225 Responses to MID WEEK OPEN THREAD…

  1. Ian Hills says:

    From Steve Rosenberg, BBC Moscow on the latest Left-wing version of the Bullingdon Club Greenpeace atrocity –

    “The Russian authorities may be calculating that “hooliganism” is a more credible indictment than “piracy”, making it easier for Moscow to argue to the world that Greenpeace committed a crime.”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24645300

    Well they did, didn’t they?

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    • Dave s says:

      Greenpeace being a liberal outfit can claim that ideology has precedence over law. That is the way liberals operate. Law has no meaning unless it is sanctioned by ideology. In the liberal’s case the fantasy ideology currently destroying the West.
      The liberal will argue that Russia not accepting this just shows how backward and non progressive the Russian state is and how it must be bought into line with the failing states of Western Europe.
      Pure rubbish of course and it is going to be interesting.

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  2. George R says:

    Grangemouth-Falkirk-Labour Party-‘Unite’ trade union.

    Note how reluctant BBC-NUJ is to make this political link:-
    ‘Daily Mail'[ (2 weeks ago)-

    [Excerpt]-
    “But before those negotiations can even begin, the future of Grangemouth has been held up by a dispute more political than it is financial.

    “It concerns Stephen Deans, the Unite union convenor who was accused of signing up union members to the Labour Party in Falkirk without their knowledge. While Deans has been cleared by the police and Labour, Ineos is still investigating whether he misused company facilities.

    “Unite members have rallied in support of Deans, beginning an industrial action that leaves the future of Grangemouth very much in limbo.”

    -from-
    “Bitter stand-off at Grangemouth: Union officials head into crunch talks with Ineos in a fiendishly intricate game of poker”
    By ROB DAVIES.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/news/article-2449409/Bitter-stand-Grangemouth-Union-officials-head-crunch-talks-Ineos.html

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    • George R says:

      “Whose fault is the Grangemouth closure?”
      By Euan McColm.

      http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2013/10/whose-fault-is-the-grangemouth-closure/

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    • Guest Who says:

      From Greenpeace Russian exchange students to barrier-manning pickets here, there appears a wee disconnect between what is and what they have been told and/or how they find reality pans out. All ably reflected in BBC ‘reporting’, no doubt. Lucky Aunty’s finest can of course be assured of an index-linked future no matter what.

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    • richard D says:

      And before I head off to bed, is it possible that even Unite has at last been forced to come to it’s senses ? An article in the Herald (can’t see any corroboration elsewhere yet) reads…

      “Unite is said to be willing to accept the changes put forward by the site’s owners Ineos in the bitter dispute at the petro-chemical refinery, which has led to the shock announcement of the plant’s closure. Ineos announced the closure after Monday’s rejection by the workforce of the new terms.”

      This seems to be piggy-backed onto an earlier report, so it’s not easy to see what really has happened. However, from what I heard on TV earlier today somewhere, Ineos had taken their offer off the table…so it may not be as simple as Unite would like to believe.

      http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/salmond-looks-to-china-for-new-refinery-owner.22496211

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  3. Pounce says:

    So I am reading the bBC article on their fav brand of Islamic terrorists ‘ al Shabbab ‘ and all I see is a propaganda spot for Muslims who wish to live under the codex of the unholy Koran rather than the rule of law found in the Uk.

    So we hear about how Muslims in the UK are sick of British foreign policy, about how Muslims feel that becoming even more religious is a good thing, how a follower of a pedophilic warlord died in Somalia fighting the good fight, and that human rights group rapreive acting for the dead terrorists family are demanding to know if he died at the hands of the British military, no doubt looking for a pay out in which to fund more Muslims to go looking for a wife,computer course or ecpven cure their drug habit. The thing is the bbc doesn’t mention once that Muslim terrorist who had his British passport taken off of him because he buggered off to Somalia after been told not to go. You know that prick now in a US prison whose family ( aided by the bBC) are not only demanding that he be given His British citizenship back , but that he was a good boy who went to look fter his grandmother.

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    • George R says:

      Yes, virtually all Muslims, including Islamic jihadists, receiving preferential treatment, are treated as ‘victims’, by INBBC.

      INBBC seems to reserve its worst treatment for OPPONENTS of Islamic jihad and Islamic supremacism.

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    • Milverton says:

      The thought that the British Army might have got that little shit cheered up my evening no end.

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    • lynette says:

      heard this report on the BBC World service – unbelievble that a main reason for someone becoming radicilised can be explained as the result of “western foreign policy”

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      • uncle bup says:

        yep – west not allowed to top muzzies. Only we muzzies are allowed to do that. And don’t we just.

        I’m never quite happy with this ‘was radicalised’ description. You radicalise yourself, no-one else does it for you.

        BBC/leftards all crims are victims crap.

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  4. Pounce says:

    So here’s a question how long before the bBC brings you the news by a woman covered head to toe in black?

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  5. Invicta 1066 says:

    Thought For The Day Wednesday. A Sikh came on having attended a conference about prejudice against those who practice a faith, didn’t hear Christianity mentioned as a target. However, the Sikh seemed to be complaining that Sikhs are the subject of abuse being mistakenly identified as Muslim, but no complaints have been made by Sikhs because they are so tolerant thanks to the teachings of ..etc.etc.
    In Midland towns Sikhs girls have been targeted by Muslim men grooming rings and complaints have been made, but no mention of this.
    No mention either of the atrocities against Christians across Pakistan, Syria Iraq or Nigeria, just to name a few places where they could live in reasonable harmony under the previous regimes; might have thought in view of the bombings massacres and forced conversions of Christians the Guru or the BBC might have had the guts to mention this! Perhaps they don’t bother to complain.
    A few year s ago the EU published a report claiming that the increase in attacks on Jews across Europe was carried out by Right Wing groups. The BBC went for this hook line & sinker. When the real figures within the report were analysed it showed that some 90% of attacks were carried out by Muslims. This mirrored an earlier study by German academics that had been commissioned & then dismissed by the EU because clearly it did not fit with their pre-determined intention of blaming the RW while covering up the truth.
    Just a Thought for the Day!

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    • flexdream says:

      A good point about anti-semitism and the ‘far Right’. It seems to me that the facts are, in Britain at least, that for years it has not been the ‘far Right’ who should concern Jews, but the ‘far Left’ and Islamists.

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    • doris says:

      Funny that this is the second thread you’ve posted this thought on.

      I previously asked you to give a link to the EU report but you seemed to have overlooked that despite having time to repeat the post.

      I look forward to you posting the link.

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      • Stewart says:

        Here’s a link for you. Of such creative accounting it could only have been compiled by the IPPC, conveniently starting their stats in 2006, but was in fact done by Europol.
        So many ‘unspecified’ terrorist attacks ( In 2010 in the UK all 40 incidents where committed by unspecified terrorists) , who knew the Peckham horse trough preservation society were so militant or is conservative?
        I found it on a Site called loon watch , an exemplar of bourgeois fauxcialist islamophilia
        But even here amongst the obfuscation and duplicity they cant make the ‘right wing hat fit’ despite ignoring the fact that most separatist movements are avowedly Marxist
        In fact in 2007/8/9 their (Europol) figures suggest that left wing attacks out number right wing attacks by nearly 30 to 1 and in 2010 45 to 0
        you wonder why 2011 isn’t listed? Because Brevics act of mass murder would only count as one act that’s how Islamic apologists twist themselves into knots

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      • flexdream says:

        Doris – I think this is it
        ‘EU ‘covered up’ attacks on Jews by young Muslims’ (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/1458300/EU-covered-up-attacks-on-Jews-by-young-Muslims.html)
        “A study released by the EU’s racism and xenophobia monitoring centre astounded experts by concluding that the wave of anti-Jewish persecution over the last two years stemmed from neo-Nazi or other racist groups.”
        “The headline findings contradict the body of the report. This says most of the 193 violent attacks on synagogues, Jewish schools, kosher shops, cemeteries and rabbis in France in 2002 – up from 32 in 2001 – were “ascribed to youth from neighbourhoods sensitive to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, principally of North African descent.”
        “The European Jewish Congress accused the EU watchdog of twisting data from the 15 member states to suit its own ideological bias, describing the report as a catalogue of “enormous contradictions, errors and omissions.”

        “We cannot let it be said that the majority of anti-Semitic incidents come from young, disaffected white men. This is in complete contradiction with the facts recorded by the police,” it said.

        The EU suppressed a report last year by German academics concluding that Arab gangs were largely responsible for a sudden surge in the anti-Jewish violence, allegedly because the findings were politically unpalatable.”

        You can read the report at http://fra.europa.eu/sites/default/files/fra_uploads/184-AS-Main-report.pdf

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      • Invicta 1066 says:

        Link? I read an article by Mark Steyn in the Spectator, you know, the papery thing with writing on it years ago, and remembered it!
        I even read the actual paper Daily Telegraph(once- apon- a time it was the Guardian& Observer) from Wed to Sunday…takes me Mon&Tues to finish all the weekend articles & puzzles.
        Anyway thanks to all those who have posted links.

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        • doris says:

          A ten year old story served up to accuse the BBC of bias yet you have no link to prove it was bias (as you have no BBC link), just an unsubstantiated claim!

          A brilliantly researched post of deep insight. I look forward to your next ‘thought’ that you can endlessly repost.

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          • Invicta 1066 says:

            The Mark Steyn article arose because he questioned the BBC main news item & did his research. You must by now have done the links posted here by others. You will have seen plain evidence of the EU trying to divert accountability for attacks on Jews from Muslims on to so called RW groups.
            The EU report blamed the RW but the figures totally refuted the deliberately misleading headline, note ‘headline’. The BBC following the EU line ran the storey as given without checking the facts.
            Do you really think the BBC would pass up a chance to run such a report from the EU on its main news??
            And it never apologised for or corrected its reporting.

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            • Stewart says:

              Waste of time. They (BBC/islamist apologists) constantly are squealing for evidence on here, knowing full well that they will not except it when given
              After all she didn’t ‘read it in the Guardian’ so it cant be true

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            • Andy S. says:

              Doris’ style of writing is very familiar. No doubt “Doris” will be replying to himself as “Albaman” or one of our other multi-named trolls.

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          • Cosmo says:

            BBC bias, the new presenter doesn’t think enough Jews are being killed by rockets from Gaza.

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          • ROBERT BROWN says:

            Doris, do you get a kind of sexual arousal by being in denial? Must be wonderful in La La Land, everybody living in harmony………and that is my experience of everyone i’ve met of the Left, they seem to all have a weird, out of body almost teletubby mentality, unreal and very disturbing.

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          • flexdream says:

            Doris – you asked for a link to a report which came out ‘years ago’ and which apparently was not to your liking. Now you have a link you dismiss the report as ‘ten year old’. Are you really interested in debate? Read the latest Europol report on terrorism covering 2012 (it’s not hard to find) and tell me who seems to be killing most of the victims of terrorism and what the motive might be.

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          • mo says:

            Doris. Sadness must come across you. You dimly understand that your pitiful ideology doesn’t quite stand up to the facts and reasoned debate . You cant understand why though Doris

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  6. chrisH says:

    Point taken, but I`ve respect for the Sikhs.
    If they could insist that Islam takes the rap for what is actually going on-and the BBC etc don`t allow that catch all of “Asian”…then we`ll be nearer to taking Muslims on when they get perches at the BBC.
    Funny isn`t it that wherever Islam comes up against another faith…be it Christian Sikh or even Buddhist FFS…be it anywhere on earth…there`s war, conflict and atrocities.
    Why so?…here`s Rageh Omar to tell us…not.

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    • flexdream says:

      Islam doesn’t even need another faith to have violence. Muslim sects battle amongst themselves quite murderously enough.

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  7. Dave s says:

    Are they going mad? Newsnight tonight. I actually watched it for a while.
    Russell Brand. Given the accolade of a one to one interview with Paxman.
    That man is a case study all on his own. That such a man is given a platform on what is supposed to be a serious show is extraordinary.
    He is forever discredited by his behaviour with Ross. Not that his ravings made any sense. He sounded like Pol Pot on speed. Paxman should take up a quiet relaxation like bird watching and stop going throught the motions.
    If Newsnight does not get a grip it is surely the end.

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    • Number 7 says:

      Of course there was nothing else to cover with an in depth report so a filler was needed.

      What was that about Grangemouth, Deans, the Liebore Party and Unite?

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    • David Brims says:

      Russel Brand, aged 12 and a half, wanna be Che Guevara, suffering from adolescent petulance, having a childish rant / tantrum. Embarrassing.

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    • Guest Who says:

      ‘If Newsnight does not get a grip it is surely the end’

      The Ian Katz slipway (a term he seems oddly fond of) seems to continue straight to he bottom of he river.
      Be interesting what his severance deal turns out to be.
      7 – interesting you would say that, as in the Order-order sketch of the latest ‘we believe we got it about right’ outing by Lords Patten & Hall Hall, that is precisely what they were gunning for.

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  8. George R says:

    All part of the ever expanding Beeboid global broadcasting empire:-

    “BBC Creating News Program About Twitter Trends to Be Broadcast via Twitter.”
    http://variety.com/2013/digital/news/bbc-creating-news-program-about-twitter-trends-to-be-broadcast-via-twitter-1200754887/

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    • Guest Who says:

      All, presumably, under the banner ‘views nothing to do with the BBC’, despite being by the BBC, with BBC-invited guests, ‘experts’, BBC editorial-filtered content in (or out) and BBC patsies claimed as independent commentators.
      So, just like broadcast currently, only with the dubious cover of deniability the BBC has created with a one-degree of separation use of another free, overseas, unaccountable social media content provider they have a commercial relation with that is under the £145.50 the BBC gets in compelled funding.
      Unique.
      Stand by for #milibandisapoliticalcollosus ‘trending’ in the run up to the next election, or anything the BBC doesn’t like faring poorly as Stuart Hughes or some other ‘reporter’ decides to create a campaign by pretending to see if there is one out there yet.

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    • +james says:

      Eeww, sounds like a Twitter version of the human centipede.

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  9. David Brims says:

    The other week Rachael Burden was discussing Golden Dawn with the BBC Greek corespondent, it was more like two fish wives having a good gossip over the garden fence.

    Rachael” Oh, they look quite intimidating.”
    Corespondent ” yes, they do look quite scary.”
    Rachael ” and their symbol looks like a swastika !!! ”

    It was all innuendo, insinuation, opinions, no facts. The entire Golden Dawn party has been declared a criminal organisation because a supporter stabbed someone.

    Well, if you follow that logic, the entire Liberal party should be closed down, after all, Jeremy Thorpe planned and plotted a murder, Chris Huhne perverted the course of justice, David Laws and Menzies fiddled their expenses.

    Ramzpaul on Golden Dawn and how the political system works.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFo0XqZIVCg

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    • David Brims says:

      Correction, missed out his surname Menzies Campbell fiddled his expenses.

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    • Selohesra says:

      What about closing down the Labour party what with the blood on the hands of Bliar, Campbell and not forgetting Burnham

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    • Rob says:

      Jeremy Thorpe was in fact found not guilty, though poor Rinka still died.

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    • Adi says:

      And how about “lord” Ahmed?

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      • Ivor Pemple says:

        He was as guilty as **** but still managed to blame the usual scapegoats for his jailing. Still in the Lords still claiming his ex’s still threatening to lead a 100,000 man march on the place. A classic token and Labour should be ashamed of putting what turned out to be a killer in the lords to make laws for you and me.

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    • Andy S. says:

      The symbol of the Golden Dawn is a Greek “Key” design. The same design seen on many Ancient Greek pottery items. Just shows the ignorance of Beeboid reporters.

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  10. stuart says:

    question time should be very interesting tonight,the ghastly pint sized self superior middle class oxbridge educated far letfist posh boy owen jones is on there no doubt with a army of his fellow supporters filling the audience,the only true conservative on the panel is the great peter hitchens,poor old peter will no doubt will be shouted down by the owen jones left wing screaming mob everytime he makes a point that reflects the views of the silent minority in this country,then after that we have question time extra time on radio 5 live with stephen nolan and john pienaar which will be just another left wing love in attacking peter hitchens like they always do.

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    • Frank Words says:

      Owen Jones. Man that’s depressing. How this stupid fool (any doubt about this just recall his appearance on the Daily Politics when he could not distinguish income from wealth) gets so much air time is beyond me. Oh, sorry, of course its the BBC where “Chav” Jones has almost replaced Polly Toynbee as the leading rent-a-left-wing-bourgeois mouthpiece.

      As for Peter Hitchen’s I guess his invite is so the BBC can tick the box marked “Balance/Impartial” though the reality is he is in the stocks.

      Of course Question Time might break the habit of thirty plus years and not be the left’s televised 60 minute hate.

      And I might win the lottery this weekend…….

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      • Doublethinker says:

        Jones is a rising star in Miliband’s Labour Party and I expect that the BBC has been told to give him as much of a platform as possible and have done as much as possible to fulfill their leader’s wishes.

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        • Selohesra says:

          Owen Jones? – I expect the specially selected audience of North Korean Seals are practicing their orchestrated clapping already

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    • Geoff says:

      From Liverpool as well, Hitchens might as well not bother, brave man.

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      • chrisH says:

        Don`t know why he does it….utterly pointless.
        Unless we quantify % interruptions and do an audit on who gets in to abuse, who gets the microphone and if volumes get turned up and down as Jones interrupts, shakes head and shouts over him.
        Role of Dimbleby-the old Bercow idea of an impartial chair?
        Worth a stopwatch tonight-and those cameras staying on a purring leftie, with swivel-eyes photoshopped onto PH later?
        Put nothing past the BBC…except any culpability for inflation, rip offs, persecution of opponents, phone-in fiddles, Balen, anti-Semite, Savile/Hall/Ross/Brand/ type of “pasts we have now moved on from”.

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        • Dave s says:

          Peter Hitchens should have said no. The show is completely unsuitable for the way he argues a point. He must know this. There is no further point in engaging with the liberal left . I shall not be watching.

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      • Frank Words says:

        Ah, this years European City of Grievance, Entitlement and Umbrage Taking.

        And 2012, 2011, 2010, etc

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  11. Ian Rushlow says:

    More immigrants please! The BBC is showing a programme Thursday night about demographics in Japan (“No sex please, We’re Japanese”) and there is an advert for it, sorry I mean a supporting article on the website this morning (see http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24614830). It gives some interesting insights into some aspects of contemporary Japanese culture and it’s declining population. But being the BBC, it cannot help itself with comments such as: “Japan’s demographic timebomb is also linked to the lack of immigration. In Britain one in eight people were born abroad, compared to one in 60 in Japan. But immigration in Japan is still heavily restricted…”. It will be interesting to see if the producer is able to think outside the box and ask some interesting questions, like: Given that Japan is densely populated and short of natural resources, might not a smaller population be a good thing? Or how about: Japan has been one of the most successful countries of the past 70 years – how has it achieved this without the ‘benefits'(sic) of mass immigration? Or even: Japan is a stable country with a low crime rate – to what degree is this the result of being a mono-cultural society? We shall await and see!

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    • Mice Height says:

      The word ‘sustainability’ is never used when pushing the pro-mass-immigration agenda, only the climate change one.

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      • Guest Who says:

        Such selectivity on issues, treating them in isolation, is seldom a sign of professional maturity in media coverage.
        Pushing agendas is hard to equate with objectivity.

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      • flexdream says:

        Will our people age? And in the future we’ll have an even bigger demographic timebomb?

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        • Ian Rushlow says:

          No, our people won’t age. Already 10,000 a year die of hypothermia each year because they can’t afford to heat their homes, and we can expect that number to rise as a consequence of the government’s desire to make money for foreign energy companies and indulge in green windmills-of-the-mind projects. But yes, we do have a demographic time bomb due to having imported large numbers of fast breeders (and I don’t mean French nuclear reactors).

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      • RHG says:

        Quite…sustainability is never achieved by rising populations..in fact population pressure in the 3rd world (sex and sexism being the poor man’s cinema)..is the root cause of masssive environmental degradation, poverty and political instability..look around…

        so in order to avoid ‘demographic time bomb’ the unskilled are recruited..and then what…more and more needed to look after the now old immigrants…sustainability…ask Attenborough. Optimum Population Trust…

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    • MartinW says:

      Japan, a wonderful country, with a kind people, and one where you can feel perfectly safe everywhere. That is not to say there aren’t a few problems, but the unified, mono-cultural society engenders stability.

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      • Invicta 1066 says:

        Quite right Martin. Japan has the same demographic problem as we have aging population & lowering birth rate. However, the problem will eventually resolve itself and Japan will within a couple of generations have a sustainable population and more advanced technology, such as functional robots to do the work that low paid migrants are brought in to do in the UK. Migrants who are allowed to stay, obtain citizenship, create large families which will make the future problem 10 times greater than the ”solution’
        I wonder how our multicultural society would have managed the Tsunami that devastated parts of Japan recently? All pulled together, or suddenly found their own country of exile wasn’t so bad after all, and decided to go back there.

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        • David Brims says:

          Japan had an earthquake, tsunami and a nuclear meltdown all on the same day, yet there was no riots or lootings.

          Police in London shoot dead gangster rapper Mark Duggan, and the Gates of Hell opened up, blacks all over the city riot, causing £200 million pounds worth of damage.

          What is interesting to note is not that the race riot took place but where it didn’t take place, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, Cornwall, Cumbria, these places are still relatively mono cultural.

          And the places they robbed and looted, television, mobile phone, nike trainer shops. The book shops were left untouched !!

          .

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    • Dave s says:

      All very true. But we all know the BBC agenda here. The usual liberal fantasy vs reality.
      Japan looks to be a nation state that will survive long after we have beacome a failed state. A smaller poplulation is no indication of a nation’s health or survivability.
      We ,along with the failing states of the EU , are not going to make it to the 22nd century in any recognisable form.
      The future belongs to the nations of East Asia (China,Japan ,a unified Korea, the old Indo China and possibly India/Burma. No where else save possibly Russia re-energised by refugees from the West of Europe and it’s own people’s efforts. Not forgetting the Poles amd Ukrainians.
      You can forget the USA for a few generations. That is until reality comes back to them.
      Germany remains the interesting nation and the hardest to predict.
      For us sadly there is no future. Liberalism has corroded our institutions and our life to that extent.

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    • chrisH says:

      Somalia is surprisingly homogenous too…as much as China I believe.
      Any chance of the BBC being moved from Media City to Mogadishu Crater…so they could show the Somalis how to enrich, and create those lovely furry vibes that only the septic sewer with an aromatherapy candle in a paper boat floating along ,could do…our BBC.
      FFS take Somalis…you`ll never get an easier days piracy…and we will pay to take them back…honest!

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    • David Brims says:

      Japan is 80 % is mountainous and has no mineral resources yet it’s an industrial giant. Africa on the other hand is 3 times the size of Europe, full of minerals, gold, diamonds etc etc, yet it’s in the stone age. I wonder why that is ? is it, dare I say it, the people make the country and it’s down to genetics.

      No muslim terrorism, no black knife crime, no race riots, no sharia law, no gypsy pickpocket crime in Japan, but then, Japan unlike Europe hasn’t been subverted.

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      • David Brims says:

        You won’t believe this video, black man James ” King Tight ” Blackstone, a rapper, dancing, ( rampaging ) and intimidating people on a train in Japan. He later went on to murder Nicola Furlong. I wonder why people don’t like blacks, it’s baffling !!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaMxy6FF4Lk

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        • David Brims says:

          Read the comments underneath the video, unlike the BBC, youtube doesn’t have the Stalinist censorship.

          Tim O’Brian ” This is whats known as typical black behaviour, you dont see other races behave like this. I’ve been all over the world and have become aware of how detrimental it is for any society to have these blacks in our midst .”

          I’ve toned it down.

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        • uncle bup says:

          Hey hey steady on with the casual racism. Living in London I have plenty of black friends; as educated and as sensible as most of my white friends and with whom I’d go into the trenches with.

          Good and bad in every race I’m afraid.

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      • flexdream says:

        Africa doesn’t have an aging population, so they shouldn’t worry should they?

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        • Arthur Penney says:

          Well with HIV and the approved method of curing it, it is hard to see how Africa will have any population soon.

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    • mo says:

      Excellent point on Japanese society and monoculturalism Ian Rushlow

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  12. dave1east says:

    free vitiam needed for English children

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  13. dave1east says:

    free vitamins needed for England’s children

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-24641796

    poverty cited as the reason, but what aren’t we being told?

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    • Thoughtful says:

      I heard this, and what you aren’t being told is that rickets which is the reason cited is caused by a lack of vitamin D. Vitamin D is synthesised by the action of sun on the skin. It does not synthesise as effectively in darker skinned people which is one of the reasons nature decided to put none of them here, without technology they could not survive long term.

      A comparison with Sweden was drawn that they have less than half the number of cases as the UK, what’s not been said is that they have much fewer black people !

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      • George R says:

        “Health Effects of Islamic Dress”

        http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Health_Effects_of_Islamic_Dress

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      • Doublethinker says:

        Surely the sensible solution, and one which is sustainable and natural rather than using synthetic vitamins from the awful chemical industry , is to send them back to sunnier climes! Nature didn’t intend them to live in these sunless, cold northern regions. Surely every lefty can see how much better it is to work with nature than against it.
        Couldn’t we send vans round advertising a free one way ticket for all the family.

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  14. AsISeeIt says:

    Could someone please explain to me the BBC obession with Islam?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24463736

    Can technology help avoid stampedes?
    By Jane Wakefield Technology reporter

    The report begins with a reference to deaths at a Hindu festival in India but this is simply the hook on which to hang yet another pean to the enlightened and caring Saudis and to Islam

    ‘For their part, the Saudi authorities are pleased to have such a technology partner’

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      You’ve got it wrong. It is us that are obsessed with Islam.

      © Dez, Scott, Albaman, doris…

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      • Guest Who says:

        One thing that was most noteworthy about Facebook’s recent/current travails with moderation was the BBC’s almost uncanny ability in ‘reporting’ (and, to be fair, the UAF’s top supporter) to miraculously not mention that which can only be spoken by them. As it suited. For some reason.
        I await a Newsnight special, where guest ‘reporters’ Russell & Penny slide down the Newsnight slipway to look into outbreaks of Mexicandruglordaphobia, and how Mexican drug lord communities are now living in fear of an onslaught of food-related attacks as soggy taco shells are discovered on the outside of chili restaurants.
        Prepare also for BBC bylines penned by many more ‘Pacos’ & ‘Conchitas’ as the 8,000-strong cubicle farm is swelled still further to meet the demands of representing this community under assault.

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        • AsISeeIt says:

          Quite apposite. The one and only BBC attributed head chop that burnt my ears was indeed very much Aztec rather than Arab in pre Renaissance flavour.

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          • Guest Who says:

            🙂
            Nicely put.
            Though the Flokker community may again struggle and express frustration.
            Which would be a bonus.

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    • lynette says:

      Reminds me of another programme – can science help board a plane more quickly but this time it was an Israeli Professor from showing how it can indeed help. It was on a Radio 4 news programme in 2005 He who was using the science of Einstein ( so the BBC said) The announcer had loudly proclaimed the Professor as Israeli. and proceeded to mock his ideas by her tone of voice. It was clear that the BBC clearly did not mean to show anything positive about Israel with this report.eg their agenda was -these Israeli’s are so clever but really they are a waste of time !
      However, the Professor’s explanation was well presented and in perfect English. In fact, it was an interesting and useful solution. She kept to her script though with a strongly sarcastic and dismissive “Well , that was as clear as mud” Despite the fact that it was no longer appropriate because the anti israel message was the reason for this news item ,it had to be stuck to.

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      • starfish says:

        BBC reporters and interviewers brandish their sceintific and mathematical ignorance as a badge of honour

        Me, I would be ashamed to admit it

        But there you go

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        • Wild says:

          But Mike Berry says that the BBC is a mouthpiece of pro-Israeli Jew propaganda, and he wrote a book about it so it must be true.

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          • flexdream says:

            Did you notice all the BBC coverage about how many of the ‘hard’ Nobel prize winners were Jewish? I mean the science prizes where you need to be good at sums, not the ones where you write a book.

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            • Cosmo says:

              It makes you wonder that if the cure for cancer should come out of Israel, how on earth will the bbc handle that. And whilst I’m at it will the usual suspects boycott the cure for themselves and their loved ones ?

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      • richard D says:

        Picking up onLenette’s post, but slightly OT, I have never in my life seen planes boarded more quickly than in China. Having travelled extensively internally within China recently, I was always amazed when arriving at the gate, to find no-one else there, the flight only having been called a minute or two earlier. Sure enough, boarding the plane, there were one or two hundred Chinese seated, hand baggage sorted out, waiting for take-off. I almost began to get a complex about my late arrival (although I was in no way late at all).

        One day, I got early warning of the flight boarding and got to the gate first. I sat amazed as these guys got on the plane, no ‘seat-row-number’ boarding, and just got up the aisle, found a seat, lobbed their bags in the overhead locker, and sat down and patiently waited for take-off. Incredible sight.

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  15. Dave666 says:

    Nice to see the BBc back to the good old stories in the last few days. Oh the horror buy one get one free and throw it away shock horror outrage. Yes back to the story of us all throwing all of our food away. Hey we put the get one free in the freezer we don’t buy perishable goods that we don’t use in time. I suspect most people do this. But in light of the BBc report I think we should all pay more.

    This morning we are back on the rickets on the increase story (again). Note the second doctor states he hasn’t seen this. Almost zero research turns up his: Researchers at Birmingham Children’s Hospital warned that rickets was returning in 2002 after 24 victims, most from black and Asian families, were diagnosed in the year leading up to May 2001 at a a rate of 8.9 cases per 100,000 children. So 24 right. Just watching more rubbish statements about Condorde “there was no other aircraft like Condorde” hmmm apart from the Russian SST (OK it was only briefly in service but…)

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    • Big Dick says:

      MI5 knew the KGB were after Concordes plans , so they had fake ones drawn up with minor variations . The KGB did get hold of the “fake” ones , & passed them on to Tupolev who built the TU144 . Thats why it kept crashing, no one knew ,not even Snowden /Guardian of the time , thank goodness .

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  16. AsISeeIt says:

    Follow the Corporate interest

    Commercial broadcasters who fund their sports coverage with betting advertising are corporate rivals to the BBC

    So Nicky Campbell on his phone-in picks up some campaigners’ report about professional footballers getting into trouble having a flutter and runs with a call that “something must be done” ie Government should extend controls on advertising.

    Why not declare your self-interest, BBC?

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    • Milverton says:

      It is actually the second time day running the phone-in has taken its topic from a press release that dropped on a desk. Yesterday was about sexual harassment in the workplace courtesy of a release from a legal firm called Slater & Gordon.

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  17. Doublethinker says:

    I listened to the Media Show on R4 yesterday. There was a long piece on how few programmes are actually watched/listen to by ethnic minorities. Apparently the BBC hasn’t done enough by ensuring that ethnics are usually the good guys and included in positions of power whenever possible. What is needed is for those who make the programes to be ethnics. Only then will we get programmes that they want to take. Of course the fact that fewer and fewer white folks will watch these ethnic offerings wasn’t mentioned. So we can look forward to all sorts of ethnic programmes in future.
    God rot the BBC.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Maybe a new series of Top Gear with Misses Husain, Tulip & Chakrabati, only without that nasty car stuff, or fun, etc, and a lot more moaning about stuff that they don’t like.
      It’s not like they’ll need to worry about ratings.
      Though Tony may need to juggle the budget again to make sure the pension obligations still get met when the revenue stream dries up.
      Or get Ed back in pronto with a promise to double the licence fee to meet its new self-assigned remits.

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    • JimS says:

      Using the same logic it is time they got in some programme commissioners that don’t belong to the self-selecting, Guardian reading ‘liberal elite’.
      Then we might have something on the BBC that the bulk of the UK population can identify with.

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    • Arthur Penney says:

      I suppose the BBC think that if they double the number of ethnic minority viewers and halve the number of indigenous white viewers then overall the total number of viewers will remain the same.

      Never let a lefty near a set of numbers – it confuses them. – Why do you think they all study politics, history, modern languages and english (at least the semi-literate ones do) at Uni?

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  18. chrisH says:

    Bet Aung Asn Syu Ki wishes that she was back under house arrest with a more liberal regime than that which Mishal Hussein lives under there at the Beeb.
    An outrageous interview with the chrysanthamum-decked frangrant heroine of Burma(well that`s what the BBC said a few years back about her)-just before the 8a.m news on Today(24.10.13).
    Mind you, thanks to previous posters here, we know her- Hamas killed less of you Jooz than you Israelis killed of them…”s`not fair, say sorry will ya?”
    Today it was the Burmese Opposition Leader-fresh from house arrest, and a photo-op with DLT(which is worse?)-to get the “more Muslims are dying that you Buddhist types-thought you were a hippy bunch-didn`t you get Lennons message?”type of interview.
    An absolute disgrace-Husein( that name again folks!) wouldn`t give a fig if it were Christians being attacked by Buddhists-that`d be western foreign policy and imperialisms fault as ever.
    Still-you can see why they chose this truffle hound to stick the boot into somebody that Bono-yes, BONO-wrote a song about…because it`s s`not fair that any religion defends itself against Islam.
    Note the chill when Aungy says that we all know it`s a worldwide issue-not simply a few Dalai Lama candle sellers getting eggy with Al Shabab or whoever it`ll be over there.
    Set fire to yourself-right on, Jan Palach!
    Let Muslims set fire to you-turn the other cheek, let them flog it whilst you burn…YOU`RE the problem!..and that“ll be Islamic petrol being wasted on you.
    Load of jizz(ya)-lets hope that Nelson Mandela can be dragged off his life support before he avoids the blame for a Muslim Cape Town shopkeeper getting a JW leaflet through his door!
    Poor Aung San…they only gave her Kirsty Young a few months ago, before setting THIS trap for her I`d imagine.
    The world has changed since you heard the BBC World Service love( yes Scott-spellings are approximate, and will report to the Womans Hour Commissariat after this to be cured of that last sexist word…oooh, I hate myself now!)

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    • John Anderson says:

      It was the tone of malice in Husein’s voice that got me.

      She really is a nasty piece of work, it was editorially wrong to have her conduct the interview.

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      • graphene fedora says:

        Yes, it seemed by the harsher tone of Mishal’s voice that she had just heard that all her nannies had joined the EDL.

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  19. will says:

    There was an air of the infamous Mishal Hussein “no dead Jews” interview this morning when she interviewed Michael Moran, Interpol’s head of Human Trafficking and Child Exploitation about the Roma child abduction situation. Mishal had decided it was all hysteria – not many children dead – and only wanted Moran to admit that the Roma’s record of child abduction was no worse than that of the gen pop. She really does lose sight of the big picture with her obsession to get answers to the angle she has decided is paramount.

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    • RCE says:

      Yup. Blatant, crass, single minded pursuit of the minority agenda with not even a mention of the alternative view that the protection of children may actually merit the occasional false alarm.

      I presume by ‘hysteria’ Ms Hussein meant that it had been covered by the Daily Mail.

      The last hour of Today was blatant left wing propaganda. So much so that I may indulge myself in an act of post-modern futility by complaining to ‘Audience Services’ later today.

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    • Scott says:

      She really does lose sight of the big picture with her obsession to get answers to the angle she has decided is paramount.

      Is there no limit to the irony level on Biased BBC?

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  20. Geoff says:

    BBC Sport foaming at the mouth over the racist taunts of a foreign born player playing a match abroad for a foreign manager.

    Like most I really couldnt care…

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    • David Brims says:

      Not even a storm in a tea cup, more like thimble.

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      • Geoff says:

        You have to laugh they spend 3 or 4 minutes bellyaching over this, then end with ten seconds “…And on the pitch the match ended 2-1….”

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        • chrisH says:

          Any chance of a bit of publicity for the wimmins footy?
          Plant a few racists there-their money`s as good as the liberals isn`t it?
          Burquas for disguise-and rather deeper voices that you`d expect from the ululatory community( Life of Brian stoning comes to mind!).
          Clearly you` de be able to hear every word-even a whispered “she`s playing like a girl”…come in Rusty Lee etc, etc!
          Win-win…wimmins footy infected by racism…and Islam being attacked if we call them out for their racism too!
          T`would only take twelve or so spectators…so it`ll take some time yet before we could try this one out!

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  21. Doyle says:

    Not BBC bias but BBC-speak. A student from the US via Italy was brutally assaulted in East London.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2473170/American-student-scarred-life-brutal-mob-attack-caught-CCTV-days-arrived-UK.html
    The copper investigating said, ‘ we believe the suspects (‘asian’ naturally) picked a fight with the victim (white) as he was obviously not from the local area (it’s ‘their’ area) and they took exception to the fact that he was different (white, Italian, Christian?). The victim has an Italian accent, his own sense of dress and mannerisms, and when challenged by the ‘asian’ (my own speech-marks) males, answered them back (shock, horror).’
    On reading this, it seemed to me that the copper was making excuses for the perps – ‘he was obviously not from the local area’ i.e. he was asking for it, ‘he was a bit different’ i.e. he was asking for it, he had ‘his own sense of dress and mannerisms’ i.e. he was asking for it, ‘he answered them back’ i.e. he was asking for it. Now, old cynic that I am, I can’t imagine the plod making similar excuses for a gang of white thugs.

       43 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      Of course, said copper was possibly pondering that if said ‘suspects’ were under the influence, or not (either’s fine) then there really was no point even running them through Dave & Theresa’s new legal system.
      Of course, the victim, by being the wrong kind of vibrantly diverse character to tick the outrage boxes, really deserved what was inevitably coming to him.
      Can’t wait to see how the English Tourist Board spin it.
      http://www.coolplaces.co.uk/blog/2012/7/19/40-setjetting-gangster-london-with-nick-the-greek
      BBC ‘Murca can of course decide it’s ‘not news’ ((c) A. Journalist) and maybe Aunty can prevail on their best buds in the States’ MSM to go easy. Though keeping the lid on FaceBook may be an issue unless there was some exposed bottom.

         9 likes

    • John Standley says:

      Let’s hope this poor bloke is being treated by the NHS – the “Envy of The World” in BBCspeak.

         9 likes

      • feargal the cat says:

        Lets hope the poor bloke isn’t being treated by the NHS; a beating up is nothing in comparison to playing dodge ball with infection/erroneous medication.

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      • Ian Hills says:

        Maybe he’s on the Liverpool Care Pathway to the fake shower block….

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  22. will says:

    Possible agonies ahead for the BBC by this announcement by “one of us”

    The National Trust is prepared to consider fracking on its land but has all but ruled out wind farms, according to the head of the conservation charity. Dame Helen Ghosh, the trust’s Director-General, told The Times in an interview that it was keeping an open mind on drilling for natural gas and was waiting to see what evidence emerged about its environmental impact. She added that gas was “less bad” than coal in terms of carbon dioxide emissions.

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  23. David Brims says:

    A black woman, with mental health problems, tried to crash her car into the White House. The police shoot her dead, they could have shot the tyres out and arrested her.

    No outrage from race hustlers Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson , ” Reverend ” Jeremaih Wright, is it because the occupant of the White House is black ? the story is all forgotten.

    Yet Hispanic security guard George Zimmerman defends himself from attack by a black yoof, Trayvon Skittles Martin. It’s world wide news !!

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2442703/Capitol-Hill-lockdown-Miriam-Carey-thought-Obama-stalking-taking-schizophrenia-medication.html

    Double standards ?

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  24. David Brims says:

    I wanted to watch The story of the Jews, but the limp wristed presentation style of Simon Schama put me off, there’s a touch of the Larry Graysons about him.

    They should have got some one less camp, say Brian Sewell.

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    • will says:

      I appreciated the passion shown by Schama & watched the whole series, but I agree about him appearing camp. If that is a quote by Sewell it is priceless 🙂

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    • Deborah says:

      David B – the series is worth watching. I thought I would be watching 5 minutes before switching off in a huff – but was surprised and pleased that the audience were treated as adults with brains rather than 6 year olds. It is perhaps why there were few comments about the series on this site.
      Surprised also with Grayson Perry’s Reith lecture. Now there is a camp delivery but utterly interesting in what he has to say.

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  25. Chris says:

    An insight into the minds of the left wing. They actually think they can argue the bbc is not biased toward the left. Note the use of Cardiff University to conduct the research.
    Bbc biased in favour of the right. You couldn’t make it up-
    http://www.newstatesman.com/broadcast/2013/08/hard-evidence-how-biased-bbc

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    • Stewart says:

      Fantastic
      “Tories get more airtime than Labour”
      Hitler gets more air time than Stalin on the BBC does that mean the BBC is pro Nazi?
      Two explanations they ( bourgeois liberal patrician class academics ) believe that the ‘plebs’ will swallow any rubbish fed to them by their ‘betters’ or, they are so disconnected from consensus reality they believe it themselves

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      • Wild says:

        Mike Berry the Socialist Worker Activist who got his PhD from the Far Left Glasgow Media Group writes a report (with graphs!) saying that the BBC is not left-wing enough. Stop the presses.

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        • chrisH says:

          Didn`t he do “The Crying Game”?
          Or was he one of the Rocking Berries?
          Preferred the Grumbleweeds myself-or BBC Current Affairs as they go by these days.

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      • David Kay says:

        The BBC was very pro nazi. far worse than a certain newspaper the left like to keep reminding us of

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Reith,_1st_Baron_Reith#Pro-fascist_sympathies

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      • chris says:

        Its a bit more complex then that. Left wing politics appears to be religion substitution. People flock to the left for moral guidance as to how to be a good person. Its has all the trapping of Christianity, without God.
        And as for the statistic proof, that is just typical of the modern world.
        Say 80% of airtime was given to conservative MPs, but in that time they were slaughtered by the interviewer without question, and then the interviewer rants on about how great Labour is. The statistics therefore create a false impression of bias towards the right. Its left wing lies.

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        • Arthur Penney says:

          Of course the fact that any ‘right wing’ organisation is introduced as such but any ‘left wing’ organisation is independent sort of skews the data. Similalry mentioning conservative MPs in the expenses scandal but otherwise just saying MPs also has the effect.

          See my comment further on re lefties and numbers.

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        • Andy S. says:

          There’s an old Peter Sellers record track called “Face to Face” with an interviewer giving an old duffer member of the establishment a very hard time. Sellers’ interviewer constantly interrupts and never waits for an answer before asking another question which is more of an accusation than inquisitorial. Pure comedy gold and very prescient of the BBC’s style of political interview.

          If someone more technically savvy than I can find this track on YouTube and post it I would be very grateful.

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    • Stoical cynic says:

      Maybe I’m being cynical but I think they all know full well that the BBC is biased to the left. They come out saying it’s biased to the right in order to cancel out the people saying it’s biased to the left. That way when the time comes to do something about it the criticism from both sides cancels out and it stays how it is (biased to the left).

      I think they’ve miscalculated. I think bias is bias, of whatever hue, and the actions to fix it will be killing the BBC trust and breaking the Beeb up into manageable pieces.

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  26. Joshaw says:

    Just caught a bit of Mishal Husain’s interview of the far more impressive Aung San Suu Kyi on BBC News 24 this lunchtime.

    She seemed very concerned about the treatment by Buddhists of Muslims in Burma. Nothing intrinsically wrong with that, except that I couldn’t help wondering when I last heard the BBC express concern about the treatment by Muslims of Buddhists in S Thailand, or Christians just about anywhere else.

    In spite of Aung San Suu Kyi’s obvious intelligence and some very reasonable points, the Husain woman didn’t seem particularly interested and insisted on pushing the Muslim interest.

    Sickening, but entirely typical.

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    • chrisH says:

      Yes-Aung San Suu Kyi….hated, feared and loathed by the might of the Burmese military junta…house arrest, harrassed and unable to attend her own husbands funeral.
      Mishal Husein-been doing the Today show on and off for a week and a half or so…and hates Israel, based on her interview on News 24 a while back.
      No contest who is the real go-to gal at the BBC for all things to do with her far flung country, with those poor jihadists…
      Still-Bono wrote about her, did her a song…oh, and she got a spot on Desert Island Discs too…
      No jury trial in this case-a Beeb Diplock Court will do..

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    • Invicta 1066 says:

      And now back to the studio. That was Mishal Husain interviewing Aung san Suu Kyi who unequivocally condemned the killing of Muslims by Buddhists. Well done Mishal.

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    • noggin says:

      Mishal (eyes give it away) Hussein, interview here
      news 24
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-24651359

      toady interview here
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/i/b03dvbyh/

      grrrr!
      1 hr 49 min

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  27. Guest Who says:

    The other day someone kindly posted this link (possibly one doris wasn’t so keen on):
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/democracylive/house-of-commons-24627170
    At two and 3/4 hrs a bit of a slog, so best absorbed in small chunks (so far Mr. Patten’s intro effort all I can take without laughing out loud and scaring the horses).
    It is already discussed online elsewhere, as it seems to have a bad habit of not working (an apt metaphor).
    http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/steerpike/2013/10/a-mysterious-patten-emerging/
    http://bbcwatch.org/2013/10/23/future-of-the-bbc-discussed-in-parliament/
    http://tradingaswdr.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/decline.html

    Let’s just say it did not go well, if the BBC’s ‘reporting’ of it followed a predictably different path to avoid this.
    Maybe they need to invest any prorgamming money left after the pay-offs, hush-ups and legals to boost morale internally?:
    http://tradingaswdr.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/bar.html
    Nothing says ‘best use of public funds’ than ‘a club with rooftop pool and 50 bedrooms on the inner ring of the building’.
    Especially with ‘Top of The Pops’ nights, by lonely men hoping for a glance of Pan’s People’.
    They may need to avoid a clash with ‘Children in need’ guests around that inner ring, mind.

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  28. Guest Who says:

    http://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-select/culture-media-and-sport-committee/inquiries/parliament-2010/future-of-the-bbc/
    For any inspired, ‘they’ do say they invite ‘your’ views.
    What’s not to believe there, given all the publicity?
    At first glance it looks typically attrition-based, relying on the public not having the paid time of the public sector to weigh in and in a manner they will ‘accept’, but as it does not appear to be going straight into the BBC-controlled secret gatekeeper system where they can ensure nothing passes even to their own bosses on an implausible denial basis (see Pollard), and FOI-exclude any attempt to find out, this may be a worthy route.

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  29. David Kay says:

    There seems to be a lot of debate over green taxes adding about £112 to the average annual bill and how people cant afford it.

    Has anyone mentioned the £145.50 Telly Tax and maybe if we scarpped the telly tax people could afford to eat and heat their homes at the same time as well as staying green. And still be financially better off as well

       22 likes

    • Cosmo says:

      They always seem to forget the VAT aspect also. What does the gov’ derive there ? how many billions ? And also missing from this argument “COUNCIL TAX”. I live in a modest house but seem to pay much more in the said council tax than the figures quoted as the average paid for both gas and electricity. I can turn the heating down which gives me some control of what I spend but with the council tax you pay the full amount or they send round the bailiffs.

         16 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      http://www.spectator.co.uk/columnists/james-delingpole/9063201/why-cant-the-bbc-be-impartial-in-the-climate-change-debate/
      Not too much that has not been raised here.
      And even the calibre of Flokker there seems to meet industry standards.

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      • Stoic says:

        The Beeb is slow is all. Group think takes time to do a U-turn in the face of truth. Eventually, when the catastrophe conspicuously fails to appear, it’ll slowly dawn on them that it was all balls. Then they’ll stop talking about it and pretend like it never happened.
        That’s what happened to their support for the Euro.

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  30. George R says:

    Sweden for the Syrians.

    More Beeboid ‘multicultural’ political lobbying for mass influx of asylum-seekers/immigrants into E.U.
    “Sweden’s asylum offer to refugees from Syria”
    By Chris Morris
    BBC News, Stockholm.

    (inc video clip)

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24635791

    Note: no Beeboid mention of the mass immigration of Somalis and Afghanis into Sweden, which, of course, continues.

    Alternative views:-

    “The Coming Flood of Syrian Refugees to Sweden”
    By Bruce Bawer.

    http://frontpagemag.com/2013/bruce-bawer/the-coming-flood-of-syrian-refugees-to-sweden/

       11 likes

    • John Anderson says:

      There are still a lot of BBC folk who believe in totally open borders, eg for the poor Med-boat people and now the Syrians. A theme of last week’s Moral Maze programme. Flying in the face of strongly-expressed public opinion – but that’s the BBC of course.

         20 likes

      • chrisH says:

        Anybody able to let us know where Giles Frasers church and presbytery/vicarage might be?
        He wants the worlds huddled masses you see(Moral Maze last week).
        There`s no shortage of space in THEM to refuse a few dozen Dale farm refugees, assorted Roma-and a Somali chap with clan to provide the necessary racial mix for tolerance and loveliness.
        All together now…”all we need is a great big melting pot”…and hot enough to boils Saviles smalls would be nice too!
        Bald Bullshitting Canon.
        The floors yours Scott!

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      • graphene fedora says:

        There should be an ‘open borders’ policy at Broadcasting House, & other beeboid installations – no security whatsoever. Lots of spacious, warm, taxpayer-funded studios, cosy corners, cheap canteens, toilets, bathrooms, prayer rooms, gyms, medics, in-house psychiatrists. In no time at all, it could be ‘Little Syria’. Fiona Bruce could read the news with a Christian refugee sitting on her lap. Then, & only then, would I believe that beeboid concern for refugees is anything other than the usual reflex altruistic narcissism – ‘caring’, yeah, yeah, but from a safe distance. Really, not ‘caring’ at all. Just more fine words floating uselessly in The Ministry of Hypocrisy. But if it makes you feel good, do it…

           14 likes

        • flexdream says:

          Once someone has Swedish citizenship I think they can move and live anywhere in the EU.

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    • David Brims says:

      Barbara Lerner Spectre, a real nasty piece of work, wants Sweden to be more multicultural.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFE0qAiofMQ

         9 likes

    • Dave s says:

      I wonder if the Swedish generosity extends to the Syrian Christians?
      Sweden is a very strange place. Intent on cultural suicide it shows just what liberalism and statism can lead to. For a beeboid what is there not to like?
      A warning to every other nation state.to the sane amongst us.

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      • Andrew says:

        But did you see Zlatan Ibrahimovic’s goals in that friendly against England? They PROVE that multiculturalism REALLY DOES WORK!!!

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  31. George R says:

    “BBC criticised after false widow spiders get precedence
    over royal christening.”

    http://metro.co.uk/2013/10/24/bbc-criticised-after-false-widow-spiders-get-precedence-over-royal-christening-4159777/?

       11 likes

  32. George R says:

    Two reports on brutal attack on American in Tower Hamlets.

    1.) ‘Atlas Shrugs’-

    “FLORIDA STUDENT BEATEN BY MUSLIM MOB IN A SHARIA ZONE IN EAST LONDON”

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2013/10/east-london-florida-student-in-sharia-zone-beaten-by-muslim-mob.html

    2.) INBBC:-

    “Police release CCTV after student attacked with bottle”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-24638451

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  33. George R says:

    More global expansion of Beeboid broadcasting empire:-

    “BBC World News HD launches in Thailand and Indonesia”

    http://www.rapidtvnews.com/index.php/2013102430479/bbc-world-news-hd-launches-in-thailand-and-indonesia.html?

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  34. chris says:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-24651359
    lets see, UK, Holland, Sweden, France, Syria, India pre and post partition, Nigeria, Sudan, Pakistan. What do these and all other countries with Muslim populations have in common?
    Muslims can’t reside side by side with others.

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  35. John Anderson says:

    Good to see that the BBC had a play last week about the protestors/vandals at a UK power station. We need more BBC drama like that, – there is not enough leftie stuff on the airwaves.

    But the BBC seems to be a little less endlessly whiny now about the Russians and Greenpeace, not that the charge has been reduced from piracy carrying 15 years imprisonment to the lesser charfe with just 7 years. It is difficult to argue that the lesser charge is not apt..

    Smart move by the Russkies, Here they are showing Greenpeace the respect it deserves :

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2013/10/greenpeace-update.php

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  36. George R says:

    BBC-NUJ: its usual omission on Illiteracy in U.K children:-

    1.) ‘Daily Mail:-

    (2011)

    “Uncontrolled immigration is destroying Britain’s literacy”
    By ABHIJIT PANDYA.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2041929/Uncontrolled-immigration-destroying-Britains-literacy.html

    2.) BBC-NUJ:-

    “Five-year-olds find literacy standards hardest to meet”
    By Judith Burns
    BBC News education reporter.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-24653278

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    • Dave s says:

      The whole thrust of the policy is to get our small children on the treadmill as soon as possible. Presumably so that the indoctrination can start earlier and the children prepared for a life in the hive.
      I find the pressuring of five year olds abhorrent.

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  37. Arthur Penney says:

    BBC 5-live tried to embarrass Health Minister over publishing of data showing that some hospitals aren’t as good as others.

    Health Minister rubs BBC 5-live noses in it stating that most of the Data is pre 2010 and he feels it better to release the information rather than sit on it and keep the public in the dark.

    Game, set and match – and not to the BBC. Will assume that the interview and the data release will quickly drop from BBC main news programmes. Glad to be proved wrong.

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  38. Guest Who says:

    http://order-order.com/2013/10/24/mad-als-scottish-power-trip/
    But what’s the point of a power-crazed, discredited, PR spinner & bully on the books if such a history means no medium of integrity seeking to inform over chase ratings and score tribal points would go near bringing him to our screens with a barg…. oh.
    Carry on.

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  39. Llareggub says:

    I assume that the brutal assault on an American student in Tower Hamlets by five ‘asian’ men will not feature on the BBC. Now if it were an example of mild provocation by five white youths we would never hear the last of it.

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=443_1382528987

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  40. Maturecheese says:

    I see QT is in the peoples republic of Liverpool tonight with that awful pest Shouty Jones and Ms bloody Flint. Peter Hitchens must enjoy a challenge that’s all I can say as he is going to get nowt but hassle from the ‘impartial’ audience.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Someone commented earlier that he is foolish to go on and even attempt to represent another viewpoint.
      Which is, probably, true. At least personally. It will be bruising.
      However, professionally, the mission of the BBC seems to be to arrange for no one who doesn’t represent what they want, in its entirety, to ever come near them with a bargepole.
      And it’s working beyond their wildest dreams.
      http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/davidblair/100242929/how-can-aung-san-suu-kyi-a-nobel-peace-prize-winner-fail-to-condemn-anti-muslim-violence/
      With a reaction such as this (the man is an idiot and the comments reflect that – even the Tel’s Flokkers seem wary) to a clear ambush attempt, will she ever return to the country, much less our revered national broadcaster.
      And once they ensure only ‘their’ voices are heard….

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      • Maturecheese says:

        Apologies, I really should read right through the threads before posting as I should obviously have commented further up the board. Still I think we are all in agreement that PH is going to get a rough time and I certainly wonder why he would want to even bother.

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    • AsISeeIt says:

      Tony Hall has told MPs that the BBC no longer fits the audience to the location of QT. He told the recent Parliamentary Committee that 30% are Labour supporters, 30% Conservative, 10% liberal, 10% UKIP/Nats and 10% Don’t Knows.

      Believe that if you will.

      As Tony explained… ‘you just don’t know how an audience will react’

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      • chrisH says:

        Lets see how many of the Brookside accents from drama show up in the QT audience tonight.
        Grangemouth next week then?

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        • chrisH says:

          Tonights agenda?
          Thatch and the dockers strike-enquiry 1971 findings.
          Hillsborough
          Toxteth riots
          Derek Hatton
          Boris Johnsons quote from 2003
          The role of Lord MacAlpine in the Ken Bigley tragedy…bloody Tories again.
          Cilla Blacks rewrite of Liverpool Lullaby…you`ll get a wrap from your babyfather.
          The marvellousness of Grayson, McCartney, Burnham… and maybe a class action against Fergie for being harsh on Steven Gerrard.
          Oh, who cares anyway!

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      • Roland Deschain says:

        ‘you just don’t know how an audience will react’

        Except we all know exactly how the audience will react.

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    • uncle bup says:

      Don’t forget Farron – pretrendy leftie, full of himself/ shit; and worse – with ambitions to run his party.

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    • BBC Heart Labour says:

      Just tuned in. Heard Hitchens talk and get cleverly interrupted as he made his important points so that there’s no clapping from the audience. Well done DD, your interruption was perfectly timed. Then listened to the Tory. Immediately heard the planted lefties moan loudly when fracking was mentioned (are they pavlov dogs trained to wail at the sound of the word fracking?) Then heard Ms Flint immediately start off on a personal attack on Cameron and the audience now silent, clinging onto every word. Tuned out and thank god didn’t have to listen to little boy Jones, Business as usual in QT towers.

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      • Seek the Truth says:

        As soon as I found out earlier in the day that that little pipsqueak Jones and that awful harridan, Flint, were on QT, I knew I would not be able to watch it. And you are so right about DD and the efforts to which he goes to make sure that only the lefties get applauded. Is the studio audience really so stupidly unaware of what is going on and how they are having their strings pulled?

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  41. frk says:

    http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/birminghams-crime-gangs-fund-terrorists-6225309…if this is what birmingham is like now,i dread to think what it will be like in 20 years time,just horrific

       17 likes

    • Old Goat says:

      Just think – you will be able to get there a few minutes more quickly to experience it for yourselves, once HS2 is steamrollered through.

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    • Invicta 1066 says:

      How do you do it? I have written a résumé of the first six pages of Wednesday’s Birmingham Mail (I have the written edition ) covering the criminal gangs, drugs crime terrorist funding, female mutilation, forced marriage up 400% etc. and asked why the BBC Midlands Today has items on eels & the River Teme but has ignored this report.
      I have posted my comment four times, starting yesterday, only for it to apparently vanish into the ether.
      Anyway the important thing is that you have got it on this site. so well done..
      I wonder if this commentwill also vanish?

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  42. AsISeeIt says:

    I note Lefty comedian Alan Davies has been forced to consume a large and expensive slice of humble pie

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/lord-mcalpine-twitter-alan-davies-2487126

    And this just another socialist luvvie weaned on anti-Thatcher bile, signed up to the BBC, and now addicted to gallons of Licence Fee flavour champers.

    Trying pissing this one away through Ed Miliband’s letter box, Alan.

    But let’s not get carried away – his fine should be recouped by just about a QI or two.

    Fair’s fair. I quite enjoyed Jonathan Creek

    As for the dumbed down QI Alan Davies – he is tiresome.

    His persona simply designed to flatter the God-like pronoucements of the script reading quizmaster – thereby enabling the extracurricular utterances of the ever unctious ubiquitous Stepehen Fry.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Always interested when that bastion of right wing tabloid trash seems first out the traps on such things.
      Maybe it has sunk in that their ideological mates at the BBC may just be scooping them up in one of their Graun/#HackedOff trawls round the downtown end of the media sewer along with those they share rackspace?

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    • chrisH says:

      All our license fee recycled then.
      Surely it`s an FoI jobbie this one….it`s our money, he`s sending to Italy.
      Any chance of an FoI about how many schools, colleges, nurseries the BBC used for Savile in his reign ?
      CRB checks?…charity starts from areas where children were “educated” or “healed”?
      I`d like to know…innocent face!

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    • Doyle says:

      ‘As for the dumbed down QI Alan Davies – he is tiresome.’
      QI used to be okay before it descended into lots of shouting, talking over one another and those unfunny jokes that last forever. Davies obviously thinks he’s funnier than he is – truly a legend in his own lunchtime. Davies is the biggest culprit on QI but I think it started with Never Mind the Buzzcocks – the unfunny jokes that go on and on – it became virtually unwatchable. Would I Lie To You appears to be going the same way. I suppose this is what happens when you get 5 or more lefty gobshites on a show, it’s like having 5 Owen Jones’s talking on top of one another.

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  43. Will all end in tears says:

    Couple of interesting footballing matters just now on 5 Live.

    UEFA to investigate the “racist” chanting by the CSKA Moscow fans in last night’s game with Man City.

    Note that – “racist”

    Now, given that Moscow have vehemently denied the allegation, shouldn’t that be “alleged racist” chants.

    Or have the self-appointed judges at the Beeb already made up their minds?

    Then we have Hollande’s proposed super tax on French football clubs.

    A spokesperson claimed it was harsh.

    The Beeb’s Dominic (don’t know his surname, and can’t waste a single gram of f**k finding out) boldly attacked;

    “Well you can afford an extra 5% can’t you?”

    Ah, if ever there was a more apt mantra for the Socialist……

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  44. Guest Who says:

    If Comical Ali could be channeled as a pre wall-falling tractor statistician, he’d have a promising career as the 148th BBC PR munchkin, or even get invited to walk the highest corridors of market-ratedom:

    http://tradingaswdr.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/move-on-listeners.html
    In truthiness, one suspects that, as with most things uniquely BBC finance-wise, what goes up can only stay up when it comes to pegging the rates & bonusses?
    One might also hazard that Radio 4, and indeed the rest of the BBC is praying for a great deal more when they get Mr. Miliband back in.

       5 likes

  45. Ron Todd says:

    Millionaire lefty ‘comedian’ Russel Brand on Newsnights claimed he does not approve of disparity of wealth.

       20 likes

    • chrisH says:

      Imagine any country where the likes of Brand, Ross, Savile and Self are seen as seers and prophets-or even listened to, given media platforms to show us their drug-induced incontinence pads, by way of “wisdom” or “edgy comment”.
      Far better to carry their turds in a shoe box and seek a fridge to pin it on.
      It makes no sense at all to let the likes of Brand spout their weirdities…any Taliban fighter could only laugh, and sharpen his Stanley.
      Wrong message…the BBC are deliberately making this nation a target for anyone with a moral compass-no matter how haywire it is.

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  46. Alex says:

    Funny how the BBC always seems to get its hands on politically correct, meaningless crap like this:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-24645100

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  47. #88 says:

    On the 11th September, Professor Sir Brian Jarman published a report on historic mortality rates in the NHS, identifying that Britain had mortality rates much higher than many western countries. It identified worrying failings in a number of trusts, which the report named.

    The report was the lead in most of the UK’s media, including Channel 4 News who devoted a large proportion of their 7pm bulletin to the outrage.

    One news outlet stood alone in ignoring Jarman’s report…the BBC. They, astonishingly, by-passed it completely. Perhaps for the BBC the clue was that the key word was ‘historic’, i.e. it examined mortality rates that had occurred in Labour’s time.

    Today, another month, another report on NHS failings emerges. This time the Tories can be implicated and the BBC are wasting no time in fully reporting the story…on all of their platforms, together with the names of under-performing trusts which they highlight on their web-site.

    The way that the BBC have handled these two reports provides clear evidence of their bias and corruption, pure and simple.

    If Hall is serious about ensuring that the BBC provides balance in their reporting, in line with their Charter obligations, first thing in the morning he should call for an explanation from his editors. I suspect though that he won’t and he will prove himself to be another laissez-faire lump of lard.

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  48. AsISeeIt says:

    From the people who brought you ‘unique’ ‘imparial in our genes’ and ‘stepping aside’….

    Let’s give it up large for…..

    Tony Hall backs right of BBC execs to have second jobs ‘within reason’

    [Scare quotes his. Or the Guardian’s. Frankly who can tell?]

    http://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/oct/22/tony-hall-bbc-executives-second-jobs

    Talking of catch phrases and looking at that naf photo of the DG… Tony reminds me of someone….

    Yes, as I live and breath… it’s Roy Walker to a tee

    http://www.ukgameshows.com/ukgs/Roy_Walker

    ‘Hall revealed that 20 out of the BBC’s 300 senior top brass had rejected his proposal for a £150,000 cap on severance payments’

    So the BBC top brass are obviously not as Lefty-minded as we thought – innocent face.

    ‘Asked by Labour MP Ben Bradshaw whether it was appropriate for BBC executives to have a second job, Hall said: “It is good within reason for people within the BBC to do something outside of the BBC, especially things that are unpaid and charitable.’

    ‘Lisa Opie, the BBC’s controller of business, knowledge and daytime, founded a cafe business called Here in Berkhamsted in Hertfordshire. In blog posts since removed from the cafe’s website, Opie said it had been “non-stop … 18-hour days, rapid phone calls squeezed in between proper job meetings, hurried decisions about banquettes and stressy calls to the VAT man on the train.”‘

    Bless.

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  49. AsISeeIt says:

    Whoops they did it again….?

    http://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/oct/22/tony-hall-bbc-executives-second-jobs

    ‘Hall said he “very much” hopes a Panorama investigation into how Comic Relief invests its funds will be shown following reports that it had been shelved by the corporation.’

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  50. George R says:

    INBBC, as usual, speaking up for Islamic jihadists who are determined to behead us, the ‘kaffur’, as they term us in their Islamic texts.

    But, of course, INBBC CENSORS out that part of the message from Islamic jihadist, “Talha” (real name Taufail Ahmed, ex-Tower Hamlets, of Bangladeshi and a Muslim), which urges Muslims in Britain to behead us, the kaffur.

    ‘Jihadwatch’ INFORMS us of this; INBBC CENSORS it:-

    ‘JihadWatch’:-

    “In the video, Talha says: ‘I call upon you today all the Muslim men in Britain, especially the people of Tower Hamlets, in the city I was born in… I call upon you to come to jihad, and raise the banner, humiliate the disbelievers, cut the necks of the disbelievers, and establish the dar-al-Islam (house of Islam).’”

    -from ‘JihadWatch’-

    “London-born Muslim calls upon ‘all the Muslim men in Britain’ to ‘come to jihad’ and ‘cut the necks of the disbelievers'”

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/10/london-born-muslim-i-call-upon-you-today-all-the-muslim-men-in-britainto-come-to-jihad-and-cut-the-n.html

    Instead, INBBC concludes its propaganda on the deceased Islamic jihadist, not by discussing the horrific nature of his islamic jihad message, and his murderous activities in Somalia, but by speculating on whether he should have been killed!

    See INBBC’s propaganda bias on Islamic jihad here, and INBBC self-censorship:-

    “British links to al-Shabab revealed”
    By Dominic Casciani and Secunder Kermani
    BBC News.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24639648

    British links to al-Shabab revealed
    By Dominic Casciani and Secunder Kermani
    BBC News

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    • George R says:

      Is it INBBC’s political position that no Muslims who undertakes Islamic jihad against we kafirs has any personal responsibility for their actions, but that they are to be understood as being ‘brainwashed’ or ‘misled’?!

      For INBBC on ISLAM:-

      “Separating the Kafirs from the Muslims”

      [Opening excerpt]:-

      “When the al Shabaab jihadi group from Somalia attacked the mall in Kenya, they gathered the crowd together and asked who were Muslims and let them go. According to the media, they then started killing the non-Muslims who were left. But non-Muslims is not the word what the terrorists would have used. No, they would have called them Kafirs (actually they would have called them the Arabic plural of kafir, kuffar. Kafirs is the standard English plural form).

      “Why did members of al Shabaab do this? Why did they ask the Muslims to leave and keep the Kafirs and start killing them? Let’s start with the word terrorists. “Members of al Shabaab are not terrorists, they are jihadists or mujahedeen. That is what they call themselves.

      “So what difference does it make which words we use? Non-Muslim or Kafir? Terrorists, militants, jihadists or mujahedeen? It makes all the difference in the world. You cannot think precisely with imprecise words and a Kafir is much more than non-Muslim.

      “The word ‘non-Muslim’ does not imply anything, except not being a believer in Islam.

      “Kafir, on the other hand, has enormous implications. Kafir is the actual word that the Koran uses for a non-Muslim. Indeed, one of the many remarkable things about the Koran is that over half of its text is devoted to the Kafir. ”

      http://www.politicalislam.com/blog/separating-the-kafirs-from-the-muslims/

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    • George R says:

      No doubt INBBC will give the same empathetic political treatment to Islamic jihadist, Lewthwaite, who is engaged in murderous campaigns to kill us, the kafirs.

      ( 1 min video clip on Lewthwaite.)

      Also:-

      “UK Muslima and jihad terror leader wrote poem to bin Laden: ‘we are left to continue what you started…to instill terror into kuffar'”

      http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/10/uk-muslima-and-jihad-terror-leader-wrote-poem-to-bin-laden-we-are-left-to-continue-what-you-startedt.html

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      • chrisH says:

        Following that woman who wrote a similar jihad poem last year, and nearly got in trouble for it-I can only assume that it suffers in translation in the original classical Arabic…oh, it`s darling!
        More poetry prizes for Kabul and Islamabad please…I insist we pay for this!
        Ka`a ba Khan…I than`yew!

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