MID WEEK OPEN THREAD

Here you go, a new Open Thread. BBC seem to abandoned any pretence in the US election and have gone full on anti-Trump mode. It reminds me of the way they treated Reagan and Thatcher -the bile is visceral.

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  1. Thoughtful says:

    Sometimes when a political party doesn’t have any effective opposition it begins to do things which are wholly unacceptable to the people being governed.
    Such was the case with the BLiar government, and now the Tories too, as Osborne takes advantage of the Corbyn shambles which is Labour, although at the rate Osborne’s going we might see Corbyn elected!

    Taking benefit away from the disabled is simply cruel and unacceptable. Any one who thinks otherwise is simply an evil monster who has zero compassion, and most probably a pensioner who would never be affected by these cuts anyway.

    We all pay into a fund called National Insurance, and we pay a lot of money into it. This fund gives certain benefit should we lose our employment, or become unable to work. To find that the benefits are being reduced, yet the premium is stating the same is a rip off, pure & simple. To find that the benefits are being reduced so the Tories can fund tax cuts for the very well off is sickening, and shows a certain callousness, and a sickness of the mind.

    Anyone reading this runs the risk of disability – you are only a car crash away, a cancer diagnosis, or a terrorist outrage. Would you as an employer take on someone with terminal cancer? The Tories know their rich mates won’t, but lie that they will.

    This is headlining on the BBC now, and fortunately there are still some Tories with an ounce of compassion willing to stand up to Satan oops Osborne, and hopefully force him to review his evil. Even the Tory disability minister Nicky Morgan couldn’t believe nor accept what Osborne was attempting to do, nor explain it, preferring to lie that it was a ‘suggestion’.

    I feel so strongly about this that if the Tories do not change course, I who have never ever voted Labour in my life, will do so at the next election, regardless of the havoc they will wreak, because those who are defenceless need our support and not Tory attacks.

    Remember that the love of money is the root of all evil, and that is certainly being proved in the Tory cabinet !

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    • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

      Vote neither Liebour nor Tory….vote UKIP.

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    • Jeff says:

      Well said, Thoughtful. I’ve been too busy working to take a close look at the budget but everything I’ve heard seems to prove you correct. It’s despicable and mean spirited to use the budget as an assault on those most vulnerable in our society. Osborne is behaving like a latter Sheriff of Nottingham, unfortunately for us Corbyn and co aren’t Robin Hood and his band of merry men. More’s the pity.
      Both Osborne and Cameron are feeble weak men and I’m sure that at the first sign of a substantial back bench revolt they’ll both buckle.
      There is one good thing to come out of this most unpleasant shambles; this hasn’t done nasty Osborne’s leadership prospects any good at all.

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  2. Tabs says:

    The BBC avoiding using the word ‘Muslim’ when a crime has been committed.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-33809138

    They mention she was an “devout Islamic student” and the attacked happened by an Islamic shrine but no mention of her murderers religion.

    BBC also score points for putting this article into the ‘Asia’ category.

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  3. thirdoption says:

    Nicky Morgan is Secretary of State for Education and Minister for Women and Equalities.

    You stated “Taking benefit away from the disabled is simply cruel and unacceptable. Any one who thinks otherwise is simply an evil monster who has zero compassion, and most probably a pensioner who would never be affected by these cuts anyway”.

    Try coming to my neck of the woods – plenty of people swinging the lead, receiving benefits for cars, housing, NHS and living allowance yet their only disability is that they don’t want to work. Sadly, the GP’s that they attend are too cowardly to say otherwise.
    My experience within the NHS has been that very few pensioners are on the make – they tend to come from a time and mentality where they have more self-respect and honour.

    As for you deciding to vote Labour from now on – good luck.

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    • Deborah says:

      Equally Thirdoption, there are those who are ‘over cared’. I know a poorly lady (has been since she was a teenager) now in her 60s, who has careers in three times a day. Trouble is she doesn’t really need them in quite that much. If I am visiting she just sends them away.

      I also know somebody whom the State has bought equipment under the Access to Work scheme, now coming to the end of their contract. When they get a new job, entitled to more equipment so do not need to take the old equipment back. Then there is the lady I know who has just got a new wheelchair. Old one will be dumped whereas the parts could be taken off it an reused. So much waste.

      As far as I understood it the changes proposed to PIPS related, for example, where someone had a piece of equipment that enabled them to put their own shoes on. If that works, why should the State provide a carer to put someone’s shoes on as well? I know from when I was laid up with a foot problem, it becomes all too easy to be institutionalised and allow someone else to do everything, even the things you can do for yourself. My problem was short term, but how easy it could be to do nothing and let the State pay. Don’t let the BBC indoctrinate you into thinking all changes are evil. The BBC will present all George’s changes in the worst possible light.

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    • Thoughtful says:

      Sorry thirdoption, but which medical qualifications do you hold?

      These people are the few who survived the admittedly onerous Atos tests, you remember those? The ones where they found the dead fit to work?

      Motobility is being drastically cut back by PIP, and there’s no argument from me that it needed to be. You don’t seem to have understood this latest round of cuts though so let me spell them out for you.
      Housing & NHS are available to everyone regardless of employment status, age, and it appears also nationality! This is not being cut back because it cannot be.

      Regardless of what you ‘think’ the VAST majority in receipt of disability benefit ARE not fit for work and if you are of the belief that 95% of the claimants who are genuine, need to be punished because there are 5% you deem to be “swinging the lead” ? If so I pity you.

      It is internationally accepted, and also by the UK government that JSA (Job Seekers Allowance) is insufficient to live on, this is the reason why Asylum seekers receive much more in benefits than UK nationals do, otherwise the UK would be in breach of its treaty obligations.

      The Tories have now decided that the £100 per week disabled people receive needs to be reduced to £70 pw like job seekers get, despite the fact they can’t survive on it, and they can’t get a job because they’re disabled! All so they can give tax breaks for the very wealthy & high earners.

      thirdoption Why don’t you propose ending their suffering more quickly than starving them to death, and set up death camps to rid us of them? But then again starving them in their own homes is the cheaper option, and avoids all that international outcry !

      Pensioners by the way aren’t being included in this cut back so won’t be affected, which is the whole point of mentioning them. Are you a pensioner thirdoption ?

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      • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

        There is room for both thirdoption and thoughtful here.
        There is both waste and hardship, wherever you look. What’s wrong it seems to me, is a decent system of sorting the wheat from the chaff.
        Atos, as you rightly say has produced some appalling results, and has been a national disgrace.
        I dont need to have medical qualification to see folk who are taking their walking stick for a walk, or as a fashion accessory, it becomes obvious they dont actually need it.
        I also look around me and see whole families who neverhave and never will work.
        What Osborne lacks here is the nous to realise his budget contained two items that enabled his detractors to pounce, that is to say, reducing benefits to the disabled whilst reducing corporation tax for businesses….thus being Robin Hood in reverse.

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        • Up2snuff says:

          D_C: “What Osborne lacks here is the nous to realise his budget contained two items that enabled his detractors to pounce, that is to say, reducing benefits to the disabled whilst reducing corporation tax for businesses….thus being Robin Hood in reverse.”

          Only two items? Almost every Budget Osborne hands his political opponents & critics a handful of sticks with which to beat him and his Party. He could have nailed Labour to the wall in 2010-2015.

          We are nearly a year into a Tory Government when they won a clear victory at the General Election while Labour agonised over a messy leadership battle that left their supporting Broadcaster spending months undermining the new leader. The only vision that our Chancellor can express is his desire to balance the books at some point in the future while pouring money, not unlike Gordon Brown, into holes in the ground in London and the north of England. He is well suited, as visionless, to be a leader in an EU State. Perhaps that is why he wants to remain in the EU.

          I think it’s a great shame. On presentation, he is superb. He is a much better communicator than David Cameron whether speaking off the cuff, being interrogated by a Beeboid or presenting a written speech. I suspect that he has much ‘more upstairs’ than Dave.

          His best pitch for Party Leader would have been wholesale tax reform along with prosperity for all instead of a few. Underpin that with balanced books and Labour shamed into silence, and he might have been a shoe in as the cousins are wont to say.

          As things stand, I think there’s considerable doubts about his future. Have just heard that Iain Duncan-Smith has gone. Things could get messy.

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          • taffman says:

            Up2snuff
            Osborne could save us a lot of money by getting the UK out of the EU and spending all the foreign aid on the desperate people living in his own nation.

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      • thirdoption says:

        “Sorry thirdoption, but which medical qualifications do you hold?”

        5 years at medical school and then 30 years in the medical profession

        “You don’t seem to have understood this latest round of cuts though so let me spell them out for you.”

        Yes, I understand them fully and don’t need you to help me with my spelling, but thanks for the offer

        “Regardless of what you ‘think’ the VAST majority in receipt of disability benefit ARE not fit for work and if you are of the belief that 95% of the claimants who are genuine, need to be punished because there are 5% you deem to be “swinging the lead” ? If so I pity you.”

        Sorry, but your figures are incorrect. Working on the frontline I assure you genuine claims are nowhere near 95%

        “Are you a pensioner thirdoption ?”

        No, not yet

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  4. seismicboy says:

    The story that keeps on giving.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/35834956
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/35837685
    The BBC will not let this one go. Eddie Jones sums it up best- “Maybe the WRU don’t know whether they are Arthur or Martha,” – a comment that won’t be lost on the transgender-loving BBC.
    But thanks to all the traveler community for tweeting in with their support for Lee earlier in the week (with their previously owned cellphones)

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  5. Sir_Arthur_Strebe-Grebling says:

    More bBBC propaganda: “I don’t have any money and I don’t have any life” – an Afghan refugee tells his story … but I refuse to claim asylum in Greece because I want a free house and money in Germany.

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  6. Will all end in tears says:

    Just listened to the Foxhunters commentary on Five Live.

    Utterly, utterly ridiculous.

    It was “Pendleton, Pendleton, Pendleton, Pendleton, Pendleton, Pendleton……………………..and Pendleton has finished 5th, amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”.

    The Foxhunters is one of the premium races for amateur jockeys in the racing calendar – and this so called professional broadcaster has turned it into a circus.

    I seriously don’t know who won and who was placed.

    All I know is that Pendleton finished 5th.

    Embarrasing

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    • Dave S says:

      The BBC is not really a sports reporter any more. It is in the business of sensationalism and if possible displaying it’s PC bias.
      A great disservice to a fine ride by Nina Carberry who won the race as she did last year. Not that she and the Irish who deservedly dominated Cheltenham could care less about Pendleton mania.
      No serious sports fan takes the BBC seriously do they?

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      • Fred Basset says:

        Still trying to get my head around the fact that Channel 4 can afford to show Formula 1 motor racing and the BBC can’t. No test match cricket on the BBC either, or Six nations rugby or The Open golf. Still I’m sure they will be able to continue with snooker and darts……

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        • Number 7 says:

          Coming on the Beeb soon:-

          The Tiddleywinks World Chamionships.

          The commentary is promised to be riveting.

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          • Rob in Cheshire says:

            I am afraid the BBC lost the rights to the Tiddleywinks World Championships to Russia Today. However, the exciting news is that the BBC will be broadcasting the Transgender Tiddleywinks World Championships. Well, the recorded highlights at any rate.

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          • Dazed and Confused says:

            Never underestimate the BBC in “bigging up” and broadcasting Womens football/rugby/cricket…

            Not many are interested, not many care, but because it’s cheap, and because the people don’t care for it, the BBC will attempt to change that troublesome public mindset, through manipulation, blanket coverage, and a false pretense of a “growing and supporting market”.

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        • Dazed and Confused says:

          I hear that B.T. are looking at Wimbledon, and if they chose to take it, then I’m sure they will…

          So, other than highlights, which sporting events will the BBC have?….Indeed what will the BBC broadcast, other than hours and hours of monotonous politically correct dirge, along side to their dire political news output..

          Is it really worth £145 quid a year?…Really?….Honestly?

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    • Cranmer says:

      Haha that reminds me of Alan Partridge’s ecstatic shouting when a golfer took a shot: ‘He’s hit it! HE’S HIT THE BALL!’

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  7. NISA says:

    The Radio Times being very multi-culti (not) about the treatment of transgender folk in Malaysia (C4 tonight)
    Malaysia is one of the most dangerous places in the world to be transgender. The country has two sets of laws: civil law, which applies to everyone, and Sharia law, which applies to Muslims – and bans changes to one’s gender.

    As Unreported World returns for a new series, Marcel Theroux follows members of the religious police as they attempt to persecute those they feel are breaking Sharia law, and transwomen who are harassed by the police, forced to carry ID cards stating their “male” gender, and driven to sex work by the country’s oppressive edicts.

    The strange ways of other cultures are for some reason more tolerated when practiced in the UK

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    • Thoughtful says:

      Odd, they must be Sunni – and therefore approved of and backed to the hilt by the West, and the Saudi Money, because Shia Iran appears much more tolerant not only allowing gender changes but performing them on gay people so they can have sex with the opposite gender !!

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  8. Richard Pinder says:

    The BBC’s Guardian Newspaper is close to bankruptcy, it lost £58.6 million pounds last year and is eliminating 310 posts, 18 percent of the staff. Apart from the Mirror, the Guardian had the biggest drop in sales for a British National Newspaper, with year on year sales falling 11.5% to 164,163 per-Month, and print advertising fell sharply in the year by an estimated 25%. With the Independent gone, the Guardian is now the lowest selling Nation newspaper. But after the popular “Queen backs Brexit” Sun Newspaper, the Daily Mail has the second largest circulation at 1,589,471 sales per-Month.

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    • scribblingscribe says:

      Richard

      A whole range of questions for the BBC emerge from your accurate post.

      The indie, which operated in a similar political seascape to the Guardian, has given up the ghost and fled online. One would have thought the Guardian would have hoovered up the anti 21st century, vegetarian, tree huggers from the Indie, but it clearly hasn’t.

      As you say the Guardian is still losing readers. Is the liberal left dying a death? Like coopers, mercers and cordwainers, has their world passed them by?

      If no one is sufficiently committed to the cause that they they will actually fork out for the newspapers of the same beliefs then what right has the BBC have to inflict us with their bilge?

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      • Fred Basset says:

        The Independent and the Guardian operate in the commercial world so, in their cases, market forces apply. The BBC, unfortunately, has a guaranteed income of £4Bn so will continue to inflict their ‘bilge’ on the rest of us for as long as they continue to receive it.

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        • Arthurp says:

          The new left (violent brainwashed youths) are now too young to read newspapers – they get their new education direct off the internet (Twitter and Facebook).

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      • Tothepoint says:

        I don’t believe the liberal left are dying out. I believe that the demography of its followers has changed.

        The cult of the left is filled with a group of sheltered, protected, and affluent gobshites that feel it’s their life’s calling to use their privilege to make the world a better place. These are the people that infest our media bodies and institutions and have a dangerous amount of control over what is being said and discussed. The other prominent group are snot faced 6 formers who have a simpleton view of the world and are utterly susceptible to the brainwashing techniques used by the first group. Both groups are pursuing the lefts causes for selfish reasons and are so far up their own arses they are living in a make belief world of denial and delusion. These traitors do not need to read papers as they already know all the answers.

        The irony in all of this is the lefts fanatical pursuit of multiculturalism and extremist left wing policies IS increasing the numbers on the right. Islam is about as right wing as you could possibly get and their increase in number and influence is already forcing the silent majority to the right of the political spectrum. Moving to the right is the only way our way of life will survive.

        The left had control of us. Complete control. They had us weak and placid, they were primed to create a perfect lefties wet dream of a world. The down fall of the left has been because of their psychotic levels of hatred towards everything and everyone in this country. This hatred had made them fuck buddies with our ROPer friends who hate us just as much. This warped alliance has gone from strength to strength as both have benefited from each others unwavering backing. Now the silent majority are not happy. They have seen Islam for what it is and have seen how desperate the traitors on the left are at protecting them… At the expense of our own blood.

        It never had to come to this. Too many people are going to suffer on both sides because of this hatred towards the West and our way of life. The crazy thing is is that Muslims are so far right that the first to feel the sweet enrichment of Muhammad and his unchangeable instruction on how to live are the left. Every single one of them will die because their views are against everything Islam stands for. The left will be begging the people they have tried to destroy to help them. How wonderful irony can be

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        • Steve Jones says:

          Yep, that about sums it up.

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        • Rob in Cheshire says:

          You can’t apply western political terms such as “right wing” to islam. It is a totalitarian system of thought control and societal represssion, posing as a religion. Even a term such as “mafia” does not begin to do it justice.

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      • DownBoy says:

        We probably don’t need many more coopers, mercers or cordwainers, ss, but we could certainly do with a few more Thatchers.

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    • Steve Jones says:

      Let’s just hope that someone is watching the BBC’s accounts to make sure that they aren’t palming a few quid off to the Grauniad to keep it going. It would be quite easy to shave a bit off £4,000,000,000 without anyone noticing.

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      • Cranmer says:

        Wasn’t the Guardian kept going through public sector advertising, for ‘Outreach Coordinator’ type jobs with local councils, 80k pa. plus benefits? Once the ‘evil Tory cuts’ started filtering through, there were fewer of these types of jobs and hence less money for the paper. As Tothepoint wrote, today’s youth don’t need to read newspapers because they get all their opinions ready made through social media.

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  9. Steve Jones says:

    There was a great interview during this morning’s today programme. I usually ignore the sport but this morning Rob Bonnet was talking to a female Irish jockey and the subject of racing being dominated by male jockeys came up. The lady, apologies but I forget her name, stated that the fact it was male dominated was nobody’s fault, not all little girls wanted to be jockeys. Bit off piste for the BBC I thought and you could almost feel the disappointment through the airwaves.
    Still, the BBC news room recovered by the time PM aired and was back on form. This time, our national treasure was having trouble understanding how Salah Abdeslam evaded capture in Belgium for so long despite a massive manhunt. Difficult one that. It’s not as if there are any pockets of like minded individuals who could have harboured him is it? The sad thing is, they think they are pulling the wool over our eyes.

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Yes, where did they find him? Oh silly me, Molenbeek of course. I wonder why he thought that would be a good place to hide out?

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    • DownBoy says:

      Great piece of common sense from the female jockey which clearly discombobulated the beeboid sports reporter. I think it was Ruby Walsh’s sister Katie.

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  10. taffman says:

    Al Beeb telling us that IDS is quitting his post ?
    Will he be the next Tory/UKIP/Brexit leader ? Will he get us out of the EU ?
    Now , will he tell us more about the ‘super fabricated state’ ?

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  11. taffman says:

    Questions that could be asked about today’s arrests in Belgium ……………….
    Why did it take so long to find them ?
    Were they being aided and hidden in the ‘community’ ?
    Why were riot police on standby ?

    I smell a rat being hidden.

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    • Sir_Arthur_Strebe-Grebling says:

      Much the same questions that could be asked about taxi-drivers and kebab-shopkeepers in Rotherham, Rochdale, Oxford, etc.

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  12. taffman says:

    The benefits of ‘open door’ borders and poor quarantine thanks to the EU regs. .
    A tick-borne disease hits the UK which could be fatal to dogs. Does this apply to foxes also ? Now with the rise of the fox population because of the fox hunting ban this could get interesting as they spread the tick around the countryside and suburbs of the UK.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-35794126

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    • Number 7 says:

      Shwmae taffman.

      The next headline will be about how poor Fluffy Wobblebut has been infected by those poor fluffy lupines

      The foxes I’ve seen in Swansea certainly don’t look like the ones I’m used to seeing (apart from the usual sense of entitlement associated with unwelcome immigrants).

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      • taffman says:

        Shwmae rhif saith.
        The ones in Haverfordwest are always rummaging in the bins and bags outside the house on bin day .
        They will be spreading those ticks about on the urban parkland.
        Are badgers infected by this tick?
        This is not looking good .

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  13. Thoughtful says:

    Iain Duncan Smith has resigned over the Evil Greed of Gideon Osborne! The Disability cuts I wrote about at the top of the page have found a Tory with a spine and a conscience. I expect more will follow, and this might lead to Osbornes resignation.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35848687

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    • Thoughtful says:

      “I have for some time and rather reluctantly come to believe that the latest changes to benefits to the disabled, and the context in which they’ve been made are, a compromise too far. While they are defensible in narrow terms, given the continuing deficit, they are not defensible in the way they were placed within a budget that benefits higher earning taxpayers. They should have instead been part of a wider process to engage others in finding the best way to better focus resources on those most in need.

      “I am unable to watch passively while certain policies are enacted in order to meet the fiscal self imposed restraints that I believe are more and more perceived as distinctly political rather than in the national economic interest. Too often my team and I have been pressured in the immediate run up to a budget or fiscal event to deliver yet more reductions to the working age benefit bill.

      “There has been too much emphasis on money saving exercises and not enough awareness from the Treasury, in particular, that the government’s vision of a new welfare-to-work system could not be repeatedly salami-sliced.

      “It is therefore with enormous regret that I have decided to resign.

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      • Mr.Golightly says:

        Duncan Smith is an honourable politician and a decent man. A very rare combination Well done IDS. Now for Brexit.

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        • Thoughtful says:

          He didn’t resign because of Brexit! He resigned because of Osborne’s untrammeled greed

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          • Geoff says:

            Maybe, but it does free him up to allow him to campaign for Brexit…..

            Guest speaker at the next GO meeting?

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          • Mr.Golightly says:

            Yes Thoughtful, I understand that, and that is why I was praising him. Now I hope that he will direct his considerable political and personal skills towards achieving a majority vote to leave the accursed European Union.

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          • Rob in Cheshire says:

            Thoughtful:

            Seeking to eliminate the annual defecit does not qualify as “greed”. Osborne is in fact an ineffectual Chancellor, under whose watch the National Debt has doubled to £1.5 trillion. For someone who poses as being in favour of reducing government spending, he is doing a spectacularly poor job of it.

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    • Dave S says:

      It weakens your argument to portray Osborne as evil. He patently is no such thing. Misguided ,wrong and of poor judgement but evil? I don’t think so,

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  14. Mr.Golightly says:

    As a man of Moroccan heritage and the world’s most wanted terrorist is apprehended in Brussels, just over the border in the Netherlands a popular and courageous politician is being prosecuted on a hate speech charge –

    “The Dutch anti-immigration politician Geert Wilders has appeared in court charged with inciting hatred against Moroccans.”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35842922

    Elsewhere in Brussels, after the EU/Turkey sham –

    “Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu said it was a “historic” day.
    “We today realised that Turkey and the EU have the same destiny, the same challenges and the same future.”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35840272

    Vote Leave! If we don’t then we are truly done for.

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  15. Dave666 says:

    So much heat & light generated by “possible”reduction in PIP looks like IDS has gone in connection with changes to benefit. Another sacred cow that can not be criticised. Well I’m afraid I’m not that sympathetic. Of course as usual with sacred cow stories it’s all about the knee jerk reaction and lite on facts.
    My particular favourite is a disabled person needs help , their partner who is also disabled claims Attendance allowance for their partner and vice versa then in more than one case claim Attendance for child / children. As usual in these cases we don’t the kind of figures of benefits being paid. No great uproar about JSA being frozen.

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    • Thoughtful says:

      It’s not a ‘possible’ and it’s not PIP ! It’s a 30% reduction in ESA which take the disabled below the amount they need to live, just so Tory Millionaires can have even more money!

      Why do you hate your own people so much Dave? Why do you think it’s OK to give money away to (mostly) Muslims who have wrecked their countries, yet object to the people of this country less fortunate than yourself receiving a marginal amount to exist on?
      You think it’s easy for them to live on just £100 pw?
      Please justify to me why you think they should lose £30 a week and it be handed straight to the wealthy?
      Don’t give me some cock and bull story that you’ve heard a rumour that someone in the outer Hebrides isn’t really eligible. back it up with hard FACTS and lets judge the reality.
      Don’t forget that ATOS with all its ridiculously strict criteria found these people unfit to work!
      Perhaps you are of the opinion that some of our brave wounded soldiers have only themselves to blame for their injuries, and deserve, nay would enjoy being starved, just so some Tory millionaire can benefit?

      Are you a millionaire Dave 666? What do YOU stand to gain from this transfer of money ? Don’t forget this isn’t a saving made by the treasury, it’s a saving which is the spent on tax cuts.
      Who in your eyes is more deserving the wounded war veteran or the idle millionaire? Wanna have a second think about this?

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      • Sir_Arthur_Strebe-Grebling says:

        What has all this class-warfare got to do with the biased BBC?

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        • Thoughtful says:

          So you see Osborne’s persecution of the disabled to give more money to the wealthy as class warfare, and Iain Duncan Smith as a ‘class Warrior’?

          Wow Sir_Arthur_Strebe-Grebling, you ever think you might have some extremism issues?

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          • Sir_Arthur_Strebe-Grebling says:

            I meant, of course, your own class-warfare with which you have been spamming this board all day. Why don’t you take your campaign to a more suitable blog, and leave Biased-BBC to deal with issues of BBC bias?

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            • Thoughtful says:

              When have I ever appeared to you as a ‘class warrior’? To use such language demeans both you and the boards!
              Iain Duncan Smith obviously felt as strongly about this as I did or he wouldn’t have resigned from the cabinet.
              Saying something is wrong when it is does not make someone a ‘class warrior’! The Tories are not perfect – far from it, and criticising them for their greed and inability to see just what they are doing is absolutely NOT class warfare!
              To even think this was reasonable is extremism in itself! When Tory cabinet ministers can see this why can’t you?

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            • Essexman says:

              I agree , Mr T . has got a bee in his bonnet , all these migrants would be entitled to these benefits too. So cutting some would be good, so they don`t get a free car too.I need a new VW , can the State provide me with a free one as well.

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              • Number 7 says:

                From previous comments, I think you will find it’s Mrs or Ms T Eman

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              • Aerfen says:

                Mass immmigration is a VERY effective way for destroying the consensus that is required to support a welfare state!
                This is just one of the reasons why lefties supporting immigration is madness and logically inconsistent.

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              • Destroy-Deny-Degrade-Disrupt says:

                Aerfen, as usual, good point.

                Thoughtful, I sympathise. And I think most do.

                Also, IDS has no morals, so God knows what he’s up to here. Who cares, though.

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      • Dave666 says:

        Oooh Thoughfull. I couldn’t give a toss what you think.

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        • Dave666 says:

          I spent nearly 20 odd years working in front line benefits. Although I assume you know better than me because you have also worked within the benefit system. I am aware therefore of the amount of piss taking that takes place. As well as those cases that are in great need, Trouble is the ones that need it the most are normally the ones hit hardeest. One of the reason is that there is no proper debate on these issues. It is a sacred cow no one can criticise or people start jumping up and down and sounding off. As soon as these cuts are mentioned there is a mass move to shout down the conversation. I notice you don’t criticise the freeze on JSA is that OK then?
          Oh and I don’t hate my own people. I don’t know where that came from. I’m also an ex-squaddie who has been on active service but then I suppose you are as well.

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  16. Dazed and Confused says:

    This really really is frightening stuff showing us the future of Europe…

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    • Dave S says:

      A sober assessment of the new reality in Germany. The BBC will never attempt to deal with this. Not even to try to dismiss it. The whole matter is far too toxic to the liberal mind.
      It is the worst form of moral cowardice and a dereliction of duty to the people of this country. There is far more than demographic change at stake. To discuss it is to be forced to deal with the entire liberal social edifice created over the last fifity years.
      The abrupt decline in the birthrate amongst middle class women . The elevation of their careers over and above their desire for children. The consequent dismissal of men’s feelings and just concern for the future of the nation leading to their increasing hostilty to committment and the marginalisation of young men .
      The spurious elevation of an absolute and illogical cult of equality that pervades every part of society. The continued attack upon the traditional family and the attempts to undermine and replace it.
      To begin to face up to this possible future as in the video is to open up all for discussion and who knows what will happen than. Political correctness will not be able to hold the line for the current power structure.
      It is not the possible importation of a hostile people that is the root of the problem but the enemy within our own people determind as it has been for many years to wreck our civilisation just because it can.
      Which is why we need to understand just what this culture war really is about. The BBC is not on our side . It’s power is being used against an ancient people and a fine old nation.
      It will deserve it’s eventual fate.

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    • Al Shubtill says:

      Thanks for posting that excellent (disturbing) film D&C; I look forward to seeing something similar done by al beebus soon…oh no wait – no f*****g way!

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  17. taffman says:

    Is this our biggest achievement attained from the EU before we get out ?……………….
    EU leaders have agreed a deal that will allow the UK to scrap the so-called “tampon tax”, British officials say…………
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-35834142

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    • 60022Mallard says:

      Presumably the point that we have to go cap in hand and get “permission” from Brussels is lost on many.

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  18. Geoff says:

    I know nothing about the benefits system, but in my simplistic view this is all down to one thing, lack of money.

    We give, houses, cars, TV licence, TV, microwaves, fridges and god knows what else to the waifs and strays from all around the world, yet refuse to admit there is a problem, ie we can’t afford it, but its always those who don’t have the voice to shout racism when refused help that will suffer first.

    Again in my simplistic view, until we chop immigration and get out the EU we are never going to be able to sort between our own feckless and needy we are never going to be able to see the wood for the trees.

    Tough decisions have to be made , but lets start with those who don’t deserve, either by birth (maybe a generation or 2 back) or by contribution, not our own, we can sort them at a later date.

    Only last night a plea went out on my local BBC for private landlords in Bristol for homes for Syrian refugees, great now who’s paying these landlords? Not only were landlords coming forward but every bit of new household and expensive paraphernalia was being loaded onto vans to fill theses houses (I fancy a new flat screen and gratis TV licence) its not just houses, think schools, think health, its all costing us the tax payer, but in many cases its the John and Jane Smiths that are suffering in silence.

    Something is very wrong, divide and conquer is going on and its happening on this very thread….

    Don’t get me wrong, the feckless are taking the piss, but they should not necessarily be the first on the hitlist….

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    • EnglandExpects says:

      If the average PIP payment to disabled people has reached £100 a week, and the government wants to cut this because its ‘too high’ , it would be interesting to compare this figure with what an asylum seeker costs the UK taxpayer per week, say in their first year. I’ll bet its more than £100 when the basic living allowance is added to the costs of housing, education, healthcare etc etc. Lets say that lot comes to £250 a week. The 20,000 Syrian refugees being phased in over the next few years will then be costing us £260 million a year for all 20,000. Added to that we have the costs of the approximately 60,000 other ‘worthies’ granted asylum in the last year of reported data. Thats an extra £720 million a year. We are almost at a £1 billion p.a. figure, not far off the £1.3 billion that Osborne was trying to take from the disabled. Do we have the right national priorities?

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  19. Lock13 says:

    Bushell the boy child at it again Victoria Pendleton came 5th in the Foxhunter not a mention of who won it .I would have probably come 4th if I could have been bothered.
    England women’s Rugby zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
    Ahhh Sport relief managed to not see any of it . But here comes the hilarity some bloke going round the velodrome on his old chopper bike , don’t BBC my sides are hurting from all of the laughing.It was amazing night apparently
    When is Muzzo Relief ?

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    • Geoff says:

      Unless I’m very much mistaken, given the imagery shown on the heart rendering VT’s, it would appear that Children in Need, Sports Relief and Comic Relief are very much that….

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      • Lock13 says:

        lol by jove I think you are right. Think there was a sketch I caught there from the Barbados Broadcasting Company with Idris too – must have been a slow day for filming sofa adds

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  20. AsISeeIt says:

    7.46 to 7.58am – a good place to bury BBC Newswatch

    Keenly hoping to avoid Sport Relief I tune into the News Channel only to stumble on a bloody retrospective of yesterday’s nonsense. BBC PR are still bottom feeding off London 2012. We’re told some item of Sport Relief took place in the stadium formerly used for Olympic Hand Ball – how very appropriate for this pointless overblown masturbatory exercise.

    To Newswatch and Samira Ahmed interviews Kamal Ahmed – the two Ahmeds…. and it’s a good BBC from him and a good BBC from her….

    Budget news…

    As we like to say in these parts – the BBC talking economics is like watching a fish ride a bicycle

    The viewers wonder ‘Could the BBC be more informative?’

    ‘Solely looking at the Budget in a political way’

    ‘Too much speculation beforehand – not news!’

    But Samira is just tickling Kamal with a wet lettuce. And anyway it’s not his fault – “I’m just one of a big set of people who speak about economics at the BBC”

    My own criticism is that the BBC views everything through a political lens

    But Kamal corrects me “In economics there’s no right and wrong” Really?

    Funnily enough the BBC seems to think there is right and wrong in politics!

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    • Guest Who says:

      Pretty sure they are comfortable in their belief there is only left and the bowels of hell that is anything else.

      Impartially and with integrity, natch.

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    • Al Shubtill says:

      AISI – the political view of al beebus is: if you’re Right, you’re wrong.

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  21. Oldspeaker says:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-35836218
    Nice filler article about the Airlander 10, would have liked a little more fact checking regarding the line,
    “The US Army ran out of money to develop it as a surveillance machine”
    Now there may have been many and varied reasons as to why the US military chose to stop funding this project, but my guess would be “ran out of money” isn’t one of them.

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  22. The Old Bloke says:

    If you hadn’t heard from Roger Harrabin of the BBC, the drought in California is pretty much over. In fact their empty reservoirs are now, pretty much full and it is not the end of the rainy season yet. According to the “warmists”, this was not supposed to happen but it has. Funny that. It now looks like over here in the U.K. March is shaping up for being one of the driest on record and even with a wet January and early February, the South West looks like, for Jan, Feb and March, drier than the 42 year average. And for those up in Scotland, enjoy the extended ski season, I believe it is the best March ski season for a very long time. That too, shouldn’t be happening….but it is. Oh, and a snowy Easter for those North of Manchester. Nature has not bought into the “Global Warming” religion, unlike the Far Left BBC

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    • 60022Mallard says:

      Having told all the media last month that by carefully selecting three stations triangulating central England that this winter is on track to be the warmest “ever”, as long as March isn’t cold, the Met Office would seem to have made themselves rather a hostage to fortune.

      I shall be contacting my national newspaper, which faithfully regurgitated the MO press release, to make sure that they similarly headline the actual out turn – if the MO will let them have the figures!

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      • Geoff says:

        Spot on, have you noticed that the weather forecasters are suggesting maximum temperatures 2 or 3 degrees higher than what is actually being achieved? Yesterday in my region 8deg was estimated, yet it only maxed out at 5.2, not to mention the windchill factor, a figure that used to be quoted, but seems to have been omitted from recent forecasts.

        We’ve had a cold north/north easterly for almost the whole of March.

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    • Essexman says:

      Yes , the SFO area in mid California , has had a lot of rain recently. I get weather updates on F/B from ABC 7 , in the Bay , Area . They do have a rather, fit Indian ( Asian )weather presenter too.

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    • Old Goat says:

      Let’s face it, when all is said and done, the BBC, the IPCC, NOAA, NASA, The Met Office, and quite probably the rest of us, too, really haven’t a clue about climate or weather – it just happens, often without rhyme nor reason, and other than an occasional local inconvenience, none of it offers the slightest threat to humanity, or any other living thing on the planet.

      I think that we should all forget about weather/climate, which is happening all the time, always has, and always will, and concentrate, instead upon how to get rid of the bastard BBC, and protect our various nations from the flood of clamouring “enrichers”, who are by far the biggest threat to us all (unless, of course, your name is Merkel, Cameron, Obama, etc., etc…).

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    • xplod says:

      OB, being a bit of a weather “fan”, I have a little weather station here in the East Midlands. This side of the country is about on average (for the past 3 or 4 years) for rainfall so far (2013 – 135mm; 2014 – 192mm; 2015 – 52mm; 2016 – 174mm) – I have records for further back, but I changed station and software in 2012, so they’re not instantly available.

      As for temps, we’re about average, too. 2013 = 4.0c; 2014 = 7.1; 2015 = 5.4; and 2016 = 5.7. So, when the MSM screams warmest evah day, week, month, year or whatever, I generally ignore it.

      And the difference in rainfall between your area and mine just emphasises the variations that can exist.

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  23. BRISSLES says:

    Travel show on the Beeb news channel is showing Berlin’s changing face with asylum seekers – interviewing everyone who’s got a gripe against their own country. But um there are walking tours organised for them. That’s Germany off my visit list. Very soon all countries will be the same, apart from having a beach and landmark buildings. I really don’t want to visit top European cities anymore – what will be the point ? I want to see Parisiens in Paris, not bloody migrants from Africa and Asia – I can do that if I go to London !!!!

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  24. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC Breakfast TV News. 09.08 this morning.

    Sofa pair hand over to Ben Brown in Molenbeek, Brussels for his interview with the Molenbeek Mayor.
    A discussion follows regarding the arrest in Molenbeek of the suspect wanted for the his part in November’s Islamic atrocity.
    Ben Brown hears without question the ‘Terrorist and Muslim Community as Victims’ narrative from the Mayor as follows:-

    BROWN: Are you surprised that he (terrorist) was able to hide for weeks or even months?

    MAYOR: We know that they have logistics around them, so it would be normal for him to be here.What I would say, is that it is good that he has been caught as it should bring a better image to the community. We are speaking of a very little minority acting in these acts of terrorism.

    BROWN: But there have been a lot of raids in connection with the Paris attacks, clearly there are those who sympathise?

    MAYOR: Yes of course this is logical when you have young people less than 35 years old with 40% unemployment they are free to have some messages from outside of extremism, and it’s important that we help them and their families face the situation. And that’s what we are working on.

    BROWN: Thank you very much indeed.

    And no counter view from the sofa people. Ben Brown and the BBC continue with their victim narrative.
    1. Terrorists are victims and motivated by 40% unemployment.
    2. Communities are therefore victims.

    Therefore the real terrorists are the West in their eyes.

    Biased BBC. Always the Left wing narrative.

    ..

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    • Al Shubtill says:

      Last night I watched the coverage of this, on ITV national news, and I could have sworn the voiceover masked the shouts of “Allah Akbar” from a gathering mob of our mutual friends who were watching the police operation.

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    • Grant says:

      I was unemployed for 2 years many years ago. Didn’t turn me into a terrorist sympathiser. But , then I actually wanted to work !

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  25. G.W.F. says:

    Today is the Trot and Luvvie day for standing up to racism and supporting gimmies. In Trafalgar Square the leaders of the Greens, Corbynistas, Fatty Abbot, and Vanessa Redgrave will be offering places at their home for the down trodden.
    So far the BBC have not mentioned it. Why?

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  26. Cranmer says:

    Lots of worthy waffle about the need for more school places on Any Questions today. No mention, naturally, of WHY we need more school places.

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