:-

    “A burgeoning molestation scandal across the pond may have New York Times Chairman Arthur Sulzberger Jr. wishing he had looked closer to home to fill the CEO spot.

    “Mark Thompson, the former head of the British Broadcasting Corp., is slated to take over the troubled broadsheet next month, but cover-up allegations are swirling about his role in an investigation into a popular television personality.”

    “Times exec eyed in BBC scandal.
    ‘Molest cover-up’ probe snares new CEO.”

    By KEITH J. KELLY.

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/times_exec_eyed_in_bbc_scandal_kKq5HvS5umb9HH9ohPYN5K?utm_medium=rss&utm_content=Business

       22 likes

  19. Wild says:

    At the time of the 1997 Labour Party election victory (when David Dimbleby was told by his producer not to mention [he ignored him] that the spontaneous and joyful crowd along Downing Street was in fact a stage managed mass of Labour Party activists) I recall a commentator pointing out that that after the collapse of Communism in 1989 it was necessary for the people of this country to have a (it turned out to be three) high tax, centrally directed, high spending, Labour governments in order that they may fully comprehend that (Stalinism-Lite) Democratic Socialism is intellectually and morally bankrupt.

    It had to be demonstrated (rather than simply predicted) that greater control and ever higher spending by an authoritarian State would lead to national decline rather than national regeneration. That Social Democracy (just like Stalinism) served the interests of a self-serving Leftist elite and nobody else. That the country would eventually go bankrupt.

    Notwithstanding the efforts of the BBC to ignore the arrogance and greed of the Leftist establishment, notwithstanding the fact that the BBC refused to discuss any realities (dependency culture – grade inflation – EU corruption – the nihilism of mass [in particular Muslim] unintegrated immigration, and the economic damage caused by high taxes) which challenged its intellectually bankrupt agenda, the commentator I mentioned (whoever he was – I do not recall) proved to be entirely correct, became EVERYBODY is now is fully aware of the failures of the Social Democratic project.

    Yet the BBC still keep pushing the same Social Democratic agenda. They are still telling you what to say and think – a correct thought being whatever serves the interests of the Leftist establishment. They still seek to forbid incorrect thoughts – an incorrect thought being any thought which conflicts with the Party line. They seek nothing less than ideological uniformity.

    There is therefore a major disconnect between the Labour supporting BBC and the serfs it tax farms to pay for its Leftist shit. The tension between them has been building up for many years, but the BBC cannot change. To acknowledge the failure of socialism is to cut its own throat.

    The BBC show not the slightest concerned about the damage to our free society which they are causing, because they were never in favour of a free society in the first place.

    For the BBC attitude just look at the tone of its defenders on here. It amounts to – how dare Daily Mail readers and Sun readers and Daily Telegraph readers (indeed anybody who is not a Labour Party supporter) have an opinion!

    As I say, the tension has building up for many years now, and I am pretty sure I am not I am not the only person who has had enough.

    Since when do I hold my country so cheap that when you destroy its freedoms you expect me to just to write a letter to The Times!

    I appreciate that elections are a dangerous time. There is always a risk that people might not vote for the Labour Party, and so the BBC does its best to re-educate voters.

    The BBC is essentially a media factory of disinformation, and spin, and propaganda, in the service of an entirely self-interested cause.

    So what price our freedom of choice? What price our free society? If the Stalinists at the BBC continue to refuse to give me the choice not to fund them, what will get their attention I wonder?

       60 likes

  20. Now is the time for all good men to cancel your direct debits to Capita (TV Licensing), stick “implied right of access denied” notices outside your front doors and carry on as before, but £146.50 better off.

    Geeks – licence free for 3 years and lovin’ it.

       25 likes

    • chrisH says:

      You would think that your direct action against “The Man”-especially when it is imposed unfairly and diminishes the life chances of the poor in these straitened times-would ensure that the BBC see you as a true hero of the revolution against stuffint the pockets of grandees and toffs like Patten and Bakewell..wouldn`t you?
      If I were to make a punk record that pretended to be the voice of the streets back in the 70s-about not paying the telly poll tax-and then put it to some angry film of you…might we get a “national consciousness-raising movement” going….with history and destiny assured, a la Occupy, Greenpeace or Plane Stupid.
      “Licence mindless…Licence mindless…yeah, maan?”

         9 likes

  21. As I See It says:

    BBC Parlour Games

    Here at the BBC we like to set up our very own fun and games. We would like to think that everyone at home is joining in with us and playing along.

    You will need:
    A stacked deck of cards
    A brass neck
    £145
    Rules:
    These may seem a little complicated at first but will come naturally to those in the know.
    Trumping is an important part of the game and it is essential that players know the score.
    Scotland trumps England
    North trumps South
    Arabs trump Israel
    Girls trump Boys
    Youth trumps Age & Wisdom (Norman Wisdom is big in Albania)
    Rioters trump Police
    Liverpool Fans trump Police
    Police trump the Tories (Tories are trumped by all players at all times of the night or day)
    Elderly Christians are trumped by the Gays
    Vulnerable white girls are trumped by Muslim immigrants and naturally by BBC presenters (the Police and CPS are of course neutralised by the PC Rule although they will be blamed in this case if at all possible. When absolutely necessary even the NHS may be blamed)
    Clare Balding trumps like a Rugger player after 8 pints
    The EU quietly trumped the Common Market, the Common Market trumps Common Sense and no referendum is ever required
    Tuscany is our dream location for a second home, Germany is double or trumps and Greece is shit or bust
    All immigrants are valuable and count double – except the Ghurkhas
    The Race Card is to be played immediately in all circumstances
    Point Scoring:
    Always use the Some People May Say rule.
    Hints:
    As players become more experienced they will need to refer back to the official scorecard less often and will instead adopt memory techniques of their own such as:
    David Jason was Batman
    Alex Salmond is the Joker
    Jonathon Ross and Russell Brand were just acting Jack the Lad
    The Queen walks backwards when you meet Royalty
    Fix your phone votes, your TV provider may charge more (after 2015)
    Smack the Blue Peter cat, trash the garden but don’t cull the badgers
    Morecombe & Wise, Flannigan & Allen, Flanders & Swann, The Two Ed’s means Go for Growth not Austerity
    Newsnight was spiked, ITV still went ahead, Reagan & Carter, you want Ray Winstone and you get Plan B
    Cameron’s a posh boy, Michael Gove is the Devil Incarnate and we don’t like Jeremy Hunt
    Paul Merton and Ian Hislop are safely on the Payroll so Uncle Mac’s your Uncle – but don’t leave him alone with the Kiddies.

       59 likes

    • chrisH says:

      Quite brilliant sir!
      Any chance that you could get this made as a game and sold for Christmas?
      Include a free Jimmy Savile poster(limited edition) that doubles as something to terrify the kids away from your wine rack!
      I`d buy it!

         24 likes

      • As I See It says:

        Always take care to ask a responsible consenting adult – preferably from the BBC – for help to explain tricky things that you don’t understand. Never run with scissors – it will result in cuts and none of us want to see those. And do please remember to tidy up nicely and pack everything away out of sight after all the fun and games.

           13 likes

    • Asbo Vicar says:

      And badgers, twigs, insects and butterflys trump the vunerable unborn.

         14 likes

  22. Alex says:

    That overweight Scottish windbag has some nerve… and the BBC are lapping it up!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-20020839

    Perhaps, Scotland can defend its own borders, then… with sling shots and bows and arrows!

       8 likes

  23. chrisH says:

    Maybe we could put this on telly-an “It`s a Knockout” format perhaps!
    The Jokers/Trump cards or “shut down debate” cards-unfair, elitist, racist, Islamophobic, homophobic, sexist etc….then minutes of having to wear headphones with the correct message/line to take as you snooze over your sherry later.
    Would also keep the perpetual shire horses stabled and ever ready to be brought round the ring as required by the BBC…fat cats, Oxbridge, privileged toffs, Thatch,devolution,Hillsborough, Leveson etc, etc…and , once again, all bow down to these ” staples of grievances and victimhood”…since 1968.

       10 likes

    • London Calling says:

      If only Armando Ianucci wasn’t such a a leftie-tosser, and there was still some proper comedy writing talent at the bBC, they should be rewriting “Yes Minister” with hapless Jim Hacker surrounded not by Sir Humphrey, but by Greenpeace lobbyists, Renewables shysters, Ministry of Giving Away Money (Overseas Develoment), Climate Astrologists, and Media strategist (vacancy). Satirise the Establishment? Maginot Line, guns facing the wrong way, The Lefties ARE the establishment.

         16 likes

      • Reed says:

        “The Lefties ARE the establishment. ”

        Quite. Now will someone please tell those faux-radical ‘comedians’ who parade their out of date assumptions on every bloody panel show going that Thatcher left office over two decades ago and that the left, via the unions/civil service, has control of pretty much every state institution.

        These so-called cutting-edge humourists are still fighting the battles of 30 years ago, and were doing so even during 13 years of a Labour government…and still they’re not funny.

           18 likes

  24. johnnythefish says:

    If you want a really good laugh, try this (after you’ve stopped shaking your head in incredulity, of course).

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/9621849/Oxbridge-academics-criticise-BBC-over-grammar-school-portrayal.html

    So the next time there is a discussion on the bBBC about the role of education in improving social mobility, just listen up for Naughtie, Webb and co. constantly interrupting some shrill Labour babe and/or Marxist academic with ‘but some would say grammar schools were the greatest motor for social mobility this country has seen, and you got rid of them’.

    (Must do something about those pigs that keep crapping on my roof.)

       19 likes

    • Sir Arthur Strebe-Grebling says:

      It’s a pity that Graham Brady – Chairman of the Conservative backbench 1922 committee – isn’t more vociferous and influential about his sensible pro-grammar school views.

         10 likes

      • Earls court says:

        OMG the left can’t have social mobility with grammer schools and elitism. They would be replaced in the same way the natives have been replaced in employment by mass immigration.

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  25. brian says:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01nd8nt/BBC_London_News_20_10_2012/.

    Was watching London News yesterday and saw an item similar to this. The only difference was on the TV instead of circling down the stairs a fixed camera was showing cyclists bombing down the foot tunnel.

    BBC do seem to turn a blind eye to all wrongdoing by their chosen people.

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  26. Rich Tee says:

    Why don’t we trust politicians? Nick Robinson gets chummy with a “rising star” Labour MP to promote his new book:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/oct/19/why-public-dont-trust-politicians

    Well, they did both do PPE at Oxford so they have a lot in common.

       12 likes

    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Robinson’s defending politicians again? Same thing he did during the initial round of the expenses scandal. He couldn’t stop saying how sad the MPs were, simpering about all the long faces at Westminster because MPs were upset that people didn’t like them. Not once did Robinson act as an advocate for the public. All he did was try to convince everyone that MPs aren’t all evil, and that they felt really bad about it. And he was impartial and balanced in that he was defending all of them, not just those from one side.

      And he had to apologize for protecting Gordon Brown over his fractured relations with Blair, and had to apologize for covering for those who actually were planning a leadership challenge against Brown (he pretended he didn’t know), and on and on.

         11 likes

  27. Doyle says:

    Today at 12:15, Exiled: The Ugandan Asian Story – marking the 40th anniversary of Amin’s expulsion of them (ooh brother) – are we supposed to give thanks that Leicester is full of them or that they gave us Yasmin Alibaba Brown?

       24 likes

    • Reed says:

      …and she’s still ungrateful to this country and it’s people, even today.

         11 likes

    • TigerOC says:

      You do note the irony;

      Their home countries didn’t want/refused to allow them to come back!

      Idi, like many Black revolutionaries of the time, regarded them as the thieving scum that they were.

      Now we are blessed with their gifts.

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  28. chrisH says:

    The Savile story-rolling news 24/7…as it` appens boys and girls(yodels inanely, cigar clamped by dentures)
    Was that Esther Rantzen I just heard?….saying that she was a “JUNIOR” member of staff and feebly unable to tell anyone, do anything about Jimmy Savile?
    Not even to roll over the duvet and tell her hubby Desmond Wilcox?…as if he`d not have guessed himself then?
    Any chance that we give some of our “Children In Need of a Jimmy” money to poor Esther…for is she not too a victim of Savile now as well?
    He must have been a hell of a hypnotist. Foe Esther thinks that the BBC had nothing to do with it-she just didn`t have the contacts, the money, the influence or power to prevent Jimmy in his Beeb Campervan from fooling her and the whole BBC senior management team.
    Impound that old trouts mobility scooter before she leaves the green Room-her Alzheimers from Sept 3rd 2012 could be contagious….let`s not pay the old fool her pension and see if she`s still so clueless then!
    And as Radio 4 played this shite from one of the Beeb shows earlier-I `m sure I heard Andrew Marr making low mooing noises of empathy and concern in between Esthers grotesque shieldings of their BBC nonce.
    Why didn`t they cobble up this crap for Jonathan King then?…who at least gave us 10cc!

       29 likes

    • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

      INBBC has decided that St Esther of Rancid has to be rehabiliated, having hoist herself on her own admission once that she knew about the rumours, they now have to find a way for her to baktrack, and they are ferreting away at it busily.

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    • Frank Words says:

      I will have guess that at the end of this sordid affair very little will have happened. Savile’s dead. A few played out “celebrity” DJ’s may get arrested but more likely there will just be dead people named.

      The BBC will hold an internal whitewash, oops, an inquiry and make recommendations and issue another full and fank apology, George Dogwhistle peeling an onion.

      And that will be it. The establishment do not want this can of toxic waste opened. Too many of them knew what went on and too many were actually involved.

      Dave Dave Cameron is an establishment clown
      and is more concernd with doing the right thing by them than upsetting the apple cart.

      He cannot even see that the progressive left media have been taking evey oppotunity to destabilise the government (I know he gives them plenty of ammunition).

      Even if he did decided on an independent inquiry who could he find to do a proper job.

      I hope I am wrong… but I doubt it.

         21 likes

      • David Preiser (USA) says:

        You’re probably right. Just consider the goals of their own internal inquiries: was there undue influence on the Newsnight producers to can the segment, and has the BBC put in lots of new policies over the years as proof that they’ve already learned the proper lessons?

        You already know the answer to both. Too bad the one lesson they seem not to have learned – and it won’t be part of their internal inquiries – is that it’s bad news when the BBC as a whole leans massively to the Left.

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    • Buggy says:

      Rantzen was presenting “That’s Life” as long ago as 1973 (aged 33) so to describe herself as “a junior” is misleading to put it lightly (or a bloody great lie to be more blunt).

      Odd she seems to have been such a fey lickle thing when confronted with Saville’s peccadilloes, but not quite so retiring when prying Desmond Wilcox away from his first wife, or. as IMDb has it with masterly restraint: “She met her husband Desmond Wilcox in 1968 but did not marry until ten years later.”

         20 likes

      • Ken Hall says:

        She was so formidable, that she used to terrify one of her junior researchers and reduce her to tears…. Not bad considering the shy and retiring junior in question was a certain, Anne Robinson!

        Esther ruled her part of the BBC with a rod of steel. she was no retiring, shy, uncertain wallflower.

        Her excuses now do not hold water. She is the weakest link, goodbye!

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    • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

      Greg Dyke who sat alongside St Esther on marr’s prog, said that of course he wasn’t at the beeb when savile was there ( phew what a relief huh?), but that he knew Bill Cotton who was such a great wonderful upstanding guy that he couldn’t possibly have known anything about saVILE.
      Faultless logic of course, just think last month they were saying the same thing about ST JIMMY!
      And what’s more he kept a straight face while using such shit logic.
      I’m so pleased the plod have turned this into a criminal investigation now that living folk are in the frame. I have a feeling that some of those that live inside that protected, sterile, faultless bubble at the beeb may find it gets pricked! Right now they all think they are immune, but wont be if they get dragged in and get caught up in some lies that lead to a perverting course of justice charge.

         17 likes

  29. As I See It says:

    Statement
    The BBC would like to respond in the most robust of terms to the recent allegations made hereabouts that the popular satirical TV programme Have I Got News For You was guilty of the transmission of a President Obama joke.
    Of course this is a very a serious PC matter and the proper authorities will be looking into it; however, in the meantime the BBC is initiating upwards of several of our own independent internal inquiries. No stone will be left unturned in the search for the panellists on these inquiries. They will be headed up by some very wealthy civil rights QCs and assorted Blairite place people and they will be closely advised by a panel of past, former, sometime and hopeful future BBC employees. All participants will have been on Common Purpose courses and no travel or expenses claims will be refused.

    We are confident that the BBC, BBC management and BBC employees will be completely exonerated – or you won’t hear about it.

    We would like to point out that incidents such as this are, happily, extremely rare in this day and age. Sadly we have to acknowledge that in the past this sort of thing was rife at the BBC – indeed it may have been officially sanctioned by management and was institutionalised. But we must stress that this was a societal problem. To be frank there was a time when it used to be perfectly acceptable to make jokes about President George Bush.
    We reiterate: Humour at the expense of President Obama will not be tolerated at the BBC.

    We would also like to quash rumours that HIGNFY has become a played out self-serving parody of itself and that Newsnight is just like the Guardian with moving pictures. Although, we don’t mind that second thing.

    We also take this opportunity to apologise for the hour long last episode of The Think Of It. It wasn’t funny and it wasn’t clever. However, at least we can claim that we upset Leveson just a little bit – which is important for our future dominant position in British and European broadcasting.

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  30. George R says:

    LIBYA.
    Of course, Bowen’s now inclined to support present militia killer-gangs there, rather than Gaddafi killer-gangs.

    “Libya Gaddafi death anniversary: Unfinished business”
    By Jeremy Bowen
    BBC Middle East editor.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-20014801

    Of all the obvious problems of present-day ungovernable Libya, Bowen manages NOT to mention the problem of Islam:

    “Libya’s Grand Mufti: Remove references to democracy and religious freedom from school textbooks.”

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/10/libyas-grand-mufti-remove-references-to-democracy-and-religious-freedom-from-school-textbooks.html

       12 likes

    • George R says:

      And in his inadequate review of conflict and violence in Islamic Libya since Gaddafi, Bowen manages to omit mention of the assassination of the American Ambassador and three other Americans.

         11 likes

  31. chrisH says:

    I think that the BBC have truly given up, and are in a tizz until a grown up comes home to bin those drugs of theirs.
    I kid you not-the World at One today introduces itself with a series of things to switch off soon enough.
    One of which was the curse of the name “Smith”-more criminals called thus,and lesss high achievers with this name.
    But first the BBC News to be read for us by Alan Smith!
    Is there any attempt to link themselves at all, or is it all just one sausage skin to be linked via the stuffing of liberal platitudes, cliches and student rag week agitprop?
    Do they even listen to what they`re saying as they say it?…or are they all coming down from their Church services, so just” a-hoofin and a-buskin`?”
    Time to put ole Yeller out of her misery-the craven.clueless BBC need just one Mark Duggan peashooter put to what`s left of that braincloud of theirs.
    The BBC-irony, self mockery free zone since 1994.

       14 likes

    • The Highland Rebel says:

      Missed it Chris but I suppose it’s safe to say that in the interest of impartiality and balance they would have mentioned that every terrorist atrocity is carried out by people with the surname ‘Mohammad’

         11 likes

  32. Richard D says:

    Yesterday morning, as is my wont, I was pottering about the house with the radio on. The BBC presenter, Justin Webb, on the Today programme, at one point first interviewed Professor Len Shackleton, labour market expert from the Institute of Economic Affairs, then the TUC’s Mr Brendan Barber. Despite every effort by Mr Webb, Mr Shackleton would have none of Mr Webb’s attempts to portray even the slightest bit of negative news regarding the employment figures just released; just about every demographic was positively portrayed in the figures. Mr Webb introduced the topic of part-timers wanting full-time jobs, Mr Shackleton shot that down by quoting the information that the proportion of these people is going down, markedly – and that the vast majority of people in part-time employment choose to be so. Even when Mr Webb tried to introduce the ‘hearsay’ argument that recent interviews showed that these people wanted full-time work (as if they’d ever have interviewed anyone with the opposite view), he got blown away again by someone who actually knew the situation correctly. All in all, Mr Shackleton finally contradicted the presenter with view that there was no strong evidence coming forward that the Chancellor’s path forward was the wrong one.

    Then there was the person the presenter was more comfortable with – Mr Barber. Mr Barber basically pooh-poohed all of the curerent good figures, and again tried to say that people were forced to work part-time. No challenge on that from Mr Webb. Actually, not mucy of a challenge on anything from Mr Barber. A cosy little chat, and par for the course.

    I also heard a snippet from the same programme regarding Mr Osborne’s travelling in First Class on the train the previous day. It really was astonishing to hear at least two presenters (I am sure one was Evan Davis). despite them both being clearly aware that both the Chancellor’s office and Virgin Rail had given the truth of the story to the media, that at this point, “…the truth did not matter”, and went on to describe a version of the story designed to portray the Chancellor in the worst possible light.

    We are now seeing the BBC basically ignore truth if it doesn’t suit their biased opinion.

    Mr Mitchell, and anyone else in the current government, has no chance if the BBC chooses to ignore truth, or even a balanced view of a story. The BBC will side with the unions and the Labour Party to try to present the government in the worst possible light – every time. – and it’s now brazen politicking by the BBC.

       38 likes

    • Richard D says:

      A propos Mr Osbourne’s First Class journey, according to the Sunday Telegraph, 44% of all Labour MPs have claimed for first class travel in the past year, compared to 33% of all Liberal Democrat MPs, and ONLY 16% of all Conservative MPs. And Mr Osborne has been one of 460 MPs who has NOT claimed for first class travel in the past year (any comments implying he has tried to scam his way into First Class, so he naturally wouldn’t claim it, will only highlight the hypocrisy of the writer, since he has clearly paid his own way if he has chosen to travel in this fashion).

      But, of course, the BBC is not likely any time soon to broadcast these data.

         25 likes

      • Doyle says:

        Labour MPs wouldn’t be caught dead sitting next to their voters.

           19 likes

        • Earls court says:

          Most Labour Mp’s won’t go canvassing in their contsituancy’s because of all the abuse they get.
          Thats from all the groups in society.

             13 likes

        • pounce says:

          Sounds about right.. Funny enough a few years ago I sat opposite a tory MP on the Train and you could see the contempt on his face as he looked down at me. I just stared him down until he looked away. I didn’t say anything but the look was “Do you have a f-ing problem with me mate” Funny enough he jumped ship to the Labour party

          Years ago when I flew from Heathrow to Belfast A certain Mr Paisley was on the flight. In the departure lounge he went around and shook hands with everybody. Most impressed. Mind you I don’t think his ‘hidden security team liked him for doing so.

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    • joshaw says:

      Does anyone remember how the BBC covered this?

      Sack for ticket inspector who fined Cherie Blair £10

      Either she didn’t have a ticket for any class, or she didn’t have any class, depending on how you look at it.

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  33. Deborah says:

    Just been on the Daily Mail website – you know the newspaper that the BBC love to hate. It is reporting that Adam Hart Davis (ex-Etonian) was reprimanded for inappropriate behaviour by his manager at the BBC. Now who leaked that to whom? Is it co-incidence that this has leaked? Nothing to do with his school perhaps? And fancy that – it just happens to be the same school as the PM. (Had it been a comprehensive in Salford do I think the school would have been named?)

       18 likes

    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      I have a different theory: BBC leaking details to pre-emptively give you the result of their internal inquiry about whether or not they’ve learned lessons and put policies into place. If my guess is right, expect to see more of this.

         11 likes

  34. George R says:

    SYRIA/BRITISH JIHADISTS.

    INBBC censors this, not wanting to expose the Islamic jihadist killers in our midst in Britain (consequent of mass immigatioin from Islamic countries):

    “The Poplar preacher leading an armed gang of jihadis in Syria.
    “An influential British-based preacher is leading an armed gang of more than a hundred Islamist fighters in Syria, it can be disclosed.”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/9621352/The-Poplar-preacher-leading-an-armed-gang-of-jihadis-in-Syria.html

       11 likes

    • George R says:

      Of course, INBBC supports:

      1.) mass immigration into UK from Islamic countries;

      2.) anti-Assad regime militias.

         13 likes

      • johnnythefish says:

        and 3) Pro-gay rights Islamic preachers (one would assume)

           6 likes

        • Earls court says:

          Being left-wing is a mental illness. Anywhere that socialism has been tried it has failed.
          When the SHTF or Islam takes over it will be very bad for the socialists. If i was them I would stay away from lampposts and cranes on that day.

             10 likes

    • bodo says:

      “British-based preacher is leading an armed gang of more than a hundred Islamist fighters”

      Yup, silence from the media and politicians. I despair… WTF has happened to our country? And what will happen? The current levels of immigration mean that the future is going to be unrecognisable.

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  35. Beeboidal says:

    7 Day Sunday on 5Live today. With perfect clarity, Andy Zaltzmann says “The anti-cuts march”. Despite the clarity, Jenny Eclair queries it; “The antique hunts march?” Antique hunts -geddit? Hilarious, but not quite as hilarious as guest Mark Steel thinking Obama ran against Cheney last time and none of the geniuses present was able to correct him. Gaffe! Gaffe! Someone tell Twitter.

       21 likes

    • chrisH says:

      Don`t know if you saw Mark Steel(he`s a writer, you know!) in the Independent recently.
      His general take was that Savile is just an excuse for the rest of us to get at the BBC -and the Beeb are innocent (as long as they continue to pay his wages as a “funnyman”).
      His glib ignorance was very much in evidence-much as Owen Jones` is.
      I wrote something that hopefully put Steel in his wicca coffin….and many others did too.
      He`s not funny and has no claim to anything apart from being a lefty lickspittle in a jesters hat-it`s actually a dunces one, but he`ll not know that yet.
      Still-being published by New Left Books-we`d call it vanity press self pleasuring, but they call it “being an author”….which is how the BBC covers for its pals!
      Jimmy Saviles publications still available via BBC Enterprises then still?

         22 likes

      • Robin Rose says:

        I heard that too, a classic example of Bush derangement syndrome if ever there was one. Having said that, Mark Steele is occasionaly amusing, it is harsh to compare him with Owen Jones, who really is a state registered idiot.

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  36. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Curiouser and curiouser:

    Newsnight journalist accused of covering up sexual abuse by Savile at the school where his aunt was headmistress

    * Top BBC journalist Meirion Jones denies claims he concealed potential involvement of his aunt in scandal

    * Reporter fights allegations he tried to censor a video interview with one of Savile’s victims

    Circled wagons turn into circular firing squad?

       18 likes

    • Stewart S says:

      Perhaps this will turn into full-scale civil war
      With each side (how many will there be?) exposing the others hypocrisy and duplicity in an escalating series of reprisals and preemptive strikes
      Panorama has many skeletons hidden away from what I’ve read elsewhere
      I live,however,more in hope than expectation

         9 likes

      • Earls court says:

        Leftys will push other leftys under the bus in a heartbeat.

           7 likes

      • The Highland Rebel says:

        Maybe it’s Sunni v Shiah in the Islamic state of Al Beeb.

           13 likes

      • David Preiser (USA) says:

        Will it be Cavaliers vs Roundheads or Bolsheviks vs Kulaks?

           5 likes

        • Earls court says:

          Islington BBC vs Hampstead BBC
          Guardian BBC vs Independant BBC

             10 likes

          • Stewart S says:

            Panorama Vs. Newsnight would do for a start
            Don’t worry lefty’s can and do fall out

               11 likes

            • ROBERT BROWN says:

              Never tire of seeing this, and ‘What have the Romans done for us?’ This is how the Left and Islam is, even if they got their socialist state / World-wide Caliphate, they would turn on each other , that is how stupid they are.

                 17 likes

              • Earls court says:

                If there was a war between the Left and Islam. I’d say it would be a walkover for Islam. I can see alot of cranes and lampposts having lefty’s hanging from them.

                   10 likes

        • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

          Haves versus Have-mores

             9 likes

  37. As I See It says:

    Dear BBC,

    I have a query. Via your fine news bulletins I have been hearing a lot about the upcoming referendum on Scottish independence. However, I have noticed very little detail concerning the proposed division of shared property.

    Judging from the tone of your broadcasts it seems likely that Scotland will indeed be separating from the UK post-2014. (I have followed all the arguments closely – and exclusively – on the BBC and this seems to be the logical and sensible conclusion).

    On the basis that Stephen Fry is an accepted National Treasure – would you please let me know how much of him will be disappearing north of the border?

    I would appreciate some advice on this matter as it may affect my future holiday plans.

    Mr A. Guardian-Reader, London N1

       23 likes

    • johnnythefish says:

      Having heard him once on QI describe a man’s arse as his ‘man-hole’, they can have every revolting part of him.

         10 likes

    • Doyle says:

      If he’s a ‘national treasure’ does that mean we can bury him in a hole and dig him up in a thousand years?

         6 likes

  38. David Preiser (USA) says:

    How to embed a tweet:

    NB: This is to do it in full posts, but everything is the same except for a comment you have to add this script at the end of it:

    [script charset=”utf-8″ type=”text/javascript” src=”//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js”][/script]

    Replace each [ and ] with a > or its appropriate opposite. I can’t print it properly here or it goes invisible.

       4 likes

    • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

      Yes DP i understood that much, and I copied and pasted so no errors typed in, I probably wrongly assumed the format to be and maybe it ought to be >…….< ?
      space between the copied url link and the gobbledygook?

         0 likes

  39. chrisH says:

    Heard the pig-ignorant ramblings of Bob Crow on Any Questions the other night.
    Astonishingly stupid-and clearly communism was easily chipped out of him, to be replaced with the Green chip.
    Successful replacement of one nasty cod -ISM with another-and ,not being the sharpest pencil the box,our Bob collects his £150,000 and pays a pittance in rent-still “talkin` `bout a revolution” as his like. do.
    Thick-and just the kind of new eco-nazi that the BBC love-ex Commie, now green Fascist with not a brain to his name.
    For a man who holds the Tubes and buses to ransom, he seems to know a lot about windmills….but the audience loves his ignorance….the class of Beeb audience does deserve a public enquiry.

       33 likes

    • ROBERT BROWN says:

      Yes, and check out his many dinners at top class restaurants with his foul-mouthed cohorts in the Union, all at members expense, swilling £250 plus bottles of wine and champagne with food to match. Utter, utter pig of a man.

         24 likes

  40. George R says:

    If a Cabinet Minister has to resign for an alleged ‘7 second rant’,
    a BBC Director General should resign for not preventing a generation of Savile’s sexual abuse while at the BBC.

    “Andrew Mitchell should not have quit over ‘seven seconds’ of anger, David Cameron thinks.
    “David Cameron believes Andrew Mitchell should not have quit over his ‘seven seconds of unacceptable but very human exasperation’, a Cabinet minister has said.”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9623802/Andrew-Mitchell-should-not-have-quit-over-seven-seconds-of-anger-David-Cameron-thinks.html

    “BBC IN BATTLE FOR SURVIVAL”

    By David Stephenson

    http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/353373/BBC-in-battle-for-survival

       7 likes

    • George R says:

      Chris Mullin, former Labour Minister:
      ‘Times’ (£) –
      “Mitchell ‘is being bullied out of office by vested interests’.”

      [Opening extract]:-
      “Andrew Mitchell has won support from an unlikely quarter after Chris Mullin, the former Labour minister, urged David Cameron to stick by his beleaguered Chief Whip. Mr Mullin has accused the Police Federation of trying to bully Mr Mitchell out of office and told the Prime Minister to stand up against mob rule from a bunch of ‘head bangers’.”

      http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/politics/article3569266.ece

         18 likes

      • Reed says:

        So – the ONE decent member amongst them is actually an ex-politician. Says it all, really.

           6 likes

    • uncle bup says:

      ‘seven seconds of unacceptable but very human exasperation’,
      —————————————————

      I don’t like this, ‘oh we all do it’ argument.

      No we don’t all do it. Plenty of us get through our daily lives without considering people to be inferior to us then abusing them.

         5 likes

  41. chrisH says:

    Far be it for me to kick the BBC when they`re down, but…
    anyone able to tell me why Chris Page of BBC Northern Ireland was hanging round a kiddies playground earlier on national news?
    I know the pretext was !gay adoptions in “the Province”, but there really was no excuse for him and team to be prowling around the slides and swings-as they were swinging empty, like Carrie or something!
    Did Page have a CRB check?…and was it the BBCs idea to put this item on straight after the Savile story?
    If not, they certainly have linked gay adoption in the “out of step Ulster” with the abuse of kids at the BBC.
    Just because Savile didn`t have a CRB check, does not mean the likes of Page should not either-for were they not “different times back then”?
    Far be it to kick the BBC when they are down…HA!
    CRB checks for all Beeboids until the enquiry “clears them” of “noncing and grooming activities incompatible with even a perverted national monopoly funded by compulsion like the seedy BBC.
    CD BBC….has a ring to it doesn`t it?

       8 likes

  42. George R says:

    To Beeboids:

    -Trafalgar Day greetings.

    “Battle of Trafalgar”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Trafalgar

       8 likes

    • ROBERT BROWN says:

      Think the BBC ignored it. However, they would report it if; ‘ Today, in 1805, the combined French and Spanish fleets inflicted the most costly loss in the Royal Navys’ history in a battle off of Cape Trafalgar. The British lost 22 ships for the loss of two French. Admiral the Lord Nelson was wounded in the engagement but was summoned before a Naval court martial and dismissed the Service for gross negligence in the performing of his duties’. Tell me i’m wrong.

         19 likes

      • As I See It says:

        ‘….French and Spanish sailors take British Government to European Court of Human Rights over Trafalgar compensation claim, EU President Bonaparte approves’

        ‘Nelson’s Column : Insult to French and Spanish’

           9 likes

  43. As I See It says:

    Calling Carol Vordeman, calling Carol Vordeman, please report to the BBC News room…we are having trouble with our sums!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-20017882

    “SNP conference 2012: Nicola Sturgeon announces £33m fund to help poor”

    “Ms Sturgeon also said £45m would be spent on building 1,200 new houses and protecting 800 jobs.”

    Assuming all of that £45m is spent on those new houses – I make that £3,750 per house. I know the Scots are canny but that would be quite an achievement.

       16 likes

    • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

      They’re obviously in the style of crofters cottages!
      turf on the roof an’ all! Bit draughty tho’.
      NO glass in the windows and not meeting green standards, but hey!

         9 likes

    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      £37,500. Still pretty good value for money. Except one assumes that there will then be a further government subsidy of some kind to enable people to live in those houses.

      Then there’s the question of the 800 jobs “protected”. Are these 800 construction workers who would otherwise be unemployed in the over-inflated construction industry living fat off government contracts? Mr. Brown’s PFIs living on in spirit?

         12 likes

  44. Alex says:

    The BBC see fit to air Peter Tatchell’s views on Nick Griffin’s tweets about the gay couple who won rights over the Christian B and B owners. Tatchell talks about how Griffin should be arrested for inciting hatred… Of course. the militant gay rights protester has never engaged in threatening or aggressive behaviour…

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kXAw-2r5bus/UIP2R02uYwI/AAAAAAAAKeI/jNq2fo3ZyHI/s1600/Carey%2BTatchell%2BCanterbury%2BCathedral.JPG

       20 likes

    • Ken Hall says:

      Peter Tatchell, the militant and abusive man whose own website had documents promoting reducing the age of sexual consent to 14, and to allow sexual consent between children, so long as there is no greater than a 3 year age gap between them… No doubt under the supervision of some other adult to watch and “teach them about the pleasure of self touching!” The Sick Bastards!

      No wonder pervy uncle Beeb love him.

      One bunch of sick and twisted perverted kiddy fiddlers protecting and promoting another group of perverted, sick and twisted kiddy fiddlers.

         7 likes

  45. As I See It says:

    BBC Radio 5 “Adrian Goldberg investigates the temp agency tax deals.”

    “Take a look at your pay slip. If you work for a temp agency, beware of the tax deal hitting low-paid workers and the taxman. Recruitment agencies employing minimum wage workers are paying large sums of their wages in tax-free expenses…. ”

    Beeboids appear to have abolished the notion of irony but I’m reminded of…..

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2012/oct/12/paye-off-payroll-employers-employees-dodging-tax

    “A committee of MPs, led by Margaret Hodge, have expressed their shock and disgust at how many of the BBC’s high-earning stars are paid through “personal service companies”. By channelling their earnings through a personal service company an individual is paid gross and can cut their tax to around 20%, especially by avoiding national insurance.”

       19 likes

  46. George R says:

    ITV.

    “With the BBC on the run, ITV’s reputation is gaining ground
    The Savile story is essentially a tale of two broadcasters, and ITV will come out looking better for it.”

    By Ian Burrell.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/with-the-bbc-on-the-run-itvs-reputation-is-gaining-ground-8219823.html

       17 likes

  47. George R says:

    Marr’s ‘History of the World’ series -after eulogising the untruth which is ‘the religion of peace’ (Islam) last week, continues this week with a no-holds barred critique of Christianity this week.

    For Marr, on Islam:-

    “Condemning violence but remaining shushed about its roots is not only hypocritical but pointless if you actually want to uproot the cause.”

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/10/last-week-i-posted-about.html

       20 likes

  48. George R says:

    “BBC emails spark civil war over Jimmy Savile.
    Newsnight row described by John Simpson as ‘worst crisis that I can remember in 50 years at BBC'”

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/oct/21/bbc-emails-jimmy-savile

       13 likes

    • Reed says:

      …the worst crisis for the BBC, but not the worst crisis the BBC has caused for others, as any Falklands vet will attest to.

         24 likes

    • George R says:

      Six of Monday’s national newspapers’ front pages lead with BBC-Savile stories.

      http://news.sky.com/

         21 likes

      • McClane says:

        I don’t see how a BBC programme about the BBC is going to have any credibility at all.

           20 likes

        • Guest Who says:

          ‘I don’t see how a BBC programme about the BBC is going to have any credibility at all. ‘
          Well, the BBC investigating the BBC has been allowed to work in the BBC’s favour up to this point. Now it’s clearly broke they clearly have no clue on any other way to ‘fix’ it. And this time the tried and trusted has not only failed, but is making it even worse.
          Poetic.

             13 likes

    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      And Simpson ought to know: he remembers the last time the BBC covered up a potential scandal about a BBC celebrity kiddie-fiddler.

         1 likes

      • feargal the cat says:

        This article appears to have omitted Nick Pollards time at the bBC and Newsnight. Must have been an oversight.

           1 likes

  49. McClane says:

    Panorama programme is being rushed out. Is the BBC doing it a) to prove the independence of separate sections at the BBC, b) to focus DCMS MPs qs on Tuesday? (we know they watch TV but do they think?) or c) both?.

       9 likes

    • Stewart S says:

      Judging by tonight’s 10 o’clock news it will be a white wash.for News Night at least.
      Pity I was looking forward to the two rival production teams going for each others throats

         9 likes

      • McClane says:

        two rival production teams going for each others throats

        They’re brothers in arms.

           7 likes

        • Louis Robinson says:

          “tTo rival production teams going for each others throats”? That’s called normal service.

             5 likes

      • The Highland Rebel says:

        ‘I will bless those who bless Israel and curse those who curse Israel’

        Sorry beeb. The odds are against you.

           9 likes

        • Earls court says:

          In god we trust.
          All these BBC employees that mock Christianity and Judaism and think thats so funny and right on. Will feel gods anger.

             7 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      ‘Is the BBC doing it’
      As a purported ‘news’ entity with at least a few staff that have a modicum of professional pride (perhaps now getting articulated publicly at last as the employment gravy chain looks less golden), ‘they’ had to ‘do’ something, at least beyond dumb denial or weak excuses. Or outright lies.
      However… a bit too little… and a lot too late.
      And no matter what various munchkins coming out from the woodwork may now be trying to do in atonement on the specific case, there is the elephant in the room of the corporate culture that exists… across the board… on editorial, on what is ‘news’, what isn’t, what get’s enhanced or dropped. And, of course, how they handle concerns or critiques.
      Being comfortable in the belief that they get it about right 110% of the time, because they are the BBC and they say so… is blown clear out of the water.
      On the stories they cover… and the way they ‘deal’ with complaints on how they cover them.
      BBC Editorial and especially CECUTT is a busted flush.
      Look at The Editors blog. All they ever had was their reputation, and seemed to get away with idiotic defences in face of clear fact, backed by modding and closing out, based on no more than the ‘trust’ the BBC enjoys. There are statements there being directly contradicted on record by staff now.
      Look at any BBC Complaint response reprinted here. A director has had a look and decided a licence fee payer has no case… and no right to challenge them, so needs to be banned.
      I don’t think this bedrock of their ‘belief’ sets and damage control systems can ever be sustainable on this basis again.
      And all because they were simply too stupid, or too arrogant to do anything other than go into the inevitable default mode of senior market rate BBC ‘talent’ even when the clearest of present dangers were plain as the noses on their overpaid faces.
      I long since ceased to trust the BBC to inform or educate, across the board, or play straight if taken to task when they did or do.
      Others may now come to the same conclusion.
      Being forced to pay £145.50 for that in this day and age seems anachronistic.
      So I have questions and am holding powers to account: those who oversee this abuse.
      So if my DP sofa-addicted Tory MP thinks the national treasure excuse is enough to weasel out of addressing specific abuses of a constituent on the basis that one serves his career more tha the other, he may yet find the ballot box is a powerful force for change. Where that option is offered, of course.

         19 likes

    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      They’re doing it so nobody sees the President fail in tonight’s debate. 🙂

         4 likes

  50. Leftie-Loather says:

    THE TIMES front page headline today: ‘BBC misled its viewers….’ – Shock horror! SO WHAT’S NEW!?! ..LMFAO!!!
    Talk about bloody understatement of the century!!! ..LOL!!
    Think I’d tend to prefer ‘its (many reluctant) employers’ (of ALL political leanings – FAR from just the ever laughable Left!) though, rather than ‘its viewers’.

       30 likes

    • Leha says:

      Millipede is quick enough to call for public enqiries every other week for insignificant shite, how come he hasn’t called for one on the bBC?

         15 likes