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Will BBC-NUJ re-name its ‘Media City’ as ‘Mandela City’ now?
-Just to make even clearer its political affiliations?
“Nelson Mandela death: UK streets named Mandela”
By Brian Wheeler,
BBC News Magazine.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20663509
While I’m on, I should note that Evan(?) couldn’t resist bringing “climate change” into discussion of the East Coast floods. Unfortunately for Evan, although the tidal/wind surge further up the East cost was higher than 60 years ago, at the Thames barrier the surge was lower. Moreover, as David Rooke, the Environment Agency’s director of flood and coastal risk, stated, the designers of the barrier actually “learned the lessons” of 60 years ago (how unlike today’s experts in education, crime et al) and took into account the continuous tipping of the land of Eastern England. In other words, the results of the wind/tidal surge were due to geological factors and little (if anything) to do with “climate change”.
Could someone point me in the direction of some more extensive coverage? This is all I was able to find on the BBC (doesn’t include hours of TV and Radio!):
Nelson Mandela death: South Africa and world mourn
Crowds Celebrate Mandelas Life
Out of Darkness – The Triumph of Nelson Mandela
Mandela -Ban made the Legend
Obituary – Nelson Mandela
Floral tribute to Nelson Mandela
How a ban on Mandela’s picture sealed his legend
Nelson Mandela – World Leaders Tributes
Mandela Remembering the Man
South African Papers Pay Tribute
Nelson Mandelas Death – Swetos Sorrow
Key moments in Nelson Mandela’s life
Mandela sworn in as president
Mandela in his own words
Mandela’s autobiography was smuggled out of prison
Interview: Mandela’s first steps to freedom
Outlook: Mandela, my friend
Nelson Mandela – As it Happened
Nelson Mandela – In Pictures
Mandela Street – Why are so many UK roads named after anti-apartheid leader?
Nelson Mandela Memories
Nelson Mandela Global Legacy
South African President Jacob Zuma announces Mandela’s death
Singing to celebrate Mandela’s life
Dancing and celebrations for Mandela in Soweto
US President Obama leads global tributes
Key global figures pay tribute to Nelson Mandela
How news of Nelson Mandela’s death was reported globally
‘Never forget for the rest of your life – you are now free’
How Mandela touched everyday people
Mandelas Footsteps Out of Conflict
Nelson Mandela’s 27 years in prison
Apartheid: 46 years in 90 seconds
Nelson Mandela death: Somerset’s part in South African history
Nelson Mandela death: Northern Ireland leaders pay tribute
Mandelas Ties to Northern Ireland
Nelson Mandela: How a reporter seized his moment
Scottish Tributes to Nelson Mandela
Nelson Mandela death: Scottish leaders pay tribute
Scotland’s newspapers on Friday – Mandela
Why did Nelson Mandela thank Glasgow?
Remembering Him
Milestones in Video and Pictures
Destroyer of Apartheid
Life Story – How Nelson Mandela Inspired the arts in Wales
Hain Leads Welsh Tributes to Mandela
Parliament Plans Mandela Tribute
Queen Leads Nelson Mandela Tributes
Blair – ‘Mandela very down to Earth’
How Mandela Impacted UK Politics
Mandela – ‘Played Key Role at Critical Time’
Mandela in Parliament
Oucast to Hero
Cameron Pays Tribute to Hero Mandela
Mandela AIDS taboo breaker
Mandelas Ties to Northern Ireland
Yep no mention that the IRA trained the ANC in bomb making, Then Mandela signed off on the Church St bombing that used IRA technology.
Just wait until next year at this time. It’ll be “it’s one year since Mandiba (oh yes!) died: how has the world coped? Has S. Africa recovered? Today interviews Peter Hain on the anniversary and the legacy”.
Still-here`s hoping a few windsurfers like Hain will join the Nelster on that funeral pyre…who knows, it could burn for sometime if all those lefties carry out their threat to self-immolate( being the BBC, we can suggest it, and see if the prayer flags come out in salute).
I`m happy to sing a duet with Winnie-“Ring of Tyres”…as long as Polly is among the first to throw herself upon assorted faggots should grief overcome them all.
From our own correspondent:
Nelson mandela fest continues.
this is beyond satire.
Nelson Mandela has begun his “fast”?
It`s not enough that he`s dead-but his death is a fast in protesting the Godawful Peter Gabriels “Beako”.
Phil Silvers deserved better!
As Mandela mania continues, BBC-NUJ has no space to report this in London, apparently:-
“UK: Members of ‘Muslim Patrol’ jailed for threatening people not following Sharia”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/12/uk-members-of-muslim-patrol-jailed-for-threatening-people-not-following-sharia.html
The old “Good day to bury bad news” line coming into play I expect.
Do you seriously believe that this matter would have been reported whether or not Mandela was dead?
BBC-NUJ’s OTT Mandela fest.
http://www.tvforum.co.uk/thenewsroom/bbc-news-mandela-coverage-39662/
I value, and quote form this source a fair bit. And despite clear empathies, he can be deliciously waspish at times.
However, his latest set betrays certain turns of phrase that show how easy a word or too can reveal a mindset.
http://tradingaswdr.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/pfui.html
‘An unholy trio of parliamentarians today ganged up on Lord Patten’
That and the ‘Krazy’ suggest he thinks the Trust Chairman is hard done by in being actually asked what the heck is going on. I beg to differ.
http://tradingaswdr.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/regulator.html
Whittingdale’s Rat Pack on the Culture Select Committee
Not in the Vegas sense, I gather. Still, they at least can draw attention to the stacking of certain types of person in positions of media power.
However, I did like this one:
http://tradingaswdr.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/anticipation.html
‘Within ten minutes or so, I imagine there was a queue of correspondents outside the studio, wishing to opine. ‘
Opining being the new ‘news’. With pining being the ever-present ‘analysis’ in this case.
‘BBC News now is often more about impact, than information.’
Given the latter is what we’re meant to get along with ‘edukashun’, it seems at least a 50% reduction in licence fee warranted right there.
Tone & crew must be soooo proud how well they are doing now they’ve hired enough new clones to iron out the kinks.
Anita annand want your thoughts about Nelson after any answers. Do ring in.
I would but .. they would be so mortified I d get cut off.
anyway …it’s a good job that Nelson Mandela was imprisoned back then instead of now.
I can’t imagine he’d be such an inspirational figure if he only had a 3 month suspended sentence with 80 hours of community service, can you?
Bit off topic but is any one else worries about how clearly left wing peter oborne is? His mandela article is appaling, and he even celebrated a “brussels slap down” of a uk prime minister! Sometimes I wonder if the tory party wasn’t infiltrated by marxists following major’s take over.
Peter Oborne is an anti-American and thus pro-Iranian right-winger.
Oborne is a curates egg.
Great on the EU, the venal politicos.
Crap on Islam, and acts as a hired gun for it would
As for Turkey in the EU?…imagine that`ll be his problem.
Sense he enjoys his raki at the Turks Head, based on some strange late-night showings on the telly…but Islam prevents drinking, so who`s to say?
A few years ago I remember watching a documentary (I can’t remember the subject) and Jack Straw was being interviewed.
The programme had nothing to do with islam which is why a sentence he said has stuck in my mind.
Instead of saying “I hope” or “Touch wood” or “God willing” he said the latter in Arabic, “inch allah”. And yet the programme had nothing to do with islam, religion or arabs.
I was wondering if anyone else saw it so we can track it down and play it to him over and over. Obviously he has converted.
And remember children, in 2015 Vote for islam. Vote Labour!
Here’re some real corkers:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/rs/war/islam/quiz/q60304712/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/rs/prejudice/islam/quiz/q51690310/
The equivalent Christian questions are either negative about Jesus (cursing a fig tree) or have loads of questions about Jews. Obviously the beeboids know nothing about Christianity but know all the anti-Jewish retoric that was beaten into them during their interview at an Oxford careers fair.
joed
That really is indoctrination – and some of it is totally false.
But it reflects not just the BBC. “ByteSize” is just a set of revision notes – covering the official curriculum for use in British schools. That is – all our children are being taught these lies, by direction of the Sec of State.
http://www.tvforum.co.uk/thenewsroom/bbc-news-mandela-coverage-39662/page-10
look at the pro beeb responses. downright nasty as the pages go on.
Tonality aside, they also read as if from the hand of every CECUTT officer I have ever dealt with, up to ‘Director of Belief’ and beyond.
Some clearly feel that any criticism is akin to a personal attack and needs to be erased.
How anyone pro-BBC can hope to sway folk back into trusting the BBC with such arrogant delusion would be funny if not rather sinister that they seem assured they will prevail.
BBC-NUJ: predictably pro-BALLS still.
1.) BBC-NUJ:
“Ed Balls accuses George Osborne of economic complacency”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25236325
2.) ‘Daily Mail’:-
“Is Red Ed sharpening his axe for Balls?”
By SIMON HEFFER.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/debatesearch/article-2519641/Is-Red-Ed-sharpening-axe-Balls.html#ixzz2mnToZ5jm
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BBC-NUJ Mandela ‘news’ service:-
“Nelson Mandela death: Daily funeral cortege planned for Pretoria”
(-and BBC-NUJ will dutifully ‘report’ it, daily, via its myriads of staff).
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-25280920
Anybody opening a book on how many Beeboid staff will take the trip to South Africa next week, despite the fact that there will be wall-to-wall coverage on numerous other outlets in South Africa?
Who will be first off the plane there:
Huw Edwards, or John Simpson?
Lines to be honed:-
‘The scenes here in Pretoria are quite extraordinary, quite remarkable, and, it has to be said, very moving’.
Sorry, but my money would be on George Alagiah – much more diversely acceptable. Simpson will be there too though “for balance”.
Yes, ALAGIAH must be favourite.
Have been very interested in a couple of FT articles on the economy by Stephanie Flanders this week, one before the Autumn Statement and the other in the weekend FT today.
Overall, I’d say much more positive and definitely more balanced in her outlook than she ever was when at the BBC, I’d say.
‘more positive and definitely more balanced in her outlook’
Maybe a genetic change took place when she left a place of work where no authoritarian controls from above ever filter down to influence editorial?
Apparently.
JPMorgan is paying her a lot of money to be more positive.
It must be an eye-watering amount, as what the BBC was paying her to be negative before, was none too shabby either.
In other news, maybe A. Journalist could share the secret of how much buys you what in such a respected profession?
And the value it ends up with as a consequence?
£400K pa to predict if the next version of the Greek bailout will work, and that JPMorgan should get a piece of the action.
The BBC online news site ‘gets it about right’ for their Mandela coverage…
Bias? What bias?
The stuff of legend, I thought this was fascinating… Thatcher’s letter to Botha urging the release of Mandela in 1985. You will never see this kind of stuff from the BBC.
Click to access 6D1A4F11C9AD4BD58A3493B01077D862.pdf
Indeed not. Instead, you get things like Katty Kay tweeting this:
So ‘One of the biggest criticisms of…Thatcher…’ would appear to be a) more partisan than objective and b) originating pretty much from the BBC itself.
Not sure what is in those genes, but it stinks.
yep! but the old “maaan of peace” wouldn t renounce violence …. not on BBC news today
Is Lec Wallenska (sic) still alive?
Seemingly so.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/poland/10377632/Lech-Walesa-will-never-return-to-London-after-being-searched-at-Heathrow.html
IIRC correctly it was the Newsnight immediately after Thatcher’s death when the word “divisive” was used to enable impartial coverage to begin, having had the sympathetic comments early on.
Now, I can’t stomach watching the BBC’s excess coverage of Mandela so I need other people’s help here: have any negative comments been made about Mandela’s life, on the BBC?
That would be about as likely as the Pope quoting Aleister Crowley during a sermon.
Even when the BBC attempts balance in a report about a US issue, they still can’t do it right.
US jobless rate falls to five-year low in November
Indeed, Wall Street is doing very well. At the very end of the report, we do get an admission that wages for the masses aren’t doing quite so well. The rich get richer, the poor get poorer, and the Beeboids who usually squeal about the horrific dangers of income inequality are utterly silent. They don’t see this is as a problem at the moment because a Democrat is President, and especially because it means to them their beloved Obamessiah is saving the country. So we don’t get a word about what this actually means. No inset “Analysis”, no “correspondents say”.
The real problem, though, is with this bit:
I suppose we should give the BBC credit for this baby step towards honesty, but that’s like giving a failing student a passing grade because they managed to answer one question correctly at last and we want to make them feel good. Why do I say the BBC isn’t being completely honest? Here’s why, direct from the Bureau of Labor Statistics:
“Largely reflects”. The BBC spins it away as “some federal workers” were counted, so you don’t really grasp the full effect. What’s worse is that the number of long-term unemployed – i.e. those not counted as being in the workforce – is pretty much the same as it was at this point in 2009. No change, no recovery, really.
Stagnation covered by a nice fat fig leaf of Wall Street improvement. I’m actually one of those who believes somewhat in the trickle-down effect, but not when the improvement is so narrowly-focused. Lots of part-time workers are now out of work, so of course the average hours will go up a little bit. And since more people are out of the labor force altogether, the official numbers don’t quite represent reality. They never do, of course, but it’s the BBC’s duty to present the numbers accurately and not interpret them in a manner which misrepresents that reality.
But hey, apparently federal government employment is down another 7000, adding to the decline which is up to 92,000 now for the year. The Sequester which Mark Mardell described as “cruel dismemberment“, works. I guess it didn’t destroy the economy like he and the BBC expected. Again, no analysis on that score provided, even though we’re a month away from having to go through that all over again.
Never mind that we’re going to see probably 10% of those new retail jobs go away after the holiday sales season, and never mind that about 15% of these new jobs are in health care and social services, i.e. government subsidized to some degree, or in anticipation of it. I’m sure it’s pure tin-foil hat speculation to suggest that much more than a quarter of the jobs added in November (if we include all those government workers returning) are not going to help the recovery at all, so of course we can’t expect the BBC to provide that kind of analysis.
The BBC does provide some figures which definitely aren’t promising, but again, no analysis or opinion allowed on them, like they do allow for the suggestion that the Fed might finally rein in the money-printing.
Spending is up on utilities and rent, while salaries haven’t improved? Not good.
Not good. Again, no analysis, no expert opinion quoted, like they do elsewhere in the report where some genius describes the labor market as “buoyant”. See, it’s all a matter of perspective. The way I see it, we’re treading water. The BBC, of course, reacts the way their fellow travelers in the media do. It’s the Pavlovian response to an increase in jobs, regardless of what it actually means.
The rich get richer, the rest of us either barely tread water or get poorer. And the BBC trumpets it as a recovery because a Democrat is in charge.
Meanwhile, in another part of Africa, INBCC relegates the Islamic persecution and murders of Christians:-
1.’Jihadwatch’-
“‘They are slaughtering us like chickens’: Thousands of Christians in Central African Republic flee Muslim attackers, take refuge at airport guarded by French soldiers.”
[Opening excerpt]:-
“Nigeria, Egypt, Syria, Pakistan, Indonesia, the Central African Republic: the Muslim persecution of Christians has attained global proportions while the world wrings its hands over ‘Islamophobia’.”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/12/they-are-slaughtering-us-like-chickens-thousands-of-christians-in-central-african-republic-flee-musl.html
2.) INBBC:-
“Central African Republic: French troops expand operations”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-25281959
December 7, 1941: a day that will live in infamy. And completely ignored by the BBC’s US & Canada page. Get off your biased ass, Daniel Nasaw.
I’m making this a full post.
Ah, but it was a different time.
And some historical events now are more historic.
Or something.
I do recall Adm. Yamamoto noting the wisdom of pissing off sleeping giants.
The BBC is big, but the silent majority is bigger.
So while Barry & Mich pack their Factor 50 and ‘Bookie Wookie of Platitudes for the Masses’ before jumping on AF1 with Katty & Crew for the sombre jolly tour, it may be that more than a few don’t forget or forgive.
There even may come a time when forgetting stuff like this eventually proves the last straw the camel that is uniquely funded national treasuredom gets to prop up.
THe BBC pluggs Jihadi Charities –
Did anyone see the Newsnight 8 minute film in which a BBC reporter accompanied a British “aid convoy” headed to the most dangerous parts of Syria.?
Aid for Syria Convoy is, in fact, managed by charities that many might justifiably regard as “extremist”: One Nation, Al Fatiha Global and Aid4Syria.
These charities regularly organize fundraising events with Islamist themes, and invite radical preachers as guests. In mid-November, for instance, the Aid for Syria convoy ran an event named “O’Ummah [Community of Muslims], Wake Up and Rise”, starring as its key speakers, Zahir Mahmood and Moazzam Begg.
read the full article at http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4077/bbc-syria-charities
A ‘charity’ you say? That’s good.
Jihadi too? Doubleplusgood.
Embedding opportunity for the right sort (ie: complicit) of media? The triple!
I see ‘charity’ & ‘the BBC’ together I know exactly what to expect. Even when that bizarre bear is involved.
‘”a doctor from Manchester, a pharmacist from Halifax and a restaurant owner from West Yorkshire.”
Pillars of the community, no doubt. And medical ‘men’ the staff and patrons of Glasgow Airport doubtless relieved they opted for the overland route.
Now they are well clear of their generous hosts and possible less than generous displeasure at any actual, adverse journalism, beyond the PR puffery provided by the world’s most credulous media monopoly, I’d be keen to hear the BBC’s thoughts on the quoted claims vs. clearly evidenced testimony of such as our Jameel.
When they are ready.
The BBC likes to be even handed. That is to ignore the slaying of Christians around the world or to use an equivallence.
This is the BBC definition of evenhandedness.
A liberal left/proIslamic agenda means exactly that.
At least the French are not afraid to intervene in strength. Spin away BBC. You know you have to.
The French use military force against Mohammedans, yet somehow there’s no fretting over this causing jihad to come home to France. I wonder why?
Another reason why BBC-NUJ politically endorses Mandela?:-
“Nelson Mandela: the Islam connection”
By Cheradenine Zakalwe.
http://islamversuseurope.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/nelson-mandela-islam-connection.html
Bury Mandela?
Surely he will be embalmed and on display at broadcasting house, between Josef Goebbels Studio 1 and the Bin Laden multi-faith reflection room.
Or perhaps cryogenics is the answer?
Free -eeze Nelson Mandela
Bury?…why not?
The Black Pudding would feel at home amongst his people!
Surely they`ve named SOMETHING after him by now?
He`s some new age prayer wheelie, so I understand amongst the weirdies of the witchy woman community.
I’m catching up on the BBC coverage of Mandela and their continued smearing of Margaret Thatcher third hand as I don’t bother with any BBC output now apart from the occasional glimse at their website.
However this is of interest as it will undoubtedly be completely ignored by the BBC.
This is a document that has been released by the current regime in South Africa and shows Baroness Thatcher’s true role in the events surrounding SA during the 80s.
Click to access 6D1A4F11C9AD4BD58A3493B01077D862.pdf
Contrast the truth with the BBC’s revisionist re-writing.
“Nelson Mandela death: Tories ‘right on South Africa'”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25266180
Apparently the BBC allowed the racist bag Abbott on TV last night to continue the smear campagn.
But then what do you expect from far left vermin.
It is not as if it it needs ‘revealing’: De Klerk and Mandela himself openly stated her role, as have several cabinet/ministry/embassy staff etc, but as you say, that BBC article, despite the title (big surprise really even with the stealth quotes) is just an invite in to read how nasty the evil out of kilter with global opinion the Tories were.
Listening to the World Service earlier as they tell me about 350(or whatever) “British People” who have joined battle re the taking on of old Assad-didn`t he duet with Sting, until one of them was past his “use-by/sell out” date?
I imagine that sanitary towels and Sanatogen were sent along…no Korans or fluffy beard bushies surely…and codger ramps and a mere smattering of “vulnerable young men” too, I`d expect?
Very next soundbite?…yes, the generosity of the “British People” in plying charities with money overseas.
See what they did there?…The British people are generous, but happy too to fight the enemy of freedom wherever they find it”.
If only we white losers would rejoice at our reps in Syria…ha`way the Lads as Jimmy Carter used to say…worraprik!
bBC Points West showing their pro Labour bias with a story about the selection of a new Labour candidate in a Tory held Bristol marginal. They also omitted to name the previous candidate who was deselected for unpaid parking fines.
I don’t recall any such stories about new candidates for local Tory or UKIP consituencies…
BBC Whitewashes Islamist Charities Supporting Jihadis
BBC’s leading current affairs program, Newsnight recently broadcast an eight-minute film in which a BBC reporter accompanied a British “aid convoy” headed to the most dangerous parts of Syria.
The Aid for Syria convoy, comprised of half a dozen ambulances, travelled over three thousand miles through Europe and Turkey before finally crossing the border into Syria, purportedly to deliver food, shelter and medical supplies. The journalist Catrin Nye markedly noted the diverse background of their convoy’s participants, introducing a “a doctor from Manchester, a pharmacist from Halifax and a restaurant owner from West Yorkshire.”
During the broadcast, the BBC did not, however, reveal the names of the charities involved with the convoy. The Aid for Syria Convoy is, in fact, managed by charities that many might justifiably regard as “extremist”: One Nation, Al Fatiha Global and Aid4Syria.
These charities regularly organize fundraising events with Islamist themes, and invite radical preachers as guests. In mid-November, for instance, the Aid for Syria convoy ran an event named “O’Ummah [Community of Muslims], Wake Up and Rise”, starring as its key speakers, Zahir Mahmood and Moazzam Begg.
http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/bbc-promotes-extremists-charities
Another example of the BBC’s use of the word “conservative” when referring to Islamic authorities but also their use of kid gloves in accepting the Iranian state’s explanation for blurring images of a woman cuddling (in this case EU gravy train rider Baroness Ashton):
Cuddling is immodest?
So nothing to do with the fact that it’s a misogynist society that wouldn’t dare show women actively cuddling a man? Because the photo (unblurred) shows a woman covered in all the sensitive places.
Friday was the biggest day for news our region has seen for some time, thanks to Thursday’s extraordinary weather. The Yorkshire coast had the worst storm surge for sixty years, with Whitby and Scarborough inundated. In Leeds the high winds lifted a woman off her feet and put her in hospital. In Auckley the roof was blown off Hayfield School. There were countless power cuts (we were off for five hours here in Braithwell), a man on a mobility scooter was killed by a falling tree, a large building collapsed in Hull, there were floods all over the place, and transport links were badly disrupted.
I put the BBC’s ‘Look North’ on expecting to see a full roundup of the day’s local news, but to my astonishment the programme devoted almost fifteen of its 27 minutes to Nelson Mandela, with the Yorkshire news, sport, and weather squeezed into the remaining twelve minutes.
This was a crucial day for regional news. Local stories were of immediate interest and importance to so many of us. It was the sort of day when local TV news should come into its own; yet on that day ‘Look North’ failed lamentably to live up to its mission statement: to bring us ‘the latest news from around Yorkshire’. The BBC national news covered Mr Mandela’s death at great length and in more than adequate detail. We didn’t want or need yet more of it from ‘Look North’, even with the flimsy pretext that it was ‘the Yorkshire Mandela story’.
Luckily I’d recorded ‘Calendar’ on ITV, and was pleased to see a good comprehensive set of reports about the storm’s aftermath, with a bit of other news as well, and with only three minutes out of 29 devoted to Mr Mandela.
I’ve thought for some time now that Look North suffers from unbalanced editorial judgement, but this edition, with its total overkill on the Mandela story at the expense of vital local information, was the limit. I shan’t bother with the programme anymore. My ‘series link’ has been deleted.
Bill
You have to remember that any BBC local news editor with ambition has his eyes set on the prize of a national news position, and is in a competition with peers to show who is most ‘on message’. They aren’t really that interested in you.
Comrade Mason unleashed. Was he ever restrained? Certainly not at the BBC.
I’ll just leave this here, shall I? Mr Mason, you’ll recall, is a former member of the Trotskyist group Workers’ Power, a fan of “class war,” a booster of Occupy, and more recently the BBC’s Newsnight economics editor and the culture and digital editor of Channel 4 News. He is of course a champion of the great thinker Laurie Penny.
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Knackered link, sorry…
http://davidthompson.typepad.com/davidthompson/2013/12/correcting-your-gameplay-for-the-greater-good.html
The comments are a treat.
Beyond wondering how being a ‘goodass’ may fare outside the studios and parking lots of certain astoundingly uncurious media monopolies, the commercial appeal is also laid bare.
One can see its appeal to certain mind sets. This will only make Ian Katz all the more determined to lure him back with (ironically) promise of even more money.
I’m looking forward to ‘Getting It About Left’, a game about broadcasting empires.
At the beginning all players start off the same, except one which is handed £4Bpa more than the others to ‘compete’ for an audience by all coming up with identical shows like ‘My Celebrity Small Slim Gay Swimming’.
Oh, and the audience can’t engage with any others until they pay that one first.
It’ll be sooooo gripping. Especially with Laurie, Polly, Kevin & Owen doing all the v/o’s as the producers couldn’t find anyone else.
Sorry, slightly off topic. And apologies to our host but, John Redwood MP is requesting comments on his ‘Dairy’ about the future of the BBC.
For those who may wish to contribute here is the link:
http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2013/12/08/funding-the-bbc/#comment-257656
To our host. If this breaks house rules, please accept my apologies and kindly delete this post.
Thank you.
Sorry. That’s ‘diary’.
Less haste.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25255957
This is apparently what passes for economics education from the BBC. The article is about gold, the barbarous relic that no-one cares about anymore from an economic standpoint (unless you’re a western central bank looking to keep the gold price low to stop people realising the levels of inflation caused by QE; a chinese central bank looking to stockpile gold as a prelude to setting the RMB up as the world’s new reserve currency; an asian investor looking to hold an asset that cannot be arbitarily inflated away by rampant government spending; a middle-eastern oil producing nation eyeing alternatives to the petrodollar; etc)
Particularly risible was the graph that showed the inflation adjusted value of gold(!), and the tedious preamble as the scientifically challenged author discussed the periodic table.
A facepalm worthy article, to say the least.
Justin Rowlett, yet another Left-wing ideologue doing business reporting for the BBC. He used to do that silly greenie series of article under the rubric “Ethical Man” (I used to call it “Farcical Man”) where he played at living sustainably and moaning about green this and green that. He also expressed his fascist, totalitarian impulses by wondering if democracy was tiresomely in the way of the green progress he favored. Just like Richard Black. What a shock. Typical that he’s then considered unbiased enough for business reporting.
Okay, now I’ll read the article. 🙂
Er, the fact that gold doesn’t react with much is what makes it interesting. Oh, I see, Rowlett didn’t know that and had to be told, and so wrote this whole piece about it. Well, okay, it’s worth explaining to people like him who didn’t understand.
I agree with Gunn on the tediousness. This should have been relegated to CBBC Newsround, only without the rest of the nonsense about the gold standard.
The US dollar has more or less always been a fiat currency, really, gold standard or no. Even before independence, colonial independent banks issued paper money backed not by gold but by land assets and accrued tax revenue. Benjamin Franklin figured out (NB: pdf file) this kind of paper money would enable growth a very long time ago.
Oh, and the US hasn’t always been on the full gold standard. Why present it as if it’s been a happy constant? That didn’t actually start until after the Gold Rush (you know, when we started to have enough to join the game), although Britain started on it earlier. And FDR and Congress took us off it in 1933 anyway. Value got fixed by the government (always a winning combination, right?) and we got to inflate the value of the Fed’s pile of gold (one of the “many countries” to which Rowlett casually refers), so win-win, I guess. All Nixon really did was stop the fixing, which once more freed up the fiat currency. But, you, know, it’s a US issue so don’t expect the BBC to get it right, especially one of their Left-wing extremists.
It also seems as if Rowlett doesn’t quite grasp the difference between gold as a commodity and as a fixed-rate asset. Maybe he sort of does, as he rambles about mining, but the explanation is half-assed. Do they send Beeboids on proper business or economics courses before letting them loose, or is it only just for broadcasting and the correct structure of a news article?
And finally, spot the missing Chancellor who sold your gold at rock-bottom prices. I guess it would be too much to expect a BBC report with both Nixon and Gordon Brown mentioned in the same context.
Today the BBC are happy to report a 2008 statement (originally from the MOS) by UKIP member Victoria Ayling who said: “I just want to send the lot back, but I can’t say that.”
She was referring to illegal immigrants (sorry the BBC call’s them economic migrants or “seeking a better life” now to confuse the public). Its pretty weak stuff but the BBC are loving this one and no doubt hope the public will join them in damning her. But what the Balkanising Britain Corp don’t get is that it’ll swing MORE votes to UKIP. Simply because UKIP have much more understanding of the public psyche than the BBC has. The Beeb and the political elite who have formed an unholy alliance to make a Britain of their choosing and not ours (and lets not forget they are supposed to be our servants) are losing their grip. UKIP and, yes, even the SNP are a great two fingered salute to the self serving, bullying, hypocrite liberals who reside in London (and now Salford). Time to turn our backs on the liars. It doesn’t wash anymore.
Keep it up BBC every one of your treacherous utterances are now piling on the UKIP votes by the truck load
Hardly hear a thing concerning the Rigby case and yet the BBC and the rest of the media were falling over themselves to reveal the identity of the marine who did everyone a favour and put a bullet through the watermelon of a vile scumbag Taliban piece of excrement. If I were in charge I’d have every single Taliban shot on sight. These despicable lefties pronouncing judgements in their safe little trendy coffee houses would be the first to cry to mummy if the telly-tully-taliban filth were to invade our country.
More and more I view the left as part of the enemy.
Agreed. The liberal left want to ruin this country from within… and on our dime.
Unbelievable, the bbc will only be happy when we are all Muslim and our wives and daughters are covered up and get shot for going to school.
.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-25254555
Agreed. I despise cultural brainwashing like this… odious groveling to a culture that is at total odds to ours. These cultural-ethno sociology types are the worst offenders, in my opinion, as they brainwash our students who then go forth to embrace every culture apart from their own. The BBC seems to be full of ’em, as well.
The hypocrisy is loathsome, though, for as and when they leave these cultures they come back to their cosy Starbucks coffee shops, BMWs and contemporary dance performances and partake of all the freedoms that are blatantly missing in the cultures they’ve been worshiping.
‘Deena says she had her eye on a Western audience from the beginning, another reason why her character wears a hijab, and episodes are written in English.’
Yeah, that’s exactly what I had assumed.
This stuff – so beloved of the BBC – has very little to do with developments in actual Islamic societies.
The muddled thinking involved in lauding this kind of side show led BBC reporters to so badly judge their so-called ‘Arab Spring’
Focus hard on a few female/liberal/westernized Muslims (‘Deena who does not wear a hijab herself’) and the BBC can go on presenting that nice palatable luvvie-dovey happy-clappy image.
BBC1 Andrew Marr facilitating Neil Kinnock lecturing me on Mandela and how ‘if he were in South Africa right now – he would be in the reform wing of the ANC’
And following that quick toot on the BBC Labour mutual vuvuzela Kinnock insists Ed Balls hasn’t dropped an economic bollock and lost the argument – that was just some nasty Tories jeering – oh and the Tory press.
Next up from Andy Pandy’s whicker basket after the Loopy-Loo-EU-Wind-Bag is….. Sting with a Mandela-flavoured bash on his bongos and a new album to flog – something about his native north east…. the demise of the shipbuilding industry, the back-to-back houses, the cobbled streets…. another luvvie pleads: ‘love me, love me, please love me little people…’
Off switch!
‘Sting owns several homes worldwide, including Elizabethan manor house Lake House and its 60 acre country estate near Salisbury, Wiltshire; a country cottage in the Lake District; a New York City flat; a beach house in Malibu; a 600-acre (2.4 km2) estate in Tuscany, Italy; and two properties in London: a flat on the Mall, and an 18th-century terrace house in Highgate. He also owns homes in the Caribbean, including one in the upscale community of Casa de Campo, Dominican Republic. Sting was estimated to have a fortune of £180 million in the Sunday Times Rich List of 2011, making him one of the 10 richest people in the British music industry.’
Gosh, I hope Sting chats with Kinnock as they meet in the green room and that they can shoot the breeze about Mandiba, pension planning and higher rate taxes.
He must be of the few people Kinnock comes into contact with who makes him feel positively impoverished
Sting has moved further from musical relavance with each record he releases. Preferred the more edgy right wing Stewart Copeland, who was the driving force behind the Police and without whom Sting would probably be an NUT shop steward in the North East today.
Nah, he`d be an Ofsted inspector of middle schools in mid-Northumberland…he still lectures us all as if s/he were.
You`re right-Miles and Stewart were the enterprise alright!…shame his Clark Kent stuff was so bloody crap!
Great Post sir!…I followed your line of thought and recognise a fine mind here.
I started at Johnny Marr and ended up at Greg Lake following your path of brains and cultural references…enjoyed it hugely.
Can I suggest that Sting ends up doing a duet with Assads wife by the Wallsend Neptune Shipyard-maybe “Shit building” by Robert (Lieut. Dan) Wyatt…with Tessa telling Tony Blackburn that ” they might be back by Christmas” or such.
Sorry bongo bongo!
Saw comrade Kinnock preaching the old high earners should pay more tax line this morning. Question, not asked by dear Andrew of course, aren’t the Brussels commissars pensions tax free?
Just wondering that’s all (though the phrase “high earners” in his case is somewhat overdone)
Kinnock’s wife was caught rolling in to the EU parliament to sign for her daily allowance and was out an hour later. She did this numerous times to pocket 2 to 300 Euro’s a visit. Neil didn’t seem to have a problem with that. If he did he would have stopped her…wouldn’t he? Up the workers Neil!
I turned on Radio 5 at a random time this morning and it was only two seconds in before the ‘M’-word was used.
I turned off Radio 5 two seconds later.
Choosing a BBC headline for Dummies.
‘Number of pensioners in poverty at a 30-year low.’
No, no good.
‘Child poverty at its lowest level for 25 years’.
Clearly unacceptable.
‘Poverty rate in the UK second lowest since official statistics began’
No, no, no.
Most people classed as being in poverty ‘have job’
That’s the one!
The BBC are trying every criticism in the book in their attempts to impugn the Coalition’s economic progress. The BBC is now into the realms of the ridiculous and of complete and utter Labour propaganda. Beyond belief. If it were Labour in power just now, there would be bells ringing out in churches, sorry mosques, across the land.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-25274886
“Over the past year, thousands of foreign fighters – including about 300 British nationals – have poured into
Syria”
Free Syrian Army – ahem …
“They told us we were not true Muslims,” the commander said.”
just a minute?
Sounds like the exact opposite of Nikki Campbell,
V Drearybyshire S Foglegity or any other BBC waller, droning endlessly on about the ROP and the elusive unicorn of “moderacy” in their tiny sheltered Salford bubble
or the spineless grasping incompetent s from 10 Downing St … doesn t it
as usual, excellent commentary
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/12/syria-jihadists-tell-secular-fighters-they-are-not-true-muslims.html
Ed Balls continues to be on BBC News speed dial despite the widely-held view that he has lost all credibility as Shadow Chancellor.
This time his ‘out of touch’ mantra applied in his trademark incredulous, fast-gobby style to the proposed pay rise for MPs.
‘Out of touch’. The irony is lost forever on Balls and his ever-faithful BBC.
Following his nuclear meltdown after the autumn statement, I think that next time Ed ‘Fukishima’ Balls sits on the bench at HOC, the coalition front bench should just make mushroom shapes with their hands, in the same way the he used to do his flat-lining gestures. Of course, this will then incite howls of outrage from the usual leftie, greenie, save the lesbian whale brigade about belittling the environmental damage etc, led from the front by the B-BBC..
Are there any MPs willing to take this up?
‘Fukushima Balls’ is very appropriate. After all that nuclear plant was problematic because it was out-dated and designed around what we now know to be flawed principles.
If you hear the Westminster Review show (yesterday 7/12/13..Radio 4, 11am) they turn the Balls up into a statesmans manful efforts to be heard above the braying hounds of privilege.
Truly desperate.
Combine that with Lord Puttnams “critique” of Ed Milibands showing so far by Becky Milligan( World At One, today 1.45 or so, Radio 4)…and by the time the five minutes are done-why Puttnam is being steered into the OK Corral that he seemed to have thought was a holding pen for relevancies and nonentities.
Becky needs to stay embedded at the BBC-quite some achievement to get this towering intellectual of Labour thinking into stuffing his own head up his arse, now Xmas is a coming.
One long turkey crowning is the BBC in regard to Project FFS “Let em in”…even if we only get a turd top where a babys head was supposed to be!
Not “Let `em In”…shit Wings!
No…”Ship `em Out”…by John Wayne, Clint and Glen with a red hot brand on their padded fat arses…(fetching new rose pattern available as a tattoo if that seals the deal to eliminate the herd…
At the time of posting, 13.45, the BBC News website’s lead story is still Nelson Mandela related. The homepage also announces that there are further Mandela stories in the ‘Health’ ‘Education’ and ‘Politics’ sections of the site. However in spite of all of this saturation coverage not a single Mandela story is featured in the ‘most read’ top ten.
‘… in spite of all of this saturation coverage not a single Mandela story is featured in the ‘most read’ top ten…
Much more of this and I suspect such listings will go the way of errant HYS threads and quietly vanish, as the nation in theory being spoken for eloquently shows how they feel about being mostly harangued at.
15.29 Update: still no Mandela stories in the ‘Most Read’ top 10 even though although the Mandela story is impossible to ignore on the homepage. Which begs the question why are the BBC still leading with a story that is exciting very little public interest?
However there’s another fishy slavery story this time involving some ‘men’ in Bristol which has made it all the way to number 3. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-25290687
‘…why are the BBC still leading with a story that is exciting very little public interest?’
One possible reason seems to be that an awful lot of them seem to be over there and doing f-all to do with their job spec may attract a bit of unwelcome attention if all they do is drive up the bar bills of the local hotels.
http://tradingaswdr.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/still-busy.html
http://tradingaswdr.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/busy-town.html
An FoI once the dust settles will be interesting on the carbon footprint of this little camp relocation, especially if tied to the tangible contributions all of them made.
It may also be interesting to compare relative broadcaster numbers.
Assuming it’s not all #foiexempted, for the ‘purposes of not looking like a bunch of spendthrift jolly hounds with any excuse’.
Only 2 of the people I know have made any comment at all about Mandela, and unprompted by me both were remarking on the scale of the coverage. No one seems to be interested, even on Facebook.
In fairness to the BBC they have not linked Mandela death to climate change. Not yet.
I just scanned the Sunday newspapers at my local supoermarket – Mandela is NOT the top story any more in the press. But the BBC continues the slobbering hyperbole..
If I had £5 for every time the BBC has used – or has let its contributors use – the ridiculous terms “greatest statesman of the 20th century” or “saint” I could build a statue to him myself. The BBC is making an ass of itself with excessive adulation of Mandela – and I expect a lot of the public are noticing this. The only thing the BBC is really good at these days is pissing off the audience.
The only good point was that episode 9 of the homage-to-Islam series was displaced by Mandela stuff. But meanwhile we are up to episode 10, the half-way point – and I have yet to hear anything at all that remotely supports the title of the series – “Golden Age of Islam”.
‘The only thing the BBC is really good at these days is pissing off the audience.’
Well, they give airborne figs for them, as the ‘unique’ part of the racket rather isolates them from much connection or consequence.
However, when family gets restive, they may get a bit antsy too…
http://tradingaswdr.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/impact.html
‘Here’s some Mandela bits to catch up with from BBC local radio. It’s not just for weather’
Indeed, though if you were trying to dodge a storm surge, the BBC, even local, was probably not the first port of call. Or at all.
That public service remit in action again. Apparently.
Meanwhile, on matters world dominating, commercial, non-commercial and all points inbetween:
http://tradingaswdr.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/big-jobs.html
‘applicants must have had experience of pay tv’
Guessing that is in complement to ‘unique funding’ as a model mash-up?
Big jobs indeed.
Maybe Mr. Redwood could get his head around this one too.
http://johnredwoodsdiary.com/2013/12/08/funding-the-bbc/
The BBC seems to be struggling.
‘The PrangWizard –
It is interesting that these BBC people could not define what a Public Service Broadcaster is. It is clearly something they do not much think about, if at all.’
Maybe they should, or the public may eventually tire of the mushroom treatment.
The BBC seems to think Mandela’s early political life was fighting the British authorities.
Regarding his visit to London in 1962:
Naughty Britain
Which is an interesting view considering South Africa effectively gained independence in 1931 and was subsequently ruled by Afrikaner Nationalists.
Thank goodness for TalkSport at times like these, might not be everyones cup of tea, but at least they are honest about what they are.
BBC show dropped feature on heritage awards ‘for being English only’
BBC1’s The One Show approached English Heritage about covering the Angel Awards but pulled out because they did not relate to the rest of the UK
The BBC will find every excuse to highlight the features and issues that fits its agenda. But as we’ve seen all too often, when they want to pretend they’re fair and impartial, they will sacrifice those that they should also be boosting – if they were really fair and impartial.
What an asinine decision, typical of what we’ve come to expect from the BBC.
Using the same logic they can never show a programme on something going on in Wales, Scotland, or Northern Ireland either.
Idiots!