221 Responses to MID WEEK OPEN THREAD!

  1. Joshaw says:

    Unless there’s some massive unexpected upheaval, they’re not going to vote for independence anyway. It’s all academic.


  2. BigT says:

    on the BBC Radio…

    “IPSA is a disgraceful Tory creation to give more money to MP’s’

    No questions asked by BBC Voice….

    Errm… when was it created ..2009… who was in power…. oh I forgot 1997 -2010 never happened in the BBC’s eyes…

    Move along… same old guf


    • #88 says:

      They did though manage to get a compliant Tory MP, Charles Walker, on, who obliged by pointing the finger at Cameron.

      Cleary though, for him, MPs’ salaries were less important than grinding his axe. He is obviously not a fan of Cameron.

      On the subject of salaries, however, I notice that Derbyshire, in her shows, repeatedly takes an easy shot – poor nurses and teachers don’t earn as much as bankers, hedge fund managers or the heads of our wealth creating corporations…and heaven forbid our legislators earn more than the national average wage.

      Tell me Vicky, how much were you paid by the BBC last year?


      • pah says:

        He is obviously not a fan of Cameron.
        This is what happened in the run up to 1997; only Tories who opposed the government were interviewed outside of the main ministers. No dissenting Labour voices were heard.

        It is part and parcel of their campaign to alienate the public and, given Labour’s incompetence last time the party’s current lead can only be explained by people being hoodwinked.


  3. Sir Arthur Strebe-Grebling says:

    More unquestioning airtime given by the bBBC to their loony leftie friends at the Resolution Foundation. Their latest report shows that millions of indebted people will have to pay more if interest rates rise: isn’t it amazing what a degree in economics teaches you?!

    But nowhere is there any mention of why these people have chosen to borrow more than they can afford, or any explanation of why it is apparently my problem that they have decided to speculate on overpriced houses.


  4. Fred Bloggs says:

    A common theme of overpaying out taxpayers money under Labour is in the wind. bBC payments and the Serco G4S for the MOJ. I am expecting an in depth programme detailing how Labour wasted billions through their financial misconduct. I will bet my house that no such programme in the public interest will ever see the light of day.


  5. DB says:

    A few tweets from North America BBC News producer Bill McKenna. Conservative-hating received-opinion spewing left-liberal, just like the rest of the BBC’s US crowd. Hashtag groupthink.


    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Jesus Christ. It’s like a parody. I’ll add all of these to the “In Their Own Tweets” page, which is gradually growing to be so large that it’s impossible to deny the BBC has a problem with groupthink and intellectual diversity.


      • DB says:

        ‘I’ll add all of these to the “In Their Own Tweets” page’ – that was quick!


    • Banquosghost says:

      Does this idiot really work for and represent the BBC in America? Would love to see someone try and deny beeb bias after reading that lot!!!


      • David Preiser (USA) says:

        Every single BBC employee working in the US feels this way. Just look at the entries on the “In Their Own Tweets” page (via the tab at the top) for Matt Danzico, Daniel Nasaw (in charge of the US & Canada page), Katty Kay, John Mervin, and Paul Adams, for starters.


  6. George R says:

    BBC-Democrats reluctant to report Hasan-FORT HOOD jihad mass murder trial.


    “Fort Hood jihad mass murderer expresses support for Sharia and Taliban, calls Arkansas jihad murderer ‘my brother and my friend'”



    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      This is another bizarre trial. As the saying goes, he who represents himself in court has a fool for a client, but this is getting silly.


  7. George R says:

    Two contrasting reports on Boston jihad mass murder trial:


    “Boston Marathon jihad murderer ‘came out and he smirked at the families’ of his victims”



    “Boston bomb accused Dzhokhar Tsarnaev denies charges”



  8. George R says:

    Egypt: Muslims murder Christian.

    Is INBBC interested in reporting it?




  9. Llareggub says:

    I am sure that the BBC will broadcast this homage to the religion of Peace by our God fearing PM. Sick bags are required.


    • Sir Arthur Strebe-Grebling says:


I am very proud to be Prime Minister of a nation in which people can freely practise their beliefs.
      … provided that you don’t say anything that might offend a Muslim.


  10. chrisH says:

    Oh dear-that nasty Michael Gove has been putting bats up the nighties of the BBC, Guardian, Labour and the unions…collectively known as “The Blob”.
    Apparently, our little darlings in school care will now be getting educated,, getting knowledge and facts…for Stalins sake, this is exactly what State Schooling is NOT to be attempting.
    Out rolls one “Prof Terry Wrigley”…from the world-renowned Leeds Poly, no less…to warn us of the consequences-that these kids might take immigrants jobs, might know what the BBC are up to, and ensure the unions are run out of any establishment what dares to fly under an “educational remit”.
    Prof?…Terry?…well hardly Millar or Toynbee is it?…but all on the same page.
    Kids in private schools, but leaving a suggestion box for the used condoms as proferred by those charming yoof at Bash St Comp!


  11. Guest Who says:

    ‘Answers about “custom and practice”, “prevailing culture”, “a certain way of doing things” should not have got through a rehearsal; nor should continual references to costs avoided.’
    But they did, and were noticed. Plus logged, beyond the reach of that wee man now working away in ‘archives’, with his eraser & magnet.
    ‘Tony said he and Lucy were doing great work together, scrutinising salaries “down to £75k”; though I did hear the words “over the medium term”.
    Given that ever so modest market rate swings in below the annual wedge for a regional peroxide sink teleprompter reader-outer few had ever heard of, seems Tone & Luce will be pretty much taking on all BBC staff bar the bin emptiers. And any still ‘off the books’. Call it 10,000. 5k each. I might be wrong, and if so to get the claimed numbers…. 3…2….1…cue….

    Even so, seems they are going for a Thompsonian ‘so much passes my desk I can’t be expected to notice anything’ Pollard-tested, pre-inquiry excuse already in place for down the line.
    Not bad at just £838,000… in 2010.
    Or, 5700 TV licences.
    ‘And that should take us to a fabulous session in November, when Mark Thompson has been invited, this time with reasonable notice, to explain how he ran the BBC.’


  12. Guest Who says:

    Glorious evening.
    Pub beckons.
    Especially as the evening shift seems to have clocked on and are hitting ‘post’ as often as they can cycle their wavelengths or whatever the Borg do.
    This one is of course totally nothing to do with BBC bias either.
    So feel free to delete it.
    For’ ‘balance’.
    The BBC will understand.


  13. Banquosghost says:

    The BBC sucks, we know it, that’s why we are here. However tiny amount of credit where its due, TMS has been super all day. I suppose some on message Commissar will eventually try and ruin it one day but for now, a tiny, tiny corner of the BBC is still good.

    Not worth the poxy fee for that alone of course though.


    • AsISeeIt says:

      You are quite correct. TMS is an island within a sea of drivel. I couldn’t help but notice the vast contrast between cricket coverage and the utter radio dros that spewed forth from the BBC during the tennis!


  14. CCE says:

    “Gove primary curriculum ‘abolishes childhood'” (What a bastard!)

    Has anybody a link to anything positive broadcast/written about him or his work by the BBC?


    “Children in England will be required to cover subjects up to two years earlier than their peers in top-performing nations, a study suggests.”

    [Cripes, a STUDY eh, it must be true then…..]

    “Prof Terry Wrigley of Leeds Metropolitan University compared the government’s new national curriculum plans to be introduced in primary schools from 2014 with the requirements for study in top European performer, Finland, and high-ranking Singapore.”

    A real live professor did it. Hmm I wonder if he has an interest here that the BBC hasn’t bothered to tell me about.


    I quote from the Mail report

    “The blistering attack appeared in a letter published in the Daily Telegraph and the Independent yesterday.

    [http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/letters/9940846/The-dangers-of-the-new-National-Curriculum-proposals.html ]

    But it quickly became clear the 100 academics – all of whom are professors of education or lecture in the subject at universities – were predominantly Left-wing ideologists with links to trade unions, socialists and the Labour Party.

    The organiser of the letter, Terry Wrigley, a visiting professor at Leeds Metropolitan University, is a regular contributor to publications Socialist Worker and Socialist Review.”

    So the BBC is simply re-cycling a story based on allegations made in March and using its own interpretation of ‘completely impartial and unbiased source material’. As usual.

    Rule of thumb: All ‘reports’, ‘studies’, ‘surveys’, and ‘research’ that make it onto the BBC are either ideologically driven political activism or the special pleading of special interest advocacy groups. The BBC is good enough to tell us this on the extremely rare occaisions when the report happens to be slightly right of Leon Trotsky of course. However – as conclusively proven in this case – the left or ‘approved’ reports get a free ride and free publicity


  15. chrisH says:

    Are we all to be racist now then Father?
    Heard Mark Steel last night late on the BBC “Comedy spot” after 11p.m
    To be fair, the BBC never risk sending the likes of Steel and Thomas out before the watershed, and probably assume that no-one will listen, let alone laugh.
    Gave this hopelessly unfunny bloke five minutes, by which time he had mocked the Scots(obviously not the Leith heads in whose parish he was spouting),,,but categorised the Glaswegians as religious bigots and ignorant brawlers…just as Jim Davidson or Bernie Winters might have done had they not actually been far funnier than poor Mark.
    Steel then tore into the Poles for having the word Smac in their shop frontage…do you need me to tell you what he imagined the Scots(Glaswegians mainly) would be hoping to buy from THAT shop…unfunny and as telegraphed as a Terry Scott rewrite for a Carry on Polska clip?
    I can`t do justice to the deaths head tumbleweed that brought Observer reading bedwetters into contact with Mark Steel…embarrasingly unfunny, but no doubt he`ll get a sofa now for Edinburgh and his “new show”.
    Still…it`s lefty, it`s stoodent and its unfunny politico shite…racist and lazy..so he`ll be on the BBC for some time to come!


    • pah says:

      To be fair, the BBC never risk sending the likes of Steel and Thomas out before the watershed

      Sadly this is not true. Both have had series on R4 during the 18:30 ‘Comedy Slot.’

      I know because I have often had to turn over to R2 early and endure the inane ‘Drive Time’ before the decent music started …


  16. Alex says:

    The Saville scandal, the terrible Newsnight Lord Macalpine cock-up, the 100 million wasted on the digital archive project and now 25 million of our money wasted on golden goodbyes for BBC fat-cat managers… severances way above the contractual terms. Alongside their inherent Left-wing bias, what more evidence does one need to conclude that this organization needs to be flushed down the toilet at once.


  17. George R says:


    Of course, INBBC’s Cairo Bureau, which is politically sympathetic towards the Muslim Brotherhood, does not make clear that Egypt’s proposed transitional constitution contains Sharia law elements.

    ‘Atlas Shrugs’:-




  18. Daphne Anson says:

    We could have had fun in the comments section. Sorry I missed this till now.


    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      There’s only just now a danger of groupthink since they’re all crammed into the new digs? LOFL.


  19. AsISeeIt says:

    Interesting to hear from the BBC that the corporation may have listened too closely to the politicians. Nice buck passing there, chaps.

    Even a casual listen to my radio this morning tells me that in reality it is the quangos, the bureacrats, the one-issue activists and the politicised charity campaigners who really have Auntie’s ear.

    Given the BBC’s total emersion in PC politics any move to air less Westminster-centric voices will infact be an excuse for a shift further Left.

    This morning they want to look in kid’s lunchboxes, put ciggies in plain packages, have a wimmins Tour de France and protect me from Wonga dot.com – all within the space of three minutes.

    By the way last night at the 12am news on BBC 5 Live they forgot that the expenses cheat Denis Macshane was a former LABOUR MP – just a slip, I’m sure.

    BBC on-line seems to remember…


    Ex-Labour MP Denis MacShane charged over expenses

    ‘Ex-Labour’ is a nice phrase – implying I suppose that once they transgress an EU-loving Lefty is no longer really in the fold. (He is also an ex-Beeboid) Can’t quite recall the phrase ‘ex-Tory’? Once a Tory always a Tory I guess.


  20. George R says:

    “BBC executives contradict each other in pay-off row”

    (2 min video clip).



  21. George R says:


    Which side does BBC-NUJ support in this internecine jihad?

    “Key Free Syria Army rebel ‘killed by Islamist group'”



    • BigT says:

      They are scratching their heads at the moment…. but give it a day or two and it will be Assad’s fault, then the Fault of the West, and if that doesn’t work.. it was Thatcher that done it…


  22. Framer says:

    Take note of the BBC news website approach to the funeral of Lee Rigby. They are playing it down so much it must be a policy decision perhaps to ‘reduce community tension’.
    Yesterday the small headlines were about the impending funeral of “a soldier”.
    Today he merits a name “Lee Rigby military funeral to be held” but the story, if it be that, is relegated to a minor place after a whopper headline about banning packed lunches in schools.
    Beeb news management is increasingly like Pravda so I imagine the TV coverage of the event will be as sparse as decently possible.


  23. Thoughtful says:

    Today Malala Yousafzai will address the United Nations in the tospy turvey world of the lunatic left she has become an icon for standing up against another of their favourites – Islam !

    Picking through the mess of BBC miss information to get to the truth is impossible, made worse so either by blatant BBC lies or the Taliban changing the story when they realised the amount of popular feeling against what they had done.

    Here is the current story as far as I can tell, and something which is now banned from UK media, the Quranic justification for it.

    Please remember that this story may have changed from the original one !

    Malala was not shot because of an opposition to education of girls.
    The Taliban do not have an opposition of education of girls
    There is nothing in the Qur’an to support opposition of the education of girls (unless you really really twist it!).

    The Taliban claim that Malala was deliberately targeted because she spoke against them, and the Qur’an does support the murder of children in such circumstances.
    The Taliban statement reads:
    it is “not just allowed … but obligatory in Islam” to kill such a person involved “in leading a campaign against Shariah and (who) tries to involve whole community in such campaign, and that personality becomes a symbol of anti-Shariah campaign.”

    The Taliban had been destroying schools and killing teachers not as the misinformation tells you because they didn’t want girls to be educated, but because of the ‘Khalwah’ Islam prohibits men and women working side by side and schools are co-educational, this is why they have been attacked.

    Malala wrote a blog under a pseudonym for three years attacking and criticising the Taleban for enforcing the Khalwah, and it was for this she was shot, and no other reason.

    Here is the Islamic justification used by the Taleban for the attempted murder, which you are banned from hearing in the UK:

    a reference from the time of Hazrat Khizar, a revered figure in Islamic history who was described as a righteous servant of God and endowed with the qualities of unmatched wisdom and mystic power.

    “If anyone argues about her young age, then the story of Hazrat Khizar in the Quran (states that) while traveling with Prophet Musa (AS), (he) killed a child. Arguing about the reason of his killing, he said that the parents of this child were pious and in the future he (the child) would cause a bad name for them,” adds the statement.

    In a final statement the Taleban say this:

    “If anyone thinks that Malala was targeted because of education, that is absolutely wrong, and propaganda of media. Malala was targeted because of her pioneer role in preaching secularism and so called enlightened moderation. And whomsoever will commit so in future too will be targeted again by TTP.”

    So yet again we see propaganda in the Western media suggesting that group of mad mullahs are twisting Islam to their own ends, but nothing could be further from the truth.


    • Stewart says:

      good post thanks


    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Dez will call you a racist for suggesting that the attempt on her life was done out of a perceived obligation to their religious texts.