Start the Week Open Thread

Black is the new Black.

Obama was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize because he was black, he has since dropped somewhere near 30,000 bombs from drones in the last year alone, killing countless civilians along the way. Trump was given the bum’s rush for speaking inconvenient truths.

We were told Trump ‘attacked civil rights icon’ John Lewis, black, when the reality is Trump was responding to Lewis’ attack on him.  Lewis is applauded and feted, Trump maligned and slandered.

Women march against Trump and the BBC looks on with tears in its eyes but this is the same BBC that deliberately hid what it knew was going on in Rochdale and Rotherham as 1,400 white girls were raped and abused by mostly Pakistani heritage men, the same BBC that told us that what happened in Cologne was a right-wing conspiracy, the same BBC that ignores what is happening across Europe which makes Norway the rape capital of Europe with Sweden not far behind.  Guess the BBC is only interested in women’s rights if they are black or vote Democrat.

And of course if you have a brown skin or a ‘non-white’ religion you have a licence to bomb and shoot white people and the BBC will find excuses for you and make sure people ‘understand’ the grievances that drove you to this violence….you are a victim twice over.

Another open thread for a new week and a new dawn….


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  1. Ian Rushlow says:

    Do this and you’re toast!
    About 15 years ago, food activists ran a campaign against a chemical called Acrylamide. This is produced naturally during certain cooking processes. Despite lack of compelling evidence, it was described as carcinogenic and people were urged not to eat burnt toast so as to reduce their exposure (in reality the quantities produced are miniscule and the main sources of Acrylamide are industrially produced foodstuffs such as cereals). And now, the campaign against toast is back! In response to renewed alarm mongering by the activists, last autumn the EU got involved. Give it a few months and the UK’s Food Standard Agency pips in, with a suitable article/advertisement on the BBC website (see Needless to say, the BBC does not mention the EU or the activist groups, much less the motivations and financiers of the latter. Here’s a more detailed backgrounder –
    For the sake of BBC employees, one can only hope that organic muesli and skinny lattés are not effected!


    • Sluff says:

      There is no question about the hazard of acrylamide. It is pretty nasty, and its near neighbour acrylonitrile is even worse. Back in the day I sloshed a lot of both around. The data is clear. For the 100% pure substances that is.
      But on everything else you are spot on. Nanny state telling us what to do but with no context. How much more likely are you to die of cancer if you eat 5 slices of burnt toast per day for 10 years? Zippo.
      It’s just another public sector quango with insufficient meaningful work to do trying to justify its existence. Perhaps they are about to put in their budget for the next financial year.


      • JimS says:

        Many years ago I was surprised to see that our American friends had declared a well-known thread-locking compound to be carinogentic.

        This is the sort of stuff that comes in a tiny bottle and a ‘drop’ is too much. Apparently 1% of the contents are saccarine and if 80kg of this is fed to rats 50% of them get tumours.

        We all need to be aware that doubling a miniscule risk still makes it of minimal importance. (Remember when turning off our phone chargers was going to ‘save the planet’ – saving a minute amount of electricity per home saves a minute amount of electricity in the world).


      • StewGreen says:

        Careful : when the bacon scare came up I checked that the only thing tht excludes a product from being on the official “MAY cause cancer list” is that the substance has been proved NOT to cause cancer.
        There is actually a higher much shorter list of things that are proven to be hazardous.


        • ID says:

          It all seems terribly racist to me. Dark-brown toast is more dangerous than fairer more white, Aryan toast. Once the Brexit mob hears of this there will lynchings up and down the country.


  2. seismicboy says:

    Homeland (ch4)- what a difference a season makes.
    Since the last season in which we were told in no uncertain terms what muslims are about because “it’s all in their book” – it’s gone all lefty and soppy about muslim rights despite the fact that a young American muslim is clearly engaged in terrorism!
    I should have known something was up when the president elect was revealed – as a woman ! That’s the trouble with tv productions, once they’re made they can’t be unmade. PMSL.


    • Ian Rushlow says:

      Homeland… Piece of trash. Try watching the original Israeli series upon which it is based – Prisoners of War (or Hatufim in Hebrew). 10 times better.


    • engineerdownunder says:

      I blame “24” and the like for Obama. The wise old president was black.
      Then the nasty corrupt weak president was white. It seems that the evil guys in any Hollywood movie, US or BBC TV series are always white, old guys, usually in positions of power. (The people who blow you up and behead you, or try to, in real life are actually a very different demographic, but no matter to the luvies).

      The young have been brainwashed over time by this repeat, repeat, repeat propaganda. So they think Trump, white = nasty without even listening or thinking properly.


      • Iain Muir says:

        But, to me at least, it backfired. The black President was a pompous, self righteous, stuffed shirt whereas the corrupt one was far more interesting to watch.


      • Cranmer says:

        Engineerdownunder, the ‘wise old black man’ is such a stock character in modern TV and films that he even has a name. Google ‘magical negro’ to see what I mean. All part of the propaganda, if you ask me; a deliberate reversal of the (admittedly very silly) pre-1960s film stereotype of the eye-rolling, tap-dancing, watermelon munching black characters.


      • tarien says:

        They still are being brainwashed just consider the farcical engagement of mostly young unworldly protesting against the new President Trump-just incomprehensible from supposed educated people. They had better get used to the idea of President Trump-as a Brit I wish him well, he certainly showed where his Patriotism lies, wish we could have more of that shown by our Politicians, Business leaders and Educationalists.


      • Rob in Cheshire says:

        Hollywood likes to use British actors as the baddies, but I suppose that the role of a nasty white President of the USA is one where they feel they have to use an American.


    • imaynotalwaysloveyou says:

      I watched some episodes of the first season – but couldn’t take the lead character seriously (Claire Danes). Although it wouldn’t surprise me nowadays that our own MI6 is full of twitchy neurotic nutters who have gone ‘middle-eastern’ native.


      • Sluff says:

        I’m a bit of a Homeland fan, and it’s a bit early Imo to write off the new series.
        But consider. Someone makes the series at their own risk and hopes to make money by selling the rights. You don’t like it. i don’t like it. We switch off. Viewing figures fall. Advertising reach falls. Advertising revenue falls. Profits reduce or disappear.
        How much cozier to have £4bn a year gifted to you by an outdated financial model, and then you hire like minded people to make programmes that fit your view of the world.


    • KatieH says:

      Homeland bet on hillary winning the election and it was a big fail. They delayed this season until now as it usually airs in october for this very reason. I quite like it but claire danes can be annoying sometimes but its peter quinn who is the standout along with mandy patinkin. Quinn was the one that gave the holy book speech in the last series.


  3. Oaknash says:

    The BBC what more can we say about it.

    I used to find it slightly amusing and see it as a slightly dotty Aunty (who saw the good in everyone) with the guileless and clumsy way it uses to manage the news agendas.

    However those days have long gone.

    These days I think the BBC more closely resembles a bloated and stubborn tapeworm which has expanded throughout the whole digestive system and will eventually kill its host. Its appetite for nourishment – inexhaustible demands for access to money, both through private sources and the TV license know no bounds.

    Its host who has had to carry this parasite for many years has been both in denial about its existence and was so used to it just “being there”. He almost regards it as being part of himself. Those who know the host used to say “your looking well Charles” out of politeness because that is what civilised people do. Even though in truth, Charles was starting to look a little peeky.

    In the past it was content just to dish out a little nausea, and maybe some diarrhea as well as passing the odd segment of disinformation, news manipulation, and general multculty propaganda.

    But now things have changed. It has become so large and confident in itself and so insatiable in its demand for resources and so profligate in its dissemination of propaganda and media manipulation that the physical existence of the host himself is now at risk. There appears now no limit to its race hustling, spreading of lies about migration numbers, effects of, attempts at social and sexual engineering in fact there appears no social, cultural or spiritual more which the BBC is unwilling to try and besmirch and destroy in its quest for “diversity”.

    It has now reached the point that people are starting to see how ill Charles is and no-one says he looks well anymore.

    Unfortunately we are now beyond drugs and major surgery is called for to cut this offensive and odious organism out of our system. Whether the professional politicians (many of whom have also profitably played the grievance system themselves) will have the stomach to do this – remains to be seen.

    Even if not operated on, any parasite which eventually kills its host is in the end unsuccessful. But the longer politicians ignore the BBC, the stronger our enemies become and less cohesive we will become as a society.

    All our enemies will have to do is just wait………………..


    • Doublethinker says:

      There is an excellent piece by Harry Phipps in Heat Street , you find it on Guido Fawkes this morning, which rips lumps out of the BBC’s coverage of President Trump ( I find I enjoy writing President Trump I can imagine lefties spitting out their dummies every time they see those words) . It seems to me that since the GE of 2015 the BBC has become worse and worse and now is solely a campaigning organisation for the liberal left elite world view. They openly oppose Brexit and vilify those of us who voted Leave. In they same way they supported Clinton to the death and attack and belittle President Trump at every opportunity. They proselytise on behalf of Islam even though every sensible person knows Islam today is a real and present danger to Western values. They love multiculturalism (Islam doesn’t but they ignore that) , they hate Britain ,particularly England , and are deliberately trying to destroy our knowledge and understanding of our history. All the signs are that they are succeeding, why else would luvvies et al say that Britain was responsible for slavery etc.
      Smashing the BBC is a critical first step to building a better Britain. It is a constant and depressing wonder to me that the Tories can’t see how crucial this is.


      • Dogger Bank says:

        Great post and your final sentence identifies a problem that sticks in my craw too. Why, oh why do we have to endure paying for this political and cultural enemy in our midst? Why do our Tory politicians lack the will to do something about it?


      • Oaknash says:

        DT – I think the sad truth is, is that these days most of the Tories dont actually believe in anything apart from their bank balances.

        With one or two exceptions such as Rees Mogg to me it appears that most of them like Soudbry, Clarke and the Teezer have bought into the liberal/soft tory agenda.

        All trying hard to be all things to all people, hugging hoodies and telling us about how Islam is “The Religion of Peace”, how we should have more gay disabled vicars to increase diversity – in fact anything as long as it does not include telling us anything divisive and non inclusive, such as being proud of our country, culture and traditions.

        With the Teezer I think adopting the “progressive” line was a cold calculated decision. Many of her other MPs appeared more than willing to go down this root. Having said I still do not think the Teezer is wholly comfortable with brexit – hence the prevarication and over planning.

        The Teezer with brexit reminds me of the americans at the battle of Anzio. They landed and spent too much time consolidating the beachhead before moving off. By this time the Germans had organised themselves and were able to take the Americans on.


        • Doublethinker says:

          As you said, a sad truth .One I try to resist believing but , as you point out , the evidence that you are correct is mounting steadily. Even UKIP have many socialist policies albeit ones that benefit Britons. I hate to even think it but perhaps the forty or fifty year undermining campaign of the BBC has so weakened the British people that they have lost their common sense , their sense of nationhood and their self respect. We need a President Trump to make us great again. Fat chance though.


          • Oaknash says:

            DT You are right and we had a potential Trump ourselves – he was called Nigel Farage and as far as I know not one of his predictions have been shown to be false and look how he is treated both by the establishment and the press.

            The establishment and media hate him for being right and the snowflakes hate him for trying to burst the opaque bubble of fleece that surrounds their “onsie world” Where everything is solved with love.

            The liberal establishment want people too lose confidence in our independence as a nation as it makes us far more reliant on the likes of the EU and the state.

            I am afraid that people will not wake up until things get a lot worse and even then they may well just submit to the liberal agenda and the not so liberal invaders just like native Swedes have.

            Time will tell. Yet when you see that people still do not see the danger of a Scandanavian situation happening here – I do sometimes wonder about our youth. I suppose if for decades you have receiving subliminal messages from the media that we are weak and unable to defend ourselves, then it is understandable when people lose confidence in themselves.


            • Doublethinker says:

              A 13 year old relative of mine told me he had been on a school trip to the International Slavery Museum in Liverpool . So I asked him what he thought about it. He said he thought that the British had been awful and that millions of innocent black people had suffered at their hands. I didn’t discuss it very deeply with him and I may be jumping to my favoured conclusion, but I thought that he was given no context by his teachers of what the world was like in the eighteenth century but encouraged to see these events of three hundred years ago through present day eyes. I think he was left with the impression that the British were unique in running the slave trade and that we had invented it. I suppose it is possible that his teachers actually believe this to be the case. They may even have been taught this throughout their own education even at university.
              This is just a tiny piece of anecdotal evidence that the British people are losing, perhaps already lost , their sense of their history and respect for their country and having it replaced by a leftist narrative which teaches them to be ashamed of British history. Once this leftist plot has succeeded people will be more easily manipulated into following the liberal left globalist world vision. It depresses and angers me and fuels my hatred of the BBC , MSM and the educational establishment.


              • Oaknash says:

                DT – I guess the earlier you start the programme the more effect it has. If a nation is bowed down with guilt about what their grandparents did it is so much easier to force negative change upon them as they are on a guilt trip and somehow feel that this is some sort of atonement for the crimes of their forebears. Germany in particular seems to demonstrate this.
                It would be interesting to know just how much mention “The religion of Peace” gets in the museum for both its current and past practices my guess is not a lot.
                I looked at the museums Director Dr David Fleming OBE facebook page – Lets just say he seems a man who definitely has an agenda! He is also “hideously white” working in a museum which focuses on the African/Europe/American slave trade – so I guess he has to work just that bit harder to prove his progressive credentials.
                I dont know how far back you can go to continue punishing a nation but I think Mongolia should be forced to pay punitive reparations to all of Europe as nine hundred years ago around 40 million people are said to have died in his wars.


                • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

                  And those bloody Roman soldiers should pay up too! I mean, what did they ever do for us, except bring nettles to Britain?


              • Cranmer says:

                Doublethinker, the idea that Britain is to blame for the world’s ills has a long pedigree. It goes back, at least, to the rise of romantic nationalism in the mid nineteenth century, and was added to by the rise of marxism in the twentieth century.

                My mother trained as a teacher in the early 1960s and according to her, marxist ideas were well underway in the syllabus even then. I think the big change probably occurred in the 1980s however. By then, the generation that had fought in the war and then gone on to become teachers for want of any other work (such as my old headmaster) had retired, so once the last generation with national pride had gone, the marxists had free rein.

                By the 1980s also, Labour had largely destroyed the grammar school system, with its emphasis on the classics and tradition.


  4. charmbrights says:

    Why was so much of the national “News” on BBC1 at both 6 pm and 10pm on 22nd Jan. devoted to an advertisement for the opening of a new film which is a sequel to a previous one? Admittedly it was a slow news day, only a few dozaen people killed in a train crash, a few people at risk after an avalanche, a new president in the USA, and a major interview with the Prime Minister.

    Of course the BBC is anti-Trump and anti-May and anti-Brexit so reporting such things honestly would be asking too much.


    • Bob Nelson says:

      It’s directed by the great Danny Boyle. Sets BBC hearts a-fluttering.


      • BRISSLES says:

        Sky are at it as well. Whats particularly galling is, the age group of the presenters who had ‘posters of Trainspotting on their wall at Yuni’, while the rest of us were out making a living at the time so haven’t a clue about this ‘iconic’ film !

        HOWEVER, it WAS good to hear Glad All Over by the Dave Clark 5 as background in Endeavour – now we’re talking ! How lovely too, to see nurses back then looking oh so spotlessly clean, and doctors wearing Persil white coats, how comforting times were then.


        • Fol-de-rol says:

          BRISSLES January 23, 2017 at 9:27 am
          “… it WAS good to hear Glad All Over by the Dave Clark 5 as background in Endeavour – now we’re talking ! How lovely too, to see nurses back then looking oh so spotlessly clean, and doctors wearing Persil white coats, how comforting times were then.”

          I was in hospital for a week to have my tonsils out. Those were the days. Polio, diphtheria, Georgie Best, jumpers for goalposts, Fyfe Robertson, Joan Bakewell.

          Only Joan Bakewell’s left…… and the old jumpers.


  5. Tothepoint says:

    The mentally ill psychopaths at the Islamic terror group Al Shabeeb have had to travel to the other side of the world to find their daily message of ‘muslims are the real victims, white people are evil’, but they have their holy trinity with this beaut currently showing on their cult webshite….

    The devious bastards must have creamed their pants with this anti-white hate fest! Racist ✔ Sexist ✔ Islaphobic ✔… reality though..non of those things ✔

    Jihadist Mehreen Faruqi is an Muslim first, Australian MP second (convenient for a jihadist), who is clearly using her position to lie and deceive about the true meaning of islam and how bloodshed and slaughter is mandatory in mad mo’s vision of complete submission of the entire world to darkness.

    What Mehreen has done here is very devious and right up Al Shabeebs street. Our jihadist MP has decided to take any criticism of her death cult, and placed them under the weaponised labels of ‘racism’ and ‘sexism’, which ironically, along with murder and rape, are the only things islam teachers its followers.

    Best part has to be the comments on Facebook, where our jihadist has shown these exchanges (utterly taken out of context and doctored no doubt) to her moronic dhimmy followers, who once again show how much these delusional idiots will lie to themselves and ignore reality, to continue with their crusade against their own people, and doing everything they can to assist in islams never ending war against the world


  6. Dave666 says:

    BBc breakfast the scrabble to keep the Trident D-5 test flight failure in the news continues. It bears very little relevance to the overall effectiveness of the weapons system wow one failure out of how many successful test launches well at least 157
    BBc agenda in action again.


    • Ian Rushlow says:

      Hmm, let’s try and work this through from a BBC/Labour/CND perspective:
      1. A test firing of a Trident missle fails.
      2. The system must therefore be inherently unreliable.
      3. Ergo, it should be scrapped immediately and Britain should unilaterally renounce nuclear weapons, integrate its remaining armed forces into an EU Army, whilst all nuclear weapons in the world should be placed under the control of the UN.
      Is it something like that? (see “BBC Management and Policy Guide, Chapter 4, Paragraph 12, Sub-section 17.2”).


      • ID says:

        Yes, I was similarly puzzled by the hysteria and the non-sequiturs.
        The left and BBC have essentially replaced logical deduction with some sort of free association of ideas.
        As you say, the mere suggestion of “test failure” prompts the idea “failure” and so the “trident project has failed”. Of course they already believe “Trident bad” for no other reason than they believe it to be so. The non-sequitur confirms, in their minds, what they already “know” to be true. The BBC then waffle on tediously about nothing. When this eventually is about to peter out, there will be even more waffle about a “cover up”.
        I have just heard a Labour nonentity on Sky claiming that “cost cutting” was the real problem. Apparently, the navy is penny-pinching and should be firing off missles willy-nilly 24/7. He does not seem to realise that if you test every missile, bomb and bullet you have, then you would have none left if you needed then. It never occurred to him that you have many missiles just in case some malfunction.


  7. Guest Who says:

    Who could not agree with Nick here?:

    Sounds like a top recruit for Jimbo’s ‘facts, heck’ team (or should that be, and I quote, “facts, heck” team)?


  8. Englands Dreaming says:

    Heart warming video on the Beeb website, “Why Austria is teaching Refugees to Ski” At least thats how its titled on the headline, but when you click on the article under the European news section its called “Austria teaches asylum seekers how to ski”

    So for the Beeb once a person claims asylum they are no longer a migrant and they can start using the emotive term refugee. But from the video it was clear that the people were asylum seekers who were still being processed – therefore impossible to say if refugees or not.


  9. AsISeeIt says:

    8 out of 10 owners said their cat prefers it

    Flavour of the month “Fake News” is there again as a story on BBC on line:

    ‘The appearance of fake news on websites and social media has inspired scientists to develop a “vaccine” to immunise people against the problem. A University of Cambridge study devised psychological tools to target fact distortion’

    If that were not sinister enough in itself alarm bells always begin to ring when the BBC doesn’t report all details.

    ‘More than 2,000 US residents were presented with two claims about global warming’

    Oh yeah? And which ‘claims’ might these be?

    The BBC doesn’t want to tell us so we have go to the internet for alternative sources:

    ‘The study also used the ACCURATE statement that “97% of scientists agree on manmade climate change”‘ [My emphasis on the word accurate]

    But as anyone with even a basic knowledge of the debate around climate change will know (and only those religiously bound by the notion of man-made global warming will deny) this 97% CLAIM does not go without challenge. For one of many examples of debunkings of it see here:

    ‘…only 5 percent of respondents, or about 160 scientists, were climate scientists. In fact, the “97 percent” statistic was drawn from an even smaller subset: the 79 respondents who were both self-reported climate scientists and had “published more than 50% of their recent peer-reviewed papers on the subject of climate change.”’

    So an experiment to find out how to tackle ‘fake news’ uses a classic example of a ‘fake news statistic’ as their truthful control ‘FACT’

    No wonder the BBC choose not to go into too much detail on this silly research – no doubt publicly funded.

    Oh and by the way on the subject of cat’s meat…

    ‘After a complaint to the Advertising Standards Authority, this was changed to “eight out of ten owners who expressed a preference said their cat prefers it”‘

    If only the public policy arena was as carefully policed for truth as the commercial world of advertising.


    • G says:

      I watched BBC’s Martine Croxall yesterday evening with a panel of two, discussing ‘Fake News’. I was struck by the ‘third-party’, ‘innocent ovservers’ approach adopted by Croxall. Reference was continually made to the ‘Media’ as if the BBC were simply observers and not a part of the lying, deceitful news ‘Media’ constructing, ‘Fake News’. This was meant to convey the equally ‘Fake News’ deceit that the BBC transcends all of that nonsense which remains firmly within the province of, you’ve got it: ‘The Media’.
      Shame that the expression, ‘Fake News’ was more in its infancy a few weeks ago, when Croxall’s colleague, Sarah Montague announced on the Today programme that it was to be Hilary that won the US election – one or two weeks BEFORE the election date!
      I recall the accuracy of the expression: “Pull the plank out of your own eye before you try and take the twig out of mine”.


    • Guest Who says:

      Socks would see the irony.


    • Oldspeaker says:

      Nice to see the BBC jihad against fake news marches on Asl, I suppose “Cambridge scientists consider fake news ‘vaccine'” beats working for a living anyway, both for the scientists and the anonymous hack.
      But just what is fake news?
      Amol Rjan to the rescue, he helpfully tells us “Fake news is of three kinds.”, and as
      BBC media editor we must respect his opinion.
      Oddly he misses the category of fake news in which a taxpayer funded organisation
      with a historical left slant lurches headlong into the new religion of
      radical progressivism, while seemingly only employing those who sing the same
      mantra. One unified progressive view on absolutely everything, no questions asked,
      anything that doesn’t fit the narrative
      Well, hide it, put a twist on it, hope nobody notices it.
      Or you could always stick your hack in a helicopter using taxpayer money for no good journalistic reason whatsover, now that’s value for money.


      • KatieH says:

        Amol Rjan was the independents editor up till december and then straight into the bbc. This guy is a full on remainer and not to be trusted one inch. Perfect for the beeb.


  10. Chilleden says:

    Did anyone else watch Panorama Trump: The Kremlin candidate. It was farcically bad. Nothing but baseless innuendo and spurious claims. It was almost like an episode of Brass Eye it was so bad. The funniest was the over the top scary music, the type you might expect during a tense scene in a horror film. It reminded me of the episode of The Simspons where Homer is watching Rock Bottom, the investigative show which had wrongly accused him of sexual harassment. The next episode is about Groundskeeper Willie, whose recording of Homer had vindicated him. Chilling music plays whilst they explain how terrible he is.
    “That man is evil!” Homer says, with his typical comical ignorance.
    “But he saved you,” Marge replies.
    “But listen to the scary music, Marge! He must be evil!”


    • Guest Who says:

      That one came, aired and vanished very quietly.

      Did James Harding’s new unit advise it may not, as such, help with brand credibility?


  11. magicoat says:

    I wonder what the BBC and other leftist MSM reported at the time..My guess a thumbs up!!! Bill Clinton’s incredible 1995 State of the Union message that sounds just like present-day Donald Trump. When Clinton addressed the problem of illegal immigrants, it was exactly a page out of Trump’s campaign speech.


  12. G says:

    Full Geert Wilders speech in Germany a few days ago –


  13. Dave666 says:

    More b/shit on breakfast about Charles’s climate change Ladybird book. Climate preacher Tony Juniper tells us it’s not a contentious issue. Older people *(where have I heard that phrase before) according to him are more likely to be “resistors” so the Ladybird books will chime with us. I stopped reading ladybird books when I was 6 you twat. Anyone on to inform the viewer Juniper is talking bollox. No chance BBc gave up any pretext of balanced reporting a long time ago.


  14. Up2snuff says:

    There are regular posters here with all sorts of useful knowledge.

    Can anyone please tell me what the comparable electricity demand is at present for a digital receiver compared to a conventional FM receiver? I know that a few years ago, the clockwork FM radios used approximately 1/20th of the power of the first clockwork DAB radios, according to manufacturers claims. (Important qualification, btw, in those last four words.) I would hope that improvements in technology would have made DAB less power hungry by now. Has anyone done some comparative testing?

    The BBC is making another big push for digitisation in the UK so it would be useful information to have available. Thanks in advance!


    • Guest Who says:

      I too would be interested. Currently I power the one in my car, and indeed the car itself, with leccy generated by a wind turbine on the car roof, that uses the forward motion of the car to turn the blades. Free movement in perpetuity.

      I have of course made the unit aerodynamic to increase efficiency beyond 100%, to match BBC fact check unit targets.


    • Restroom Mole says:

      I just checked my mains DAB and FM radios for power consumption.
      On the same station (R4 – aargh!), the DAB set was using 2.5 times as much power at reasonable listening volume.
      The increased power consumption is to run the digital to analogue converter.


  15. Up2snuff says:

    On the subject of Climate Change, listen again to an item at about 8.45 am on the BBC R4 TODAY programme. It may give you a good laugh. Or make you cry.

    In its own way it is very sad.

    The BBC are plumbing new lows on a daily basis.


  16. StewGreen says:

    R5 Now Feminism Debate : So far unBBC cos an older woman is making a good say
    She saying tat demonstrators are WRONG that they have got things out of proportion.
    An now that that working class boys are being discriminated again just to do a tiny extra for women.
    She added that women have come so far and a backlash is risked.
    And that Feminism movement is not accepting DIVERSITY of views but CONFORMITY.


  17. StewGreen says:

    R5 Now Feminism Debate : So far unBBC cos an older woman is making a good say
    She saying tat demonstrators are WRONG that they have got things out of proportion.
    An now that that working class boys are being discriminated again just to do a tiny extra for women.
    She added that women have come so far and a backlash is risked.
    And that Feminism movement is not accepting DIVERSITY of views but CONFORMITY.

    I think one panelist is a from “Women against feminism”

    Facebook Discussion


    • StewGreen says:

      Gameshow has actully just read out
      “Is in not a bit of an indulgence for women to march against Trump ?
      ..when ????* there are women closer to home suffering ”
      *I didn’t catch it all I hope he was talking about that some women are suffering due to oppression within religion/culture .


    • Lucy Pevensey says:

      This is the kind of woman we should be hearing from.
      She’s a good speaker & opponent of Islam.



  18. peterthegreat says:

    Bill Clinton has affairs: no protests.
    J.F. Kennedy has affairs by the bucket-load: no protests.
    Saint Martin Luther King has affairs, and allegedly uses and abuses white prostitutes: no protests.
    Trump uses some coarse language about women, in private: millions of wimmin go ballistic.
    Conclusion: if you want to mistreat women, be a Democrat. Or black.


    • StewGreen says:

      Feminist demonstrations are NOT about women’s rights.
      Even if Donald Trump went for surgery, turned up in a dress and came to march long
      the organiser would still say its not enough.
      The people behind the marches are not reasonable people
      – Anti Trump demos are part of the 2020 US election campaign, and have another of other drivers
      Amongst is Virtue Signalling by rich white/black hippies

      ..My first time in London was on the free the bus to the Stuff the Student Loans demo


      • StewGreen says:

        From Twitter
        – Trump does not have any hateful policies – or policies that are against equal rights. Seems only issue is right to abortion.

        – many women marched against Trump because they are free to. The real problem are the leaders women are afraid to march against

        – “the energy spent by 1 individual protesting AGAINST TRUMP would be better channeled to help against; FGM, honour killings, forced marriages, family planning, mental/physical support during ante-post natal phase.”

        Bit ironic that one guest Ayesha from Pakistan marched in THIS country about USA!
        but thinks she couldn’t march against Saudi Arabia, here.


    • Lucy Pevensey says:

      I’m really disappointed in my gender over this. It’s pathetic.
      I can’t believe this is the best they can do in this generation.
      We could hardly be more “equal” & “liberated” than we are now
      in the Western world. How can they waste all this time & energy attempting
      to stifle the very culture that affords us that equality. Yet they defend
      the extreme hatred & oppression of females that is Islam. Hypocrites with a
      capital HYPE.


      • BRISSLES says:

        Well said Lucy !
        I commented earlier, what MORE do we want ? young women in the West today have far more rights and equality than at any time in history before. The Equal Pay Act came into being in 1970 – but it still didn’t benefit me, my employers got around that one ! and the Equality Act became enforceable 7 years ago. The likes of Madonna, Helen Mirren, Scarlet Johansson, Natalie Portman et al are just ridiculous poseurs, and I’m sure many like me, will view them differently when watching their next film.


    • MartinW says:

      Yes, the BBC sides with the coloured or Democratic case by default. Just one small correction, though: I understand Martin Luther King was a Republican (as was Abraham Lincoln), but you won’t hear that on the BBC.


    • Restroom Mole says:

      Sorry Peter.
      “Black” is forbidden; use “of colour” please.


  19. Foscari says:

    With further regard to Alan’s Black is Black. The BBC is going to be in a terrible dilemma in knowing whom to support when Serena Williams plays our, well Hungarian, Australian Brit
    Johanna Konta in the 1/4 finals at the Australian Open.
    By now we all accept, well most of us that when England play India at cricket that the BBC
    is going to support India. We fully understand in the name of diversity and positive discrimination it is the BBC’S duty to support India. Although its not really positive discrimination because in sub continetal Indian conditions India are much better than England.
    So far as the tennis is concerned I am sure the rest of you like me will be supporting
    Serena Williams as the BBC will in the name of -well it could be having empathy with the women of the world against Donald Trump. Or something like that. Actualy the BBC will be in no dilemma at all.. ” Lets go Serena!!!”


    • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

      “… Hungarian, Australian Brit”.

      Reminds me of the boxer ‘Aussie Joe’ Bugner (born Jozsef Kreul Bugner in Szoreg in Hungary, former British, European and Commonwealth Heavyweight Champion).

      Now there was an immigrant!


  20. peterthegreat says:

    Brit-hating Hussein threatened to put the UK at the back of the queue.
    Now let’s hope Anglophile Trump puts the beebistan ‘journalists’ at the very back of the queue at White House press briefings, preferably out in the grounds. Preferably in the rain, sleet and snow.


    • Dave S says:

      This is really essential for all of us who want to see President Trump succeed. Banning the BBC is 100% positive. Let them write and say what they like but do not talk to them ever.


      • Guest Who says:

        Actually interested in the fake versus rational analysis of such a move.

        Clearly not allowing some in for briefings but all others should make it hard for the ‘state control’ bit of ‘holding power to account’ to be shaky, but it depends on extent.

        That said, if live feeds are shared… live… then nothing stops such as the BBC ‘reporting’ them, albeit with that unique BBC ‘analysis’ after it has been run through their editorial integrity filter for a few hours, and to get a few juicy vox pops from narrative gobs on piquet standby in the green room.

        As for the zoo that is Presidents’ or PMs’ or any other questions, as far as I can make out there are a lot of folk there who are not called anyway, anytime, and the front row brigade were cool with that when Barry pointed at them.

        Maybe a bit of ‘other one’ duty for the MSM may instil a touch of humility and, in all cases bar the BBC, one nudged along by ratings consequences.

        I would head first to Breibart and if the content is contentious, the BBC about last and only to find out who the spinners in Labour/Dems/Greenpeace/Unite/MotherJones had told them to attack with.


  21. StewGreen says:

    Women’s Hour doing the new film Denial about David Irving
    ..the American author Deborah Lipstadt who he sued for libel is speaking quite reasonably.

    ..oh now she’s ended by promoting Hillary saying anything saying Hillary was sick was internet fake-news


  22. Guest Who says:

    A good chart of new BBC Editorial Guidelines in the comments:


    • Cranmer says:

      The Seven Rules of BBC reporting is an absolute must-read for everyone on this site. I was aware of a few of them, but some are new to me.


  23. peterthegreat says:

    Brit-hating Hussein put Churchill out and threatened to put the UK at the back of the queue.

    Now Hussein is out, Trump is in, Churchill is back and May is at the very front of the queue.

    Choke on that, Beebistan!


  24. G.W.F. says:

    An extra reason why the BBC supported the wimmin’s anti Trump march, and an explanation why these wimmim never criticised Moslem attitudes to wimmin.
    See the photos in Katy Kay’s piece.
    It was very much a Moslem march

    Linda Sasour, in the photo, has connections to Hamas, Cair and the Muslim Brotherhood. Add Soros funds to that. See link

    Link to BBC article



    • peterthegreat says:

      Yes GWF, by taking on Islamism Trump will face vicious demonic opposition.
      Aided and abetted by treacherous bibistan, natch.


      • peterthegreat says:

        By taking on Islamism Trump will face vicious opposition and unholy alliances, as is already happening between Islamism and Feminazism at the demos.
        The fight is on.


    • GCooper says:

      Of course, a proper, professional, news organisation would want to ask questions about this march. Questions like, who organised it? And why?

      It’s too much to hope that sixth form propagandists like the BBC would do any such thing, naturally.


      • G.Shuttleworth says:

        Clearly it was a Democrat/Soros operation with prominent (and not so prominent) actors hired and paid via their respective agents. A drill to test the possibility of staging a leftist populist coup. To cloak your motive make everyone wear a silly hat. It played out like a cross between Rainbow and Triumph of the Will.

        Fakebook (which I rarely visit) on Sunday was intolerable. I muted a load of “friends” and they went nuts! I don’t feel I’m breaching my cast-iron adherence to the principle of free speech. They are free to speak as they like and I have a right to block the signal.


      • G.W.F. says:

        Here is the speech to the US wimmin’s march from the Moslem co- organizer, Linda Sarsour. Make no mistake this was a Moslem march whatever the participants might have believed. Straight up there for the Pallies and all.
        No wonder the BBC took her photograph – see my post above.


        • BRISSLES says:

          Yes GWF and in your other photo, there are some very professional looking lanyards and badge holders that have been created – so who paid for those ??


    • Dave S says:

      When President Trump moves the embassy to Jerusalem then these people are really going to scream along with the snowflake universities of this country. Be prepared for an outpouring of rage .
      Be prepared for a BBC in turmoil and showing it’s real colours.


    • NCBBC says:

      Rochdale and Rotherham as 1,400 white girls were raped and abused by mostly Pakistani heritage men,

      More like 2000 in Rotherham alone. And what “Pakistani heritage”? They were Muslims.

      Over the nation as a whole, more like 30,000 young girls gang raped.


      • Lucy Pevensey says:

        But the authorities prefer to look the other way than to risk being called racist.


    • Guest Who says:

      Blimey, I had heard the Clinton Foundation had stopped, but no idea those three had used all remaining stocks on their faces.


  25. Deborah says:

    Saturday morning on Radio 4 the BBC reported on a meeting in Koblenz of the ‘far Right’ (BBC’s description) which both Marine Le Penn and Geert Wilders’s attended. As with many meetings a press release was obviously put out at the end. The BBC chose the word ‘hailed’ to describe what I think the organisers were claiming was the success of the meeting. ‘Far Right’ and ‘hailed’ – what do you think of when you hear those words put together? I am sure the BBC did not chose those words by chance.


  26. tarien says:

    Well done President Trump for replacing the bust of Sir Winston Churchill back in the Oval Office and removing that of Martin Luther King. King didn’t do much to save America from being invaded by Hitler, or did anything at all to help us in Europe-his fame so called was to endeavour to bring better recognition to his black people and of course to blame all and sundry for slavery, never mind they all came from slavery in their own lands-indeed we British over centuries were enslaved one way or another and even taken on Plantation Slave ships to America. However it is those that follow the teachings of Islam whether Black or White that we should all be concerned about.


  27. PayNoPropagandaTax says:

    I find it amusing that the BBC is warning us about fake news.

    What immunisation do they suggest against their own news?

    Mine is to avoid BBC news and to not pay Propaganda Tax.


    • Guest Who says:

      So far they are losing twitter and Facebook on this, but oddly BBC Trending seems not to be covering it.

      ‘quis custodiet ipsos custodes’ as they say in James’ cracked unit.


  28. nogginator says:

    BBC News- “Israel has approved hundreds of new settlement homes in occupied East Jerusalem, after the staunch pro-Israel US President Donald Trump took office.
    Jerusalem Deputy Mayor Meir Turgeman told AFP: “Now we can finally build.”
    Israel’s PM reportedly delayed approval given the opposition of Barack Obama, who infuriated Israel by allowing a UN resolution against settlements to pass.
    Settlements in East Jerusalem are considered illegal under international law”

    Occupation? illegal?? ,,, Jerusalem is the eternal capital of Israel, you don t occupy your own capital, you can stick some mosque on the Temple Mount, its still the Temple Mount … BBC things are a changing, get concerned about the same imposition of mosques here, and BLOODY REPORT IT!.
    Instead of being hampered, backstabbed, and undermined by US Admin, and insane Islamic interests. It should now get support from the US.
    Get that embassy moved … and the statement is made


  29. Oldspeaker says:

    BBC gives Mad onna a chance to weasel herself out of a secret service investigation here,
    Nigel would probably already be in the dock by now accompanied by banner headlines of a ‘Foul mouthed rant’ but the BBC sees fit to provide Madge with a full page of apologetics because, you know, “she wanted to start a “revolution of love”.”. By blowing something up.


    • NCBBC says:

      The weasel left always shouts, screams, and engage in acts of violence, as the anti-Fa does. They are bullies, and will destroy anyone who opposes them.

      Th left has had a good run so far, after the fall of the Berlin wall. But in Donald Trump they have met their match. This President is assembling a group of men of outstanding calibre, and a Gen Patton type tenacity to win. Surrounded by an intellectually formidable team, and the power of the USA at his command, its going to be difficult for the left from now on.


    • Guest Who says:

      I am so using TOOC ‘taken out of context’ defence if Police Ecosse ever are moved to submit a twitexradition to Ms. May for any comments I might have made that are unapproved.

      Hopefully it will get me out of jail before I have an ‘in carceration adverse event’.


  30. G.Shuttleworth says:

    Great weekend and hope others feel the same. Was in Dublin and work I had to do got cancelled in the morning, went for long boozy lunch in seaside village then watched the inauguration. Had a ticket for Black Sabbath gig that night, was terrified Ozzy might display cuck tendencies given the day in it, no, just hard pounding blues/funk rock the whole night and 10,000 fans making no apologies for the brazen display of machismo. Was only hitting the sack when I got a text from a friend saying David Icke was doing a ten hour show the following day up the road! Got up the next morning, show was sold out but they squeezed me in. The pioneer of alternative news he has massively improved. Tons of info and a lot of explanation for curiosities and idiosyncracies I’ve observed the last few years. He’s in two minds about Trump – happy the media are angry but adopting a “wait and see” approach as to what he actually does.


    • Kaiser says:

      I was at Sabbath in Manchester

      ” Ozzy might display cuck tendencies ” lol

      the crowd was hideously white, though there were plenty of women displaying their machismo as well just for balance.


  31. StewGreen says:

    12pm News : Hardline message from Dutch PM “If you don’t like our country, then get out”
    Mark Rutte is election campaigning faces fierce competition from Geert Wilders

    ‘If you live in a country in which the ways of dealing with others annoys you, you have a choice,’ Rutte, who is leading the VVD‘s election campaign, told the paper. ‘Then leave, you don’t have to be here.’

    Mail :


  32. Adrienne says:

    Just watching the BBC series “Secret Army” from the 1970s. Apart a few dodgy accents, it’s pretty good. I also suspect that it was made on a relatively small budget by current standards. What I didn’t expect was the drip…drip…drip of digs at the Allies’ bombing of Germany. I find it hard to believe that people in occupied Belgium, literally risking their lives to repatriate British airmen, would be unduly concerned about their targets.

    I didn’t realise that the BBC’s right-on agenda went that far back.


    • Cranmer says:

      Adrienne, the BBC’s documented bias goes back at least to the 1930s; Winston Churchill made an official complaint wherein he claimed the BBC were deliberately blocking him from broadcasts. There has always been a slight liberal bias in drama and light entertainment – one of the 1970s Dr Who writers, Malcolm Hulke, had communist connections, for example – but I think the difference was it was more subtle then and was more of an intelligent questioning of prevalent values, rather than an attempt to completely subvert them.


      • Adrienne says:


        It didn’t spoil the drama but it was a little irritating and seemed improbable. And all this was supposed to be before Dresden (which I don’t criticise from the relative safety of 2017).

        Probably more irritating now than in the 1970s because it’s on top of all the recent, more obvious bias we have to tolerate.


        • Cranmer says:

          One of the main things that has changed since the 70s is the way news is reported. Until the mid 80s TV news was very static, with a newsreader at a desk reading from papers. Occasionally there was some external reporting of British events, but foreign events were reported by, at most, a brief, crackly telephone report from a BBC correspondent. ‘The truth, read by gentlemen’ as they used to say. What little footage there was was on film or video and thus hard to edit to give a particular ‘angle’ to a story, so the news seemed to be more objective.

          Eg, it would have been very difficult, if not impossible, in those days to edit a piece of footage of, say, a riot in Israel, to make it look like one side was guilty and another innocent, fly it on a plane back to London and get it all ready in time for the nine o’clock news.

          But now with instant digital communications, almost any slant or bias can be spun on any news story, instantly and for global consumption. This is why the MSM are so afraid of ‘fake news’, ie, news that does not share their own particular bias.


    • BRISSLES says:

      Adrienne, when watching Secret Army did you notice the credits when they rolled ? all good old English names. I watched a vintage Sherlock with the sublime Jeremy Brett and as the credits rolled there were an abundance of Steve’s, John’s, Tony’s, Mike’s, Angela, Dawn, etc etc and not one ethnic name to be seen. Presumably they were all at school or yet to be born during this period, preparing for the take-over of jobs in this industry 30 odd years later !!


      • Adrienne says:

        Brissles – no, I didn’t to be honest, but then I rarely bother with credits.

        My name isn’t exactly Anglo-Saxon, so it didn’t occur to me, but now you mention it…


  33. ToobiWan says:

    On a lighter note, fake? 🙂
    ^A young man named Donald bought a horse from a farmer for $250. The farmer agreed to deliver the horse the next day. The next day, the farmer drove up to Donald’s house and said, “Sorry son, but I have some bad news, the horse died.”

    Donald replied, “Well, then just give me my money back.”

    The farmer said, “Can’t do that. I went and spent it already.”

    Donald said, “OK, then, just bring me the dead horse.”

    The farmer asked, “What ya gonna do with him?”

    Donald said, “I’m going to raffle him off.”

    The farmer said, “You can’t raffle off a dead horse!”

    Donald said, “Sure I can, watch me. I just won’t tell anybody he’s dead.”

    A month later, the farmer met up with Donald and asked, “What happened with that dead horse?”

    Donald said, “I raffled him off. I sold 500 tickets at five dollars apiece and made a profit of $2495.”

    The farmer said, “Didn’t anyone complain?”

    Donald said, “Just the guy who won. So I gave him his five dollars back.”

    Donald has just moved into the White House.”


  34. StewGreen says:

    Notice how the sisterhood only extends to sisters with the same LeftMob politics
    ..Step outside that, and they pile on the hate against you ..ask Katie Hopkins or Margaret Thatcher or Anne Coulter

    “The women March’s were nothing to do with feminism. It’s like every other social movements that been hijacked by the left, it’s politics pure and simple. “


    • Guest Who says:

      ‘Tell me BBC, what was it about BBC employee Carole Thatcher that first attracted you to summary dismissal?’


    • TruthSeeker says:

      It’s poison pure and simple.
      24/7/365, two minutes hate, every two minutes, since 1917.


  35. gaxvil says:

    Hmm, your average white male is not permitted suffer from any from of discrimination or prejudice . After all we are the ones who dish it out and are called, racist, mysoganist etc..
    Surely, that we are so frequently labelled means we should have a word? A nice shorthand term we could accuse others of being to stifle speech and put on banners?
    White-hetero-male-ophobia doesn’t really cut it.


  36. Spacemonkey says:

    “Norway the rape capital of Europe with Sweden not far behind”

    As far as my research can tell Norway has a rape rate of 19.2 per 100,000 population while Sweden has over 3 times that rate at 63.5 per 100,000 population. To put that into perspective, Sweden has a worse rape problem than Pakistan and Nicaragua combined. Sweden in now the 3rd most rapey country on Earth behind South Africa and Botswana. It wasn’t always this way, as of 2004 Sweden had a rape rate of approximately 25 per 100,000 population, still quite bad compared to Norway on 16, but rape really started to take off in Sweden after 2004, raising by 66% in a single year and continuing to rise every year since then.

    What happened to Sweden after 2004? You may well ask. Here’s a clue; after several years of stable population and stable rape rates, the population increased from 8.8m to 9.3m, a 6% increase in population which has resulted in a 250% increase in rapes. No prizes for guessing where these migrants came from.

    (All figures as of 2010)


    • gaxvil says:

      But a deafening silence from women’s groups over here – just like animal rights and the halal trade.


    • Guest Who says:

      The anti-Trump march in Olso was renamed ‘Heroines of Telemark’.


      Probably needed to be to be outdoors.

      Bet it was like ‘Trapped’ only without the laughs.


  37. NISA says:

    “The Times” email tells me it contains this column “Justin Webb: as the president is deluded about so much, his visitor must decide how far to challenge his beliefs

    So no indication that the BBC wants to change Trump’s impression of its failure to hide its bias.


    • Guest Who says:

      Is there a link or page grab of that, as ITTB has a decent list to match here of Justin and others bending those impartial editorial guidelines into contortions, especially when it regards President Trump?


  38. gaxvil says:

    Is the use of the word, ‘deluded’ loaded with bias or am I being over sensitive?


  39. EnglandExpects says:

    BBC 1pm news in full government-bashing mode. Stormin’ Norman the ‘Tory hating’ but toff politics assistant editor gloats over the alleged failed trident missile test on a refitted submarine. Next target is the new industrial strategy. How can the BBC nuke that ? Easy, just keep quoting labour, who say not enough money is being thrown at it. Also mention our skills education system is inadequate. But who talked of ‘ education, education, education’ and allowed colleges to waste millions on lovely glass and steel edifices – mostly to train hairdressers and brickies, the latter just in time for construction’s 2008 collapse? Next we have a fairly routine Trump demolition job. Unfavourable cmoments on Trump’s first full day and election promises. Wow, we have ‘Trump’s first 100 days’ to be presented by none other than affluent establishment Hillary lover Katty Kay tonight. Can’t wait!!


    • Beltane says:

      Sorry EE, the fact that Norman Smith wears a suit does not make him a toff – I mean, it wouldn’t even cross your mind to put Salmond and Sturgeon in that same bracket, would it?


    • Doublethinker says:

      This was no accident but in fact a subtle plot to destroy the BBC. Having so openly ,but falsely , established that our missile guidance system is dodgy another test fireing will be required shortly . In fact the wayward missile hit its exact target , a swamp in the Everglades , to within a yard. The next test will have to be in U.K. Waters because the Americans are nervous, they don’t know the plan you see. The next unarmed missile will also apparently go off course and crash into central London . In fact right on top of Broadcasting House but the Navy reckon its kinetic energy will be just sufficient to destroy the building entirely but there will no collateral damage. The firing test is timed for maximum occupation of the building. Job done . BBC eliminated accidentally. Trident was cheap at the price


  40. StewGreen says:

    Women’s March against Donald Trump in Edmonton, a guy appears to punch a female Rebel Media reporter’s camera as a crowd looks on. He claim wrongly filming is illegal.
    The punch is at 3:46m
    Seems he found the polite questioning intimidating and he lost it for a second, the people around him immediately calmed him down.
    It wasn’t like he deliberately set out to harm the Rebel media reporter from the beginning.


  41. AsISeeIt says:

    Our Shelagh Fogarty recently of the BBC expresses her ‘feelings’

    ‘This pretty much sums up my feelings #womensmarchlondon #trumpetytrump’

    When journalism becomes blatant political advocacy – when they leave the BBC

    (As Retweeted by our Nicky Campbell still of the BBC – not us, guv)


    • KatieH says:

      i remember listening to shelagh on lbc the morning of the results in america and she was like a demented idiot in the studio along with alex salmond. They were both losing it while ian dale took the piss out of them. You can take the beeboid out of the bbc but not the bbc out of the beeboid.


  42. ObiWan says:

    These days, I don’t often get the chance to say a good word about the BBC.

    A few weeks ago I mentioned seeing the first part (of 3) of a BBC Natural History programme called ‘Thailand: Earth’s Tropical Paradise’.

    At the time, I commended the programme for its upbeat, positive message about real conservation, the amazing photography and apolitical presentation (not a word about ‘climate change’).

    Having now seen all three episodes (Sky HD recordings) I can report that the same refusal to indulge in pointless ‘climate change’ activism persisted throughout the entirety of the 3-part series. How did this happen?

    All three episodes remained steadfastly focused on genuine conservation (who knew, for instance, that Northern Thailand still has wild Tiger and Elephant populations – and that numbers of both are slowly, carefully recovering thanks to the help of (armed) Thai National Park Rangers and government and NGO scientists?).

    Well done, BBC! How on Earth did you slip this mini masterpiece of honest, fascinating and immersive natural history documentary-making past your internal box-tickers? So utterly refreshing, so enjoyable! I honestly wish there were another three episodes of this! I learned a great deal about beautiful Thailand and it’s amazing wildlife and landscape and I wasn’t hectored or harangued about imaginary climate catastrophes once!

    I will unreservedly recommend the entire 3-parter to anyone who has lost faith with the BBC’s ability to turn out 1st-class natural history documentary films. You need fear no hidden political messaging; this is a rare, exotic treat (best watched in HD for the full gorgeousness of those amazing vistas). Personally, I found the music in series perfect and not too overpowering as I know some here have remarked. I really liked the meshing of west and east in the compositions.

    Please, BBC: Can I have some more of the same?


  43. Guest Who says:

    OT, but would like to thank those who pointed at Classic Swiss online, now playing via my non DAB amp very nicely indeed.

    A single unobtrusive commercial at log on (note: Global advertisers, who seem the same) and maybe at drop out, which so far has happened once in 3 hrs.

    Low key, short links, In German, so even if they have news, my O level Victor and Valiant standard remains untroubled.


  44. Fred Bloggs says:

    Jo Coburn Daily Politics: Her knowledge of the EU and the Brexit process, should in her position be much better. Her lack of accuracy in detailed knowledge borders on the criminal.


  45. gaxvil says:

    Be interesting to hear how the BBC saw the future had things gone how they wanted.
    (Though they shouldn’t ‘want’ anything – they’re a news organization apparently.)
    Anyhow, had Clinton won they’d be now be preparing for war with Russia while able to phone for a, 24 hour, delivered to your door, abortion.


  46. thirdoption says:

    The Radcliffe and Marconie show on BBC 6 music started today with extreme left-winger Stuart Marconie flying solo in the studio, Mark Radcliffe being in Glasgow.

    He started the show with David Bowie, Suffragette City, dedicating it to “all the woman who marched yesterday, who outnumbered those at Trump’s inauguration by three to one”
    He later had Billy Bragg on for an interview.

    Please tell me where in the BBC charter it states that impartiality can be ignored willy-nilly.


    • Dave S says:

      Think of it all as the end of the phoney war. As long as we on the side of our old civilisation stayed quiet and seemed beaten the MSM and our world class BBC could keep up a pretence of fairness. That era is over and now it is a real culture war and the progressive elite is scared. Never courageous anyway it’s fear is showing. Just look at the useless luvvies and you have got to laugh . Helen Mirren , Cumberbatch and the rest. Who the hell do they really think we are.?
      Odds of ten to one are fair I think with the snowflakes.


    • gaxvil says:

      BBC music shows – a political platform? Everett was sacked for so much less but that was then.
      Clearly BBC are confident they can come out as the Left Wing political party they are. Intolerable, but while our MPs defend them consistently we are stuffed.


  47. thirdoption says:

    “Pound surges over Trump fears”

    MSN has the headline, stating the strengthening pound is due to fears over Donald Trump.

    Last week the headline was the weakening pound is due to Brexit.

    Fake news followed by more fake news.


  48. Spacemonkey says:

    Sky News, January 23rd 2017 @ 13:37.
    Dominic Waghorn, US Correspondent of Sky News.

    Talking of Trump; ” …someone he owes a special debt to FBI director, James Comey, whose resurrection of Hillary Clinton’s e-mail controversy helped Trump get elected”

    So much wrong with this statement.

    Firstly, Trump does not owe a special debt of thanks to Comey. Comey was simply doing his job.

    Secondly, Comey did not resurrect anything. The Clinton e-mail investigation was and still is an ongoing investigation. It was never closed.

    Thirdly, can Waghorn actually back up the assertion that Clomey carrying out his duties helped Trump get elected? Is there any proof of this, any evidence of any sort? Or is it just an opinion? It doesn’t sound like an opinion, it sounds to me like a statement of fact.

    Fake news from beginning to end.


  49. Guest Who says:

    OT, but TIME seems to have a few for BBC QT: Washington

    “That’s disgoostin’, MoFo… [bop]”


  50. StewGreen says:

    The claim that Spicer lied about The Inaurguration crowd keeps being made
    “Obvious in photos that there were more people in the Obama crowds”
    ‘So Spicer is pushing falsehood’ chant the BBC/MSM

    Yep to me it is reasonable for people at home to think that Spicer lied, given the info MSM GIVE them
    but how many times have we seen that stories have been spun ??
    …and the full context withheld ?

    But the actual transcript is here

    * The press conference was NOT a press conference* cos that is scheduled for Monday
    Rather it was an emergency briefing about false news.
    Spicer stated he had 2 examples

    #1 That a few correspondents had reported false-news that the Martin Luther King bust had been removed.
    That bit has been in no BBC /MSM reporting of the press meeting I’ve seen
    So that is a dead give away that Media is narrative building.

    #2 “photographs of the inaugural proceedings were intentionally framed in a way, in one particular tweet, to minimize the enormous support that had gathered on the National Mall”

    Then he does a lot of context
    But this is the crucial bit
    ” This was the largest audience to ever *witness* an inauguration — period — both in person and around the globe.”
    (#1 Certainly no one is disputing the TV audiences were bigger for Trump
    #2 He uses the word “witness” and that is different from “crowd size”)
    See people tell you that 2 different people cannot have 2 different truths
    BUT with semantics they can
    #1 Obama’s march parade CROWDS were far bigger
    #2 The actual number of WITNESS eyes on Trump’s oath could have been bigger

    Even the New York Times printed a photograph showing a misrepresentation of the crowd in the original Tweet in their paper, which showed the full extent of the support, depth in crowd, and intensity that existed.

    Extra point not reported
    Trump “didn’t have a CIA Director to be with him”, cos the Democrats won’t approve the nomination. Jesus why is no one reporting that ?