Maajid Nawaz You couldn’t make this shit up. Friday 13th nightmare, as all-male Islamist Rogues’ Gallery gathers in Bedford, UK.
Maajid Nawaz Every single one of these speakers is a Caliphate-advocating Islamist, they believe in every core principle ISIS believes in, and they reject ISIS merely because they made their move for a Caliphate ‘too soon & too fast’.
If you have the time and energy…..
You could of course just read the Mail’s (The BBC doesn’t have one) write up of the ‘event’…
‘As jihadists rampaged through Paris on Friday night, radical panellists at a Muslim debate in Britain reportedly told of the duty to establish an Islamic state.
Speakers at the Quiz A Muslim event in Bedford included Taji Mustafah, of radical Islamic organisation Hizb-ut Tahrir, and Moazzem Begg, a former Guantanamo Bay inmate and founder of campaign group Cage, whose director called Jihadi John a ‘beautiful young man’.
The panellists said that there is an ‘Islamic’ duty to ‘struggle’ for an ‘Islamic state’, as 132 were executed in shootings and suicide bombings.’
Oh no hang on the BBC does tackle this nest of Islamists…or not…listen to the condescending sneer from the BBC presenter (Three Counties)as he reads out the Mail’s headline…and then listen to his description of the Islamist ‘5Pillars’….
Panorama’s John Ware, the BBC’s ‘outlier’ when it comes to revealing the truth about Islam in the UK, knows the truth about 5Pillars and its deputy editor…
‘…..a mouthy young Islamist called Dilly Hussain to describe Khan as “the government-friendly desperado”. He is deputy editor of a new website called 5Pillars which refers favourably to the extremist organisation Hizb-ut-Tharir as “working for the re-establishment of the Caliphate”.
While Hussain sermonises about “Islam’s true teachings of brotherhood” he also does a particularly venomous line in abuse against the “sisterhood”, describing Khan as an “airhead” who belongs to an “ultra-minority of secular liberal ‘Muslims’ who service nothing and no one but Islamophobes.” He has likewise called another female Muslim critic a “stupid liberal cow”, a “fat cow” and a “p***head” who writes “drunken liberal garbage” and should “do one”.
The personal vituperation and constant smearing by Muslims of co-religionists who dare to challenge this kind of non-violent extremist narrative helps explain why more have not put their heads above the parapet.’
The Panorama video (Via 5Pillars editing) is here but can’t be viewed in the UK….except on a proxy server.
Why oh why is it so impossible for the BBC’s everyday presenters to get their act together and know what they are talking about when it comes to Islam and its propagandists?
According to Breitbart’s report ( the first news site to report the meeting and a few days before the Daily Mail even considered reporting it) the BBC’s favourite ex-Guantanomo inmate, Moazem Begg , told the meeting he was opposed to ISIS strategy because they killed Muslims as well. Nice to know where his priorities lay!
I am getting very pissed off with the BBC since last week’s Paris attacks. They try to ridicule the many voices of reason rather than ridicule the twisted ideology of “ISIS”. The BBC are going out of their way to get Muslims on air to defend their religion and reinforce the idea that it has nothing to do with “moderate” Muslims.
It has EVERYTHING to do with “moderate” Muslims!!!
All I heard after the Charlie Hedbo massacre – on the BBC! – was “moderate” Muslims denouncing the attacks but campaigning for laws against blasphemy and/or speaking ill of the Prophet Mohammed! At least two of the interviewees justified such measures for the simple reason that they respect Mohammed above members of their own family. They actually defend the respect of Mohammed before their own mothers and fathers, brothers or sisters!
No wonder there are so many “honour killings”.
And these people are supposed to be moderate.
If a Christian person said they would defend the name of Jesus before defending their own family members, I would label that person either crazy or an extremist (fundamentalist?). So why are we pussyfooting around the issue? Why are we flexing the boundaries of religious extremism for the want of accommodating Islamic differences in our society?
The attacks on Paris last week were a victory for the terrorists, but what opened the door to those attacks was the attack on Charlie Hebdo, which was an even greater victory! The Charlie Hebdo incident shamefully silenced the press. The Charlie Hebdo massacre removed freedom of speech.
All of our “leaders” are cowards. Even Putin looks like a pussycat in this scenario. And that makes me smile, at least.
There is one thing standing in the way of annihilation of crazy Islamists here in Europe (and the rest of the world) and that is political correctness and the refusal to admit something has gone very wrong here.
“Why are we flexing the boundaries of religious extremism for the want of accommodating Islamic differences in our society?”
The usual reason. Muslims generally have brown faces so they must not be criticised. If people were committing acts of terrorism after shouting “Odin is Great” or some such, it would have been stamped out years ago.
Perhaps it even goes back to Salman Rushdie and the Satanic Verses and the weak willed response to the fatwah all those years ago.
Seems like the next few months’ worth of QT guests is sorted.
The BBC has some serious questions to answer about who (else, there is a pack of cards to match that poster) they immediately head to in wake of Islamist provocation to pour petrol on burning waters.
That is, if a system did not exist whereby the BBC, unique amongst all state-funded entities, can refuse to answer.
It is not the Jihadis that are the main threat to Western civilisation. They might kill a few hundred now and then, and tragic though that is, they do not pose a significant threat to Western civilisation.
What does is the huge growth in Muslim demographics via immigration, birth rate and family unification. Once this demographic reaches critical mass, then it is Sharia quite naturally via parliament. Infidels are then toast, just as they are in ALL Muslim countries
The exiled Chaldean Catholic archbishop of Mosul, Iraq, is warning westerners about welcoming an increasing number of Muslims into their countries, naively believing that they too believe in democratic principles.
“Our sufferings today are the prelude of those you, Europeans and Western Christians, will also suffer in the near future,” said Archbishop Amel Shimoun Nona in an interview by Corriere della Sera. “I lost my diocese. The physical setting of my apostolate has been occupied by Islamic radicals who want us converted or dead. But my community is still alive.”
The archbishop’s interview was reported by the blog Rorate Caeli.
The archbishop warned: Please, try to understand us. Your liberal and democratic principles are worth nothing here. You must consider again our reality in the Middle East, because you are welcoming in your countries an ever growing number of Muslims. Also you are in danger. You must take strong and courageous decisions, even at the cost of contradicting your principles. You think all men are equal, but that is not true: Islam does not say that all men are equal. Your values are not their values. If you do not understand this soon enough, you will become the victims of the enemy you have welcomed in your home.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/08/18/Exiled-Archbishop-of-Mosul-I-Have-Lost-My-Diocese-To-Islam-You-in-the-West-Will-Also-Become-Victims-of-Muslims
It may reach a point where sterilization becomes an acceptable weapon of defence, once it separated from Nazi style eugenics. Or maybe inbreeding or internal war will limit population growth
Exactly NCBBC. It is the gradual islamification of Europe that should concern everyone who values freedom, liberty and democracy. For many years we have accepted the new normal of living with Islam, and as if to pacify the protagonists we have accepted death threats to individuals (Salman Rushdie), street protesters advocating death for cartoonists and UK armed forces alike unhindered by police or lawmakers, and an unsaid but complied with censorship on anything that may cause offence to Moslems, comedic, dramatic or factual, for fear of violent reprisal. As the default dietary requirements for public and private sector more often than not assume we are already a muslim country, I suppose we should have a stiff drink while we still can, and despair of where this is all heading.
I read that following the success of Hizb-ut Tahrir’s event in Bedford (fronted by 5Pillocks), they intend to repeat the radicalisation exercise by holding another QT style event in Birmingham and then the Black Country as soon as possible.
No doubt BBC Midlands will be rolling out the red carpet for them (and will provide the audience if necessary – not that it’ll be needed, Hizb-ut Tahrir have enough ‘radicals’ as the BBC calls them, to fill their halls as it is)
While our ‘so called’ patriotic Tory government imposes austerity measures on its own people resulting in food banks, ex soldiers sleeping rough, a shortage of houses, cuts in…. defence, NHS, schools, etc etc, it imports more ‘so called refugees’ – and get this! It sets up a £1bn fund to fight malaria.
It would be far better to spend the money on contraceptives for the third world, so that it can start to feed itself.
Over to you Al Beeb Essexman/troll………………………………
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34892921
Whilst I agree with your final comment your first paragraph is wrong in so many ways.
Austerity, what austerity this government borrows like a drunk in a brewery. As for food banks they existed under Labour, but nobody whined about them then, same for ex soldiers.
Your next point is plain wrong, maybe if Blair and his cronies hadn’t opened the gates to mass uncontrolled Muslim immigration and once here they didn’t breed like rats, the NHS, schools and housing for ex soldiers amongst others would not be under so much pressure. Whilst Cameron must do more the fault lies squarely with the last Labour government.
As for defence spending, as a percentage of gdp amongst first world countries we are in the top five so yes we need to watch what we spend as Labour and the BBC’s magic money tree is a figment of some deluded socialists imagination.
I can’t offer a solution to damage politicians have wreaked on my country, what I can say is that it’s time to call a spade a bloody spade. If there is a problem in the world today you can guarantee a Muslim is involved and yes ISIS has everything to do with Muslims, because Muslims they are, and no amount of mealy mouthed bullshit can hide that. (This isn’t aimed at you Taff)
Just listened to the full radio interview featuring Douglas Murray versus the (non scholar) fundamentalist idiot. Actually the presenter gives the Muslim guy a hard time. This is then followed by a very reasonable and clear destruction of all his arguments. He then goes on to state the reality of Islam as it is (not the BBC version!!). Sounds like a good guy. My favourite comment was when he described the 5Pillar lot as nutters forming a kind of Islamic fundamentalist version of celebrity strictly come dancing…great stuff!
Ask them the following:
‘Do You Condemn 9/11?’
None will say ‘yes’.
Job done.
Or ask this of any Muslim
” Do you support Sharia?”
All Muslims will say ‘Yes’. The few who don’t, are not Muslims.
Those that do say ‘Yes’, should be deported forthwith, for in the UK.
It’s the quiet ones who will ultimately prove more dangerous, in all probability. At least you hear the mad mullahs and the gunmen coming. But see these quiet, “normal” and “moderate” folks in the video below. There is absolutely no wriggle room for apologists after watching it. The interpretation is crystal clear.
Re comments on Sharia law, you might be interested in our summary here:
http://wisermonkeys.uk/islam.html#sharia
Muslim doctrine – Mine is mine. Yours is for you to share with Muslims or me, till it is mine.
Presumably the BBC could not show these panels as they do not contain the requisite number of women to meet guidelines!
Oh silly me, muslims are excused such niceties!
We will never be at peace as long as there are Muslims in the UK. Sharia is the goal of every Muslim who calls himself a Muslim. Their numbers are increasing rapidly.
1. High birth rate
2. Continued immigration
3. Family unification
4. Spouses fetched on a regular basis from abroad.
If Muslims are asked if they support Sharia, they answer evasively that Sharia is only for Muslim nations. But the answer is clear. Once they are a majority in any part of the West, Sharia is inevitable.
Sooner or later, they will be numerous enough to install Sharia via parliament. This will be the end Western civilisation.