7.25 this morning on breakfast BBC a Rotherham report. Oooh time for some hard hitting stuff then. Well no, Rotherham together campaign or somesuch where shop keepers are being leafleted on how to spot grooming. So are they in a corer shop or Kebab emporium, no a hideously white old woman’s wool shop. When we do get to the heritage mass rape issue we are then told how racist people are to ask for a white taxi driver. Cue, no one has been arrested and surely that should be the point of the piece. Instead we are driven around Rotherham by a taxi driver moaning about being the victim in all this. Token interview at end with blurred out white girl victim. Disgraceful misreporting by the BBC who produce another social worker piece that essentially blames everyone but the actual people who carried out these foul acts. I will lodge a complaint, yet again, but they seem to have me on a troublemakers list so I don’t get replies these days. I might get a knock on the door from a policeman just back from a Turkish half term break to tell me how to think and behave. This country is stuffed.
There was report on Look North the other evening, live from an Anglican church in Rotherham. They were holding a service for the people of the town in light of what has been revealed to have been happening there, re the Muslim rape gangs; council cover-ups; police inaction etc etc. The reporter was interviewing the curate who proved to be a typical lefty “lets all hug the world better” type, in which the C of E seem to do such a good line of clergy, he described how it was an event for people of “any religion or none at all” etc. The reporter then asked him if the people who had been invited included those most directly affected by the grooming gangs – those being members of the “Asian” community within the town. I listened to the question in disbelief, the curate assured us that of course those people were invited and were present in the church. The dhimmitude really was incredible, even by Look North’s standards – as if the section of society from which the perpetrators of this sexual abuse came were those most directly affected by it and deserving of sympathy, understanding and support.
It put me in mind of Mark Steyn’s line about “Multi-cultural Tourettes” kicking in whenever the media discuss Muslims or Islam and always try to put a positive spin on them and it. It seems to be the default position at the BBC, regardless of whatever the Mohammedans get up to.
When it comes to that difficult journalistic challenge of how to express that correct amount of outrage at the sight of fruit-based racism in a sporting context – the BBC have something of a track record.
Who can forget BBC 5 Live’s Victoria Derbyshire as she egged on the Guardian contributer and ‘secret footballer’ to give us a good example of dressingroom banter with a racial flavour. Having elicited the show stopping “I’ve known a banana to have been left on a black player’s seat”, our Victoria’s sharp intake of breath was felt right across Salford and for a moment sucked half the oxygen from the Greater Manchester region (I know because the Met Office reckon it was the worst something or other since records began-ish) .
Now I like to see a bit of showbiz and spectacle (not so much the racism) so imagin my anticipation this morning as the BBC Breakfast sports sofa bloke tells me about some racial aggro at the football match involving Feyenoord and Roma (odd, I thought this was a strictly English problem hey-ho).
I was about to withness a “GIANT INFLATABLE BANANA”
If true this would eclipse the excitment of the Serbia-Albania international when a drone bombed the pitch with a ‘politically provocative’ flag.
So was the banana just puff? Or does it live up to its BBC billing as “GIANT” ?
Was it big – or was the BBC just pleased to see it?
Man City fans used to take giant bananas to games back in the early 1990s IIRC. Something to do with one of their players’ names – Imre Varadi – morphing into Imre Banana.
BBC 5Live” Panto” Campbells talking about a phony religion again this morning,(any guesses which one?).
So for nearly 20mins we have … its not the “tiny minority” anymore, especially after the BBC phoned a 1000 Muslims in its totally discredited, carefully worded, insignificant survey
yep!… its the teeny tiny weeny minority from now on eh!.
Utter hogwash …
Panto “all ears”, sighing and agreeing with his irritating and pontificating apologist Islamic mouthpiece.
Example 9,00
… 8.30 mins of national news 2 mins of a Prof Gleese
who they cut off earlier then …
Good morning, we have Asfal, in the studio here with me
Achbar, on the line, Asif from Luton and Hasan from Manchester
… no this isn t Asian Network, its national BBC news radio, that only follows on from a “CAGE” extremists interview earlier
Panto starts off …
“this monolithic Muslim community? (sniggers) … its just so much more complicated than that, isn t it
Hasan, that’s just so offensive”
and bleats later, on and on about that Bloody BBC Survey.
I think that s called a stitch up … with more “plants” than Gardenworld …
how do I know?, I attempted to get on the (non) debate myself … hey ho! no one wants to hear objective critique interspersed with the hard facts. why all the talk of … “criminals” this isn t bloody crimewatch!.
“Bangladesh: Atheist writer hacked to death after threats from Muslims”
[Opening excerpt]:-
“Islamic jihadists act with increasing impunity against those they consider to have ‘insulted Islam,’ and the free West in response does not stand up for the freedom of speech, but increasingly practices self-censorship to conform to Sharia blasphemy laws. Avijit Roy, eternal memory.”
It is now de rigueur for the [Labour-supporting] BBC to remind us of the NHS A&E waiting-time target of 95% of admissions to be seen within 4 hours … and any [Tory] failure to meet it. Thus, we were told that there had been a slight improvement in the percentage of patients being seen within the target time – now 92% – but that this was still below the target 95%.
Since repeating certain mantras is now regarded as news, here’s a Latin one of my own; feel free to use it ad nauseam:
Radio 4 short news at 14:00 on Saturday (before ‘Any Answers?’).
The drip drip drip of NHS scare stories continues!
Today it was some poll of NHS workers saying that things had got worse in the last two years because of lack of funding (of course, and no mention of mass immigration as a factor). All this despite ring-fencing of the NHS budget. So the BBC goes with the Labour agenda and never asks the awkward questions which would mitigate criticism of the system by explaining increased demand.
For my sins I am currently doing a temp contract for the NHS, thankfully it’s only for a few months. Not a clinical role but office based.
I used to do public sector jobs many years ago, and I didn’t expect policies, practices, efficiency etc to have since improved..and I was right. Their systems are a right old mess.
The people seem to mean well, but it’s all haphazard, loosely managed, unplanned and Heath Robinson-ish. If a firm of auditors went in it would look like a job-creation scheme for a bunch of 40-60 yr old women with spare time on their hands.
Last night the papers had a story on how the daughter of a victim of JJ, aka ‘Mohammed’, wanted him to have ‘a bullet between the eyes‘. Understandable, you would think, that a daughter should feel emotional, but those charged with finding and dealing with him have the law to follow. No story, really.
But the Beeb are always spoiling for a fight to push their ‘progressive’ agenda. So today’s headline is that relatives want him caught alive. The strap on the BBC NHS News Channel is ‘Relatives of victims want militant caught alive‘. So, not only are the entire army of ISIS butchers to be referred to as ‘militants’, but the most blood-thirsty scumbag of all is to be given the same ‘respect’.
It’s interesting, too, when we now know that the authorities were aware of JJ’s identity for some time – and thought they had a non-disclosure deal with the media – that the BBC story includes ‘Yesterday the police arrived at his house ‘ with a film of – you guessed it – police arriving at his house yesterday. What was the significance of that, when they knew about him ages ago? It smells like a bit of mutual PR spinning agreed by the Beeb and the Plod. Cliff Richard style?
It’s remarkable how this story – and Saville – pushed the jaw-dropping immigration figures down the order yesterday. It’s immigration that warrants a follow-up today, but instead we get this nonsense debate on ‘a bullet’ v ‘take him alive’.
I would rather he was caught, and given over to the Kurds, or jordanians to take care of him in the fashion that he deserves.
No doubt that amnesty, and other so called human rights organizations backed up by the bbc, will be all over it like a rash demanding that he gets a fair trail.
Well! Fuck them!!!!!
“When I heard the BBC celebrating that the majority of British Muslims are opposed to those who want to fight against British interests I wanted to yank my radio from the wall and hurl it through the window of the nearest halal-only Subway.”
and
“It is time that BBC reporters were accountable for what they write and say.”
Her recent exposure on Big Brother has brought her a lot of Twitter followers, hopefully her Sun columns are opening the eyes of those who otherwise might be oblivious to the bias.
On the run up to the general election, a huge number of ‘public’ NGO’s (Labour stuffed Quangos) were set up by Gordon Brown are due to ‘spring-into-action’ soon. But there are new limits on using faux ‘charitity’ funding of political parties before a general election – hence the new ‘Transparency Act 2014’ was made law. Remember when Blair’s government had the ‘not’ very highly qualified ‘Science Minister’ who just happened to be the well known supermarket baron and the mysterious patron of the ‘Common Purpose’ org behind the BBC. He was the largest single donator to the Labour party at the time. Lord ‘supermarket’ has also registered another (private) CASH ‘charity’ as a ‘non-party’ charity funding for the sole public purpose of promoting EU values (outside the BBC) and opposing UKip in the general election. Perhaps we should avoid THAT supermarket – as its clear that the money will veer towards BBC objectives.
I do not want to upset our many liberal readers of this blog but I was buying a paper this morning ( the Guardian of course) and overheard mild looking middle aged English women talking about the three girls who left to join Isis.
Forgiveness was not in their vocabulary neither was understanding. Removing their citizenship was the mildest I can repeat here.
No dissenting voice but then this is shire land and a million miles from the BBC la la world.
At 5-a-side last night the overwhelming 100% opinion was they will get all they deserve and can’t the rest of their families and sympathizers go too. #fuckourgirls
But what about the girls families? You know the ones who had no idea their daughters (the very same daughters they monitor 24×7 and interrogate them when they are just 5 minutes late home from school, the very same daughters who cant go anywhere without a male chaperone) left home and went abroad without the families knowing. Of course it wouldn’t do to report them missing whilst they were still in the UK or even near a Turkish Airport or Railway Station. No they had to wait until they were sure their girls were out of harms way (the dreadful UK Police). Only then could they issue their statement about the fact they had no idea etc and ‘it’s not like them, fun loving girls’. Thus holding off being too closely questioned by the authorities who don’t want to appear Islamaphobic whilst maintaining the Kudos within the community of sending their offspring to take part in a Jihad. Other than claiming benefits and free health care, housing etc, why are these families still in the UK and have not been kicked out?
‘The party is believed to be considering a pledge to cut fees from £9,000 to £6,000 in England if it wins power.’
Ah, so not so much a pledge, but a belief in a consideration of one. Clearly no space for that wee bit of context in the PR poster headline, eh, Nick, Norm, Danny, Hugs…?
Speaking of whom…
‘BBC Political Editor Nick Robinson said Labour had yet to work out how to pay for the pledge.’
Details, eh?
Interesting what ‘news’ makes the banners, and what lesser ‘not news’ doesn’t.
The £9000 tuition fee limit was introduced as a result of the Browne Review, instigated by Labour in November 2009, 6 months before the election. The outcome was pretty much known from the start – university fees were deemed to be too low and whoever governed the country after the next election (6 months later) was going to have to increase fees. The Browne review (Labour sponsored, remember) recommended the £9000 limit.
It’s also worth pointing out to Millitwat that Labour introduced University fees in the first place, relying on MPs from north of the border to get it through – even though those MPs represented constituents that would not be affected by the fees. The West Lothian (loathsome) mafia at work.
Academia hasn’t helped itself here either. The £9000 was supposed to be top limit, not a fixed price. They can charge less if they wish.
Having recently had to do the rounds of universities with offspring it seems they’re all charging the same amount anyway so it might as well be the fixed fee. The understanding appearing to be that if they didn’t charge up to the cap, then they would be considered a “lesser” university or that student might consider the course to be in some way inferior. In any other commercial practise, this would be considered price fixing; why aren’t they being investigated in the same way that supermarkets or oil companies would be in similar circumstances?
At least Millitwat this time seems to be aiming his sights at people old enough to vote.
BBc 13:00 news still calling Mohammed Emwazi jihad john. Frank Gardner appears in the usual BBc presenter talks to BBc presenter (obviously no “experts” available) and somehow manages to drag the “right wing” in on the subject. What a tosser
Labour party political broadcast next & Millibland will cut tuition fees by a third. Funded this time not by a tax on banks but instead cutting allowances for “High earners”.
Lloyds banking group. Do you know they were bailed out by the tax payer? Lloyds group who were “bailed out” by the taxpayer the reporter on video goes on to tell us. Of course it’s a priority we must be told of bonuses being paid out. Of course the reality is a proportion of what is paid goes to the staff who aren’t on massive pay, Like those in the branches and call centres. A quick search brings up this “Salary from £14,940 to £15,770 per annum” Still keep the illusion going that all bankers are one on massive wages BBc it diverts attention from what your “talent” gets paid.
“…Frank Gardner appears in the usual BBc presenter talks to BBc presenter (obviously no “experts” available) and somehow manages to drag the “right wing” in on the subject. What a tosser.”
Gardner’s a supercilious twit, and nothing he ever says should be taken seriously. He’s (quite literally) wheeled on to the News to impart his sneery little pearls of ‘BBC wisdom’ whenever the booking agents have failed to fill the vacancy with someone actually qualified to give a coherent opinion.
Personally I find him quite funny. I’d love to know who writes his material.
‘Frank Gardner appears in the usual BBc presenter talks to BBc presenter (obviously no “experts” available) and somehow manages to drag the “right wing” in on the subject’
Yes, I caught this typical bit of BBC incestuous imaginary scary ‘right wing’ forced equivalence. Gardner comes over as more and more of a ponce every time he appears.
Frank ‘don’t shoot me I’m a Muslim’ Gardner always makes me laugh period. Every time I see him I think back to that day just outside Riyadh. He would have been better saying ‘don’t shoot me I’m with the BBC’ Maybe next time he’ll think quicker on his feet (pun intended)
As we all know, the taxpayer injected several billion pounds into Lloyds in the form of shares for equity.
Lloyds is now making a profit and paying dividends and the shares are now being sold by the Government at a profit. (The Shares have to be sold as a condition of the original injection of capital to comply with EU regulations)
So it was a profitable investment – not a bailout.
The emergency injection of funds by the last Government is probably one of the few things I agree with – however it was almost certainly at the suggestion of the BoE who no doubt run disaster recovery scenarios, rather than A Darling.
And a final note – the “£1.3 trillion” or whatever the loony left scream was the cost of the crisis is totally inaccurate. Most of the money was in the form of guarantees of creditworthiness and never actually had to be realised – and the Government made some nice earnings on fees for the service. – like they are with the loans to Ireland – borrow at 3%, ask Ireland for 6% back.
Or financial genius Vince Cable, who started the panic by shouting ‘Fire!’ at every opportunity. He MUST have realised the consequences but he felt it more important that he be proved right than Northern Rock employees keep their jobs or shareholders their capital.
Northern Rock was a classic case of a bank being brought down by panic. As long as depositors keep their money ‘on deposit’ everything is fine, but if everyone wants their money ‘now’ most banks would fail too. If everyone keeps their seats in a theatre while a waste bin burns everyone will be fine. If everyone tries to get out many get crushed.
Hero Ed is about to make an announcement on Tuition Fees. Cue, this morning, controversial BBC Deputy Political Editor, Norman Smith.
On the Toady programme, our Norman tells us that Miliband’s intention to reduce tuition fees is something that is, ‘Frankly very personal to Ed Miliband’. Smith likes that expression so much he emphasises it THREE times…and if that’s not enough he eulogises on, pointing out that Braveheart Ed has had to fight battles, even within his own party, to win this one
Fully briefed, up to speed and completely empathised, Smith, explains that rich future pensioners will have to pay the bill and slips in the latest BBC meme, ‘Intergenerational fairness’, a wonk phrase probably offered them by their Labour colleagues (Alastair Campbell?). We’ve been hearing that phrase from the BBC for a few weeks now, even more so since Cameron promised to retain universal pensioner benefits. ‘A bribe’, the BBC have countered at every opportunity, one BBC reporter even asked, last week, whether there should perhaps be an upper age limit for voting (these Socialists really don’t do democracy)?
Now, normally at this point when reporting Government announcements, Smith usually says, ‘But Labour say…,’ Not today though – this is a Labour announcement and rather than, ‘But the Tories say…’ he uses it to have a sly, clever little poke (such is Norman Smith’s idea of balance). The message here is that Brave Ed is being counterintuitive, taking money from pensions tax relief while, ‘the Tories are’, to use Smith’s words, ‘Straining every sinew to appeal to the grey vote’.
Yes this is the BBC line. The Tories are being cynical in appealing to the older voter…meanwhile, according to Smith, Miliband’s costly and unnecessary and bandwagon jumping reduction in tuition fees in an attempt to appeal to younger voters is nothing of the sort, it’s something, ‘Frankly very personal’.
Not long ago in the Daily (almost) Torygraph was a report that since tuition fees went up the number of poor (financially) students going to university had increased.
Something to do with universities having to offer bursaries etc. A little along the American line where funds are set by alumni to assist others through.
Here is the report from UCAS. Page 17 is most interesting. It says;
Entry rates for disadvantaged jump by over 10 per cent to highest ever levels across the UK
Young people living in most disadvantaged fifth of areas became more likely to enter higher education in
2014 with entry rates reaching their highest ever levels across the UK.
In England the entry rate for disadvantaged 18 year olds increased by 1.7 percentage points (11 per cent
proportionally) to 18.2 per cent making disadvantaged young people in England a third more likely to enter
university in 2014 than five years ago. Entry rates for this group in England have increased every cycle since
2006 and they are now 60 per cent more likely to enter higher education than in 2006.
In Northern Ireland the entry rate increased by 1.7 percentage points (11 per cent) and in Wales by 3.0
percentage points (22 per cent).
In all three countries the change in 2014 is the largest increase recorded.
I’m not surprised that people have struggled to find this. The BBC ignored the report completely (but then again in fairness, it was GOOD news!). If of course it was the ‘disaster’ Weird Ed claims, we would have never heard the last of it.
Every April I get a call from my college asking me to stump up some cash. It goes towards bursaries for poor kids. The money’s beginning to mount up – about a third of students get some help nowadays. It’s much better than them having to depend on the whims of whatever politician might be in power at any given moment.
My old University is the University of Westminster, yes the well known Taliban training camp. They never ask me for money, if they did they would probably want it paying in Saudi Riyals or Pakistani Rupees.
Could the BBC do more to help the UN?
The World Health Organisation is recommending that people do not listen to more than 1 hour of music a day (see http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-31661789). Perhaps the BBC could help by scrapping Radio 1 and the racist Radio 1Xtra altogether, thereby removing a source of temptation for the Youf and Da Community?
The World Service is sinking deeper into dhimmitude, with the able assistance of the likes of Lyse Doucet and Chloe Tilley. Doucet has been pushing her standard propaganda, portraying Gazans as innocent victims of war and World Service ‘editors’ have been ensuring that her bleat gets the biggest audience possible by pushing it day and night.
She teamed up with Chloe Tilley and others last night on World Have Your Say to bemoan the fact that the world is being tardy in lavishing promised billions in aid on Gaza for alleged reconstruction.
Starts at 23 minutes in. But don’t listen right after a meal:
Chris Gunness insisted on that collective WHYS bleat that there was no evidence that any cement for housing was diverted for any other purpose. He claimed that UNRWA had spent 7 million dollars ensuring that no cement would be diverted.
I guess that means Hamas got a huge chunk of the 7 million with the naïve and hopelessly biased Gunness looking the other way.
I read somewhere, maybe BBC Watch, that the cement is distributed to those who need it to rebuild their houses, all nicely above board. But then it gets surrendered to the Hamas thugs standing just out of sight round the corner.
I quite agree. It’s quite troubling,not least for the Israelis to be given someone’s else’s land free of charge ,suppress the original occupants in order to set up an aryan like state ,get given billions in support from the U.S. and are forced to act surprised when someone takes offence.
There never was a historical, independent nation state called Palestine.
Also, Jews lived in the region long before the Arab and Turkish Muslims invaded – and still did during the inter-war mandate.
The stupidity and lack of basic knowledge on all subjects by Lefturds ceased to amaze me years ago.
But they couple that with inflated egos and a curious lack of self-knowledge that makes them think they are clever and anyone who doesn’t agree with them is stupid and, a favourite of theirs, uneducated.
Why not learn the history from Mahmoud Abbas himself who said in Al Thura the official Palestinian organisation magazine in 1976 ” The Arab armies entered Palestine to protect the Palestinians …but, instead they abandoned them forced them to emigrate….imposed upon them a political and ideological blockade and threw them into prisons similar to the ghettos in which the Jews lived in Europe”
That’s odd…
Back before the birth of Christ, the Romans conquered the area and found it to be full of people of the Jewish faith who didn’t take too kindly to the intrusion.
Perhaps those with a better grasp of history could…. oh don’t…
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This instruction comes courtesy of not just any sickening supermarket …
On today’s Toady we had Jim Naughtie earnestly interviewing a couple of saps about Jihadi John and how come such a lovely bloke got radicalised.
Apparently a very elusive tiny monority is responsible. ‘Where are these people?’ asks Naughtie, wide-eyed (well I can only guess he was, it being radio an’ all) ‘Are they on our streets?’ Jim, lad, where’ve you been for the last 15 years? Never heard of the bookshops, the book stalls, or seen the gender-segregated protests featuring Islamo-nutters with their anti-Western placards. As ChrisL might say, this is our Jim acting all scared of Islam in his own unique, politically-correct way.
The room was not totally empty – but there were very very few people present. It sounds like a wasted trip when Farage should have been concentrating on his big Margate conference, essentially the kick-off of UKIP’s campaign. It is not just the BBC that saw what a thin audience Farage had at CPAC.
(By the way – I saw a report on a US site saying that on the way to CPAC he flew over the Potomac – which was frozen over. Gloabal Warming ? What Global Warming ?
Heard that twice today from the BBC, on both occasions querying the pay packet of Lloyds Bank’s Chief Exec.
There was a brief mention (blink and you would have missed it) that he is actually well on his way to safeguarding the taxpayer billions – with interest – pumped into the bank after the disastrous shotgun merger with the basket case HBOS engineered by G Brown (no, like ‘End to boom and bust’, never gets a mention on the BBC).
So yes, you effing morons, he is well worth it. Do a contrast and compare with Wayne Rooney, if your tiny little leftist intellects can free themselves from the moral realtivist contortions they seem to spend most of their time in these days.
But he won’t get £11m, much of that will be handed over to the taxman.
I am another that doesn’t mind one jot how much people earn as long as they pay their taxes. It means that the Government don’t have to come to me or other basic rate taxpayers to top up the revenue lost by people domiciling elsewhere.
Please stop being logical and rational!
The fact that profits = tax income = public services has not dawned on the BBC or it’s leftist fellow travellers.
In what way were the banking models of Northern Rock, Bradford and Bingley and HBOS anything to do with American sub-prime lending?
P.S This has all been explained you before, but like any socialist you just keep on bleating your mantras regardless, in the hope that if you do it often enough people will start to believe you.
“In what way were the banking models of Northern Rock, Bradford and Bingley and HBOS anything to do with American sub-prime lending?”
“On 12 September 2007, Northern Rock asked the Bank of England, as lender of last resort in the United Kingdom, for a liquidity support facility due to problems in raising funds in the money market to replace maturing money market borrowings. The problems arose from difficulties banks faced over the summer of 2007 in raising funds in the money market.”
“Trust, the ultimate glue of all financial systems, began to dissolve in 2007—a year before Lehman’s bankruptcy—as banks started questioning the viability of their counterparties. They and other sources of wholesale funding began to withhold short-term credit, causing those most reliant on it to founder. Northern Rock, a British mortgage lender, was an early casualty in the autumn of 2007.”
Thanks for supporting my argument, Albaman, namely that the business models of Northern Rock et al were unsustainable because of their huge dependence on the inter-bank money market and nothing to do with sub-prime. They were borrowing something like 12 X what they held in customer deposits. Had the B of E still held its supervisory responsibility those models would never have been allowed to develop in the first place. Equally they would have been on HBOS’s case as soon as they spotted an over-emphasis on buy-to-let lending.
Brown turned his blind eye to this financial powder keg because it was fuelling his ‘boom’.
There was a clear link between the sub prime crisis and the availability of funding to Northern Rock.
Just because you can’t (or do not want to see it) does not mean that it did not exist.
“The money markets have been afflicted with a crisis of confidence since the beginning of August. Sub prime mortgages in the United States had begun to go sour as borrowers began defaulting.”
“Confidence dropped in the money markets (the markets for short term loans). Banks, worried about their own exposure (and unable to quantify it properly) became reluctant to lend to each other, fearing other banks may be worse off. Debt markets froze. The banks kept high levels of cash to themselves.”
“By 2006, Northern Rock had captured 7 percent of the U.K. mortgage market and in the first half of 2007 such was the pace of expansion that it accounted for almost 10 percent of gross mortgage lending in the U.K. Then along came the credit crunch – beginning in August 2007 when growing concerns about exposure to US sub-prime mortgage assets led international wholesale markets including those in the UK to seize up.
Northern Rock came under pressure, as suddenly the supply of loan finance on which it depended simply dried up. ”
There is no evidence that any banker ever put a gun to a borrower’s head and threated to shoot them if they didn’t sign. Ultimate responsibility lies with the individual. Paid over the odds? Why did they do that? Did they listen to the man who saved the world?
Not sure what your point is but if you had read the articles cited above you would “see clearly” that Northern Rock did not have a significant problem with customers defaulting on their loans (Northern Rock’s assets).
The whole rotten system was a house of cards. It was bound to collapse – which card falls first is irrelevant. I’m not able to see how blaming US sub-prime assists your argument; it just looks like one more piece of politically-correct nonsense gone wrong. Plenty more where that came from.
The mix of well-intentioned social engineering and Wall Street creativity that gave us the housing bubble and that put millions of blacks (temporarily) in homes that they couldn’t afford is one of the big disasters of American social policy history.
There was a clear link between the sub prime crisis and the availability of funding to Northern Rock.
Only in the sense that the banks suddenly stopped lending each other money, as you might expect when banks start going bust.
Northern Rock were massively exposed as they funded their lending predominantly from the inter-bank market. As I keep repeating and you keep ignoring, the B of E would never have allowed Northern Rock (or B and B, or HBOS, or RBS) to develop such precarious business models and/or have so much of their lending in one sector and/or lend on such generous multiples (remember 125% mortgages?).
‘It was the first run on a British bank for more than 140 years but five years on from the collapse of Northern Rock, could it happen again? The short answer is maybe – but global and UK officials have responded with regulatory fixes, including some that could have made a difference.
In retrospect, it was clear that the bank’s business model of relying on short-term funding from the wholesale market to make long-term mortgage loans was inherently vulnerable to a loss of confidence.
This problem was compounded by three key factors. Northern Rock’s rapid growth was fuelled by aggressive lending to dubious borrowers. Its supervisors at the Financial Services Authority were distracted and philosophically disinclined to question its business plan and risk models. And the Newcastle-based bank exploited loose bank safety rules, leaving it with very little equity to absorb unexpected losses.’
Irony.
On the Daily Politics there was an item about ‘attack adds’ which Mr Neil assured us were not permitted on TV in the UK because political advertising was banned! Well it may well be on his programmes, but 90% of the BBC Current Affairs and News output on domestic matters is blatant advertising for Labour. I reckon that without the massive free propaganda that the Labour receives, courtesy of the state funded broadcaster, Labour would have been in power very much less than it has been in the past 50 years and the countries politics much more right leaning.
Which begs the question , why don’t the Tories deal with the BBC? Judging by yesterday’s report on the future of the funding of the corporation, it looks as though the Tories are going to accept that the BBC should remain a state funded, near monopoly. They must be bonkers to allow its malign influence to continue to undermine their party and democracy in our country.
Beebinator, there are no Conservatives in the upper echelons of the ‘Conservative’ party. On the major issues that concern the UK: the EU, mass immigration, incompatible Islam, there is little to separate Cameron, Milliband or the BBC ‘narrative’. Look at this week’s immigration figures, for example, or Cast Iron Dave’s serial grovelling to the RoP. Or his wish to remain in the EU. It’s hard to see what the beeboids could really find objectionable about Cameron’s policies; & he’s sanctioned gay marriage – he should be sitting cosily in Evan Davis’ lap, perhaps he does, two metropolitan progressives with much in common, despite the charade the BBC indulges in to paint the PM as some sort of pinstriped devil from the 1922 Committee. A charade designed to trick the audience into thinking there really is a difference between our major politicians.
The BBC is quite safe in Cameron’s hands. He is part of the left-liberal progressive Establishment, & the BBC is its broadcasting arm. He understands this. He is a manager, not a politician with conviction. If a real Conservative leader emerged & turned his/her eye on the BBC & its guaranteed income, on its job-creation scheme for the Oxford/LSE ‘intelligentsia’, the beeboids would be shitting themselves. As it is, this seems unlikely to happen. The BBC’s depiction of a parallel Britain that is marching onwards to a ‘progressive’ paradise will continue – it will probably speed up & get madder. Anything that disturbs this triumphant march, such as the recent muslim demo in Whitehall, an event of great significance, is quite blatantly ignored. That glaring omission is testament to what the BBC is really about. They couldn’t have done anything different. It was just too hot to handle.
Indeed. Melanie Phillips best sums up whats gone wrong with the Conservative Party. Fast forward to 3:45 to avoid the disgusting Labour Party plant in the audeince
Standard QT fare really. Lefty shills interrupting and haranguing those they disagree with whilst Dimbleby looks on and does nothing. Tory puts shills in place and suddenly Dimbleby remembers he has a job to do.
I have been at work Becca , but I too want the Bbc cut back a lot . A licence fee of about £50 , the rest subscription . Its never going to be abolished , but Ukip , will not ,boot out all muslims , close down all mosques , or close down the Bbc . Its not going to happen , I am sure many of the biased bbc posters are ex BNP or NF , because a lot of these policies on your Ukip wish list ,just won`t happen .
Fair enough – if you don’t vote UKIP it won’t happen. But you – and most people – are ostriches who think they can stick their head in the sand and things will just stay as they are now. They won’t. There will be economic upheaval; poverty will visit a lot of people who today vote ‘safe’ so as not to rock the boat. And Islam will achieve restrictions on liberty that will suffocate our society. The choice – literally – is yours.
Well Essex Man, they are certainly not happening under the Tories …. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-2969577/Net-migration-stats-revealed.html
Cameron has not kept his promise to the British people. Also, I don’t want a £50 licence fee, in fact I don’t want a licence fee at all. Why cant it be abolished ?
PS. I have never posted a wish list.
Your wasting your breath Becca ‘Essex Man’ doesn’t care about the country, morale ,spiritual or material all he worries about is wether Milliband will put twopence halfpenny on the rates
That s why he’s happy to vote for a party that does this http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/02/27/christian-school-where-ofsted-branded-pupils-bigots-will-close-education-secretary-confirms/
That’s his ‘conservative’ party and he’s welcome to it. The problem is the rest of us who do care about something other than this quarters dividend will have to suffer for his selfishness.
Yeah well , when Millipeed / SNP take over on about 9th / 10th May , I hope you enjoy the next 5 years of ,more Bbc bias , more immigration , more PC restrictions , more anti English policies, plus much more . There will be No EU referendum , every thing ,you want won`t happen , but the reverse will. I am just saying , Millipeed / Marxist / SNP pollicies, a Warning from History. No Ukip policies will be enacted , because ,you think the Tories are not right wing enough , so we will get 5 years of the Millipeed /Marxist ones instead. Come mid May ,don`t say I did not warn you what will happen . Enjoy the jackboot of Comrade Millipeed .
Essex Man, I wish you were wrong, but I fear you are correct. UKIP are already moving to the centre, sacking members for not being PC -oops councillor Blogs said ‘brown’ sack him. UKIP do not object to more mosques, and Nige kept away from the far right Palin and Tea Party.
Agree. I think it was F A Hayek who warned of the inexorable slide of politics to the Left once you have a big state … and the BBC epitomizes the big state.
Thus, even UKIP are dragged leftwards because they dare not rock the boat and risk [BBC-orchestrated] unpopularity by raising the NHS funding issue or that of the nature (rather than simply numbers) of those pouring into the UK from the EU and the Third World.
I do sympathize with Essex Man; there are only hard options at this moment: vote UKIP on principle and risk a Miliband/SNP alliance or swallow hard and vote for the pink Tories on the basis that you hope they will be a little less bad than the Left.
Thanks Llareggub , some people behave on here in the same way as SWP / UAF ,they claim to despise , by shouting down any reasonable debate , because they don`t like what they hear .Its almost becoming like the “Life of Brian” scene ,” What have the Roman`s ever done for us “.
Essex Man, if a few more Conservatives had voted UKIP in Heywood and Middleton, the Labour party you rightly excoriate would have lost the seat. UKIP will win a significant bridgehead of seats in May and will be the only alternative to Labour throughout Wales, the Midlands and the North. There is something seriously wrong with your party when it is not even competing in these areas any more. Get out of the way in the North and let UKIP beat Labour.
Agree 100% with your analysis, unfortunately it seems that the majority of the commentators on this site have decided that UKIP is the way forward.
Don’t agree with many of the more extreme views, however, apart from some misguided attacks on the Conservatives a sizeable portion of the posts on this site are valid..
OK – opposing case in a nutshell. You see two big issues; the economy and immigration, with the economy as the most important. Others see it as pretty irrelevant. The economy is a ‘house of cards’ at the minute, a big crash is inevitable anyway, probably better if it comes early under Milliband. A united society can pick itself up after any crash – it’s been done before. Mass immigration, OTOH, will obliterate the tolerant, liberal society that has developed over centuries. We are headed for the fate of the Roman Empire. History will record that it all worked out well, but future Amazon customers will only have a choice of history books by someone with first name ‘Mohammed’.
Cameron will not get control of immigration. That is clear now. He didn’t promise a referendum in 2010, but he spun a yarn about having one ‘if blah, blah, blah’, knowing that the situation wouldn’t arise. He’s a dissembler – you need to face up to it. He promised to re-negotiate open borders, but has recently backed away from that after Merkel put her foot down. Now he is crafting subtle PR spin to big-up trivial benefit changes. Blind allegiance to that man will lead us to disaster.
Very apt . The problem for the BBC is that things really are speeding up and the BBC is losing it. Not reporting the March on Sunday was a major eye opener.
I forsee the BBC completely imploding into a babbling bunch of mad chipmunks ( apologies to chipmunks nice little creatures but very zizzy)
At which point the only people listening or watching will be themselves.
But Farage does not want to be PM , he said so ,& he wants to give up Ukip leadership by 2020 .Look at the other Ukip MEP`s , they all look a bit like the Major ,in Faulty Towers , the Labourites you are after, won`t vote for them in 2020 . Only 2 people can be PM in May , the Millipeed or Cam . Most of you want The Millipeed ,well your welcome to him , I just hope he gets assassinated after a few months .
Because they are not Tories. They are no different from the last Blair government. Until people start actually waking up that we have, at present, a one party state, this nonsense will continue until such time as the lid comes off.
And that’s exactly what these traitors are planning, Please, please stop this nonsense of right and left.
Whilst I’d agree that the current mob are not traditional Tories that still does not explain why they don’t act against the BBC. The BBC hate anyone with a blue rosette even and especially those they went to school with. They are totally and unequivocally for Labour. It’s not a question of policies it is a question of teams.
So just self interest should get the Tories motivated on curbing the BBC and at the very minimum ensuring that they obey their charter. Otherwise they lose out on all those lovely perks of being an MP. Let’s face it; that what the vast majority of MPs care about the most.
I would, but last time they invited comments – on the World Service website – they didn’t want mine because I’m not British.
Bloody cheek – they pump out propaganda worldwide, but they won’t accept comments from their worldwide audience.
And of course their ‘complaints’ website is a bad joke.
The BBC now concentrates mostly on Twitter and Facebook to pump out propaganda – ideal media for the short-attention-span generation, and of course it’s a simple matter to block ‘incorrect’ comments, Orwell fashion.
They’ve rendered the old comment websites all but redundant but we oldies recall a useful bit of info, and something the BBC never advertises. If you want to rub their faces in their bias in the hope of moderating their behaviour you can email BBC hacks by simply using the following address:
The BBC NHS News Channel has a special on Marine Le Pen tomorrow, presented by Robert Peston. Strange choice, given that Peston is Economics Editor. Still; his strong support for Common Purpose will give him a unique perspective on a lady not known as a True Believer.
At first I was puzzled why business expert Peston would cover Marine le Pen and French politics. Le Pen has set out to defend French culture against Islamisation and has incurred the wrath of the UAF, Left Unity, the TUC, NHS workers and many in the Labour Party who protested against her speaking at the Oxford Union. But the left see this as racism and attribute increasing support for Le Pen in traditional Marxist terms – austerity, unemployment feeds fascism, they say. Its not Islamic culture that is a problem; its capitalist austerity and how the capitalists divide and rule, playing off muslims against the indigenous French. Hence Peston will focus on the French economy and how its problems inspire racism and feeds islamophobia. Throw off the shackles of capitalism mein comrades and there will be no Islamophobia or need to protect French culture.
Peston is the son of a Labour peer but chooses not to use his title of ‘The Honorable Mr Robert Peston’. That should answer any questions about his coverage of a right wing politician.
‘The job may instead go to one of more than 20 external candidates who have applied anonymously. Only one name has so far been leaked: the BBC’s Robert Peston’.
The Beeb have scooped many tonight . Leonard Nimoy has died. As a lifelong Trekkie it’s a sad night for me. To his family and colleagues I say ” I Grieve With Thee.”
just 20 minutes into any questions tonight on radio 4 and it has to be the most left wing biased audience i have heard in years,the howls of screams and cheering when that idiot from the green party natalie bennett spoke and that idiot from the labour party emma reynolds was deafening,every time the ukip guy spoke and talked sense he got hissed and howled at by this rancid socalist workers partry type audience,it is pathetic and the bbc back to its left wing biased best in picking the audience for any questions.
Bristol is famously a pseudo left leaning Bohemian city, but there is something more than meets the ear going on with this audience. Natalie B-B-B-Bennett cheered to the rafters after every answer, and the admittedly ridiculously bombastic UKIP MEP David Coburn booed at jeered.
I thought that was Brighton – which has a green council, however, they have managed to alienate the majority of the residents and will be kicked out during the next local elections.
Bet the BBC fail to cover this disastrous story of what happens when the greens have an opportunity to practise what they preach!
I know UKIP has not a lot of talent to draw from as it’s all very new, but honestly this guy tonight did it no favours, jumping in, going way off subject to make his “point” not just hanging back and pushing some obvious telling points, such as where all the electric power, water, food is going to come from for 600,000 a year, why do we need to steal medical staff from third world countries such as Mali ( as said by the Malian foreign minister in a speech in Manchester ). The guy ought to have drawn attention to the obvious fact he was surrounded by students, he ought to have engaged one or two of them to show up the naivety of their views. That the country needs to slow down and draw breath for the good of all. Sorry I wouldn’t vote for him, far too irritating, someone seriously needs to tell him, less is more.
I disagree. He had some great points. For instance he ponted out that we are stealing doctrors and nurses from other countries (booing in the background) whilst the left keep accusing us of stealing everything in history under the guise of colonialism. Surely they dont want us stealing other countries qualified key workers, do they??
The orchestrated slow hand clapping of the UKIP guy was unpleasant; credit to Bumblepuppy J. for stopping them but questions have to be asked about the audience selection, when the wild applause for Greens & Leftists is out of proportion to their share of the vote. I’m reminded of the growling dogs in Orwell’s “Animal Farm” and the intimidation of the more docile animals by them.
The collective response to the 298,000 nett immigration figure for the year to Sept 2014 was very poor: nobody pointed out the seriousness of it and even the UKIP guy had to keep off the question of who was coming in. Self-censorship is the most effective sort and the rotten BBC has been promoting it for years.
Dimbleby blatantly allowed that clown Bennett to have another go at answering her unfunded 500,000 homes question. She accounted for approx. £5Bn of the £27Bn bill and then he let her off the hook. All greeted with rapturous applause by the baying crowd.
I agree that the UKIP chap didn’t cover himself in glory but I liked the bit at the end where Davey was banging on about the requirement for zero carbon homes and Cockburn said they want homes not zero carbon homes. Davey started to try and play the global warming BS when Cockburn called it a middle class obsession – quite right.
AQ was shameful last night.
Quick to remind the kipper who the Chairman is and slow to remind his thuggy UAF chums in the audience.
From Gerry Adams, Hamas, to Jihad John and UAF dross, my how every droid loves the smell of outlaw leather.
And is there any amount of billons the green idiot can promise to spend of our money and which will be ‘costed in the manifesto’ at which the shouties and manic clappers in the audience think ‘yeah, you’re just being silly now’?
The audience makes me
Want to charge immature students £120 000 a month to encourage them to get a real job instead
Give up on them and hope they’re all swamped and outbred by those immigrants they think bring nothing but joy to their lives .
On ITV’s Calendar, Milliband said that Amina Ali had withdrawn her candidacy for Bradford West because of family commitments. According to The Times this wasn’t the true reason. It was because she was scared by the Pakistani clan wars in the constituency. Switching to the BBC’s Look North we have detailed confirmation of this. Rather surprisingly the BBC had quite an item about the unsavoury carryings on amongst the Bradford Pakistani ‘community’. So Milliband told a direct lie. The BBC item was only spoilt by the fact that it was presented by an Asian woman who had very poor English.
While the BBC are carrying stories of how wonderful Millipedes cuts in university funding is, and hardly anything about the tidal wave of criticism, there is a report of a major rift developing in the Labour party reported in the Manchester Evening News.
I truly believe that the BBC has decided to throw any last remaining shreds of caution to the wind. From its ridiculous fawning over Islam to its naked cheer leading for Milliband, it has dropped any pretence. It simply doesn’t care what anyone not of its persuasion thinks – it knows we can do nothing to stop it.
BBC are carrying stories of how wonderful Millipedes cuts in university funding is. There are far too many kids leaving school and going to university to study worthless ‘Mickey Mouse’ and ‘artyfarty’ degrees where there are no associated jobs at there end of them. Tuition fees should be provided for students studying for degrees in engineering, sciences and the medical field. The country is crying out for them.
The rest should not waste their time, get a job in the real world, and earn some money.
No, pally. Bristol is waiting to vote UKIP along with the rest of the country. It’s just the locus of the BBC, Bristol University, Merchant Venturers, City Council, Freemasons, Mad Mayor, FirstBus, Kerry McCarthy, Dawn Primarolo and Uncle Tom Cobbley and all! It’s never been good here, but always interesting. And there are still enough righteous citizens to make a difference.
The News Quiz on Radio 4 tonight, just about covered all bases with snide remarks and fun poking at all political parties, except…..LABOUR. Not a mention, but then there never is. For the life of me I cannot think why that would be? Maybe Dez can suggest something?
It’s interesting to see how the usual BBC supporters scuttle away like cockroaches when there are no easy pickings to be had – and some hard questions to answer.
Right now, the usual suspects would have to find some sort of excuses for the BBC’s disgusting interview with CAGE, its craven refusal to report the infamous London march, its daily cheer leading of ‘Labour says’ headlines, relentless campaigning against UKIP, tireless boo-hooing over the ‘innocent schoolgirls’, failure to pursue Jack Straw as it did Rifkind, packing its audiences with radicals…
Not hard to see why they are lurking beneath the fridge waiting for easier times, is it?
Bit hard on cockroaches. They ,being cockroaches , must do what cockroaches do.
The BBC I suppose must also do what it must do. Which is to make itself look even more stupid by the day.
Re Nigel Farage address to CPAC in the US, there are three things to note. The audience was based at the back and at the front with none in the middle. Seat allocation was not well done. Plus his address was at dinner time! Which explains the reduced numbers in a big way. The Daily Mail said there were around 1000+ attendees, “more than a thousand stayed into the dinner hour to hear him.” (D Mail). Impressive if people postponed their supper after a long day to listen to him! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2971383/UKIP-chief-Nigel-Farage-warns-Republican-Party-sticks-establishment-LOSE.html
According to the Times, Farage went out of his way to avoid contact with Palin. Is he getting afraid that connections witht the tea party will damage him
I see the bBC has decided to report on Islamic terrorist apologists cage over that beautiful boy statement they made about JIah (John) Mohammed. Cage: Important human rights group or apologists for terror?
As details emerged about the identity of “Jihadi John”, the masked Islamic State militant pictured in several hostage videos, questions started to arise about Cage, the advocacy group that had been in close contact with the man now known to be called Mohammed Emwazi between 2009 and 2012. Cage has caused controversy by suggesting that MI5 harassment could have contributed to the radicalisation of the Kuwaiti-born computer graduate who grew up in west London. Human rights groups say they are doing “vital work” but critics have called the organisation “apologists for terror”
Really , it seems that the bBC have thrown in their prayer mat with Allahs finest and now openily defend intolerant Islamic propoganda Human rights orgs as ‘Important Human rights group.”
I quote from the bBC
“Cage said Mohammed Emwazi had sought their assistance after being interrogated by a British security official in the Netherlands following an attempted visit to Tanzania.”
So, he wasn’t radicalised when he picked up a Koran?
He wasn’t radicalised hanging around with Jiahist thugs in London
He wasn’t radicalised when he was stopped by the Tanzanians when they refused him entry into the country as a back door into Somalia (Why did they ban him?)
the same with Kuwait
Yet a blood thirsty follower of his namesake who we are told don’t fear death, was worried shitless by a few questions ask to him in a foreign country. Anyway the bBC in trying to whitewash Cage, never bother to report that Beautiful boy statement. I wonder why?
The bBC, the propaganda arm for Islamic terrorism.
BBC Newsnight,
Over a Pegida march, in Newcastle bleating on and on about … Islamofauxbia? .. as if it is a bonafide issue?
… not a false construct specifically designed to silence justified criticism of the dangerous ideology Islam…
Absolutely disgraceful bias, and less than 24hrs after all that shameless pandering giving Sucre and airtime to the extremists from “Cage”!
They forgot to mention the 4 muslims convicted of going “Jew Bashing” a couple of weeks back in neighbouring Gateshead.
The local MP seems to forget the Jews but harps on about perceived slurs on the muslims.
BBC R4 say that Pegida UK is anti-immigration. I don’t believe the BBC. Pegida is not against East European or African Christian culture, Indian Hindu or Sikh culture or Asian Buddhist culture.
Charlie the auto cue reader reports wild panda numbers are up 17% to 1800 why don’t they mention the far better story that Polar bear numbers are up 400 % since the 1960’s to around 25,000
Watched the Joy Division documentary last night. According to auntie the social degradation experienced by the band was all Thatchers fault. She wasn’t even in power when they released their first album an for under a year when they released their second before Curtis topped himself.
They then state that Joy Division were responsible for Manchester’s regeneration. Not the evil Thatcher.
WWF on BBC have cleared the Panda bit up apparently if you build a road through the wilderness where they live it isolates them so if you have a panda either side of the road the population will dwindle right well I’m sold
Its amazes me how much adulation the bBC give both Joy Division and the Smiths.
Its can’t be for their commercial success, neither bettered the Top 10 during their careers, must be for some other reason? yes they were the antithese of Mrs T.
John Peels influence was not felt in the underage teen schools of Texas you know!
His lugubrious Scouse impression and willingness to hop any passing bandwagon was the very template of guilt-ridden white public school toffs who wished to “be cool and to make it” in the BBC and its cultural Elitay Palces like the Gurdain or Home Office.
So-as he donned his blagged trenchcoat and gladioli up the rump-all that Peel “blessed” gets BBC 4 wet at the gusset.
Where else would Nazi terms like Joy Division and New Order get an untroubled name check for a whole evening.
Mozzas views on China also seem not to bring on the hate crime police of the BBC do they?
Spineless Wankaz all!
R4 Today 07:10 – Item about the Pegida march in Newcastle today. Clip of Pegida member saying “We’re not right-wing or Nazis – we’re just raising awareness that extremist Islam is a major problem in this country”. Jim Naughty grumbles “not right-wing, not Nazis and want to raise awareness that Islam is a problem” – humph! Quite a contradiction there’.
And there you have the naked, liberal-lefty, hand-wringing, self-loathing and dhimitude of the BBC establishment in a nut shell. You MUST be a NAZI if you think Islam is ‘a problem’!
They also pointed out that these will be a counter demonstration by an organisation named ‘Newcastle Unite’ that would be the utterly fascist UAF one supposes – so why not say so?
R4 Today 07:10 – Item about the Pegida march in Newcastle today. Clip of Pegida member saying “We’re not right-wing or Nazis – we’re just raising awareness that extremist Islam is a major problem in this country”. Jim Naughty grumbles “not right-wing, not Nazis, and want to raise awareness that Islam is a problem – Quite a contradiction there”.
And there you have the naked, liberal-lefty, hand-wringing, self-loathing and dhimitude of the BBC establishment in a nut shell. You MUST be a NAZI if you think Islam is ‘a problem’!
They also pointed out that there will be a counter demonstration by an organisation named ‘Newcastle Unites’. That would be the utterly fascist UAF one supposes – so why not say so?
Hopefully those skilled in such things can capture and share this quote because, as you say, that is a rather spectacular statement from a supposedly objective interviewer.
Look forward to him interviewing David Cameron on the entirely justifiable move by Turkey to turn back those of unsuitable faith fleeing Isis, as opposed to entirely legitimate economic migrants en route here to bolster the landlord industry in Kensington.
Or maybe there will be no time in the schedule as the BBC devotes its energies to coordinating the efforts of a group to which the PM is a founding signatory.
I’ll ‘Listen Again’ when it’s available to check the exact wording and then will be making a complaint to the BBC (for all the good that will do). The fact that Naughtie thinks this is ‘quite a contradiction’ and chooses to state that opinion not only shows naked political bias but his arrogance in assuming that his audience will agree.
It will do some good as that ‘log’ of theirs must be straining at the seams, and someone in there may just recognize when they moved to being a flat out propaganda organ.
Also, when they reply, as they must, a public airing of whatever vacuous excuse really shows them up more than being tucked away in one of their secret files.
And they don’t like it one bit, despite being so transparent ‘n all.
One of the few good outcomes to the Future of the BBC inquiry report is The Trust knows now that no one trusts them. This may focus a few minds for when the wall falls and the files they obsessively keep get researched.
Wake up, get out of bed, switch on R4. it’s 08.35 and someone’s telling me “islam is the same as Christianity and other religions”.
Switch off radio, put kettle on.
The weekend begins.
it isn’t at all, you fall into the same trap as I do if I ever try to expound on ballet or flower arranging, subjects I know nothing, and care nothing about. Christianity was reformed by going back to the basics and cutting out all of the ‘man added’ stuff that gave power and control to the priests. Christianity was reformed by going back to the core message of the gospels, love one another, turn the other cheek etc. The trouble with islam is that they have never wandered far from their basic beliefs of hating the Jews/Christians/kuffar and smiting heads from necks.
Back to basics is exactly what ‘radical’ or ‘militant’ islam is, and will always be.
They never “wandered far from the basics” because to try and do so or even to begin to talk about doing so, would lead to accusations of heresy; and then that really wouldn’t work out so well them.
That there is “radical” or “militant” Islam is erroneous.
“There is no such thing as Islamism, it is simply the expression in practice of what the Koran requires them to do. There is no such thing as moderate Islam, there are moderate Muslims – but no moderate Islam.”
Dr Carl Goldberg
Yes Ursus Maritmus – apparently it has survived warming and cooling before but this time it is different that 0.04 % trace gas has changed everything – the thing is they all know they are lying and we know they are lying why do they bother
Nerdy-looking BBC tv weather man Peter Gibbs kicks off his forecast this morning with an agenda-driven junk statistic fresh from the Met Office would-be record breakers:
“It’s been the sunniest winter for 86 years…. but to be honest, I’m struggling to find some sunshine for you around Britain this weekend…”
Oh dear, every time the BBC gears up for a bit global climate whatsname alarmism the bloody weather goes and lets them down.
‘Poor BBC television Weatherman, Peter Gibbs looked baffled and bemused Thursday as he broadcast to the nation rather sheepishly “…plenty more snow still to come…” Gibbs conceded the Arctic conditions were “…not going to give up without a fight.” Nonetheless, Gibbs was still obstinately clinging to the Met Office’s forlorn hope that “…it will turn a lot milder over the weekend.” Fingers and legs being crossed backstage.’
Of relevance to this thread and the one below on the BBC highlighting the silly view that MI5 radicalised the psychotic ‘Jihadi Mohammed’ – this morning, Today played an extended version of an interview with Sir John Sawers, ex head of MI6. In its wisdom the BBC allowed its leftie tame Muslim Mishal Hussein to conduct the interview. Her questions-cum-statements were often designed to subtly undermine what the security services are doing to protect us – Muslims who go to Syria are ‘victims’ etc etc
The BBC and Mishal Hussein are not the people to answer them, but there are clearly a number of questions in regards to this matter. The security services do not radicalise Muslims, but they certainly use agent provacateurs and effectively ‘licence’ certain hate preachers in return for information. They also have a vested interest in permitting or perhaps ‘not preventing’ the occasional act of terrorism; after all – no terrorist threat, no need for large state security apparatus with its many jobs and a large budget. There is also the concept of ‘acceptable levels of terrorism’ which was followed in Northern Ireland; as long as there was only the occasional outrage on the mainland there wasn’t too much concern and it did, after all, provide a way of keeping the army busy when there wasn’t much else going on in the world.
Still, the security services are being undermined. You may have seen their recent recruitment advert featuring a girl in a wheelchair with the caption: ‘Mixed race, female, dyslexic – just what we are looking for’ (no, it’s not an early April 1st spoof). Now there is absolutely no reason why such a person or anyone else cannot and should not work effectively for MI5 and MI6, athough perhaps they should have added the requirement to be fluent in Arabic as well. But it is – how shall we say? – noteworthy that they are emphasising such characteristics. If the obsession to meet diversity and equality quotas is more important than the ability to do the job then we have problems. Perhaps we should outsource MI6… to the Mossad.
I am sure the security services are doing an excellent job infiltrating the EDL, the so called far right, and now collecting information to destroy PEGIDA, and are cooperating fully with the BBC, Tell Mama, the Muslim Council, and the Government’s Task Force on combating extremism.
The Fascists at the BBC are in full recovery mode for Natlie Bennets Brain fade, telling us that everyone gets it, and that it’s nothing unusual. Asking almost every guest on every program to give an example of when they lost the thread in public.
Then there’s the perennial Fascist reality twisting – one of the Fascists favourites has dropped the ball, quick find a reason to blame it all on a white male! So the fact that she fucked up is all the fault of white men, because of ‘sexism’ ! Which the BBC pick up and run with like it’s the word of God !
As others have said they’re not even trying to hide the bias now.
In order for one’s brain to experience fading, it is a prerequisite that one should possess a brain in the first place.
In the case of Ms. Bennett, this is debatable.
What is NOT debatable, however, is the fact that not only is she not in possession of a brain, nor (on at least three occasions) has she been in possession of all the facts relating to the Green policies, if indeed there were any facts to be in possession of.
She is an Antipodean half-wit, and deserves to have fun poked at her, at every opportunity. She does not, it seems, intend to relinquish her position as leader of the compost party, so perhaps we may have more interesting “interviews” to witness in the near future, before the daft green pixie Lucas, in abject exasperation, grabs the reins again. Or maybe we might witness another spectacle of the mad Jenny Jones stealing the limelight. Now, that WAS funny.
Interesting, on Channel 4 news last night, the number of “students” who said they were going to vote Green. Says it all, I think, for the youth of today, and the “educational” establishments of the Former UK.
But she`s a shoo-in for any “Razzle” Award for bad political acting.
Her impression of somebody with a cough was grand!
An absolute dodo of a performance.
Maybe it`s been due to being around too many spliffing types that populate her useless party and its world. Passive smoking IS a problem then?
Still eh?…one big sicknote for MS victims ensures that THEIR dope will always be “medically valid”.
Natalie seems to be their biggest dope anyway!…and, as ever she fails the tests day on day.
My morning so far
1- Turn on tv (tuned to BBC1 news)
2- Item on about women’s football
3- Interview with two players – one black the other Asian
4- Camera cuts to sidelines and zooms in on Asian woman wearing a headscarf.
5- Turn tv off and take dog for a walk.
Always good to hear somebody elses “switch-off moment”.
Mine was yesterday on Radio 4 News at 7.05am.
Our newsreader referred to Jihadi John “PRESIDING OVER” the deaths of those hostages that he beheaded with a blunt knife.
He “allegedly killed” same hostages; and the Merrilegs eejit went on to imply that the poor relative of one of his victims was somewhat harsh in hoping that the twat “got a bullet between his eyes”.
Presumably, she`s still a bit bitter about it…whereas all those other victims seemed to simply hope that he`s see justice done-ie less than Glitters sixteen years I`m sure.
Not been back to the BBC since…bastards…”Presiding over the rubberducking of this country”
A review of wimmin’s rugby there – My old sunday league team used to get more spectators than there were on show. How come’s we never got on the telly.
I see the bbc are running the meme that jihad john and the three death bitches from east London are victims of grooming [cf Rotherham etc, etc, etc] at first instance, rather than murderers and their co-conspirators. never mind the fact that rotherham’s victims never beheaded anyone nor did they go well out of their way to help others who behead.
funny how they never gave anders brevic whatsisname a similar pass.
The BBC seems to be using the old trick of “denial of the unsubstantiated accusation” rather a lot recently.
Today R4 simply states “Pegida UK denies being a racist party”
This means that the BBC has absolutely no evidence that it could play on air that Pegida UK espouses “racism” ( why is opposition to an ideology or religion racism?). All that happened was that a BBC “journalist” asked a Pegida supporter “Is Pegida racist” and the answer was “No”. Naturally, a denial on air creates the impression that Pegida “has something to hide”. Denials of what is not the case can, of course, be repeated ad infinitum to enhance the “no smoke without fire” effect. I’m sure it would be equally newsworthy if Today led with “Eddie Mair, like Jimmy Saville a BBC stalwart, denies raping an 8-year old ” It’s very much the same with “Security forces facing questions about radicalisation of Enwazi”. “facing” suggests that real questions are in fact being adressed. The reality is that the BBC is simply regurgitating the unfounded assertions of CAGE. No one else apart from a Jihadist mouthpiece and the BBC would ever think the question was worth asking. “Was alien abduction the reason for Enwazi’s radicalisation?” Distortions worthy of the gutter press.
‘The BBC seems to be using the old trick of “denial of the unsubstantiated accusation” rather a lot recently.’
Indeed. ‘Critics are saying’. And it seems the currently ‘resting’ Flokker squadron on R&R ’til a slew of other poorly labelled Claymores are cleared are entirely happy when their sappers lay such unfounded efforts around and about.
Frankly, in the spirit of ‘two wrongs’, those on the receiving end of the BBC’s usual uni-directional holding to account could be schooled to greet such attempts with a few of their own?
“Is Pegida racist?”
“Where would such a claim originate please? It’s like asking you as a BBC staff member if the BBC is headed by an internal self-regulation entity that is a busted flush and needs to go. Oh… sorry… no it isn’t; that is factually on record, from an ex-BBC staffer, Labour MP and Future of the BBC Committee member”
The claim originates from Angela Merkel who did a U turn on Islam, although no one in the media thinks that worth investigating.
Strange too that when she said that Islam was incompatible with Western civilisation they didn’t bother to ask anyone that question.
Apparently not everyone in Germany agrees with Ma Merkel. ARD had a strange news item today quoting a Bremen police spokesman’s complaint that “Salafists returning from Syria to Bremen are a ticking time bomb”. There was no gurning and facial contortions to indicate lack of official approval. I say strange because ARD is a staunch cheer leader for the Willkommenskultur.
A policeman’s lot is not a happy one even in Bremen
When a Muslim’s not engaged in mutilation
Or maturing his jihadistic little plans
His capacity for innocent elation
Is just as great as any honest man’s
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7.25 this morning on breakfast BBC a Rotherham report. Oooh time for some hard hitting stuff then. Well no, Rotherham together campaign or somesuch where shop keepers are being leafleted on how to spot grooming. So are they in a corer shop or Kebab emporium, no a hideously white old woman’s wool shop. When we do get to the heritage mass rape issue we are then told how racist people are to ask for a white taxi driver. Cue, no one has been arrested and surely that should be the point of the piece. Instead we are driven around Rotherham by a taxi driver moaning about being the victim in all this. Token interview at end with blurred out white girl victim. Disgraceful misreporting by the BBC who produce another social worker piece that essentially blames everyone but the actual people who carried out these foul acts. I will lodge a complaint, yet again, but they seem to have me on a troublemakers list so I don’t get replies these days. I might get a knock on the door from a policeman just back from a Turkish half term break to tell me how to think and behave. This country is stuffed.
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For INBBC:-
“Fury as Rotherham sex-scandal police celebrate officers in awards ceremony”
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/560509/Fury-Rotherham-sex-abuse-police-celebrate-officers-awards-ceremony
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“So are they in a corner shop or Kebab emporium, no a hideously white old woman’s wool shop.”
Be fair now, the first two probably don’t need to be told how to spot grooming.
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Yep saw that. How terrible some people have started asking far a white taxi driver..shock.
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There was report on Look North the other evening, live from an Anglican church in Rotherham. They were holding a service for the people of the town in light of what has been revealed to have been happening there, re the Muslim rape gangs; council cover-ups; police inaction etc etc. The reporter was interviewing the curate who proved to be a typical lefty “lets all hug the world better” type, in which the C of E seem to do such a good line of clergy, he described how it was an event for people of “any religion or none at all” etc. The reporter then asked him if the people who had been invited included those most directly affected by the grooming gangs – those being members of the “Asian” community within the town. I listened to the question in disbelief, the curate assured us that of course those people were invited and were present in the church. The dhimmitude really was incredible, even by Look North’s standards – as if the section of society from which the perpetrators of this sexual abuse came were those most directly affected by it and deserving of sympathy, understanding and support.
It put me in mind of Mark Steyn’s line about “Multi-cultural Tourettes” kicking in whenever the media discuss Muslims or Islam and always try to put a positive spin on them and it. It seems to be the default position at the BBC, regardless of whatever the Mohammedans get up to.
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‘The BBC who produce another social worker piece…’
How many social workers does it take to change a light bulb?
None – but 24 to attend a symposium and produce a Working Paper called ‘Coping With Darkness’.
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If you don’t get a reply do what I do and lodge a further complaint about the lack of reply, again at the end of the day we are paying for this.
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Thanks, will do.
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‘GIANT… INFLATABLE….’ letdown
When it comes to that difficult journalistic challenge of how to express that correct amount of outrage at the sight of fruit-based racism in a sporting context – the BBC have something of a track record.
Who can forget BBC 5 Live’s Victoria Derbyshire as she egged on the Guardian contributer and ‘secret footballer’ to give us a good example of dressingroom banter with a racial flavour. Having elicited the show stopping “I’ve known a banana to have been left on a black player’s seat”, our Victoria’s sharp intake of breath was felt right across Salford and for a moment sucked half the oxygen from the Greater Manchester region (I know because the Met Office reckon it was the worst something or other since records began-ish) .
Now I like to see a bit of showbiz and spectacle (not so much the racism) so imagin my anticipation this morning as the BBC Breakfast sports sofa bloke tells me about some racial aggro at the football match involving Feyenoord and Roma (odd, I thought this was a strictly English problem hey-ho).
I was about to withness a “GIANT INFLATABLE BANANA”
If true this would eclipse the excitment of the Serbia-Albania international when a drone bombed the pitch with a ‘politically provocative’ flag.
So was the banana just puff? Or does it live up to its BBC billing as “GIANT” ?
Was it big – or was the BBC just pleased to see it?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31653781
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oooooh thats a monster banana, i bet evan davis was fighting off 3/4 of the BBCs staff to take that home with him 😯 😯 😯
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Man City fans used to take giant bananas to games back in the early 1990s IIRC. Something to do with one of their players’ names – Imre Varadi – morphing into Imre Banana.
http://mcivta.com/wp0001/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/bananas.jpg
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They won’t be fighting over it when he brings it back.
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It does rather bring to mind the Blackadder episode about the warriors armed with kiwi fruit and guava halves.
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Or the Monty Python self-defence sketch about how to defend yourself against an assailant who was armed with an item of fresh fruit.
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Roland, please leave NATO out of it…
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Rangers fans used to throw potatoes on the pitch when they played Celtic.
(In addition to singing about being knee-deep in fenian blood)
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BBC 5Live” Panto” Campbells talking about a phony religion again this morning,(any guesses which one?).
So for nearly 20mins we have … its not the “tiny minority” anymore, especially after the BBC phoned a 1000 Muslims in its totally discredited, carefully worded, insignificant survey
yep!… its the teeny tiny weeny minority from now on eh!.
Utter hogwash …
Panto “all ears”, sighing and agreeing with his irritating and pontificating apologist Islamic mouthpiece.
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Example 9,00
… 8.30 mins of national news 2 mins of a Prof Gleese
who they cut off earlier then …
Good morning, we have Asfal, in the studio here with me
Achbar, on the line, Asif from Luton and Hasan from Manchester
… no this isn t Asian Network, its national BBC news radio, that only follows on from a “CAGE” extremists interview earlier
Panto starts off …
“this monolithic Muslim community? (sniggers) … its just so much more complicated than that, isn t it
Hasan, that’s just so offensive”
and bleats later, on and on about that Bloody BBC Survey.
I think that s called a stitch up … with more “plants” than Gardenworld …
how do I know?, I attempted to get on the (non) debate myself … hey ho! no one wants to hear objective critique interspersed with the hard facts. why all the talk of … “criminals” this isn t bloody crimewatch!.
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There’s no-one more arrogant, slimy and wormtongued than a convert to Islam.
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How does one go about phoning a thousand Muslims?
Is there a directory or were the numbers somehow otherwise provided?
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bBC speed dial?
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INBBC headline:
“US-Bangladesh blogger Avijit Roy hacked to death”
Re-write:
‘US-Bangladesh blogger Avijit Roy hacked to death by Muslims’
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-31656222
No outcry in Bangladeshi Islamic diaspora in U.K.
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‘Jihadwatch’-
“Bangladesh: Atheist writer hacked to death after threats from Muslims”
[Opening excerpt]:-
“Islamic jihadists act with increasing impunity against those they consider to have ‘insulted Islam,’ and the free West in response does not stand up for the freedom of speech, but increasingly practices self-censorship to conform to Sharia blasphemy laws. Avijit Roy, eternal memory.”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/02/bangladesh-atheist-writer-hacked-to-death-after-threats-from-muslims
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“Jihadis hack to death noted American writer, scientist and thinker Avijit Roy, wife injured.”
– See more at: http://pamelageller.com/2015/02/jihadis-hack-to-death-noted-writer-scientist-and-thinker-avijit-roy-wife-injured.html/#sthash.bXBAi5Ri.dpuf
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2971508/American-blogger-spoke-against-religious-extremism-hacked-death-Muslim-militant-group-Bangladeshi-street-walked-wife.html
Horrific picture –
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Radio 4 short news at 10 a.m.
It is now de rigueur for the [Labour-supporting] BBC to remind us of the NHS A&E waiting-time target of 95% of admissions to be seen within 4 hours … and any [Tory] failure to meet it. Thus, we were told that there had been a slight improvement in the percentage of patients being seen within the target time – now 92% – but that this was still below the target 95%.
Since repeating certain mantras is now regarded as news, here’s a Latin one of my own; feel free to use it ad nauseam:
DELENDA EST BBC – The BBC must be destroyed!
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Radio 4 short news at 14:00 on Saturday (before ‘Any Answers?’).
The drip drip drip of NHS scare stories continues!
Today it was some poll of NHS workers saying that things had got worse in the last two years because of lack of funding (of course, and no mention of mass immigration as a factor). All this despite ring-fencing of the NHS budget. So the BBC goes with the Labour agenda and never asks the awkward questions which would mitigate criticism of the system by explaining increased demand.
D E B
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For my sins I am currently doing a temp contract for the NHS, thankfully it’s only for a few months. Not a clinical role but office based.
I used to do public sector jobs many years ago, and I didn’t expect policies, practices, efficiency etc to have since improved..and I was right. Their systems are a right old mess.
The people seem to mean well, but it’s all haphazard, loosely managed, unplanned and Heath Robinson-ish. If a firm of auditors went in it would look like a job-creation scheme for a bunch of 40-60 yr old women with spare time on their hands.
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“Khalid al-Fawwaz guilty of US embassy bombings”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-31652380
Supplementary from Beeboids’ own achives-
60 minutes video of 1998 U.S Embassy Islamic jihad bombing, Nairobi, 1998, in 6 parts, available with search online-
Part 1 of video- Ten minutes-
“Age Of Terror – War On The West ( Part 1 Of 6 )”
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why is Nicholas Parsons talking about Islamic Jihad ?
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Last night the papers had a story on how the daughter of a victim of JJ, aka ‘Mohammed’, wanted him to have ‘a bullet between the eyes‘. Understandable, you would think, that a daughter should feel emotional, but those charged with finding and dealing with him have the law to follow. No story, really.
But the Beeb are always spoiling for a fight to push their ‘progressive’ agenda. So today’s headline is that relatives want him caught alive. The strap on the BBC NHS News Channel is ‘Relatives of victims want militant caught alive‘. So, not only are the entire army of ISIS butchers to be referred to as ‘militants’, but the most blood-thirsty scumbag of all is to be given the same ‘respect’.
It’s interesting, too, when we now know that the authorities were aware of JJ’s identity for some time – and thought they had a non-disclosure deal with the media – that the BBC story includes ‘Yesterday the police arrived at his house ‘ with a film of – you guessed it – police arriving at his house yesterday. What was the significance of that, when they knew about him ages ago? It smells like a bit of mutual PR spinning agreed by the Beeb and the Plod. Cliff Richard style?
It’s remarkable how this story – and Saville – pushed the jaw-dropping immigration figures down the order yesterday. It’s immigration that warrants a follow-up today, but instead we get this nonsense debate on ‘a bullet’ v ‘take him alive’.
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I hope he gets caught alive, too. Just very very very VERY badly mutilated.
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He’s supposed to be a good looking boy. Prison inmates like that sort of person – and I suspect the wardens will be too busy – watching.
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All the ISIS butchers need to go on a show trial like the Nazis did at Nuremburg – and NO RIGHT TO APPEAL.
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I would rather he was caught, and given over to the Kurds, or jordanians to take care of him in the fashion that he deserves.
No doubt that amnesty, and other so called human rights organizations backed up by the bbc, will be all over it like a rash demanding that he gets a fair trail.
Well! Fuck them!!!!!
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Give him to the Kurds… no, give him to the Jordanians… or maybe al_Sisi’s Egyptians… or maybe the Kurds… oh f***… give him to Mossad.
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Find him.
Bring him home.
Return him to his family.
Ask for the bucket back.
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Katie Hopkins gets it, quote from her Sun column…
“When I heard the BBC celebrating that the majority of British Muslims are opposed to those who want to fight against British interests I wanted to yank my radio from the wall and hurl it through the window of the nearest halal-only Subway.”
and
“It is time that BBC reporters were accountable for what they write and say.”
Her recent exposure on Big Brother has brought her a lot of Twitter followers, hopefully her Sun columns are opening the eyes of those who otherwise might be oblivious to the bias.
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On the run up to the general election, a huge number of ‘public’ NGO’s (Labour stuffed Quangos) were set up by Gordon Brown are due to ‘spring-into-action’ soon. But there are new limits on using faux ‘charitity’ funding of political parties before a general election – hence the new ‘Transparency Act 2014’ was made law. Remember when Blair’s government had the ‘not’ very highly qualified ‘Science Minister’ who just happened to be the well known supermarket baron and the mysterious patron of the ‘Common Purpose’ org behind the BBC. He was the largest single donator to the Labour party at the time. Lord ‘supermarket’ has also registered another (private) CASH ‘charity’ as a ‘non-party’ charity funding for the sole public purpose of promoting EU values (outside the BBC) and opposing UKip in the general election. Perhaps we should avoid THAT supermarket – as its clear that the money will veer towards BBC objectives.
http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/i-am-a/journalist/electoral-Acommission-media-centre/news-releases-donations/first-pre-general-election-donations-report-by-registered-non-party-campaigners
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Thanks for that. As it happens I’ve avoided Sainsbury’s for its Labour connections for some years now.
If that wasn’t enough the sanctimonious horror that is ‘Comic Relief’ which Sainsbury’s are all over would have done it on its own!
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I do not want to upset our many liberal readers of this blog but I was buying a paper this morning ( the Guardian of course) and overheard mild looking middle aged English women talking about the three girls who left to join Isis.
Forgiveness was not in their vocabulary neither was understanding. Removing their citizenship was the mildest I can repeat here.
No dissenting voice but then this is shire land and a million miles from the BBC la la world.
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The waycist, UKIP-voting, white van driving, St George’s flag flying, non-Oxbridge/LSE middle-aged white scum!
#SendThoseGirlsHome
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At 5-a-side last night the overwhelming 100% opinion was they will get all they deserve and can’t the rest of their families and sympathizers go too. #fuckourgirls
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But what about the girls families? You know the ones who had no idea their daughters (the very same daughters they monitor 24×7 and interrogate them when they are just 5 minutes late home from school, the very same daughters who cant go anywhere without a male chaperone) left home and went abroad without the families knowing. Of course it wouldn’t do to report them missing whilst they were still in the UK or even near a Turkish Airport or Railway Station. No they had to wait until they were sure their girls were out of harms way (the dreadful UK Police). Only then could they issue their statement about the fact they had no idea etc and ‘it’s not like them, fun loving girls’. Thus holding off being too closely questioned by the authorities who don’t want to appear Islamaphobic whilst maintaining the Kudos within the community of sending their offspring to take part in a Jihad. Other than claiming benefits and free health care, housing etc, why are these families still in the UK and have not been kicked out?
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Current BBC Home page:
Image: ‘Labour’s plan for young people’
H/L: Labour pledges £6,000 tuition fees
Current BBC News page:
All of the above, plus:
‘Ed Miliband says £9,000 tuition fees in England have been a “disaster” and sets out how Labour would fund a reduction.’
Clicking on, one… eventually… gets to the nitty gritty of that:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-31553670
‘The party is believed to be considering a pledge to cut fees from £9,000 to £6,000 in England if it wins power.’
Ah, so not so much a pledge, but a belief in a consideration of one. Clearly no space for that wee bit of context in the PR poster headline, eh, Nick, Norm, Danny, Hugs…?
Speaking of whom…
‘BBC Political Editor Nick Robinson said Labour had yet to work out how to pay for the pledge.’
Details, eh?
Interesting what ‘news’ makes the banners, and what lesser ‘not news’ doesn’t.
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I think Millitwat needs a history lesson.
The £9000 tuition fee limit was introduced as a result of the Browne Review, instigated by Labour in November 2009, 6 months before the election. The outcome was pretty much known from the start – university fees were deemed to be too low and whoever governed the country after the next election (6 months later) was going to have to increase fees. The Browne review (Labour sponsored, remember) recommended the £9000 limit.
It’s also worth pointing out to Millitwat that Labour introduced University fees in the first place, relying on MPs from north of the border to get it through – even though those MPs represented constituents that would not be affected by the fees. The West Lothian (loathsome) mafia at work.
Academia hasn’t helped itself here either. The £9000 was supposed to be top limit, not a fixed price. They can charge less if they wish.
Having recently had to do the rounds of universities with offspring it seems they’re all charging the same amount anyway so it might as well be the fixed fee. The understanding appearing to be that if they didn’t charge up to the cap, then they would be considered a “lesser” university or that student might consider the course to be in some way inferior. In any other commercial practise, this would be considered price fixing; why aren’t they being investigated in the same way that supermarkets or oil companies would be in similar circumstances?
At least Millitwat this time seems to be aiming his sights at people old enough to vote.
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Even the OU charges over £5k pa now. Might make more sense to get a job and study on the side these days …
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BBc 13:00 news still calling Mohammed Emwazi jihad john. Frank Gardner appears in the usual BBc presenter talks to BBc presenter (obviously no “experts” available) and somehow manages to drag the “right wing” in on the subject. What a tosser
Labour party political broadcast next & Millibland will cut tuition fees by a third. Funded this time not by a tax on banks but instead cutting allowances for “High earners”.
Lloyds banking group. Do you know they were bailed out by the tax payer? Lloyds group who were “bailed out” by the taxpayer the reporter on video goes on to tell us. Of course it’s a priority we must be told of bonuses being paid out. Of course the reality is a proportion of what is paid goes to the staff who aren’t on massive pay, Like those in the branches and call centres. A quick search brings up this “Salary from £14,940 to £15,770 per annum” Still keep the illusion going that all bankers are one on massive wages BBc it diverts attention from what your “talent” gets paid.
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“…Frank Gardner appears in the usual BBc presenter talks to BBc presenter (obviously no “experts” available) and somehow manages to drag the “right wing” in on the subject. What a tosser.”
Gardner’s a supercilious twit, and nothing he ever says should be taken seriously. He’s (quite literally) wheeled on to the News to impart his sneery little pearls of ‘BBC wisdom’ whenever the booking agents have failed to fill the vacancy with someone actually qualified to give a coherent opinion.
Personally I find him quite funny. I’d love to know who writes his material.
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‘Frank Gardner appears in the usual BBc presenter talks to BBc presenter (obviously no “experts” available) and somehow manages to drag the “right wing” in on the subject’
Yes, I caught this typical bit of BBC incestuous imaginary scary ‘right wing’ forced equivalence. Gardner comes over as more and more of a ponce every time he appears.
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That prick on wheels dismissed public opinion that the 3 muslim girls be forgotten about as ‘complete nonsense’
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Frank ‘don’t shoot me I’m a Muslim’ Gardner always makes me laugh period. Every time I see him I think back to that day just outside Riyadh. He would have been better saying ‘don’t shoot me I’m with the BBC’ Maybe next time he’ll think quicker on his feet (pun intended)
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As we all know, the taxpayer injected several billion pounds into Lloyds in the form of shares for equity.
Lloyds is now making a profit and paying dividends and the shares are now being sold by the Government at a profit. (The Shares have to be sold as a condition of the original injection of capital to comply with EU regulations)
So it was a profitable investment – not a bailout.
The emergency injection of funds by the last Government is probably one of the few things I agree with – however it was almost certainly at the suggestion of the BoE who no doubt run disaster recovery scenarios, rather than A Darling.
And a final note – the “£1.3 trillion” or whatever the loony left scream was the cost of the crisis is totally inaccurate. Most of the money was in the form of guarantees of creditworthiness and never actually had to be realised – and the Government made some nice earnings on fees for the service. – like they are with the loans to Ireland – borrow at 3%, ask Ireland for 6% back.
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Classic banking that
Borrow at 3, lend at 6, golf course at 3.
🙂
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Yes, that would be the Lloyds bank that was set-up for disaster by Gordon Brown, when, to save his own skin, he connived at its merger with RBS?
How strange there is no mention by the BBC of his role in its collapse. I can’t imagine why!
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Sorry, as we are reminded below, HBOS, not RBS.
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Lets not forget the BBcs part in banks problems who can forget them filming the queue outside Northern rock whilst proclaiming “Don’t panic”.
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Or financial genius Vince Cable, who started the panic by shouting ‘Fire!’ at every opportunity. He MUST have realised the consequences but he felt it more important that he be proved right than Northern Rock employees keep their jobs or shareholders their capital.
Northern Rock was a classic case of a bank being brought down by panic. As long as depositors keep their money ‘on deposit’ everything is fine, but if everyone wants their money ‘now’ most banks would fail too. If everyone keeps their seats in a theatre while a waste bin burns everyone will be fine. If everyone tries to get out many get crushed.
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ED THE HERO
Hero Ed is about to make an announcement on Tuition Fees. Cue, this morning, controversial BBC Deputy Political Editor, Norman Smith.
On the Toady programme, our Norman tells us that Miliband’s intention to reduce tuition fees is something that is, ‘Frankly very personal to Ed Miliband’. Smith likes that expression so much he emphasises it THREE times…and if that’s not enough he eulogises on, pointing out that Braveheart Ed has had to fight battles, even within his own party, to win this one
Fully briefed, up to speed and completely empathised, Smith, explains that rich future pensioners will have to pay the bill and slips in the latest BBC meme, ‘Intergenerational fairness’, a wonk phrase probably offered them by their Labour colleagues (Alastair Campbell?). We’ve been hearing that phrase from the BBC for a few weeks now, even more so since Cameron promised to retain universal pensioner benefits. ‘A bribe’, the BBC have countered at every opportunity, one BBC reporter even asked, last week, whether there should perhaps be an upper age limit for voting (these Socialists really don’t do democracy)?
Now, normally at this point when reporting Government announcements, Smith usually says, ‘But Labour say…,’ Not today though – this is a Labour announcement and rather than, ‘But the Tories say…’ he uses it to have a sly, clever little poke (such is Norman Smith’s idea of balance). The message here is that Brave Ed is being counterintuitive, taking money from pensions tax relief while, ‘the Tories are’, to use Smith’s words, ‘Straining every sinew to appeal to the grey vote’.
Yes this is the BBC line. The Tories are being cynical in appealing to the older voter…meanwhile, according to Smith, Miliband’s costly and unnecessary and bandwagon jumping reduction in tuition fees in an attempt to appeal to younger voters is nothing of the sort, it’s something, ‘Frankly very personal’.
What biased bollocks
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Anyone with a better memory than me?
Not long ago in the Daily (almost) Torygraph was a report that since tuition fees went up the number of poor (financially) students going to university had increased.
Something to do with universities having to offer bursaries etc. A little along the American line where funds are set by alumni to assist others through.
Anyone provide the link?
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Here is the report from UCAS. Page 17 is most interesting. It says;
Entry rates for disadvantaged jump by over 10 per cent to highest ever levels across the UK
Young people living in most disadvantaged fifth of areas became more likely to enter higher education in
2014 with entry rates reaching their highest ever levels across the UK.
In England the entry rate for disadvantaged 18 year olds increased by 1.7 percentage points (11 per cent
proportionally) to 18.2 per cent making disadvantaged young people in England a third more likely to enter
university in 2014 than five years ago. Entry rates for this group in England have increased every cycle since
2006 and they are now 60 per cent more likely to enter higher education than in 2006.
In Northern Ireland the entry rate increased by 1.7 percentage points (11 per cent) and in Wales by 3.0
percentage points (22 per cent).
In all three countries the change in 2014 is the largest increase recorded.
I’m not surprised that people have struggled to find this. The BBC ignored the report completely (but then again in fairness, it was GOOD news!). If of course it was the ‘disaster’ Weird Ed claims, we would have never heard the last of it.
Click to access 2014-end-of-cycle-report-dec-14.pdf
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Every April I get a call from my college asking me to stump up some cash. It goes towards bursaries for poor kids. The money’s beginning to mount up – about a third of students get some help nowadays. It’s much better than them having to depend on the whims of whatever politician might be in power at any given moment.
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My old University is the University of Westminster, yes the well known Taliban training camp. They never ask me for money, if they did they would probably want it paying in Saudi Riyals or Pakistani Rupees.
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http://www.theguardian.com/education/2014/dec/19/lower-income-students-university-tuition-fees-ucas-admissions-poorer-families
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Could the BBC do more to help the UN?
The World Health Organisation is recommending that people do not listen to more than 1 hour of music a day (see http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-31661789). Perhaps the BBC could help by scrapping Radio 1 and the racist Radio 1Xtra altogether, thereby removing a source of temptation for the Youf and Da Community?
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Great idea, or how about “you wanna listen, pay the subscription”?
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The World Service is sinking deeper into dhimmitude, with the able assistance of the likes of Lyse Doucet and Chloe Tilley. Doucet has been pushing her standard propaganda, portraying Gazans as innocent victims of war and World Service ‘editors’ have been ensuring that her bleat gets the biggest audience possible by pushing it day and night.
She teamed up with Chloe Tilley and others last night on World Have Your Say to bemoan the fact that the world is being tardy in lavishing promised billions in aid on Gaza for alleged reconstruction.
Starts at 23 minutes in. But don’t listen right after a meal:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/whys
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Perhaps building all those tunnels wasn’t the top priority after all.
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Chris Gunness insisted on that collective WHYS bleat that there was no evidence that any cement for housing was diverted for any other purpose. He claimed that UNRWA had spent 7 million dollars ensuring that no cement would be diverted.
I guess that means Hamas got a huge chunk of the 7 million with the naïve and hopelessly biased Gunness looking the other way.
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I read somewhere, maybe BBC Watch, that the cement is distributed to those who need it to rebuild their houses, all nicely above board. But then it gets surrendered to the Hamas thugs standing just out of sight round the corner.
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I thought the reconstruction of tunnels was proceeding apace.
Even the BBC report it
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Hmmm, still plugging the ‘most casualties were civilians’, I see.
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I quite agree. It’s quite troubling,not least for the Israelis to be given someone’s else’s land free of charge ,suppress the original occupants in order to set up an aryan like state ,get given billions in support from the U.S. and are forced to act surprised when someone takes offence.
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Going for volume over quality? Can work.
At this rate you’ll ‘own’ the entire ‘Recent Comment’ list.
But careful Albaman doesn’t start throwing assertions about, which he really hates.
Family lunch duties sadly call, for those of us with lives (c) A. Nother Blessing Who Dare Not Be Mentioned
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So you are viciously anti-Israel too, Mr Omnibus.
Your admiration for the BBC becomes less of a mystery by the day.
Oh, and by the way – learn your history properly instead of taking it from the Socialist Worker’s Guide to Jihad (BBC Publications).
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There never was a historical, independent nation state called Palestine.
Also, Jews lived in the region long before the Arab and Turkish Muslims invaded – and still did during the inter-war mandate.
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The stupidity and lack of basic knowledge on all subjects by Lefturds ceased to amaze me years ago.
But they couple that with inflated egos and a curious lack of self-knowledge that makes them think they are clever and anyone who doesn’t agree with them is stupid and, a favourite of theirs, uneducated.
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You appear to be utterly ignorant of the history of the Middle East. Go learn some history before you come out with such twaddle.
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Why not learn the history from Mahmoud Abbas himself who said in Al Thura the official Palestinian organisation magazine in 1976 ” The Arab armies entered Palestine to protect the Palestinians …but, instead they abandoned them forced them to emigrate….imposed upon them a political and ideological blockade and threw them into prisons similar to the ghettos in which the Jews lived in Europe”
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That’s odd…
Back before the birth of Christ, the Romans conquered the area and found it to be full of people of the Jewish faith who didn’t take too kindly to the intrusion.
Perhaps those with a better grasp of history could…. oh don’t…
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Sorry, there’s something in your message we can’t write. Please remove the ‘C’ word. We suggest you use ‘jihad’, ‘Buddha’ or ‘Allah’ instead.
This instruction comes courtesy of not just any sickening supermarket …
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On today’s Toady we had Jim Naughtie earnestly interviewing a couple of saps about Jihadi John and how come such a lovely bloke got radicalised.
Apparently a very elusive tiny monority is responsible. ‘Where are these people?’ asks Naughtie, wide-eyed (well I can only guess he was, it being radio an’ all) ‘Are they on our streets?’ Jim, lad, where’ve you been for the last 15 years? Never heard of the bookshops, the book stalls, or seen the gender-segregated protests featuring Islamo-nutters with their anti-Western placards. As ChrisL might say, this is our Jim acting all scared of Islam in his own unique, politically-correct way.
Never mentioned:
Islam
Muslim
Mosque
University
Jihad
Koran
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BBC 24 Political mouthpiece Vicki Young Interviewed Mark Reckless, UKIP MP this afternoon.
She opened by saying, ‘Your leader Nigel Farage travelled thousands of miles to give a speech to an empty room’.
She was referring to the CPAC event he was invited to in the USA. The room was certainly not empty.
Why is she allowed to lie for the purpose of diminishing Farage?
Reckless avoided the bait, and gave quite a account of himself and UKIP.
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‘Why is she allowed to lie for the purpose of diminishing Farage?’
Because she can, DS. The BBC make Frank Nitti and his boys look very touchable indeed.
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The room was not totally empty – but there were very very few people present. It sounds like a wasted trip when Farage should have been concentrating on his big Margate conference, essentially the kick-off of UKIP’s campaign. It is not just the BBC that saw what a thin audience Farage had at CPAC.
(By the way – I saw a report on a US site saying that on the way to CPAC he flew over the Potomac – which was frozen over. Gloabal Warming ? What Global Warming ?
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‘The room was not totally empty’
Hence, if as quoted, Ms. Young was either woefully misinformed (Jasmine Lawrence in the production suite?) or… lying.
Neither seems great for the BBC at this time.
Meanwhile, here’s what I read on the trip in this morning’s Graun:
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/feb/27/nigel-farage-charms-us-republicans-ukip
Evidently it can get used as much as all else for what is news… or not.
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Is anyone worth 11 million pounds?
Heard that twice today from the BBC, on both occasions querying the pay packet of Lloyds Bank’s Chief Exec.
There was a brief mention (blink and you would have missed it) that he is actually well on his way to safeguarding the taxpayer billions – with interest – pumped into the bank after the disastrous shotgun merger with the basket case HBOS engineered by G Brown (no, like ‘End to boom and bust’, never gets a mention on the BBC).
So yes, you effing morons, he is well worth it. Do a contrast and compare with Wayne Rooney, if your tiny little leftist intellects can free themselves from the moral realtivist contortions they seem to spend most of their time in these days.
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Worth more than the sofa sloths if nothing else.
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But he won’t get £11m, much of that will be handed over to the taxman.
I am another that doesn’t mind one jot how much people earn as long as they pay their taxes. It means that the Government don’t have to come to me or other basic rate taxpayers to top up the revenue lost by people domiciling elsewhere.
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Please stop being logical and rational!
The fact that profits = tax income = public services has not dawned on the BBC or it’s leftist fellow travellers.
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The BBC, and certainly front office… well, facing staff getting excited, variably, by market rate salaries always strikes me as quite brave.
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Boom and bust refers to economic cycles not a banking crash brought about by activities in the US.
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Just showing your ignorance again.
In what way were the banking models of Northern Rock, Bradford and Bingley and HBOS anything to do with American sub-prime lending?
P.S This has all been explained you before, but like any socialist you just keep on bleating your mantras regardless, in the hope that if you do it often enough people will start to believe you.
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“In what way were the banking models of Northern Rock, Bradford and Bingley and HBOS anything to do with American sub-prime lending?”
“On 12 September 2007, Northern Rock asked the Bank of England, as lender of last resort in the United Kingdom, for a liquidity support facility due to problems in raising funds in the money market to replace maturing money market borrowings. The problems arose from difficulties banks faced over the summer of 2007 in raising funds in the money market.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationalisation_of_Northern_Rock
And for a fuller examination of the linkages:
http://www.economist.com/news/schoolsbrief/21584534-effects-financial-crisis-are-still-being-felt-five-years-article
“Trust, the ultimate glue of all financial systems, began to dissolve in 2007—a year before Lehman’s bankruptcy—as banks started questioning the viability of their counterparties. They and other sources of wholesale funding began to withhold short-term credit, causing those most reliant on it to founder. Northern Rock, a British mortgage lender, was an early casualty in the autumn of 2007.”
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Banks failed when too many people failed to repay their loans.
The people who defaulted has made a misjudgement.
The people had judged based on what they were hearing from trusted sources.
The source that should have been most trustworthy had assured the people ‘We have abolished boom and bust’.
Who said that?
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Thanks for supporting my argument, Albaman, namely that the business models of Northern Rock et al were unsustainable because of their huge dependence on the inter-bank money market and nothing to do with sub-prime. They were borrowing something like 12 X what they held in customer deposits. Had the B of E still held its supervisory responsibility those models would never have been allowed to develop in the first place. Equally they would have been on HBOS’s case as soon as they spotted an over-emphasis on buy-to-let lending.
Brown turned his blind eye to this financial powder keg because it was fuelling his ‘boom’.
Got that, Mr Omnibus?
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There was a clear link between the sub prime crisis and the availability of funding to Northern Rock.
Just because you can’t (or do not want to see it) does not mean that it did not exist.
“The money markets have been afflicted with a crisis of confidence since the beginning of August. Sub prime mortgages in the United States had begun to go sour as borrowers began defaulting.”
“Confidence dropped in the money markets (the markets for short term loans). Banks, worried about their own exposure (and unable to quantify it properly) became reluctant to lend to each other, fearing other banks may be worse off. Debt markets froze. The banks kept high levels of cash to themselves.”
http://www.stephenbeer.com/Articles/165195/Stephen_Beer/Economy/Northern_Rock_and.aspx
“By 2006, Northern Rock had captured 7 percent of the U.K. mortgage market and in the first half of 2007 such was the pace of expansion that it accounted for almost 10 percent of gross mortgage lending in the U.K. Then along came the credit crunch – beginning in August 2007 when growing concerns about exposure to US sub-prime mortgage assets led international wholesale markets including those in the UK to seize up.
Northern Rock came under pressure, as suddenly the supply of loan finance on which it depended simply dried up. ”
http://tutor2u.net/economics/revision-notes/a2-macro-creditcrunch.html
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There is no evidence that any banker ever put a gun to a borrower’s head and threated to shoot them if they didn’t sign. Ultimate responsibility lies with the individual. Paid over the odds? Why did they do that? Did they listen to the man who saved the world?
That would explain it.
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Not sure what your point is but if you had read the articles cited above you would “see clearly” that Northern Rock did not have a significant problem with customers defaulting on their loans (Northern Rock’s assets).
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The whole rotten system was a house of cards. It was bound to collapse – which card falls first is irrelevant. I’m not able to see how blaming US sub-prime assists your argument; it just looks like one more piece of politically-correct nonsense gone wrong. Plenty more where that came from.
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“it just looks like one more piece of politically-correct nonsense gone wrong”
Interesting argument – care to expand on how a statement of fact can be “politically-correct nonsense”?
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The mix of well-intentioned social engineering and Wall Street creativity that gave us the housing bubble and that put millions of blacks (temporarily) in homes that they couldn’t afford is one of the big disasters of American social policy history.
Subprime Crisis Hurts Blacks Worst
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In the spirit of off-topicality, with rain pausing play I thought I’d pop in for a cuppa and… here you are already!
Like you never left, and even managing to get a thread to a point when the Reply option gives out.
Wicked skills, ‘man.
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There was a clear link between the sub prime crisis and the availability of funding to Northern Rock.
Only in the sense that the banks suddenly stopped lending each other money, as you might expect when banks start going bust.
Northern Rock were massively exposed as they funded their lending predominantly from the inter-bank market. As I keep repeating and you keep ignoring, the B of E would never have allowed Northern Rock (or B and B, or HBOS, or RBS) to develop such precarious business models and/or have so much of their lending in one sector and/or lend on such generous multiples (remember 125% mortgages?).
‘It was the first run on a British bank for more than 140 years but five years on from the collapse of Northern Rock, could it happen again? The short answer is maybe – but global and UK officials have responded with regulatory fixes, including some that could have made a difference.
In retrospect, it was clear that the bank’s business model of relying on short-term funding from the wholesale market to make long-term mortgage loans was inherently vulnerable to a loss of confidence.
This problem was compounded by three key factors. Northern Rock’s rapid growth was fuelled by aggressive lending to dubious borrowers. Its supervisors at the Financial Services Authority were distracted and philosophically disinclined to question its business plan and risk models. And the Newcastle-based bank exploited loose bank safety rules, leaving it with very little equity to absorb unexpected losses.’
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7bb1ab1a-fc00-11e1-af33-00144feabdc0.html#axzz3T9fQ6oNS
You obviously don’t undertsand banking, the concept of risk and how important the B of E was to the regulatory framework.
But then, as a BBC/Labour/Brown supporter, that comes as no surprise.
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compare with Wayne Rooney…
not to mention Walker Crisps and his two million quid a year of licence fees.
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Irony.
On the Daily Politics there was an item about ‘attack adds’ which Mr Neil assured us were not permitted on TV in the UK because political advertising was banned! Well it may well be on his programmes, but 90% of the BBC Current Affairs and News output on domestic matters is blatant advertising for Labour. I reckon that without the massive free propaganda that the Labour receives, courtesy of the state funded broadcaster, Labour would have been in power very much less than it has been in the past 50 years and the countries politics much more right leaning.
Which begs the question , why don’t the Tories deal with the BBC? Judging by yesterday’s report on the future of the funding of the corporation, it looks as though the Tories are going to accept that the BBC should remain a state funded, near monopoly. They must be bonkers to allow its malign influence to continue to undermine their party and democracy in our country.
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Beebinator, there are no Conservatives in the upper echelons of the ‘Conservative’ party. On the major issues that concern the UK: the EU, mass immigration, incompatible Islam, there is little to separate Cameron, Milliband or the BBC ‘narrative’. Look at this week’s immigration figures, for example, or Cast Iron Dave’s serial grovelling to the RoP. Or his wish to remain in the EU. It’s hard to see what the beeboids could really find objectionable about Cameron’s policies; & he’s sanctioned gay marriage – he should be sitting cosily in Evan Davis’ lap, perhaps he does, two metropolitan progressives with much in common, despite the charade the BBC indulges in to paint the PM as some sort of pinstriped devil from the 1922 Committee. A charade designed to trick the audience into thinking there really is a difference between our major politicians.
The BBC is quite safe in Cameron’s hands. He is part of the left-liberal progressive Establishment, & the BBC is its broadcasting arm. He understands this. He is a manager, not a politician with conviction. If a real Conservative leader emerged & turned his/her eye on the BBC & its guaranteed income, on its job-creation scheme for the Oxford/LSE ‘intelligentsia’, the beeboids would be shitting themselves. As it is, this seems unlikely to happen. The BBC’s depiction of a parallel Britain that is marching onwards to a ‘progressive’ paradise will continue – it will probably speed up & get madder. Anything that disturbs this triumphant march, such as the recent muslim demo in Whitehall, an event of great significance, is quite blatantly ignored. That glaring omission is testament to what the BBC is really about. They couldn’t have done anything different. It was just too hot to handle.
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UKIP is a better vehicle for modern conservative thought
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Indeed. Melanie Phillips best sums up whats gone wrong with the Conservative Party. Fast forward to 3:45 to avoid the disgusting Labour Party plant in the audeince
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oops forgot to put the link in, i’ll have to stop working in the pub on a friday afternoon
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Dimbleby allows a member of the audience to continually heckle and argue with a panel member, a unique occurrence even by Question Time standards.
Call that chairmanship? Call that impartial? Still gobsmacking even after several viewings.
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Standard QT fare really. Lefty shills interrupting and haranguing those they disagree with whilst Dimbleby looks on and does nothing. Tory puts shills in place and suddenly Dimbleby remembers he has a job to do.
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That is one of the best answers to the ‘why don’t the Tories do somethng about the BBC?’ question that we have seen on here. Bravo!
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Yes GCooper
Where is Mr ‘Essex Man’ on this ?
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I have been at work Becca , but I too want the Bbc cut back a lot . A licence fee of about £50 , the rest subscription . Its never going to be abolished , but Ukip , will not ,boot out all muslims , close down all mosques , or close down the Bbc . Its not going to happen , I am sure many of the biased bbc posters are ex BNP or NF , because a lot of these policies on your Ukip wish list ,just won`t happen .
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…. Its not going to happen…
Fair enough – if you don’t vote UKIP it won’t happen. But you – and most people – are ostriches who think they can stick their head in the sand and things will just stay as they are now. They won’t. There will be economic upheaval; poverty will visit a lot of people who today vote ‘safe’ so as not to rock the boat. And Islam will achieve restrictions on liberty that will suffocate our society. The choice – literally – is yours.
BTW: I’m not ex NF, BNP or anything similar.
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Well Essex Man, they are certainly not happening under the Tories ….
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-2969577/Net-migration-stats-revealed.html
Cameron has not kept his promise to the British people. Also, I don’t want a £50 licence fee, in fact I don’t want a licence fee at all. Why cant it be abolished ?
PS. I have never posted a wish list.
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PS Essex Man,
I have never been a member of the NF or the BNP. I am afraid you you have fallen for the media propaganda.
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Your wasting your breath Becca ‘Essex Man’ doesn’t care about the country, morale ,spiritual or material all he worries about is wether Milliband will put twopence halfpenny on the rates
That s why he’s happy to vote for a party that does this
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/02/27/christian-school-where-ofsted-branded-pupils-bigots-will-close-education-secretary-confirms/
That’s his ‘conservative’ party and he’s welcome to it. The problem is the rest of us who do care about something other than this quarters dividend will have to suffer for his selfishness.
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Yeah well , when Millipeed / SNP take over on about 9th / 10th May , I hope you enjoy the next 5 years of ,more Bbc bias , more immigration , more PC restrictions , more anti English policies, plus much more . There will be No EU referendum , every thing ,you want won`t happen , but the reverse will. I am just saying , Millipeed / Marxist / SNP pollicies, a Warning from History. No Ukip policies will be enacted , because ,you think the Tories are not right wing enough , so we will get 5 years of the Millipeed /Marxist ones instead. Come mid May ,don`t say I did not warn you what will happen . Enjoy the jackboot of Comrade Millipeed .
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Essex Man, I wish you were wrong, but I fear you are correct. UKIP are already moving to the centre, sacking members for not being PC -oops councillor Blogs said ‘brown’ sack him. UKIP do not object to more mosques, and Nige kept away from the far right Palin and Tea Party.
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Agree. I think it was F A Hayek who warned of the inexorable slide of politics to the Left once you have a big state … and the BBC epitomizes the big state.
Thus, even UKIP are dragged leftwards because they dare not rock the boat and risk [BBC-orchestrated] unpopularity by raising the NHS funding issue or that of the nature (rather than simply numbers) of those pouring into the UK from the EU and the Third World.
I do sympathize with Essex Man; there are only hard options at this moment: vote UKIP on principle and risk a Miliband/SNP alliance or swallow hard and vote for the pink Tories on the basis that you hope they will be a little less bad than the Left.
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Thanks Llareggub , some people behave on here in the same way as SWP / UAF ,they claim to despise , by shouting down any reasonable debate , because they don`t like what they hear .Its almost becoming like the “Life of Brian” scene ,” What have the Roman`s ever done for us “.
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Essex Man, if a few more Conservatives had voted UKIP in Heywood and Middleton, the Labour party you rightly excoriate would have lost the seat. UKIP will win a significant bridgehead of seats in May and will be the only alternative to Labour throughout Wales, the Midlands and the North. There is something seriously wrong with your party when it is not even competing in these areas any more. Get out of the way in the North and let UKIP beat Labour.
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That would be as opposed to the unbiased and scrupulously fair BBC we’ve had since Cameron seized power, would it?
We heard this twaddle at the last election. Look how it turned out.
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EssexMan,
Agree 100% with your analysis, unfortunately it seems that the majority of the commentators on this site have decided that UKIP is the way forward.
Don’t agree with many of the more extreme views, however, apart from some misguided attacks on the Conservatives a sizeable portion of the posts on this site are valid..
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OK – opposing case in a nutshell. You see two big issues; the economy and immigration, with the economy as the most important. Others see it as pretty irrelevant. The economy is a ‘house of cards’ at the minute, a big crash is inevitable anyway, probably better if it comes early under Milliband. A united society can pick itself up after any crash – it’s been done before. Mass immigration, OTOH, will obliterate the tolerant, liberal society that has developed over centuries. We are headed for the fate of the Roman Empire. History will record that it all worked out well, but future Amazon customers will only have a choice of history books by someone with first name ‘Mohammed’.
Cameron will not get control of immigration. That is clear now. He didn’t promise a referendum in 2010, but he spun a yarn about having one ‘if blah, blah, blah’, knowing that the situation wouldn’t arise. He’s a dissembler – you need to face up to it. He promised to re-negotiate open borders, but has recently backed away from that after Merkel put her foot down. Now he is crafting subtle PR spin to big-up trivial benefit changes. Blind allegiance to that man will lead us to disaster.
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Very apt . The problem for the BBC is that things really are speeding up and the BBC is losing it. Not reporting the March on Sunday was a major eye opener.
I forsee the BBC completely imploding into a babbling bunch of mad chipmunks ( apologies to chipmunks nice little creatures but very zizzy)
At which point the only people listening or watching will be themselves.
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But Farage does not want to be PM , he said so ,& he wants to give up Ukip leadership by 2020 .Look at the other Ukip MEP`s , they all look a bit like the Major ,in Faulty Towers , the Labourites you are after, won`t vote for them in 2020 . Only 2 people can be PM in May , the Millipeed or Cam . Most of you want The Millipeed ,well your welcome to him , I just hope he gets assassinated after a few months .
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“….why don’t the Tories deal with the BBC?”
Because they are not Tories. They are no different from the last Blair government. Until people start actually waking up that we have, at present, a one party state, this nonsense will continue until such time as the lid comes off.
And that’s exactly what these traitors are planning, Please, please stop this nonsense of right and left.
It no longer exists. You’re being played off.
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Whilst I’d agree that the current mob are not traditional Tories that still does not explain why they don’t act against the BBC. The BBC hate anyone with a blue rosette even and especially those they went to school with. They are totally and unequivocally for Labour. It’s not a question of policies it is a question of teams.
So just self interest should get the Tories motivated on curbing the BBC and at the very minimum ensuring that they obey their charter. Otherwise they lose out on all those lovely perks of being an MP. Let’s face it; that what the vast majority of MPs care about the most.
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‘…why don’t the Tories deal with the BBC? ‘
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Because Cameron is
a) a dripping wet libby-wibby and …
b) pig-thick.
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The BBC have a new website and are asking for comments on it.
Opportunity knocks – tell them what we feel.
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I would, but last time they invited comments – on the World Service website – they didn’t want mine because I’m not British.
Bloody cheek – they pump out propaganda worldwide, but they won’t accept comments from their worldwide audience.
And of course their ‘complaints’ website is a bad joke.
The BBC now concentrates mostly on Twitter and Facebook to pump out propaganda – ideal media for the short-attention-span generation, and of course it’s a simple matter to block ‘incorrect’ comments, Orwell fashion.
They’ve rendered the old comment websites all but redundant but we oldies recall a useful bit of info, and something the BBC never advertises. If you want to rub their faces in their bias in the hope of moderating their behaviour you can email BBC hacks by simply using the following address:
name.surname@bbc.co.uk
Occasionally they even reply to your complaint.
And believe it or not, you can even get a rare admission of BBC wrongdoing by this method.
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The BBC NHS News Channel has a special on Marine Le Pen tomorrow, presented by Robert Peston. Strange choice, given that Peston is Economics Editor. Still; his strong support for Common Purpose will give him a unique perspective on a lady not known as a True Believer.
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Didn’t Peston claim to be a Beeboid economist?
Now, he’s an expert in French politics?
The easy ‘diversity’ of it all.
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At first I was puzzled why business expert Peston would cover Marine le Pen and French politics. Le Pen has set out to defend French culture against Islamisation and has incurred the wrath of the UAF, Left Unity, the TUC, NHS workers and many in the Labour Party who protested against her speaking at the Oxford Union. But the left see this as racism and attribute increasing support for Le Pen in traditional Marxist terms – austerity, unemployment feeds fascism, they say. Its not Islamic culture that is a problem; its capitalist austerity and how the capitalists divide and rule, playing off muslims against the indigenous French. Hence Peston will focus on the French economy and how its problems inspire racism and feeds islamophobia. Throw off the shackles of capitalism mein comrades and there will be no Islamophobia or need to protect French culture.
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Actually, I suspect she and Peston might have a lot of economics in common.
And that isn’t a compliment to either of them.
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Peston is the son of a Labour peer but chooses not to use his title of ‘The Honorable Mr Robert Peston’. That should answer any questions about his coverage of a right wing politician.
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But that’s the point. Sadly, Marine le Pen isn’t a ‘Right wing politician’. Her party’s economic politics are rather old Labour.
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‘a special on Marine Le Pen tomorrow, presented by Robert Peston’
Here’s wishing our Robert all the best with his job application for editor of the Guardian
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londoners-diary/londoners-diary-hard-toil-at-the-guardian-to-find-its-new-leader-10053892.html?origin=internalSearch
‘The job may instead go to one of more than 20 external candidates who have applied anonymously. Only one name has so far been leaked: the BBC’s Robert Peston’.
Hmmmm…
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/jun/06/bbc-obsessed-agenda-daily-mail-robert-peston-charles-wheeler
‘Robert Peston: BBC follows the Daily Mail’s lead too much’
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The Beeb have scooped many tonight . Leonard Nimoy has died. As a lifelong Trekkie it’s a sad night for me. To his family and colleagues I say ” I Grieve With Thee.”
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Live Long & Prosper . Mr Spock.
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And in other news…
http://tradingaswdr.blogspot.co.uk/2015/02/uptown-funk.html?
Should really be on ‘The Future of the BBC’ thread, but here’ll do.
Some seem very confident about where countries, and state media will be, decades hence, in honouring deals.
Too in hock to fail?
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Looks like the greens have packed out the Bristol studio for tonights exciting episode of any Questions.
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just 20 minutes into any questions tonight on radio 4 and it has to be the most left wing biased audience i have heard in years,the howls of screams and cheering when that idiot from the green party natalie bennett spoke and that idiot from the labour party emma reynolds was deafening,every time the ukip guy spoke and talked sense he got hissed and howled at by this rancid socalist workers partry type audience,it is pathetic and the bbc back to its left wing biased best in picking the audience for any questions.
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Seems like the NOW show audience are in.
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Bristol is famously a pseudo left leaning Bohemian city, but there is something more than meets the ear going on with this audience. Natalie B-B-B-Bennett cheered to the rafters after every answer, and the admittedly ridiculously bombastic UKIP MEP David Coburn booed at jeered.
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Bristol ain’t the Green Capital of Europe for no reason.
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I thought that was Brighton – which has a green council, however, they have managed to alienate the majority of the residents and will be kicked out during the next local elections.
Bet the BBC fail to cover this disastrous story of what happens when the greens have an opportunity to practise what they preach!
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I know UKIP has not a lot of talent to draw from as it’s all very new, but honestly this guy tonight did it no favours, jumping in, going way off subject to make his “point” not just hanging back and pushing some obvious telling points, such as where all the electric power, water, food is going to come from for 600,000 a year, why do we need to steal medical staff from third world countries such as Mali ( as said by the Malian foreign minister in a speech in Manchester ). The guy ought to have drawn attention to the obvious fact he was surrounded by students, he ought to have engaged one or two of them to show up the naivety of their views. That the country needs to slow down and draw breath for the good of all. Sorry I wouldn’t vote for him, far too irritating, someone seriously needs to tell him, less is more.
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I disagree. He had some great points. For instance he ponted out that we are stealing doctrors and nurses from other countries (booing in the background) whilst the left keep accusing us of stealing everything in history under the guise of colonialism. Surely they dont want us stealing other countries qualified key workers, do they??
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I am still baffled as to why any u kip politicians would go on in the first place
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The orchestrated slow hand clapping of the UKIP guy was unpleasant; credit to Bumblepuppy J. for stopping them but questions have to be asked about the audience selection, when the wild applause for Greens & Leftists is out of proportion to their share of the vote. I’m reminded of the growling dogs in Orwell’s “Animal Farm” and the intimidation of the more docile animals by them.
The collective response to the 298,000 nett immigration figure for the year to Sept 2014 was very poor: nobody pointed out the seriousness of it and even the UKIP guy had to keep off the question of who was coming in. Self-censorship is the most effective sort and the rotten BBC has been promoting it for years.
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Dimbleby blatantly allowed that clown Bennett to have another go at answering her unfunded 500,000 homes question. She accounted for approx. £5Bn of the £27Bn bill and then he let her off the hook. All greeted with rapturous applause by the baying crowd.
I agree that the UKIP chap didn’t cover himself in glory but I liked the bit at the end where Davey was banging on about the requirement for zero carbon homes and Cockburn said they want homes not zero carbon homes. Davey started to try and play the global warming BS when Cockburn called it a middle class obsession – quite right.
AQ was shameful last night.
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Dimbleby an utter disgrace.
Quick to remind the kipper who the Chairman is and slow to remind his thuggy UAF chums in the audience.
From Gerry Adams, Hamas, to Jihad John and UAF dross, my how every droid loves the smell of outlaw leather.
And is there any amount of billons the green idiot can promise to spend of our money and which will be ‘costed in the manifesto’ at which the shouties and manic clappers in the audience think ‘yeah, you’re just being silly now’?
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The audience makes me
Want to charge immature students £120 000 a month to encourage them to get a real job instead
Give up on them and hope they’re all swamped and outbred by those immigrants they think bring nothing but joy to their lives .
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Yorkshire regional news
On ITV’s Calendar, Milliband said that Amina Ali had withdrawn her candidacy for Bradford West because of family commitments. According to The Times this wasn’t the true reason. It was because she was scared by the Pakistani clan wars in the constituency. Switching to the BBC’s Look North we have detailed confirmation of this. Rather surprisingly the BBC had quite an item about the unsavoury carryings on amongst the Bradford Pakistani ‘community’. So Milliband told a direct lie. The BBC item was only spoilt by the fact that it was presented by an Asian woman who had very poor English.
Fred.
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I thought the true reason was to give Galloway an easy ride in agreement he wouldn’t run for London mayor?
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no wonder why there was no ukip supporters in the any questions audience tonight,bristol is a hotbed of anarchists and marxism.
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While the BBC are carrying stories of how wonderful Millipedes cuts in university funding is, and hardly anything about the tidal wave of criticism, there is a report of a major rift developing in the Labour party reported in the Manchester Evening News.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/labour-faces-rift-party-over-8728399
“Shadow health secretary believed to be ‘furious’ after not being kept in loop by members of own party”
And this from a Labour supporting subsidiary of the Mirror Group, which shows just how far left the BBC actually is.
Again with their Salford news operation it’s inconceivable that the BBC aren’t well aware of this, it’s just that they don’t want to publicise it.
The article is worth a read.
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I truly believe that the BBC has decided to throw any last remaining shreds of caution to the wind. From its ridiculous fawning over Islam to its naked cheer leading for Milliband, it has dropped any pretence. It simply doesn’t care what anyone not of its persuasion thinks – it knows we can do nothing to stop it.
Yet, of course. There is always the future.
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BBC are carrying stories of how wonderful Millipedes cuts in university funding is. There are far too many kids leaving school and going to university to study worthless ‘Mickey Mouse’ and ‘artyfarty’ degrees where there are no associated jobs at there end of them. Tuition fees should be provided for students studying for degrees in engineering, sciences and the medical field. The country is crying out for them.
The rest should not waste their time, get a job in the real world, and earn some money.
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No, pally. Bristol is waiting to vote UKIP along with the rest of the country. It’s just the locus of the BBC, Bristol University, Merchant Venturers, City Council, Freemasons, Mad Mayor, FirstBus, Kerry McCarthy, Dawn Primarolo and Uncle Tom Cobbley and all! It’s never been good here, but always interesting. And there are still enough righteous citizens to make a difference.
Come on my lovelys!
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You forgot Tony Benn!
Got family in Bristol every time I visit I get a bloody speeding ticket with the bloody random inexplicable speed limits and bus lanes.
Obliviously I can’t say for sure but said family claim they’re all voting UKIP.
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Thanks, Geoff. I’ve always said that if you can drive in Bristol (without accident or going mad) you can drive anywhere on Earth.
Gert Lush!
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Kirsty Squawk on Newsnight: First UK Pegida march in Newcastle tomorrow.
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Just watch how our lugenpresse covers it.
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It’s funny how they can report on that but not the invisible demo in Whitehall a couple of weeks ago.
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Still waiting for a reply to my complaint about the template reply to my complaint about the non reporting of the cults demo.
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The News Quiz on Radio 4 tonight, just about covered all bases with snide remarks and fun poking at all political parties, except…..LABOUR. Not a mention, but then there never is. For the life of me I cannot think why that would be? Maybe Dez can suggest something?
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It’s interesting to see how the usual BBC supporters scuttle away like cockroaches when there are no easy pickings to be had – and some hard questions to answer.
Right now, the usual suspects would have to find some sort of excuses for the BBC’s disgusting interview with CAGE, its craven refusal to report the infamous London march, its daily cheer leading of ‘Labour says’ headlines, relentless campaigning against UKIP, tireless boo-hooing over the ‘innocent schoolgirls’, failure to pursue Jack Straw as it did Rifkind, packing its audiences with radicals…
Not hard to see why they are lurking beneath the fridge waiting for easier times, is it?
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Bit hard on cockroaches. They ,being cockroaches , must do what cockroaches do.
The BBC I suppose must also do what it must do. Which is to make itself look even more stupid by the day.
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Re Nigel Farage address to CPAC in the US, there are three things to note. The audience was based at the back and at the front with none in the middle. Seat allocation was not well done. Plus his address was at dinner time! Which explains the reduced numbers in a big way. The Daily Mail said there were around 1000+ attendees, “more than a thousand stayed into the dinner hour to hear him.” (D Mail). Impressive if people postponed their supper after a long day to listen to him!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2971383/UKIP-chief-Nigel-Farage-warns-Republican-Party-sticks-establishment-LOSE.html
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According to the Times, Farage went out of his way to avoid contact with Palin. Is he getting afraid that connections witht the tea party will damage him
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I see the bBC has decided to report on Islamic terrorist apologists cage over that beautiful boy statement they made about JIah (John) Mohammed.
Cage: Important human rights group or apologists for terror?
As details emerged about the identity of “Jihadi John”, the masked Islamic State militant pictured in several hostage videos, questions started to arise about Cage, the advocacy group that had been in close contact with the man now known to be called Mohammed Emwazi between 2009 and 2012. Cage has caused controversy by suggesting that MI5 harassment could have contributed to the radicalisation of the Kuwaiti-born computer graduate who grew up in west London. Human rights groups say they are doing “vital work” but critics have called the organisation “apologists for terror”
Really , it seems that the bBC have thrown in their prayer mat with Allahs finest and now openily defend intolerant Islamic propoganda Human rights orgs as ‘Important Human rights group.”
I quote from the bBC
“Cage said Mohammed Emwazi had sought their assistance after being interrogated by a British security official in the Netherlands following an attempted visit to Tanzania.”
So, he wasn’t radicalised when he picked up a Koran?
He wasn’t radicalised hanging around with Jiahist thugs in London
He wasn’t radicalised when he was stopped by the Tanzanians when they refused him entry into the country as a back door into Somalia (Why did they ban him?)
the same with Kuwait
Yet a blood thirsty follower of his namesake who we are told don’t fear death, was worried shitless by a few questions ask to him in a foreign country. Anyway the bBC in trying to whitewash Cage, never bother to report that Beautiful boy statement. I wonder why?
The bBC, the propaganda arm for Islamic terrorism.
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BBC Newsnight,
Over a Pegida march, in Newcastle bleating on and on about … Islamofauxbia? .. as if it is a bonafide issue?
… not a false construct specifically designed to silence justified criticism of the dangerous ideology Islam…
Absolutely disgraceful bias, and less than 24hrs after all that shameless pandering giving Sucre and airtime to the extremists from “Cage”!
scrap the BBC! … now!
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b054302t/newsnight-27022015
22mins
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BBC=lugenpresse. Sums it up.
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They forgot to mention the 4 muslims convicted of going “Jew Bashing” a couple of weeks back in neighbouring Gateshead.
The local MP seems to forget the Jews but harps on about perceived slurs on the muslims.
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memories like a sieve over at beeb towers.
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BBC R4 say that Pegida UK is anti-immigration. I don’t believe the BBC. Pegida is not against East European or African Christian culture, Indian Hindu or Sikh culture or Asian Buddhist culture.
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Rather like the EDL being called “extreme right” by the Hij-Beeb when there are Israeli flags and Sikhs on their demos.
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Socialist Worker Party scum get in on the act… they are the enemy and treacherous filth.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2972955/Nauseating-odious-press-conference-apologists-terror-gooders-fund-them.html
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Charlie the auto cue reader reports wild panda numbers are up 17% to 1800 why don’t they mention the far better story that Polar bear numbers are up 400 % since the 1960’s to around 25,000
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At almost an hour, it is interesting what those with evident editorial integrity can clear schedules for to educate and inform the country properly.
Plus wall to wall facilitation from dawn to Newsnight.
At least some at Sky provided context and then challenged it, while the BBC seems to have simply found a new PR client.
Tell it often enough, Aunty.
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Yes, Alex, and the Socialist Worker Party control the UAF, which is supported by Cameron.
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Watched the Joy Division documentary last night. According to auntie the social degradation experienced by the band was all Thatchers fault. She wasn’t even in power when they released their first album an for under a year when they released their second before Curtis topped himself.
They then state that Joy Division were responsible for Manchester’s regeneration. Not the evil Thatcher.
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WWF on BBC have cleared the Panda bit up apparently if you build a road through the wilderness where they live it isolates them so if you have a panda either side of the road the population will dwindle right well I’m sold
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Its amazes me how much adulation the bBC give both Joy Division and the Smiths.
Its can’t be for their commercial success, neither bettered the Top 10 during their careers, must be for some other reason? yes they were the antithese of Mrs T.
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John Peels influence was not felt in the underage teen schools of Texas you know!
His lugubrious Scouse impression and willingness to hop any passing bandwagon was the very template of guilt-ridden white public school toffs who wished to “be cool and to make it” in the BBC and its cultural Elitay Palces like the Gurdain or Home Office.
So-as he donned his blagged trenchcoat and gladioli up the rump-all that Peel “blessed” gets BBC 4 wet at the gusset.
Where else would Nazi terms like Joy Division and New Order get an untroubled name check for a whole evening.
Mozzas views on China also seem not to bring on the hate crime police of the BBC do they?
Spineless Wankaz all!
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Quite right. That ridiculous fake Scouse accent from a public school boy (who admitted to having sex with underage girls in the states).
His son goes by the name of Tom Ravenscroft and is a DJ for the …the BBC!
Nepotism, expensively educated pretend proles and hebephilia. What a surprise at the Hij-Beeb.
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R4 Today 07:10 – Item about the Pegida march in Newcastle today. Clip of Pegida member saying “We’re not right-wing or Nazis – we’re just raising awareness that extremist Islam is a major problem in this country”. Jim Naughty grumbles “not right-wing, not Nazis and want to raise awareness that Islam is a problem” – humph! Quite a contradiction there’.
And there you have the naked, liberal-lefty, hand-wringing, self-loathing and dhimitude of the BBC establishment in a nut shell. You MUST be a NAZI if you think Islam is ‘a problem’!
They also pointed out that these will be a counter demonstration by an organisation named ‘Newcastle Unite’ that would be the utterly fascist UAF one supposes – so why not say so?
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R4 Today 07:10 – Item about the Pegida march in Newcastle today. Clip of Pegida member saying “We’re not right-wing or Nazis – we’re just raising awareness that extremist Islam is a major problem in this country”. Jim Naughty grumbles “not right-wing, not Nazis, and want to raise awareness that Islam is a problem – Quite a contradiction there”.
And there you have the naked, liberal-lefty, hand-wringing, self-loathing and dhimitude of the BBC establishment in a nut shell. You MUST be a NAZI if you think Islam is ‘a problem’!
They also pointed out that there will be a counter demonstration by an organisation named ‘Newcastle Unites’. That would be the utterly fascist UAF one supposes – so why not say so?
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Hopefully those skilled in such things can capture and share this quote because, as you say, that is a rather spectacular statement from a supposedly objective interviewer.
Look forward to him interviewing David Cameron on the entirely justifiable move by Turkey to turn back those of unsuitable faith fleeing Isis, as opposed to entirely legitimate economic migrants en route here to bolster the landlord industry in Kensington.
Or maybe there will be no time in the schedule as the BBC devotes its energies to coordinating the efforts of a group to which the PM is a founding signatory.
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I’ll ‘Listen Again’ when it’s available to check the exact wording and then will be making a complaint to the BBC (for all the good that will do). The fact that Naughtie thinks this is ‘quite a contradiction’ and chooses to state that opinion not only shows naked political bias but his arrogance in assuming that his audience will agree.
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Please do.
It will do some good as that ‘log’ of theirs must be straining at the seams, and someone in there may just recognize when they moved to being a flat out propaganda organ.
Also, when they reply, as they must, a public airing of whatever vacuous excuse really shows them up more than being tucked away in one of their secret files.
And they don’t like it one bit, despite being so transparent ‘n all.
One of the few good outcomes to the Future of the BBC inquiry report is The Trust knows now that no one trusts them. This may focus a few minds for when the wall falls and the files they obsessively keep get researched.
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I heard this too – I think the precise words use were “not far right or fascist but….”, etc. Do make a complaint, the bias was blatant.
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Norty Naughtie. He should know better. Perhaps he does, but has an axe to grind.
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Wake up, get out of bed, switch on R4. it’s 08.35 and someone’s telling me “islam is the same as Christianity and other religions”.
Switch off radio, put kettle on.
The weekend begins.
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Islam IS the same as Christianity – well Christianity about 750 years ago.
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it isn’t at all, you fall into the same trap as I do if I ever try to expound on ballet or flower arranging, subjects I know nothing, and care nothing about. Christianity was reformed by going back to the basics and cutting out all of the ‘man added’ stuff that gave power and control to the priests. Christianity was reformed by going back to the core message of the gospels, love one another, turn the other cheek etc. The trouble with islam is that they have never wandered far from their basic beliefs of hating the Jews/Christians/kuffar and smiting heads from necks.
Back to basics is exactly what ‘radical’ or ‘militant’ islam is, and will always be.
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They never “wandered far from the basics” because to try and do so or even to begin to talk about doing so, would lead to accusations of heresy; and then that really wouldn’t work out so well them.
That there is “radical” or “militant” Islam is erroneous.
“There is no such thing as Islamism, it is simply the expression in practice of what the Koran requires them to do. There is no such thing as moderate Islam, there are moderate Muslims – but no moderate Islam.”
Dr Carl Goldberg
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Did someone just mention Polar Bears? Did someone mention the BBC? Did someone mention the start of the next “Cooling Period” of 20 years? Lets us start with the Polar Bears:
http://polarbearscience.com/2014/11/07/bbc-provides-a-forum-for-desperate-biologists-will-polar-bears-become-extinct/
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Yes Ursus Maritmus – apparently it has survived warming and cooling before but this time it is different that 0.04 % trace gas has changed everything – the thing is they all know they are lying and we know they are lying why do they bother
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Be honest – it’s the weather forecast
Nerdy-looking BBC tv weather man Peter Gibbs kicks off his forecast this morning with an agenda-driven junk statistic fresh from the Met Office would-be record breakers:
“It’s been the sunniest winter for 86 years…. but to be honest, I’m struggling to find some sunshine for you around Britain this weekend…”
Oh dear, every time the BBC gears up for a bit global climate whatsname alarmism the bloody weather goes and lets them down.
Still, keep soldiering on Peter.
https://johnosullivan.wordpress.com/2013/01/24/blundering-british-met-office-now-forecasts-nations-coldest-thaw/
‘Poor BBC television Weatherman, Peter Gibbs looked baffled and bemused Thursday as he broadcast to the nation rather sheepishly “…plenty more snow still to come…” Gibbs conceded the Arctic conditions were “…not going to give up without a fight.” Nonetheless, Gibbs was still obstinately clinging to the Met Office’s forlorn hope that “…it will turn a lot milder over the weekend.” Fingers and legs being crossed backstage.’
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My solar panels have produced 3% more electricity during the last two quarters compared to the corresponding quarters the year before.
I don’t expect the output of the sun has changed significantly so that would suggest lower levels of pollution or fewer clouds than last year.
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Of relevance to this thread and the one below on the BBC highlighting the silly view that MI5 radicalised the psychotic ‘Jihadi Mohammed’ – this morning, Today played an extended version of an interview with Sir John Sawers, ex head of MI6. In its wisdom the BBC allowed its leftie tame Muslim Mishal Hussein to conduct the interview. Her questions-cum-statements were often designed to subtly undermine what the security services are doing to protect us – Muslims who go to Syria are ‘victims’ etc etc
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The BBC and Mishal Hussein are not the people to answer them, but there are clearly a number of questions in regards to this matter. The security services do not radicalise Muslims, but they certainly use agent provacateurs and effectively ‘licence’ certain hate preachers in return for information. They also have a vested interest in permitting or perhaps ‘not preventing’ the occasional act of terrorism; after all – no terrorist threat, no need for large state security apparatus with its many jobs and a large budget. There is also the concept of ‘acceptable levels of terrorism’ which was followed in Northern Ireland; as long as there was only the occasional outrage on the mainland there wasn’t too much concern and it did, after all, provide a way of keeping the army busy when there wasn’t much else going on in the world.
Still, the security services are being undermined. You may have seen their recent recruitment advert featuring a girl in a wheelchair with the caption: ‘Mixed race, female, dyslexic – just what we are looking for’ (no, it’s not an early April 1st spoof). Now there is absolutely no reason why such a person or anyone else cannot and should not work effectively for MI5 and MI6, athough perhaps they should have added the requirement to be fluent in Arabic as well. But it is – how shall we say? – noteworthy that they are emphasising such characteristics. If the obsession to meet diversity and equality quotas is more important than the ability to do the job then we have problems. Perhaps we should outsource MI6… to the Mossad.
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Before a troll starts screaming ‘Source?’:
British Home Secretary Reginald Maudling declared that he would settle for an “acceptable level of violence” at the start of 1971, …
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/topics/troubles_violence
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very interesting.
realpolitik is being revealed like never before and it sure aint pretty.
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I am sure the security services are doing an excellent job infiltrating the EDL, the so called far right, and now collecting information to destroy PEGIDA, and are cooperating fully with the BBC, Tell Mama, the Muslim Council, and the Government’s Task Force on combating extremism.
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How did this article Azerbaijan Charlie get on the. BBC website, under magazine.
Has the Beeb suddenly grown a pair?
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Interesting historical perspective and amazing to see such criticism of Islam on the BBC:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31640643
Still, no depictions of Mohammed.
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The Fascists at the BBC are in full recovery mode for Natlie Bennets Brain fade, telling us that everyone gets it, and that it’s nothing unusual. Asking almost every guest on every program to give an example of when they lost the thread in public.
Then there’s the perennial Fascist reality twisting – one of the Fascists favourites has dropped the ball, quick find a reason to blame it all on a white male! So the fact that she fucked up is all the fault of white men, because of ‘sexism’ ! Which the BBC pick up and run with like it’s the word of God !
As others have said they’re not even trying to hide the bias now.
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In order for one’s brain to experience fading, it is a prerequisite that one should possess a brain in the first place.
In the case of Ms. Bennett, this is debatable.
What is NOT debatable, however, is the fact that not only is she not in possession of a brain, nor (on at least three occasions) has she been in possession of all the facts relating to the Green policies, if indeed there were any facts to be in possession of.
She is an Antipodean half-wit, and deserves to have fun poked at her, at every opportunity. She does not, it seems, intend to relinquish her position as leader of the compost party, so perhaps we may have more interesting “interviews” to witness in the near future, before the daft green pixie Lucas, in abject exasperation, grabs the reins again. Or maybe we might witness another spectacle of the mad Jenny Jones stealing the limelight. Now, that WAS funny.
Interesting, on Channel 4 news last night, the number of “students” who said they were going to vote Green. Says it all, I think, for the youth of today, and the “educational” establishments of the Former UK.
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Natalie didn’t have a ‘brain-fade’ or ‘lose the thread.
She just didn’t know.
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But she`s a shoo-in for any “Razzle” Award for bad political acting.
Her impression of somebody with a cough was grand!
An absolute dodo of a performance.
Maybe it`s been due to being around too many spliffing types that populate her useless party and its world. Passive smoking IS a problem then?
Still eh?…one big sicknote for MS victims ensures that THEIR dope will always be “medically valid”.
Natalie seems to be their biggest dope anyway!…and, as ever she fails the tests day on day.
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My morning so far
1- Turn on tv (tuned to BBC1 news)
2- Item on about women’s football
3- Interview with two players – one black the other Asian
4- Camera cuts to sidelines and zooms in on Asian woman wearing a headscarf.
5- Turn tv off and take dog for a walk.
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and all for just 3 squid a week!
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Always good to hear somebody elses “switch-off moment”.
Mine was yesterday on Radio 4 News at 7.05am.
Our newsreader referred to Jihadi John “PRESIDING OVER” the deaths of those hostages that he beheaded with a blunt knife.
He “allegedly killed” same hostages; and the Merrilegs eejit went on to imply that the poor relative of one of his victims was somewhat harsh in hoping that the twat “got a bullet between his eyes”.
Presumably, she`s still a bit bitter about it…whereas all those other victims seemed to simply hope that he`s see justice done-ie less than Glitters sixteen years I`m sure.
Not been back to the BBC since…bastards…”Presiding over the rubberducking of this country”
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A review of wimmin’s rugby there – My old sunday league team used to get more spectators than there were on show. How come’s we never got on the telly.
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Unsure which seat this refers to, tweet from Suzanne Evans
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Unsure which seat this refers to…
At a guess; Sarah Champion in Rotherham. That’s an on-going project for the Beeb.
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I see the bbc are running the meme that jihad john and the three death bitches from east London are victims of grooming [cf Rotherham etc, etc, etc] at first instance, rather than murderers and their co-conspirators. never mind the fact that rotherham’s victims never beheaded anyone nor did they go well out of their way to help others who behead.
funny how they never gave anders brevic whatsisname a similar pass.
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The BBC seems to be using the old trick of “denial of the unsubstantiated accusation” rather a lot recently.
Today R4 simply states “Pegida UK denies being a racist party”
This means that the BBC has absolutely no evidence that it could play on air that Pegida UK espouses “racism” ( why is opposition to an ideology or religion racism?). All that happened was that a BBC “journalist” asked a Pegida supporter “Is Pegida racist” and the answer was “No”. Naturally, a denial on air creates the impression that Pegida “has something to hide”. Denials of what is not the case can, of course, be repeated ad infinitum to enhance the “no smoke without fire” effect. I’m sure it would be equally newsworthy if Today led with “Eddie Mair, like Jimmy Saville a BBC stalwart, denies raping an 8-year old ” It’s very much the same with “Security forces facing questions about radicalisation of Enwazi”. “facing” suggests that real questions are in fact being adressed. The reality is that the BBC is simply regurgitating the unfounded assertions of CAGE. No one else apart from a Jihadist mouthpiece and the BBC would ever think the question was worth asking. “Was alien abduction the reason for Enwazi’s radicalisation?” Distortions worthy of the gutter press.
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‘The BBC seems to be using the old trick of “denial of the unsubstantiated accusation” rather a lot recently.’
Indeed. ‘Critics are saying’. And it seems the currently ‘resting’ Flokker squadron on R&R ’til a slew of other poorly labelled Claymores are cleared are entirely happy when their sappers lay such unfounded efforts around and about.
Frankly, in the spirit of ‘two wrongs’, those on the receiving end of the BBC’s usual uni-directional holding to account could be schooled to greet such attempts with a few of their own?
“Is Pegida racist?”
“Where would such a claim originate please? It’s like asking you as a BBC staff member if the BBC is headed by an internal self-regulation entity that is a busted flush and needs to go. Oh… sorry… no it isn’t; that is factually on record, from an ex-BBC staffer, Labour MP and Future of the BBC Committee member”
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The claim originates from Angela Merkel who did a U turn on Islam, although no one in the media thinks that worth investigating.
Strange too that when she said that Islam was incompatible with Western civilisation they didn’t bother to ask anyone that question.
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Apparently not everyone in Germany agrees with Ma Merkel. ARD had a strange news item today quoting a Bremen police spokesman’s complaint that “Salafists returning from Syria to Bremen are a ticking time bomb”. There was no gurning and facial contortions to indicate lack of official approval. I say strange because ARD is a staunch cheer leader for the Willkommenskultur.
A policeman’s lot is not a happy one even in Bremen
When a Muslim’s not engaged in mutilation
Or maturing his jihadistic little plans
His capacity for innocent elation
Is just as great as any honest man’s
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