280 Responses to WEEKEND OPEN THREAD…

  1. Dr E says:

    Ofcom took over from the BBC Trust as the BBC’s new regulator on 3 April 2017.

    Ofcom is currently holding a public consultation on its proposals for the BBC’s operating license and measures to assess the BBC’s performance. This means you have a chance to have your say and perhaps influence the future regulation of the BBC. You can read the draft proposals and send your response through the following web page:


    I do recommend looking through at least the topmost pdf on the web page before responding. This sets out the material you are being asked to comment on and the ways in which you can submit your response; I’ll add a heads-up that the online response form has a 1000 character reply limit for each question.

    For what it’s worth my own response is reproduced below:

    Consultation Response

    I think there are two serious problems with Ofcom’s proposed regulation of BBC impartiality:

    1) At time of writing 9 of the 13 members of the Ofcom Content Board responsible for overseeing the BBC’s impartiality are ex-BBC employees, [A]. This is untenable. The arrangement is comparable to the hypothetical scenario of suing someone for libel only to arrive at the court to find that most of the members of the jury are ex-employees of the accused. This would never happen, for good and obvious reasons. In my opinion those charged with judging the BBC’s impartiality should be people with no previous employment at the BBC, and their judgments should not be subject to review by ex-BBC employees anywhere in the Ofcom management chain.

    2) The Ofcom employees charged with judging the BBC’s impartiality should not be based in London. Arguably BBC News has to be in London so as to be close to Westminster. However, as we saw in the EU referendum, the politics of London are very different from those of most of the rest of the country. Given that the BBC is supposed to be the British Broadcasting Corporation, not the London Broadcasting Corporation, and given that the BBC receives most of its license fee funding from outside of London, the rest of the country is entitled to a say in whether the output of the London based BBC News is impartial. In my opinion those charged with judging the BBC’s impartiality should be based in towns and cities (yes, plural) outside of London whose voting patterns, either individually or in aggregate, reflect the voting patterns of the nation as a whole. The individuals hired should be similarly screened to ensure that their political opinions, in aggregate, reflect the same.

    This latter point on diversity of political opinion might well be applied to the BBC itself:

    In 2012 the Guardian reported that a freedom of information request had revealed that the BBC’s most purchased newspaper was… the Guardian, with 59,829 copies purchased over an 11 month period in 2010-11, [B]. This needs to be put into context. In 2010 The Guardian had just 14.5% of the circulation of the broadsheet newspapers : Guardian 14.5%; Telegraph 33.3%; Times 24.5%; Financial Times 18.8%; Independent 8.9%, [C]. The BBC appears to be disproportionately fond of the Guardian.

    A letter in the Telegraph in 2010 reported that another freedom of information request had revealed that in 2004 the BBC spent the following sums (in pounds) on advertising for staff recruitment : in the Guardian, 231,944; in the Telegraph, 32,535; in the Times, 6,159, [D].

    This evidence suggests that staff ratios at the BBC may be skewed in favour of Guardian readers, and that BBC staff recruitment may have historically favoured Guardian readers. If so, this distortion may go a long way to explain why the BBC is now viewed by some as the “Broadcasting arm of the Guardian”, [E,F,G].

    In my opinion the BBC, and BBC News in particular, should be required to ensure that the statistical distribution of political views held by its employees reflects the statistical distribution of political views held by the nation it serves. Ofcom should ensure that this happens. Only when the distributions match, not just in mean, but also in shape, variance, kurtosis, and especially skewness, will the BBC be able to consistently produce impartial material.

    [A] https://tinyurl.com/mrs3y2s (ofcom.org.uk)
    [B] https://tinyurl.com/l7tmow8 (theguardian.com)
    [C] https://tinyurl.com/jfs6z25 (wikipedia.org)
    [D] https://tinyurl.com/lcawcea (telegraph.co.uk)
    [E] https://tinyurl.com/lh3qoqq (biasedbbc.tv)
    [F] https://tinyurl.com/37zyyfh (bbc.co.uk comment 12)
    [G] https://tinyurl.com/kf4mzvy (express.co.uk comment 2)

    Dr E
    14 April 2017


    • Fred Bloggs says:

      For the weeks coming up to OFCOM taking over, there was an entry on their website that wanted comments on how the BBC was to be regulated/criticised. I have not had any response to my entry.


    • Number 88 says:

      Very impressive. Well done Dr. E

      I will have my say over the week end.


      • Dr E says:

        Great stuff Number 88, and thanks.

        I meant to say that people have until 17 July 2017 to respond.
        Somehow that got lost in all my re-editing.


    • Fedup says:

      Dr.E you’ve done a public service just by highlighting what Ofcom is…thank you. So rather than the regular rant about BBC political agenda it’s probably better to look at what ofcom is.

      I looked at their website and was shocked by how many members are gravy train regulars as well as receiving taxpayers money through BBC pensions. Nothing will improve while the BBC knows it has a good friend in a quango like ofcom. No taxation without representation .


    • Guest Who says:

      Top post. Worthy addendum:



  2. ObiWan says:

    An excellent piece. The fact you are simply making the case for a BBC which accurately reflects the diversity of political opinion in the UK as a whole is what comes through. Sadly, the doctrinaire Marxist types at the BBC will not understand a word of it. The BBC is, after all, a job creation scheme for completely brainwashed left wing ‘meeja’ and ‘humanities’ grads. Yes, that’s the wall we always run into when trying to reason with them.

    But nice try.


  3. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Question time last night was awful.

    I wish someone had asked a question “Why has there NEVER been a Question Time panel with more leavers than remainers”
    I don’t know what Camilla blonde was but 3 remainers and 1 remainer Tory (although he says he will work for Brexit even though he voted against it) doesn’t make for good debate.

    If miller and her gang get their way for another referendum, will we be given the option of hard remain and soft remain, the euro and suchlike. They all seem keen to point out that we didn’t vote for this kind of Brexit or that kind of Brexit and basically that leavers were all idiots who didn’t understand what they were voting for anyway.
    All qt panellists keep getting away with saying this hard and soft Brexit and are seldom challenged.
    I so want someone to come out with some truths about the bias, live on the show.
    Nigel did once, on the leaders debates, and dimbleby almost swallowed his tongue. The neutral audience gasped in horror.


    • mikerophone says:

      Even many of those panellists that supposedly support Brexit, start by saying that they voted for Remain. They are not true ‘Leavers’.


      • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

        I wish someone from the ‘specially selected’ audience had brought up that the uk state pension is the lowest in Europe and considering we are told we are the 5th best economy in the world then something is very wrong with that.

        I know some places like maybe Albania will probably have a lower pension but the countries I mean are the proper western ones like France, Germany etc.


        • StewGreen says:

          UK pensioners are pretty rich, their pensions are not the lowest in Europe for a start.
          And anyway one has to take into account theFULL BENEFITS : eg free NHS and some free care home stuff.

          “There are 28 different state pension schemes in the European Union and the UK’s is not the worst. The UK pension will always be better than many EU pensions, and much better than a Slovenian or a Bulgarian one for example. But what everyone wants is something like the German or a Swedish pension.”
          Some pensioners are sitting on massive UNTAXED house price gains
          however with so called “living wage” and rates ..some of our costs are pretty high these days.


    • Fedup says:

      Mr Goldstein ,
      I’m in a bit of a quandary over QT . I stopped watching it because it was a weekly opportunity for selected BBC types with a token outsider to recite their lines , suck up to a Dimbleby and take the BBC expenses. Who watches it? Does it alter anybodies views? Is there much challenge to groupthink ? So apart from spotting politicians on the way up or down why bother with it? The leftie bias is so obvious now I don’t even think they claim neutrality anymore .


  4. Lobster says:

    Don’t you just love it when the PC crowd disappear up their own jacksies?
    First this : http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-39692673
    Then this : http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-39742670
    It’s beyond parody.


    • Lucy Pevensey says:

      So determined are they to find “racism” lurking in every nook & cranny they must continually invent it to keep the myth alive. Always overlooking their own of course.


    • Lock13 says:

      What about if you avoid eye contact with a blind person? do you have to dob yourself in ? or do you have to make eye contact with the dog?


    • Doublethinker says:

      This eye averting PC rubbish is as bad as the stuff going on in Canada where you have to use gender neutral pronouns like zi instead of he or she. Some Professor has been sacked because he refused to tow the PC line. He gave a truly frightening interview to Mark Styne , the sensible Canadian commentator, available on UTube, in which he made a powerful case that the English language was the current battle ground between a tolerant society where freedom of speech and expression were valued and a society run by fanatics who tolerate no dissent .


      • StewGreen says:

        Here’s that video
        BTW AFAIK Mark Steyn is British, but resident in Canada
        “13 Apr 2017 Mark explores what Daffy Duck used to call “pronoun trouble”.
        His guest is Jordan Peterson, a clinical psychologist at the University of Toronto whose entire career has been imperiled by his opposition to the new “non-binary” gender pronouns – such as “zhe”.
        Transgender activists and other politically correct enforcers have determined to destroy him.

        In this full-length interview, Steyn and Professor Peterson discuss the Orwellian perversion of language and the totalitarian impulses of social engineering.
        And Mark asks the big question: Is the jig up for western civilization?”


  5. nogginator says:

    Attn – Biased BBCers – report on Marine A
    Watched that this morning, my wife had subtitles on

    Now folks go quick before they rectify it.
    … racist BBC even on the subtitles

    Watch it on iplayer with the subtitles on, 1hr 47 minutes in
    the typist was thinking, aloud not about Marine A but about his QC
    why because he happens to be Jewish.
    Be quick, If someone can get a screen grab? that would be gold.


  6. StewGreen says:

    R4 More or Less
    – Boris : £350m … London as France’s largest city.
    – New Public holidays
    – are three million school kids at risk of going hungry this summer?
    Ans can’t say
    – William Sitwell, Lord Woolton’s biographer, explains how this working-class boy from Salford became a war hero (and President of the Royal Statistical Society).
    – claims that education spending is at “record” levels.
    – just how big is the “mother of all bombs”?


    • Guest Who says:

      BBC Facebook

      BBC Radio 4
      Ed Balls, the quiz

      They also have several more of their daily Trump hit pieces, for ‘balance’.


    • StewGreen says:

      Farage said on his radio show the other day, that he has never used the £350m
      Said during the campaign he immediately told Boris it was wrong to use that number as he would put it at £200m/week after accounting for British farm subsidies.
      He acted agnostic about the claim during the campaign cos he didn’t want to split the Brexit side.


      • AlexM says:

        I’ll repeat this until I am blue in the face, but those people who say the actual cost is lower than £350m a week because the government gets £150m a week back are missing the point. Sure, the government gets something back, but it also gets something back when it spends £350m a week extra in the NHS. It gets back all the income tax and National Insurance on the salaries, corporation tax on the profits of NHS suppliers, shortly thereafter it gets VAT and petrol duty on money spent by NHS employees and so on, so that the net cost is far lower than £350m, just like the money sent to the EU. So yes, if the government does save £350m a week gross and £200m a week net by leaving the EU, it probably can spend £350m on the NHS which will only cost it a net £200m a week after it gets all the tax back.

        And if any politicians or broadcasters are too thick to understand that, they should get another job.


        • Up2snuff says:

          Good example, AlexM. Keep going even if you get mistaken for a SNP supporter.


    • StewGreen says:

      Twitter people are saying MoL is wrong to say the rebate is the same as a discount.
      Cos the rebate comes one year after we have paid in.
      eg our rent is £100 with a rebate of 20% 12 months later
      Year1 Pay £100 get back nothing
      Year2 pay in £110 get rebate from last year of £20
      Year3 pay in £120 get rebate from last year of £22
      Year4 pay in £130 get rebate from last year of £24


  7. nogginator says:

    BBC News – Oxford sorry for racism claim
    “Oxford University has apologised for saying that avoiding eye contact could be “everyday racism” after it was accused of discriminating against autistic people.
    The claim was included in a list of “racial micro-aggressions” in an equality and diversity unit newsletter.
    But the university was criticised for being “insensitive” to autistic people who can struggle making eye contact”.

    Avoiding eye contact?, micro aggression?
    (shakes head), the Al BBC always has time and column inches for such shite.


    • Guest Who says:

      #TellMartyFeldman is currently inundated with calls from communities living in fear of looking at people the wrong way or… not looking at people the right way.

      Often both.


    • PeterT says:

      Yes, Mr Goldberg said “…the majority of British people…” but the subtitles read “…the majority of Jewish people…”

      They added “British people” afterward but still left the words “Jewish people” there. They should be taken to task for this. I got screen grabs but unable to upload them.



  8. StewGreen says:

    Poverty line is defined as people living with less than 60% of median income AFTER housing costs


    • StewGreen says:

      Of course if you were in real poverty your weight would be falling.


      • Up2snuff says:

        Not necessarily, Stew. Would take too long a post for me now to explain it all but rocketing transport costs of 1990s and 2000s probably (almost certainly) impacted on obesity and helped create whatever obesity crisis we do have. (I actually think it is played up by the BBC to be far worse than it really is, but that suspicion just shows how the BBC has lost its integrity as a News Organisation.)

        It’s all to do with producer costs, transport costs, type of foods that can be packaged, transport costs, nutritional values, transport costs, wholesaling and retailing practices, etc, etc, blah, blah and blah.


  9. Alex says:

    Surprise surprise. The whole sodding NHS is full of lefties… it has become an ideological haven for the far-Left. The BBC only too willing to peddle leftist myths…



    • johnnythefish says:

      Funny how they always manage to steer clear of their fat cat public sector pensions, which so far has unfunded obligations to the tune of £1.3 trillion, which will have to be paid by the taxpayer at some point (and that includes you whingeing left-wing Millennials and your offspring, and theirs, and theirs and….).


  10. Sinniberg says:

    Well, I’ve been keeping an eye on the BBC News website this week and they were certainly giving Labour the biggest piece of the cake.

    There were one or two token gestures towards the Conservatives but it isn’t worth mentioning.

    Then there was the one sole article they gave to UKIP but it was nothing more than a token story about them banning the Muslim Burka if elected.

    No, it was all about promoting Labour and what Labour was going to do.

    Mind you, the best thing I saw this week was this BBC Breakfast interview with Sgt Alexander Blackman’s(Marine A’s) Lawyer Jonathan Goldberg QC.

    The smug and treacherous attitude of the presenters is clear to see but wait for the killer blow at the end from Jonathan Goldman where he calls them out as “you’re paid to be controversial and bleeding hearts”.

    Charlie Stayt is almost choking with rage!.

    The Labour Bias from this week:

    General election 2017: Corbyn says Labour nuclear policy still ‘under discussion’.
    General Election 2017: Labour’s ‘day one’ pledge to EU nationals.
    Labour promises new plan for Brexit
    Labour promises pay rises for NHS staff.
    Brexit:  Labour’s Sir Keith Starmer wants talks over customs union.

    General election 2017: Where UK’s parties stand on Brexit.
    Notice the use of a Conservative sign half buried in the ground and that UKIP are placed BELOW the Greens.


    • ObiWan says:

      Had a good LOL at the video. It’s always a pleasant surprise when an interviewee strays off the agreed BBC narrative and gets in a few unexpected verbal punches.


      • Dover Sentry says:

        It’s the first time a lawyer has gone up in my estimation. Well done.
        He won’t be invited back.
        I was amused when he said that in a proposed Hollywood film, he would be played by Al Pacino. But added that Al was not as good looking!!


        • Oaknash says:

          Seeing that smart arse quisling presenter shown up by that lawyer for the devious, shallow and lightweight BBC Indentikit “bleeding heart liberal” that he obviously is bought joy to my heart.

          I consider that my small donation to Blackmans fund last year was probably the best value twenty quid I have ever spent!

          While wankers like this bloke was probably moaning about the price of his falafel and halloumi hot wrap in Pret a manger. The likes of Blackman was dodging bullets and probably wondering who whether he would be woken up in the middle of the night as his throat was being cut.

          There are few words that describe my utter contempt for this particular “BBC type” and the system that has spawned them. Well there are but all of them are pretty much unprintable.


    • StewGreen says:

      I noticed a strange thing this week.
      Each day on the R4 Today webpage it gives the days running order.
      Greens claim that UKIP is always on, and the GreenParty almost never.
      This is certainly not true as the show shoves the Green angle in yer face almost every day, usually via a celeb or BBC-Green.
      This week Jon Bartley of Green Party was on but not mentioned on the running order.
      And they wipe the running order from the previous eeek clean.
      WatO and PM don’t publish one you have to check their Tweets.


      • Restroom Mole says:


        But we know that UKIP gets exposure only as an Aunt Sally, that is to be ridiculed.


  11. Deborah says:

    Today programme on Friday morning leading with the research that the Cancer Fund was a waste of money. Is this the BBC who is only too keen to say how mean the government/Nice is not to allow certain cancer drugs to be paid for by the NHS? I certainly remember a couple of years ago a lot of publicity about a drug for kidney cancer being taken off the approved list. I can also remember a programme on the BBC where a cancer doctor was saying proudly that patients could be given an extra week or two of life if it meant they could attend a grandchild’s wedding or a special birthday party. Nobody asked the cost, or question how many nurses or hip replacements those extra weeks cost. But now, during a general election campaign, the BBC are only too keen to give the publicity to what they see as a criticism of a Tory government.


    • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

      Deborah, I think that as far back as I can remember there has always been money collection charity schemes for various cancer research projects.
      The total sum must be in the billions by now.
      Is there nothing to show for all this money donated for things like people doing a fun run in a bunny costume.
      Hasn’t all this money resulted in even one tablet or something, developed by charity donations as opposed to big drug companies.
      All we seem to hear is this or that drug is too expensive and will not be made available.
      Maybe all the research is given to the big pharma companies and they mass produce the drugs and stick a hefty price on it.
      Just what has happened to all the money collected and the research it paid for.


      • G.W.F. says:

        A lot of the money raised for cancer research has gone into importing genetically modified mice and injecting them with tumours before they are put to sleep.


    • Number 88 says:

      I listened to the Five Live phone-in on this, this morning…just for a few minutes, mind you, before it had to be turned off.

      The Beeboid was happy to spread the word that the nasty Tories had wasted money and had not reviewed performance…but things took a turn for the worse when some rang in to say how much they had valued the extra years that the Cancer Drugs Fund had given them.

      What was noticeable though, in the face of all of this positivity was Gameshow’s stand in’s attempt to belittle or minimise what had been achieved. There were so many ‘but patients were guinea pigs, but patients suffered side effects, but these were only trial drugs’, it was very clear where she was coming from and the picture that she wanted listeners to take.

      I particularly liked the contribution form the clinician who made the point that one of his patients was able to get advanced treatment…because in 2010, under the Labour government there was no cancer drugs fund provision.


  12. Beeb Brother says:

    RE: Question Time.

    Try applying to be on the show. They ask your ethnicity, how you voted in the election and two questions you would like to ask, amongst other intrusive things. Plus it is filmed in advance so even in the unlikelihood that someone strays from the script, it will be edited out. They try and make it look all accessible and spontaneous but it is anything but; it is all staged to get the desired lefty propaganda out and imply that most people think in their prescribed way, which of course they do not.

    Why not film it live with an audience who have all drawn lots to see who gets to attend? What could be more free, fair and impartial than that? What do they have to fear? Of course that would never happen.


  13. Beeb Brother says:

    Oxford University sorry for eye contact racism claim

    Is this officially the most ridiculous SJW Beeb story ever? My friend sent it and I assumed it was a spoof article from The Onion.


  14. Beeb Brother says:

    RE: Identity politics.

    I often get my nephews from school. In the playground I speak to parents of all creeds and races about our little ones; holiday plans; or whatever. Race never enters anyone’s head. We just want the best for our kids and have a friendly chat.

    According to lunatics like Al Beeb, I should approach every conversation with a non-white person with caution lest I ‘micro aggresse.’ I might have mentioned to this Indian mother once that I liked to have a curry on Sunday. Should she suddenly confront me over this ‘micro aggression?’ If I talk to a black father about football, should he say I am an ethnic stereotype that black men are good at sport? Of course they would not do that and no sane person would. Who on Earth thinks like Al Beeb? Who goes into ever encounter looking to be offended? Nobody gives a flying toss, minorities as well as ‘oppressors’ like me.

    The irony is that by constantly bringing up the subject of race and ‘cultural appropriation’ they draw attention to what they supposedly want to be invisible.


    • pertelote says:

      was this reported on al beeb?
      “Rochdale child sex ringleader launches appeal against deportation”

      “Paedophile Shabir Ahmed, 63, described by a judge as a “violent hypocritical bully”, has written to the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) claiming his convictions for child sex offences were a conspiracy to “scapegoat” Muslims, his immigration tribunal heard.”

      yeah yeah ..same old..from the ROP brigade…pure scum!!

      “Ahmed, who sat in the dock flanked by prison officers, told the court: “She (Theresa May) says all her trouble is coming from Muslims, yet she’s the biggest trouble causer in the world.”

      He said he was convicted by “eleven white jurors”, adding: “It’s become fashionable to blame everything on Muslims these days.”

      Indeed Ahmed..and I wonder why?

      On another subject altogether I have just been watching a repeat of “Rawhide”..great stuff from the 1960s:
      Keep movin’, movin’, movin’
      Though they’re disapprovin’
      Keep them dogies movin’, rawhide
      Don’t try to understand ’em
      Just rope ’em, throw, and brand ’em

      Hit ’em up..move ’em on..round ’em in..ship ’em out..rawhide” ..we’re talking cows (aka dogies)
      of course. (apologies to F.Laine)


  15. StewGreen says:

    FibDumbs Party Election Boadcast was full of fibs and Dumb
    It repeated the same SAD waking up day 3 times of a white/mixed-race couple
    – Referendum result “and prediction straight away that Cameron would resign (not true)
    – Trump Win
    – And Theresa May saying she would go for Hard Brexit/ Corbyn losing a vote of confidence
    It tried to say “Sick of the same bad day ? Well join the Lib Dems

    Cut to little Timmy Farron…. We are the true opposition” (err no your are not..more people vote for UKIP)
    Conservatives councillors 8642 Labour 6769 Liberal Democrats 1820 UKIP 438 SNP 401 Greens 176


    • StewGreen says:

      “Alienating 52% of Britain, good job Tim”

      “Vote for a LibDEm coucillor would have stopped he DEMOCRATIC election of Trump
      How would have any of those things be changed if you voted LibDems last time”

      “Ad portrayed woman as dippy
      stupid enough to keep overfilling coffee cups”


  16. StewGreen says:

    From FullFact
    “At least half of Remain voters were found to back some of what the research defines as components of a hard Brexit too. ”

    + \\if “hard Brexit” is defined as prioritising immigration control over free trade. A majority of Leave voters probably still support this//



    • StewGreen says:

      So on Hard Brexit
      Brexiteers : majority of Leave voters probably still support this
      Remainers : At least half of Remain voters were found to back some components

      Thus anti :Hard Brexit are a small minority.


  17. gaxvil says:

    Driving around our Third World Midlands roads that look like they’ve been shelled and desperately trying to avoid mayhem as we carry out weaving manoeuvres to avoid the craters, brought to mind the film of British troops building beautiful road in some far off foreign land.


    • Up2snuff says:

      Funny you should mention W. Midlands but please see my post replying to Stew Green about stewed greens or, rather, the lack of them, for the population of the W. Midlands. Highest obesity levels in the UK, if I recall correctly.

      Then there’s the economics – again – of high transport taxation, poor road surfaces and high pollution levels and the links between them.

      Uggghhh! Curse this grip economics is getting on me!


  18. nogginator says:

    BBC News – Paul Nuttell UKIP
    “Mr Nuttall says he has asked local branches around the country to stand aside for “the real Brexiteers”.
    Are these the vote leave guys? that along with now 30 Tory seats, also now under investigation. The Electoral Commission has begun an investigation into Leave.eu’s referendum spending return. This followed an assessment which concluded that there were grounds to suspect that potential offences under the law have occurred.
    Oh … The Information Commissioner’s Office (ICO) is also investigating Leave.eu for possible misuse of data.
    ie … So Paul con the public into voting for “the swamp”, ensuring it has more influence?, instead of draining it?. The shamefully corrupt, self serving, and utterly incompetent swamp that festers in No10?
    … Thought he was launching UKIP big today? not being Liar May s dog whistle


    BBC – Tiny Tim wants to talk about Brexit again today, Lib Dems want to talk Brexit, or stopping it more like because they don t want to talk about supporting the abject failure of “austerity”, cutting tax for hedge funds, increasing VAT, Tuition fees, and economic sanctions on the poorest and most vulnerable, bedroom tax hitting them again … all propping up the Self-servatives.


    • JimS says:

      OK we get it, you don’t like Conservatives. But what has that got to do with BBC bias given that the moment any (Conservative) government policy is announced the BBC will line up three people to tell us why it won’t work, often before it has been put ‘to the house’.

      Where did you get this ‘austerity’ idea? From the BBC or the Labour party? Government spending continues to increase, ‘cuts’ just means that they aren’t going to spend as much as the BBC would like. Hedge fund taxation – why does it bother you? if the fund gets bigger, so what? When the money gets taken out it will attract tax and also when it get spent. Increasing VAT: You mean the EU imposed tax that started at 10% has been down to 8% and up to 20%. Lots of rubbish claims about it because once imposed we can’t drop it below the lowest rate in the rest of the EU. Sanctions on benefits: If you are claiming benefits stick to the rules, simple. Bedroom ‘tax’, ah yes, bringing in the same rules to public housing as Labour brought in for private housing.

      All good stuff that one can have a debate about but absolutely nothing to do with BBC bias, just the other half of the BBC standard excuse, ‘complaints from both sides, so we got it right’, except that the ‘Conservative’ complainant says, “Why do you only make the Labour case?” and the ‘Labour’ complainant say, “Why don’t you push the Labour case harder?”


  19. G.W.F. says:

    Not strictly BBC related, but protecting Islam is their business. It is clear that the courts are taking a tough line on so called Islamophobic crimes which cause offence.

    Perhaps the offender was an arsehole and went too far, but the sentence conveys the message – do not argue with or upset Moslems



    • Thoughtful says:

      The guy is an idiot, a total fool. Instead of attacking and criticising Islam he attacked a single individual over & over again.

      He wasn’t jailed for the ‘islamofauxbia’ he was jailed because he harassed an individual in a way that was unacceptable.

      He got away with it the first time, but he just couldn’t stop himself doing it over & over & over again which crossed the line.

      To be honest I don’t think this will stop him, and unfortunately it has given Mughal the ammunition he needed to point to a campaign of Islamophobia.

      For 12 weeks the world will be a more peaceful place with Tim Burton behind bars !


      • Al Shubtill says:

        Quite right Thoughtful, those poor Muslims need all the breaks they can get.

        Let us only hope that they stick him on a Muslim dominated wing in a maximum security prison, like they did with Tommy Robinson or send him to the gaol the bacon rasher martyr was sent to.
        Then “the world will be a more peaceful place with Tim Burton…” in the ground.


    • 60022Mallard says:

      Unfortunately no comments section at the end.


    • nogginator says:


      • G.W.F. says:

        So he has been trolling and upsetting a well established person who has a powerful position within our legal system.

        Obviously a bad man who needs to be silenced


        • nogginator says:

          The thoroughly discredited Tell MAMA, controversial project claiming to measure anti-Muslim attacks did not have its government grant renewed after police and civil servants raised concerns about its methods, this dodgy Mughal guy?, Tell Mama did not mention, that 57 per cent of the 212 reports referred to activity that took place only online, mainly offensive postings on Twitter and Facebook, or that a further 16 per cent of the 212 reports had not been verified … and laughably not all of the so called online abuse even originated in Britain.

          Now it appears that just such claims not only are no problem to funding, but get you jail time too

          and … this guy gets the OBE!

          that’s lawfare for you, truly the world turned upside down


  20. Razza94 says:

    UK GDP Growth:

    +0.3% Q1 2017
    +0.2% Q1 2016
    +0.3% Q1 2015

    There is always a drop off after Christmas. The BBC are trying to suggest that the 2017 figures represent some kind of looming crisis.

    More fake news.


    • Scroblene says:

      So true, Razza.

      Of course trade dips and rises, it’s what makes a difference! Differences pay different sums.

      Of course, thick politicians – mainly from the left who don’t understand business, also don’t understand that simple economic fact.

      Whenever a stupid politician says something that a quick-minded entrepreneur can make a buck out of, he damned well will, and the thicko in Westminster won’t even realise until it’s far too late.


    • Number 88 says:

      That’s a 50% increase over the same period last year.


      • Up2snuff says:

        Dare I point out, as dear old Steffie* would have done, that the GDP figures get adjusted after first (and, I think, also after second ie. after first adjustment or correction) release?

        Pinning down a nation’s GDP is not an easy task for the ONS. Getting too excited about a Q’s numbers immediately on announcement is really not a good idea.

        * You probably will not hear that from poor old Kamal whose absence from the BBC at present may be his wishing to lower his profile or he is possibly searching for a new job. His ratings are not looking good these days.


  21. gaxvil says:

    Charlie Faulkner says if you don’t want a lurch to the Right you must vote Labour.
    Puzzling on many levels including the idea that the Conservatives are Right Wing.
    Heck, reckon the present lot, in many ways, would be too lefty liberal for Tony Blair.


  22. Thoughtful says:

    Well you knew it was coming:

    Austria’s far-left president, Alexander Van der Bellen, has suggested that one day all women must wear headscarves to fight Islamophobia.

    We have Anti Semitism in the Fascist Left already, but how long before they start turning their rage hate & bile against the gays?

    Here we see the true intention, to Islamise the country dressed up in the usual leftie hate speech * of course all leftie speech is full of hate, but that’s a given!

    I expect the same to be suggested here soon, and the BBC to be going wild over the prospect.


    • Up2snuff says:

      Is there not a way to subvert such an edict, Thoughtful?

      Could not men start wearing full face veils under Equality Laws? At what point would the authorities and police forces in such European States, stupid enough to go down that loony liberal route, start to become uneasy? Seem to recall most banks in UK politely ask customers to remove compulsory helmets when motorcyclists enter their branches as customers.


      • richard D says:

        I loved the suggestion I read the other day (on this blog, I think, so h/t to the original poster), where it was reported that some Scandinavian men might initially self-identify themselves as female, and muslim, don the full-face mask, and then take to the streets – toilets, banks, etc.

        Can you imagine the quandary facing officialdom, in all of its guises, going absolutely crazy, trying to find a way in the present febrile drive to allow self-identification to be paramount, to thwart such an act, and being filmed in the process by witnesses to any form of censure ?

        This is the descent into madness to which this country, and others, are headed. with the able and vociferous support of the beeboids at the BBC,


  23. Nibor says:

    Not BBC bias as such , just a thought they could ask .

    Yes , EU 27 countries we will let your citizens who arrived before 23 June 2016 stay here and work ~~provided our economy is in good health .
    In other words , you impoverish us and they go home .


  24. taffman says:

    I have noticed a few new posters here of late.
    The message that ‘Al Beeb is biased’ must be getting through to the nation. But when will our government do something about it?
    Still no posters about Al Beeb’s Right Wing Bias though?


  25. StewGreen says:

    Are these people arrogant or humble ?
    “As fake news is eroding trust in media reporting,
    even *high quality outlets*
    have found their editorial integrity called into question”
    Jesus they think we haven’t been questioning them for decades

    Features :
    – The Economist editor
    – BBC Head of Editorial Partnerships and Special Projects
    (who also works for a Green NGO)


    • Sluff says:

      Head of Editorial Partnerships and Special Projects.
      Or HERPES for short !


    • Oaknash says:

      Stew – “High quality prostitutes” would be nearer the mark.
      They are expensive, lazy and good at faking!

      Certainly the case with Aunty.


  26. Deborah says:

    Look North for Yorkshire and the Humber seemed very kind to Paul Nuttall tonight, after all he MAY be standing in Boston. I presume they want to split the non Labour vote. I also noticed that the sitting MP was never mentioned. However I sometimes get the feeling that the only MP Peter Levy ever mentions on Look North is Diana Johnson, MP for Hull North. She appears far more than even Alan Johnson (assume no relation), i.e on so frequently Mr D keeps a running tally.


    • StewGreen says:

      Yes I saw it
      Jumping the gun is a BBC speciality
      ..They wasted BBC resources doing vox-pops in Boston


      • taffman says:

        “..They wasted BBC resources doing vox-pops in Boston”
        They waste resources – full stop!


      • taffman says:

        “Reality Check: Has a city the size of Newcastle come to the UK?”
        “Reality Check verdict: Mr Nuttall is about right on the net figure but the gross figure is lower than he says, according to the best estimates we have.”
        Whatever the figure , it is still far too many . More houses required, more schools required, more infra structure, hospitals etc etc .
        And finally, more integration required from a people that just don’t integrate.


        • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

          Taff, the population of Newcastle is about 220,000.
          How does that fit in with the net 330,000 enrichers.
          If you were to include all the ones not known about that are coming in and if you were to use the correct number of incoming enrichers instead of the figures they want you to believe, I would say it’s more like 2.5 newcastles net.


        • theisland says:

          Integration working well in Sweden


  27. Dystopian says:

    OMG shock horror! BBC news showing footage of Americans praising President Trump.


  28. Sluff says:

    I note today the juxtaposition of the Oxford Uni eye contact bollocks and the more serious story of the surgeon carrying out unnecessary breast cancer surgery.
    The link is the apparent desire of people these days to be labelled as victims.

    For example, what Trauma did the surgery victims suffer when actually undergoing treatment that a genuine cancer patient would not suffer? Is not a mastectomy of itself a form of mutilation? Does its necessity as treatment actually make a difference to that description? Is a genuine cancer sufferer walking around after surgery attached to two drain bottles for a fortnight and unable to get into a comfortable sleeping position less worthy of our sympathy?,
    Don’t get me wrong. What the guy did was unforgivable and the women affected should be entitled to some recompense, but are they saying they would rather have had cancer?
    Or is being a victim the real badge of honour these days?
    Especially when accompanied by extremely large cheques.


    • Zelazek says:

      You’re being a little hard on the surgery victims, Sluff. I think this group of people really are victims deserving of our sympathy. Still, this sad episode has helped us identify a new way to make efficiency savings in the NHS – jail all the misogynist surgeons who are performing unnecessary operations.


      • taffman says:

        “jail all the misogynist surgeons who are performing unnecessary operations.”
        Are there more ?


        • Zelazek says:

          Taffman – My suspicion is that there are probably quite a few more out there. Because this guy was able to perform hundreds of operations before being detected, I don’t feel confident that the strictest checks and balances are in place to root out surgeons like him.


        • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

          If these women are going to get compensation for unnecessary surgery, there is a goldmine awaiting any enterprising young lawyer out there willing to take on the 100’s of 1,000’s who have had FGM done to them.
          Of course, he would probably get some head surgery himself if he dared to try anything against the rop.


  29. Sluff says:

    OMG. I actually heard 5 minutes of the Jeremy Vine show.
    In it, the focus was on pressure groups who want the state to provide free sanitary protection for young women having periods.
    Vine’s craven sympathy for the cause and the callers was absolutely nauseating.
    Credit to one lady caller who pointed out that such expenditure should be the first priority fir a family ahead of the new super HD TV, fags, booze, etc.
    But listening to the statist bBBC openly sympathising with yet another ‘good cause’ requiring yet more public spending just made me want to smash the radio pdq.


    • Deborahanother says:

      I find it astounding that young people and some not so young are prepared to hand over so much to the state. If everything is given free why would people strive to improve their lives .
      I absolutely loved being independent and looking after myself.I still don’t like the state in my life unless its unavoidable and I have brought up my children the same .


    • Number 88 says:

      It puzzles me sometimes, when the hard left that have infiltrated Labour criticise Blair and describe him as a traitor. Blair and Brown between them did so much in their thirteen years to disrupt our culture and damage the very fibre of Britain with their control freakery and a big government that stopped people thinking and taking responsibility for themselves.

      We are now left with this crap. There was more evidence last week when the left were calling for free food for families where free meal schoolkids were suffering ‘school holiday hunger’.

      Sometimes I think that we should all give up.


    • Old Goat says:

      Has Mr. Vine not got in the way of an HGV, on his bike, yet? I live in hope…


  30. Alex says:

    Yet more Trump critique from the irrelevant, snooty and leftie right-on Newshite. Utterly pathetic leftie bias. They pine for their Obamessiah.


  31. BRISSLES says:

    I know UKIP are melting quicker than chocolate, but they are pushing for the Burka to be banned, despite the usual twats shouting racist.

    Interesting then, to discover that the woman shot by police, just happened to be wearing a Burka ! (of course it could be a chap in disguise). So what IS it that those who chant ‘racist’, don’t get ??? Does a member of their family have to be blown up/murdered by default before the penny drops that Islam needs to be eradicated from our society and way of life ?

    Much has it pains me to say it, but there needs to be a catastrophic event in this country before the pc brigade AND the media finally come around to accepting that there is actually a problem !


    • Zelazek says:

      Brissles – I don’t think catastrophic events will have any effect on them until they are personally impacted. In the French election I was surprised at the relatively low level of support for Le Pen given that France has suffered several “catastrophic events” in the last couple of years. Then I saw a map of France showing the areas where Le Pen did well. These tend to be in the eastern half of the country in regions with high numbers of immigrants. Native French people in those areas who see the transformation of their communities every day of their lives seem to vote for Le Pen. Those who live in immigrant-free western areas of the country like Brittany are insulated from the problem and don’t seem to want to vote for her, no matter how many atrocities are committed elsewhere in France. Seeing a terrorist outrage on TV appears not to have the profound impact that feeling like a stranger in the town you were born and brought up in has.


      • Oaknash says:


        Le Pen said of Macron “He is an arsonist that pretends to be a firefighter”
        What a quote! I think the establishment globalists in France must now be having a few sleepless nights. She must now present a clear threat to the planned cosy establishment stitch up.

        Because many of her policies are quite socialist it is likely that she may well pick up some votes from the left, who are concerned about immigration but at heart are still socialists.

        It is a pity that UKIP in this country has been so effectively sidelined in this country by a combination of its own internal divisions and establishment/media hostility and plotting. The one effective leader (and debater) they had (Farage) was effectively pushed out to be replaced by a far less capable individual.

        Unfortunately we still need somebody to keep effective pressure on Theresa over the negotiations. And I am afraid that so far Nuttall does not seem up to the mark. Lets hope Nigel can still do this from Europe.


      • Doublethinker says:

        Good post. The refusal of people, not just in Western France, but right across Europe including the UK, to accept that what happens in Nice , or Paris, or Brussels , is going to keep on happening and get closer and closer , is astonishing. I remember a while back someone posted on this site a video of an American girl asking how many people had to die before Europeans woke up. Well it looks as though the answer is a hell of a lot. In fact there must be a chance that we Europeans never awake from our liberal left MSM induced slumber until we are compelled to visit the Mosque at gun point.


        • BRISSLES says:

          Well said D/thinker, this would sadly appear to be the truth.

          I’ve said before that Islam has ‘no one in charge at the top’ in the same way that the Pope, Archbishop of Canterbury, Chief Rabbi’s etc, have responsibility for their own faiths; instead there are mealy mouthed Immans who are either inciting their flock to more fundamental radicalisation, or who are so limp wristed they have no clout. As a result we have millions of Muslims around the world practising their faith akin to toddlers running the nursery !


        • ID says:


          The Germans seem to be sinking into an even deeper coma. I have just been watching Weltspiegel on a German BBC showcasing Soviet-style ” a glorious achievement of our multiculturalism’. Arsalan Fateh is a policeman on the beat in Karlsruhe A 22 year old Afghan refugee, neatlty big-bearded, who is not actually a German citizen. This is the implementation of the masterplan to deploy immigrant policemen as “cultural intermediaries” between the German justice system and vibrant communities from Lebanon, Albania, Kosovo, etc. The camera followed Arsalan on the beat with his politically correct female partner. One angry nativist accosts the duo to tell them “They were doing nothing to fight crime and the police was being infiltated by wogs (Kanaken)” Both officers agreed nothing like this had ever happened before. In another incident, Arsalan notices something suspicious about three young “men”. They give chase and stop the young men. They refuse being searched and are “diisrespectful and aggressive”. The duo call for help and another 10!! officers turn up to “contain the situation by a show of overwhelming force”. It turns out that Arsalan’s instincts were correct one of the young men was a Kosovan wanted for 20 robberies. Strangely, Arsalan ends the piece by saying that his Migrationshintergrund did not play any role in this incident. It is difficult to work out the point of anything in the Merkel Madhouse


          • Rob in Cheshire says:

            Are the Germans meant to be grateful that they now have to employ immigrants to police immigrants?


  32. taffman says:

    Where does your Telly Tax go?
    This may go some way in helping to explain ……….


  33. taffman says:

    Where does your Telly Tax go?
    This may go some way in helping to explain ……….
    But they still love their employer ……….


    • Scroblene says:

      Thanks for these links, Taffman.

      Daring to be bored stiff, I read them (well, it is early morning and time to spare), and saw that the whole lot was all about ‘rights’, cash, job security, taking more from pensioners, ‘managers’ etc….

      And bugger all about quality and how they’re dealing with their crappy programmes, biased news and a general disdain for the public who are forced to cough up for such awful ‘service’.


    • Doublethinker says:

      It’s not value for money that I want from the BBC. What I want is total impartiality and the best way to achieve that is to get rid of the corporation altogether. I realise that what follows stems desperation and is daft, but I would continue to pay the LF in full , provided that the BBC didn’t broadcast anything at all. The employees could be paid in full for doing nothing , not even having to turn up to work. That would be great value for money and Britain would benefit enormously from paying 4 billion in tax and getting absolutely nothing in return from the BBC.


      • Up2snuff says:

        DT, I am a victim of the BBC. I demand compensation. They have cut off the impartiality I expect from them. They have cut off my TV. They cut off good programming. Last year they cut off my iPlayer. They have cut off my expectation of good, thorough, intelligent journalism.

        I have suffered a thousand cuts at the hands of the BBC. I demand £4m in compensation! I am a victim!


  34. Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

    I was so reassured this morning, to hear Simon Fanshaw tell us on the sofa the news that the terrorist arrested in Downing St was not all bad.
    He was actually on the infamous aid convoy the evil Israelis turned back from Gaza, and not only that, but his family were the ones who informed the police he was about to do something.

    Now I can sleep soundly in my bed.


    • Deborahanother says:

      I cannot stand Simon Fanshaw.Hes one of the reasons I no longer watch. Nice taxpayer funded work if you can get it.
      Same with Dateline .It used to be a very interesting watch ,years ago,with a good discussion from all perspectives.Now its a lefty love fest and Trump bashing session.


  35. anonjoebloggs says:

    BBC news this morning, the paper review.

    Talking about the French election, the person reviewing the papers says “let’s hope the fascists don’t win”… then comes out with “the far right should I say”.

    Cue long camera shot of both presenters not having a clue how to react to that. Should they provide balance, was the bias too obvious? In the end they move on to the next topic without further comment.

    It boils my blood they use my money to tell others what to think in such a biased way with no balance. People who aren’t as interested in politics as us form their opinions based on these snippets of ‘news’. It is brainwashing propaganda, simple as that.


    • Guest Who says:

      Quells horreur.

      Still, the BBC QT producers are on the phone now with a panel offer.


    • anonjoebloggs says:

      Does anyone keep video evidence of the bias or do copyright laws prevent you from doing so?


  36. Rick Bradford says:

    The Canadian academic Jordan Peterson has an interesting analysis of people whom he calls the “ideologically possessed”.

    The ideologically possessed, he says, have a small set of axioms (no more than 5 or 7), from which everything follows, and which generates all their content, without the need for any further thought on their part. For example, the BBC has 2 axioms:
    1. Elites know best; the peasants know nothing
    2. Success equals oppression: Oppressors are therefore White (western) people, male, Christian (or Jewish), heterosexual. Corollary: All minorities are victims; non-White, Muslim, women, the gender-confused.

    Given those, everything the BBC does makes sense. From axiom 1:

    * Brexit referendum result should be ignored
    * Democracy has failed us and should be revised
    * Supranational bureaucracy governments (EU), or one world government is good
    * Our opponents are stupid, brainwashed, or occasionally just evil

    From axiom 2:
    * Immigration, especially Muslim, is good
    * Gender must be balkanised
    * Religion (except Islam) must be vilified
    * Find racism, sexism, homophobia, Islamophobia in everything.
    * Reason and rationality are oppressive in themselves.

    (Peterson, incidentally, has become a hate figure in some Canadian circles for refusing to be coerced into using “gender-neutral pronouns” such as ‘zi’ and ‘zer’ instead of he, she, him, her.)


    • GCooper says:

      An interesting post, thank you.


    • Doublethinker says:

      A neat way of understanding the mind set of the liberal lefties, which has puzzled me for a long time. Perhaps the first axiom should read , for the sake of clarity, ;
      ‘ liberal elites know best, peasants know nothing and if you are not a thick peasant, but not a member of my gilded liberal left globalist elite either , you are a fascist.’


      • Rick Bradford says:

        Yes, that’s the ‘evil’ bit.

        Take the signature Leftist issue of global warming.

        If you don’t buy into imminent planetary thermageddon, you are either a dumb peasant who can’t understand the issues, someone who has listened to Fox News and been brainwashed, or a member of the evil Big Oil cartel who understands the dangers but ignores them in the name of immediate personal greed.


        • Rick Bradford says:

          Further to the above, you may have read that there was a ‘March for Science’ across the US recently, focusing on the climate change thing.

          Underscoring that this was nothing more than another part of the Leftist agenda were the signs on display at the march.

          “Things to stop denying the existence of: Climate change, White privilege, Male privilege, Environmental racism, Hetero privilege, CIS privilege”

          and of course:

          “Not even Hitler doubted climate change”


        • DElfman says:

          The Arctic Ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some places the seals are finding the water too hot, according to a report to the Commerce Department yesterday from Consulate at Bergen Norway

          Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers all point to a radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard-of temperatures in the Arctic

          Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes.

          Soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters showed the Gulf Stream still very warm.

          Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report continued, while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared.

          Very few seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while vast shoals of herring and smelt which have never before ventured so far north, are being encountered in the old seal fishing grounds.

          Within a few years it is predicted that due to the ice melt the sea will rise and make most coastal cities uninhabitable.


          I neglected to mention that this report was from November 2, 1922, as reported by the AP and published in The Washington Post – 94 years ago.

          This must have been caused by the Model T Ford’s emissions or possibly from horse and cattle flatulence?

          Click to access mwr-050-11-0589a.pdf

          Originally posted by John(Magnum)


  37. tomo says:


    Things you won’t see on the State Broadcaster ….

    Emily Thornberry (presently shadow Foreign Secretary) partying up with sponsor Martyn Day who screwed £10 million in public funds to run a fraudulent series of prosecutions against squaddies. Al-BeeB / m’lerned frenz are being *very* quiet indeed about Phil Shiner and Co. too.

    Cheers! – mines a double!


  38. Beeb Brother says:

    I see Fivelive are reporting in their news bulletins on the Romanian tennis coach apologising for his ‘racist’ joke. It annoyed me when they reported on this ‘news’ a week ago, yet they are still running with it? Should we have a judge led inquiry into the joke? How about a docu-drama about the harrowing incident?

    Never mind that there were two separate terrorist incidents on Thursday.

    The way to hell is paved with good intentions. Al Beeb have created the environment where terrorists are free to openly plan terrible things and nobody dares say anything in case it is ‘racist.’


  39. G.W.F. says:

    Move over BBC and bugger off with your TV tax.
    Rebel UK will expose you


  40. G says:

    The recent Westminster Bridge incident: Metropolitan Police – “We must all accept that there is a possibility we will never understand why he did this. That understanding may have died with him.”
    No longer. The Police and that statement quoted by the BBC and the rest – is now contradicted – just minutes before Masood began the rampage in which five people died and 50 were injured, the Muslim convert messaged that he was waging jihad in revenge against Western military action in Muslim countries in the Middle East.


  41. StewGreen says:

    130 more child refugees to be admitted
    The gov admitted 350
    And then found
    “One region pledged 130paces which were not accounted for
    Times pg6


  42. StewGreen says:

    Radio 4 YouTube Virtual Reality drama


  43. StewGreen says:

    Building false narrative that BBC is biased towards the Conservatives.


  44. StewGreen says:

    LGBT Domestic abuse charity collapsed
    Of £1.4m taxpayer funds Most of it went to it’s leader and her wife.


    • chrisH says:

      Ta for this Stew.
      KNEW there`s been some scandal akin to Kids Company that would put the likes of Letwin and Clegg in a bad light…only the Telegraph noted it in the press I thought.
      Also knew that-unlike the BBC squauking about the Tories wasting loads of money on useless cancer quangos-THIS scandal involving gays and BBC favoured pervies would NOT get the Panorama team off the drugs and dildoes and out to look into what had happened.


  45. EUTV says:

    Watched a recording last night of a recent ‘Tonight’ on ITV.

    The program is looking at ex-pats living elsewhere in the EU.

    I had to laugh as one chap said living in Spain was wonderful and just like back in the good old days in England. ‘You don’t even have to lock the door’ he brags.

    Reporter missed the opportunity to tell him that those days are gone, you can’t expect to live in the past, the 50’s and 60’s weren’t all the good. They could have reminded how him how racist and intolerant we were back then, why would you want wind back the clock sir?

    But I guess only the residents of England are unrealistic for wanting things to be like they used to be.

    I did however enjoy the guy who said something alone the lines of ‘I don’t live in England and I respect the decision my fellow Brits made, after all they are the ones who must be losing out’.

    It was sickening to see people claiming we have to stay in because when they left the UK nobody told them there was a risk of the UK leaving the EU.


    • Old Goat says:

      Didn’t see that – but I can confirm that in this pleasant little nook of France Profonde, we don’t lock the house, or the cars, we can leave anything outside, safely, in the knowledge that it’ll still be there later/in the morning. No charge for parking in the local town, and it IS rather like the rural Former UK would have been like in the fifties. Comparative bliss. I wouldn’t go back to my mother country for anything other than a family funeral (and there are very few of them left) for all the tea in China (or all the sauvignon in the cellar).

      It’ll see me out, here, Brexit/Frexit, or not.


  46. StewGreen says:

    BBC world Service Radio
    3 episodes of LifeChangers
    So far all BME men


  47. BRISSLES says:

    …because when they left the UK nobody told them there was a risk of the UK leaving the EU……

    For many years my career in property led me to selling property abroad. Mainly on the Spanish Costas. Those buying to retire gave little thought to what would happen in the UK after they left, their main concern was their pension and how far it would go in their adopted home. Many burned their bridges and sold up entirely to fund their new found lifestyle; but I encouraged them to at least buy a bolt-hole in this country, because the chances were that one of them would die, and the Costas can be a lonely place for a singleton in a community of couples. Some took the advice but most went blindly ahead – so the point of ‘nobody told them’ shows the short sightedness and lack of intelligence in seeing the bigger picture when faced with a living environment of 90% sunshine, when we all know that nothing remains the same.

    As for the 50’s and 60’s not being all good, well I remember it being more positive than negative. We may have advanced in many areas, including medicine, but conversely our hospitals are a lot filthier now than back then; technology is galloping ahead at the expense of family meals around the table; if any one person was raped it was national news not an everyday occurrence; the Pill stopped the need for back street abortions; oh and in 1953 when I was 5 years old I started in the infants school – I was taken by my Mum on the first day to show me the way, and I went on my own (as did hundreds of others)forever after that, compare that to now when 15 year olds are still being ferried in cars – all due to these pornographic times of ‘stranger danger’.

    I won’t deny we were ‘racist and intolerant’, to the Irish, Blacks and Gypsies, but certainly no more so than today. Personally I don’t think racism will ever be eradicated, even in 100 years, its the nature of the beast; there will always be a sector that will remain unwelcome and be pilloried because of it. So all the catawauling / protesting / screaming like fishwives the chant of ‘racist’ won’t make the slightest bit of difference – people just shrug their shoulders and move on.


  48. Thoughtful says:


    This is worth bearing in mind when the BBC start promoting it as they inevitably will do.

    Over recent months considerable global attention has focussed on the issue of immigration, but most of this discussion has centred on political developments. What is less well understood in the general community is the extent to which the ‘open borders’ philosophy has captured elite policy-making circles around the world, a phenomenon evident here as much as anywhere else.

    The intellectual origins of the open borders movement are relatively recent, with real lift-off occurring in the 2000s through an odd combination of radical Left groups in Europe and economists in North America. In Europe, radical Left groups took the principle of freedom of movement within the European Union and extended it to the utopian aim of abandoning all borders across the globe and granting people the right to live wherever they wish. The British Communist Party, for example, now lists global open borders as a moral imperative and key political goal. Roughly parallel with the rise on the extreme Left, a number of economists, mostly working in the United States, started claiming borders to be inefficient barriers to people movement and modelling what they saw as the resulting economic costs from a global misallocation of resources. Economists form the intellectual core of the growing Open Borders movement advocating the end of migration restrictions.

    We are having demonstrated in this article that the open borders commitments are a product of the extreme Left, and as the BBC are promoting open borders that would make the BBC a bias towards not just the left but the extreme Left.

    Hillary Clinton spoke of her ‘dream’ of hemispheric open borders

    A world without borders would be Mad Max mayhem rather than Rousseauian picnic, and the anarchy unleashed by uncontrolled migrating masses would see global economic activity plummet.

    The end product of the open border economic assumptions, mistaking volume for prosperity, is a permanent ratchet towards convergence with less developed countries. A slide towards the status of a middle-income country is quite possible even as economists tout the higher overall GDP.


  49. chrisH says:

    It`s all a matter of perspective isn`t it?
    Anybody mug enough to listen to the BBCs caterwaulings over the “united, terrifying and truly scary EU” as it “threatens to crush the life out of this putrid dismal little island of no consequence” with “massive bills” and with ” all manner of nastiness”-and all for DARING to exercise its vote and entitlement to leave the poxy flophouse that is the EU?-well, I can only pity them if they REALLY think that the EU will be any kind of threat. Unless it rolls over onto us by way of cot death.
    FFS-have a look at the BBcs damned pictures.
    1.A drunken incoherent and clearly useless Juncker-who needs Tusk as a sibling saviour lest his kidneys pack up.
    2.Little Hollande up on his cantilever cuban heels and yapping at nothing much-Peter Galzes body double will be gone soon, so wht the hell has HE got yo scare us with.
    3. The E.U will be gone soon-incoherent economic chaos via the Italian banks withing a few years if not civil war with the coming Islamic atrocities that will inevitably follow with Macron.
    4. This so-called “united front” of the E.U is a prepaid padded draft piece of pus hanging from Verhofstads dick…it represents nothing and means nothing. Orban, Klaus and the rest of New Europe will see that. So the BBC have NOTHING to tell us-they only suck the EU behind the velvet drapes, as their fat flatulent wizard affects some kind of relevance, moment or purpose in this world, 2017.
    Piss off BBC…stop the shadow puppets and trying to scare us with YOUR E.U prepaid moanings. The EU will be gone soon,and you lot of quislings will have to beg to get onto Eurovision then.
    And as we all know-the BBC have absolutely NO influence anymore-just flake news from their rancid flagsheep programmes.


    • Doublethinker says:

      The Remain plan for this election, developed in full consultation with the EU big wigs ,is a continuation of Project Fear. The aim is to limit the size of the Tory majority so that the fight to Remain can continue in the HoP. If the majority can be limited to less than 50 then the Remoaners will claim lack of legitimacy for hard Brexit. Once the majority is hundred plus all such claims re legitimacy are blown away.
      The tactics are to :
      Promote the EU as an invincible block determined to crush little , isolated post Brexit Britain .
      Promote discord in the UK by hyping up the Scots Nasties and the incendiary inclusion of a united Ireland in the never ending list of EU demands.
      Promote the adoption of tactical voting to limit the Tory majority.
      Needless to say the BBC and most of the rest of the MSM are fully on board with the plan.


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