180 Responses to OPEN THREAD

  1. pounce says:

    I was watching the TV today and Lyse Doucet came on about how a bridge linking Northern Gaza have been blown up and thus cutting off Northen Gaza from Southern Gaza. Hey don’t take my word for it take her’s
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-20422747
    Really intrigued me how somebody can claim that Gaza has been split in two by the destruction of a bridge which is not only on the coast but is a land where actually there are no major river. So I went to goofle maps and found the only bridge on the coastal highway (along with the only inlet into the strip) and guess what walk 50 meters back from the bridge, walk down that path, follow it around the inlet and guess what you end up on the otherside. Time to accomplish the task not even 5 mins. Hey some hardship in having to walk down that short path, but to claim that north Gaza has been cut off from Southern Gaza is a big fat lie.

    To find that bridge on google maps, head for Gaza, look to the middle and the town of Nuseirat. Using the name as the centre of a clock go to 10 O/clock on the coast. Zoom in on the only bridge on the coastal highway and see at first hand how the bBC lies for Islamic terrorists.

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    • NotaSheep says:

      Thanks for that, I have done the lookup on Google maps and you seem to be correct. This looks like an example of the BBC deliberately misrepresenting the truth. Have you complained to the BBC yet? If not, may I?

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      • Guest Who says:

        ‘Have you complained to the BBC yet? If not, may I?’
        I don’t think there’s a limit to numbers.
        Well, unless you’re expedited. Or blocked.
        Ask Lunchtime Loather. Or… you!
        And, if all else fails, there’s… Jim Dandy.

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    • Span Ows says:

      Hilarious, when you look at the map you see other roads come inland before the bridge and the next road bridge is barely a kilometre north east from that bridge (not including foot crossings)

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    • Span Ows says:

      And the other possibilities are the several other crossings from any of the roads that criss-cross Gaza, I count five places all decent roads all within less than 2km inland from the coast in Nuseirat or Bureij. If she is on about another bridge nearer Gaza city then she even less of a leg to stand on. Unbelievable.
      IsraelGazaGoogleMaps.png

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      • Misterned says:

        So they are less cut off from one part of town to the other than the poor folk of Workington were when there bridge was washed away by floods killing PC barker?

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  2. pounce says:

    Says it all about the bBC:

    ..hearing all mosques in #Gaza will broadcast “Allahu Akbar” at 2100 once ceasefire comes into effect..— lyse doucet (@bbclysedoucet) November 21, 2012

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    • Alex says:

      Why is the BBC so obsessed with Muslims. Every bloody BBC News bulletin has at least one ‘Allah Akbar’. Personally, I am sick of hearing it. I’d rather hear ‘more tea vicar’!

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    • Earls Court says:

      Someone needs to remind the BBC people who tweet this stuff what treason is
      Also what happens when you offend Gods chosen people.

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    • George R says:

      INBBC’s Lyse Doucet, joining in Islamic Jihadist Hamas spirit of things in Gaza, wrongly translates the Islamic shout of ‘Allah Akbar’ as God is great. No, Ms Doucet, you should know by now, from your long stay in Islamic countries, that a closer translation is ‘Allah is the greater’.

      This underlays Muslim crusade to Islamise the world : to prove that their ‘allah is greater’ than any god of the non-Islamic, and lesser people.

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    • They were similar on News 24 when we went to the live Hamas press conference. Plenty of “we showed them” and “we’ve won” type phrases from Hamas which couldn’t be hid as it was a live translation.

      Strangely enough none of that made it to the BBC newsreaders summary of what had just been said when they decided to leave the speech.

      Then we had the comments about the celebrations of the ceasefire in the street.

      No they weren’t. They’re celebrating the notion that they’ve defeated the Israelis.

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  3. Alex says:

    Can’t remember the BBC reporting this foul horror:

    http://www.burnleyexpress.net/news/local-news/jail-for-burnley-man-who-raped-schoolgirl-1-5130517

    Too busy bashing the CoE and praising the PC Brigade report out, today.

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    • ROBERT BROWN says:

      Did you see those gaza scum towing bodies behind mopeds? Oh for an Israeli chopper gunship, and spray them with 30mm cannon shells, smear the foul creatures over the road and walls. The cease-fire is a sham, go in and finish the job Israel, no mercy, do not worry what the wretched world thinks.

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      • Invicta 1066 says:

        Notice the BBC showed just a still picture with a comment they had been executed. Sanitising this awful act is disgraceful.

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    • RCE says:

      Four years.

      And when someone does a Brevik people will wonder why.

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  4. Reed says:

    Spiralling BBC legal fees leave licence fee payers out of pocket
    Over the last 10 years, the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) has spent at least £18,580,040 in legal costs – absorbing the revenue extracted from 129,553 license fee payers

    http://www.thecommentator.com/article/2102/spiralling_bbc_legal_fees_leave_licence_fee_payers_out_of_pocket

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  5. Alex M says:

    It occurred to me whilst thinking about the events in the news this week (specifically Israel/Gaza and the Church of England’s vote on women bishops) that there are different types of bias exhibited by the BBC. I thought it might be interesting to try to define different categories and came up with the following three:

    The first category includes those issues where the bias seems to be driven purely by the ideology of the organisation. These are often the most striking examples of bias, and also often seem so one-sided as to appear deliberate. Issues that fall into this category include UK party politics, Israel, US party politics, and climate change.

    In the second category are those issues where there is not necessarily any conscious bias, but where the BBC simply seems to believe that all right-thinking people think the same thing. This, I think, applies to women bishops (where I have seen/heard a number of reports where only a supporter of the change has been interviewed), and to a subject such as tax avoidance by multinationals (where entire discussions take place around how it can be prevented, with it taken for granted that it is wrong). Possibly Europe falls into this second category too.

    The third category includes issues where the BBC probably has no opinion of the issue, but where taking a particular line is more sensational or emotive. This would explain, for example, why every health scare one can think of (BSE, MMR, GM foods) is always presented as the Government trying to cover up the facts and putting the public at risk, regardless of which party is in office. This sensationalism is, of course, common to many areas of the media, and it can be argued that it is not strictly biased as there is no ideological agenda behind it. However, it’s effect is to lead to a lack of balance in the reporting of the issues, which the BBC is bound by its charter to provide.

    I’m not sure if anyone else would agree with my categories above, but I would be interested to hear others’ thoughts. Obviously, for many issues there is an overlap between two, or even three, of the categories.

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    • Teddy Bear says:

      My thoughts on this are to consider what might be the motives of any particular bias, by what the BBC appears to gain by it.

      1. To be a world media outlet, and protect themselves from attack they need to appease Muslims. To cover their ‘cowardice’ and treachery they have to pretend that they truly respect ‘the religion of peace’.

      2. Green issues, besides financial interests of their own, allows them to present themselves as caring and concerned about the planet – ‘civilised’, even if there’s little basis for their conclusions.

      3. The bigger the state the UK is part of, the more power the BBC has. So we get into pro EU, Labour, UN etc.

      4. It has to be against the Church. The only force the BBC wants to see dominating hearts, minds and souls of beings is itself. This is also where if nothing else happened to force a change, the BBC would become a cropper because of number 1. For the time being they’re too chicken shit to think they need to deal with it right now.

      Any story that falls outside their usual bias is an opportunity to present themselves as civilised, caring and concerned. One only needs to look at how they treat society to know this is pure hypocrisy.

      They are foul evil scum, and we show evidence of it every day.

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  6. Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

    News at Ten, carries a trail for the soon to follow saVILE programme, saying that he was able ( ty to edwina currie)
    to blackmail the staff at broadmoore.
    Now then, is it possible he had info on others in much bigger organisations?….I just wonder…..

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    • pounce says:

      What do you know those 6 men arrested in High Wycombe on sex offences against children all have names which point towards a certain religion of peace:
      Iblal Fiaz, 21, Khasim Fiaz, 22, Kasam Dadd, 23, Mohammed Adnan, 21, Janaid Sharif, 26, Mudasser Hussain, 28, and Mohammed Jubroin Khan, 21, have been charged with a total of 32 offences.
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-20435736

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      • Chop says:

        Mo count: 2/6…..not a bad ratio.

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      • Maturecheese says:

        I was never in any doubt! The mere fact that the religion or race of the perpetrators wasn’t mentioned on the BBC made it obvious.

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        • Grimer says:

          To be fair, when the BBC failed to mention the race or religion it meant it was either a black street gang or RoPers.

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    • Dave666 says:

      Good to see ITV keeping Savile in the spotlight. To me it seems it’s all quiet at the Anti Beeb

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  7. PhilO'TheWisp says:

    There is some traffic on the previous thread regarding off topic posts. I posted OT today on a Wednesday afternoon bill in HoC on BBC transparency because the previous open thread was 7 or 8 threads ago and were running at c.100 comments. I don’t follow many two day old posts and other than going OT am not sure how to introduce a new thread. I do know from experience however that new subjects, if relevant, are picked up as a new thread so it does work. The alternative might be a daily open thread but this would also be unwieldy. More experienced folk than I may have the solution? Just saying!

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    • Alex says:

      I rarely have the time to visit this (great!) site any more and so can only spare a few minutes here and there which, I’m afraid, means that I have to post anywhere I can. I do apologize for those who spend great lengths of time on here as I know that shorter and less thorough postings can get in the way of the more in-depth study/analysis…. but, in my opinion, so long as we are criticizing BBC bias, hypocrisy, lies and cover-ups etc, I don’t see too much of a problem – and, of course, others can skip if they don’t like.

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  8. Aerfen says:

    I am tired of every thread being about the Middle East!
    The BBC continues to reveal bias in many other ways, theyre getting in a right lather about the decison not to have women bishops. Why do they care? None of them are Church of England anyway!

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    • Gunn says:

      Women bishops (and priests) will, over time, subvert the essential teachings of the church and undermine it (this has already happened in various denominations where it is permitted). The church goes from being a religious institution based on 2000 years of tradition to a feel good club.

      The left supports anything that reduces the role of christianity in day to day life, preferring their own secular ‘liberal’ (and usually atheist) creed.

      Given that, it shouldn’t be a huge surprise why the BBC hates the outcome of the recent vote.

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      • johnnythefish says:

        Not too sure about that, Gunn, judging by the number of leftie Christians I hear spouting socialist crap (often on the BBC).

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    • musosnoop says:

      Me to.
      This site used to be good as it showed bias from many areas of the BBC. Its now just a run of the mill political blog focusing far to much on what a handful of BBC journalists write. I’m gobsmacked by how they miss from the BBCs out put. Neither does this blog ever mention what can be done about the BBC. Do you see any articles about forcing the BBC to go subscription – which is the only way the BBCs immense power will ever be curtailed. That message alone should be hammered home for the casual visitor to the site. The public will buy in to it – they wont be buying in to this heavy duty political analysis around here. Its just a few people talking to each other – the echo chamber effect.

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      • Jim Dandy says:

        Odd but true. I think a temporary lull in activity from the ever stimulating Mr Vance is to blame. One can have a little too much of Alan.

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        • Guest Who says:

          One can have a little too much of Alan.
          But to [sic] cannot get enough of each other in his honour if there’s a tag team opportunity. Apparently.
          I, know… you are merely trying to improve the site via your right to free speech, and I am stalking you and should be banned.
          This ‘unique’ lark really does have many applications. Odd but true.
          ps: Muso… at time of writing, you forgot to like Jim back… bad form.

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      • Guest Who says:

        ‘Me to.
        This site used to be good… I’m gobsmacked by how [much?] they [who?] miss from the [BBC’s] [output]. [Nor] does this blog ever mention what can be done about the BBC [Really?]… [It’s] just a few people talking to each other [like the Donnison & Wyre show?] – the echo chamber effect.

        And they say irony is dead.
        Plus, where’s Prole when someone needs him?
        ps: Glad to see the ‘like’ balance restored.

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      • Teddy Bear says:

        Looks like you really see a ‘hole in the market’
        I suggest you start the very blog you envision.
        You know what they say, ‘build a better mousetrap and they will flock to your door’.

        Can’t wait to see the results.

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    • It's all too much says:

      I have been following – and posting on – this blog for years and I also feel that the middle east does tend to dominate, as does anything to do with Islam. But the site does provide a forum for discussion of BBC bias which does not exist elsewhere and you can post on any aspect of bias you identify. More strength to its arm.

      Personally I would like to see a bit more attention paid to the really insidious BBC strategy, exposed in 28gate, of shoe-horning fundamentalist new PC orthodoxy into everything the BBC does from ‘comedy’ through to science programming.

      AS I see it the BBC is an active agent for change. It does not represent the views of the British population it leads them. It decides what is news, it decides the parameters of modern morality (e.g. bible in the bin in room 101 but not the Koran) and ruthlessly plays this. It is statist, socialist, self congratulatory to the point a nausea and incompetent.

      Worst of all it is crap and I have to pay for it. This site whilst occasionally dominated by the middle east, Islam and America is one of the few places on the net where we can flag these issues freely. I am sure that noting will change as a result but it is a start to know that others also see the BBC chiseling away at the foundations of our society in an effort to ‘change us for the better’

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      • Roland Deschain says:

        Does the Middle East dominate? At the moment, yes, but that’s because it’s currently the main news item. A week ago you couldn’t move on this site for Lord McAlpine. It simply reflects current issues.

        Having said that, I do miss Robin’s excellent pieces on “climate change”.

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      • wallygreeninker says:

        It’s a frequent complaint that there are too many comments on this site concerned with Islam but there is good reason for this, so here’s another one;
        1/ It’s adherents are involved in a dozen – if not dozens – of trouble spots around the world. The Beeb consistently refuses to make any connection between these conflicts despite the fact that the religious dimension, it ignores, often means they share many common causes and features.
        2/ It is the main reason why the Arab / Israeli conflict can never be resolved (some acquaintance with Islamic doctrine and history is needed to realise this) so that much of the talk, on the Beeb and elsewhere, about permanent peace agreements, as opposed to the only realistic solution, overwhelming deterrence, is unrealistic.

        3/ With large scale Muslim immigration into Europe, the BBC’s pet project – multi-culturalism – may have gone a piece of diversity too far. The Beeb frequently reminds us that concepts of a master race lead to disaster but is out of its depth when dealing with a master religion. (basically, God has told them we are vile and mandated them to dominate us – read the Koran, the verbatim word of God )

        4/ Alone of the major religions, Islam has a confused ethic regarding falsehood: basically its OK when practiced on infidels to further the cause of Islam: given the number of Muslim personnel at the Beeb and the problem of Beeboid reporters becoming the mouthpieces of Muslim informants when working abroad, this is sinister.

        Since people think item 4 is just an expression of blind prejudice, here are some documented discussions of the subject:
        for taqiyya
        http://www.meforum.org/2538/taqiyya-islam-rules-of-war

        kitman as well as taqiyya is discussesd at:

        http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Lying_for_Islam_%28taqiyya%29#Kitman

        for tawriya
        http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/tawriya-lying/

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      • johnnythefish says:

        Personally I would like to see a bit more attention paid to the really insidious BBC strategy, exposed in 28gate, of shoe-horning fundamentalist new PC orthodoxy into everything the BBC does from ‘comedy’ through to science programming’.

        Totally agree. That alone should have triggered an independent inquiry – the BBC conniving in secret with the eco-warmists-socialists to get their propaganda across through every medium and every category of programming, then attempting to cover the whole thing up.

        The question I keep asking though is, who is going to take them on?

        Until somebody does, they will remain ‘The Untouchables’ and continue behaving accordingly.

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        • wallygreeninker says:

          “The BBC held a high level seminar with some of the best scientific experts and has come to the view that the weight of evidence no longer justifies equal space being given to the opponents of the consensus.” -From See-saw to wagon wheel (2007)
          Surely, simply saying that was a direct lie and deserves an inquiry and disciplinary action.

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  9. George R says:

    The self censorship in reporting sex crimes against children.
    1.)
    ‘Daily Mail’:

    “Anger as sex abuse report ‘turns blind eye to Asian gangs’ despite admitting that they account for a QUARTER of all cases.”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2236045/Anger-sex-abuse-report-Sue-Berelowitz-turns-blind-eye-Asian-gangs.html

    2.)

    BBC online tonight:

    “High Wycombe sex abuse inquiry leads to charges”

    [Opening extract]

    “Seven men face a series of charges following an operation targeting alleged child sexual exploitation.

    “The men were detained in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, as part of Thames Valley Police’s Operation Ribbon.

    “Iblal Fiaz, 21, Khasim Fiaz, 22, Kasam Dadd, 23, Mohammed Adnan, 21, Janaid Sharif, 26, Mudasser Hussain, 28, and Mohammed Jubroin Khan, 21, have been charged with a total of 32 offences.”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-20435736

    In all the weaknesses of the following article, ALIBHAI – BROWN shows her loyalties:

    “I would never betray British Asians and Muslims, or portray them unfairly. They are my people.”

    So presumably it’s now politically correct to say:

    ‘I would never betray British people and white people, or portray them unfairly. They are my people.’

    Her whole article in ‘Daily Mail’-

    “Why as a Muslim and a mother I believe it’s so damaging to hide from the truth about Asian sex gangs”

    By YASMIN ALIBHAI – BROWN

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2236081/Why-Muslim-mother-I-believe-damaging-hide-truth-Asian-sex-gangs.html

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    • George R says:

      For BBC-NUJ:-

      ‘Daily Mail’:-

      “Eight men held after dawn raid on suspected Home Counties paedophile ring”

      [Excerpt]:-

      “A gang of Asian men were arrested during pre-dawn raids yesterday on suspicion of being part of a Home Counties paedophile ring.

      “The eight suspects were hauled from their homes at around 5am by 100 officers after a three-month investigation into child exploitation.

      “Police carried out the raids after a teenage girl told them how she had been raped and abused for five years from the age of 12.”

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2235658/Eight-men-held-dawn-raid-suspected-Home-Counties-paedophile-ring.html

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    • Gunn says:

      Its even worse than its painted in the first article you linked to – the figure of 27% of sex crime vs. 6% population is quoted, but if (as is most likely) the majority of those crimes are being committed by pakistani or bangladeshi muslims, then its actually 27% of crime vs. 2% of population (pakistani 1.5%, bangladeshi 0.5%).

      To suggest that this isn’t evidence of a systematic pattern is a brazen lie.

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      • Teddy Bear says:

        Funny how the BBC expresses so much concern about ‘disproportionate’ when it suits them, regardless of context, (Israel/Gaza), and yet is oblivious to it when it really hits them in the face.

        Come to think of it, it’s the same ‘religion of peace’ issue.

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      • Span Ows says:

        27% vs. 1% when you only include males.

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    • Cosmo says:

      Vile woman. Came here to beg us for sanctuary, now never stops whinging and complaining about us.

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  10. George R says:

    “BBC executive helped propose George Entwistle’s £450,000 payoff.
    “HR director Lucy Adams was apparently involved in decision to put forward figure for approval by BBC Trust.”

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/nov/21/bbc-george-entwistle-payoff

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    • GotItAboutRight says:

      Given that the justification for paying BBC execs so much is that they need to attract the best talent to compete against the independent commercial sector, I’m fascinated to see which high-flying job in the independent media George Entwistle is heading towards next.

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      • Framer says:

        George Entwistle, as he said himself, was an honourable man whose only interest the Saturday of his departure was protecting his personal finances.
        Public service indeed.
        He ended up with more of a pay-off than most people earn in 20 years.

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  11. Deborah says:

    Yesterday Humphries was interviewing (I think it was) Sentanu (Archbish of York) regarding women bishops and asked ‘How could you get the wrong result’ (I may be paraphrasing but certainly wrong result was used). Obviously the Church thought it was the right result as that was what they decided. Indeed so much of the output yesterday was due to the BBC’s anger that there would not be women bishops. eg ‘It would be years before the decision could be changed… and then it turned out later they meant 3-5 years before the topic could be reconsidered’. Had the decision gone for women bishops would the BBC have been reporting that it would be years before the decision could be changed? I don’t think so.

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    • As I See It says:

      ‘How could you get the wrong result?’

      In a way Humphrys had a point here. Clearly the greater part of the liberal elite of the CofE are most keen on the idea of women bishops.

      Perhaps the question ought to have been ‘how could the church let the rank and file over rule the leadership?’

      But then the BBC will never support ordinary joes against a ruling liberal elite.

      And ladies, those of you who are keen for the pay rise and the chance to wear purple, don’t worry. This will work like an EU referendum – give the wrong answer and the vote will soon be held again.

      The BBC will help the left to break down resistance.

      I heard a Nicky Campbell guest yesterday who ventured the claim that child sexual abuse was – in some way – caused by society sending out the wrong messages – for instance the CofE not having female bishops.

      I tried to visualise the kebab shop guys and their cousins the minicab drivers discussing the vote in General Sinod and interpreting this as a green light for their habits – but you know what? Not being a lefty or a Beeboid I instinctively disbelieved that tenous argument. But the left will win their way. They are relentless. Disestablish the BBC

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      • Jonathan Wilson says:

        “I heard a Nicky Campbell guest yesterday who ventured the claim that child sexual abuse was – in some way – caused by society sending out the wrong messages – for instance the CofE not having female bishops.”

        Surely if that is the case, which is arguable, then that would be the reason for such a high proportion of muslim sex offences… they don’t have any women at all at any level of their religion.

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        • Sir Arthur Strebe-Grebling says:

          Or Roman Catholic priests?

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          • Jonathan Wilson says:

            Or indeed RC priests of which endless speculation into the causes or causality of the high incidences has been done time and time again by uncle beeb.

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        • wallygreeninker says:

          Changing attitudes (… works for the full inclusion of gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people in the life of the Anglican Communion) has declared gay bishops and woman bishops are firmly on the same agenda so it”s easy to see which bastion will be due for storming, after this one.

          One comment left at Cranmer, yesterday, concerning at least some of those who voted against women bishops, would set Beeboid eyes rolling:

          “”Young women … are bored with ..the feminist agenda masquerading as progress within the synod.”[quoting an earlier comment]

          I think it might be deeper than that. They see that at the heart of it the feminist agenda is deeply anti family and anti Christian. They are not stupid and can see that this message has caused untold pain to the 60s generation.

          Feminism has not worked and they want something better for their children.”

          To the Beeb, the ideas of such a nutter aren’t even worth entertaining on the airwaves.

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    • Ben says:

      There is remarkably little coverage by the BBC IMV of why the CofE lost the vote. There must be substantive issues at play, so much so that a decent number of voters felt the need to say no to the motion, but where is the coverage of it. To someone like me who wasn’t even aware there was a vote, or that women could not be bishops already, it seems as though the whole fiasco was an accident waiting to happen because no-one was paying attention to the real argument (whatever that might be).

      I am surprised about this, I would have expected the BBC to start rummaging around looking for someone to blame, someone who can be labelled as a bigot.

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  12. pounce says:

    The bBC, CO2 emmissions and the facts
    Coal resurgence calls undermine clean energy commitments
    Coal, the dirtiest and most polluting of all the major fossil fuels, is making a comeback. Despite stringent carbon emissions targets in Europe designed to slow global warming and massive investment in renewable energy in China, demand for this most ancient source of energy is greater than ever.
    In fact, coal was the fastest growing form of energy in the world outside renewables last year, with production up 6% on 2010, twice the rate of increase of gas and more than four times that of oil. Consumption data paints a similar picture, while figures for this year are set to tell the same story.

    There are a number of drivers behind coal’s renaissance, many of which may be short lived. Others will push demand ever higher for decades to come.
    ….Equally important, there has been a huge influx of cheap coal from the US, where the discovery of shale gas has provided an even cheaper alternative energy source. The coal has to go somewhere, so it’s exported to Europe.

    So reading the above, coal is making a come-back and guess what folks its all down to the……US.

    1) The biggest producer (and user) of coal in the world is…China: 2.8 billion tons of coal in 2007, or approximately 39.8 percent of all coal produced in the world during that year.For comparison, the second largest producer, the United States, produced more than 1.1 billion tons in 2007.
    2) For all the talk in the article above about how China is investing in clean energy i quote: ”
    China in particular is spending massive amounts of money on a renewable energy drive the likes of which the world has never seen – plans are in place to build almost 10 times the wind capacity of Germany, for example.
    The biggest CO2 producer in the world is…China.

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  13. George R says:

    Will INBBC report this?:-

    “‘I lost my job because I wasn’t Muslim’: Kuwati bank made British boss redundant from six-figure salary job because of his religious beliefs.”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2236508/Kuwati-bank-British-boss-redundant-figure-salary-job-wasnt-Muslim.html

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  14. As I See It says:

    I had to laugh at Richard Bacon the other day. He was discussing some inconsequential comedy show. Bacon ventured his opinion on how it might be improved.

    ‘They could have made the brother gay then he could have fancied the lodger and there would have been some sexual tension with the dad’.

    You have to admit that with Bacon what you see is what you get. He wears his BBC heart on his sleve. I suspect he is also pretty plugged into the way that BBC producers and programme commissioners are thinking.

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  15. Betty Swollocks says:

    Yes I agree ,the BBC are totally obsessed with Muslims,why??? I would prefer it if they were obsessed with Muesli instead. My Jewish friend is shocked by some of the biased reports..well most of them.

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  16. George R says:

    Illegal Immigration into U.K.

    1.) ‘Daily Telegraph’:-

    “UK Border Agency ‘made no effort’ to trace 120,000 missing immigrants.
    “The UK Border Agency made virtually no effort to trace more than 120,000 asylum seekers and migrants, a damning report will say today.”

    By Wesley Johnson, Home Affairs Correspondent.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/9694788/UK-Border-Agency-made-no-effort-to-trace-120000-missing-immigrants.html

    2.) BBC:

    “UKBA attacked over ‘inaccurate’ data given to MPs”
    By Dominic Casciani
    Home affairs correspondent.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20436013

       6 likes

  17. JimS says:

    An example of how the mind of a BBC ‘journalist’ works:

    Poor Reporting (Radio 4, Tuesday 20 November)

    “Nick Fraser asks what it takes to get people in the rich world engaged in the issue of global poverty, ahead of the major TV project ‘Why Poverty’, screening on the BBC in November. Nothing could be more important for the Western media yet, somehow, it never seems to get it right.”

    This ‘journalist’ is not concerned about reporting poverty but how to get people to act on his reporting, in other words he is a campaigner not a reporter and he clearly thinks he has an absolute right to use ‘his’ BBC as a vehicle for change.

    Interstingly some Americans put it to him that he should be reporting ‘aspiration’ not the depressing ‘hand-out required’ reporting that comes so naturally to his kind.

    I can’t help but feel that he would be lost if his poor clientele by proxy were to be helped as then there would be no one to point his camera at.

       11 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      ‘This ‘journalist’ is not concerned about reporting poverty but how to get people to act on his reporting, in other words he is a campaigner not a reporter and he clearly thinks he has an absolute right to use ‘his’ BBC as a vehicle for change.
      The Stuart ‘No worries, it was noted only in the audience log so as Nelson says ‘Har-har’ Hughes effect?

         0 likes

    • johnnythefish says:

      The notorious CMEP group, don’t forget – the one the BBC tried to keep a secret – believes ‘the science is settled’ and they are into the ‘what do we do about it’ stage.

      ‘Social justice’, aka re-distribution of wealth, is one of their top agenda items.

      The ‘science’ is just a smokescreen for eco-socialist, totalitarian government. The warmists always claim the IPCC is about the science, but it is far more about the politics.

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  18. As I See It says:

    BBC man biased in his presentation of a debate?

    This morning Nicky Campbell takes up a story that the Queen has made some remark about motherhood being the most important job for a woman and so makes this idea the subject for his phone in.

    The story is an interesting case in point.
    I notice how certain public figures tend to make so-called ‘gaffs’.

    Now don’t run away with the idea that all of humanity is equally liable to the ambigous off the cuff remark. Not at all. Certain groups are far more prone to these. If you get your news from the BBC I won’t need to remind you that US Republicans, British Royalty and Tories make Gaffs.
    US Democrats and Labour Party MPs are practically immune to the Gaff.

    So by taking up this theme Campbell is buying into the meme that Royalty make gaffs and indeed that the Queen’s remark can be interpreted as wrong.

    Of course Campbell loves his feminism. He has a habit of wearing it like a badge, acting like a virgin fresher just arrived at a trendy University.

    Rachel ‘I won’t sell my house because London prices are likely to rise faster than those in Salford’ Burden has been reporting on some exhibition of prehistoric animals.

    Pantomime Nicky spots a chance for a funny line. He will be covering the issue of motherhood and wonders whether he will be hearing from any “dinosaurs”.

    I don’t suppose for one moment that he would have used that line had he been introducing a debate on…let’s say…. Trades Unionism.

       15 likes

    • Glen Slagg says:

      It’s (not) funny how any opinion offered that doesn’t match the opinion of the Hampstead metrosexual elite is reported as a “gaffe”. It’s all part of the swivel eyed left wing’s strategy of closing down unapproved debate on anything. How many of Churchill’s enduring quotes would, today, be dismissed by the media as “gaffes”?

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  19. pounce says:

    The bBC and its pro EU propganda
    Viewpoints: How experts see UK role in EU
    The bBC brings to the table a host of experts explaining what ills will befall the Uk if they vote to leave the EU. After reading all of this I asked myself why? Why are all these people speaking out against the Uk from voting to leave the EU? You know how the peoples of the US voted in Obama, Gaza ,Hamas, Eygpt the Muslim Brotherhood and France ..Hollande. It appears that everybody according to the experts are allowed to vote for self determination except the Uk. why is that?

    So back to why? Could it be that the UK is one of the biggest contributors to the EU budget (Love the facts and figures part where the bBC points out the EU employs less people than the inland revenue) and without the money coming in from the Uk, the EU would have find money from elsewhere or cut spending.

    But instead the bBC, just says free speech for all except the UK . Funny enough that is exactly what the Labour party said when they were in power.

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  20. joshaw says:

    Did anyone see the attempt to interview the new Archbishop of Canterbury elect outside Church House yesterday? I think it was on Sky.

    He was having none of it and at one point I thought he was going to tell the reporter to piss off.

    I’m not religious in any shape or form but I think I might like this guy – particularly if he’s got the bluntness and the guts to stand up to the BBC.

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  21. Ben says:

    http://www.thecommentator.com/article/2109/shocking_bbc_bias_as_eu_summit_gets_underway

    BBC up to its usual standard of unbiased reporting. LOL!

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  22. Guest Who says:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20441171
    ‘Mr Fry said that he had felt it in the best interests of the BBC and licence fee-payers to agree and get a new acting director general in place.’
    It’s worse than that Jim… comments are, here, open…

       3 likes

  23. Jim Dandy says:

    Tony Hall new DG.

    He’s been vg at ROH.

       2 likes

    • GotItAboutRight says:

      His wikipedia entry suggests that he was for a time the highest paid Chief Executive of any charity in the UK, so it certainly sounds as if he’ll fit right in.

      Btw, did anyone else enjoy Michael Gove asking if he’d live to see a comprehensively-educated BBC Director-General or editor of The Guardian in his lifetime?

         12 likes

      • Roland Deschain says:

        Ah yes. From the BBC to Royal Opera House to BBC. He’ll fit in nicely.

        I like this from Wikipedia about his tenure at Royal Opera: “His salary increased from £165,000 to £205,000 between 2010 and 2011, making him the highest paid Chief Executive of any charity in the UK. His emoluments for management of the Royal Opera House exceeded £390,000 per annum during the years ending 29 August 2010 and 2011 respectively.

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    • Guest Who says:

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20441887
      Comments are open.
      If they closed quickly… that would be awkward, eh?
      Some already wondering if the process was legal.
      Me, I am just passing on questions being asked.

         6 likes

      • Guest Who says:

        If they closed quickly… that would be awkward, eh?
        Arf.
        This entry is now closed for comments
        First Comment –
        1. david williams
        6 HOURS AGO
        Wonder what he’ll want to resign/be fired when the next cock-up arrises?

        Last comment:
        437. MCGibbo
        2 HOURS AGO
        @beammeup, I don’t watch the BBC anyway. Last thing I watched by the BBC was The Shadowline and I rented that on Blu ray! Still have to pay TV Licence though, Question Time is ok but I’ve never managed to actually get into the audience, I feel no loyalty or love for the BBC anymore. I used to think they were great but they seem to have gone downhill since they bottled it over the sexed up dossier.

        So that would make it up around lunchtime and dead by four?
        Making it so the BBC closes their ‘interactive’ thread on the new DG before anyone in the UK without access to a PC at work gets home.

        Unique.
        For fun… most liked (of those not ‘referred’… a lot. They didn’t seem to like the direction the debate on not paying the fee legally was headed):
        74. Phil
        6 HOURS AGO
        Dear BBC,

        Just make sure he can be fired for less than a million should he prove incompetent, please.

        Kind Regards,
        A Licence Fee Payer

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    • johnnythefish says:

      Another inbred.

         2 likes

  24. Sir Arthur Strebe-Grebling says:

    That’s just what we need to correct all the failings of BBC News … a former head of BBC News. (:

       11 likes

    • PhilO'TheWisp says:

      Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.
      Won’t get fooled again.

      (Courtesy of The Who)

         10 likes

      • johnnythefish says:

        Wonder if a bit more common sense has been used in drawing up his contract this time?

           1 likes

    • Daphne Anson says:

      The BBC editorial guidelines on impartiality say, in part:
      “When dealing with controversial subjects concerning the BBC, our reporting must remain duly impartial, as well as accurate and fair. We need to ensure the BBC’s impartiality is not brought into question and presenters or reporters are not exposed to potential conflicts of interest….”
      Yet when Philip somebody (sorry, I’m sure he’s somebody whose name I should know but I didn’t catch it) was interviewed by newsreader Clive Myrie earlier this evening, regarding the appointment of Tony Hall as the BBC’s new director-general, and expressed concern that Hall has been selected with no attempt to advertise the post and suggested that BBC Trust chairman Lord Patten, who did the selecting, has rushed to appoint Hall in order to safeguard his own position, Myrie laughed, and (drawing the interview to an emphatic close) mockingly told Philip that “Now we’re getting to the nub of the matter” or something very similar.
      This is not the first time Myrie seemed in a mirthful mood this week – when interviewing Evening Standard defence correspondent Robert Fox earlier this week over the Israel/Gaza situation he got a tad giggly, at an inappropriate stage in the dialogue too.
      Myrie’s a good interviewer, but this week he seems to be letting himself down.

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  25. wallygreeninker says:

    Slightly grotesque report on an epidemic of gang rape in the Paris bainlieux, on R4 Today, in which Zubeida Malik, our girl on the spot, manages to cover the subject without mentioning the words immigrant, North African, Algerian, Arab or Muslim once.Since the story was brought about by an outcry over light sntences and acquitals handed out to 14 men for a rape committed in the suburb of Fontenoy sous Bois a decade ago, I idly tried to look up the name of the defendants: because one is also being charged with murder his name turned up in an NY Times report: Mahamadou Doucouré.
    For a better idea of what is going on a Time article from 2002 entitled ‘Sisters in hell’ may prove more enlightening:
    “Banlieue males may adopt the lifestyles of other French youths — pop music, fast cars and pornography — but they also frequently embrace the traditional prejudices of their immigrant parents when it comes to women: any neighborhood girl who smokes, uses makeup or wears attractive clothes is a whore.”
    More background, which our Zubeida didn’t bother to impart:

    “Another factor is the bleak prospects facing men from the banlieues. Most are first-generation French, the sons of parents who arrived in the 1950s and ’60s from Tunisia, Algeria, Spain and sub-Saharan Africa. Unemployment rates among these young men range from 20% to 50%, versus 9% nationally, and the banlieusards often feel shunned by mainstream French society. The location of banlieues outside affluent cities enhances the sense of alienation, and police are loath to patrol the areas for fear of violence. The result: civility and order in many banlieues have broken down, and bands of young men feel they can attack women with impunity.”

    She didn’t just tip toe around this aspect of the subject: she omitted it wholesale. Given it’s significance in explaining the phenomenon that amounts to lying,

    Today report (for 7 days, 2hr 39mins in):

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01nxwmh

    Time article (Sisters in hell):
    http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,393601,00.html

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    • Kyoto says:

      Yes it was an appalling piece and the fact at no time did she interview – I suspect she never even tried – one of the gang members indicated that she had already reached her conclusion beforehand or was to frightened to meet the gang members.

      I was particularly sickened by the fact at the end she got round to a) blaming the French society; and b) how these perceptions of these youths was creating an unfair and unjust stereotype. So their vile activities of in her words a ‘minority’ were implicty put at the same level as those (and I assume here it would be the white French majority) who carry around the stereotype about these gangs. Can’t see the equivalence myself.

         10 likes

  26. As I See It says:

    BBC DG : no interviews or selection process necessary.

    I guess it’s just a matter of being ‘right-thinking’ and who you know.

    http://www.cloreleadership.org/page.php?id=219

    ‘The Clore Leadership Programme, founded by Dame Vivien Duffield, today announced 21 new Fellows who have just started the Programme’

    ‘The Fellows started their Programme in September (2010) at a residential leadership course at Bore Place in Kent, at which guest speakers included Alan Davey (Arts Council England), Adrian Ellis (Jazz at Lincoln Centre New York), Vicky Featherstone (National Theatre of Scotland), Tony Hall (Royal Opera House), Michael Kaiser (Kennedy Center Washington DC), Patrick McKenna (Ingenious Media Group), Julia Middleton (Common Purpose) and Nicholas Serota (Tate)’

    “In these uncertain and challenging times, the cultural sector needs resilient, creative, skilled and entrepreneurial leaders more than ever. The Clore Leadership Programme can help develop leaders with the confidence, networks and knowledge to create opportunities, forge partnerships and foster an environment where creativity can flourish.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clore_Leadership_Programme

    ‘The founding Director of the Clore Leadership Programme was Chris Smith (Labour) , who from 1997–2001 had been Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport. In July 2008 he stepped down and was succeeded as Director by Sue Hoyle. The current Chair is Sir John Tusa, former Managing Director of the BBC World Service and Barbican Centre.’

       8 likes

    • wallygreeninker says:

      “Julia Middleton (Common Purpose)” – I suppose conspiracy wonks will be disappointed that she wasn’t running the whole shebang but even the Grauniad thinks there’s some truth in that Daily Mail dossier on the octopus-like tentacles of these “high minded” (i.e left leaning elitist) networks and that Julia, among others, needs keeping an eye on.

      http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/nov/16/daily-mail-dossier

         4 likes

    • Jim Dandy says:

      Clore is not a good source for your left wing conspiracy story, trus me. The link between it and Hall is that the Founder is also a major benefactor of the RoH.

         1 likes

    • johnnythefish says:

      In other words, part of the network of elite Leftist groups who are infesting and undermining the country like galloping dry rot.

      CMEP, anyone?

         4 likes

  27. As I See It says:

    Anti-PM minded BBC man Norman Smith opines again on BBC News 24

    Now he is in Europe banging on and on about Cameron being isolated in Europe.

    You have to hand it to the Beeboids, they pick up on a slogan and stick with it.

    Meanwhile the subtitles refer to other nations that want spending cuts. So the PM is isolated?

    Cough cough!

       10 likes

  28. Stewart S says:

    “BBC Appoints Tony Hall As New Director-General
    Who he?”
    “The actor, Stephen Fry, also approved the decision, writing on Twitter: “I think Tony Hall is a really good DG choice, TBH. He’s not a ‘process’ man, he’s behind the best of BBC’s digital moves in the past.”
    Doesnt sound good
    Of to work now expect full briefing on my return @00.30hrs

       7 likes

  29. Beeboidal says:

    Well Harriet Harman likes him.

    Harriet Harman ‏@HarrietHarman
    Tony Hall excellent choice for BBC DG. Right person to bring stability in these difficult times. Look forward to working with him

    Susceptible to your Dimbleby nudge, is he Harriet? Twitter needs to know.

    Roger Thornhill ‏@rogthornhill
    @HarrietHarman you should not “work with” #BBC DG – their role is to hold you to account. Fat chance.

    Rob Billington ‏@Robbill123
    @HarrietHarman thought you worked for the labour party and that the bbc was independent of politics. Explain yourself.

    polivios poli ‏@paulpoli1969
    @HarrietHarman he a labour man ?

       13 likes

    • George R says:

      Apparently, Tony Hall is a friend of the political left.

      His salary at Opera House is over £390,000 a year.
      Has he come back to BBC for £450,000 a year?

         6 likes

      • Jim Dandy says:

        He’s a cross bencher in the Lords. His salary isn’t 390k.

           2 likes

      • Sir Arthur Strebe-Grebling says:

        Have a sick-bag handy, or preferably a bucket, if you’re going to watch any of the bBBC News 24 coverage of Hall’s appointment. They have one beeboid after another telling us how Hall is the most perfect human being in the entire world.
        But the most telling comment came from ex-Chairman Sir Christopher Bland, saying that Entwistle’s biggest mistake was to agree to be interviewed by Humphreys.
        So, it’s OK for the bBBC to let loose its attack-dogs on anyone else who they don’t like, but they shouldn’t face them themselves?

           19 likes

        • Daphne Anson says:

          They demand transparency of other organisations, but retain the right to conduct their own affairs behind frosted glass.
          I wonder whether this Hall chap had an editorial line on Israel-Palestine when he directed their news.

             7 likes

        • Sidleybird says:

          I know right. I turned on the radio to hear panegyrics of praise pouring forth and thought, “Is this the Second Coming? Has some medical hero found the cure for cancer? Or has some scientific genius found a new source of free, inexhaustible energy?” Sadly no; the BBC has appointed a new Director General. That’s all folks.

             9 likes

      • George R says:

        HALL’s BBC earnings are: £532,000 a year.

           2 likes

  30. Daphne Anson says:

    More jejune and subjective “analysis” from the execrable Bowen:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-20441803

       3 likes

  31. lojolondon says:

    I thought you’d enjoy this quote from the BBC regarding the new Director General –

    “He is an outsider – as Lord Patten, the chairman of the BBC Trust, said he wanted – but he also worked at the BBC for many years, latterly as director of BBC News, where he launched Radio 5 live and the BBC News Channel.”

    A strange perspective on ‘an outsider’, eh??

       10 likes

    • Roland Deschain says:

      According to the BBC news page, the Most Important Story In The World right now is the appointment of the new DG.

      Navel-gazing again. I doubt most people give two hoots.

         9 likes

    • Doublethinker says:

      Only the BBC and Lord P could possible think that someone who had worked for the BBC for 30 years , yes THIRTY YEARS, could possibly be regarded as an outsider. Patten said a week ago that the BBC needing shaking up from top to bottom so he goes and appoints an ex BBC man to do the shaking. Either he is stupid or he is a BBC supporter and not the representative of the License Payer that he is supposed to be.
      So, as many suspected, the BBC is well on course to ride out Savilegate and Newsnightgate with only superficial damage and a man overboard. But the new skipper is a great seaman and navigator and a familiar face .The crew are ecstatic because its clearly going to be business as usual, no real changes , plenty of License Fee payers money to keep the wages coming in and pensions secure. Now they are free once more to focus on :
      a) ensuring a Labour Victory next time round, very important ‘cos don’t want anyone awkward in power when the Charter negotiations are coming up in 2016
      b) promoting multiculturalism by ramming it down our throats as every possible opportunity
      Please note multiculturalism in BBC speak means anything that isn’t British and preferably not European.
      c) ensuring that the populace is brainwashed to accept ever more ‘liberal policies’ and increased public spending , even if we are bust , some of which will naturally go to the most loved and trusted broadcaster in the world.
      How have they got away with it ? Why have the Timid Tories not seized the opportunity of Savilegate and Newsnightgate to radically change the BBC ?

         14 likes

      • Sir Arthur Strebe-Grebling says:

        52% of the public think George Entwistle’s replacement should come from outside the BBC according to last weekend’s YouGov poll.

           8 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      ‘A strange perspective on ‘an outsider’, eh??’
      Well this is a ‘news’ organisation that only today managed get a headline ‘truce’ as ‘holding’, on the basis (of their own story), that one side had observed it and the other had, again, ‘only’ lobbed a few rockets over.

         2 likes

    • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

      Yes, they have gotten so used to insulting our intelligence they are totally unable to cease.
      what’s more they can do it with a straight face!

         3 likes

      • Daphne Anson says:

        Talking of not being able to keep a straight face, I’ve just posted something about Clive Myrie’s laughter during two interviews he was conducting this week – one re Tony Hall, the other re Israel/Gaza (apologies, I probably should have scrolled down and posted it in this part of this thread).

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  32. George R says:

    High-cost BBC greenies go to Hollywood for their propaganda:

    “Robert Redford’s new hope for climate change deal”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20404765

    Talking about high-cost greenie propagandists:-

    “‘Hands off our trough!’ says WWF’s UK boss”
    By James Delingpole.

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100190697/hands-off-our-trough-says-wwfs-uk-boss/

       4 likes

    • George R says:

      ‘Breitbart’:-

      “REDFORD CALLS CLIMATE CHANGE DENIERS ‘NARROW … IDEOLOGICALLY DRIVEN'”

      By Christian Toto.

      [Excerpt]:-

      “Those who believe wholeheartedly in climate change aren’t driven by ideology at all, of course. They think if it’s a snowy winter or a hot summer it’s due to climate change. Any powerful storm is also the result of climate change. So, too, is a less than snowy winter or a streak of super-hot days in August.
      “Heck, just about any weather change can be chalked up to climate change. And that there is rock-solid science, not ideology. ”

      http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2012/11/20/redford-climate-change

         6 likes

  33. Roland Deschain says:

    Tit pox ‘spread to UK by insects’

    I can guess why that one’s Number 4 in the Most Read news story at the moment. Some will be disappointed when it turns out not to be the birds they were expecting.

       1 likes

    • johnnythefish says:

      Loved the way the BBC newsreader bird pronounced ‘Great Tit’ with the emphasis on the ‘Tit’.

      They know how to do comedy alright.

         1 likes

  34. George R says:

    EGYPT.

    INBBC didn’t see it coming:-

    Muslim Brotherhood-Mursi set up dictatorship:

    “Egypt’s President Mursi assumes sweeping powers”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-20451208

    This political development will have no negative impact whatsoever on INBBC’s Cairo Bureau and how it reports on behalf of Muslim Brotherhood-Mursi.

       2 likes

    • noggin says:

      yep! … we tried to tell you alert 😀
      but … anyway Hamas press conferences
      are “way to go” for al bbc, and all presses stopped
      for meetings of the insane genocidal minds,
      between egypt/gaza … treated just like the fascist supremacists they are 😀 …
      what next al bbc news 24 specials, every time they meet? eh!, wheel out barbera plett … and head for the “shallow end” of the news room?

         4 likes

  35. JaneTracy says:

    I see that Stephanie “floundering” Flanders is taking a battering in the comments to her blog post on the EU budget.

    “but that £500m is not just small relative to Britain’s economy, it’s small relative to the increase we have already seen in Britain’s net contribution to the EU. Our net payment more than doubled between 2006 and 2011, from just under £4bn to more than £8bn. ”

    Not only is Euro lover Steph forgeting that £500 million is a lot of money her Labour loving (literally) self omits to point out on who’s watch the £4+ billion rise mostly took place.

       13 likes

    • johnnythefish says:

      Or how Blair traded a big chunk of our rebate for CAP reform.

      Guess what: CAP reform – still waiting.

         5 likes

  36. Alex says:

    My girlfriend and I have been in our new flat FOR TWO WEEKS and we have just received a disgusting threating letter from the BBC today saying that ‘enforcement officers are coming round to check our flat’. I AM SICK TO DEATH OF BEING FORCED TO PAY FOR THE BBC’S BIASED AND LEFT-WING CRAP. When you receive that disgraceful letter you realize just how tyrannical and communist the BBC is. Disgusted!

       20 likes

    • johnnythefish says:

      ‘Enforcement’ officers, eh? Thought they went out with the Stasi?

         6 likes

    • Teddy Bear says:

      Unless you have some obvious sign, like a satellite dish, visible from outside, my suggestion is DON’T PAY IT.
      Their ‘enforcement officers’ really have no rights more than a door to door salesman, to enter your home, or to expect any answers from you. If they knock, simply close the door in their faces with a few choice words. If they persist in bothering you, you can write to Capita telling them that you do not receive live TV, and to stop sending officers to harass you, which they must do by law – or face the consequences.

         4 likes

    • Dave666 says:

      http://www.tvlicenceresistance.info/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=47d83e562477aac5bee660d4d3600a05&
      Do not let them in do not enter into conversation if they call. Do not respond to any post. Make sure you tick the not to be sold option on the electrol roll.

         4 likes

  37. Teddy Bear says:

    Listening to The World at One on R4 for a few minutes today, I heard them refer to the selection of a new director general of the BBC – Tony Hall, to replace the one that just left under a (rather silver-lined) cloud – George Entwistle.

    Around 7mins30 into the programme, presenter Martha Kearney then asked 2 different BBC presenters their thoughts about this appointment. No surprise that they each only had glowing compliments to say about him. But by interviewing 2 different people, albeit both their own, the BBC are convinced that they’ve got the balance ‘just about right’.

    This type of ‘balance’ is a regular feature of BBC output, and The Commentator has noted something similar in the way the BBC has covered the EU Summit.

    Shocking BBC bias as EU summit gets underway

       6 likes

  38. It's all too much says:

    The gang war being waged on Britain’s streets

    Anyone notice a herd of elephant trampling around in this BBC article – I thought I caught a glimpse of them but I couldn’t be sure…

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-20451521

    Yep, there is scant sign of an explanation of how this rampant mindless criminality has arisen [ in a welfare swaddled consequence free society ] or why these yowfs fink that their behaviour is reasonable. I blame [ their ] society……

    Seems clear to me that the gangsters will only modify their behaviour if they are likely to suffer some bad consequences as a result of their actions, they say as much. Perhaps they might stop doing the many bad things (such as ritual gang rapes) that they do if they were faced with some real consequences to their actions – how about serving seven years breaking rocks in a Wales for starters?

    Following this random train of thought – I wonder how the BBC would react to a “gang” of 45 year old Daily Mail readers forming a group to ‘defend their turf’ and enforce ‘respect’ of old ladies, children etc. May be alright if they are Turkish cafe owners, I suppose.

       5 likes

    • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

      ” breaking rocks in a Wales for starters?”
      Hey there, find some sites in their inner city areas where you live matey!
      we certainly dont want the scum in Wales, breaking rocks or otherwise. ( we have enough problems of our own mate, hang on my Mrs is calling me…Baaahhhh……..)

         4 likes

    • johnnythefish says:

      “If I asked the gang for something I would get it. Not like my mum.”

      In there somewhere are a couple of clues for the world’s greatest investigative journalists.

         4 likes

      • It's all too much says:

        The might have picked up on this bit of stomach churning guff too.

        The Centre for Social Justice (CSJ), the think-tank which informed the government’s gang policy, said that policy is still not enough.

        CSJ’s Christian Guy said: “It’s only got us so far.”

        Gangs are about “belonging, about the fact they can earn [YES THEY DID SAY EARN] thousands of pounds which they’d never earn down the local supermarkets, it’s about the mentality that says this is the best I can hope for in life.

        “I don’t know how many children we have to bury before we start to genuinely get to the root causes of this crisis.”

        I guess they will never get to the root cause, despite their hand wringing hypocrisy, when they wont confront the fact that it is easier to be a criminal wretch than behave nicely.

        BTW sorry about the slur on Wales – i think the open space and light there would have a salutatory effect on the criminal mind. Subliminally I was making reference to New South Wales – Botany Bay had a real deterrent effect on all those poor sods who were ‘only nicking a loaf of bread.’

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  39. George R says:

    “New BBC boss Lord Hall to earn £532,000 by drawing pension on top of salary.
    “”New BBC director-general has already been drawing his BBC pension for a year.”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/9697348/New-BBC-boss-Lord-Hall-to-earn-532000-by-drawing-pension-on-top-of-salary.html

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  40. Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

    well, Kirsty squawk is fronting Newsnight now. Have I missed it or has paxo crawled out from the safety of his rock yet?

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  41. Mavis Ramsbottom says:

    is Tony Hall a Labour supporter?

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    • George R says:

      Not officially, but…

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    • George R says:

      -From ‘returned emus’ comment at B-BBC ‘Before You Go’ thread, today, 11:13 pm:-

      “He is a cross-bench member of the Lords. I checked his voting record under they work for you. In the last 15 votes in the Lords he sided with Labour every single time. Every single time. In his only single speech as a lord, about BBC governance, he spoke against ofcom governance arguing to leave it to the BBC trust and for trusting programme makers to do the right thing. He is a defender of the status quo. I despair, yet another defender of the entrenched bias. Why do I have to pay for this ? I reject it, it is so wrong.”

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  42. George R says:

    “BBC splashes out £4m in executive pay-offs.
    “The BBC was yesterday accused of ‘hosing down’ senior managers with money after admitting it has given ten executives more than £4m in pay-offs in the past two years.”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/9697297/BBC-splashes-out-4m-in-executive-pay-offs.html

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    • wallygreeninker says:

      “His [6 month] suspension only applies to The One Show and not other BBC programmes.
      He is currently in Edinburgh working on other projects for the corporation.”

      A rather odd policy, but then the Beeb seems to have a tradition of cutting these people a bit of slack.
      They’re broadcasting the first of a six part radio series called Sunday Lunch (R4 Sunday 13.30) where he lunches with different people, starting, this week, with a couple who have ‘dedicated their lives to caring for children.’
      In June 2008 he was issued with a warning because some flats he was renting out in Glasgow were grubby and substandard: members of his family were also warned by the city council for various properties they were letting .

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      • Span Ows says:

        Very odd indeed! Like banning someone from the pub for bad behaviour but only stopping them from using the front door and allowing him to use any other entrance.

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  43. George R says:

    ‘The Independent’:-

    “As the new Director General of the BBC, Tony Hall should champion Royal Opera House elitism.”

    By Mary Dejevsky.

    This article seems to be typical of the political left’s tone of voice on the appointment of Tony Hall as BBC D.G.
    The very real issue of BBC political bias is, of course, ignored;
    but the left’s particular brand of publicly-funded broadcasting ‘elitism’ is embraced.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/as-the-new-director-general-of-the-bbc-tony-hall-should-champion-royal-opera-house-elitism-8344223.html

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  44. Mavis Ramsbottom says:

    who do you know goes to the Royal Opera House on a regular basis?

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    • George R says:

      -A few well-off Labour Party supporters.

      Obviously, Tony Hall is only the chief administrator there, and has no musical qualifications.

      But the social ‘elitism’ which is often associated with opera-going in Britain seems to have a seamless link with some of the political ‘elitism’ of the BBC.

      This is not the fault of opera as an art form.

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  45. Sir Arthur Strebe-Grebling says:

    Tonight’s Question Time audience has obviously been selected using the bBBC’s usual criteria. Four reasonable panellists, making mostly sensible and measured points, are received in silence while Owen Shouty-Chav, rabble-rousing with class warfare and anti-American drivel, gets rapturous applause.

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    • Mice Height says:

      Do you reckon that was his ‘plus one’ that was screaming hysterically from the back row for the last five minutes of the programme?
      What is it about the left and their inability to control their self-righteous anger?

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    • Span Ows says:

      Yes, this has never ceased to amaze me; it has happened every since I can remember (although I have only watched one full programme since the 9/11 disgrace. I have often wondered if an experiment having a Conservative saying “we will immediately give everyone in the country 10 thousand pounds” followed by a Labourite saying “we will slaughter all 1st born” would have the same effect; I think it would, silence for the former followed by applause for the latter.

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  46. George R says:

    OPERA: SKY ARTS.

    If BBC-Labour Party’s ‘elitists’ are thinking it will be wonderful to have ex-Royal Opera House’s Tony Hall put on more lavish opera productions on television, there’s always the non-publicly funded Sky Arts alternative:

    http://skyarts.sky.com/music/opera

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  47. Betty Swollocks says:

    That Owen Jones is as punch worthy as Ed Testicles.

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  48. George R says:

    More Harrabin high-cost greenie propaganda against gas-powered energy.

    Bad news for Harrabin:-

    “Energy bill delays setting carbon target until 2016”

    Misleadingly he uses phrases like ‘clean energy’ to mis-describe wind power, ignoring the cost of manufacturing it all, and the cost of necessary gas-powered back-up.

    Harrabin (and Reubin) generously quote their like-minded ‘greenies’ as the default political position to be approved, while going very lightly over the enormous extravagance of such non-solutions to keeping the lights on.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20451189

    ‘Telegraph’:

    “Wind farms to increase energy bills by £178 a year”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/energy/9697609/Wind-farms-to-increase-energy-bills-by-178-a-year.html

    “Ten years too late, it’s good riddance to wind farms – one of the most dangerous delusions of our age”
    By CHRISTOPHER BOOKER.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2225544/Good-riddance-wind-farms–dangerous-delusions-age.html

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    • George R says:

      Harrabin seems to use his position at the BBC to propagandise for the closure of Britain’s coal, gas and nuclear power stations, and to prevent the development of shale gas; instead he promotes high-cost, unreliable, environmentally negative wind-farms.

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    • George R says:

      “FIRST ENERGY BILL CASUALITY:
      STEEL GIANT TATA TO CUT 900 UK JOBS”

      http://www.thegwpf.org/green-casuality-steel-giant-tata-cut-900-uk-jobs/#

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      • uncle bup says:

        To be offset against the millions of broken window jobs to be created.

        Sorry did I say ‘broken window jobs’. I meant of course ‘green jobs’.

        My bad. 🙁

        Ps – ask the average commuter which he would prefer – another windmill or another carriage for his train.

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