395 Responses to START THE WEEK OPEN THREAD

  1. nogginator says:

    Guantanamo Human Rights Group CAGE … ‘Jihad Is An Important Concept’
    https://t.co/8smijbV7i1

    CAGE … BBC … remember them?
    That press conference, that blew up in the Al BBC face?
    Wonderful headers in their report
    What is Cage?
    ‘Hypocrisy ferments extremism’
    Moazzam Begg is the outreach director (lovely Photo)
    The Cage Cases, etc etc.

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  2. taffman says:

    Funny, old Al Beeb will mention this petition against today’s ‘Lecture’……………..
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-34613148

    But not a peep about this one?
    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/107516
    Bias anyone?

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  3. Angrymanupnorth says:

    BBC 2, PMQ’s. 1207Hrs.

    Cameron proves why he is unsuited to the office he holds. Evidently our job is to prove why Islamist terrorist attacks has nothing to do with Islam, and that it is the leading British Muslim scholars who he will be consulting in order to achieve this. He is not on the side of honesty, decency, our country or of our civilisation.

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    • G.W.F. says:

      Nothing to do with Islam

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      • manchesterlad says:

        Mmmm. Now if only we could see a connection between these perpetrators ….

        Tricky one.

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    • Thoughtful says:

      I don’t know why you’re so surprised about this? It’s evident to those with eyes to see that Cameron is deep in the pockets of the oil rich Sunni Muslim states and he is merely doing their bidding.
      You are observing the symptoms, while failing to look for the causes.

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      • Angrymanupnorth says:

        Did I suggest I was surprised? I was summarising what the PM’s position appears to be having listened to him speak in PMQ’s. I asserted that he is unsuited to the office that he holds.

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  4. Grant says:

    The ludicrous BBC website says ” What would you do in an attack ? “. You couldn’t make it up !

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    • Thoughtful says:

      People need to wake up much more to the dangers around them. Whenever I enter any enclosed space, the first thing I do now is to check the escape routes, and obstacles – just in case, and it doesn’t have to be terrorism which gets you, it’s much more likely to be a fire or other disaster.
      Then there’s self awareness. Take a look at how many people are wandering around in a dream world, especially in town. Women with the most insanely inappropriate handbags, gaping open to show every expensive tech gadget they have, and ripe for dipping into.
      A friend at the station saw one of these women searching for her phone in a bag like this, it had obviously been stolen, but she just couldn’t comprehend someone might do that.

      So what would you do if you’d been in Paris that night? those who did escape, probably did so because they were quickly either able to escape or hide effectively. Plan ahead, and let one of the thickos cop for it, they’ll probably be a leftie anyway !

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  5. Jerry Owen says:

    I do not watch BBC ‘news’ anymore.. however I now understand the phrase ‘curiosity killed the cat’ I couldn’t help last night having watched Sky Fox and RT news to just pop over to Albeeb to see what their take was on the tragic Paris attacks.
    Imagine my surprise at seeing a thirty year odd old photo of a black ‘French’ football player and just catching Albeeb telling us that France was one of the first and most successful multicultural European countries ( Sick ).
    I switched back to my previous station in a nanno!
    The reality of course is that European football is worse on the worldwide stage since enforced multiculturalism in that homogenous team bonding no longer exists. Look at the recent England football team photo where the blacks are at a different table to the whites.
    Is it just chance that Germany one of the last of the relatively homogenous European teams is pretty much the best performing team year in year out, with a style that has never really changed?

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  6. Roland Deschain says:

    How did this one sneak through?

    France’s banlieue Saint Denis unmoved by Paris attacks

    “I think there will be a third world war. But France has been asking for it because of its intervention in Syria,” she says.

    Now, Mr Humphrys, what was that you said about all British Muslims opposing terrorism? Are they so different to the French ones?

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  7. neilw says:

    Jeremy Vile is wheeling out the apologists as usual. all claiming not in my name. Well, when they get out onto the streets en-masse to collectively demonstrate then I might start to change my mind. Until then, my view is that the deafening wall of silence from the muslims speaks volumes. Finding a few individual muslims to condemn the violence is easy, for every one of those, finding 10 more who are rejoicing would be even easier – if you look for them…

    It’s funny how the muslims are eager to get on the streets when they feel aggrieved, but not now. All it takes is for the imams to call a demonstration and the sheep will follow, so what’s stopping them? I think we know the answer.

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    • Sluff says:

      RE sheep.
      Where I live, there is a widespread belief that among our dear Muslim communities, postal votes are sought, then the Imam and other ‘elders’ instruct people how to vote and then make sure they do so ‘correctly’, either by supervising the voting or by requiring blank voting papers to be handed in for ‘block voting’. The authorities of course turn a blind eye since they don’t want to be labelled as racist, and of course the local Labour council has a vested interest anyway since surprise surprise they tend to get the vote.

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    • Geoff says:

      I’d like to believe them, I really would, but always Taqiyya nags away at the back of my mind. The most symbolic thing to do, if they really were aggrieved would be apostasy, that would mean something. Same goes for the foul mouthed ranter on the previous page.

      I would if I were a member of a murderous cult, that’s assuming of course that I hadn’t be conditioned or brainwashed.

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    • ID says:

      I haven’t heard of any scholars or clerics in the great sests of Islamic law and scholarship issuing any fatwahs against the “perverters” of Islam. I thought the Prophet was all for non-violence.

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  8. Sluff says:

    On BBC news website right now
    From Gavin Hewitt “Firstly – and not unexpectedly – the far right has used the crisis to challenge Europe’s passport-free zone as guaranteed by the Schengen agreement. Marine Le Pen, the leader of the National Front in France, called passport-free travel “madness” and insisted: “We have to reinstate our national borders.” (BTW on any statistical normal distribution curve, the ‘Far ‘ anything would cover the last 1 – 2 %. The FN are polling at what? 20%+?)

    Meanwhile on another page
    “Ken Livingstone has refused to apologise for comments about a shadow defence minister despite Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn urging him to do so.
    Mr Livingstone told the Mirror Kevan Jones – who has suffered with depression – needed “psychiatric help”.
    Mr Jones called the comments “gravely offensive”, and Mr Livingstone faced a backlash from a number of Labour MPs.
    Shadow defence secretary Maria Eagle is reportedly “furious” about his appointment to Labour’s defence team.
    Mr Livingstone, the ex-London mayor, has been put in joint charge with Ms Eagle of the party’s defence review”

    So it’s ‘Far Right’ for Le Pen. But not ‘extreme left’ for Corbyn or Livingstone.

    Sometimes the Al-Beeb bias is subliminal, but on this occasion it’s right there, in your face, in black and white, to coin a phrase

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  9. G.W.F. says:

    A BBC characteristic is to explain acts of terror in a way which provides some kind of justification. Why the Paris attacks, asks the BBC.
    Answer – alienation, poverty and the evil US warmongers whom France followed.

    ‘ For many years some deprived housing estates in the suburbs of Paris and other cities have been fertile ground for Islamist extremists. Jihad has appeared seductive for some alienated young Muslims in areas of high unemployment and urban neglect.
    More than 500 French Muslims have gone to fight with jihadists in Syria and Iraq, experts say – more than from any other Western country.
    French warplanes have repeatedly attacked IS fighters in Syria and Iraq, as part of the US-led campaign against the group.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34820847

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    • popeye says:

      And in other news Jeremy Corbyn has accused French Police of deliberately causing the detonation of a suicide vest worn by an innocent Muslim lady who had forgotten to take it off from the previous night’s fancy dress party at the mosque. “Simply in the wrong place at the wrong time”, reported the BBC

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  10. nogginator says:

    After listening to a trope of lies from, Camoron, or T May, or the BBC, or LBC

    This is GREAT, give this a listen, as usual encapsulates the situation perfectly
    New ISIS
    http://www.steynonline.com/7301/the-isis-octopus

    BBC waffling about a Telegraph advert, a “possible” march by Muslims hinted at by the MCB
    … they should draw a bloody cartoon! … you ll see a march then!
    ps
    Hope is more successful than the Paris Islamic March
    France: Only 30 Muslims show up for rally against Paris jihad attacks, 30 out of over 5million?
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3322064/We-need-wage-jihad-against-jihad-French-Muslims-join-mourners-condemn-Paris-attacks-late.html

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  11. AsISeeIt says:

    I won’t be calling out Médecins Sans Frontières to help replace the lid of the re-cycle box just yet – I can deal with our end of the post-storm Barney clean up operation

    Mind you, taking the precaution of watching the BBC weather with the sound turned down – from the safety of a panic room – I note that Hurricane “Low” is now bearing down on the British Isles.

    Looks as though the Met Office are naming them after David Bowie albums…

    Typhoon Hunky Dory is probably mid-Atlantic right now and doubtless nothing to worry about (clue in the name) – but to coincide with the Paris Climate jamboree it has to be The Man Who Sold The World

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  12. Pollystuscanyvilla says:

    Rumours circulating that the Germany v Holland game was called off because anticipated abuse at Merkel for being a traitor. As yet nothing “concrete” has been found to indicate a bomb.

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  13. Sluff says:

    Lead news on BBC website today
    “Paris attacks: Two die in hunt for ‘mastermind’ Abaaoud”

    …..and less than half way down the article we have…..
    Multicultural Saint-Denis: by the BBC’s Cagil Kasapoglu

    Yeah. That’s what we were all worried about.
    Got to keep the indoctrination going………

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  14. Grant says:

    The BBC love using the word ” mastermind” about terrorists. Seems to me that it is pretty easy to walk into a public place with an automatic weapon and kill lots of people. It does not need a “mastermind”. But , if you are a Beeboid in thrall……….

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  15. Thoughtful says:

    OMG all the conspiracy nutters were right all along !

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  16. Gunner says:

    News flash : Eagle shot down by man with Trident missile.

    Apparently the police are looking for an elderly gentleman who claims to be leader of the Liebour Party. A spokesman said “he needs psychiatric help”.

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