H/T to Chris for linking to this from the Mail:
How the BBC buried the story: MI5 attack on Left-wing paper’s leaks played down
- BBC downplays MI5 chief’s scathing condemnation of The Guardian
- Newsnight editor is former Guardian executive Ian Katz
- ‘They appear to be protecting Left-wing friends’ – Tory MP
The BBC were certainly looking at it throughout today…Though Humphrys (08:10) looked to have finally come down on the side of the Guardian I felt…’and that’s the point…we didn’t know about it until we read it in the Guardian’….and just re-listened….the Guardian’s Henry Porter says it isn’t the Guardian’s fault…it’s the fault of the NSA for having ‘leaked’ the information.
Rusbridger, interviewed on World at One gave a laughable excuse (another one) and was allowed to get away with brushing aside Andrew Parker’s assessment……It causes enormous damage to make public the reach and limits of GCHQ techniques. Such information hands the advantage to the terrorists. It is the gift they need to evade us and strike at will. Unfashionable as it might seem, that is why we must keep secrets secret, and why not doing so causes such harm.
He claimed he was justified in publishing such damaging material because…well, it might be OK for the security services to be gathering so much data now in a democracy…but…if Robert Mugabe were to take over…..
He was claiming that in future these techniques might be abused should we somehow become a dictatorship and Britain turn into a police state.
The logic fails for me on that one…if we turn into a police state what the Guardian thinks will be irrelevant…more so than now….can’t see a British Stasi asking Rusbridger’s permission to carry out surveillance…..and such techniques, with proper oversight…would work to prevent such an eventuality.
He also dodged the main accusation that he has allowed terrorists to analyse the security service’s techniques and technology and thereby adapt their own tactics to avoid detection.
So let’s be clear…Rusbridger admits that there is no abuse now. The threat is one for a future scenario where we have become a police state.
On the basis of that crystal ball gazing he publishes information that is highly damaging to national interests and aids terrorists putting the public at risk.
The Mail publishes a claim that Marxists are a danger to Britain and the Left goes ballistic, the Guardian publishes information that helps terrorists…..and the BBC is smoothing things over.
Ian Katz is on track to be the Woodward/Bernstein of his generation. He is celebrated on film in The Fifth Estate and is played by ex-Downton Abbey heartthrob Dan Stevens…my, how these people look after their own.
Did you see my comment on this yesterday (early morning UK time) under the ‘Tommy – for you…? Just boasting!
Of course he did! Only the favoured few get hat-tipped. 😉
Da iawn prang wizard
That’s a ‘ well done’ in welsh sir.
‘The threat is one for a future scenario where we have become a police state’
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….where state control of the media is total. Now, which two media are working with the democratically elected #HackedOff in a lobby now to bring this about, with them as approved mouthpieces?
The only glimmer of hope is the apparent key role of Mr. Muppet in all this, as his efforts to sway the public, from Operation Clark County to Jezza of the Rainforest, seem to have failed to engage the public in much other than mockery.
As to his ‘views the BBC’s’ twitter feed, it’s hard to imagine a set of toddlers on Ritalin couldn’t be more coherent. And these people are seeking to represe… rule the most powerful broadcast source of policy influence in the land?
Unique.
The one comment which both amazes and scares me seems to have been missed by almost everyone – in my belief deliberately at the BBC.
Said by Andrew Parker – Thousands of Islamist extremists in the UK see the British public as a legitimate target for attacks.
Surprisingly covered on the BBC news web site, but not on mainstream media. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24454596
If this is the case, and we have to assume that it is, then why is the government still allowing free & easy migration from Muslim countries, and why are so called hate preachers still being allowed to travel to the UK?
The question – unsurprisingly has not been asked.
In all the pathetic diversity and equality, taught is schools, often Gay issues are not discussed at all in Muslim areas because it might upset them ! It truly is jaw dropping that the hypocritical self loathing left can allow one of their ‘isms’ to go unchecked simply because the children are top of the hierarchy of isms.
So there’s no chance of Muslims being taught in school that it is wrong to attack the people of this country, because they might get upset about it.
This is a country which might as well be banging its head against the wall rather than actively doing something about a known problem.
Lefty top trumps – Islam is the unbeatable
At the end of the article in the link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24454596
is this
Are you a British Muslim? What is your reaction to this story? What’s your experience of the issues raised? Please send us your comments using the form below.
The BBC don’t care what the British feel, only what Muslims feel. Are Muslim feelings hurt? Do they fell discriminated against? Have any hijabs been tugged?
The BBC don’t care what we feel about all our emails being monitored because of the huge Muslim presence in the UK, that has been wantonly allowed in. The BBC don’t care if we have to go through humiliating security procedures at UK airports. Nope! Their only care is for Muslim feelings.
FoI exempted from ever being explained of course, but this raises many questions.
Who thought this a necessary inclusion to the story?
Who will vet the input solicited, for veracity and relevance?
Who will then edit what gets used and where and when will this be?
It seems like the BBC licence is actually one that essentially ensures propaganda complemented by censorship at every stage.
And as this form seems to guarantee a follow-up story, presumably the Flokkers on Islam-reference check duty will concede the BBC does seem just a bit obsessed with a singular niche area of limited interest to a very small section of society.
Albeit one that appears to be packing out the floral 8,000 being hired to fill the ‘reporting’ cubicles to an ever-expanding glass house.
“… why is the government still allowing free & easy migration from Muslim countries, and why are so called hate preachers still being allowed to travel to the UK?”
Obviously they are here to enrich British Society, and those bits which they fail to enrich they will encourage their followers to blow up !!!! Innit?
They are obviously very beneficial to the country because Tony Blair let them in and now he is worth £60 Million.
“Glenn Greenwald, who reported on NSA surveillance leaks, to address banquet of Hamas-linked CAIR”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/10/glenn-greenwald-who-reported-on-nsa-surveillance-leaks-to-address-banquet-of-hamas-linked-cair.html
“Why all this country’s enemies will be grateful for the schoolboy vanity of the Guardian”,
says DOUGLAS MURRAY.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2451544/Why-countrys-enemies-grateful-schoolboy-vanity-Guardian-says-DOUGLAS-MURRAY.html
“Mac on… The Guardian exposing Britain’s security secrets”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2451591/Mac–The-Guardian-exposing-Britains-security-secrets.html
I used to be an avid watcher of Newsnight – no more. Ian Katz has totally destroyed the integrity of the programme and it has now become a vehicle for guardianistas. Last night I happened upon the last twenty minutes when I was treated to ex Labour Minister Parnell prattling on about why the BBC is so great. Yes it is, Mr Parnell, when you can swap one well paid job for another with such ease. Nepotism does not even come close to describe the unfolding disaster which even the D-G is waking up to.
Newsnight has been left wing for a lot longer than Katz has been at the BBC; it’s just that now they don’t bother to try and hide it.
Did you see the one the other night about shoes…Emily Maitless sent along to talk to some woman who sold Jimmy Choos?
No…neither did I.
But it tells you all that you need to know about the lingering death of the BBC.
Must have been Katz’s influence. His wife runs Mumsnet, the website for posh silly bitches from Islington.
Dear Mr Rusbridger,
Why on earth is your loss making, tax avoiding, marxist supporting, traitorous employing socialist rag attempting to undermine the modus operandi of our Security Services who give you the freedom to operate.
Please support my country and go forth and repent.
Yours most insincerely,
The Majority of British Citizens
“The Mail publishes a claim that Marxists are a danger to Britain and the Left goes ballistic, the Guardian publishes information that helps terrorists…..and the BBC is smoothing things over”
Nothing else needs to be said really. It is beyond disgraceful and shows how the left couldn’t actually care less about who they are supposed to represent (ie the little people) and only cares about its own political ends. But then most hard left are middle class anyway
The working people of England are not hard left and never have been. It is a middle class indulgence bought about by wishy washy parenting, a sense of entitlement, real aversion to hard physical labour and a believe that if God exists then they are his chosen people. their . The Guardian editor and Hacked Off spokesmen typify the breed. I have met this type along the way and I would rather spend a day in the company of a squirrel than five minutes of theirs.
A complete financial collapse will end their dominance which is why I am ambivalent about such a thing.
Modern liberalism in all it’s absurdity will not survive reality for one day.
It is not liberalism it is feudalism.
Their nihilism is atavistic not progressive
Its an ersatz religion that has evolved in the mind of the indolent patrician class. To fill the transcendental void left by their rejection of Christianity and the failure of Marxism (horizontal transcendence)
Like the ROP its cobbled together from misunderstood fragments of other, often contradictory, faiths (Human equality and Darwinism for instance) And its followers, like those of the ROP, are impervious to reason and blind to their own hypocrisy’s
The best model for it ,I believe, is the medieval inquisition (which is why it displays both feudalist and nihilist tendencies ) which talked of love while it enforced ,through fear, a supranational orthodoxy . (are you listening Gomez)
My experience is that the working people of England are of the left but it is the wrong kind of left.
Which is why the liberal inquisition expend so much energy ,via their pulpit the BBC , stamping down on heresy’s like patriotism
Pat Condell nailed the New Ruling Class:
“White middle class left-wing pricks”
Yes Tony, Gordon, Milliband….. you.
You can add ‘ call me Dave’ to that list, he’s just as bad.
could not agree more bbc are cowards and completely shun any introspective news regarding their laughabley unbiased news and current affairs dept,totally unable to put themselves under genuine scrutiny…
The only positive thing to emerge from this is the raising in public awareness of the traitors in our midst, the Britain-haters on the Left, including BBC/Guardian.
The BBC reminds me of that scene in Annie Hall where they are sorting out their belongings after they have split up. Annie Hall picks up a box of badges. ‘Impeach Eisenhower’, ‘Impeach Nixon’, ‘Impeach Ronald Reagan”. So with the BBC. “Attack Murdoch” “Attack the Daily Mail” “Attack the Barclay Brothers” Where are the “Attack the Guardian” “Attack the Independent” and “Attack the New Statesman” badges? What do you mean you do mean you don’t have any?
Of course a free press should be able to print whatever they like even if it drives a coach and horses through the country’s security. But the Guardian and the BBC would draw the line at anyone who said something unpleasant , though probably true, about a dead Marxist, they think that the press certainly shouldn’t be allowed to do that A dead fascist would be fair game of course and live ones should be shot on sight.
Even the left must see that their stance is so contradictory as to be laughable.
They really don’t.
Double think is correct.
The Guardian and BBC are still in cohorts aiding, abetting and covering up the most atrocious damaging Government this country has ever had in democratic times and especially since our magnificent proud nations inhabitants let their natural chivalrous guard down in 1997.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/seanthomas/100240679/exclusive-labour-1997-2010-was-the-worst-government-ever-and-this-is-why/
In hindsight, I believe, never did the majority of us think our democracy could be so blatantly badly abused in all Ministries of State with such inefficiently, hypocrisy, spin and lies.
Our grandchildren will still be paying off their gigantic debts they left us and apologising to the world for their most heinous sins like Iraq and Afghanistan plus many other countries still correcting the repercussions of our lack of control of the City of London financial practices under Labour watch.
They drove a coach and horses through our proud Nations world reputation to conduct ourselves in a most fair, chivalrous and democratic way hitherto practiced, undermining us to a point where we will probably never recover our true, inherited, proud national identity:
We need a revolution. No! No! I’m not a raving Marxist. The revolution I want is to redress the grave injustice which the people of England are having to endure. There will be no renaissance, particularly cultural, until England gets its own parliament, (and I would say, is eventually independent of both Unions the EU and the UK). We do have an awful lot of liberal lefties but there are more who aren’t who are crying out for people to represent them as English and in England, and to get rid of the British Elites, this includes the Red Eds and of course the BBC who collectively are the enemies of England.
My apologies to the Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish friends of these pages but at least your nations are recognised, England is not. And remember, the English are not the British even though many are still a bit confused about their identity. It’s getting better though.
Look at fruit or other produce in the supermarket, the stuff not coming form abroad is almost invariably marked “Scottish”, “Welsh” or “British”. The last one applies to the counties East from Wales and South from Scotland.
Why do you not say who Rusbridger is? I had to go to the Mail to find out since I do not read crappy British publications except when they are free online.
You accuse others of bad journalism! The first rule is to Identify your subject.
Also I notice hundreds of people still pontificating on your open thread and by comparison paying little heed to the other stuff, some of which actually deals with bias.
Sorry Elf. All my fault. I will think about what you said next time I post something, so people do not have to go searching. The bias you mention requires lateral thinking and connecting with other comments on the site.
And the Flokkers head below the briny now.
Another irony-bereft ‘you’ boat whose full spread has done a 180. Good value.
But clearly a full refund should satisfy him and send him ‘n Safely on their way.
Excellent ‘Daily Mail’ editorial on ‘Guardian,’ BBC and National Security-
“The paper that helps Britain’s enemies”
[Excerpts]:-
“So isn’t it staggering that the BBC, after spending all last week trumpeting Ed Miliband’s attack on this paper [‘Daily Mail’] over our charge that his father’s Marxist views validated one of the most evil regimes in history, could hardly bring itself for much of yesterday to report Mr Parker’s devastating indictment of the Guardian?
“The problem, and it’s worse under the new director general, is that a wall of prejudice surrounds Broadcasting House – a belief that the Right merits relentless attack, while the BBC’s soulmates on the liberal Left must always be protected.”
[…]
“Yet, almost as astonishing as the BBC’s reticence, the editor of the Guardian now says he will continue to release the material, arguing that he will take care to publish nothing that endangers lives.
“But how, in the name of sanity, can he know? He’s a journalist, not an expert on security.”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2451557/Daily-Mail-Comment-The-Guardian-paper-helps-Britains-enemies.html
A couple of times in the past, Greenpeace and left wing anti-Semites have been acquited of vandalising GM crops and an arms factory that supplied weapons to Israel on a public interest defence. In light of Mr Alan Rusbridger’s declared intention to continue leaking classified British intelligence reports and putting the lives of British subjects in widespread danger from Islamic terrorists, would there not be a public interest defence in executing him for Treason?
Personally, I think the political response has been pretty lame in view of the gravity of his Treason. One supposes Treason charges are not brought because the calibre of today’s Court system just isn’t up to it and crucial information for the defence of the Realm would come out in trial.
Under these circumstances, if I judge them correctly, I believe there was a day when our security services found ‘creative solutions’ in defence of the Realm.
Alan Rusbridger, Greenwald et al, with the complicity of the BBC, are left wing subversives making common cause with the Islamic totalitarians to destroy our democracy. That is why Greenwald is due to give a speech to Hamas front organisation CAIR. The top secret surveillance measures they are exposing are to protect our democracy from totalitarian creeps like them and there terrorist mates in the Muslim world.
What does a homosexual pornographer like Greenwald have in common with an Islamist front like CAIR?: Hatred of Jews and Christianity.
It’s way, way past time we got serious about defending our democracy.
Graeme Thompson
The first law that Liebore repealed 1997 was the death sentence for treason.
For obvious reasons of course.
On Morning Reports this morning the newspaper review failed to mention the Mails headline about this, how strange.
They have lots of form on that one.
I well remember the papers being reviewed on the sunday morning that the Savile story hit the headlines on one paper, mirror i think.
And whadda ya know? It was nowhere to be seen, a kind of head in sand and it will go away attitude.
Knobs.
Only the BBC could possibly think that we would rather trust the likes of Rusbridger with our security, than those who are paid to do so…and with a few more years of experience in the field that dilettantes and posturing creeps like Alan and his magic piano.
The worst thing that the security services did was to suck up to Blair. We can no longer trust them-but at least they`ll not sell us over to Islam, the EU or any lefty gloop like a Chavez or Obama.
The Guardian are busily doing just that.
About time the spooks of the country ensured internment for all our lefty traitors…the Guardian, the BBC and the LSE/Oxbridge will be fertile ground-as they always have been.
Clear them out-send them to Moscow or Peking(OMG!)-and let THEM deal with these quisling invertebrates for the rest of us.
Might get our country back then-and a few less dead soldiers.
If Putin takes up our offer within 28 days…why, give him Assange by way of a free gift too.
‘Times’ (£) snippet-
“Snowden leaks ‘eclipse the Cambridge spy ring’”
Sean O’Neill, Security Editor.
[Opening excerpt]-
“The theft and leak of tens of thousands of “top secret” files by the former CIA employee Edward Snowden eclipses the Cambridge spy ring as the most catastrophic loss suffered by British intelligence, one of Whitehall’s senior security experts said yesterday. Sir David Omand, the former head of GCHQ and homeland security adviser to No 10, revealed that British officials assumed the material taken by Mr Snowden was being analysed by Russian and Chinese spy agencies. MI5 believes it has evidence that the Snowden leaks have already caused real harm to operations against terrorist groups and that further damage will occur as the secret information is more widely disseminated.”
“Calls grow to prosecute Guardian over spy leaks: Now Clegg and May join condemnation of paper.
“Many high-profile figures have condemned Guardian’s spy leak coverage.
“MP Julian Smith branded the newspaper’s actions ‘illegal’.”
By JAMES SLACK.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2453374/Calls-grow-prosecute-Guardian-spy-leaks-Now-Clegg-May-join-condemnation.html
‘Guardian’ priorities:
-Selling papers, or selling out British people?
‘London Evening Standard’:-
“In the air: Guardian board heads to New York”
“In a surprise step, Guardian Media Group is holding its latest board meeting in New York this week — presumably at quite some expense.
“The London newspaper group is increasingly looking overseas for growth, especially in America, where it has caused a major stir with its explosive revelations by former National Security Agency adviser Edward Snowden.
“Those close to GMG say the board wanted to get a first-hand look at the paper’s US operation, which overtook UK digital traffic in June. The board meeting is also timed for the big Advertising Week conference taking place in New York. The Guardian, which made an operating loss of £31 million in the year to March, needs to woo US media agencies to advertise on its website which has no internet paywall.”
http://www.standard.co.uk/business/media/in-the-air-guardian-board-heads-to-new-york-8839164.html
“Guardian CEO Andrew Miller voices fears that the paper won’t survive in the UK and must go global.”
http://www.thedrum.com/news/2013/10/04/guardian-ceo-andrew-miller-voices-fears-paper-wont-survive-uk-and-must-go-global#fompfdwewgQgdyjm.99
Is the Guardian after ‘leftist’ billionaire financier SOROS’s money?
A marriage made in hell if ever their was one, but a credible scenario.
‘Is the Guardian after ‘leftist’ billionaire financier SOROS’s money?’
Given how such support has been framed in the past, if this came to pass any reaction from others, their sudden silence, or sudden dissembling in justification, will be ironic.
Political update for Islam Not BBC (INBBC):-
“Terrorism is ‘no longer over there, it’s here'”
http://www.itv.com/news/update/2013-10-09/expert-terrorism-is-now-homegrown/
How many people buy the Guardian apart from the BBC, public sector or libraries.
“BBC bias exposed as newspaper purchases reveals continued Guardian bias.
“For the second year running the BBC has been shown to disproportionately favour the Left-wing Guardian newspaper.”
http://www.thecommentator.com/article/3458/exclusive_bbc_bias_exposed_as_newspaper_purchases_reveals_continued_guardian_bias
From order-order comments
Daily Mail 1,863,151
Telegraph 555,817
Express 529,648
Times 399,339
Guardian 204,440 < HaHaHa
http://order-order.com/2013/10/11/guardians-bid-for-smear-of-the-year/
Or, to put this another way:
Every year they buy around 160,000 copies of left-leaning daily newspapers.
And every year they buy around 310,000 copies of right-leaning daily newspapers.
Shocking!
How about some ‘proportionality’, then, in the BBC’s purchasing of newspapers, depending on their readership – after all, isn’t the BBC supposed to appeal to the broad spectrum of British People, and not disproportionally to those on the Left ?
Strange that, ‘Proportionality’ is such a big thing for the BBC when it comes to certain countries trying to defend themselves.
So they should buy ten times as many copies of the Sun as of any broadsheet? Yeah, that would work in a serious news organisation. Also, the buying habits of the public bears no relationship to its political leanings, c.f. every poll since time began.
Dunno where you get your numbers from CTC, but they’re probably just made up, as are so many of the ‘facts’ presented by the Left.
ABC circulation figures from earlier this year show The Sun with 4 times as many print readers as the Guardian, and around 2.5 times as manyprint/web readers as the Guardian – similarly with the Mail. The BBC favours specific newspapers above others despite their readershp levels, and like the rest of the established Left, thinks that democracy/proportionality is only applicable when it’s in their favour…… viz the CAGW argument – 28-gate, etc.
But don’t let actual numbers get in the way of a ranting, but factually incorrect, argument.
The Sun – 2.2 million
The Guardian – 187,000
Source: ABC June 2013
So you’re wrong and I’m right.
The BBC buys twice as many right leaning papers as left leaning papers at a time when half of the population, at most, votes for a right leaning party. I’m one of them, before you start taking that line of attack. But I can’t bear dishonesty and your post is stupid and dishonest beyond belief.
What Newspaper Do You Think the BBC Mostly Procures?
We cannot reasonably expect somebody who runs one of the least read and most moribund sites on the Web to get the point, understand when he is wrong, or understand that the data above merely proves my point.
The only thing you’ve proved is the stupidity of posting after you’ve been down the pub
Come back to it tomorrow and you’ll see what as you’ve been – again
Said with affection you understand
‘We’ again presumably being Royal in inclusivity, if ending more honestly, and accurately in a singular obsession?
But looking at the pinhead being displayed, not a single angel to count, though that has not been much of a constraint.
Typical left wing moron, thinks that by using insults he’s going to win the argument. For sure you won’t do it with logic and avoiding the facts being shown, while just repeating your bullshit, so I can understand why you resort to the tactic you do.
The ‘data above’ shows:
The Guardian tops the list with 59,829 bought between April 1st, 2010 and February 28th, 2011. In addition to this, “Auntie” bought 43,709 copies of the struggling Independent. This compares to 48,968 copies of the Telegraph and 45,553 copies of the Daily Mail.
It’s worth noting that not only did The Guardian emerge comfortably out on top with over 10,000 copies difference between itself and the Daily Mail, but, considering the national circulation of these newspapers (right), the BBC has a heavily disproportionate number of Guardian readers among its rank and file.
The Guardian has a circulation of 230,541 per day compared to the Daily Telegraph’s 634,113 and the Daily Mail with 1.7 million. Meanwhile, the Independent is lagging on a rather sorry-looking 90,001.
If you’re too lazy to do the basic mathematics, allow us: that means that two of Britain’s most popular right of centre newspapers combined have a circulation of some 2.3 million compared to The Indie and The Guardian which weigh in at just over 320,000.
Odd then, that despite besting their axis of left-wing rivals by seven times in the national market, the BBC procures almost 10,000 less copies of the Mail and Telegraph in the period displayed.
Need help understanding it?
Perhaps former BBC man Peter Sissons can help you, as he wrote in his book ‘When one door closes.’
‘For 20 years I was a front man at the BBC, anchoring news and current
affairs programmes, so I reckon nobody is better placed than me to answer the question that nags at many of its viewers — is the BBC biased?
In my view, ‘bias’ is too blunt a word to describe the subtleties of the
pervading culture. The better word is a ‘mindset’. At the core of the BBC, in
its very DNA, is a way of thinking that is firmly of the Left.
By far the most popular and widely read newspapers at the BBC are The
Guardian and The Independent. Producers refer to them routinely for the line to take on running stories, and for inspiration on which items to cover. In the later stages of my career, I lost count of the number of times I asked a producer for a brief on a story, only to be handed a copy of The Guardian and told ‘it’s all in there’.
Get it idiot?
You sure you want to keep showing yourself up?
I saw a scruffy woman dressed like a small child pick up a copy of the Guardian once, I then either picked up a copy of the Express because it supports UKIP but does not have the content of the Mail, or picked up a copy of the Mail, even though I am deterred by the Mail’s deluded thinking that David Cameron can change from an upper class twit into something less socialist, by saying something that pleases Tory public relations advisers and therefore the Daily Mail editorial team.
And now the idiot corporation leads on its ‘news’ (sic) website with “Guardian performed ‘public service'” quoting their preferred house-loon Vince Cable.
In the past year the BBC seems to have become increasingly determined to prove this site right. Shamelessly so, you might say.
The BBC got some splendid comments from Jack Straw but do not appear to be making much of them on their website. But from the Telegraph
Jack Straw said that the paper had shown an almost “adolescent excitement” about having the material and suggested that the secrets had “gone to their head”.
His intervention represents the first time a former Labour minister has intervened in the row and comes after the head of MI5 warned that the leaks were a “gift” to terrorists.
Mr Straw told BBC News: “I’m not suggesting for a moment anybody in the Guardian gratuitously wants to risk anybody’s life, but what I do think is that their sense of power of having these secrets and excitement – almost adolescent excitement – about these secrets has gone to their head.
“They’re blinding themselves about the consequence and also showing an extraordinary naïveté and arrogance in implying that they are in a position to judge whether or not particular secrets are not likely to damage the national interest. They’re not in any position at all to do that.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/10372603/Jack-Straw-Guardian-has-shown-extraordinary-naivete-and-arrogance-in-leaks.html
Jack Straw, the Labour Party, and adolescent excitement for Islamic mass immigration into U.K is another story.