478 Responses to WEEKEND OPEN THREAD…

  1. Steve Jones says:

    If you think the BBC is bad, and it is, then it isn’t alone:
    http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/teenagers-jailed-for-attacking-two-families-in-southern-france-as-women-were-wearing-shorts/ar-AAiGkUQ?li=BBoPOOl&ocid=mailsignout
    Again, the MSM should note that the comments reveal nobody is fooled. Apart from a few lefties posting there who seem either wittingly or unwittingly confused about the whole thing.

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    • lol@bbcEUlost says:

      Mentally ill Norwegians seem to be everywhere nowadays

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    • Dover Sentry says:

      If the attacks had been on muslim women by white christian males with short hair, you can bet the their description would have been included.

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      • Aerfen says:

        Even if the attacks were on ethnic French women and the “men” white and Christian there would have been no holds barred.

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    • Demon says:

      I’m sure the left-wingers are all lining up to condemn the attackers after all they keep telling us that women must be allowed to wear what they want (particularly if ordered to by their husbands). They all lined up to condemn the French for keeping certain un-French items off the beach which provoked understandable hostile reactions. They surely must be just about to condemn these people who want to deny women the perfectly legal and decent clothes that they want to wear.

      Yes, I can hear something…. Sorry, it’s only the sound of the wind blowing some tumbleweed down the road.

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      • BRISSLES says:

        If these Muslim ladies wade into the sea fully clothed are then dragged under the water by the weight of their clothes, who will the blame be placed upon if they drown ? Personally I cant see the attraction, if they want wet clothes clinging to their bodies just sit in the bath. We did it years ago to shrink our jeans.

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    • G says:

      Slowly but surely a form of McCarthyism returns on a new subject from Communism: non Muslim White Folk.

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  2. Doublethinker says:

    The government intention to allow and promote grammar schools will give the BBC and the rest of the left plenty to chew on for a while.They may even be so enthused by their outrage at this ‘Apartheid by intelligence’, as they would put it, that they will forget their outrage over Brexit for while. Imagine their agony , first the sacred cow of the EU is slaughtered by the mob and then their educational God of Comprehensives for All , is under determined assault by the PM. Obviously the BBC will soon be regarding the PM as a Thatcher clone and begin a determined , no holds barred, attack.We can expect wall to wall teaching unions , educationalists etc etc, on Toady, PM etc and several Labour MPs claiming we are returning to Dotheboys Hall schools.The teachers will threaten strike action , the BBC will propagandise on their behalf. The cry will be that all the progress in education of the last 50 years is being undermined.The fact that we slipped disastrously down the OECD league table from top six to mid twenties over the past 30 years will be ignored by the BBC. And of course those who make most noise will likely have been privately educated and also educate their children privately. The stench of hypocrisy is always strong when you deal with Labour or the BBC.
    This move to grammar schools will also flush out those in the House of Lords who believe that because there is no real opposition the HofC at present, it is their job to stop any legislation that liberal left elite don’t like from becoming law. Sooner or later the PM needs to curb the rebellious peers. But we on this site have been saying the same thing about curbing the BBC for years but nothing ever happens. Perhaps the new PM has something in mind for the detested BBC, I do hope so.

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    • Deborah says:

      Listening yesterday to the BBC the constant bleat was that a grammar school wasn’t fair to the less academic. Say it enough times and it becomes true. Perhaps we could start with the right school for the right child, specific schools for the children who are most able to build things or schools for the artistically gifted, ie be positive about the alternatives to grammar school education. You tell a child even once that they are a failure and therefore at a school for failures the prophecy will become self fulfilling. But we cannot expect the BBC, the Left and all the Labour Party members of the teaching profession to let children’s education get in the way of their agenda.

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      • Demon says:

        “the constant bleat was that a grammar school wasn’t fair to the less academic.”

        It’s like saying the Olympic Team GB is unfair to the less sporty, or record sales are unfair to the less musical, or the Premier League is unfair to the less skillful footballers.

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        • thirdoption says:

          “the constant bleat was that a grammar school wasn’t fair to the less academic.”

          At least you can’t accuse those that are doing the bleating of being hypocrites – Harriet Harman and Diane Abbott would never send their children to private school.

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          • tarien says:

            Agreed-however personally the age of entry being 11 to Grammar Schools is far too young, why not make the age of entry 13, this would be fairer on those like myself who were (what was called, slow starters)finding my eventual brain development at about 14/15 as I recall. Was much happier, but did know others who went to Grammar School aged 11 that were found quite understandably to be struggling for some yrs. Every young person develops their education at different speeds of learning-some thought ‘stupid & thick’ by certain teaching staff, were later to show that was far from the case as one I know who became an engineer and ended up MD of a major concern. So if we are to have a growing Grammar School development, let the intake begin @ 13yrs of age.

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            • thirdoption says:

              Couldn’t agree more tarien,

              Throughout my whole career I’ve found the best work colleagues to be those that took a while for things to sink in but once it had went on to excel.

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            • Athelstan says:

              Way back, there were two entrance points to State Grammar School – the 11+ and the 13+. Both of these exams included a general intelligence test. For some reason the existence of the 13+ is rarely acknowledged. There were also Scholarships and various financial assistance packages (usually private and confidential) that ensured no child was excluded for reasons of low parental income.
              At the State Grammar school (900 boys including 6th Form) I was fortunate enough to attend in the 50’s and 60’s, there was a far wider spectrum of socio-economic groups represented, than the mixed Comprehensive (1600 pupils) my children attended in the 80’s and 90’s.

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            • joeadamsmith says:

              In N Derbys, my area, 11+ split the children. BUT, if the child at the secondary modern showed the aptitude, at 13, they were able to transfer over to the grammar school.

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              • taffman says:

                joeadamsmith
                Same here.

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              • John C. says:

                I believe this late entry system was quite common, but the opponents of selection fail to observe this, and instead shed tears over those who are not academically able. Personally, if I’ve got tears to shed, it will be over the intelligent but retiring child, afraid to show its ability in a thuggish environment where getting the right answers and showing keenness is best avoided.
                I just cannot sympathise with those who bleat on about “elites”, when in all other aspects of life they are willing to fawn over and worship the best, even if they’re the best at something pointless, like running round and round a track. It infuriates me that academic ability is considered something to hide and be ashamed of.
                Pure left-wing dumbing down.

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              • robert says:

                Kids who did well at Secondary Modern could also transfer to Grammar school to do their A Levels

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        • John C. says:

          Quite right, but in fact it’s worse than this, because whereas bread and circuses, where elite performers are apparently OK, are just to keep the mob amused, schools will hopefully provide those who in future will carry out the essential development of the country, the engineers, the doctors (those who don’t flee to Oz), the pilots etc., and I would like to see the best candidates in such responsible positions. Sort out the most able, work ’em hard and reward them- in fact, reverse the present educational method.

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    • Richard Pinder says:

      The BBC say the House of Lords is in uproar. Apparently the House of Lords, the only non-Democratic and Totally Elitist Legislature in the Western World, is against Elitism based on Intelligence and Academic ability.

      So this House approves of Elitism based on Monetary Purchase and Arse Licking. And even by Birth, as long as they elect themselves. But not by merit.

      It now looks like the future surviving power base of both the Labour Party and the Libdems, will be as hypocritical ermine gowned elitists, fighting against a democratic and merit based society.

      Also I saw them interview parents outside an inner-city School. There must have been a lot of support for Grammar Schools, because they actually allowed a broadcast of a parent saying that they thought it was a good idea because he could not afford to send his children to a Private School.

      The hypocrites claim to oppose Grammar Schools because, the less academic will remain to suffer as they do now, is actually an argument in favour of Grammar Schools. So as to prevent everyone suffering from poor education, including those who have the ability to escape from poor education.

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      • G says:

        RP, it would be an interesting exercise to determine what number of Lords attended a grammar school.

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      • JimS says:

        There was a programme a few years ago following children starting at secondary schools in Birmingham.

        The ‘young ladies’ at the Girls’ grammar school were encouraged by their new headmistress to ascend to the heights; meanwhile a poor white lad was worried about leaving his 99.9% ‘black’ primary school, shouted at to get in line and finally given a lecture about how every minor misdemeanor would inevitably lead to prison! Just to rub in the message the school had a resident policeman! The joys of a ‘comprehensive’ education!

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  3. Deborah says:

    Woman’s Hour on Friday morning, Jenny Murray says that the stories about Muslims portray them in a poor light and as an example gave the story of three women with gas canisters in Paris a couple of days ago. To be honest and not really listening to the news, I had assumed there was only one Muslim involved. However I assume they did not have the canisters in the car because they were on their way to a barbecue. This was Mrs Murrays introduction to a group of women portraying a positive image of Islam.

    This was followed by a sorry about women in Lebanon who were dying their hair red, having it straightened and having cosmetic surgery. We never have similar stories about ladies from Japan, New Zealand or Iceland in this vein.

    Does the BBC not realise that they are no longer a station serving white middle class Britain? Until they deactivate the off button, we still have the choice not to listen to their propaganda.

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    • gaxvil says:

      Yep, heard the trailer. Why does the BBC never give air time to any other religious group – there are plenty out there ?

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    • StrumPattern says:

      I have been exercising my choice since 1997. But having said that, BBC Radio can occasionally throw up some nuggets. Brain Matthews’ Sounds of the Sixties, and Paul Jones Rhythm & Blues Show. Strange, but I always find something else to do when their news comes on.

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    • NCBBC says:

      The three women were traced, and when they saw the police, attempted to stab them.

      One “French/Norwegian/Algerian” woman,apparently with mental issues, was wounded.
      ————————–
      French police arrested three women on Thursday in connection to a car containing suspicious gas cylinders that was abandoned in central Paris over the weekend. One of the women was wounded seriously during the operation.

      http://www.france24.com/en/20160908-france-three-women-arrested-car-gas-cylinders-notre-dame-paris

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    • taffman says:

      Al Beeb hate the British Identity . They see only multiculturalism and internationalism . In fact they have been airbrushing out our proud nation’s history for the last forty years and replacing it with ‘how good’ the rest of the world is.
      Have they ever wondered why all the world is trying to get in here ?
      Time to get rid of Al Beeb.

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      • G says:

        Taffman, or preferably banish them to ‘better’ overseas locations. Here’s a space coming up –

        Meanwhile, conveniently, Pakistan is expelling 300,000 Afghans:
        http://newobserveronline.com/pakistan-expels-3-million-afghan-refugees/

        Now hold-on, Pakistan, that’s against the Afghans’ Human Rights is it not? After all, Pakistan, your country is a signatory to the UNHCR Convention.
        It seems that the UNHCR Maestro Islamicist, Peter Sutherland is in agreement thus proving that Afghanistan is a safe country. Pity the same person bleats when the Europeans try to expel Afghans’ for the same reason.

        Welcome one and all to Germany?

        [Don’t you welcome this news from the BBC?]

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    • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

      For your interest, I note that the producers of two consecutive prog’s on Radio 4 today – the ‘Woman’s Hour’ omnibus with softly-spoken troublemaker Jenni Murray (from 16:00) and then ‘Saturday PM’ (17:00 to 17:30) – both had Muslim-sounding names. Is this the result of affirmative action? And might it explain people’s perceptions here of BBC coverage of Islam in general?

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  4. KatieH says:

    Hilary is amazzzing

    God help us

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  5. Maria Brewin says:

    Do they really mean burkas, and has anyone even started to think this through?

    British police force says it may allow female officers to wear burkas as part of uniform

    I cannot believe that I could be seriously expected to take instructions from someone whose face I cannot see.

    No way. Foxtrot Oscar.

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    • G.W.F. says:

      Maria Brewin,

      Do not underestimate the willingness of the cops to collaborate.
      Can you imagine a society where the cops tolerated the rape and indeed torture of 1400 children? Wow, people would be in arms, politicians demanding the sacking of cops. And the BBC running wall to wall coverage of their demand for justice.

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      • thirdoption says:

        “Can you imagine a society where the cops tolerated the rape and indeed torture of 1400 children? Wow, people would be in arms”

        It’s coming, and when it does those same hand-wringing wretches on the liberal left will ask “how did this ever happen?”

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      • NCBBC says:

        Two thousand, and that’s just in Rotherham. If one takes the whole country into account, we are in the region of 30,000 and up.

        I cant see this as anything but a war crime against one’s own children. I cant find a single instance in history, anytime anywhere, for such a happening.

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        • GRIM REAPER says:

          Police?…now officially worthless……after watching the disgusting hounding of Tommy Robinson with his family, obviously distressed, [ his wife is a rock ]. i detest the Police even more, following on from Rotherham…..a relative, retired officer, says he is repulsed by the force as it is now. I actually applaud any beating or shooting of an officer now, they deserve it. To you dumb cops out there….take a look at what victorious muslims do to captured police and army , stripped to their underwear, bound, lined up on their knees, shot in the back…..
          hundreds of them at a time..this will be the fate of British cops, make no mistake about it….poor, gullible fools.

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          • NCBBC says:

            They would be bothered, if they could understand the implications of an Islamic takeover of Britain. But they cant.

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        • Wild Bill says:

          And has anyone been bothered?

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        • Doublethinker says:

          NCBBC,
          Your guesstimate of 30 k victims of Muslim rape gangs is truly shocking. I realised it was a large number but when you actually put it down , 30 thousand is sickening. And you are right about it being extraordinary that the society to which these girls belong ignored these crimes and allowed them to continue. The liberal elite and their propaganda machine ,the BBC , are disgusting. We , the British people, never wanted to have these awful Muslims in our country. We were never asked . We don’t want them now. The BBC can show as many heart rending pictures as the like, real or contrived, about the plight of these migrants , but it won’t change my mind , nor I suspect that of most Brits, we don’t want them here , and those already here should leave and go back to their country of origin.If the dim wit politicians won’t listen then we will find leaders who will.

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          • G.W.F. says:

            Doubethinker

            If you were to read about a third world country where a dictator sent in the airforce to bomb the Political HQ and Police Garrisons that allowed such atrocities you would probably agree that rough justice of this kind was necessary, given the crimes against the people.

            Instead we get Nazir Afzal, Chief Public Prosecutor for the region who seems to have done buggerall beyond a few prosecutions maintaining it has nothing to do with Islam.

            In a recent speech boasting about his achievements he spoke of a movie that might be made about the Rotherham affair and expressed a hope that he would be played by Denzil Washington

            https://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/sep/03/nazir-afzal-there-is-no-religious-basis-for-the-abuse-in-rotherham

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          • NCBBC says:

            Doublethink
            The people will find the leader that will defend the nation. America has Trump, and the Establishment politicians, Republican and Democrat, the entire MSM, hate him.

            The child abuse inquiry is targeting famous person, but ignoring the elephant. In fact, it is designed precisely for that purpose- to transfer attention from Muslims to others. That does not mean that in any way excuse what others di, but the real problem is one that Muslims rapists did. Moreover, the treatment of young
            g girls was entirely in keeping with what ISIS, ( true Muslims ) do. Burt then what else would one expect.

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    • vesnadog says:

      Evenin all!

      “Muhamed of dock green” – don’t let the BBC elites hear about this though, they might make a series about inspector Muhamed.

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      • Lobster says:

        I dont know how they “keep ’em peeled” when they can’t see out of their bloody burkas.

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        • DownBoy says:

          How about the Islam friendly follow up to Z-Cars – ‘Salafi salafi task force’.
          (maybe too obscure?!)

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          • vesnadog says:

            I can see it now! The whole UK police force will have to start-up a brand new burka producing industry!

            Boy! Won’t that thingy guy on Newsnight love sending out his multitude of camera crews in order to show us really dim citizens how yet another bit of sharia law has NOT managed to be sneaked in by the back door (of No 10!)

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        • G says:

          But, Lobster, picture chasing a criminal in that garb. Oh, sorry, I forgot the Police don’t do that now.

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          • G says:

            Forgot: Anyone that has lived and driven in Saudi will lovingly remember the green and blue Police cars abandoned, slewn across the hard shoulders of any expressway, ‘blues and two’s’ left flashing all doors wide open whilst, yards away, they are all praying in the dessert……………
            Imagine that spectacle on the M4. It will need more white cops to direct the traffic to prevent gawpers (that’s assuming that there are any white gawpers, or indeed police left)

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        • NWStu says:

          And driving?………

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      • Maria Brewin says:

        That’s a hijab, not a burka or niqab.

        The general point about special concessions for religions has been made before. The point I am making is whether I can be obliged to cooperate with a police officer whose face I cannot see.

        It’s either sloppy reporting by the DT (everything seems to be a burka), or an unbelievably feckless move by the police.

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        • Spider says:

          I bow to your superior knowledge of servitile clothing. As for not seeing a coppers face when dealing, do you think the officers wearing a hijab will be able to deal with anything outside of the Islamic community. Such as a brawl on a Friday outside a pub, druggie shoplifter etc.You do have a point, but its only a matter of time I’m afraid.

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          • Maria Brewin says:

            I wasn’t trying to sound superior, the distinction was central to the point I was making and I Googled it to make sure. As far as I’m aware, police officers carry warrant cards. Would the photo on the card also conceal the face? Ridiculous.

            So far as dealing with a brawl outside a pub on a Friday night is concerned, I see quite a lot of coppers, female and male, who’d be challenged by a couple of fighting children.

            Whatever happened to the ex army types who could handle themselves?

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          • Aerfen says:

            The niqab wearers wont hav to deal with brawls, theyll be given nice cosy jobs while indigenous police have to deal with the tough stuff. Then there will be complaints that they are not in senior positions, so theyll be given leg ups, until on incompetent but self confident is made a chief constable of a metropolitan area.

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          • NWStu says:

            My concern would be that they would only deal with things outside the ‘community’. Besides, normal laws don’t seem to apply there much anyway.

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    • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

      What if you went into a Bank and one of these hooded women told you to remove your motorcycle helmet because your face was hidden?

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    • Doublethinker says:

      When I saw this report on Breibart I thought it was a spoof. Surely it can’t be true. I know the country , nah the west as a whole, has gone mad but this is a joke surely, you can’t be serious. I assume only Muslim women PCs will wear them, transgender PCs who convert to Islam won’t be allowed to. Pause ,but denying them the right to wear a burka would be an offence wouldn’t it? It wouldn’ t be respectful of their decision to reject being male . Oh well another case for the Sharia court. I also assume that they would wear all their PC bits and bobs , CS gas canister, pepper spray , baton, radio etc outside the garment , I mean it must take ages to find the right bit of kit rummaging around underneath the billowing black bin bag. Finally last week someone posted a nice picture of a high vis burka , surely the ones issued to police will be similar , otherwise motorists might not see them when they are on point duty and run em over. On second thoughts perhaps high vis is against their religious code, after all it does seem esoteric , if not to say peculiar, so they will need to stick to black and we will just have to take more care so as not to get one on the car bumper.

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      • BRISSLES says:

        Wasn’t there a report on here about the Scottish police recruiting Muslim hajib wearing women ?

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        • Oaknash says:

          I am very suspicious about this. And I think the BBC is trying to throw a veil over the truth.

          Has no one ever seen Robocop! – I think this could well be the introduction of the Mk 1 Met Dalek – onto the streets of the metropolis. We have already seen the prototype at work in Cambridge dealing justice to Tommy Robinsons rioting kids. – obviously they have now perfected the design.

          Dead givaway signs are the presence of a toilet plunger and an egg whisk being pointed around – and also frequent use of words such as exterminate!

          This must be the explanation because you would never put a policewoman on the streets dressed in an all encompassing robe with limited vision and movement.

          Unless of course you have become an organisation so cowed and enslaved to the god of political correctness you have forgotten what common sense and reality are and are willing to sacrifice all principles upon the alter of plain stupidity just to gain a few diversity browney (or should it be brown nose) points!

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      • gaxvil says:

        HULK SAY, “SMASH!”

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      • NWStu says:

        I thought that hi-viz picture was a new type of traffic cone to be honest.

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  6. G.W.F. says:

    Now that John Wayne has endorsed Hillary she has a fairly good chance of winning.

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  7. Colboysigma says:

    Tucked away in the West-Midlands section… http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-37308060
    Men on terrorist charges, no hint of mental illness yet!

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  8. Dazed and Confused says:

    The BBC loathe the idea of Grammar schools so much, they can’t even spell the word Grammar..

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    • Lobster says:

      Utterly classic!

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      • Gillian ?? says:

        I cannot help but notice quite a few grammatical and spelling mistakes on the BBC News online. The worst would probably have been when Terry Wogan passed away and there, in bold as ‘Breaking News’ was the headline – TERRY WIGAN DIES’. Absolutely shocking but it proves the calibre of proof readers if they do actually exist within the BBC.
        I have to say that within half an hour or so it was corrected. Hope the offender was reprimanded? Doubt it.

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  9. Pounce says:

    The bBC its reporting on Vaseline Vaz and how he can only be innocent:
    Met Police considers claim Keith Vaz broke law
    The Met Police is to “assess and identify what criminal offences – if any” have been committed by Keith Vaz following claims over his private life.

    What the bBC doesn’t want you to know is that Vaz paid for his rent boy romps with money from a Charity he runs. Here is what the Telegraph has to say on the matter:
    The Charity Commission said it would look into allegations that the Leicester East MP and chairman of the powerful home affairs select committee used funds reportedly from an individual linked to the Silver Star diabetes charity to pay Eastern Europe escorts with whom he had a liaison at his London flat last month….bank statements belonging to one of the male prostitutes purportedly show two payments of £150 each received from a man linked to Silver Star.The first of these payments was made on Aug 5, three weeks before the alleged liaison, although the prostitutes claimed they met Mr Vaz – who is married with two children – on more than one occasion. There is no suggestion that anyone associated with Silver Star was aware what the payments were for, but last night a former trustee of the charity said the matter had to be investigated as a matter of urgency.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09/05/keith-vazs-charity-links-to-rent-boy-scandal-as-mp-faces-investi/

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  10. Number 6 says:

    Posted this in the n african thread but its worth another go here….

    Next time a weirdo lefty or feminazi tries to shut down debate with cries of izlamofauxbia,hit em with this one

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  11. Thoughtful says:

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/708605/EXCLUSIVE-Labour-councillor-and-mosque-leader-hired-illegal-immigrants-and-dodged-tax

    Another enricher found with his hands in the till, yet Labour have done nothing to discipline him, or suspend him, despite him being barred from a company director for 6.5 years.

    He also failed to declare his interest at the council which would normally be an offence.

    Different rules obviously apply to the brown eyed favourites.

    Not reported by the Labour supporting Manchester Evening News nor the Labour supporting BBC.

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  12. Thoughtful says:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3781350/Police-force-planning-let-Muslim-officers-wear-BURKAS-attract-ethnic-female-minority-officers-boost-diversity.html

    Police force mocked over plans to let Muslim officers wear full BURKAS to attract more ‘ethnic female minority officers’

    Yes it’s the whacky Loonie Leftie Birmingham Political Correctness Squad at it again with more insanity !

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    • Maria Brewin says:

      As mentioned above, do they really mean burkas?

      The idiots in these rubbishy papers think everything is a burka.

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    • NCBBC says:

      British police are beyond parody. Even Monty Python would refuse this stuff.

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  13. Thoughtful says:

    And here is possibly the worst decision that a Tory PM has ever made in their first few months in office:

    Theresa May’s plans to relax admission rules for faith schools have been branded ‘regressive’ by a senior Tory MP.
    In sweeping education reforms announced today, the Prime Minister said faith schools will be able to select more pupils based on religion by removing the 50 per cent limit.
    But Conservative MP Dr Sarah Wollaston, chair of the health select committee, said the Government should be removing barriers in communities, not putting them up.
    She said allowing schools to select 100 per cent of their pupils based on faith ‘can have nothing to contribute to a more integrated and cohesive society’.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3781589/Senior-Tory-blasts-Theresa-s-regressive-plans-let-faith-schools-select-pupils-based-religion.html#ixzz4JmJEW0G4

    Of course Wollsaton is a Leftie speaking the usual leftie psychobabble but the government has told a bare faced lie in the way it has presented this policy disaster.

    It has used Roman Catholic faith schools as its example, but you don’t have to be Einstein to figure out that this is the go ahead for all Islamic free schools to be set up in the state sector and with state funding.

    Obviously this greed ridden woman is chasing that Saudi gold, and no doubt will be well rewarded for her betrayal when she leaves office.

    Islamic faith schools which largely teach Wahabist & Salafist Islam, have been shown to be teaching kids some incredibly intolerant views, and this move will simply serve to educate more terrorists in the obligation Jihad places on them, and the worthlessness of non Muslims.

    http://www.secularism.org.uk/news/2016/09/faith-school-admissions-reform-will-increase-discrimination-in-publicly-funded-schools

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    • G.W.F. says:

      I thought Cameron had sold out to the Saudis but the Appeaser is going the full stretch. Wait for her report which will endorse sharia alongside our legal system. And wait for the crack down on organizations and political parties that oppose Islamification.
      Britain’s Merkel.

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      • NCBBC says:

        A Hungarian professor, with genuine academic credibility, speaks of the incompatibility of Islam with Western values.

        http://vladtepesblog.com/2016/09/06/hungarian-academic-wrap-them-in-pigskin-and-deport-all-criminal-muslims/

        Must view.

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      • NCBBC says:

        And this

        France, where attacks on French police are taking place virtually every day. Today, yet another knife attack on police officers by three “Radicalised” French Muslim women.

        The French are now waking up, that if they dont do something quick, France will be lost to Islam. I have always maintained, since LGF days, that it will be France that will lead the fight against Islam. The French will not just fight with arms, just as the Americans and Brits do, but will attack Islam on the intellectual front. The French are good atrthis.

        So here is a discussion on RTL – a MSM TV.

        Éric Zemmour: French army prepared for civil war

        http://vladtepesblog.com/2016/09/08/eric-zemmour-french-army-prepared-for-civil-war/#comments

        Must see.

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        • manchesterlad says:

          It is strange how everyone I talk too (except for those on the left) know and understand the problem that Islam presents for civilisation. Even if they do not know the actual facts about Islam in any detail, you would have to be wilfully stupid not to get the essence of it, even from the so-called news presented by the BBC.

          Where the left have been very successful is through controlling what people know they are ‘allowed’ to say. What they say to me they only divulge after they realise I think the same as them. They know they cannot express these views elsewhere.

          The art of controlling what and how people think is fascism, pure and simple. The left have perfected fascism to a place where even most intelligent people don’t think to look for it.

          While most people realise Islam is a problem for the civilised west, the real enemy is the left. It is the stupid, arrogant, snobbish self-regarding left that have facilitated Islam to the extent where it now poses a real danger to all of us.

          The fascist left are not shy of using state violence to make sure the wishes of the people are suppressed. Let’s face it – we all fully understand what we are, and are not, allowed to think!

          Islam is the problem. The leftists are the enemy amongst us.

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      • Colboysigma says:

        Now that is embarrassing! The guy on the right isn’t even wearing a tie!

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      • Colboysigma says:

        Anybody remember the US comedian Bill Hick’s catch phrase… watch?v=ovc-O_z4daQ

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    • BRISSLES says:

      Has anyone spotted the error on the above signs ?

      Surely the Muslim sign would have the outline of a male in front leading a female figure !!

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    • chrisH says:

      No I want loads more faith schools.
      But if there is no action, no checking on what they teach-then they can`t be allowed, unless they subscribe to democratic values we live with.
      Not theocratic hell holes…but solely Judeo-Christian values that Lefties and Muslims would have to sign up to.
      For up to now-ALL comprehensives have been as faith based as the universities-faith in the EU, in Labour, in the UN,in multiculti Marxism, in TV license payments and in the Blair, Brown and Clinton project(BBC)

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  14. quisquose says:

    7:02 on the Today programme this morning:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07tmqpd

    BBC’s education correspondent Branwen Jeffreys couldn’t contain her bias with her opinions on Grammar Schools, but this was a particular gem of opinionated bias:

    “Inner city London schools have shown that comprehensives can help poor bright children excel. Many thought the debate about selection had become almost irrelevant. But this is post referendum politics, where the symbolic status of Grammar Schools as a chance to better yourself has trumped the expert consensus. It is an unashamed pitch to the values of non-metropolitan England”

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    • DownBoy says:

      Ah yes, the expert consensus, Branwen. How’s that economic armageddon going for ya? lol

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    • Dave S says:

      Ah non metropolitan England. That strange and dangerous places where there are dragons, unruly surly natives and roads that end in dark forests and where the trains just stop at abandoned stations.
      Poor Branwen you had best stay in London where life is real and the people wonderful.
      If you think the Chinese airline advice was a little harsh on London and I am sure you do then surely the Guardian and the BBC will excel them in advising on travel in the dark shires of England

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    • NWStu says:

      Well, if they are so bright, poor or not, they will pass the 11plus and go to Grammar school. Just like myself and many of my friends did.
      Do schools still practice streaming of classes? This is no different and no more discriminatory if so.

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  15. Lock13 says:

    So anybody got any ideas when we are actually leaving the EU? Usually if you leave a girlfriend or a job that’s it you are done, ok maybe a months notice for the work. Then finito that’s it all done. So what exactly are we waiting for? we won’t starve, the sun will still come up, we will all get on with making this Country great again. The BBC will start to do real news and programmes without climate change and constant male nurse snogging. Let’s get on with it

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    • Demon says:

      Lock13, our relationship is more akin to that of a battered wife to the big bully husband EU. As in most such relationships our leaders are frightened to begin divorce proceedings (Article 50) for fear of the threats made by the husband. When they finally sue for divorce it will take two years to reach decree absolute.

      Of course Cameron and the other remainders act more like the very typical battered wife who keeps telling herself that the husband will change (Cameron’s fictitious EU reforms) and everything will be alright in the end, so best to stick with the abusive husband. There is, of course, no real reason to think that the husband will actually change as the relationship has got gradually more unpleasant the longer the marriage has lasted, and he has given every indication that he will not change except for the worse.

      Also, they have been so cowed into a position, by the abuse, that they have lost any self-confidence to go it alone in the world any more, despite admitting that things in the relationship are very bad. That’s why it will take two years to discuss who keeps what but that only can commence once the divorce proceedings start.

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      • Lock13 says:

        Much better analogy then mine

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      • Oaknash says:

        Demon – you forgot the classic “Hes a bastard but I love him”

        As for Theresa like many remainers, I think she is hooked on this abusive relationship and is probably tying herself into knots trying to think of ways to achieve as little as possible with regards to brexit whilst trying to present herself to the rest of us that she is committed to leaving the EU.

        Until she honestly commits to a serious brexit agenda . I am afraid that she will spend the next few years regularly walking into “EU doors” Thats the thing in abusive relationships it takes a certain amount of courage and honesty to admit you are within one. Until you realise it yourself then you will never truly be able to leave.

        At the end of the day it is quite simple you say “I am going” you then pick up your belongings and go. The longer these phony negotiations go on for the more likely it is that EU will be able to hobble us and prevent our departure in any meaningful sense.

        Remember these bastards wrote the book on duplicitous bureaucracy, and have been doing it for years.

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  16. Sluff says:

    Just watched the bBBC1 6pm news.

    Apparently children from middle class leafy suburbs have better life outcomes than children fron working class ‘Coronation Street’ type housing estates.

    I am shocked, truly shocked at this incisive investigative reporting.

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    • Lobster says:

      The thing that shocks me, is that judging by the BBC video footage just how few white kids appear to attend school.

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    • chrisH says:

      Only wish the Tories would scotch this endless ” social inequality” meme of theirs.
      It`s a Lefty trope and a crock-so why the hell Tories don`t shaft the very concept as Marxist bullshit is beyond me.
      It is not the schools job to reduce “inequality”-nor is it the Treasurys either.
      The schools job is to find and develop tomorrows best brains and rescue them from the Left-as well as to stick the Left into the skip as the very movement who created all our educational cripples.
      When these people pay taxes-we`ll do fine; when they create new ways of doing things-we`ll all prosper.
      The Left only wants its own thick spawn to clog the best of Britains options for clever kids-especially from poor backgrounds who are as frequent in the population as are any other ability.
      And no end of time and effort should be used in reminding the Left of Harman, Falconer, Kelly, Blair, Abbott, Milne, Benn, Snow, Corbyn, Meacher-ALL privately educated, ALL using grammars or private schools for their OWN kids.
      And-of course-bloody Henry Dimblebys dad…utter hypocritical wankaz.
      Come on Tories-get personal with the Lewft and its fuckwarts at the BBC.
      Gove would do it….the lefties in education don`t like him-so he`s JUST the kind of bloke to screw them over.

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      • G.W.F. says:

        Time to rename the Tory Party.
        The Conservative Social Justice Party.
        Has a nice ring to it. Might catch a few Corbyn supporters.

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  17. Guest Who says:

    You’d know, Em; you’d know. Run it by Ian, he’s sure to be up for it.

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  18. BRISSLES says:

    So, I see we have a migrant from Cameroon (via Paris) in our midst. He is training courtesy of the NHS funding at the local tech to be a psychiatric nurse. Meanwhile he is syphoning off benefits from us taxpayer to keep his brood in their luxurious state. He has 8 children with the usual several hi viz tvs, games and assorted gadgets, and has been rehomed 3 times in accommodation with 3 plus bedrooms – he has turned down a 5 bedroomed house claiming it to be too small to house his offspring. He is outraged that the council are not finding him suitable accommodation. Well, if we are filling our NHS vacancies with overseas migrants of this ‘calibre’ then its a price too high to pay. There have been calls to send him and his family back from whence they came, but I fear it will come to nought, and so we have another 8 potential African families to feed and water for the foreseeable future.

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  19. An English Gentleman says:

    Sorry to drag everyone to the post by Maria (quite a few posts ago now). Maria, thanks for the great post it is very informative and just demonstrates the power the left fascists now have over the police but this can be extrapolated to all the other public services. But particularly the police – they have systematically been taken apart by the politicians, the media, the left (particularly the bbbc) who lose absolutely no opportunity to belittle, undermine, denigrate or criticise the police in any possible way. The chief officers are now so subservient to any politically correct whim or policy that can be invented. They have little or no authority to resist or God forbid it to say no to any left wing, politically correct policy because they will just be replaced.I should think the morale of the average white policeman is through the floor they are just becoming a joke.

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    • Dover Sentry says:

      I totally agree. Chief Constables have to display ‘cabinet responsibility’ as do all those who aspire to higher ranks. It’s absolute control from the ‘centre’ as per Marxism.

      All the problems in this country go back to Blair and are reinforced by the BBC.

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    • NCBBC says:

      Very good point. That is why it is important for the public to support the police.

      The tragedy is that the police have lost the confidence of the public, and are now helpless against PC lefty politicians and the BBC, probably becaue they did not uphold the law.

      The rot started at the time of Kojak.

      Why?

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      • RJ says:

        I think that the Home Office is pushing the county forces to amalgamate to destroy any residual county loyalty. Once local forces have been reduced to mere branches of a national organisation they will be creatures of the Home Office and will have no reservations about “obeying the orders”.

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        • Dave S says:

          In conversation with somebody who seemed to know it was put forward that in extremis the police would act against the ordinary citizens if ordered by whoever. In contrast the army might not be so willing.
          Perhaps many of us instinctively realise this hence the wariness regarding our police.

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          • manchesterlad says:

            Yes Dave, I wonder about this too. When it comes to civil unrest to what extent will the police follow orders to shoot and otherwise violently suppress members of the public who are not expressing the correct opinions?

            I suspect the army get less nonsense such as ‘diversity training’ than the police. The purpose of diversity training is, of course, to inculcate a dislike towards – and a dehumanisation of – the indigenous population. All training such as this is intended to program the recipient so they don’t need to think, but just know that ‘white is bad, non-white is good’. This makes it much easier for them to use violence with a clear conscience as it has been pre-justified by the training. After all, they are only eliminating enemies of the state – surely that must be a good thing?

            The army I suspect is less affected by this sort of training, so may be less likely to act against the population.

            I hope we never find out, but I suspect we will find out soon enough. To see the police drones at work oppressing Tommy Robinson for watching TV with his children https://shariaunveiled.wordpress.com/2016/08/29/uk-police-terrorize-tommy-robinson-and-his-3-little-children-before-forcing-them-to-leave-the-city-of-cambridge/ a few weeks ago … it does not bode well.

            As the leftist fascist state creeps up on us. Most are looking the other way.

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            • NCBBC says:

              The army I suspect is less affected by this sort of training, so may be less likely to act against the population.

              The army has been to Afghanistan and Iraq, and knows who the enemy is.

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              • Rob in Cheshire says:

                Sorry, but I think all armed agents of the state will turn their guns on the British people if ordered to do so. A few decent ones with a conscience will refuse, but they will be a small minority. This is the very reason the British government has followed a policy of civilian disarmament since 1920. When the time comes for them to gun down the people, they do not want anyone shooting back.

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                • NCBBC says:

                  I think there is a limit on how many of his own people a soldier can shoot.

                  Then there is breakins into armouries.

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        • NCBBC says:

          I hazard a guess.Its that big pension, after a mere 25 years on the force, that keep PCs toeing the line.

             13 likes

        • Scronker says:

          You just have to look at “Police Scotland”, or rather “No Police Scotland”. One police force which, in reality, is under the control of the Scottish Government.

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    • Edward says:

      Our police force has been a joke for MANY years! As someone who was brought up to respect the police, I have been dismayed by the rise police constables who, quite brazenly, show off their tattoos!

      The idea that they could be allowed to wear the burka horrifies me, even if it is targeted towards inner-city ghettos.

      I see traffic wardens numerous times on my visits to the town centre – but never cowardly-custard cops.

         21 likes

    • Spider says:

      Which is why I am leaving after 12 years of horse s*£#t. Had enough and off to Finland. Bye

         14 likes

      • Colboysigma says:

        LOL! Great place but you do know it’s becoming little Somalia? Locals ain’t happy…

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        • Spider says:

          Yes, but the Fins have learned from their mistakes. Of the 33 thousand migrants that arrived last year;(normally only 3 thousand a year) the vast majority have gone home. The Fins split the immigrants up and spread them through out the country to stop ghettoization. Then they stipulated the following, no relative shipped over, learn the language, get a job. Funnily enough most were happy to return to Iraq and Afghanistan after one winter. The only ones remaining were those willing to comply and wishing to become Finns. National service probably put a few off as well. I will be a bit old for national service, but I might volunteer anyway. My wife is Finnish and I do love the country, but the language us a bugger.

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  20. Lock13 says:

    Mark Carney has had his last go at trying to ruin our economy Theresa, lets pack the talentless idiot back home to Canada with that nancy boy Trudeau. I read a nice article in the Evening Standard yesterday night apparently the London Mayor – Mr Khan (can you say it and actually believe it) banned posters of girls in their swimsuits on the tube to help the anorexic kids – nothing to do with Islam teachings.The journalist who wrote it probably actually believed that.

       39 likes

    • An English Gentleman says:

      Lock13… re Carney absolutely HEAR, HEAR. He was nothing but a mouthpiece for the remainers and the Cameron/Osbourne pact

         37 likes

      • Lock13 says:

        Apparently he got run out of Canada for being a shit Central Banker and we gave him a job

           19 likes

        • Rob in Cheshire says:

          Yes, he stoked up a massive housing bubble there, and Gideon Osborne brought him over to do the same thing here.

             6 likes

      • Dave S says:

        Don’t forget Goldman Sachs will have found him useful.

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  21. gaxvil says:

    Thursdays Today – Outside Inquiry into racism at the Met.
    Did they find evidence of such? No, BUT, now get this – “there was a perception that racism existed in the Met.” So no evidence then? No, no evidence but the widely touted belief that anything and everything can be put down to discrimination, although in this inquiry, no evidence – just a belief! ANOTHER TOP STORY FROM THE BEEB THAT WENT FLAT oh dear.

       34 likes

    • Oaknash says:

      Just another way the pc brigade lead the police forces around by the nose and ensure that sensible policing always comes second place to being seen to be demonstrating your sensitivity to minorities. It doesnt take a genius to work out that Rotherham abuse scandal was inevitable.

         21 likes

    • manchesterlad says:

      Yes it is pathetic how submissive our establishment is to Islam. When our PM, as Home Secretary, banned Robert Spencer and Pamella Gellar from entering the country in 2004, the main reasons she gave were heresay:

      The Home Secretary notes that you are the founder of the blog Jihad Watch (a site widely criticized for being Islamophobic). You co-founded the Freedom Defense Initiative and Stop Islamization of America, both of which have been described as anti-Muslim hate groups.

      … A site widely criticised .. so what? That is not bad in itself. The BBC is widely criticised, does that mean it should be banned?

      …both of which have been described as … again, so what if it has been described as something. I could describe my dog as a mass murdering Nazi, should she automatically be tried as a war criminal?

      (https://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/01/robert-spencer-and-pamela-geller-are-still-fighting-back-against-their-ban-from-the-uk)

      So we seem happy to suppress someone just because someone else has described them to be something we don’t like. How pathetic!

      We have to have faith in our culture, and leaders who share that faith, or we are finished.

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      • Oaknash says:

        M Lad – Theresa probably took her lead from the MCB over whom to ban from the UK.

        It is interesting that even the MCB is now saying that burkah clad WPC s are not a good idea.

        But what I would like to know is this because
        1. Even the MCB have realised that the the Metropolitan Dhimmi Force have overplayed their pc hand and now are starting to look very ridiculous to even the most dyed in the wool left winger (apart of course from the BBC who would love this).

        Or is it because

        2. Being arrested by a “Dalek” lookalike WPC may well present a problem for some muslim males as under sharia law a womans word is only worth half that of a man. And being arrested by a burka clad female officer would definitely be more than a tad embarrassing For any true follower of the religion of peace. I suppose if we had three female arresting officers then that could be ok ?

        Interesting times!

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      • NWStu says:

        So we seem happy to suppress someone just because someone else has described them to be something we don’t like. How pathetic!

        You described hate crime reporting there. Only hearsay required.

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  22. popeye says:

    South Today on BBC had an item about a forthcoming drama about the first tank attack 100 years ago. Two principal characters are Basil and George. Basil was previously a Youth Worker. Really? A hundred years ago? Now I knew there were specialist regiments such as the Artists’ Rifles but I was not aware of the Armoured Regiment of Social Services Employees (ARSSEs for short)

       46 likes

    • Dover Sentry says:

      What’s the betting that ‘Basil’ is now black? And was passed over for promotion. He knew that billions and billions of British and ethnic minority lives were being wasted on the Western Front by upper class, Grammar School educated toffs who held a Generals rank.
      If only Basil had not been ignored, WW1 would have ended after two weeks….

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  23. gaxvil says:

    Just when is the BBC going to come out as a very well funded political party ?

       40 likes

    • chrisH says:

      They are better seen as a “sate within a state”.
      Own taxi raising powers-own paramilitary police, own lexicon and rules.
      Undemocratic liberal fascism by stealth.

         16 likes

  24. Mackers says:

    Only on the london bbc page, a man cycling down a street with a shotgun after shooting two people

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    • G.W.F. says:

      Anniversary of 9/11. Let us not forget the BBC one week after the event.

      Dimbletrot fills his Question Time with Moslem supporters and America haters. Put Tam Dallyall and Alibad Yasmin Brown with Paddy Ashdown on the panel against US Ambassador in a disgraceful leftish insensitive programme.
      Dimbletrot is still employed by the BBC

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      • chrisH says:

        Might have had a silver lining this one.
        Maybe THIS appalling display from the left and its BBC carrion led to the rise of John Bolton-who (in a sense) begat Donald Trump!
        Could be a family tree here from 13th Sept 2001 up to November 8th 2016…via Bolton, Farage etc-the BBC and that lefty scum you name deserve to be reminded of Newtons Third Law.

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      • Lock13 says:

        Fk me I was living in NY then did not realise it was so sht back here in 2001. Where was it filmed? (no English people in it)

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      • scribblingscribe says:

        That shameful episode should be shown to anyone who doubts the BBC’s single minded assault on our allies and our western values.

        Not a single panelist, nor member of the audience, begins their reply with their anguish over the 9/11 cowardly attacks. Nor does anyone find it in their hearts to send their condolences to those who lost loved ones and whose lives would never be the same.

        It is a relentless assault on the American people, and the West, that inevitably arises given the make up of the panel. Only a handful of people in the entire audience seem to understand why we were in Iraq at that time and they were howled down by the baying ignorant.

        Every time I see it I cringe and feel a need to write to the US and say the BBC does not represent this country, nor does it reflect the views of any individual with a soul.

        Those involved in producing that program may have smirked with delight during its production. I just hope that as they have now grown up, seen a little more of life, they share our shame that it should ever have been made.

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        • manchesterlad says:

          Those involved in producing that program may have smirked with delight during its production. I just hope that as they have now grown up, seen a little more of life, they share our shame that it should ever have been made.

          Let’s hope so, but I doubt they will have. Being ‘on the left’ is a faith-based belief system, so not susceptible to evidence or logic that contradicts their beliefs.

          With absolute-zero levels of self-awareness, those on the left just dismiss anyone with contrary views or evidence as ‘fascist’. It is beneath them to provide any reasoned counter argument – because they never have one.

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        • NCBBC says:

          Every time I see it I cringe and feel a need to write to the US and say the BBC does not represent this country, nor does it reflect the views of any individual with a soul.

          I did,on various blogs.

          The reality is, that it is the USA that is the guarantor of freedom. It is America that put its neck on the line to defend these creeps, and the West. It is America that has subsidised the defence of Western Europe for 50 years or more, to the tune of trillions. There would be no NHS without that subsidy. The subsidy is still there. And that is what is scaring Europe about TRrump.

          Modern Germany, and modern Europe, would not exist but for the USA. Were it not for the USA, the future we had was in the Gulag, with half the population dead.

          Stalin never liked leftists, as he knew from his own heart and mind, that they needed “putting” down.
          .

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          • NCBBC says:

            American discussing Europe’s contribution to Western defence

            http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2016/09/09/the_us_election_through_european_eyes_131746.html

            You cannot defend the nation if you don’t defend the borders. Thats the whole point of a defence force.

            If Europe will not defend its borders, it might as well stop wasting money on NATO etc.

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            • NCBBC says:

              PS

              The real existential threat to France, Germany and Europe, is not external but internal.

              When a civil war kicks off in France or Germany, as it did in Bosnia, why should American soldiers die, be beheaded or crucified “by you know who”, to save the EU from its deliberate folly.

                 17 likes

              • Maria Brewin says:

                They’ll be too busy keeping alienated working class Americans and Mexican immigrants apart.

                America has its own follies.

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              • Dave S says:

                When Trump is President then we can expect the EU countries to start squealing.
                I am certain he will reduce US commitment to Nato. Long term the USA has no further reason to invest so much in Nato. It is a Pacific country at heart and that is where it’s real interest’s now lie.
                Reality also dictates matters now and a Russia- US treaty is entirely possible.
                Europe has no long term or medium term future as a stable entity thanks to a collective insanity on the part of it’s ruling class. The Visegrad four are immune from this and in my opinion cannot stay in the EU as it is. We shall have to see.
                As ever we will be grateful for our island .
                By voting to leave the EU somehow the collective wisdom of our people has once again proved our salvation. May must deliver and soon or we must be prepared to ensure this happens

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                • NCBBC says:

                  DaveS
                  Very good and succinct analyis.

                  The Visigrad four are Slavs at heart. Once Russia changes, which it will, they will go where the heart is.

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      • NCBBC says:

        Disgusting creeps all of them. They should have been deported to Afghanistan.

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      • Heisenberg says:

        I remember this programme only too well. It was only two days after 9/11 and the death toll was then thought to be over 6,000. I recall the American ambassador being understandably in tears at the end of the ‘debate’, and for the first time I felt deeply ashamed of my own country.

        In hindsight though it’s as if we were being given a peek into the future … the shape of things to come. The BBC was of course biased in 2001 but generally nowhere near as much as it is now. But this Question Time was saying to us: ‘This is what we’ll be like circa 2016 so get used to it.’

        Good to know that others on here remember this though and feel as I do.

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        • NCBBC says:

          I watched that program with revulsion and disgust. Muslim smirking at the thought of thousands of American killed in peacetime. I felt ashamed, not knowing whether to switch over, or to continue increasing my BP.

          Disgusting perverts. I wish Trump would refer to this episode instead of Palis, or some loathsome Muslims in the US, handing out sweets after 9/11. The BBC program was much much worse then these. It would also be impossible to contradict.

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      • JoG says:

        I was abroad at the time and so missed this Question Time. Thanks for posting. I haven’t yet watched it in its entirety but so far agree with last comment from audience member. It’s very sobering viewing in light of events since.

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  25. Dover Sentry says:

    Sky News Poll On Grammar Schools:

    “”Most People Back Theresa May’s Grammar School Plans – Poll””

    http://news.sky.com/story/most-people-back-theresa-mays-grammar-school-plans-poll-10570433

    60% favour Grammar Schools.

    27% against.

    We await the BBC/Left poll.

       46 likes

    • chrisH says:

      Yet again the liberal left gather round the comprehensive bins and gather like dark clouds over the chances of any kid doing well from a poor background.
      Good politics from Theresa May-the Left truly painted as the paralympic party who despise kids who require a range of educations outside the orbit of the Left and its fetid unions.
      Witness PM earlier-pop tunes from the ages to show how grand things were under Shirley Williams,how shit they were when St Michael of Gove was degreasing the gulls in our flophouse schools.
      Who else-WHERE else-would you hear or find bloody SHIRLEY WILLIAMS no less.
      Lazy dying liberal bat of supreme irrelevance-like Warnock with a pudding bowl cut.
      Hateful hags…
      BUt-like Brexit-this votes divides us all into….” let`s get kids who want to know” as opposed to ” let`s medicalise and radicalise kids who bully the former, and then coin it in over the endless grievances, mitherings and misery lit we create”.
      I mean-without whole tranches of flops, needy druggies, crims and feckless ignorant lardarses-how else will the public sector get tomorrows case studies, research grants and co-dependent welfare junkies for the BBC News?
      No-May is right-time to put her tanks on Labours client state, and run the Left out of provision and presumptions…and if she does the NHS as well, it will get her in power for a generation,
      Labour think schools and hospitals are THEIRS to fuck…the BBC agrees-hope May will calmly cut their grapenuts off, and wipe them out.

         39 likes

      • Dover Sentry says:

        Great post, chrisH. I suspect you know your subject!

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      • NCBBC says:

        Woohoo ChrisH!

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        • chrisH says:

          It`s what I do NCBBC.
          After Brexit-if ever anyone thought there was even a vestige of reason or self-preservation in the Left-it`s gone.
          Unused to argument, unaware of what most of the nation thinks outside London or Edinburgh-and now the return of grammar schools!
          And all the likes of Greening have to do is ask Mishal, Snow or Davis what schools and universities that THEY went to.
          This will be delicious, if only the Tories really WANT to nail the lefties in the burning buildings…we might need UKIP for that!

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          • NCBBC says:

            ChrisH

            Witness PM earlier-pop tunes from the ages to show how grand things were under Shirley Williams,how shit they were when St Michael of Gove was degreasing the gulls in our flophouse schools.
            Who else-WHERE else-would you hear or find bloody SHIRLEY WILLIAMS no less.
            Lazy dying liberal bat of supreme irrelevance-like Warnock with a pudding bowl cut.

            You write like a pro. And not just any pro but original thought, original way of putting it, and even original language. You paint a picture,and the brush is a scalpel.

            Please create your blog. Dont have comments. Just write essays.

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    • Stella2 says:

      In the car yesterday listening to Radio 3. Informative voices and good music in the programmes. Then the “News” comes on. A few minutes only, but the bias was concentrated.

      The brief resume of the grammar school story began with the “news” that MPs from all sides of the house were mobilising against the move, and ended – tellingly and emphatically – with the word “disaster”. No alternative point of view. That was the beginning and the end of it, according to the BBC. A brilliant example of how to use neuro-linguistic programming to make a point.

      What I cannot understand (though I know many on this site have their theories – and I’m beginning to think they might be right, as there is no other logical explanation other than institutionalised laziness and self-preservation among BBC reporters) is why the short summary could not have kept to the facts alone. Or taken the angle that many of the proposed new grammars would be built in poorer areas, and found some good intentions in that. Or any positive at all.

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  26. DickMart says:

    Branwen Jeffreys’ article this morning http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-37315832 on grammar schools illustrates very well the day-in-day-out bias of the BBC in its everyday reporting. The article is polemical, rather than dispassionate, news reporting, putting forward a particular (naturally, left-wing) case without considering alternative views. And it is reinforced by emotive language:
    proposals have “triggered an avalanche of criticism”(!!)
    even supporters of change “taken aback”
    “many thought” the debate about grammar schools “irrelevant”
    “post-referendum politics”: “symbolic status of grammar schools as a chance to better yourself has trumped the expert consensus” [she means the Blob!]
    “unashamed pitch to the values of non-metropolitan England”
    Government hopes to “appease” opponents
    new law to be “pushed through” Parliament
    “risks” of allowing selection to be extended
    grammar schools “driving” extension of selection
    “disbelief and horror” that “some bright pupils might be cherry-picked”
    “many will look with interest” at new data, in the hope that it might discredit claims about grammar schools.

    I mention this not so much as an exceptionally bad piece of journalism (though it is bad) but because it exemplifies the fundamental, almost unconscious, bias of the BBC approach to news journalism.

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    • chrisH says:

      Channel 4 described Mays offer to give MPs a free vote on Heathrow expansion as her “passing the buck”.
      So that`s democracy as Cathy Newman sees it-and her leaking unauthorised private filmings on the tube( as did Newsnight last night, re Crispin Blunts Foreign Committee).
      Who gave the media THIS role?…I voted for the Tories-NOT for the BBC or Channel 4

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    • Stella2 says:

      DickMart – you’re right, it’s all in the choice of words. Like ending the quick summary of the story on the word “disaster” (see my point somewhere above).

      Unfortunately for the BBC, they just don’t understand that the words “unashamed pitch to the values of non-metropolitan England” now flag up a common sense opinion.

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      • Doublethinker says:

        Agree and non metropolitan England is sick to death of decades of unashamed pitches by all parties to the alien values of the metropolitan elite. We despise this elite and all they stand for and we want our country back not just from the E U but from them.

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      • NWStu says:

        Well said. Also, debate is irrelevant, there is no need for it, just implement away.
        There isn’t even a racist angle on it. If you have the nouse to pass the test then it is open to all. Except the Islamic/ist kids, probably, although they’d still whine about it anyway.

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    • SquirePraggerstope says:

      Yep, you’ve identified accurately all the BBC’s favourite bits of loaded phrasing there. In particular, the superbly vague ”many thought” being pressed into service, particularly in conjunction with ”irrelevant”, is always a good indicator that the BBC is severely rattled by a fundamental attack on one of another part of the bien pensant consensus.

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  27. 60022Mallard says:

    There was an excellent letter in the DT the other day.

    JC attended the Burston School Strike annual commemoration this year along with usual trade unionists and other lefty hangers on. Tony Benn attended more than once.

    The letter writer queried why they should support parents and teachers setting up a school with private finance in the face of oppressive establishment authority in the Victorian era but are so opposed to the same in the Elizabethan era i.e. free schools.

    I suspect it is because socialist governments have produced the oppressive establishment authority with their one size fits all education dogma!

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    • chrisH says:

      Bang On Mallard!
      The Left HATE anybody but themselves mindfucking the nations schoolkids.
      Teaching unions, NHS, police, social services..ALL depend on deviance and aimless empty rebellion for a pay cheque.
      All those yummy charities and perv showcases like Russell Brand require this fashionable drug laden anomie-and only state schools with state parrots and ciphers in their pay will”deliver” this crap.
      Providing the state with its mental health dependents and You and Yours Gripewater gripweed is what the teaching unions and council lops do well…
      Burston Strike School my hat-went there once, never learned a thing about how to strike…only the Left are allowed to set the parameters of “educational debate”.

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  28. Lobster says:

    This has absolutely nothing to do with BBC bias, but I thought it might raise a smile.

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    • chrisH says:

      Great stuff Lobster…best telly on tonight that!

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    • gb123 says:

      The cat has been watching Dimbleby on Question Time with a special guest appearance by Eddy Izzard!

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      • G.W.F. says:

        I better keep off this subject. I have recently made another career switch and am focusing on animal minds. There is so much crap about parts of the brain being responsible for this or that. But the vid show that it is the cat who is reacting, not parts of its brain. And yes, it is relevant to BBC bias, because their animal programmes are packed with pseudo scientific garbage

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  29. Dave S says:

    You just have to watch BBC TV 10pm to believe it. Just propaganda for the old teaching blob.
    Biased? No just a firm conviction that the BBC elite needs to keep the plebs in their place .
    Disgusting and it is time the BBc was bought to heel.
    It is not acceptable that the BBc should act as a political party .
    There are those who still believe it can be reformed. No it cannot it can only be broken up and sent into the oblivion of history.

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    • Dave S says:

      Update. Newsnight is a joke. Maitlis is predictable and to have the head of a very expensive Public school pontificating is patronising.
      I did not realise that our public schools are so ,shall we say, public spirited.

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      • chrisH says:

        The beauty of the Brexit vote DaveS is that “everything changed”.
        Theresa May would not be putting feelers out for grammar schools had we not voted as we did-and THIS is a tender touchstone every bit as shattering to “The Blob” as what we did on the 23rd June 2016.
        The Left only have the crims, pervs , the supine suckups-and of course Health, Education and all Public Provision like transport and bins.
        The raid into an education turf battle simply APPALLS the Left-because if Corbyn is your elected defence?..well God help you!
        The likes of Channel 4 and the BBC have long held stock footage of the evils of grammar schools…but like “The Mummy Returns” it`s grainy and out of date-makes the lefties in the media look VERY stupid when it`s all that they`ve got.
        So May`s done well-when you see the likes of Shirley Williams spluttering over her Complan about “educational expertise, and consensual bipartisan unity at risk”…well, you`ve got the enemy RIGHT in your sight”.
        Another UKIP policy adopted…well done Nigel again!
        Yes folks-grammar schools are the new Brexit-and we`ll win this one too.
        The Left will soon be reduced to the drugs dispensary at Charing Cross Sex Bureaux De Change within a few years…and the sadfux won`t be educated to complain about the dispensary under threat-because, being media poppets or comprehensive crims of Islam-they`ll not be able to read what the words mean anymore.

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        • Grimer says:

          “Charing Cross Sex Bureaux De Change”

          Do you live locally? There are some real shockers walking the streets near the hospital.

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  30. Luton Reject says:

    Just had the misfortune to watch a 2013 British film called Closed Circuit. The plot featured a suicide bombing in London that killed 120 people and the subsequent arrest and trial of the alleged Islamic mastermind. However, this being a product of the British film industry it was quickly established that the mastermind was an MI5 agent and the real blame lay with a corrupt Government, a particularly evil Attorney General and an out of control MI5 who went on to have a whale of a time murdering journalists and defence barristers willy-nilly. Basically it was a crude attempt to erode confidence in the British authorities and security services in the fight against Islamic extremism.

    What’s all this got to do with the BBC? Well early on John Humphrys playing himself interviewed the panto villain Attorney General in a radio studio. The BBC and Today were not named but it wasn’t much of a leap to conclude that this was the show being represented. I was going to ask what the hell Humphreys and the BBC were thinking adding authenticity to such a film but I think we all know the answer to that.

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    • The Lord says:

      Sounds excruciating. Some will consider it a documentary. They walk amongst us.

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    • RJ says:

      “an out of control MI5 who went on to have a whale of a time murdering journalists and defence barristers willy-nilly.”

      We can only dream.

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  31. taffman says:

    What’s Carwyn up to ?
    He is in the US and supposed to be ‘selling’ Wales.
    “Radical change needed to save UK, Carwyn Jones says”
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-37307099
    Well he is not listening to the people of Wales. We want Brexit !
    Perhaps its time to get rid of the over blown bureaucracy that we know as the Welsh ‘Government’ or Assembly and spend the money in employing much needed doctors and nurses because the National Health Service in Wales is in dire straits.
    Are there any Welshmen on this site that support this ?

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    • Number 7 says:

      Shwmae taffman – My first post seems to have been modded!

      Chwarae teg to your post.

      What is it about the clown you described (C.J.) that he does not understand?

      Most of your fellow countrymen, I know, do understand and want out. B…B…But the sainted windbag has decided to go to the U.S. (at our expense) to say we were wrong.

      He only has a job because 51% of a 25% turnout voted for devolution. Perhaps he would be better of sorting out the problems in Education & the NHS, which are both devolved powers, of his responsibility instead of swanning about, trying to deny the democratic right of his nation.

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    • The Lord says:

      Darn right. Typical of the money/energy wasting, jobs for the boys, totally corrupt institutions foisted on us during The 13yr Terror.

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    • scribblingscribe says:

      There are a few of we dragon breathers on here, Taffman

      I don’t think Carwyn, or indeed the Welsh labour party get it. Like the BBC, they think the Brexit vote was some sort of error made by stupid, ignorant people that will be put right by the wave of a magic wand by wonderful, clever people like him.

      I think Labour will be buried at the next assembly election and rubbishing the people of Wales views will be part of the reason. Sadly there are many other reasons for the Welsh Labour party’s demise and none of them include competence from any of the other welsh political parties.

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      • taffman says:

        “I think Labour will be buried at the next assembly election”. I certainly agree with that one , especially if UKIP can get their act together or Act Together?

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    • G says:

      Yes, taffman, not born Welsh simply now living in Wales and I agree wholeheartedly. Indeed, why Grammar Schools with no GP’s? Madness!

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  32. david01 says:

    As a licence feepayer and a UK taxpayer I switched on my radio in France this morning
    198LW had a Muslim man on prayer for today. I changed channels to 909MW where I normally listen to “wake up to money”. There was a a thick Scottish -accented gentleman enthusing(I think) about a forthcoming derby between two Glasgow football teams. The pips went and Radio 5 live enthused about a great day of sport ahead- a football derby between two Manchester teams(guaranteed to whet the appetite of this Leeds United supporter) and a full day of paralympic sports where apparently we have just won very many gold medals, not to mention the forthcoming boxing match between Biffer and Bosher, exclusive to radio five live.

    I switched off and listened to the owls hooting in the dark outside. I am beginning to understand the meaning of diversity, inclusivity and most of all, patience.

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    • Old Goat says:

      I live in France – have done for about ten years, now. I made the decision, last year, not to bother with the BBC, at all (or, indeed many of the others), any more.

      It was a wise decision.

      My news now comes from relatively honest, reliable, and believable, unbiased sources.

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  33. Sluff says:

    Unbelievable.
    At about 0745 on Toady R4 we have a book review.
    The author is interviewed by James Naughtie.

    She goes on to describe part of the inspiration for her novel was the 2011 Tottenham riots and the feeling of ‘togetherness and carnival’ . How nice for her.
    Then it is mentioned she is the daughter of Joe Slovo, the former head of the Communist Party in South Africa.

    Yep. Even in a benign item like a book review the bBBC Party left wing propoganda must be deployed at all times.

    On this one though it was worse than usual as the bias ia deliberate but more underhand and so all the more dangerous.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      I find Naughtie’s fawning both ridiculous and nauseating. He should have been eased out of mainstream News & Current Affairs at the BBC a long time ago. Tolerable as a Presenter of music programmes, he should be banished to Radio 3.

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    • Dave S says:

      Especially so as the riots were the catalyst for renewed and growing white flight from London. Not that the BBC elite gives a toss about that. More enrichment is what they want and the stupid old Londoners just get in the way.
      Just think they can have a Notting Hill carnival every month one day.

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    • chrisH says:

      Being positive though Snuff?
      In the old days, it would have been , say six levels of separation between the BBC stooge and his invited guest.
      By the time we`d have worked out Shamis` links to Tariq Ramadan, say-well there`d have been bookwork,”Who`s Who” a bit of Anthony Sampson-type detective work.
      And by the time we`d worked it out-the circus would have left town and we`d be shovelling up the shit for out Labour rose bush in its wake.
      But now-from Slovo to Naughtie via a book(and the lazy tarts don`t even change to a married name to confuse us all-or is that all she has to get a book deal?). Two levels of idiocracy, tops!
      In short Snuff-it`s so easy, shameless and visible-because the gene pool is shrivelling to an oil slick, and there`s nowhere else to go to get a new viewpoint.
      Dead in the water…currently dying , floundering and mud spatters in what remains of the puddle.
      Enjoy the gasps for oxygen, their lunges for the young-only the crims and deviants will sleep with them now.let alone talk to them.
      Pop Will Eat Itself-the Beeb are now sucking off their own bones.

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    • Colboysigma says:

      The “story” about Molenbeek on Tuesday or Wednesday R4 was even better… (Edward Stourton?) Such a beautiful vibrant place apparently (well according to the Ed and the BBC).
      However my friend lives in Brussels and knows it well. He said anyone would do well to follow the same advice China Airlines gave for London. Stay away!

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  34. Lock13 says:

    Dan Snow introducing the sport on BBC Breakfast ‘… Hello Breakfast Comrades ..’ sums it up nicely

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  35. Thoughtful says:

    One of the areas Britain really need to improve on is our exports, so when Liam Fox a Tory minister gives a speech which criticises ‘some’ business leaders for preferring to spend a Friday afternoon on the golf course rather than chasing overseas orders.

    Of course Fox was heavily involved in the Brexit campaign, and the BBC makes no bones about this. The people the BBC bring on to talk about this are both very angry about Brexit and blaming him personally for the Brexit.

    An example of total left wing pro remain bias.

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    • Grimer says:

      If Labour had stuck the boot into ‘fat cat’ bosses for spending too much time on the golf course, what would the tone of the article have been?

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  36. Up2snuff says:

    The TOADY crew seem to be a little conflicted this morning. Liam Fox has apparently ‘attacked’ corporate bosses. Cheers from the Left! “But how can we use that to attack Treeza if we ‘like’ it?” “OK, we’ll try and use this to cause division between the Three Brexiteers and between them, their Party and all those corporate chiefs who fund the Nasty Party.” Mishal is lined up as she has a good line in sneery voices for continual references during the programme.

    John Humphrys, fresh from showing a great pairs of gums to his old sparring partner David Blunkett, is particularly and spectacularly toothless when faced with an apopletic Richard Read (Who?), turning on the outrage amplifier and winding the dial to eleven. John wasn’t sharp enough to ask if him if he was a Labour supporter and a Bremainer, just to get the interests declared for the benefit of listeners.

    No-one at the BBC, especially on the TOADY programme, has a memory good enough to remember David Cameron AND George Osborne saying exactly the same thing as Fox in 2010, 2011 and 2012. They went off on international trips doing some selling for UK PLC. With some success, I seem to recall. Which is possibly why the BBC TOADY Producers and Editors will not want to remember that.

    Of course the BBC will not remember how in their champagne-addled Blairy Glairy Glory Years, the CBI Chief would be on Radio 4 complaining on behalf of his members that the £ was too high and it was driving away potential customers and making selling abroad ‘impossible’. No one at the BBC would know to – or if they did – bother to challenge that statement with the fact that Switzerland, Germany (pre-Euro), the United States, among others managed to export more abroad even with appreciating currencies. Nor did they challenge the same CBI chief when he was back on the radio a few months later complaining that the low £ was making life difficult for CBI members needing to import raw materials for their businesses.

    The dumbing down of BBC News. How far the mighty have fallen!

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  37. AsISeeIt says:

    Wot, no Brexit story?

    BBC Breakfast at 8am where head line news item is the Paralympics – (nothing to do with Oscar Pistorius)

    Really there’s no excuse for this – it’s not the BBC but Channel 4 which has the broadcast rights. Pure agenda programming for the BBC to head line this minority interest item as the top news story.

    Meanwhile BBC Newswatch – or should that show be retitled The Unrepentant

    Samira Ahmed highlights several BBC News failings:
    BBC slow off the mark with the Keith Vaz story
    Odd priority given at the top of the 10 o’clock BBC1 news to the Chicago gangbangers report
    BBC obsession with Brexit non-stories

    Of course the BBC is pretty comfortable that they got it all about right.

    The only point of interest was the assured self-importance of their female news manager interviewed by Ms Ahmed as she explained the BBC Brexit coverage. Apparently this is a hugely important issue and the BBC is most keen to explore it in all its complexity and ‘explain to people how it will affect their lives’ – do we reckon that will be a fair assessment?

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    • Lock13 says:

      ‘Slow of the mark with the Keith Vaz story’ we had to check with our lawyers. Poor old Cliff gets a sniff of an altar boy and they have a helicopter hovering above his house in 10 seconds.

         46 likes

    • Dave S says:

      Bought and paid for as the old saying has it. The question is who bought the BBC and who paid for it?

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  38. EnglandExpects says:

    As can be seen from above comments, the Today programme reached an all time low in its standards of impartiality this morning. Blunkett given 10 minutes to rail against grammars, some idiot called Richard Reid ( not the shoe bomber presumably ) railing against Liam Fox in a very personal way about tbe Ministers very sensible comments about exporting . Finally a piece on Scottish police wearing Muslim veils. I switched off at that point . Why do we have no choice but to pay the BBC to produce this drivel?

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    • NISA says:

      Yes Richard Reed is the boss of Innocent Smoothies & one of the head honchos of a Remainer campaign group. He really should cut back on consuming his own Kool Aid as he came over as totally demented over Fox & the referendum result. Hope the Sugar Tax doesn’t cause his hipster customers to switch to Coke Zero.

         28 likes

      • Guest Who says:

        IIRC Innocent was bought by Coke, and he and his fellow multimillionaires did OK. Ironically.

           13 likes

        • NISA says:

          Yes I spotted that after making my comment. I think irony also applies to Innocent buyers (Sorry for outrageous stereotyping) who consider all Americans fat & ignorant & would be dismayed to find they were funding Coca Cola.

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    • Thoughtful says:

      I have to say that while it is possible to criticise white people, it is absolutely impossible to criticise Muslims without some non Muslim social justice Fascist screaming & shouting their bile at the top of their voice.

      Far too many people especially in the public sector are afraid of being called the meaningless names that Political Correctness has invented.

      And so they go as far as they think they can – reporting the issue, and then leaving it to others to say what they feel they cannot. Radio 4 interviewed someone who was very guarded about the issue with Birmingham Police and the insane Burka idea, again brought about by political correctness, it’s clear that no one thinks it is a good idea, but the spectre of being called a meaningless name is forcing them to follow a path which is clearly mad.

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    • chrisH says:

      It`s the weekend-the BBC top brass and editors like to leave for the Cotswolds, Chilterns with assorted rent boys and drug dealers a la Vaz to “refresh themselves”.
      So the pondlife left are latte carrying arse bandits and turkey basters who`ve only come out of Fabric smelling of golden showers or antiseptics afer the 3am tattoo.
      All the linen suits do is leave a Guardian, Radio Times and a highlighter pen.
      So who else to ask but a smoothie bloke…finally a businessman that the Beeb can identify with-for Innocent are a druggie brand they like and know.
      Of course Fox is right-had he confined it to the EU troughers of BOTH private and public sectors( NHS quacks, quango chiefs, academics and media -as well as the organics, hippy energy wallahs like Reed)-then he`d have hit a wider target.
      No EU-bloody hell, might have to actually find veins of our OWN to drain now for leeching off the poor and the working!
      So-as I refuse to get a coffee at any place where the Guardian is offered as a free read-I will now boycott any place that sells Innocent squashy fruity mush…starting with the supermarkets..if that means I go to Spar by our motorway for the big shop, then so be it!
      I shall do this-for Fox sake!

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  39. Thoughtful says:

    I would encourage readers to watch this film which shows just what happens when Socialism is allowed to run its course.

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  40. Tothepoint says:

    Absolutely disgraceful piece of deceitful and bile inducing piece of propaganda/lies on the Islamic Al Beeb webshite this morning.

    “Muslims begin annual Hajj pilgrimage” is the headline, but why the f#(k would we want to know about that!!! This isn’t news my friends, this is the Islamic Al Beeb going into full on brainwashing!!

    Just read some of the utter bullshit, misreporting, denying, and lies the Al Beeb use in this sermon..

    “They are making the same journey as the Prophet Muhammad did about 1,400 years ago”….firstly, he ain’t no prophet of mine!! If he is a prophet then Christianity and Judaism is not required and Islam IS the final word of God, and Islamic fucking state are justified in what they are doing!! … Are the traitorous bastards at Al Beeb now saying that the religions that built this country and the West are void??? Scumbags!!!
    Secondly, isn’t it convenient for this act of Muhammad to be a special thing, yet mass rapes, beheadings, wars, genocides and marrying 6 year old girls isn’t… How does that work Al Beeb??

    Next… Some complete lie about “this pilgrimage is for everyone to be seen as equal in the eyes of Allah, when we already know that even Muslim women are worthless in Muhammads teachings, never mind what Islam teaches about the infidels!!

    And the biggest piece of deceitful, conniving, misreporting and childish statement I have ever read in my life!…..

    “Iran is not sending any pilgrims this year, after it and Saudi Arabia failed to reach agreement over Hajj arrangements amid a diplomatic row.
    Iran believes the Saudis are not doing enough to secure the safety of the pilgrims, while the Saudis accuse Iran of making unreasonable demands.
    The two countries do not have diplomatic relations and are at loggerheads over a series of regional issues including the conflicts in Yemen and Syria”….
    …..so it’s nothing to do with the fact that Sunni Islam wants to wipe Shia Islam from the face of this earth? It’s all to do with democracy people!! You couldn’t make this up! You have surpassed yourselves with this one Al Beeb!

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    • chrisH says:

      And our BBC gal (clearly not allowed into Mecca to see for herself-and even if she had been , she`d be unable to see thanks to the full mesh veil)said this.
      “The Saudis hope to avoid last years stampede that is “THOUGHT TO HAVE KILLED ABOUT TWO THOUSAND PEOPLE”.
      WTF?
      You mean-one year on-and no Saudi has bothered their fat arse to actually COUNT how many died least year…even after that litany of similar death stomps around their building sites and Square Haemorrhoid?
      Yet the BBC report this…no scandal, no snooping for compo or a grief piece for Jenni Murray or Lord Laming on Radio 4?
      Contrast with the fuss over the poor four lads in Didcot who died at the power station a few months back?
      Fuck the BBC-and stuff Saudi-that crane collapsed on them last Sept 11th…and I`m unsure if the BBCs “Justice for the Mecca 2000” campaign even includes THEM or not.
      Bloody Islam.

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      • G.W.F. says:

        A radical solution to the problem of radical Islamism is to confiscate the passports of those leaving the countries they hate so much when leaving for the Haji romp.

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    • Thoughtful says:

      It wouldn’t surprise me to find that Sunni oil money is finding its way into the pockets of our state broadcaster as well.

      You have to hand it to the Saudis and their allies, for doing a sterling job of spreading their message of hate to such an extent that even the Archbishop of Canterbury and the Pope are now big fans of Islam, and presumably thinking of converting themselves too !

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      • G.W.F. says:

        Both these men are politicians first, religious second or even lower.

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      • chrisH says:

        If we can find enough foreskin to separate from their willies, and avoid the paunchy shadows…then we could keep those and let the rest of their bodies go to Mecca.
        “This way up” and a dotted line around the neck, for the less brainy boys of Islam-in, of course the fifty eight versions of Arabic script by way of instructions.
        Either foreskin-with a nod to a miniature mitre or purple helmet, placed carefully-would speak better for their faiths that do they…

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    • Lobster says:

      “They are making the same journey as the Prophet Muhammad did about 1,400 years ago” Did he go in a Boeing 747 then?

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      • Maria Brewin says:

        Some Afrocentrists would say “yes”.

        Who are we to argue?

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      • chrisH says:

        Can`t imagine the pyramids would have been standing still if they HAD flown them…
        They seem to have an issue with flying planes…but are good at taking them over once someone else has done all the clever bits for them…
        Which, if you come to think of it, is quite the metaphor for their hijacking of every damned culture that lets them leech…

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    • engineerdownunder says:

      10.30 am on R4 today was “The Muhammadan Bean: The Secret History of Islam and Coffee”. Nope it’s not a joke, it really was on.

      I used to think that Al-Beeb was merely an apologist for Islam. But becoming clearer that Al-Beeb really has been infiltrated and now pushes Islam.

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      • chrisH says:

        Which surely makes a Burka a “Muhammadan Bean Bag”!
        The supermarket robot areas are correct-“stay away from the Bagging Area”…or is it “unauthorised semtex and little boy?”
        One for Miles Jupp next week eh?

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    • Colboysigma says:

      Very proud to tell you that my 16 yr old daughter said pretty much the same thing to me not 10 minutes ago! It’s reassuring that the millennials aren’t all uninformed idiots.

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  41. Sluff says:

    At the risk of appearing unpatriotic, Spare a thought for the Chinese girl who finished fourth in the Paralympic swimming 50m butterfly. It was won by a British swimmer, Ellie Robinson but she did have the benefit of two arms. The chinese swimmer had no arms.

    But no one commented.
    The left and the bBBC are never slow to shout about inequality. But the swimming example to me provides a great example of that Animal Farm observation that some animals are more equal than others. Their equality is only that which suits their totaltarian, statist, narrative.

       24 likes

    • Lock13 says:

      Sluff – ‘The chinese swimmer had no arms’ in the butterfly ? lol -I’ll be laughing at that one all day

         4 likes

      • NWStu says:

        ‘Swimmers’ has more than one meaning, certainly up here. Strange images are imagined.

           2 likes

      • chrisH says:

        Tremendous achievement from the Chinese kid.
        Had to see it myself to check it was not a joke-and Sluff`s quite right.
        Can`t be fair that she`s at such a disadvantage against Ellie with her two arms….nearly a metre advantage as they reach for the wall at the end at least!
        Had our British competitor been armless-the BBC would have said SOMETHING about how unfair this is.
        Not that I give a stuff about the Olympics-but this isn`t fair is it?

           10 likes

  42. KafirHarbi says:

    Wet morning watching the Goodwood Revival live on Facebook and in reflective mood. Attended the Revival yesterday – the absolute antidote to all the threats to our way of life that this site is so good at identifying. Funnily enough 130,000 participants, no arrests, no reported crimes, no stabbings, in fact no police – except those in period dress – and presumably not actually policemen. I walked past probably hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of unattended racing equipment in the paddocks. I’m certain not so much as a spanner was pinched).

    I recently read Tommy Robinson’s book ‘Enemy of the state’. As those who have studied Tommy’s case know, he himself presents himself as no angel, but it’s difficult to look hard at him and call him a racist – or even ‘far right’. He describes the motivation of the EDL in the early days as purely to voice protest at the Islamification of his home town – Luton. The people the EDL attracted were as he described them, largely working class labour voters with little interest in politics. However he and the EDL are almost universally described as ‘far right wing’.

    So it has been occurring to me that something odd is taking place in British politics. I have for a while thought that Britain is not so much divided into left and right as even we at BBBC still refer to, but perhaps more accurately into the ‘taker and the makers’. Who are the makers? Well the rump of small business owners, sole traders and others grafting away in the private sector. And the takers? Largely the bloated public sector that has grown and grown to now represent 50% of our economy.

    This private/public sector equation has changed out of recognition in my lifetime. Graduating in the 80s, my cohort had a simple perspective as we thought about our careers. First choice was a well paid job with a blue chip company, second was whatever else you might get in commerce or law. If you were likely to get a third class degree (plenty did then) you were destined for a job in the public sector, relatively low in prestige and pay.

    So what do things look like today? Well the ‘takers’ almost out-number the makers who pay for them. Average pay in the public sector is higher than in the private sector. Hundreds of BBC managers paid more than the prime minister. Likewise in the NHS. Cushy numbers running charities on six figure salaries, quangos, think tanks – it’s endless. And to pay respect to the old left-right paradigm, all of the ‘takers’ are peddling a left wing agenda.

    Curious too how the rise of the ‘takers’ has coincided with the near collapse of the actual political left – clearly they have never been in such disarray. Maybe though they haven’t been so daft after all. While the traditional right has been busy winning at conventional politics ‘running’ the country from parliament, being entrepreneurial and starting and running businesses, the left has quietly stolen the show. They have lined their pockets, rewarding themselves hugely while doing undemanding jobs, dominating political opinion through BBC and other propaganda channels, and stifled all real debate through the iron rule of political correctness. Perhaps the makers need to wake up and smell the coffee and show a bit of the low cunning of the takers.

       50 likes

    • Maria Brewin says:

      “130,000 participants, no arrests, no reported crimes, no stabbings, in fact no police”

      And, as discussed following the Notting Hill Carnival, why the difference?

      As I said, “look at the people”. Different set of people, different standard of behaviour.

      Some people, including one or two here, are not prepared to face up to that reality. Defenders of the NHC like to pretend that a high crime rate must be expected within any large gathering of people. Simply not true.

         31 likes

    • engineerdownunder says:

      Let’s hope the new Culture secretary sticks to her guns and forces publication of all the salaries and names of Beeb employees earning more than 150k. That’s going to kick-off a s**t storm!

      Actually I’d like all BBC salaries published – we pay them don’t we?

         34 likes

  43. Ricks Assessment says:

    On my PC I have some very good internet security software covering all aspects of potential attack / intrusion & it has never detected any threat in all the years I’ve had it.
    I went onto BBC iPlayer yesterday for the first time since the licensing law change and duly clicked on “Yes I have a license” – now how they know if I have or not will require some investigation on their part otherwise why bother with the question in the first place?. Well I’ll fuck my old boots! would you believe it, for the first time ever my security software lights up like Leicester-bastard-square warning of a Trojan thingamajig and instantly quarantining it. Click on iPlayer – get Trojan….coincidence?

       31 likes

    • Roland Deschain says:

      Never detected any threat? Are you sure it’s very good software?

         4 likes

      • Maria Brewin says:

        I’m hoping for a TV with a “TV Firewall” or filter system that can be set up to filter out people and voices that we dislike. Should be possible as facial recognition is quite reliable these days. Should avoid the need to remove potential missiles from our TV viewing area.

        It would require a lot of memory as our list would be quite long.

        One of my pet hates, Natasha Devon, nearly cost us our Samsung last week.

        Are you listening LG, Samsung, Sony, Panasonic?

           8 likes

        • Anti Auntie says:

          Careful. David Vance’s viewing figures would go down to himself and – no, well that’s pretty much it.

          And you’d make him cry because he’d have to realise that banning dissenting voices to protect his little cabal of brain-dead racists doesn’t make him popular, just a tiny little fish in a minuscul pond full of developmentally stunted idiota who whine online because you’re incapable of leading productive lives in the real word and desperately want to blame everyone non-white for your own miserable failures.

             3 likes

          • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

            Is there a B-side?

               16 likes

          • Dave S says:

            What is the point of your diatribe? Managing to get the word – racist- in perhaps.
            As to productive lives you have no idea what any of us have done or are doing. A fairly safe bet is that very few are suckers on the state’s teat or in any way involved in the unreal world of the snowflakes of all ages know n as the liberal middle classes.
            The BBC is crap and worthless . An extreme statement but just as valid as yours.

               17 likes

            • Anti Auntie says:

              Well, considering how many of you post all day every day, it’s a safe bet that any jobs you claim to be holding down don’t get your full attention. Maybe you ought to consider that the next time you or one of your racist cronies suggests that anyone with a non-white sounding name must have got their job through affirmative action: maybe they just are not as shit as you?

              Still, I’m sure as you’re both stupid and racist, Vance won’t chuck you off this site. He likes his diminishing band of whining bigots like he likes his sliced bread: thick and white.

                 2 likes

              • Richard Pinder says:

                Well that insult is an assumption, but as with CO2 warming, can be proven not to be true:

                (1) I am a pensioner, you must be employed as a troll. After retiring, I find some time to post, after looking at the weather forecast, my emails, research and buying things from eBay, etc.

                (2) I think most people on this site would agree with you that people at the BBC with non-white sounding names would be superior to the left-wing middle-class white people employed by the BBC. But only if they are right-wing, or went to a Grammar School, and therefore the BBC had to employ them on merit rather than use its patronising affirmative action policy for left-wing non-Grammar School pupils of colour.

                (3) I have an IQ of 164, which is amongst the highest in Mensa. I joined this site after finding out that I had higher qualifications than anyone advising the BBC on Climate Science. Subsequently, I have found that I am much better qualified than Lord Hall, or any members of the BBC Trust, as regards Physics, Mathematics and a PhD in Astronomy.

                (4) As a UKIP supporter, I like my bread loaf, medium and white, and wrapped up in a Union Jack.

                   26 likes

              • taffman says:

                Anti Auntie
                Some posters may have retired, some may be in employment where they have free access to the internet any time without redress.
                So please tell us all, what point are you raising that’s anti Al Beeb bias? If indeed you do have any ?

                   9 likes

              • NWStu says:

                Racist, stupid, racist, bigot. Yawn, done to death and so overused that it means virtually nothing anymore.
                You are clearly a person who is intolerant of people with differing opinions. Name calling belongs in, and should remain in,the playground.

                   14 likes

          • Lock13 says:

            I got 10 ‘O’ Levels and 3 ‘A’ Levels in the 80’s when they were real exams and I out earn you by factors Anti-Auntie. The BBC pays people 200k for being poofs. I used to live near that knob Graham Norton in Wapping used to meet him walking his dogs what a pretentious prick.

               16 likes

            • Anti Auntie says:

              Seeing as you don’t know what I earn, I assume that’s another of your “lies I made up because I’m too lazy to form a coherent argument”. It’s a long list.

              Hopefully Norton managed to avoid you, much as I assume anyone who suffers being in your presence must attempt to. It’s not Graham Norton’s fault you’re a shouty little twat, after all.

                 2 likes

              • Lock13 says:

                You work for the BBC trying to put your finger in the dam – that doesn’t pay much does it me old mate. The rest of us have proper jobs . It is amusing to read your juvenile diatribe

                   14 likes

            • Omega says:

              Lock13,

              I got 10 ‘O’ Levels and 3 ‘A’ Levels…

              Please tell me you didn’t just list your exam results from 30 years ago in an attempt to prove your not stupid.

              Tragic.

                 1 likes

              • taffman says:

                Omega
                So prey tell us why your not stupid and give us some examples of Al Beeb Bias or defend the biased broadcaster.
                Thanks.

                   3 likes

                • taffman says:

                  …….zzz

                     3 likes

                • Omega says:

                  taffman,

                  So prey tell us why your not stupid…

                  Hmm, that’s a tricky one. Possibly because I don’t use the word “simples”; which seems to be a pretty good indicator of stupid on this site at least.

                  [hugs]

                     2 likes

                  • taffman says:

                    Omega
                    It must have been tricky, because you took your time to answer that one eh. Did you have to run over to get that answer from your supervisor ?
                    Still no defence or bias about Al Beeb from you though ?
                    Therefore you should loose your privilege to posting on this site.
                    QED

                       8 likes

                    • Omega says:

                      taffman,

                      Did you have to run over to get that answer from your supervisor ?

                      Yes that’s right, taffman. There’s a whole team of about twenty people here at Broadcasting House pouring over your every word, discussing strategies, and drawing flow charts on a glass wall with crayon.

                      All leave has been cancelled since you started posting on B-BBC. Divorces are common, and several colleagues have committed suicide. But if we can just make it through the next few difficult months I think we will be okay.

                         2 likes

                • Guest Who says:

                  “..tell us why your not stupid”

                  Saw what you did there.

                  Tricky, indeed.

                     5 likes

                  • Number 6 says:

                    I see it’s the return of the on duty bbc left wing retard

                    Got his stupidity batteries fully recharged and a bagful of coke to keep him on point in the great race to bullshit city

                       7 likes

                  • Number 6 says:

                    ‘Divorces are common, and several colleagues have committed suicide’

                    They wont have to worry about committing suicide

                    Once the uk has been fully enriched by the RoP,a lot of them will be leaving the building via the roof exit

                       5 likes

          • chrisH says:

            I`m guessing that your teaching assistant is out on a fag break here AA.
            We may well need grammar schools-but maybe you could start with punctuation and spelling ones first.
            Your second sentence puts you in the Duntz Sexshun…but well done on trying for “miniscule” nonetheless.
            Did you actually mean “miniskirt” or “meniscus” ?

               17 likes

            • Anti Auntie says:

              Yes I misspelt minuscule. So did you, you patronising, condescending idiot.

              Well done though. It takes a lot to come across as the most stupid of Vance’s little playgroup, so bless you for trying to beat the record.

                 3 likes

              • chrisH says:

                Look my gender confusing chum.
                You`ve got plenty to correct, was only hoping to “get alongside you”-and not set you up to fail at everything you were attempting.
                Punctuation next eh?…that second sentence deserves a bit of chequing eh?..feel I should get the red pen out, but it might remind you of blood, and make you sad.
                Next!
                As to the grown ups here.
                We call this “encounter learning” or “confrontational education”.
                WE may all think he`s failing-but no.
                It`s called “deferring his success”!

                   17 likes

          • G.W.F. says:

            AA,
            Welcome back Jerrod aka Zero Have you been anywhere interesting?

               11 likes

          • Maria Brewin says:

            In actual fact I’ve led a very productive life, now retired in the Yorkshire Dales with considerable financial security.

            Thanks for the words of concern, but not really necessary. Not sure why you assume I’m white though. I’ve never mentioned my ethnicity. You might be surprised although I have dropped vague hints from time to time.

            And BTW, I’m not exactly crushed by being called a racist. In the mouth of a fool like you, it’s very reassuring.

            I also have the courage to use my real name.

               10 likes

            • Rob in Cheshire says:

              The previous “Anti Auntie” (as if) was not quite as vile as this one. Must have been a shift change.

              Hands up anyone who has been crushed by his witty banter?

                 5 likes

            • Omega says:

              Maria Brewin,

              …now retired in the Yorkshire Dales with considerable financial security.

                 1 likes

              • taffman says:

                Omeg
                No bias or support for Al Beeb coming from you, therefore you are time wasting, immature troll .
                QED

                   4 likes

                • Omega says:

                  taffman,

                  you are time wasting, immature troll

                  Coming from you, taffman, that’s hilarious:

                  taffman March 26, 2016 at 1:29 am
                  “Wronged – I waste their time.

                  [hugs]

                     1 likes

              • Rob in Cheshire says:

                Omega:

                You are a funny guy. Not as funny as syphilis, but funny in your own special way.

                   3 likes

        • Old Goat says:

          Not necessary. Just turn the fuckin’ thing orf.

             5 likes

        • Omega says:

          Maria Brewin,

          I’m hoping for a TV with a “TV Firewall” or filter system that can be set up to filter out people and voices that we dislike

          You can get them on Amazon. Here’s the one David Vance uses:
          https://goo.gl/IdSw4v

             1 likes

      • Some_People_are_Saying... says:

        Oh yes, I got it free from the BBC ‘Click’ show website It’s called “Auntie-Viral Assimilation Left-Ware”. Features:-
        # Auto Word Correction – e.g. Terrorist neck slasher becomes Jilted Lover; Suicide Bomber becomes Disgruntled Cafe Employee; Rotherham becomes that nice little northern town where nothing ever happens.
        # Ad-Blocker – Blocks any Ad’s not featuring the cute little ‘girl of colour’ with the frizzy hair.(so that’s not many then)
        # Content Filter – set to high = receive only the Guardian & BBC Websites.
        – Set to Low = We will monitor your usage & report you for engaging in activity the BBC deem as (delete as necessary) Homophobic, Transphobic, Islamophobic, Muslimophobic, Immigrantophobic, Swarthybastardwithkalashnikovophobic, BBCophobic, Paralympicophobic, Eastendersophobic, HuwEdwardsophobic…etc etc.
        # LGBT Setting (welded on) – Be protected from any content that features white male & females engaging in Heterosexual(hate word) shenanigans.
        # Hacker Protection – Free copy of the Koran to learn: might save you getting your head hacked off.
        # Hate word Censor – Will auto-star hate words such as M*n, Th****er, J**ish, Tr**p, Is**el, Je***y Cl****on, N***L Fa**ge, En**and, Ch***tian, S* Ge***es d*y etc etc.

        So yes, I feel protected from the real world.

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  44. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC Online News:

    “”The street that voted for Brexit: What happens next?””

    “”It’s a long street that’s mainly built up of terraced houses whose front windows are dressed with net curtains or newspaper and whose front doors open straight on to the road””

    “”A small boy half-heartedly kicks a deflated plastic ball in and out of the parked cars and a dog, home alone in one of the terraced houses, repeatedly yaps his indignation””

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37306646

    A portrayal that depicts Brexit voters as losers.
    Why not one of the many affluent streets that voted Brexit?
    But that wouldn’t suit the BBC’s biased anti Brexit stance.

    Get over it BBC. You backed the wrong team and lost. Just as in the General Election.

       37 likes

    • chrisH says:

      Well done you for writing out that second line from Emma Jane Ketchup…probably the worst line of doggerel I`ve seen today, except for poor AngryAnti only a few red doors away up north from this post!
      Poor preppy Norland Numptys obviously been at Vaz` botty talc-for the likes of Orwell and Priestley, Wordsworth and John Cooper Clark could only DREAM of writing about flat balls and indignant doggy yakkas!
      We`ve GOT to get her back to Thornaby to read this to them all for the Christmas Pageant…with weeping yule lights screaming a thousand tears of warfarin”
      Doggerel Banker!

         9 likes

    • Sluff says:

      I was originally raised in one of those terraced houses that open onto the pavement.
      In fact some of my family members two generations back lived on the same street for 50 years.
      Naturally, in 1919 these good people, all white anglo saxon by the way, put out the union jack bunting and held a street party to celebrate the end of the Great War. I have a photograph to prove all of the above.
      In 1944 the army guy three doors down went back after his leave. He never came back.

      So when the disgusting biased BBC champagne socialists start to lecture us and try and demean us for voting Leave, you’ll forgive me if I consider them to be excrement of the lowest order.

         31 likes

    • taffman says:

      Dover Sentry
      “You backed the wrong team and lost. Just as in the General Election.”
      They were playing for the wrong bloody team!

         5 likes

  45. Dave S says:

    The BBc has not got the guts to come to a shire market town and ask them what they think. In my town the vote was overwhelmingly out and so much so that our MP has seen the light and had a thought for his future.

       27 likes

  46. chrisH says:

    Note in a 2003 Morning Star article-Jeremy Corbyn called for an “annual leadership ballot”.
    Looks like he`ll be getting his wish from now on…he and his twenty blow up dolls should make for a fine shadow puppet show.
    Did he say that the Labour Party Membershit numbers have gone up?
    His biggest failing?-thick as fuk.
    Been in Parliament since 1983…learned absolutely nothing…poor sod can`t even sit on a train seat without a few ropey geezerbirds around him.

       20 likes

    • Lock13 says:

      lol like it Chris . Keep your wits about you mate we are under attack from half-wits

         6 likes

      • Guest Who says:

        Looking at recent posts, the weekend station assault tea… er… lone rambler seems a fraction of even that.

           7 likes

    • NWStu says:

      If they were to have yearly leadership elections they would surely never find time to do anything useful…….

         3 likes

  47. Jason Twig says:

    The BBC “Muslims begin annual Hajj pilgrimage” website report:

    I’m not only not interested in this, I’m anti-interested. I actively do not want to know anything more about this ideology. I can’t remember who originally said it, but I am also “all Islamed-out”.
    I had a decent education but hadn’t considered Islam to be any part of my history or culture. Asian people in the UK had their religions and cultures and were very welcomed to follow them. Religions seemed to get along perfectly ok in the background. Islam was hardly mentioned mainstream before The Satanic Verses.
    Now it’s in our faces everywhere. Because of that, I’ve been forced to learn a lot about it and what I’ve learned makes me fearful for the future.
    It feels like the BBC and the rest of the wannabe beeboids have been tasked with the job of preparing us, getting us ready to accept a gradual, planned cultural shift. The endless drip-drip coverage of Islam has the distinct whiff of indoctrination, brainwashing, acclimatising us for the inevitable change.
    All this is becoming increasingly transparent. I know when I’m being fattened up and Islam-ready.
    Beeboids must know people are waking up so their task is getting ever more obvious with this desperate blanket PR campaign. The question is will enough of the sheeple wake up in time to make a difference?
    We did with Brexit, but a slow cultural change is a much more slippery eel, especially with the msm and much of the establishment acting as a fifth column.

       52 likes

    • Lock13 says:

      Jason – everyone is aware now. I sit in a town 30 miles North of poof central. I travel with the goats and the people with tea-towels on their heads every day as I work in London. We are a fag paper away from a revolution . Theresa May better think long and hard.

         27 likes

      • NWStu says:

        I sincerely hope that you are right. It may take a revolt bigger than the referendum for anybody to actually sit up and take notice.
        Shame that we have been disarmed and emasculated by the powers.
        Now where did I put that pitchfork and floppy brimmed hat? They’ll have to do.

           12 likes

      • Maria Brewin says:

        “I sit in a town 30 miles North of poof central”

        Pathetic.

        Sometimes I fully understand why David Preiser left.

           6 likes

        • Roland Deschain says:

          It was unnecessary, I agree. But if meeting a comment you’d prefer hadn’t been said is viewed as a reason for leaving, it may be better to avoid all internet chat sites. Or a less drastic solution might be to explain to the person concerned why you think the comment is unacceptable.

             9 likes

        • Lock13 says:

          MB when was the last time you went to London? I go there everyday I have to sit on a tube at 6.30 a.m. in the morning with two men kissing in front of me. I stand there surrounded by Eastern Europeans who have not washed for days the BO is rancid – I get to work and the smell is all over me. You can’t move for people with tea-towels on their heads , little post boxes toddling all over the place. If you are so precious then don’t read my posts.

             10 likes

    • Dave S says:

      Don’t worry. The Normans tried it on for centuries and the bastards never really crushed us. Beeboids are pussies in comparison.

         10 likes

  48. Guest Who says:

    BBC Facebook seems to have settled on being a Hajj travel service, but this post tucked in amongst all the vital news about this event (including a note that the celebrations will not be about the other 9/11 thing… just a bad coincidence) seemed well timed:

    Newsbeat

    Joni lost his father to suicide when he was seven-years-old…

    How Mr Gay England is fighting suicide in the LGBT community – BBC Three
    Check out this content on BBC Three.
    BBC.CO.UK

       5 likes

  49. Lock13 says:

    Is it just me or is the U.K. team in the Paralympics all able bodied ? Swimmers with two arms narrowly beating swimmers with no arms. Narrowly beating people in the running competition who are blind and limbless

       14 likes