“Margaret Thatcher: viewers criticise BBC over presenters not wearing black ties.
“Viewers have criticised the BBC after news presenters fronting special programmes on Margaret Thatcher’s death did not wear black ties.”
A bit like poppies, the compulsion to, or desire not to wear a piece of clothing or symbolic dress at the behest of or to please others has an oddly familiar smack of selectivity around when considered reasonable respect or an outrage to the sensibilities.
Personally, I’d prefer it to be their choice. Then they can be judged accordingly by their actions. The comparison between attire sported for various folks’ death notices will then be interesting, like football shirts.
Of course, I’d then like the choice of not supporting any entity whose staff opt to make such statements.
Or is one to presume that some want to be able to make personal statements but still get paid, uniquely, by public compulsion?
“Left’s chorus of hatred: Champagne in the streets, students union cheers and vile internet taunts.
“Glasgow: More than 300 people attended impromptu street party.
“London: Over 100 people gathered in Brixton to ‘celebrate’
Facebook campaign to take ‘Ding Dong! The Witch is Dead’ to number one.
“Durham Miners’ Association: Her death was a ‘great day’ for coal miners.
“Second most trending topic on Twitter: #nostatefuneral.
“NUS National conference reported to have cheered at news of her death.”
One positive outcome might be a final tide of public opinion turning against the savages of the Rent-a-mob Left, who have for too long been immune to the kicking they deserve. Let’s start by haranguing sellers of “Socialist Wanker” !
He has the audacity to front a political party that calls itself ‘Respect’. Not that I expected anything better from this piece of shit…I won’t bother embedding it…
Nice bit of bias in tonight’s newsnight MrsT featurette: The voice-over was phrased in such a way as to imply that the sinking of HMS Sheffield was Mrs T’s fault because she ordered the Belgrano sunk. This overlooked the fact we were at war and losses on both sides were enevitable, and that the sinking of the Belgrano undoubtedly saved British lives by removing the threat posed by the Argentine fleet.
I have just watched the BBC1 90-minute programme on Margaret Thatcher on iPlayer. I must say I found it to be a fair and rounded portrait. And even Kinnock was putting primary blame foir the disaster of the miners; strike on Scargill, not Thatcher.
One point that came through was that her early economic policies – which the Left claim were cruel – were rooted in the need to tackle rampant inflation. I can recall meetings of Cabinet Committees in the mid-1970s where it was routine for wage increases of 25% or more to be nodded through, usually with little discussion. The gas workers, the electricity workers, steel workers, local government staff, health service workers, teachers, etc etc etc. The State ran a huge proportion of the UK economy, and Callaghan’s Government was presiding over abject concessions to all the public sector unions.
Any policies to stop this destructive inflation had to be harsh. And they had to be applied rigorously, with no backing down. We sometimes forget that the criticisms of Thatcher’s early economic policies often do not recognise the ills she was having to deal with.
The BBC’s biography showed of course how hard Thatcher fought over Europe. But it did not point out her prescience – decades ago – in stating that moves towards a unified currency would directly challenge democracy – she said very clearly that at some point the strains between Germany and the poorer nations of Europe would become impossible to manage.
But overall – thank you BBC for a fair appraisal of the Thatcher years. The producer, editor and researchers deserve full credit for the programme – why can’t the BBC hit this standard of objectivity all the time ?
Hmm. I am not so sure. They still used wonderful word smithing to cast doubt on her achievements. But most noticeable was the continuous loop showing policemen charging at miners. No reference to kerbstones being dropped on lorry drivers. They use every communications trick in the book & we are so used to it we don’t notice what they are doing.
For anyone who is too young to remember and wants a window onto the world of the unions’ stranglehold of the UK as a whole, and what Mrs. Thatcher and her government faced, have a watch of this for a sample…
We have closed comments on every #Thatcher story today – even our address to email tributes is filled with abuse— Tony Gallagher (@gallaghereditor) April 8, 2013
@stancollymore Irony is that Thatcher would’ve tried to close down Twitter on the basis that it gives freedom of speech to disenfranchised.— Ian McGarry (@garbosj) April 8, 2013
As a child of Thatcher’s Britain I owe first awareness of politics to her. And a lifelong distrust/dislike of the Conservative Party.— Ian McGarry (@garbosj) April 8, 2013
Nicky Campbell kicks off after 8.00am this morning with a quote from the front page of the Daily Mirror.
‘She Divided a Nation’.
You see, that’s how the BBC pretends it is an unbiased independent national broadcaster – it hides behind the headline of a Left-leaning red top to smuggle out its own message.
They are ‘at it’ this morning. Jenni something or other their reporter is in the Barnsley mining area, (as was) a centre of the vicious strikes. She adopted a soft sickening sympathetic tone when asking people what they thought and how much they had all suffered. “What did you think when she died?” “I just thought thank goodness for that.” The BBC are loving it. They’ve also just said that the ‘undertakers van’ has just left the Ritz. They are pouring the insults on thick to day.
They are now interviewing Ken Clarke MP on ‘Breakfast’, he’s criticising the Leftist arguments, they don’t like it and they are interrupting.
I despise the BBC.
BBC reporting on the offensive twitter posts by Paris Brown made a few years ago. Not a word about all the offensive tweets flying around yesterday and today from all the lefties including those who earn a shilling off the BBC in some way.
She was concerned about it but, being a scientist herself, insisted the scientists involved had to prove their conclusions were a result of using the scientific method.
Folks, if you can stomach these pictures in today’s Daily Mail of the utter left-wing scum celebrating death, then I urge you to do so as it shows what this country is becoming. These photos are all the evidence one needs to realize what a spoilt bunch of brats many of these socialists are…. what has this country come to? Many of these little ‘right-on’ brats (sociology, drama and arts and crafts students) weren’t even alive when Margaret Thatcher was in power and therefore have no understanding of the context. They seem to be very quiet about what came before Margaret Thatcher’s premiership, however; simply unbelievable. I blame the parents who ‘brought’ these spoilt brats up; you know the types – middle class lefties who listen to punk music, who where wooly jumpers and read books about political struggles of the left etc.
An early poll from the polling report site (is there anything which is safe from the Pollsters?)
I expect there will be a lot of polling on Thatcher in the days to come, but ICM are first out of the stalls with a snap poll conducted this afternoon for the Guardian.
As with other polling prior to her death, it shows a mainly positive rating… but a divisive one. More people rate Thatcher positively than negatively, but very few sit on the fence. Overall 50% say her record as Prime Minister was good, 34% bad, just 11% say “neither good nor bad”.
What happened to the other 5% ?
This figures illustrate that she was a polarising figure but that the majority of people think she was a good prime minister.
The little fibber never left the house,check out the times of his last posting
And probably only stopped then because mum made him get off the computer.
Atlee’s Britain survives? Huh???? Everything’s not rationed as it was in Atlee’s Britain – the last of that stopped in about 1960. The disastrous nationalisations of Atlee’s Britain were largely set right by Mrs Thatcher, but it had contributed greatly to the mess the country was in by 1979.
The only bit of “Atlee’s Britain” that survives is the NHS. Less said about that at the moment the better.
The Thatcherite Free Market is still there waiting once we are out of this Blair/Brown caused recession. Her legacy will live on, thankfully Atlee’s didn’t.
OT, but a less than stellar aspect to Baroness T’s memory struck me as I surfed the Daily Telegraph’s blog roll just now.
Every single post, bar one*, was either closed to comments or had indications they had been allowed but then pulled.
That seems retrograde.
*http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/andrewgilligan/100211282/hacked-off-i-am-going-to-have-such-fun-with-these-people/
This resonated though: ‘Hacked Off’s celebrity supporters reacted in characteristically calm and measured fashion. “Wow, Andrew Gilligan still knows how to write lies,” hissed Stephen Fry. No actual lies were cited, you understand, but for the kind of people who support Hacked Off, any fact with which they disagree is self-evidently false, and soon to be eliminated by their new “voluntary independent self-regulator.”
Post Savile/McAlpine, some seem still secure in what they want to be serving in stead of what others may be keen on them actually substantiating.
I guess Mr. Fry being worth £30M means he’s doing something right for this delusional new era, though.
I wonder how much the compelled BBC fee-payers chipped in to this pot?
“Marvel at Margaret Thatcher – the outsider who beat the system.
“Unlike most politicians today, she had courage, integrity and a clear sense of who she was.”
By Peter Oborne
{Excerpt]:-
“Respectable opinion hated her. The BBC felt a patronising contempt for her simple certainties, and her lucid understanding of the difference between right and wrong. University high tables turned up their noses.
So did the bulk of the Conservative Party. ”
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An anti-Thatcher diatribe by ex-BBC Martin Bashir – what a bloody creep :
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/344931/msnbc-host-thatcher-embodied-selfishness-eliana-johnson
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Bashir is scum.
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He has his own show on MSNBC now, which is telling.
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Mitch Benn and the tenured entitlement of the BBC comedy establishment:
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He’s the talentless twat who sings ‘I’m proud of the BBC’, so pretty much par for the course.
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“Margaret Thatcher: viewers criticise BBC over presenters not wearing black ties.
“Viewers have criticised the BBC after news presenters fronting special programmes on Margaret Thatcher’s death did not wear black ties.”
By Melanie Hall.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/margaret-thatcher/9980125/Margaret-Thatcher-viewers-criticise-BBC-over-presenters-not-wearing-black-ties.html
Are Beeboids reserving them for death of Mandela?
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A bit like poppies, the compulsion to, or desire not to wear a piece of clothing or symbolic dress at the behest of or to please others has an oddly familiar smack of selectivity around when considered reasonable respect or an outrage to the sensibilities.
Personally, I’d prefer it to be their choice. Then they can be judged accordingly by their actions. The comparison between attire sported for various folks’ death notices will then be interesting, like football shirts.
Of course, I’d then like the choice of not supporting any entity whose staff opt to make such statements.
Or is one to presume that some want to be able to make personal statements but still get paid, uniquely, by public compulsion?
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“Left’s chorus of hatred: Champagne in the streets, students union cheers and vile internet taunts.
“Glasgow: More than 300 people attended impromptu street party.
“London: Over 100 people gathered in Brixton to ‘celebrate’
Facebook campaign to take ‘Ding Dong! The Witch is Dead’ to number one.
“Durham Miners’ Association: Her death was a ‘great day’ for coal miners.
“Second most trending topic on Twitter: #nostatefuneral.
“NUS National conference reported to have cheered at news of her death.”
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2305760/Lefts-chorus-hatred-Champagne-streets-students-union-cheers-vile-internet-taunts.html#ixzz2PuzXBVEP
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One positive outcome might be a final tide of public opinion turning against the savages of the Rent-a-mob Left, who have for too long been immune to the kicking they deserve. Let’s start by haranguing sellers of “Socialist Wanker” !
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Quite a nice anecdote…
http://the-legion-of-decency.blogspot.ca/2013/04/my-moment-with-margaret.html
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He has the audacity to front a political party that calls itself ‘Respect’. Not that I expected anything better from this piece of shit…I won’t bother embedding it…
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…at least he’s getting a proper kicking.
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Nice bit of bias in tonight’s newsnight MrsT featurette: The voice-over was phrased in such a way as to imply that the sinking of HMS Sheffield was Mrs T’s fault because she ordered the Belgrano sunk. This overlooked the fact we were at war and losses on both sides were enevitable, and that the sinking of the Belgrano undoubtedly saved British lives by removing the threat posed by the Argentine fleet.
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…but Lord Carrington then said in the programme that deaths are inevitable in any war ?
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I have just watched the BBC1 90-minute programme on Margaret Thatcher on iPlayer. I must say I found it to be a fair and rounded portrait. And even Kinnock was putting primary blame foir the disaster of the miners; strike on Scargill, not Thatcher.
One point that came through was that her early economic policies – which the Left claim were cruel – were rooted in the need to tackle rampant inflation. I can recall meetings of Cabinet Committees in the mid-1970s where it was routine for wage increases of 25% or more to be nodded through, usually with little discussion. The gas workers, the electricity workers, steel workers, local government staff, health service workers, teachers, etc etc etc. The State ran a huge proportion of the UK economy, and Callaghan’s Government was presiding over abject concessions to all the public sector unions.
Any policies to stop this destructive inflation had to be harsh. And they had to be applied rigorously, with no backing down. We sometimes forget that the criticisms of Thatcher’s early economic policies often do not recognise the ills she was having to deal with.
The BBC’s biography showed of course how hard Thatcher fought over Europe. But it did not point out her prescience – decades ago – in stating that moves towards a unified currency would directly challenge democracy – she said very clearly that at some point the strains between Germany and the poorer nations of Europe would become impossible to manage.
But overall – thank you BBC for a fair appraisal of the Thatcher years. The producer, editor and researchers deserve full credit for the programme – why can’t the BBC hit this standard of objectivity all the time ?
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Credit to the BBC – I thought the coverage on Radio 4 from 17:00 to 18:30 on Monday was reasonable and fair, but they were “holding the dogs back”.
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Hmm. I am not so sure. They still used wonderful word smithing to cast doubt on her achievements. But most noticeable was the continuous loop showing policemen charging at miners. No reference to kerbstones being dropped on lorry drivers. They use every communications trick in the book & we are so used to it we don’t notice what they are doing.
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For anyone who is too young to remember and wants a window onto the world of the unions’ stranglehold of the UK as a whole, and what Mrs. Thatcher and her government faced, have a watch of this for a sample…
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Good clip. In the ITV case the union stranglehold was broken. Murdoch (and Andrew Neil) made sure it never even started at Sky.
But not at the BBC – where there is still endemic overmanning.
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Unfortunately, this just re-affirms what most of them think.
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Margaret Thatcher – why feminists loathe her…
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I know he’s not always popular, but this is well written…
http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2013/04/08/thatcher-liberator/
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Ian McGarry @garbosj
Member of BBC Radio 5Live Monday Night Club
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Another…
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More for the list. The gift that keeps on giving.
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Nicky Campbell kicks off after 8.00am this morning with a quote from the front page of the Daily Mirror.
‘She Divided a Nation’.
You see, that’s how the BBC pretends it is an unbiased independent national broadcaster – it hides behind the headline of a Left-leaning red top to smuggle out its own message.
BBC : Cowards. Liars. Left-wing.
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Pitch up a gentle one son – and I’ll hit it for 6
Nicky Campbell interviews a former advisor to Gordon Brown who cut his political teeth in the 1980s with Labour supporting Red Wedge.
As if the idea had just come to him Gameshow asks – are there any of the seeds of our current economic problems in Thatcher’s policies?
Red Wedgie must have thanked his lucky Labour stars for that full toss
‘
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One of Gameshow’s take a free kicks questions. That sort of question is a speciality of his. Especially in the run up to the last election.
Rasher Bacon is another exponent e.g; ‘Alastair Campbell…Alastair welcome…welcome…tell me, Alastair…what do you think of the Tories?’
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Distasteful. Boycott.
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Nicky Campbell now tries to call Margaret Thatcher racist.
She called Mandela a terrorist!
Luckily BBC old timer John Sergeant is on hand to put him right.
She called the ANC a terrorist organisation – and she let them have an office in London.
Nice try Dame Nicky. Tell the kids your stories when the BBC grown ups have gone away and left you on your own.
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They are ‘at it’ this morning. Jenni something or other their reporter is in the Barnsley mining area, (as was) a centre of the vicious strikes. She adopted a soft sickening sympathetic tone when asking people what they thought and how much they had all suffered. “What did you think when she died?” “I just thought thank goodness for that.” The BBC are loving it. They’ve also just said that the ‘undertakers van’ has just left the Ritz. They are pouring the insults on thick to day.
They are now interviewing Ken Clarke MP on ‘Breakfast’, he’s criticising the Leftist arguments, they don’t like it and they are interrupting.
I despise the BBC.
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BBC reporting on the offensive twitter posts by Paris Brown made a few years ago. Not a word about all the offensive tweets flying around yesterday and today from all the lefties including those who earn a shilling off the BBC in some way.
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SHE WAS COMBATTING CLIMATE CHANGE LONG BEFORE AL GORE HAD EVEN INVENTED IT!! . . . . FACT!!1!
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She was concerned about it but, being a scientist herself, insisted the scientists involved had to prove their conclusions were a result of using the scientific method.
We all know what happened after that.
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Folks, if you can stomach these pictures in today’s Daily Mail of the utter left-wing scum celebrating death, then I urge you to do so as it shows what this country is becoming. These photos are all the evidence one needs to realize what a spoilt bunch of brats many of these socialists are…. what has this country come to? Many of these little ‘right-on’ brats (sociology, drama and arts and crafts students) weren’t even alive when Margaret Thatcher was in power and therefore have no understanding of the context. They seem to be very quiet about what came before Margaret Thatcher’s premiership, however; simply unbelievable. I blame the parents who ‘brought’ these spoilt brats up; you know the types – middle class lefties who listen to punk music, who where wooly jumpers and read books about political struggles of the left etc.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2306165/Margaret-Thatcher-death-parties-The-Lefts-sick-celebration-Brixtons-streets.html
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The SWP seem to have hijacked the comments section of this article, given that the most green-arrowed comments are from the hard Left.
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An early poll from the polling report site (is there anything which is safe from the Pollsters?)
I expect there will be a lot of polling on Thatcher in the days to come, but ICM are first out of the stalls with a snap poll conducted this afternoon for the Guardian.
As with other polling prior to her death, it shows a mainly positive rating… but a divisive one. More people rate Thatcher positively than negatively, but very few sit on the fence. Overall 50% say her record as Prime Minister was good, 34% bad, just 11% say “neither good nor bad”.
What happened to the other 5% ?
This figures illustrate that she was a polarising figure but that the majority of people think she was a good prime minister.
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On the news this morning – celebrations in Brixton involved vandalism and looting.
Beyond parody.
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The big question on very many lips is ‘will we get a day off?’
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i’m hung over from the party last night celebrating Thatchers’ death.
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Let me fix that for you
‘I should be hung for the party last night celebrating Thatchers’ death. ‘
there you go you little Dheela Lund Ni Olaad !
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The little fibber never left the house,check out the times of his last posting
And probably only stopped then because mum made him get off the computer.
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Mum ? Psychiatric nurse, more like !
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I only stopped posting because I couldn’t stop laughing at the Socialist Workers front page.
Check it out you will not like it.
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Socialist Worker ,well I never,what about ‘keep left’ is that still going as well? I seem to remember we couldnt give those away. literally.
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Since when did any Socialist Worker readers do any work, apart from carrying out vandalism and stopping tax-paying workers from working ?
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Atlee’s Britain survives? Huh???? Everything’s not rationed as it was in Atlee’s Britain – the last of that stopped in about 1960. The disastrous nationalisations of Atlee’s Britain were largely set right by Mrs Thatcher, but it had contributed greatly to the mess the country was in by 1979.
The only bit of “Atlee’s Britain” that survives is the NHS. Less said about that at the moment the better.
The Thatcherite Free Market is still there waiting once we are out of this Blair/Brown caused recession. Her legacy will live on, thankfully Atlee’s didn’t.
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OT, but a less than stellar aspect to Baroness T’s memory struck me as I surfed the Daily Telegraph’s blog roll just now.
Every single post, bar one*, was either closed to comments or had indications they had been allowed but then pulled.
That seems retrograde.
*http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/andrewgilligan/100211282/hacked-off-i-am-going-to-have-such-fun-with-these-people/
This resonated though:
‘Hacked Off’s celebrity supporters reacted in characteristically calm and measured fashion. “Wow, Andrew Gilligan still knows how to write lies,” hissed Stephen Fry. No actual lies were cited, you understand, but for the kind of people who support Hacked Off, any fact with which they disagree is self-evidently false, and soon to be eliminated by their new “voluntary independent self-regulator.”
Post Savile/McAlpine, some seem still secure in what they want to be serving in stead of what others may be keen on them actually substantiating.
I guess Mr. Fry being worth £30M means he’s doing something right for this delusional new era, though.
I wonder how much the compelled BBC fee-payers chipped in to this pot?
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Nick Robinson this morning said that today we would hear the voices of those opposed to Margaret Thatcher.
I think he had sneaked a peek at the upcoming BBC schedules.
At least no sensible observer can now claim the BBC ain’t tilted to the Left
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“Marvel at Margaret Thatcher – the outsider who beat the system.
“Unlike most politicians today, she had courage, integrity and a clear sense of who she was.”
By Peter Oborne
{Excerpt]:-
“Respectable opinion hated her. The BBC felt a patronising contempt for her simple certainties, and her lucid understanding of the difference between right and wrong. University high tables turned up their noses.
So did the bulk of the Conservative Party. ”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/margaret-thatcher/9979663/Marvel-at-Margaret-Thatcher-the-outsider-who-beat-the-system.html
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I see the BBC has closed Lady Thatcher death reaction comments at 666… someone’s little joke?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22177366
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