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So has anybody read the so called expert analysis emanating from the so called impartial bBC regards just what is happening in the Levant I’ve read about the possibility of civilian casualties in Gaza, that a land invasion by Israel is imminent and that if Israel removes Hamas who and what will take its place. Other than all those suppositions…there isn’t a jot of analysis .
So allow me to tell you how things are and not how the bBC wants you to think things are:
For a start this all didn’t kick off the other day with the targeted assassination of Hamas’s military leader, no to find the ignition point we have to go back to the 23rd of Oct when the Emir Of Qatar visited and offered 10 million in which to help rebuild Gaza. The thing is this man is something of a Jihadist supporter and in the past year has handed over billions in funding radical Islamists in Libya, Egypt, Gaza and Syria.
On the 24 Oct 2012 the day after he kept Gaza, Hamas launched over 100 missiles into Gaza in which to say hello to Israel and get them to retaliate . The IDF kept it low key knowing that what Hamas wanted to do was get world public opinion so riled up and get the big hitters (Eygpt and Turkey) on side with the Islamic terrorists.
As I said Israeli refused to be drawn into this very open trap, now nothing happened except for the usual sporadic missile fire, until a fortnight ago when Israeli troops found a tunnel being dug under the border which was filled with explosives in another attempt in which to kill as many jews as possible if they could lure them into invading Israel. Instead it was blown prematurely . Angry at the loss of their ace, Hamason the 10th Nov launched an Anti-tank missile across the border into Israel at a jeep injuring 4 soldiers.
In response Israel targeted a mortar base plate killing 3 pals, in reply Hamas launched 50 missiles.
On the 14th of Nov Israel took out Ahmed Jabari, Hamas’s the man behind all of the above.
Accroding to the so called experts at the bBC, this current escalation started with the killing of Jabari, but as you can see its been ongoing for a while and it all points back to the Emir of Qatar who appears to be bankrolling a plan in which to fund all the religious idiots in the region to club together and wipe out Israel once and for all.
For some reason the bBC. Don’t mention this, instead they continue spreading Islamic terrorist propaganda. I mean come on they publish tweets from Islamic jihad. Who the hell gives the air of publicity to religious bigots who kidnap and chop off the heads of non-muslims. Oh that would be the bBC.
The bBC. The propaganda arm for Islamic terrorism
‘For some reason the bBC. Don’t mention this,’
What doesn’t get mentioned, and what does, serves little credit to the entire MSM, either on professionalism, coherence, accuracy or impartiality. Too often things simply don’t add up to match the words they claim from sources or what comes out of the mouths.
Earlier SKY’s SEAL team-wannabee Sam Kiley was ‘reporting’ in the obligatory shrapnel proof blue XS cumberbund and no helmet from his eeire.
Seems the Israelis had targetted a Hamas broadcasting station a few floors above.
Now, that he was still there wittering away suggested to me they did a pretty good job of that. Almost surgical.
No mention of what happened to said Hamas broadcasting station.
Or, indeed, what they were doing positioned a few floors above some Western emoters who appear oblivious to the fact that Hamas may stick some juicy targets next to said Western emoters in case the Israelis get unlucky, the propaganda boys get unlucky, but Hamas and all the other useful idiots get very lucky indeed.
Our Iron-domed hero intones sadly that ‘it is very difficult, even when the Israelis drop leaflets to advise getting away from Hamas centres of operation, to know where they are’. Not sure about the investigative competencies at play if they are two floors above and no fellow media types notice, or have a gander.
There’s also a really neat way of not getting smeared over the hotel lobby when a missile is launched from the pool bar…. don’t stay there.
That does appear to be a point of escalation, but I was in Israel in the week of 15-22 Oct and I recall close to 70 rockets had been fired in a short space of time even then, and the Israelis shot down a ‘drone’ a week or so earlier.
abdul bari – is on Sunday Morning Live 😀
so expect, the longest sob story imaginable – hmmm
i wonder what the PUBLIC vote will show?
all bbc in for yet another public shaming for their propaganda arm?
He should be dancing in Trafalgar Sq.
i actually envisaged a slightly bigger differential … would like to see the UAF/Soc Workers quota, oh and, (of course), the amount of muslim herd mentality, as jew hatred is never far their minds, the only truly uniting aspect of the ideology..
i did think i might get “dandied” over the result 😀
Rufus
Thank you for your reply, The problem we have with Israel is that it is under constant bombard from the so called victims in Gaza. The bBC never reports this drip,dripping of attacks, that 70 missile salute transpired on the 24th of Oct 12, the previous mass missile attack was on the 8th Oct. My post was aimed at the so called analysis from the bBC which is anything but.
compare and contrast the bbc neologisms
droneswhichkillinnocentpeople and
rocketswhichlandharmlesslyinfields
The military-terrorist wing of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) claimed responsibility for the attack (PFLP’s military-terrorist wing’s website, November 10, 2012). The attack marked the beginning of a new round of escalation in rocket and mortar shell fire from the Gaza Strip into southern Israel, a little more than two weeks after the previous round. The current round has not yet ended.
2. The Kornet (AT-14 Spriggan) is an advanced Russian-made anti-tank missile system with a SACLOS (semi-automatic command to line of sight) laser beam riding guidance system. Its intended targets are armored vehicles and carries a warhead which can penetrate reactive shielding Hezbollah used Kornet missiles to attack the IDF in the Second Lebanon War. In December 2010 the Commander in Chief of the IDF revealed that a Kornet had been fired from the Gaza Strip to attack an Israeli tank and had penetrated its armor. The Kornet has a diameter of 152mm and weighs 27 kilograms, or 59.4 lbs, and has a range of 100 to 5,000 meters, or up to 3.10 miles.
The Events on the Ground after the Missile Was Fired
3. IDF forces responded to the anti-tank missile attack on the jeep with tank fire, targeting the region in the Gaza Strip from which the missile had been fired. Other terrorist targets were also attacked. The Palestinian media reported that Israeli fire killed four Palestinians and wounded about 30. The Palestinian terrorist organizations operating in the Gaza Strip responded with massive barrages of rocket and mortar shell fire targeting Israel’s south. As of the afternoon of November 11, more than 50 rockets and mortar shells had been fired into Israeli territory. (Note: As of the morning of November 12, rocket fire continues.) A rocket fired at the southern city of Ashdod was intercepted and downed by the Iron Dome aerial defense system (IDF Spokesman, November 10, 2012). Another rocket was intercepted and downed in Beersheba, Israel’s largest southern city. Three civilians were injured and property damage was incurred (Ynet, November 11, 2012). Hamas and other terrorist organizations operating in the Gaza Strip claimed responsibility for the rocket fire.
4. In response to the rocket and mortar shell fire, the IDF and Israeli Air Force aircraft attacked a number of terrorist targets in the Gaza Strip, among them squads of terrorist operatives preparing to fire rockets into Israeli territory. The Palestinian media reported several dead and wounded.
5. The anti-tank missile attack on the IDF jeep was another in a series of attacks carried out during the past two weeks which targeted IDF forces patrolling along the Gaza Strip border.
1) On November 8, 2012, an IDF force was attacked with an IED detonated inside a tunnel in the southern Gaza Strip. The force was looking for IEDs after the increase in the number of terrorist attacks during the preceding two weeks. The force found a number of IEDs at the site. As the activity drew to a close there was a strong explosion in a booby-trapped tunnel running parallel to the security fence. The explosion exposed a tunnel about four meters, or 4.37 yards, deep and four meters wide. An IDF vehicle was thrown into the air by the explosion and damaged (IDF Spokesman, November 10, 2012). Hamas’ military-terrorist wing claimed responsibility for the attack (Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades website, November 8, 2012).
2) On October 23, 2012, an IDF officer was critically wounded during an operational activity near the security fence in the central Gaza Strip.
Rocket and Mortar Shell Fire from the Gaza Strip[1]
6. In response to the IDF fire on the anti-tank missile launchers, the terrorist organizations in the Gaza Strip initiated a massive barrage of rocket and mortar shell fire which targeted the cities and towns in Israel’s south. More than 50 rockets and mortar shells were fired. The attacks began on November 10, and during the day 24 rocket hits were identified in Israeli territory. A rocket targeting the large southern Israeli city of Ashdod was intercepted and downed by the Iron Dome aerial defense system (IDF Spokesman, November 10, 2012).
7. On November 11 the rocket fire continued throughout the first part of the day, and there were more than 20 additional identified rocket hits. One of them fell a few meters from a car waiting at a traffic light. The driver was injured and evacuated to a hospital. In Sderot a couple on their way to work were also injured, suffering minor wounds. A factory near Sderot sustained a direct hit from another rocket (Ynet, November 11, 2012). Around noon the Iron Dome aerial defense system intercepted and downed a rocket targeting Beersheba. (Note: The rocket fire continued throughout the day into the morning of November 12.)
Claiming Responsibility for Rocket and Mortar Shell Fire
8. Hamas, the Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) and other Palestinian terrorist organizations operating in the Gaza Strip claimed responsibility for the rocket fire:
1) On November 11 Hamas’ military-terrorist wing issued a statement claiming collective responsibility for the rocket attacks, along with the military-terrorist wings of other Palestinian terrorist organizations. Among them were the Salah al-Din Brigades (the Popular Resistance Committees), the Mujahideen Battalions, the Defenders of Al-Aqsa Brigades and the Al-Ansar Brigades. According to the announcement, the rocket and mortar shell fire was in retaliation for the so-called “slaughter of Sajaiya” the previous day. According to the announcement, the Palestinian factions “stood united” against Israel and would continue to defend themselves [sic], fulfilling their “sacred duty” to “resist” Israel. Hamas’ military-terrorist wing also posted a video of rocket fire; the video bore the logos of all the Palestinian terrorist organizations (Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades website, November 11, 2012).
2) The Jerusalem Brigades, the military-terrorist wing of the PIJ, issued a statement claiming to have fired 88 rockets and mortar shells into Israeli territory on November 10-11 (The PIJ’s PalToday website, November 11, 2012). According to the statement, “the Zionist crimes will not go unpunished,” and the campaign had only begun and would continue (Jerusalem Brigades website, November 11, 2012).
IDF Response to the Rocket and Mortar Shell Fire
9. In response to the rocket and mortar shell fire the IDF and IAF aircraft attacked a number of terrorist targets in the Gaza Strip:
1) On November 11 IAF aircraft attacked a site for the manufacture of weapons, two sites for storing weapons and two sites for launching rockets in the northern Gaza Strip. Also attacked were a site for storing weapons in the southern Gaza Strip (IDF Spokesman, November 11, 2012). The Palestinian media reported that two operatives belonging to the PIJ’s military-terrorist wing had been killed (Ma’an and Safa News Agencies, November 11, 2012).
2) On November 10 a terrorist squad in the northern Gaza Strip was attacked as it was about to fire rockets into Israeli territory. The Palestinian media reported the deaths of two PIJ terrorist operatives (Safa News Agency and the PIJ’s PalToday website, November 10, 2012).
10. The Jerusalem Brigades, the PIJ’s military-terrorist wing, issued obituary notices for the two terrorist operatives killed in the IAF strikes. They were Muhammad Fouad Ubeid, 20, from the Brigades’ northern Gaza Strip artillery unit, killed on November 11; and Muhammad Sayid Shkoukani, 20, a senior member of the Jerusalem Brigades media unit, killed on November 10 in an IAF strike (Jerusalem Brigades website, November 11, 2012).
And the bBC try to tell you the Jews started all of this
every pro hamas caller on here
http://www.bbc.co.uk/i/b01nwp2s/
has the same narrative – A no facts or B incorrect ones. (what listening to bbc does to you? 😀 )
across the pond – deja vu 😀
and as an adage, on the link to any answers above … i call them pro hamas
and not pallies – because hamas ARE the pallies choice – thus siding with them, you can guess the end result …..
OR if you can t 😀 ……..
sadly, you are nothing but a fantasist …. few of them around the bbc eh!
thanks Pounce, your reporting is far better than the public broadcaster’s. Gives a very different picture to Al Bowen’s recent ‘it was Israel that started it’.
Except they don’t.
‘Except they don’t’
Appreciating proof of negatives is not too easy, as the champion of not posting without URLs, that non sequitur also lacks consistency by your dogmatic and boneheaded ‘House Rules’.
Yesterday on the Today programme that was exactly Bowen’s words.
He said ‘the Jews started all of this’?
No he didn’t, nor has anyone on the BBC said this. Pounce is dissembling.
He doesn’t understand the difference between the State of Israel and Jewish religion.
You might want to take that up with those that react negatively to Jews around the world when Israel does something they disagree with.
And you understand the state of Israel do you, Prole?
Give us a potted histroy since 1947.
….and you can start from your previous premise of how ‘the Israelis and Palestinians haven’t talked for 60 years’ if you like.
If I knew what a histroy was maybe I would.
BTW I worked in a kubbutz in the Seventies and have visited Israel many times since.
histroy/kubbutz, pot/kettle,
I see what you did there:)
Begging the question as to what the ‘work’ while in Israel may have actually been.
‘prole says:
November 18, 2012 at 1:19 pm
If I knew what a histroy was maybe I would.
Then you come on here having a go?
Blimey.
Prole, next time you are at a bunfight with your leftist pals (preferably one you don’t know too well) tell them you are Jewish. Then count the number of seconds it takes for them to attack you on Israel.
I dare you to try it it’s very instructive. You’ll lose friends but then who wants racists as friends?
PS. My record for the first mention of Israel was 3 seconds. The very first thing said back was ‘do you support Israel?’
You will of course needs some personal bravery to respond ‘yes’ to that question.
‘pals (preferably one you don’t know too well)’
Safe bet, being the only social life evident is at a place he comes to obsessively to spread a unique form of peace & love like a love child of Ringo Starr and the Simpsons’ Cat Lady.
It’s all in the use of words, Jim – Israel always ‘escalates’ whilst Hamas ‘retaliates’.
Simple as that.
Austin Allegro Sratton was reporting from Labour’s Corby bi-election win on Newsnight last night and I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone looking so happy. B.I.A.S.
Yes, she’s of ‘Guardian’-BBC-NUJ political axis, and it shows.
Your evidence? And I mean a verifiable link.
Here it is, just for you. Look how chuffed she is in the introductory piece.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01nzr0w/Newsnight_16_11_2012/
The BBC are traitors and commiting treason in the same way that lord haw haw and benedict arnold did.
The BBC and all their fellow lefist travellers will lose no matter what happens.
David Vance wonders why the site isn’t taken seriously and this gem of erudite thought appears.
Earls Court thinks the BBC is a person (only people can commit treason) in the mould of Lord Haw Haw. Who is the enemy power the ‘BBC’ is working for?
Apparantly the BBC is going to lose (What and to who?) no matter what happens. Which of course could include the BBC winning whatever it is they are being treasonous about.
Of course there’s no reason logic or thought in such posts. But 15 likes does suggest a lot of readers with equal difficulties understanding English.
I’m still none the wiser what the BBC is bias against.
The BBC is a corporation and so it is a person under English law.
The employees of the BBC can commit treason and the BBC as a person under English law can be tried for treason.
The enemy power the BBC and its employees are working for is their own anti-west subversive Cultural Marxist, Frankfurt School, Common Purpose agenda.
They think when society collapses they will end up ruling it.
The BBC will lose if Islam takes over they will go the same way as the left did during the Iranian revolution. When Gods steps in they will lose. When the TV licence ends they will lose. When they moral majority in this country turns on them they will lose.
P.S.
Prole doesn’t much about you that you liked your own posts.
So let’s makes this clear. The BBC is working with some secret organisation nobody but you has heard of in Frankfurt to overthrow the UK.
Oh dear.
He means this organisation.
Please keep up at the back.
I do not wonder anything of the sort.
The “tweet” link on the BBC main page is an utter disgrace.
It is so biased towards the Palestinians you’d think the whole thing just started with Israel launching an unprovoked attack.
The pictures include:
The burning of an Isreal flag.
A photo of a bomb strike in Gaza with the caption ” But since Wednesday many places across Gaza looked like this”.
A close up photo of an “injured” Palastinian baby with the caption “Here, an injured Palestinian child cries at a hospital following an Israeli air strike in Beit Lahia, northern Gaza”.
A photo of Palastinian “demonstrators” with the caption “Pro-Palestinian demonstrators have gathered outside the Israeli embassy in London to protest against the offensive in Gaza”.
A photo of jeering women with the caption “Hezbollah supporters and Palestinian groups in Lebanon take part in a Beirut protest against the Israeli offensive in Gaza on Saturday”.
A photo of with the caption “The BBC’s Jon Donnison has sent out this photo of Hamas PM Ismail Haniyeh’s FLATTENED headquarters in Gaza City”.
A photo of Tunisia’s Foreign Minister Rafik Abdessalem
visiting a wounded Palastinian patient in hospital with the quote “Israel cannot continue to use force, it is not above the law and has no special protection”.
Another picture of Tunisia’s Foreign Minister Rafik Abdessalem this time “visits the DESTROYED office of Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh in Gaza City”.
A photo that “shows all that is left of Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh’s office in Gaza City this morning after it was targeted in an Israeli airstrike”.
A photo showing a building with “Fire and smoke are seen BILLOWING from Gaza City after an airstrike on Saturday morning”.
Another photo showing a hit/crushed car of an Israeli airstrike.
And below it Jon Donnison tweets “For those asking IDF has updated its figures on numbers of targets hit in Gaza since midnight to 180 plus. IT HAD EARLIER SAID ONLY 85”.
Bias?.
Have to admit I just love all this faux rage aimed at Israel for fighting back killing 40 people in the process.
Just up the road in Syria 106 people died yesterday and around 39,000 have died this past year. But from the likes of the bBc,the left and the Islamic world….Nothing. Yet 40 deaths on the side of the idiots who started this war and its evil Israel
I’ll never forget seeing a Newsnight piece on a supposed Palestinian water shortage. The first scene showed a boy of about 2 drinking water – in a skullcap. The message was obvious – kill Jewish babies to save the Palestinian ones. This was about 5 years ago.
Interesting reporting on the BBC site in a piece this morning:
The World Health Organisation says hospitals in Gaza are overwhelmed with casualties and short on supplies.
Terrible though that is, someone clearly decided it was more imporant to build up a big stash of mortars and rockets instead of bandages, plasma and morphine. Also if you were bringing in gear to provoke Israel into an offensive, not bringing in medical supplies to deal with the response is criminal.
Not citing it as BBC bias, more that the bleeding obvious eludes them once again.
Funny but also not a little weird:
http://www.annaraccoon.com/annas-personal-stuff/the-british-broadcasting-corporation-a-monument-to-paedophilia/
…beat me to it. They do seem to find them at the Beeb, don’t they.
“The BBC’s ‘dirty little secret’ lands it in a new scandal.
“The truth of a secret meeting that decided BBC policy on climate change has come out online.”
Christopher Booker, ‘Sunday Telegraph.’
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/9684775/The-BBCs-dirty-little-secret-lands-it-in-a-new-scandal.html
Oh dear.
“Newsnight scandal threatens to derail journalism’s bid for charity status.”
[Opening excerpt]:-
“Next week’s planned launch event for a report that makes the case for investigative journalism to be accorded charitable status has been postponed in the wake of widespread condemnation of the Bureau of Investigative Journalism’s role in the Newsnight debacle.”
By Tania Mason.
http://www.civilsociety.co.uk/governance/news/content/13810/newsnight_scandal_threatens_to_derail_journalisms_bid_for_charity_status?
‘The Bureau is an independent, not-for-profit organisation based at London’s City University.’
This word… ‘independent’… does saying make it so, like Captain Picard?
‘Daily Mail’ of Friday had more on B.I.J. including this:
“Leveson Inquiry has momentous implications for free speech. But Mail dossier raises disturbing questions about the influence of ‘people who know best'”
SPECIAL INVESTIGATION By RICHARD PENDLEBURY.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2233681/Leveson-Inquiry-Mail-dossier-raises-disturbing-questions-influence-quasi-masonic-nexus-people-know-best.html
-Also:-
“Downfall of the Tweeting investigator: News Bureau head quits after bragging about Newsnight probe.
“Iain Overton resigned as editor because of his explosive tweet sent about the programme, friends say.
“Reports indicate the programme was ‘bounced’ into running the item because of tweet.
“MP Andrew Bridgen called for backers of the Bureau of Investigative Journalism to end support.
By VANESSA ALLEN and ROSIE TAYLOR
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2232067/Downfall-Tweeting-investigator-News-Bureau-head-quits-bragging-Newsnight-probe.html
Anonymous hacker group attacks Israeli websites Checking the list of sites the BBC links to they all seem to be hobby and small business sites of the type that some servers give away for free. It looks as if the ANON group only managed to hack two servers.
Is the real agenda to give wide publicity to their message?
Think the BBC might have mentioned that they did no damage at all to government or military sites?
The last few paragraphs about the IDF blog are stunning in their irrelevance to the headline. The IDF creates websites and the Anon hacks websites: moral equivalence?
The Bottom Line on News24….load of bollocks
http://tradingaswdr.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/nothing-on-paper.html?
‘An FOI request to the BBC seems to suggest that they can find no written record of complaints against Jimmy Savile – at least in the most likely areas.
“I estimate that this would involve searching the entirety of the BBC’s records and therefore compliance with your request would exceed the appropriate limit of 2.5 days. “
So… they’ve hidden it so well that it would by some amazing coincidence not be found in the only places they can spare the time to look?
Unique. The spirit of the ‘Beware of the Leopard’ cupboard is strong with this one.
‘If you believe the average Eurosceptic, you can’t even grow a Granny Smith within the EU unless it conforms to the standard size.’
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20361339
No doubt in Mary Beard’s worldview, your ‘average Eurosceptic’ is a simpleton who uncritically believes all of the tabloid stereotypes about the EU. If only these benighted Daily Mail reading people knew the truth about this wonderful institution, which imposes its fine left-wing laws on the UK and costs us billions of pounds a year, they would surely support it…
Jeff
Read Ms. beards article carefully what is she saying that the laws concerning the age of sexual consent are as social construct? Well of course they are most of us would think with good reason But then she goes on to equate them with the rules governing first class train travel .An ‘anachronism’ she seems happy to exploit,for-fend that she should travel among the great unwashed let alone live among them
But she is happy to know what is best for them
Some weeks ago I posted to the affect that the reason that the BBC was in such confusion over the Savile scandal was that they are Representative of bourgeois liberal elite for whom moral relativism has become a religion ( I do like the term cultural Marxism as I believe that their new ‘horizontal faith’ has more to do with Freud than Marx) and that for them traditional marriage is a greater crime than paedophilia I was branded a paranoid conspiracist
Is Ms. Beard entitled to preach her deconstructionist views from the security of her income gated community? Of course,but where is the dissenting view from this orthodoxy?Not on the BBC (or in the Guardian) And those that do dissent (writers and readers of the populist press)are branded as witchs and heretics.
Mocked in their (the BBCs) courts of auto-de -fa (mock the week,HIGNFY etc.) excommunicated from the airways and in the wider world punished by rule of law (see unreported Adrian Smith case A rare triumph for common sense)
I am paranoid? perhaps but that doesn’t mean their not out to deconstruct traditional values
Is there a conspiracy not in the sense of cowled figures meeting sub-temple
But who can deny that the BBC has taken on the role of self appointed liberal inquisitor seeking to guide where they can and punish where they cannot
Don’t panic, don’t panic!
They don’t like it up ’em!
Left-winger and BBC employee Alan Davies is highlighted as one of those Twitter users now in the sights of Lord AcApine’s lawyers.
http://www.itv.com/news/update/2012-11-18/mcalpines-lawyers-set-to-target-principle-tweeters/
Utterly predictably the BBC (via a chat on News 24 this morning) asks:
‘Is it time to rethink our laws of defamation?’
And there was me thinking the BBC had thrown weight behind Brian Leveson’s push for more legal regulation on the right to free speech.
Ironic Hoot du Jour:
Jon Kay @jonkay01
What can – and can’t – you say legally on Twitter? On @BBCBreakfast in a moment we’ll be talking defamation, libel and social media.
So much to uniquely mock… so little time.
As Jezza says… ‘Views are my brother’s’.
And all is well in the world of Aunty.
Sorry, that bit of irony got superceded on my blog trawl…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-20357998
What do rockets in skies over Israel portend?
Well Mark, nothing good. And as they are still flying, well worth the asking, and discussing… oh….
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To those cherry vultures wittering about ‘rights to have their say’ on this site whilst leaving the BBC free to do this… pipe & smoke it.
http://bbcwatch.org/2012/11/18/bbc-world-service-dusts-off-disproportionate/
Feel free to join in one sites where they don’t pull the plug when things veer off narrative.
It’s been reported on Sky Paper review that Lord McAlpine has instructed his lawyers to track them down. They are then offered to make a full and public apology and pay £5 to a childrens charity.
Doesn’t sound like blood thirsty swivel eyed revenge to me. Neither does it sound like a huge curtailing of freedom. The fact is he was defamed, the allegations were not true and the law is there to protect us all from sloppy journalism or biased and mischievous public commentary.
It seems the BBC has learned nothing from recent events – still biased to the core and will be to it’s demise.
Please let it be that the egregious Alan Davies and the appalling Sally Bercow are targeted for special treatment by Lord MacAlpine’s lawyers. To see them in court would be the delight of the year (or decade).
Can I nominate Monbiot for special treatment here by the mighty Lord?
Not because of his tweet-to be fair, no-one has grovelled like George over his over-exuberance-but because of his using the apology to give his “raison d`etre” in regard of his dribbling.
Yes folks-he came into hackwork so he could “give a voice to the oppressed” or to those “without one”.
Now-Dez, etc…this is NOT verbatim…do check for yourselves and see it as a Monbiot wrote it-self regarding sanctimonious prig-and if MacAlpine can reduce him to bandas and samizdat on his John Bull printing press, then we`ll all be so grateful, you fantastic Lord of all graciousness and wonderment…which is pretty much verbatim!( I jest, lads…alright?)
Yes the lefty tweeters have over reached themselves and presented the Lord McAlpine with a rare opportunity for a non lefty person to hit back. Will he take it though? Perhaps owing to poor health he seems to have settled with the BBC, who after all were the cause of his problems, so I suspect that he may settle for more fulsome apologies and token out of court settlements. This is all very gracious and well mannered. But the left will just laugh at him , as I am sure they are laughing at the way the Tories have let them off the hook.
If the boot was on the other foot they would use the full force of the law and insist , via their propaganda arm of the BBC , on full damages and the ritual humiliation of a ‘show trail’.
I find it demoralising that the BBC seem to have got away with Newsnightgate Parts 1 and 2. I feel that the Timid Tories have let Britain down over this.
I still remember little Alan’s performance during the ‘Greatest Britons’ series. Amongst the giants of British history like Elizabeth I, Brunel, Newton, Darwin, Churchill, Nelson, our Mr. Davies decided to plump for….John Lennon.
Not. Enough. Facepalms.
ABU QATADA.
From ‘Daily Mail’ to BBC, which can’t do investigative journalism:-
“Secret MI5 dossier: Hate preacher Abu Qatada issued orders to kill British citizens after 9/11.
“Damning new evidence on hate cleric allowed to walk free from jail.
“Documents found in Libya ambassador’s residence could put him in dock.”
By ABUL TAHER and ROBERT VERKAIK
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2234589/Secret-MI5-dossier-Hate-preacher-Abu-Qatada-issued-orders-kill-British-citizens-9-11.html
Will BBC’s Casciani, or BBC chum Chakrabarti show an interest?
Will BBC’s Casciani, and BBC chum Chakrabarti take up this?:-
“SAS war hero Danny Nightingale is in jail while terror suspect Abu Qatada is free.
“This is a travesty of justice.”
By Nile Gardiner.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100190176/sas-war-hero-danny-nightingale-is-in-jail-while-terror-suspect-abu-qatada-is-free-this-is-a-travesty-of-justice/
For information of BBC:-
“Wife of SAS sniper jailed for possessing handgun calls on David Cameron to end ‘injustice’ of his sentence.
“Prisoner Sergeant Danny Nightingale served in Iraq and Afghanistan.”
“Sally Nightingale has asked the Prime Minister for ‘five minutes of his time’ in return for the ’17 years of his life’ that he has spent serving the country.
“Sgt Nightingale was sentenced to 18 months in military detention.
“Sally is to visit him for the first time since he was sentenced over a week ago.
By LARISA BROWN
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2234706/Wife-SAS-sniper-jailed-possessing-handgun-calls-David-Cameron-end-injustice-sentence.html
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“Terror case lawyers who fight fanatics’ deportation land £110m bill in legal aid” (April, 2012.)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2133734/Terror-case-lawyers-fight-fanatics-deportation-land-110m-legal-aid.html
“European court ‘tipped off Abu Qatada over deadline to help him make last-ditch appeal to stay'” (April, 2012.)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2133343/Euro-court-tipped-Abu-Qatada-make-ditch-bid-stay.html
If the BBC were serious about their impartiality and world-renowned investigative journalism, they might, just might, compare and contrast the life of luxury Qatada lives on the state compared with all these people they keep telling us about (victims of vicioustorycutz) who are having to rely on parcels from food charities.
I feared I was getting close to libel on that last one, but the threads below highlight those lawyers who make big business out of protecting the Islamists.
If you fear you’re close to libel, may I humbly suggest you don’t dump it in David Vance’s lap?
Stickler, Bureau of Investigative Journalism, and BBC.
‘Daily Mail’:-
“Meanwhile, Angus Stickler – the lead reporter of the discredited Bureau of Investigative Journalism, which was responsible for BBC Newsnight’s smearing of ex-Tory treasurer Lord McAlpine over child sex abuse claims – was quizzed by his own bosses in an internal probe last week.
“Stickler is currently on ‘fully paid leave of absence’ from the Bureau, which is based at London’s City University.
“A BBC veteran who has worked with the reporter in the past observed drily: ‘Angus is a stickler by name, but sadly not always by nature.’”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2234639/BLACK-DOG-Helen-gives-hounds-slip.html
“based at London’s City University.”
Should that not read
based at Britain’s premier visa factory?
“PULL THE PLUG ON BBC WASTERS”
By Neil Hamilton.
http://www.express.co.uk/ourcomments/view/358972/Pull-the-plug-on-BBC-wasters
‘Germans do not actually earn very much compared to those in other European countries – less than in France and Spain and about two-thirds what a comparable British workers has.’
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20355476
According to Wikipedia, the applicable earnings per worker per year in US dollars are:
Germany – $40,223
France – $38,128
Spain – $34,387
Britain – $44,743
It seems the BBC research team are as rigorous and robust now as they were prior to that Newsnight ‘investigation’…
Jeff
” two-thirds what a comparable British workers has.’”
Suspect based on pole taken at hampste dinner party
I’ve never liked Hampstead or Islington so hideously white.
The white people that live there must be terrible racists seeing no non-wihtes live there.
Don’t be silly. Plenty of non- whites there. You know the nannies and servants …
Have you been to islington? It’s not the area of myth. Very mixed, in all ways invluding class and race. Hampstead less so, but again the myth it’s a left wing ghetto is nonsense.
We are still very much in watch-this-space territory with Leveson. I have refered to this before, however, there is an particular area where we at b-BBC should be very mindfull. The more rumbustiuous of our newspapers are big enough and – I’m glad to say – ugly enough to fight their corner when it comes to M’lud Brian’s inevitable push to protect the rich and famous from us plebs catching any nasty whiff from their dirty laundry via the tabliods. Hence the Daily Mail’s rather over due exposure of a liberal elite interest at the heart of the supposedly independent Levenson circus.
But look, there were hints about another strand of leftist restraint being put on the press. The idea that ‘certain groups of people’ might feel offended by newspaper reports and editorials. Think about this one. The BBC happily self-regulates to avoid causing offence toward a range of minority….let’s just say… ‘persuations’. And because of this certain debates have been either stiffled or heavily weighted in a certain inevitable direction within the output of our national broadcaster. These are important debates about the future of the country where one would have thought that open debate ought to be…well…open.
Now there is a rule of unforseen consequences and there is also a sense that the liberal elite have deliberately put certain PC laws onto the statute book in the full realization of how they might be used against their idealogical opponents. Brian could dream up some concept of legal protection for ‘certain groups’ that Cameron would find hard to resist – particularly since he appears to be in awe of the BBC who would push the agenda here very hard.
Suddenly a new range of hate crimes may be enforced to shut down reporting and comment that exceded the scope of the BBC’s rather vanila reporting on… oh ok let’s specify some digging implements (while we still can)…..benefits cheats, illegal immigrants, travellers, Liverpudlians, terrorists, those with niche sexual proclivities…..etc etc.
“Pressure on Lord Patten over BBC DG ‘handover’ offer rebuff”
By Andrew Hough.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/9686151/Pressure-on-Lord-Patten-over-BBC-DG-handover-offer-rebuff.html
The bBC, the propaganda arm for Islamic terrorism
So I am watching the news and the bBC opens up with:
“Israel bombards Gaza for a fifth day.”
This is mirrored on their so called news website and I quote:
Israel has been shelling Gaza for a fifth day, killing at least 12 Palestinians, as PM Benjamin Netanyahu said Israel was ready to “significantly expand” its operation in Gaza
So if you were a young impressionable person (or even a not so young impressionable person) |Whom would you think was the belligerent thug here . Israel or Hamas. Well its so one-sided. Isn’t Well how many rockets have there being launched against Israel today bBC?
Rockets fired from Gaza have again hit Israel. Damage and injuries were reported in Ashkelon and Ofakim.
No figures, the bBC which can instantly give you name, rank and number when it comes to the news coming out of darkest Gaza, Afghanistan, Nigeria, Pakistan. Becomes all coy and reticent when it comes to informing you who was behind the latest terrorist outrage or as in this case, just how many military grade missiles packed with ball bearings (for max effect) have been lobbed into Israel.
Now have a look at the bBC video of that strike on that media building the bBC show a hit in full light, yet the two strikes were at 1am and at 6am. In fact the IDF have a video of that strike as seen from the air. Sky shows it (And mentions nobody was hurt) and they are based in the building, but the bBC says 2 people were killed. Here’s the video.
It seems, that the bBC hasn’t learnt a jot from getting caught spreading lies about those it hates (Tories) and continues to do likewise with the Jews.
The bBC, the traitors in our midst
Is the bBC biased against Israel
Here’s a simple test, click on the bBC live news feed on their web site. Here’s the link;
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-20383756
Have a look to at the tool bar in blue
Latest. Live, In pictures etc..
Have a look at what they have at the end.
Gazan fears
Nothing about Jewish fears. You know those people in Israel who have bomb shelters in their homes, Those people who have a missile defence system, who run for shelter when they hear air-raid sirens. Instead the bBC sheds tears for Islamic terrorists( Whom they refer to as militants) who terrorise over 3 million people on a daily basis. yet using British law as a datum the Islamic thugs who wish to murder are only seen as ..victims.
The bBC, the traitors in our midst
Is the bBC biased against Israel
Here’s a simple test, click on the bBC live news feed on their web site. Here’s the link;
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-20383756
Have a look to at the tool bar in blue
Latest. Live, In pictures etc..
Have a look at what they have at the end.
Gazan fears
Nothing about Jewish fears. You know those people in Israel who have bomb shelters in their homes, Those people who have a missile defence system, who run for shelter when they hear air-raid sirens. Instead the bBC sheds tears for Islamic terrorists( Whom they refer to as militants) who terrorise over 3 million people on a daily basis. yet using a human rights POV the Islamic thugs who wish to murder are only seen as ..victims.
The bBC, the traitors in our midst
Sorry double post, which happened when the site informed me just that
Anybody watching that bBC prick standing out in the open (crouching) inside Israel during an air-raid warning without any body armour on, with everybody else running for cover.
Next report
He’s wearing body armour as everybody else is walking around in shorts and TShirts and even walking the dog.
The bBC, we send you a picture which just isn’t real
It’s almost a subliminal signal: Beeboid in victim territory wearing body armor/bullet-proof vest in contrast to Beeboid in evil aggressor territory without any need for protection.
Surely not done on purpose, just incidental evidence of Israel’s brutality and that all media except the BBC is Israeli propaganda. Right, Wyre and Jon?
How the bBC shrills for Islamic terrorists
The current mission statement from the bBC is how Gaza cannot cope with all the dead and wounded.
So according to the bBC, 58 people have been killed and 560 injured.
Gaza, has a population of 1.5 million and has 13 hospitals
and hundreds of smaller medical centres. Plus Eygpt has opened the border with Gaza and is allowing wounded people to seek treatment inside Egypt.
It seems the bBC has no problem in withholding the truth when it comes to radical Islamic terrorists
The bBC, the traitors in our midst.
“Bureau of Investigative Journalism in cash crisis.
“News organisation helped with Newsnight report that resulted in Lord McAlpine being wrongly identified as paedophile.”
By Jamie Doward.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/nov/17/bureau-investigative-journalism
‘estimated losses of £1,406,827’
Considering the first I’d heard of their output was not the best introduction, that’s impressive.
Maybe they could find a teenager on staff and then Pudsey, who seems a generous sort, could chip in?
…perhaps The Guardian could help bail them out…oh no…wait…
Leftists and deficits – one follows the other with grim predictability. I guess profit is an evil right-wing concept best avoided. 👿
There seems to be a link between ‘news’ entities whose unique funding appears to create a gap between what they find newsworthy and what a sustainable model audience would.
Oh, and truth, accuracy or, indeed, the law.
Seems like a good time to start redistributing that license fee, no? Er…..
But I find this bit of information to be bizarre, to say the least:
Who had responsibility for the report is the subject of claim and counter-claim that could have implications for the size of any libel payout. The bureau insists it had no editorial input into the report that went out on Newsnight and that its production was “100% the BBC”.
I think we really need our resident professional journalists to explain this one. I know the difference between doing the investigative journalism and editorial control over a published report. But what kind of crap defense is this? It’s not their fault their shoddy journalism made it to air, so don’t blame them for the shoddy journalism? And the BBC is saying they’re not totally to blame because the reporting was done by somebody else? So what do the lawyers at BoIJ mean by “100% BBC”?
This isn’t going to go away quietly.
‘what kind of crap defense is this? It’s not their fault their shoddy journalism made it to air, so don’t blame them for the shoddy journalism? And the BBC is saying they’re not totally to blame because the reporting was done by somebody else?
In the spirit of supporting those I respect, the defence is, at best, like all things BBC… ‘unique’.
I might point to a few occasions where CECUTT have been confronted with guests saying things that have been unfortunate, and responded eventually by saying that the person in charge of invitations can’t comment on what folk say, and the guy in charge who handles what they say can’t comment on invitees, so they have locked each other out of their respective rooms, can’t talk, agree or disagree, and hence it all goes away in a puff of ‘got it about shelved’.
Here’s a bountiful supply of patronising high minded BBC piffle.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20361339
Strange how keen the BBC were on the distinction between first class and standard class on trains during the Chancellor-who-is-an-arrogant-Tory-toff-who won’t-sit-with-nasty-unwashed-plebs-even-when-he-doesn’t-have-a-ticket-gate non story…..
WTF should I pay upwards of 350 quid for a first class ticket just to be invaded by some loud yewfs who are either travelling on a super-standby-saver-cheepo, or haven’t even considered a ticket necessary.
All power to the “Big Man” who threw the odious ticketless ‘student’ off the train in Scotland.
Beeboid Sarh Rainsford and some more BBC Cuba-love.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20358598
‘Discovering the ruins of Vittorio Garatti’s Ballet School in Havana is like stumbling across a secret.’
‘It was Fidel Castro who in 1961 called for the exclusive Havana Country Club and its manicured golf course to be replaced with the “best arts school in Latin America”.’
Ah that socialist pie-in-the-sky is often slow to arrive.
Sarah’s Twitter….
Sarah Rainsford @sarahrainsford
@sarahrainsford
BBC Havana Correspondent (but this is my personal account), formerly based in Madrid, Istanbul & Moscow
Havana, Cuba
So what’s the news from Cuba, Sarah? How do the Cubans feel about their communist system?
‘O dear. Cuba was already struggling in football; now it seems 3 of the national squad defected in Canada – ahead of the W/Cup qualifier’
Aw, shame.
You beat me to it! Who gives a damn about a defunct Cuban ballet school?
Well, apart from BBC Guardianistas, who think absolutely anything at all that happens in their beloved country is of immediate and passionate interest to everyone.
Remind me why I am forced to contribute to this idiotic woman’s salary please, someone.
A couple of months ago I absent-mindedly listened to a radio 3 talk about Celia Sanchez, a close aide and rumoured lover of Fidel Castro, on the foolish assumption that it would all be over in a quarter of an hour. After half an hour I found myself thinking desperately ‘Please make it finish.’ They thought somebody in this country was interested enough to sit through a 45 minute documentary. I can usually take an interest in most historical subjects but this hagiography was just unbearable. It’s still on iplayer if you want to hear what the Beeb can capable of inflicting on a hapless public.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01806nv/Sunday_Feature_In_Search_of_Celia_Sanchez/
Taking those serious problems seriously, then…
BBC staff ‘played Jim’ll Fix It theme tune at drunken party at Television Centre’
The bash was being held to celebrate the move across London to Broadcasting House
Staff are said to have ‘cheered and clapped’ each time it was played
The BBC has refused to comment
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2234830/BBC-staff-played-Jimll-Fix-It-theme-tune-drunken-party-Television-Centre.html#ixzz2Cd1cQQ8F
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What is this, high school?
Kindergarten more like.
Could have been worse; they could have worn Ed Balls costumes.
Luckily, sparing the BBC weeks of ‘oh, and while you’re on’ questions about this when being interviewed on other stuff, they can claim it was another time… or refuse to answer questions… or simply own the edit suite and broadcast system and fail to mention it.
Unique is as unique does.
Often on this site, the fact that a TV station like SKY, a Newspaper like the Telegraph or a politician like David Cameron complements the BBC is used to justify its objectivity.
Jon Baines @bainesy1969
PM of UK compares inconvenience of defending claims that the executive has unlawfully exercised its powers with the need to fight Hitler.
Maybe it’s more a case of the company that’s kept?
Mr. Cameron is simply another part of the problem.
‘…PM of UK compares inconvenience of defending claims that the executive has unlawfully exercised its powers with the need to fight Hitler…’
Odd statement that, but taking things out of context remains a successful device that lefties and assorted BBC activists use to criticise Cameron and stop him in his attempts to put the genie back i the bottle.
What Cameron is attacking is the use of Judicial Reviews to impede change, all sorts of change, for the benefit of the country. Nothing can get done if every single ‘I’ hasn’t been dotted and ‘T’ crossed; if evey single process hasn’t been followed to the letter. Most of these processes, I would argue were created by the last Government in such a labarynthine way as to deliberately create obsticles and therefore the continuity of their ideals, irresespective of what Government were elected, I’ve had plenty of experience of dealing with the threat of reviews that would make your hair curl. They have impeded desperately needed change and have cost the country £millions.
The use of juducial reviews are anti democratic and get to the heart of who rules Britain – our elected representatives, of the courts.
The whole thing is being misrepresented by the BBC / Guardian axis and, again, the Daily Mail, friends of Gordon Brown who wave a false blue flag.
that should be ‘or the courts’
Here’s a fun one for the hall monitor grammar nazis to play with:
BBC Newsnight @BBCNewsnight
Rockets falling in Tel Aviv could constitute another grim portent for wider Middle East Mark Urban blogs – read here http://bbc.in/U4oNRc
Honest but fair warning on calibre of Mr. Urban’s output?
Ooh-oooh Cuba-love, my Cuba-love
We need you, oh how we need you
When we know the US treats you bad
Blockades you and leaves us sad
Tell us, where did communism go wrong?
Fidel, to make you stay alive so long?
‘Cause Cuba-love, our Cuba-love
Been missing ya, miss kissing ya (ass)
We love your every orchestra
Every drama and ballet school
Every arts initiative
Your health service, bureaucracy, your State security
Instead of swimming away
Getting in little boats and heading Miami way
Need ya, need ya
Cuba-love, ooh, Cuba-love
Cuba-love, our Cuba-love
Why must we separate, my love
All of our BBC whole life through
We never loved no Country but you
Why you do us like you do?
We get this need
Ooh, ooh, need to hold you
Up as a socialist success again, my love
Fidel your warm embrace, my love
Don’t throw our socialism away
Please don’t do us this way
Not happy like we used to be
Since the fall of the Berlin wall
There’s hardly any communism at all!
Loneliness has got the best of us
Our love, our Cuba-love
We need you, oh how we need you
Why you do us like you do?
After we’ve been so true to you
So deep in love with you
Cuba, Cuba, ooh ’til it’s hurtin’ us
‘Til it’s hurtin’ us
Ooh, Cuba-love
Don’t throw our love away
Don’t throw communism away
Beyond inherent interest of the article, I also note the rating system at least prevents ‘liking’ your own posts…
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/19/the_virus_that_ate_the_bbc/
Of course, as the comments show, it does not prevent those at work being rallied to support the business model.
Sorry if this has already been reported:
BBC’s jew hater Donnision tweets a photo of a dead girl from the Syrian civil war – tries to pass it off as a Gazan killed by those evil jooos. Tweeted to his 7000 followers.
http://bbcwatch.org/2012/11/19/bbcs-jon-donnison-tweets-malicious-fauxtography/
This should be headline news. Worse than McAlpine IMHO.
It has.
No worries.
Agree.
Oh, and they have just compounded that one.
BBC have got to start sacking these people.
“The BBC is not responsible for publishing propaganda supplied to us by third parties. We trust them all implicitly – except for @#$%ing Israel, whose statements we always qualify, when we’re not dismissing them outright as propaganda – and expect our sources to get it about right. After all, we’ve trained them well. When they don’t it’s their fault, not ours for being gullible, willing shills. Which we’re not. And you can trust us on that. Really. And anyway, we get complaints from both sides. In fact, we just got one saying that Donnison’s tweet was biased in favor of Israel because he didn’t mention Israel’s plans for genocide.”
In doing some research on the BBC, and twitter, I was reminded of this thread, with some comments to it (before closing) being… germane…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2012/02/twitter_guidelines_for_bbc_jou.html
The bBC, defending Islam and those pesky Asians again
Possession, Jinn and Britain’s backstreet exorcists
UK health and social workers and those in the criminal justice system are increasingly having to understand belief in spiritual possession among ethnic minorities, with new research highlighting a particular issue with some sections of the British Asian community blaming mental health problems on the supernatural.
Now,lets look at the names of those British Asians:
Mudasar Khan
Abou Mohammed
Nadeem
Naila Mumtaz
Mohammed Mumtaz
Hammad Hassan
Nasir Mehmood
and then there’s this little elephant in the room:
“I cure them by this book [the Koran]. You have to have a faith in it and it will work. So yes, anxiety, depression, heart problems, many, believe me, many problems get cured by this healing.””
and the bBC even comes out with this:
“The Asian groups, particularly the British Pakistanis, then attribute their problem to a religious cause, for instance, possession by a Jinn. So they seek help through the Imams, through the mosque,”
So even with all that evidence which points at Muslims, the bBC continue to say
Asians
The bBC, a third world news agency for a third world people living in the First world
………… and the bBC even comes out with this:
“The Asian groups, particularly the British Pakistanis, then attribute their problem to a religious cause, for instance, possession by a Jinn. So they seek help through the Imams, through the mosque,” ………………..
Upon reading the article it is clear that the above quote is from Professor Swaran Singh, head of the Mental Health and Wellbeing division at Warwick Medical School.
Also if you have read the full article why did you not include the following excerpt:
“British Muslims in particular are brought up learning of the existence of Jinn in the Koran, though what the Jinn actually are is not universally agreed upon. “
Ah, another example of how multiculturalism ‘enriches’ our society.
Nick Robinson @bbcnickrobinson
Warm welcome for @Ed_Miliband’s pledge to “fight your corner to stay in EU and to reform the EU” at #CBI2012
I was tempted to tweet back and ask this professional ‘news’ editor ‘from whom?’, but would probably get blocked.
I would imagine the “warm welcome” was from the delegates at the CBI Conference rather than from Nick Robinson himself. Then again I do not seek to find bias where none exists.
‘I do not seek to find bias’
[Note: due to space constraints, this has been edited to fit]
Coming to a site with that as it’s first word seems an odd pastime at best then.
Anyway, as we are referring to the written output of a professional Editor, may I suggest this is a pretty daft defence to make:
‘I would imagine the “warm welcome” was from the delegates at the CBI Conference rather than from Nick Robinson himself.’
Because your ongoing imagination vs. informed opinion via Mr. Robinson rather makes my point for me.
For the pedants I will rephrase: Delegates at the CBI Conference warmly welcomed Ed Millibands pledge. No matter who tweeted how is that evidence of bias. That is my informed opinion. Perhaps you can explain how it is less valid then yours.
I’m going to agree with Albaman on this one. Plenty of other things to bust Robinson on.
Good for you David… good for you. I am sure Albaman will be thrilled to have you onside. Prole may be conflicted, mind.
Ed to reform the Eu.
Just like that, Toenails, just like that eh.
He doesn’t even understand what the EU is going to be yet, though there’s a fair degree of certainty the 17 Eurozone countries will form a dominant core which moves closer and closer to political integratio, ,whilst the rest sit on the sidelines and wait for what gets thrown at them.
So in order for him to have any influence over Europe as (crosses himself) PM, well, fill in the blanks.
It will be interesting to see if this latest act of policy-free kite flying gets a thorough examination by our fearless and impartial interviewers at the BBC.