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Evan Davis on today’s (22/07) Today programme a bit before the 08:00 news: “…the circles I mix in – right. But, I’m mixing in a slightly rarefied metropolitan elite…”
Slightly?
I also heard that surprising remark. Surprising, I mean, that it was made, not the sentiment, for these species of deluded BBC apparatchiks think of themselves as an elite. It is, however, the first time I have heard one admit it.
I heard that too and I couldn’t escape the notion that the words he used around it suggested that it wasn’t meant as ironic. I would encourage others to listen to it, because the rest of what he said was very telling indeed. The notion that he thinks himself part of an elite says much about the mindset in which he lives and works. In addition, did you pick up that his comment was part of a question about not knowing who else watched such programmes. He knew that his coterie watched it, so given the elite comment I presume the rest of his question was one of ” do the scummy proles have the wit to enjoy and comprehend these clever pieces of television?”
It speaks to us on so many levels about them.
BBC dutifully promoting further Labour/Guardian smears against Lynton Crosby, who has committed the unforgivable sin of spearheading a Tory revival. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23401074
Well I never!
See this:
http://order-order.com/2013/07/22/crosby-presentation-organised-by-labour-lobbyist-labour-mps-attended-event-held-in-commons/
And now this:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23401074
And see how little the BBC have done to correct the Labour/Guardian lies. They are a disgrace.
This was one of the main stories on The Today programme this morning; “Downing Street is facing further questions over the activities of lobbyist Lynton Crosby…”
Whatever happened to these “two sources” the BBC was supposed to require for stories.Obviously doesn’t matter if it’s a guardian allegation and the target is the Tories. Tory paedophile? Tories destroying the NHS? Who cares whether it’s accurate, it fits the BBCnarrative so just broadcast away.
Reading the Guardian readers comments on this story , full of predictable blind hatred aimed at the Conservatives. To be expected from Guardian readers, but how many of the “undecided” voting population will have heard the story and think, well maybe there is something in these claims about the Tories destroying healthcare. Perhaps I shouldvote labour.
BBC bias and in this case misinformation, all adding to the constant drip drip anti-Tory message.
God I hate the BBC.
Fair’s fair, lads, if you recall how they went after Alastair Campbell when Labour were in power.
Oh, hang on…..
I don’t normally go on the BBC news site. One thing I noticed is that, unlike other news websites, they don’t allow the reader the opportunity to comment on the story. To me, that smacks of cowardice. Is a differing opinion to the official BBC view really so terrible and terrifying that they would deny people the right to reply?
I like this paragraph:
“Having worked in political communications in the UK for nearly 9 years I know the process and it is very clear. The Labour Party are using two newspapers, supported by the BBC, to try and get a scalp which will weaken the Prime Minister.”
from http://edstaite.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/lessons-to-learn-from-guardian-and.html
‘I spent 9 years at 5 Live where if you didn’t do the prep you’d be exposed as an idiot’
Simon Mayo
Let’s hear it for Radio 5 Rusting Iron Lung – exposing idiots since 1994.
🙂
I have been pondering just what the BBC would have to do to realise that it has brought itself into total disrepute.
Not only Saville but Stuart Hall known paedophiles but several other presenters etc from the 1970s and 1980s have also been accused.
Faking film of the Queen to show her in a negative light.
Advising senior employees to claim they are self employed to evade paying tax – if the majority of their work is for a single employer they should be taxed as though they are employed by that organisation.
The new Director General of the BBC has made at least one appointment to an external candidate without advertising the post. – James Purnell. Lots of small employers would like to do the same saving time and expense but realise their legal obligation – although of course it does save candidates
having false hope that they can be offered the job.
A £600,000 contract to a friend without it going through the bidding procedure – my Local Authority demands that anything over £5,000 should go to tender.
Even in these tough times (The Cuts as they are known by the BBC) it doesn’t seem to apply to people leaving their employment who have been paid considerably more than their contract requires – how do they think this seems to the people struggling to pay their license.
So even without bias the BBC really doesn’t seem to see that it is answerable to the license payers nor does it appear that any scandal will bring an iota of shame. Has anyone a suggestion of what would be big enough to bring down the Corporation?
Semtex, and a determined band of brothers…
If I was some businessmen being quizzed by Paxman I would simplest state…
“Sorry, the BBC has no right to take the moral high ground and demand answers to any questions. The BBC helps itself to public cash, shelters paedophiles, and is one of the least accountable most secretive organisations in the country. I refuse to answer any questions because you had no credibility whatsoever workingfor such a corrupt and and dysfunctional organisation.”
Wouldn’t it be great, the entire empire would instantly become irrelevant and crumble within a few weeks if everyone took the same stance against them.
Spot on. I despair at their hypocrisy whenever they boast of a scoop resulting from yet another of their FOI requests – the same open, democratic process for making information public they spent £300,000 fighting against to protect their secret 28gate meeting.
Arrogant bastards.
Don’t forget the £100 million (at least – doesn’t include BBC salaries working on the programme plus lots of other hidden costs) on the vanity Digital programme (Off the shelf would have worked and cost a tenth of the wasted money. But don’t worry James Purnell has told us lessons have been learnt – oh and in any case other savings made by reorganisation means they are still saving money for the License payer (If you can p”s taht amount of money up the wall and still make savings it’s either a statistical lie or indicative of an incredibly wasteful organisation) Now the story has died down how many of those who ‘stepped aside’ whilst being investigated as to how they wasted that much PUBLIC money have been sacked without compensation for incompetence / misconduct / obsfucation / misuese of PUBLIC money – Christ even the MPs didn’t scam this much between them.
Wileyeron
How we all laughed when ex-droid Craig Oliver turned up at his new job at Downing Street and expected everyone to be impressed with his BBC uniform – bicycle clips, iPad, and Beats by Dr Dre headphones.
The G-rap thing seems to be getting more ubiquitous at Droidville. This morning on The Yo Show one of the presenters, either Ju-We or Ev-Da said
‘Here’s where we’re at’.
I think unless yo is shonuff a gangsta rapper the ‘at’ is superfluous. I expect Ju-We will swap his bicycle for a ‘whip’ and move out of his studio flat in Salford Quay into a ‘crib’.
Keep it real, homies and quest with ya tribe.
Arizona: In April 2012, Cordell Jude, 22, was driving in Phoenix when Daniel Adkins Jr. walked in front of him with his dog. “Watch it!” Jude yelled to Adkins, who was mentally disabled, according to USA TODAY. Adkins then swung what looked like a pipe in the air and Jude shot and killed him — the pipe-like object turned out to just be a dog leash. Jude claimed self-defense; he remained free for three months, but now faces second-degree murder charges and is set to go to trial next month, according to the Maricopa County Sheriff’s office. The Arizona Stand Your Ground law passed in 2010.
Just a couple of observations:-
1. Daniel Adkins Jr was Hispanic.
2. Cordell Jude is African American.
A short list of people who will not be talking about this particular incident:-
Eric Holder
Barack Obama (If I had a son he would have looked like Cordell Jude – nah, doesn’t have the same ring to it)
The Reverend Al Sharpton
The Reverend Jesse Jackson
The NAACP
Piers Morgan
Stevie Wonder
Kim Kardashian
Any number of African American football & basketball players who cannot resist using twitter
ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN etc etc
and of course
Mark Mardell, Katty Kay and the rest of the BBC.
They will if the African -American man is found guilty. They’ll say its proof that the system is biased against blacks.
Another one we probably won’t be hearing much about.
You forgot to add SKY NEWS to your list.
I’m sure dezscottjameschrisnickedalbaman (and all their alter egos) will be able to find a few lines on the BBC news website.
Come on, lads, a great opportunity for you to demonstrate your beloved corporation’s evenhandedness.
The floor is yours…..
Thought not.
Can’t deal with yet another inconvenient fact.
Perhaps they’re waiting for Sky to run with the story first. Who in turn could be holding off until The Daily Mail mention it. The Mail might be poised and ready to go, but first want to see what The Express have to say on the matter. Meanwhile the Express might just want to read what The Telegraph’s take on the story is before publishing …..
Like the BBC does with ‘climate change’ stories you mean?
What has climate change to do with this topic? Why are you changing the subject? What was the phrase you used, … “Can’t deal with yet another inconvenient fact”…?
This whole “Stand Your Ground” thing is going nowhere fast. All these celebutards now declaring they’re going to boycott Florida are unaware that California has the same kind of law. But it gets funnier.
Illinois has its own version. And guess which Community Organizer voted for it.
The BBC can keep reminding you of how there’s an alleged national outrage about “Stand Your Ground”, but at least it keeps them from having to wonder how The Obamessiah keeps ignoring the black-on-black carnage on His home turf, which already has some of the strictest gun laws in the country. You won’t be seeing the intrepid Jonny Dymond noting the dichotomy, nor any other Beeboid wagging a stern finger, especially the BBC’s US President editor.
Following on from the Daniel Adkins shooting a brief search of the internet came up with the name of Christopher Cervini (aged 17 – just like Trayvon!)
Not guilty: The verdict in the manslaughter trial of Roderick Scott. After more than 19 hours of deliberations over two days, a jury acquitted the Greece man in the shooting death of Christopher Cervini, 17, last April.
“I just want to say thank you to the people who believed in me, who stood by me,” Scott said following the verdict. “I still have my regrets for the Cervini family; it’s still an unfortunate situation for them. I am happy that at least this chapter is over.”
As deliberations dragged on over two days and the jury asked for testimony to be read back, Scott admits he didn’t know how it would all turn out.
“I was nervous of course,” he said. “You never know what direction this whole thing is going to turn, so I have no idea. But it worked out and I feel that justice (was) served today.”
Cervini’s family members say justice wasn’t served. They say Christopher was murdered in cold blood, that he’d never been in trouble and Scott acted as judge, jury and executioner.
“The message is that we can all go out and get guns and feel anybody that we feel is threatening us and lie about the fact,” said Jim Cervini, Christopher’s father. “My son never threatened anybody. He was a gentle child, his nature was gentle, he was a good person and he was never, ever arrested for anything, and has never been in trouble. He was 16 years and four months old, and he was slaughtered.”
Scott says he acted in self defense when he confronted Cervini and two others saying they were stealing from neighbors cars. He told them he had a gun and ordered them to freeze and wait for police.
Scott says he shot Cervini twice when the victim charged toward him yelling he was going to get Scott.
“How can this happen to a beautiful, sweet child like that?” asked Cervini’s aunt Carol Cervini. “All he wanted to do was go home. And then for them to say, he was saying, ‘Please don’t kill me. I’m just a kid,’ and he just kept on shooting him.”
Scott says the last seven months have been difficult for him and his family. If he could go back to the events in the early morning hours of April 4, there are things he says he would do differently.
“If it meant a person not losing their life, absolutely,” he said. “Would I still have tried to stop what was going on? That I would have done. But if I knew ahead of time that I could do something to help somebody from losing their life, I don’t want anyone to lose their life.”
Scott says the first thing he was going to do was go home and get a good night sleep. When asked if he’ll continue living in his current home, which is just one street away from the Cervini’s, he said “for the time being.”
In case you couldn’t guess:-
Roderick Scott – African American
Christopher Cervini – White
Is that a sketch by John Cleese and Connie Booth?
Am I hearing Rik Mayall chatting with Dawn French?
Or perhaps the spirit of the late Mel Smith is in conversation with Pamela Stephenson?
Nope, it’s Nicky Campbell and Rachel Burden taking the piss out of the Royal baby news on BBC 5 Live.
Look, BBC presenters, you are not 1980s alternative comedians. I do so wish the BBC could remind their presenters of this basic fact.
When I want to hear anti-Royal jokes I can always tune into BBC Radio 4
If you don’t like the Royals then simply don’t mention the Royal birth!
Please don’t sit there lapping up all the news and yet keep smirking and kidding around so as to maintain your Lefty cred!
I suppose this is BBC radio’s attempt to find ‘a different way’ to cover the event, Jubilee style. Sick bags at the ready.
They love to sneer at this kind of thing – those silly Middle Englanders with their naff populism. Let’s all laugh at them as we reluctantly do our job. Smug. Loathsome. Bastards.
David Starkey’s new show was a little unusual. A celebration of English history and culture.
But there was something missing that normally marks out the BBC history documentary. You know, the BBC history money shot. It was that moment where the presenter holds up some minor artifact originating from the far end of the Mediterranean and lovingly declares ‘This shows how fabulously DIVERSE society was!’
Not to worry, Prof Starkey will not be contributing to Horrible Histories. Normal service will be resummed.
At the dog end of the previous Open thread friend of the BBC Chris critised my joking about BBC TV sports coverage being a jinx.
I mentioned the England Women’s Soccer team and Westwood’s defeat in the golf. I noted that it was a relief that only Channel 5 and Sky televised the Ashes.
My satire was in response to BBC presenters attempting to latch on to a supposed David Cameron sports jinx favoured by Labour PR spinners and itself a retaliation for Guido Fawkes anti-Gordon brown jibes.
BBC sports presenters have no business whatsoever indulging in this sort partisanship.
To recap :
The incidents were :
1. John Inverdale in a hand over with John Pienaar on BBC 5 Live. Out of nowhere Inverdale twice tried to make the PM jinx joke. Pienaar, the seasoned political reporter, perhaps aware of the Labour spinning involved, tried to calm him down.
Maybe Inverdale ought to have tucked his trunk in pre his sexist Wimbledon ramblings. Of course Left-leaning Twitter went into overdrive about his ‘not a looker’ comments. Funny how casual Leftism is tolerated.
2. Saturday 9pm BBC News 24 where John Bond made a snide remark about the PM’s visit to the Olympic Park and again harped on the jinx.
Interestingly when his report was shown on BBC1 at 10pm his biased and meaningless jibe was cut.
From these inccidents I infer that the BBC sports office culture is anti-Cameron.
How would you explain them? If casual remarks expose supposed institutional sexism or racism then how about casual Leftist remarks?
“Andy Murray will have to withstand the ‘Curse of Cameron’ as well as the threat of Spanish dangerman Fernando Verdasco to reach the Wimbledon semi-finals.”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/article-2354534/Wimbledon-2013-Has-David-Cameron-cursed-Andy-Murray-jinxed-PM-sends-good-luck-message.html
“It’s that man again… Cameron curse strikes on tearful Robson”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/tennis/wimbledon/10153890/Its-that-man-again…-Cameron-curse-strikes-on-tearful-Robson.html
Looks like the right wing press were the first to report this “jinx”.
Not that “facts” matters where this site is concerned.
Albaman – just because the Press does it doesn’t mean to say that the publicly funded BBC has to.
It seems we have touched quite a nerve with our friends of the BBC by highlighting these BBC lapses.
Yes for some reason they’ve all been crawling out of the woodwork these past few days like hyperactive woodlice after too many cans of red bull.
Yes, a quite intense and co-ordinated effort over the last couple of weeks.
Coincidence or magic? You decide…..
…or, it’s because people here have been:
– making sweeping generalisations with no evidence to back them up
– alleging bias where there isn’t any in a particular case
– claiming the BBC hasn’t reported something when it has
– making false statements, such as David Brims’ ‘99.9% of the police force is white’, or his ‘Mo Farah has lived most of his life in Somalia’
And what makes you say it’s been ‘co-ordinated’? As I’ve said before, I have no connection to the BBC, or to anybody else here. Is it beyond you to understand that there are independently-minded people who disagree with you?
There have been scores and scores of posts giving opportunities to rebut BBC bias (and most a lot more serious in content than the ones you and your fellow BBC defenders have suddenly chosen to start arguing with) but for some reason you have all managed to ignore them.
I suggest that if you are an ‘independent thinker’ and not just a BBC-brainwashed droid you get involved in the current thread about the backlash from Andrew Neil’s interview with Ed Davey, or the BBC’s obsession with giving Abibongo’s (or whatever his name is) brother a platform for making uncorroborated accusations.
And I stand by what I was suggesting – that the sudden flocking of the trolls after months of sporadic, mainly individual activity, is more than coincidence.
As I said the “facts” don’t matter on this site.
As both the DM and Telegraph are bought by the public and contain advertising ultimately funded by the public it could be argued that they are also “publicly funded”.
Perhaps a better way to describe the BBC is “government funded” as it was the government that enacted the legislation and it is the government of the day who set the license fee .
Careful with your twisting there you will end up in a right tangle. The BBC is funded by the TV tax – ie paid by you and I and not some abstract government magic money tree. But you reckon the press is publicly funded – that’s quite a leap. I think you are worried because the BBC has made gaff that shows bias.
Virtually the entire British PUBLIC is FORCED to fund the BBC.
No-one is FORCED to buy the Mail or the Telegraph.
Is that too complicated for you ?
Is that too complicated for you ? Seriously it is the BBC chorus girls are not about understanding they are just sad little girls wasting time, oxygen and the planets resources since the day they were spawned and fed into the line to defend a multi billion £ corporation ! what was the phrase ‘lions lead by donkeys’ well these are ‘donkeys led by jack asses ‘
The short answer to your question John is yes.
Albaman and the rest of our collection of left wing trolls and defenders of the indefencable are incapable of understanding that the BBC is by law requiered to be impartal and report nothing but the facts and in return for this we are legaly obliged to fund it though the license fee.
The problem is that the BBC no longer uphold their side of the bargan and because of this we have this blog when we should be having a public inquiery into its breach of charter.
So McDonalds is publicly funded too because they sell burgers …. to the Public? In fact you, if you are working, are funded by the Public as your wages are paid, indirectly or maybe even directly, who knows, by the Public.
No matter how you try to get this leftist piece of equivalence to fly it won’t. Like you it has feet of clay and cannot leave the ground.
The BBC is funded by a tax that it is illegal not to pay. If you cannot see the difference then you are seriously lacking in intelligence. Perhaps you should eat more fish?
“So McDonalds is publicly funded too because they sell burgers …. to the Public?” – you seem to have answered your own question.
“The BBC is funded by a tax that it is illegal not to pay.” – no, the law states that you to watch “live” television you require a license. It does not say that it is illegal not to have a license.
I believe wild salmon is nice this time of year.
What happens if I don’t buy a burger from them?
If you buy a Whopper at Burger king, by law, you have to pay McDonnalds for using your own mouth for consumption…I mean, one day you might want to use your own mouth to eat a Big Mac!
Them’s the rules…
Albaperson says so.
Licence – noun ( English )
To license – verb ( English )
Unless you’re from USA, where license as a noun is used (Chambers).
Are you from America, like our David?
The DM and the Telegraph are not publicly funded. The argument that advertising is paid by the public is absurd. If accepted it would mean that the capitalist system had never existed and was in fact socialist.
By definition every customer is a member of the public.
The second contention “Government funded’ refering to the BBC is also incorrect.
Governments have no money other than that provided by the citizens. The monies the BBC receives is public money and not Government money. The same with the Army and the NHS and every other department of state. Our money for which our rulers are accountable- at least in theory.
Quite right.
Public funds are a common pot for the use by the state for purpose of the common good. Ahem.
Private funds are funds for the use of the individual owner for his/her own delight.
I buy a burger for myself. Private funds.
I pay the TV Tax so that others can watch ITV for free. Or I would do if I did, IYSWIM. Public funds.
Two purposes, one person. It’s not difficult if you have the grey matter to grasp it. But then I quite like a bit of turbot every now and again …
“The argument that advertising is paid by the public is absurd.”- who does pay for it them?
“By definition every customer is a member of the public.” – exactly what I said.
“Governments have no money other than that provided by the citizens.” – or in other words the public.
“The monies the BBC receives is public money …………” – yes, the money comes from the same public who buy any other goods and service.
A piece of hake?
mackeral has more oil
Surely Albaman it is more simple. It all comes from the money-tree. Just do a little shakey-shakey.
1.Advertising bills are paid by the company that commissions them. it is disingenuous to say that the public pays them. Why single out advertising ?
2. An incontrovertible reality. Except you and I have a different view of reality.
3. Ditto
4. The monies received by the BBC are raised by the Government and thus are the proceeds of taxation.
The fact that it is not compulsory to own a TV is irrelevant. It is still tax money from those desire to own a TV.
As a business model it stinks but there you are.
As both the DM and Telegraph are bought by the public and contain advertising ultimately funded by the public it could be argued that they are also “publicly funded”.
Blimey, Albaman, even by your standards that is one helluva dim statement to make! Newspapers attract advertising for one simple reason – their circulation i.e. there’s no point advertising if not enough people are going to see it. People buy certain newspapers because they like what they publish. People buy the products of certain advertisers because they like those products – they have a choice there too, and it’s called a capitalist system (wonderful how it works, eh?). So….choice, choice, choice. I do NOT have a choice paying for the BBC, whether I like them or not. It really is that simple.
So the public sector now encompasses the private sector because many members of the public work in the private sector? You are Humpty Dumpty and I claim my five pounds.
“it could be argued”
It could. But only if argument for the sake of it is the aim, and in so doing looking less than coherent, acceptable self-inflicted collateral damage.
‘Perhaps a better way to describe the BBC is “government funded”’
Perhaps some already have a quaint notion of where ‘government funds’ come from that explains so much else, if offering little excuse?
I say again… BBC sports reporters have no business whatsoever in coming out with these remarks. You quote two reports in the privately owned and voluntary reader purchased press – so what?
Albaman, the Daily Mail editor, Paul Dacre, is a good friend of Gordon Brown and is no friend of the likes of Cameron. The Barclay Bros who own the Telegraph are an eccentric pair to say the least. If you read the telegraph regularly you will have noticed that the paper is certainly not pro-Tory since the coalition government was formed. You can no longer depend on the paper being loyal to the Conservative Party under Cameron.
It could just be that the Labour Party has been pretty successful with its spin with the media.
But in the (substantial) intervening period since those articles were written the jinx has proven to be bollocks; Murray won Wimbledon.
There is thus no justification in continuing to refer to it.
Somebody explain ‘publicly funded’ to Albania Man.
He hasn’t quite grasped it yet.
🙁
This remark is so very typical BBC sponsored so-called comedian-esque Albatrossman: ‘the law states that you to watch “live” television you require a license. It does not say that it is illegal not to have a license.’
I can almost hear him chuckle ‘ner-ner, ner-ner-ner!’
So, you thought Chris Froome was the second-in-a-row British winner of the Tour de France? Well, early yesterday morning, bBBC radio was broadcasting that he was Kenyan, and had an interview with the local man who first saw Froome on a bike and was claiming credit for his triumph!
Doesn’t work for the Somali living in the USA who wins gold medals for Britain, though.
Froome’s BIO own website states:
” Froome’s journey into road cycling started when he moved to South Africa for schooling as a teenager. However, back home in Kenya he had only ever ridden a mountain bike, guided into the sport by The Safari Simbaz founder David Kinjah. Kinjah was an inspiration to Froome and training together in the rural highlands north of Nairobi is what ignited the passion for cycling which Froome has today. ”
http://www.chris-froome.com/bio
That is a quote from his biographical details. The point of the post refered to the BBC waving an African flag in our faces.
Well he was born in Kenya to a mother born in Kenya so that would make him at least half-Kenyan and in his early years in cycling he competed under the Kenyan flag.
Once again bBBC contributors ignore the facts!!
‘….mother born in Kenya so that would make him at least half-Kenyan…’ Really? At least ‘half’ ‘Kenyan’? His mother may have been born in colonial Kenya – we would need to check the date but tell us, what fractional difference would that make? Once again you are tying yourself up in a pointless knot of racial and national complications. You deliberately misconstrue a post then twist logic to try to prove some factual failing. Then shout ner-ner, ner-ner-ner. Why bother?
I suppose all this Kenya flag waving stuff fits well with the BBC house-style. Just check their presenter’s Twitter profiles – ‘half Greek’ ‘Scottish broadcaster’ ‘second generation Irish’ Anything remotely non-English they can think of to make up for their ‘hideous whiteness’.
“Once again you are tying yourself up in a pointless knot of racial and national complications.”
Where did I mention race?
Ner-ner, ner-ner-ner. You see Albatrossman, now I’ve descended to your level of argument.
Albaman picks on the least important of posts (with due respect to the posters) whilst ignoring the bigguns (28gate, Balen etc etc) then claims some overhwelming proof that we never get our facts right.
So, albaman, the facts of the 28gate meeting were…….(your chance to put us straight, in as many words as you like).
Thought not And not your first ‘fail’ on the topic either.
Anyone bothered asking Mr Froome?
That’s like, journalism isn’t it?
Aletrnatively they can make insinutaions to prove some sort of BBC-mandated point celebrating ethnic diversity and downplaying the odious patriotism
It’s the unique way it is funded
Albaman
” he was born in Kenya to a mother born in Kenya so that would make him at least half-Kenyan.”
Jesus was born in a stable, I suppose that makes him half a horse then !
So what does that make Obama ?
Cosmo, my little mischievous friend.
According to the BBC, that makes Obama, God !
God is black! I just knew it.
A two-term president who has achieved the square root of effall, but got a Nobel Peace Prize for his pains.
And he said something about 35 years ago, he wanted to be Beyoncé. Or if he had a son he would look like Beyoncé. Or he wished his son looked like Beyoncé……….something like that.
To don for a moment the proud camel hair posing pouch of the pedant, it should be pointed out that he was awarded the Nobel Prize before he “achieved the square root of effall”, his wond’rous Presidency then merely a sunrise of infinite hope and possibility illuminating the suddenly bright eyes of the peoples of the world who, staggering, blinking into the good light after the Stygian darkness of the Chimpy McBushHitler captivity were roused to spontaneous song by the glory of the sight they had (somehow) survived to behold.
Or something..
So as I understand it, Obummer got the Nobel Prize for what he MIGHT achieve……….??
Cool.
“Dear Mr. Nobel, I expect that at some point I may well be able to achieve World Peace and Harmony, a cure for halitosis and solve the Riddle of the Sphinx, so can I have my 100 thousand quid now, please.
Just make the cheque out to ‘Cash’.
Thanks in anticipation, Dave.”
‘…..but got a Nobel Peace Prize for his pains.’
Shouldn’t that be ‘got a Nobel peace Prize before things got painful’?
Ask the Kenyan government they seem to know.
If they follow Albaman’s line of thought, how come the Beeb don’t refer to the beloved Obamessiah as Kenyan then?
Or half-white?
‘White-Kenyan’?
The BBC turn a blind eye to the reason she was jailed -islam and that her male attacker received three months less than her.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23404042
After that amazing round yesterday to win the Open golf, Phil Michelson was being hugged by his caddie – who was in tears. Nothing unusual in that, I suppose. But the caddie is Jim “Bones” Mackay – a black man, and they have been together for 20 years.
How does that fit with the BBC’s theme that the US is irredeemably racist ?
No doubt because you are a decent chap, you have not quite grasped the subtleties of the BBCs attitude to race and the BBC.
Michelson is a honky golfist,
Bones is a caddy and black.
A caddy is a golfists servant.
Therefore America is racist
That’s … the BBCs attitude to race and the US not BBC of course.
addendum 2: That’s Mickelson not Michelson.
It’s the damn heat I tell you. 🙂
Bones is black? News to me.
As a non golfist I went by John Anderson’s assertion that ‘Bones’ is black. But you are correct he don’t look the least bit black …
According to Wikipedia he is English.
Just for clarification, Jim ‘Bone’s’ MacKay was originally born in England and is ‘hideously white’.
My problem is touched on in another post, another sport, on this site where the BBC’s Jonathan Agnew complained that the greatest living Yorkshire man, Geoff Boycott was trying to tell DC to carry on ‘running the country’. However an actress, Ruth Wilson, interviewed, was selling a turd of a movie called the ‘Lone Ranger’, piped up ‘well some has to do!’ Ho! Ho!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0372cr0 at 5h 22m
39 seconds
Jonathan Agnew, the cricket expert on Radio 3’s ‘Test Match Special’, has obviously turned native because he was overwhelmed by an interview he had with Lily Allen, the doyen of Socialists, a couple of years ago.
Jonathan Agnew is a fine cricket commentator – his main failing is his overwhelming sense of BBC-ness (I hesistate to call him a Beeboid but he comes close). When Lord-help-us Patten turned up in the TMS box this weekend there was a real cringe moment when just like Young Mr Grace from Are You Being Served he called out ‘You’ve all done very well!’ Like all well trained BBC’ers Aggers feels the liberal cringe and so to him the broadcasting of Leftist views are just fine.
BBC News online politics has an article penned by journalist and campaigner Ben Davies telling of his experiences when applying to be a Labour Party election candidate. Ex-public schoolboy Ben found it all very straightforward and fair, and nothing like the Unite stitch-ups. My complaint is that BBC online politics should really have declared that Ben Davies spent nearly 6 years as a reporter for BBC online politics. He then went on to the New Statesman, where his blurb states
Ben Davies trained as a journalist after taking most of the 1990s off
and then he went straight into the job at the the BBC.
Ben, if you ever get to be a Labour PPC, might I suggest that you fight the election with the slogan ‘ A decade off for all!’
BBC and its bigging-up of the Trayvon Martin rallies in the US yesterday.
The Los Angeles rally was one of the biggest. Usual turnout of Occupy nutters, various factions of the US Communist parties, some blacks. Total attendance – about 200, and many of them were journalists mingling with the small crowd.
And the BBC thinks that is news, is still running this dead “story” even today ? That there is roiling discontent about the Zimmerman being declared not guilty ?
…..and the population of greater LA is what – 30 million ? More ?
So less than one person in every 300,000 in LA bothered to attend the well-publicised rally. But the agenda-driven BBC sees these miserable turnouts as “news” – allowing them to carry on bleating about a foolish young thug who described himself as “No_limit_Nigga” and chose deliberately to assault and batter George Zimmerman.
Sadly there were probably five or six other protests happening in the city over real issues and the BBC ignored them.
‘Nuff said:
http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2013/07/22/microscopic-rallies-for-trayvon/
Powerful. Should be required viewing for all the racists that have been controlling the story, from the President through the left-wing media.
According to Reuters, in New York a grand total of 2000 people showed up Saturday to protest in favor of Trayvon Martin in the George Zimmerman trial. That’s .00024257 of the population of our most populous city. More New Yorkers show up for pizza at Ray’s between 6:00 and 6:05 in the evening. (Well, who knows? But you get my point.)
And this is only the first paragraph.
‘Now we should just leave it alone— let the scab heal. Morgan Freeman said this best in a famous interview with Mike Wallace on 60 Minutes back in 2006. (Unfortunately, the great actor rescinded this later. But I prefer to believe in this more sophisticated, calmer Morgan.)’
I wonder which Inquisition got to Morgan, then? And are they affiliated to the Warmist Inquisition?
Ah, yes – Trayvon Martin:
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2013/07/22/must-watch-video-of-the-lynching-of-george-zimmerman/
Apologies. My post above was intended to be attached to this post and the video.
Powerful. Should be required viewing for all the racists that have been controlling the story, from the President through the left-wing media.
They would simply close their eyes, stick their fingers in their ears, and go la la la la-la.
Too many inconvenient facts, which is why you won’t find albaman and co in this immediate vicinity.
Agree the numbers are minuscule.
However, they are probably still large enough to make life very difficult for Mr Zimmerman over the next few years.
Wouldn’t like to be in his shoes.
Did any of the world-class journalists at the BBC ask the California righteous if they were protesting against California’s own “Stand Your Ground” law?
No? The silence of lurking professional journalists on this will speak volumes.
I hear that George Zimmerman is changing his name to Ben Gazi. So the leftie media including the BBC will ignore him.
The Royal non-baby (as I write) ‘news’ is receiving saturation coverage, with the usual bBBC bias. They think taxpayers will be reassured to know that the Duchess is in the Lindo wing which has the benefit of being based in an NHS hospital.
Yes, I’m sure the Royal family will be happy for her to be left alone, in her own excrement, dehydrated and ignored while the staff of the Nationalised Death Service attend to their latest union meeting.
What an utterly appalling sad old git you sound. And the likes I take it from fellow republicans pretending they are British.
I take it you are another childless, friendless wonder without friend or lover.
Clearly never had children.
But you left your mark on this planet. You contributed here!
Having just spent the morning in Lewisham Hospital, I think Sir Arthur’s caustic wit is LOL funny.
I think that’s a record number of ad hominems in a 5-line reply, person with an identity problem.
It’s strange how liberals / marxists like Albaniaman are very quick to say Chris Froome is Kenyan, African
Yet when it comes to Mo Farah, they gush ” he’s British through and through, you couldn’t get more British than him !! they never mention he was born and spent most of his life in Somalia, odd that, isn’t it ?
Well, if Mo Farah is British, then I’m a Dutchman !
Mo Farah is about as British as a Three pound note.
Mo Farah ‘spent most of his life in Somalia’, did he?
He moved to Britain aged 8, and he’s 30 years old. Hardly ‘most’ of his life, is it?
His Dad was also born in Britain and grew up in Hounslow.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/athletics/brian-viner-interviews-mo-farah-846351.html
I wouldn’t say it’s impossible to get more British than Mo Farah. I, as a born and bred Brit, consider myself more British than him. But that doesn’t mean he isn’t British – he is legally British, and he’s very proud to represent Britain.
The British passport is meaningless now, the labour party from 1997 to 2010 was throwing them about like confetti to subvert the country. Peter Mandelson admits it.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2324112/Lord-Mandelson-Immigrants-We-sent-search-parties-hard-Britons-work.html
Well Mandelson didn’t go looking for Farah – he had been here since 1991.
OK, lets’s look at all the other things that make up his Britishness then. He speaks fluent English, he supports an English football team, he’s proud to be British, he’s lived here most of his life.
You don’t have to consider him British, but he does, the law does, and millions of British people do too.
Chris gets desperate
”Mo Farah speaks fluent English, he supports an English football team !!!”
You missed out ” He likes going down to his local pub with his ‘geezer’ cockney chums to watch SKY sports and drink olde English ale and eat jellied eels, ”
I suppose his favourite film star is Dick van Dyke in Mary Poppins ?
Absolute pathos.
Why did you add the exclamation marks? I didn’t put them in. But hey, nothing like trying to misrepresent what I wrote is there?
Do you disagree with my final paragraph?
At one time millions of people and the law thought the Earth was flat.
And when it was proved to not be flat, some people were still stupid enough to insist that it was. What’s your point?
Hello Scott!
So you admit to misrepresenting what I wrote in an attempt to portray me as desperate?
And that you were wrong about saying he had lived most of his life in Somalia?
Of course, the fact that millions of people think something doesn’t necessarily mean they’re right. But your analogy to the earth being flat doesn’t work, as it was before humans knew all the facts and realised that the earth is round. People know all the facts about Farah, and yet most consider him British.
You don’t consider Farah British. Fine. But he does, I do, and millions of others do too. I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree.
Chris mate
I suppose if an extraterrestrial landed his flying saucer in Britain, given a British passport by the government, I suppose he too would be British, even though he was born 50 Billion light years away ! yeah.
You haven’t answered my questions, unless that ‘yeah’ at the very end counts as your answer.
Farah had lived here for a number of years before he received his British citizenship (I can’t find the exact year he got it, but I think it was around 2000 to judge from this
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/1811694/Mo-Farah ). He must therefore have fulfilled all the requirements to become a British citizen. Farah didn’t come from outer space, so I don’t think your comparison with an extra-terrestrial is fair. If an alien did come I don’t think anyone would be concerned with assigning him a nationality.
Chris gets desperate
I notice that, yet again, you avoid that he countered your fiction with facts. You said Farah spent most of his life in Somalia, Chris countered with the truth. It was only your persistent nonsense that caused him to respond in a way that allowed you to avoid your original error.
I wonder how many times you must post pure fantasies before even the most hardened Biased BBC commenter has to admit that you’re an inherent liar?
Scott
Get a grip.
Someone’s touchy. Hit a nerve, did we?
No, not really, just bored.
Scott, why don’t you post under your real name?
Say something derogatory about gaye folk, then he will.
hi scott, what did u think about that murderous muslim terrorist on the front cover of rolling stone magazine, did u think he was hot?
Ah, Beebinator. The intellectual giant who once said to me “please excuse me if i sound like i want to punch you teeth so far down your thoat the dentist would have to extract them from your arse hole, but i view u as a fifth columnist, and your head should be hung on traitors gate u big eared muppet”
Grown up yet? No? Shame.
It’s easier for UKIP supporters in Rotherham to get their kids back off Social Services than it is for Scott to give up a grudge.
Beebinator is to be pitied. One sees him with his trousers around his ankles in front of the monitor in a continual state of arousal and apoplexy.
His anti-gay rant (clearly he gets of on young men eh?) is because he’s never had the nerve to come out and live the life he should have.
Instead he bottles it up in far right rants and a leather fetish.
Not for Beebinator the touch of another human being, not for Beebinator to have ever been loved by another.
Oh sad lonely little man.
Now, now. No need to descend to his level, no matter how tempting. It only serves to validate the poor man.
Scott, you’ve become the stereotype of the petulant,bitchy queen, and you only got yourself to blame.
Oh wow well that’s the most contrived and weak bit of camp BBC wit I have seen in years jebus you pro BBC gals really have no idea ! tell you what hot beebvibrator go ask your mom about humour she will be up stairs ironing [as we know how sexist you BBC types are ] your batman suit so you and you minion [well assuming yer mom has got rid of the stains you left on him ??] can spend the evening recreating your fave scene from the BBC sh???? soz hit show ‘only fondler’s and pedos ‘
wow ive got fans, thanks im flattered, but sorry, i dont drop anchor in poo bay
pathetic, i said as a soldier id gladly sacrifice my life in order to protect scotts right to be gay, unlike the terrorists he thinks are hot who would have him swinging from a rope
sorry scott youre a terrorist loving scumbag, i should post your details on redwatch
Mo Farah was asked the question by a beeb reporter asking whether he felt more Somalian than British but sadly for the narrative M o came back overwhelmingly as a self described Brit, actually mocking the idea that he might consider himself Somalian given the wonderful life, support and freedoms he had enjoyed since moving to the UK.
Funnily enough it was never re[played much and the same question – thankfully has not been repeated.
MO Farah British and proud – in the US because of the training regime and possibly onerous tax regime instigated by Broon as an illiterate economic act but highly intelligent well poisoning for the Tories – no one should condemn him for that anymore than Alex Trout would condemn St Sean of Connery
Ho Hum.
“It’s strange how liberals / marxists like Albaniaman are very quick to say Chris Froome is Kenyan, African”
Merely pointed out the facts David. Something that you don’t seem to like.
I could hazard a guess at your reaction were Froome black but that would hardly stretch the mind.
”Chris Froome was born on 20 May 1985 in Nairobi, Kenya, to Kenyan-born mother Jane and father Clive, a former hockey player who represented England at under-19 level.
His mother’s British parents emigrated from Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England to Kenya to run a crop farm. Froome has two older brothers, Jonathan and Jeremy, who went to Rugby School in Warwickshire, England.
Froome moved to South Africa as a 14-year-old to attend St John’s College in Johannesburg.”
Yeah, according to Albaniaman, Chris Froome is practically a Zulu warrior !
Where did I say that?
Ha ha!
Top school.
Last week the BBC had TOP headlines claiming that Israel and the Palestinians were about to start direct peace talks. It all sounded a bit sudden – although we knew that Sec of State John “Swiftboat” Kerry was jetting around the Middle East and concentrating on the oasis of calm in Israel rather than all the hotspots where Islamists are causing trouble.
I thought at the time that it all sounded flaky. And it was not TOP news elsewhere.
It seems indeed that there is little prospect of any meaningful talks, the Palestinians are still demanding as a pre-condition that Israel would revert to pre-1967 borders.
So the BBC has been suckered once more. “World class journalism” my ass.
http://hotair.com/archives/2013/07/22/abbas-no-direct-talks-arent-about-to-begin-again/
Both sides have agreed to put any results to a referendum – but it is axiomatic in the Middle East that what one side will find acceptable, the other won’t – even if we assume that at least one side will rig the vote anyway.
The BBC are at it again, trying to help Labour smear Crosby. This time they have teamed up with the Guardian over the NHS for a topping smear. Unfortunately, as Guido points out, the smear doesn’t quite work and the BBC is forced to back track slightly and quote the other side, for once – well down in the article with only a denial in the first paragraph.
That doesn’t, of course, stop them perpetuating the smear in the final paragraphs.
You have to hand it to them. Even when caught red handed they try to bluff it out.
You would have thought the McAlpine smear would have taught them a lesson, as in ‘lessons have been learned.’ Unfortunately it seems fact checking is still an unknown art at the BBC, or at least the semblance of it is.
Probably a puff-piece to help get their man Burnham off the hook – Burnham the man who has nothing of value to say on the Health Service.
Rather than quote him thus…..’Shadow health secretary Mr Burnham said: “It is more evidence of a shocking conflict of interest that David Cameron has created at the heart of his government.
“Shortly after Lynton Crosby started work for the Conservative Party, the government shifted its position in favour of private health companies by trying to sneak NHS regulations through the House forcing services out to the market.’…… ,the BBC might have asked him, why then Labour opened up the NHS to the market? or, wasn’t it the case that following his mismanagement of the Health Service the system was broken and the NHS not fit for purpose.
The BBCs interviewing of Burnham is like asking the Captain of the Titanic for his views on seamanship.
The smear doesn’t quite work is an understatement. If Guido’s account is correct, it’s an absolute mess. I do hope Burnham is not going to be on the 6 0’Clock news on the strength of this.
More detail here
http://edstaite.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/lessons-to-learn-from-guardian-and.html
As he says:
“Unfortunately the pursuit of Lynton Crosby is unlikely to end today. When the next story is being punted around on social media have a look, read between the lines and look at what isn’t said. Then you’ll get a better understanding of that ‘leak’ and the motives behind the ‘story'”
The BBC-its what they do
This is a disgraceful piece of biased reporting, lazily regurgitating the twisted Guardian line without checking the facts (‘lessons still not learned’, BBC?). And if the facts are wrong, the BBC should pull the story – full stop.
Of course, I’m sure dezalbamanchrisjamestommy will be along later with positive proof that the story is 100% factually correct – after all, we always get the facts wrong on here, don’t we?
Over to you, girls n’ boys………
ya da ya da … http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23390975 … protests all over the US – rallies over zimmerman verdict – the trayvon martin protests, in pictures etc.
looks like mr zimmermam, is not on first name terms 😀
at the bbc
essential viewing
bbc world news … skatty kay “Sad news about Helen Thomas – she was a pioneer for women journalists”
hmmm bbc … so surprises
do they mean … helen “jews get the hell outta israel” thomas
this helen thomas
yep! this one
carreer ended by anti semitic rant
BBC-NUJ’s idea of 24 hour news:-
All day, ‘breaking water news’
“Plenty more to come from us-though none of it will be news!”
Can we have that in Latin, and stencil it along Media Citys waterfront walls?…it`s the BBC to to tee these days!
Happy to oblige …
est puer.
I note that the BBC are still getting off on Trayvon Martin and his scrape in an inter-racial spat in Florida.
Think we should all call him Martin Trayvon….as that nice Islamic lady did on Thought For the day this morning.
Three stories of last week then
1. Nigerian nutjob psychopath loses a couple of tetth
2. Multi culti Hispanic acquitted of attacking his assailant , after sue process of law, and six female jurors.
3. The attackers of some Jesus nut who probably wasn`t a great organist anyway…they get a few years for killing the old bloke somewhere up north last Christmas Eve.
Only one of these stories above matters a damn to the British people-the other two are wristbands for the effete and evil PC World to hawk their liberal consciences about to their mates-and to tell the rest of us that it`s getting rightfully harder to send grandad down to his local church on Christmas Eve anymore.
I mean-even a serving British soldier isn`t safe-maybe you should get another religion pops!
The BBC-truly upside down evil cake from start to finish!
I think the ‘Thought for Today’ lady meant “Martin Luther King Van Dross Trayvon O’Bama” but it is quite a mouthful …
A story for the BBC to hide. Zimmerman appears out of hiding and rescues a victim from a truck accident. Just think if only Zimmerman was a Muslim,
http://redstatements.co/zimmerman-pulls-man-from-overturned-truck/
But why ever would the BBC hide this? I mean, when such a lovely (and true!) headline is just begging to be put on their US news page:
“ZIMMERMAN GRABS MAN IN TRUCK!”
Or even “ZIMMERMAN GRABS TWO YOUNG BOYS IN TRUCK”
Or, how about “ZIMMERMAN GRABS MAN IN TRUCK, BUT COULDN’T FIND A BEAUTIFUL, INNOCENT, BLACK BABY TO SHOOT”
Too many words?…ack, they can change it when it suits.
Wonderful example of BBC obfuscation and euthemism here…
Remember the gang of blaggers that ram-raided Selfridges disguised in burkhas?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-23411782
Well, it seems they have been sent down.
“This had all the hallmarks of a professionally planned commercial robbery,” the judge said.
The BBC reports tell us some details about the raid but bulks at any reference to burkhas.
Now look at this from a linked prior BBC report
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-22882676
‘The gang used the religious garments to disguise themselves’
‘religious garments’
RELIGIOUS GARMENTS!
BBC wankers
Oh no, not that old bishop’s mitre trick AGAIN!!!
Must be some of those ‘far right’ 5th columnists that everyone was so convinced were lurking about Kent in 1940 disguised as nuns.
In contrast, ‘Daily Mail’ has:-
“Burka-wearing brothers facing jail after stealing 140 luxury watches in £1.5million Selfridges smash and grab raid”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2364390/Burka-wearing-brothers-facing-jail-stealing-140-luxury-watches-1-5million-Selfridges-smash-grab-raid.html
-Another reason for banning the burka, which INBBC censors:-
the burka is criminal-enabling.
Guess we had better ban stockings as well. And what about those balaclavas favoured by the EDL George?
Shops would not allow in anyone wearing a balaclava or a stocking over the face. Simples.
And if a shopkeeper complains about people wearing Burkas, the wearers will phone Tell Mama, who will then add the complaints to the list of persecutions endured by Muslims. On the other hand, with a stocking or balaclava over your head there is no one to ring.
On the other hand, with a stocking or balaclava over your head there is no one to ring.
I know with all that fabric in front of the eyes it is difficult to see the numbers isn’t it?
If I was a shop keeper then the police might be an option however.
So Albaniaman, a big fan of the pillar box outfit, not a fan of womens rights then ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtCnIAjsKt8
“Ban the Burqa – and the Niqab Too”
{Conclusion}:-
“Nothing in Islam requires turning females into shapeless, faceless zombies; good sense calls for modesty itself to be modest. The time has come everywhere to ban from public places these hideous, unhealthy, socially divisive, terrorist-enabling, and criminal-friendly garments.”
http://www.meforum.org/pipes/4783/ban-the-burqa-and-the-niqab-too
Where did I say that?
Your statement clearly suggests that the burqa shouldn’t be banned.
Unless you’re just trying to be a smart-arse.
Either way, you’re not doing yourself any favours.
Balaclavas aren’t worn as daily attire though are they?
The gang used the religious garments to disguise themselves’
—————————————————————————
Did they go the whole hog and shout ‘political statements?
‘the whole hog’.
Oops 🙁
Naughty step.
I think today has shown us a lovely insight into the BBC mindset.
Having been in the car twice today I’ve had the “good fortune” of catching both the Today and PM programmes. Coincidentally I’ve caught items discussing Chris Froome’s Tour de France win. On the Today show, pretty much every aspect they discussed had a negative angle to it. We had drugs, something other that was negative and then we had the “well he’s not really British anyway” angle.
We had the drugs angle again on the PM show.
Strange isn’t it how they seem to be fine with drugs, when we’re talking about having them legalised and we have to be all understanding about them when they’re mentioned in the context of feral scrotes running rampant, but somehow they suddenly become dirty seedy filthy things when we can use them to deligitimise another fantastic British sporting achievement.
keep your kids away from anyone at the BBC, another Beebo paedo
“Shearer worked at the BBC’s outside broadcast unit based at its Mailbox site in Birmingham at the time the offences came to light.”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-23411415
“The offences took place between December 2008 and February this year and were said by defence barrister Daniel Oscroft to depict teenage boys who had “gone through puberty”.”
“A BBC spokesperson said: “Darren Shearer no longer works for the BBC – he was suspended at the earliest opportunity upon hearing of the shocking allegations and was dismissed in March 2013.”
It took 5 years of him working at the Beeb…and no one knew his affection for young boys?…NO ONE???
Pull the other one…seems to me the Beeb started to brush out a few skeletons around the time of the Savile scandal.
Watch out for a few more stories like this appearing, containing the dismissal date as “March 2013”
Hold the front page, the Duchess of Cambridge has given birth to a baby !
I hope they name the boy Mohammad since that’s the trajectory where the nation is headed. King Mohammad !
I am just so pleased that the new baby is a boy – will stop endless pontificating although I have noticed that the Beeb are struggling to keep going until 9pm – they are speaking awfully slowly and when you hear someone on the Beeb say that this child will eventually be king if we still have a monarchy it shows where their heart is.
“……………. this child will eventually be king if we still have a monarchy it shows where their heart is.”
Bearing in mind the problems faced by the monarchy over the last decade why is it so unlikely that in some 60+ years it has ceased to exist?
I’d say republicans still have quite a few problems of their own. “President Blair/Prescott/Kinnock/Buggins” being by no means the only one.
Bearing in mind the problems faced by the monarchy over the last decade, the growing strength of its popularity is a sign of the nation’s deeply rooted historical attachment to the instution.
If you are after something Royal then how about a sturgeon?
Don’t carp on at him… 😉
I’m only codding! It’s a bad halibut, I know, and I hake to skate on thin ice as it may plaice me in his bad books but pollocks to that.
I’ll clam up now …
I would have thought Charles will be a Beeboid/liberal dream monarch. As politically correct as they come. Surely the liberal media will welcome him?
As for me I have little time for this Royal line. The last true king of the old English died on the battlefield at Senlac Ridge nearly a 1000 years ago.
When it becomes necessary to discover who we English truly are this is where we must start.
It would be a shame if the UK got rid of its monarchy. Liberals of the type that infest the BBC don’t like the idea of monarchy, because it is based around the concept of the divine right of kings, which itself is rooted in religious tradition. I’m sure they’d much prefer an elected head of state, as in their minds democracy is the pinnacle of political science.
Anyway, the BBC’s snide commentary notwithstanding, the royal birth is a cause for celebration for our country, and I wish the baby and his parents well.
“Liberals of the type that infest the BBC don’t like the idea of monarchy, because it is based around the concept of the divine right of kings, which itself is rooted in religious tradition.”
The sweeping statements just keep on coming.
Any chance that this one can be backed up with some evidence?
Given that you don’t know the difference between public and private money, you think it is all public (save what is in your bank account), do any of your posts have any value? You cannot reason with a fool.
“You cannot reason with a fool. ”
So many to choose from here but I will keep trying.
Every tried debating with facts ? nope so who is the bigger fool ?
Why should he you prove him wrong your the pro BBC girly !
I would like the baby to be called Arthur, as its a long time since we had a King Arthur.
I fear that Cameron will impose the following: Elton, to appeal to the popular culture, thinking of gay marriage, and for the survival of the monarchy in our multiculty state the name Mohammed would be prudent.
SWMBO says the child will be called Toby. Apparently the BBC has announced that the name is Toby Announced Later.
Odd choice.
If it were left to the BBC it would have to be called Trayvonn
Just been searching for BBC coverage of the trial of Brigitte Bardot for her outspoken attack on muslims.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/04/15/us-france-bardot-muslims-idUSL1584799120080415
Nicolas Sarkozy calls for white genocide
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wP3CnYGCaEE
Watched that vid: It was rubbish. Just a series of short phrases edited together to make it seem like Sarkozy was saying something completely different to what he was actually saying, like a BBC-edited version of an Obama speech or a Zimmerman 911 call. If I want a mash-up I’ll watch a cassetteBoy video thx.
Mr Chilli
Thanks for your input.
How dare the BBC spend so much time on the Royal brat? Don’t they know that they should be reflecting OUR minority view in all broadcasts.? Yes we represent nobody BUT we must have our view heard.
Why oh Why do I pay the licence fee for this liberal nonsense.
Utterly cringeworthy interview wasn`t it?
Hillary Wainwright is no Willie Hamilton is she?
Too many lesbian workshops where she made nothing of note.
Poor Justin Webb had to watch his step too-everytime they drone on about wealth and privilege, they know it won`t take too much before they themselves are accused to elitist throne sniffing and bauble grabs themselves there at the BBC.
Hence all the coyness about bankers, CEOs and tax avoidance-they know somebody will blow them out in the show-and we`ll all rejoice when it happens.
A landmine is due…slowburning cant soon to be put up on this site.
Wonder who among us will find this truffle?
BBCisbiased – right, you’ve found the right set of clothes in your dressing-up box at last, now you just need to get the words right………but don’t worry, no rush – you’ll get there in the end i.e. when you’ve grown up.
Today Program.
Amid international rejoicing over the birth of a new prince the BBC manages to go interview some communist from the magazine ‘Red Pepper’ in the interests of ‘balance’.
Funny that the know what ‘balance’ is when it’s a view from the far left which is needed, they never ever manage to find an alternative view when it’s exclusively from the left.
“Who, what, why: Who was Emmett Till?”
I’ve said it before and will say it again – the BBC acts as a Lefty-liberal primer for those unwilling to buy the Guardian.
Give it a week or two and then listen to the lefty drones regurgitate the BBC supplied catchphrases on Question Time, Any Questions et al.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23394324
They just don’t know when to stop.
Maybe if white people just vanished off the face of the Earth, it would be the best for all concerned, after all whitey are ‘waaycists’, every waking moment is spent doing down ‘dem’ black folks !
Outrageous piece, with implications that Zimmerman was a racist despite massive amounts of evidence to the contrary.
It is obscene, warped to compare Emmett Till with Trayvon Martin.
BBC-NUJ has : “Who, what, why: Who was Emmett Till?”
For BBC-NUJ, about British history:-
‘Who, what, why: Who was THOMAS PELLOW?’
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Pellow
black on black, black on black, black on black, black on black, black on black, black on black, black on black, black on black, black on black, black on black, black on black, black on black, black on black, black on black, black on black, black on black, black on black, black on black, black on black, black on black, black on black,black on black, black on black, black on black, vaguely whiteish on black – shriek, howl, gasp, yell, weep.
All these other blacks, yer know, the ones that Barry/ the BBC and the entire drippy-wippy, leftie-weftie ‘establishment’ ignored, could none of them have looked like Barry’s imaginary son, or been Barry 35 years ago?
The message to the black yoot of America is not
‘don’t wear a hoodie’ it’s
‘if you’re going to be shot dead, don’t be shot dead by another black otherwise you are going to be completely ignored by the bien-pensant, chattering, liberal left’
It is in the Left’s interest to keep stoking the fires of racism – it’s part of their raison d’ etre.
Newsnight’s new acting editor is quite a dude. Before the Alaskan global warming story last night there was an extensive interview with a singer – no I had never heard of her – who went on about the Daily Mail being a vile newspaper. Gavin Esler simpered and gushed throughout at such amazing insight from an American.
I wonder is it now a twin-track Beeb policy to see off the Daily Mail and Murdoch?
The American ‘artist’ – although slagging off the Daily Mail which clearly made Esler all warm inside – mused that no one in the circles in which she moved would read that paper. Esler might as well have said ‘me too’. What a strange spectacle of an interview. Radical Leftist ‘artist’ waves her hairy armpits around as Mr Nice Guy Esler sits smug, admiring, unchallenging and simpering.
I heard that. It had echoes of Evan Davis’s, “…I’m mixing in a slightly rarefied metropolitan elite…” earlier in the day.
I’m sure Albaman will be along any minute to point out the true ‘facts’ of that interview.
Labour loving left wing shite, Dame Nikki seems slightly peeved for the joy of little Princy boy arriving.
Baroness Nicky Grey-Thompson had everything crossed in hope that it would be a girl.
The problem seems to be that 5 Live seeks a Twitter-obsessed public sector employed Left-liberal audience. Young and right-on. Becuase of this wrong turn by the BBC their presenters now live in fear under the Lefty-liberal microscope of Twitter. So when it comes to Royal Events the Beeboids have to be very wary so as not to lose their hard won Lefty cred. What comes out is a smug carping giggling pseudo anti-establishment attitude.
Just as that Labour MP told Owen Jones recently ‘You sound like an ’80s alternative comedian – it may be hilarious but it means nothing in real politics’
Here’s how you knock up nother piece of Lefty BBC nonsense to fill the news pages….
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23376561
First the anti-capitalist/anti-English/anti-colonial assertion….
‘In Victorian England, getting a job was all about who you knew.’
Then the Marxist extrapolation with which to critique modern British society….
‘But have things really changed that much, asks Lucy Kellaway.’
Then heap on the admiration for all things foreign/non-British/third world
‘As the British Empire expanded, officials were beginning to get ideas from elsewhere on how they could do things better. ‘
‘The Chinese had developed an examination system from hell that you had to pass to get into the imperial service. In place since the 7th Century, it consisted of a cascading series of dawn-to-dusk tests for which you had to memorise 400,000 characters of Confucian text and master the fiendishly rigid “eight-legged essay”. The pass rate? A mere 1-2%. ‘
But that system doesn’t sound all that ‘progressive’? No matter when in doubt refer to British press xenophobia….
‘From the press came their worst possible insult, then, as now – it was too European. Too German even.’
Now this could get interesting and topical…. there’s scope for a side swipe at Michael Gove’s educational reforms…. and this is well timed as we hear fewer white state school pupils are applying for university and it looks as though reform is needed….
“He [the Victorian reformer] wanted young people to be chosen who had merit – the very best,” says Greenaway. “But he believed that the best were to be found in the gentry, in the professional classes.’
Nice. The NUT are quite right not to want testing exams.
‘nepotism still isn’t quite dead’
‘Fast forward to the present day to see just how comfortably meritocracy and nepotism still co-exist.’
Oh careful now, people may make a mental link to the BBC’s recent recruitment and pay off scandals…
‘To get a sought-after internship at one of the big investment banks…. if your dad also happens to play golf with a senior vice-president, well, the job’s as good as in the bag.’
Ah, banker bashing, that’s the ticket (to Glasto)
it is all becoming irrelevant. Our young people have been failed by a useless education system where only the rich can see children receive a decent education.
I spent last Saturday evening with young Hong Kong Chinese students- 16 years old. Their grasp of our language and their ability to discuss complex matters in it was impressive, far ahead of the average 16 year old state educated Briton.
Bear in mind they also are proficient in Mandarin and Cantonese.
These young men are aiming to become CEos, lawyers, engineers , doctors etc.
Our young simply cannot compete. I had asked them to watch Eastenders to see just how decadent England had become. The illiterate entertaining the incompetent.
They were polite but could not believe that such rubbish existed in a western nation. And Eastenders is but a small part of the endless drivel aimed at our children.
The media and particularly the BBC should be ashamed.
They bear and will bear a large measure of responsibility as this country sinks to third world status.
The counties of East Asia are going to be the world’s next dominant powers.
They owe us nothing and if we are to escape poverty and a terrible decline then we have to change. Liberalism is the enemy of this necessary change. An indulgence in unreality and emotional self indulgence that is crippling us. That is why we must continue to oppose it. It is a culture war that has to be won or we will go down into a nightmare.
‘They bear and will bear a large measure of responsibility as this country sinks to third world status.’
I think they will see it as a great achievement – cue the anti-western ‘mitigating actions against climate change’, aka UN Agenda 21.
I know many will disagree here with what I am going to say, but I feel the BBC has been revoltingly sycophantic in their groveling coverage of the Royal Baby; oh well, at least they’re are being sycophantic over something British as opposed to beards, sandals, grandad nighties and the Koran! But, I’m sick of it. #grumpyguts
Freedom of speech is fast dwindling in these ‘liberal’ times but it still exists to allow you to give your opinion and so it bloody well should.
Personally I raised a glass to the young Prince last night and pray he and his parents have a long and healthy life. This isn’t a swipe at you at all Alex, just a delight that free speech still exists somewhere.
I suspect that like the Wooton Bassett parades and our armed forces generally, the Royal Family is one of those British institutions that even the BBC/UAF/LibLabCon filth won’t dare to take on.
yes, agreed. I am not-anti Royal, really, I just feel that the media went on a bit, but I am very happy for the new child and their mum and dad 🙂 and wish them all the best. I suppose these events do allow those of us who are proud of the Union Jack, a chance to wave it and be proud Brits. 🙂
I agree with you, Alex, totally OTT coverage, not just the BBC. Mind-numbing. The crowds that turned out for the wedding and the jubilee spoke volumes for how the Royal Family binds the nation together – no need for endless banality.
Yep, agree mate. The worst I have to say was not the BBC but that insufferable and gigantic egotist, Kay ‘its all about me, me, me’ Burley. Puerile and embarrassing. Thank God we’re not coerced into funding her existence: that really would be unbearable!
Oh I agree wholeheartedly, and I’m Royalist to the very marrow. I’m generally trying to avoid any media coverage of this now. I did catch some bits on 5Live last night, some Beeboid comparing the scenes outside the Palace not, as you might imagine, to last year’s Jubilee celebrations (it being, y’know, a Royal occasion an’ all), but of course to the sodding Olympics.
Earlier I’d been listening to Analysis on R4, about the morality of tax avoidance, and it was surprisingly balanced.
I don`t Alex!
They`re as cringing in this case , as they are nasty to the Queen when they edit her filming to make her look bad.
The BBC-like any other Squeers-like toady-is always either at your feet(if you`re weaing Arthur Scargills slippers)…or at your throat( if you dare to speak up for a dead granny who once used to be our Prime Minister).
Sheer binary -bile or balloons-but always never less than bollocks!
Really blatant pro-Labour/pro-union bias in BBC’s report on Lord Ashcroft’s poll of Unite members. Instead of first explaining what the poll says, and then recording Unite’s reaction, it LEADS on Unite’s dismissal of the poll. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23416896. Interestingly, the left-wing New Statesman is much more positive about the poll http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2013/07/boost-miliband-poll-shows-170000-unite-members-would-opt-join-labour
what do you expect from the BBC, its just the NUJ supporting their union comrads at Unite
“Really blatant pro-Labour/pro-union bias in BBC’s report on Lord Ashcroft’s poll of Unite members.”
Exactly which parts of the BBC report are evidence of “blatant pro-Labour/pro-union bias”?
Why is it evidence of bias that Unite were asked to comment on a poll of their members?
What would your view have been if the BBC had opted for a headline similar to that of the New Statesman?
“Boost for Miliband: poll shows 170,000 Unite members would opt-in to join Labour “
The fact that it LEADS on Unite’s dismissal before explaining what the poll says. I would expect good journalism to begin with a factual explanation and then only then go on to record any criticisms.
You don’t understand modern journalismn as practised by the BBC
What is in the Guardian?
Broadcast it without checking
What did Stepehn Fry (or other leftie luvvie) say on Twitter?
Publish that as confirmation
Indeed, clearly not!
remind me. Albania Man, the Daily Telegraph, is that publicly funded?
(sniggers) Even ‘arguably’.
I assume that you are unable or unwilling to address any of the points raised above.
Why when asked for evidence do you and so many of the bBBC regulars resort to personal attacks?
What, you mean a bit like this one?:
“Guess we had better ban stockings as well. And what about those balaclavas favoured by the EDL George? ”
By you, on this very thread.
On a subject, if I am not too mistaken, that you got your balls rolled on, and scuttled off, tail between your legs, refusing to acknowledge you were wrong.
Where is the personal attack?
Merely raised a question for George to answer.
I believe pilchards are very reasonable in price around this time of year.
I’d say accusing (rightly or wrongly) George of being associated with the EDL is a personal attack.
No answer to the point that you got your balls rolled on the subject?…because you did.
What ‘personal attacks’ Albaman? Chapter and verse, if you don’t mind…
For BBC-Democrat:-
“Black George Zimmermans, white Trayvon Martins and the Civil Rights hypocrites”
http://archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/black-george-zimmermans-white-trayvon.html
Why when asked for evidence do you and so many of the bBBC regulars resort to personal attacks?
Albania Man
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Hey, fella, don’t confuse highlighting someone’s rank stupidity with ‘personal attacks’.
I don’t need to – you manage all by yourself.
al bbc royal baby name …
trayvon mandela burkha mohamhead obama …
or words to that effect …
someone mentioned “toby” … fairly innocuous eh!
until you realise it was “kunta kinte”s slave name …
OOOER! yep! the perils of baby naming …
Kayden? spouts the bbc sheesh! … how about Ky?
hopefully mumsnet will be advising the bbc along with the muslim council of britain so the correct narrative is prescribed. check this out – at 1 min 25
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23416163
Saint Bob Geldof called his kids ” Peaches, Pixie, Heavenly Hiraani and Fifi Trixiebelle ”
Gywneth Paltrow called her baby ” Apple.”
I think a nice name would be’ Water Melon’ or ‘Tooth Pick’ or how about ‘ Diversity’ ?
don t suppose Dodi will be popular? 😀
its a boy so … why no bets on Adolf?
keep to christian names … unless its Judas of course
but Arthur would be just … perfick!
Sadly the name ‘Adolf’ which I kind of like, it means noble wolf, has gone out of fashion , I don’t know why ? can’t fathom it.
David Beckham called one of his kids after a down market, slum neighbourhood ‘ Brooklyn ‘, then there was ‘Romeo’, ‘Cruz’ and then ‘Harper’ after a character from ‘To Kill a Mocking Bird’.
Following Posh and Becks gift of naming kids, may I suggest ‘Tower Hamlets ‘, it sounds like a regal name.
Famous Adolfs
Adolph Sax, Belgian, inventor of the saxaphone.
Adolphe Menjou, actor in the 1930s, 40, and 50s, his most famous role was playing a duplicitious French general in Stanley Kubrick’s film ‘Paths of Glory , nice moustache too.
I wonder how much coverage the Beeb will give this: Paul Gambaccini: The BBC marked me out for being gay.
Paedophilia? Yeah, whatever, everyone’s doing it, it’s the 1970s, you know. Gay? Ew!
How times have changed!
The military wing of Hamas joins the BBC in eulogising the dreadful Helen Thomas :
http://www.qassam.ps/news-7261-Pioneer_journalist_Helen_Thomas_dies_at_92.html
(While I am posting – can I apologise for my earlier mix-up about Jim “Bones” Mackay – the BBC clips I had seen made me think he was black. Obviously just the sun on endless golf courses. Mea culpa :
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/golf/23399138
PM this evening talking about the new Prince
The common market talks about everyone being equal, but this little baby will be ………………
They just can’t leave it alone, even in the joy going around the world the BBC has to stick it’s left wing poison into it.
Endless crap about the ‘bomb’ left at the Tipton Mosque, without mention that it was left so far away no one was hurt of even knew it had gone off.
Loads of interviews about the ‘vulnerable victims’ the local Muslims and complaints about how the Police aren’t mounting a 24/7 guard on the Mosque and each individual.
I wonder when the BBC will get around to interviewing members of the armed forces to see how they feel following the murder of Lee Rigby, in the knowledge that there have been similar threats to kill more. I won’t be holding my breath for that one.
I thought Tipton was the village in Trumpton?
Yes, lots of coverage of Muslim ‘communities’ cowering in fear on BBC news these days but no follow up on, say, the need for increased security around army barracks. It could even overshadow their own eviltorycutz theme if they’re not careful.
It’s a topic to discuss with those Muslim chaps you typically see laughing and joshing in your local. Oh, hang on……
SKY’s Kay Burley is outside the hospital, no deserves that.
Correction, no one deserves that.
How the bBC loves to Promote Pakistan every chance it gets:
‘Oldest woman’ in the World dies aged 115
A woman believed to be the world’s oldest person has died at the age of 115 years and 199 days..Sant Kaur Bajwa, from Southall, west London, was born on 1 January 1898 in Pakistan, according to her passport.
Born in 1898 in Pakistan was she bBC? Which is strange as Pakistan didn’t exist before 1947.
Born in British India.
So we have a terrorist charged with murder and planting bombs, and look how quiet the blog of bias is on the matter.
Could it be that the murderer(Or killer as you prefer) is a white Christian who hacked a harmless old man top death? Or tried to blow up families at prayer. Surely not. Surely this blog is the preserve of racists and bigots?
It surely is. There are a lot of posts here blaming muslims for this man’s indicted crimes. Or saying that the bombs were not powerful (David Preisser, hang your head in utter shame).
Lack of condemnations shows your tacit support for this man’s alleged actions. You are on the same level as Choudray!
Please, enlighten us with the actual proof that:
A: He is GUILTY of murder
B: He is GUILTY of planting bombs at a Mosque
C: Is a white Christian.
If I cannot describe Michael Adebolajo and Michael Adebowale as murderers, even thought they admitted it, and were covered in blood of Lee Rigby, AND were shot and arrested at the scene, then you, cannot make the same sort of accusations.
Oh, one other “minor” detail you might have missed…
I can’t recall hearing “Praise Jesus” when the alleged crimes you mention took place…It was not done in the name of Christianity…Unless, of course, you can prove otherwise?
I wasn’t aware that the BBC is downplaying/excusing that crime Tommy. If it is please draw attention it, because this blog is about the bias of the BBC. As I understand it the accused is Ukrainian so that is not going to be much use for the anti-English narrative of the BBC. You are obviously trying your best though, maybe you could give the BBC a few tips.
I expect, IF, the man is found guilty, then the BBC will invite hundreds of apologetic priests & Ukrainians into the studio for a cozy chit chat to explain how it’s not all white Christian folk who do this, just a minority…
No, actually, I don’t…I suspect they will speed dial a few of their ROP buddies, who can all sit round and claim that somehow, the EDL were behind it all along.
Alllluah Akkabar, an all that shit.
No, the really funny thing about this Tommy is the BBC’s sleight of hand with these stories when they first break, craftily inserting ‘the far right’ or ‘the EDL’ at suitable points without explicitly laying the blame, their high-handed dedication to moral equivalence making them all giddy. Remember how quick the BBC were to paint their own far-right identikit of the Toulouse killer? And then we discover it’s not the far right, it’s not actually anyone English or British – it’s someone who qualifies to be part of our muliticultural society you are always quick to promote, another immigrant group you would be quick to defend (Eastern Europeans). But then you put your own spin on it to eliminate the multicultural element: ‘white Christian’. Very sly, so very BBC…..
BBC still putting a negative spin on the royal baby,its a disgrace our national broadcaster too.
the Queen should revoke the royal charter for the BBC.
Give it up Nicked Emus. Why don’t you do something useful with your life and knit the new baby some booties?
On the News at 6 today there was an item about who was to feature on ‘our’ £10 note, which showed a very English bias as there was no mention of the fact that Scotland and Northern Ireland have different banknotes. I’m English and live in England but am familiar with using Scottish notes when I visit Scotland and although English notes are accepted throughout the UK, anyone who has ever travelled there will know that the vast majority of notes used are Scottish not English. Also whenever they have a report about the economy or finances (which is most days!) they always show background graphics featuring only Bank of England notes.