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“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVJXmhsYKT4 - MarkyMark Nov 21, 13:41
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“How John Prescott blazed a trail for Angela Rayner” https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy1k1k3x1no blazed a trail blazed a trail “Rayner defends using donor’s… - digg Nov 21, 13:40
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It seems the International Criminal Court has been infiltrated and taken over by Islamist activists. The latest totally ridiculous moves… - MarkyMark Nov 21, 13:37
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200 people ….. no wonder people love them .. FREE PARTIES …..”Abbott, Diane 03/10/2008 London Schools/Black Child Awards Reception 200… - Fedup2 Nov 21, 13:20
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World at one The BBC have put naughtiePLC back on his lead after drowning in the Trump victory – now… - vlad Nov 21, 13:10
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The Tate brothers are a couple of controversial ‘influencers’ who don’t fit neatly into the usual left/right, progressive / traditionalist… - Lucy Pevensey Nov 21, 12:55
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MarkyMark,
MY comment was really the first cos you’re just copying and pasting.
Mine…..
I will leave a comment next time on the previous comment so that my comment is the first comment to comment on the last comment. I think then I will be in serious contention to have had the first comment about a comment that was a comment but might be my comment. … i think ….
I laugh in the face of what you just said whatever it was you said or meant you said you cheat.
Where’s Lobby ???? we’ve both been slow off the mark here. (still crawling up the beach no doubt)
Sorry I’m late Brissles, the bloody tide went out and I got stranded!
Oh I’ve been babbling on the old thread for the whole afternoon
including finding out that on Sept 13 R4Today had an episode where they flew Nick Robinson to California for the new iPhone launch so the show resembled a 3 hour.
Breitbart have got this story before the bbc because I haven’t seen it yet on their homepage.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/10/05/rotherham-council-tipped-social-worker-year-award/
Do read the comments. Really, do. There is going to be something “elemental” exploding in our society in the not too distant future.
“Reminds me of Saudi Arabia getting a seat on the UN Human Rights Commission…” {breitbart.com}
“…My opinion is that the UK is screwed. If we survive another generation rape will be all but normalised. But I suspect we as a nation, and the West in general in going down the path to civil conflict, as soon it will become obvious to all, that what is happening is all deliberate.”
Yes, it CANNOT but be an engineered process we are witnessing.
Agreed, re engineered….This is sick, sick, SICK ! The comments by the social worker are absolutely damning. If there isn’t some kind of populist revolt in the West, ladies and gentlemen, we’re going DOWN.
I wonder how John Humphries will handle this if the award is actually made (story could be a spoof and requires careful verification) and it comes up on the TODAY Programme when he is on duty?
In the old days, it would be something like this that would have him exploding all over the airwaves but now I’m thinking it will just merit a bit of brief puzzlement and they will move on.
Up2, While doing a search on the credibility of the Rotherham Social Worker story I came across the Community Care website which lists all the people who are up for the awards. Some of the categories are sponsored by Councils. I’d like to know in what form this sponsorship is provided because with local authorities claiming they don’t have money for this and that, I find it rather odd that they can provide any form of support even if its just a packet of biscuits. As for awards, I get up, go to work and every week my boss pays me for doing my job. Simple really.
P.S. The shortlisting for Rotherham is on the above mentioned site.
Thanks for checking that, Synch. You make two very good points, in addition.
Syn
There was a mini scandal a little while ago because celebs were being hired by councils to give these meaningless awards and being paid shedloads of taxpayers money for doing so when any decent person might have thought they were doing out of the goodness of their hearts .
Similarly to when the late terry wogan was found to being paid money for doing some al beeb love in – think it’s the one with the teddy bear wearing a bandage .
Remember, who you don’t mention that’s important to the BBC £3.5bn News Service … In July, after pressure from Ican, 122 nations adopted a UN treaty designed to ban and eventually eliminate all nuclear weapons. But none of the nine known nuclear powers in the world – including the UK and the US – signed up. {bbc.co.uk 06oct2017}
– Why not mention all nine countries BBC, but make it look like the USA and UK are the baddies?
USA; UK; Russia; France; China; India; Pakistan; North Korea; Israel {wiki} – dear BBC, I used Wiki to help to!
– Why not mention all nine countries who did not sign up BBC?
– Here you go BBC, rather than saying ‘none of the nine’ why not type: USA; UK; Russia; France; China; India; Pakistan; North Korea; Israel.
– In the story, ICAN get Nobel Prize for getting countries with no nuclear arms to say they don’t want nuclear arms?
I wouldn’t be surprised if Phil Hammond is really regretting switching the Budget from Spring to Winter right now.
I wonder if the BBC will ask him about that?
Vine on radio 2 being a vile nasty piece of work to the tory. Hectoring , interrupting, sneering and talking all over him. when that didnt work he had to ask him what his majority was at the election. He knew but he was trying to stick the knife in. Brought up Charlie mullins of pimlico plumbers who is asking for may to go. What vile didnt tell the audience was that mullins is a multi millionaire rabid remainer and was with Gina millar last year in court in her bid to stop brexit. Vile signed off saying theres a tory who is loyal to May as if it was a bad thing.
Seeing as Hillary will be on Nortons show maybe its going to go something like this. Hold that food down people
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tD2eAiD7fs
Trump winning was so exquisitely delicious on so many levels.
I can still hear the whistling of the bullet we just missed though.
“… the funny side note that people don’t know is that, Hillary when she brought those letters home (signed by female stars), Bill asked if they came with phone numbers.” @1:17 {youtube tucker}
Interior Minister Gerard Collomb made it official. France is “in a state of war”. {frontpagemag.com 06oct2017}
“French casualties in France are worse than in Afghanistan. The French lost 70 people to Islamic terrorist attacks in Afghanistan. And 239 to Islamic terrorist attacks in France.
The French losses in Afghanistan were suffered in over a decade of deployment in one of the most dangerous Islamic areas in the world. The French losses in France were suffered in less than two years.
There’s something very wrong when Afghanistan is safer than Paris.
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Operation Sentinelle has deployed twice as many French soldiers to France as to Afghanistan. And French casualties in the Islamic war at home have been far higher that they were in Afghanistan.”
* from a game shot, but fiction becomes non-fiction. 1984 book moves from fiction to non-fiction.
From Comments Section ….
– We have at least one conservative in this government then? Thank the Lord.
– Free markets are only as moral as the people who operate in them, which is why they are bound to fail in post-Christian secular societies.
“It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own interest.”
I could listen to J R-M for hours, and there aren’t many other politicians I can say that about.
And…look at Fatty Lammy nodding in agreement with JRM’s conclusion…he’s just trashed the case for Socialism…and Fatty agrees….?…go figure…Lammy is a simpleton it seems.
Grim – I don’t know who he is, but I don’t think it’s Lammy.
I think that’s James Cleverley who is a conservative MP for Essex? Lammy would not have the attention span or intellect to grasp what JRM was saying .
It’s wishful that JRM would get something in a Conservative Cabinet but i couldn’t see him staying there unless he was running it . God how I wish .
Image that – a politician who knows how to make money and believes in something irrespective of whether he will be criticised by day time tv , twitter and other meaningless froth.
( sorry if spelling is off as very tired ).
There is an article on the website promoting male midwives.
Civilisation has evolved different roles for men and women over thousands of years, anchored in biological differences. It must be one of the most basic human desires not to have a man who is not your husband staring at your vagina. And would most men feel comfortable telling people they did that for a living?
Yet another victimless non issue championed by the bonkers Beeb.
Separated from my family for 60 years {bbc.co.uk 06oct2017}
Mohamed Bubaker came to Sheffield from Yemen in the 1960s to work in the steel industry.
He always hoped that his family would be able to join him one day, but it’s never been possible and he’s lived alone for nearly 60 years. (by his own choice)
– ‘Separated from my family for 60 years’ – but sees them every year and could go and live with them if he choose to.
Hi MarkyMark – this is part of the activist campaign started by Diane Abbott & Islamic groups, taken up and carried by the BBC, to pressurise the home office to allow foreign workers from Islamic countries to bring over their families. This would start new chains of immigration and Islamification, as extended families & linked families are brought over into Britain.
The Continuing Islamification of Britain: it is all about creating test cases to test and change the law in the Law Courts and if that fails select sob stories to mount a public opinion campaign, to pressurise careerist politicians to change policy and enact new legislation. In parallel with this is getting Islamists into the Media, into the Judiciary, into the Police force, into Local government and into Parliament.
BBC emotional, not many facts, video does not say how many family members he wants to bring back to the UK.
If I missed my family I would risk staying with them. In fact being so far away means he cannot do anything for them – apart from sending welfare money from the UK to Yemen every month.
The government did not have access to or oversight of the courts and therefore did not report efforts to prosecute, convict, or punish trafficking offenses during the year. It (Yemen) made no known efforts to investigate or punish the practice of chattel (a personal possession) slavery. {state.gov 2017}
I saw that last night. So in a nutshell:
Bloke moved to the Uk in 1960 , deciding on British citizenship in 1985. in the 32 years since owning a British passport, instead of moving his family here, he decided that they should move instead to Egypt. However, things haven’t worked as planned and now he wants to move them to the Uk. But he’s been retired for 22 years and doesn’t earn enough in which to cover the minimum income rule which came into force in 2010. So the question I have to ask is why did Mohammed do nothing for the first 50 years of his time in the Uk seeing as Yemen has faced far greater conflict before 2015 when the Saudis went in:
North Yemen Civil War 26 September 1962 – 1 December 1970 up to 200,000 dead
South Yemen Civil War 13–24 January 1986 up to 10,000 dead
Yemeni Civil War 4 May – 7 July 1994 up to 10,000 dead
Yemeni Revolution- 27 January 2011 – 27 February 2012 2000 killed
Houthi insurgency in Yemen-18 June 2004 – 6 February 2015 hundreds of thousands killed
The current bun fight has seen around 12k people killed, which in the whole scheme of things is nothing compared to what went before.
Yet only now does Mohammed deem it too dangerous for his family to live in Yemen. Could it be, as he is on a pension, he can no longer afford to fly over?
How history puts things into perspective. No mention of history on BBC because it spoils the feeling. Thanks for info.
There was a time when Britain controlled Aden and South Yemen and kept a lid on things, but that was imperialism and therefore bad.
The BBC has currently got a drama on set during British rule in Aden. I wonder what their take on this outpost of the Empire will be?
Later this month it looks like the Czechs might have a new “Trumpian” prime minister—Andrej Babis, a billionaire who wants to send Arab immigrants back home and promises to make the government work as well as his businesses do. 🙂
I looked up on google for the recipients of the eu money as opposed to those like us who pay in.
Poland gets about £15 billion a year. Good for them.
If Poland were to leave the eu does that mean they would receive £50-£100 billion (for future commitments of course) and that the eu would have to pay them maybe £10 billion a year to be able to trade with them.
Sounds ridiculous but it is perfect logic.
If Catalonia leaves Spain do they have to pay Spain tens of billions and then, depending on if they are receivers or payers to the eu, have to settle up with the eu as well.
How much would it cost Scotland to leave the UK if they vote to leave in their next referendum.
After centuries together…how many billions.
Or are we absolutely unique in that we are expected to give tens of billions to leave the eu and billions more to buy stuff from the eu.
Emmanuel,
With a bit of luck – with 452? Days left there will not be enough time to reach agreement and we can just go. There was talk of contingency planning for that come the time .
Unfortunately March 2018 with a 365 count down might concentrate minds a bit . Big risk for the EU because if we leave without agreement and life continues ( which i believe it will) other nations might see the light and leave . Unless the EU army invades of course .
Off issue – there seems to be echos of our civil war with the big Spanish state threatening to suspend the Little States Parliament by force.
Mark Easton does one of his standard pieces on Jeremy Vine today about the ‘homeless’ in the London boroughs.
Despite the ‘English’ names of all of his ‘victims’ none of them speaks like a native. Over to someone from the council to explain why they are breaking the law by housing people in temporary accommodation
Surprisingly she is an Asian. She is able to assure us that the problem has little to do with immigration but rather the reluctance of private landlords to rent out property to these ‘homeless’ people.
Presumably all these rental properties are standing empty, just like the council houses that Margaret Thatcher ‘sold off’? The obvious solution would be to move to where the living is cheap – Africa or Asia perhaps? It’s not right that we in the West should enjoy all of the benefits of mass immigration.
I wonder if Margaret Thatcher foresaw the future ? selling off council houses to sitting (white) tenants, before the influx of migrants could land here and lay claim to them.
If, as we are told, immigrants bring so much wealth and contribute so much to our country then the more we can send to these places in Africa the sooner these places will become wealthier.
I’m sure we can somehow cope with the loss of all the contributions these immigrants pay in to the treasury coffers.
Emmanuel ,
I can never understand the pride labour supporters show in having loads of foreigners in the NHS ( looking after a load of other foreigners and the occasional Anglo) .
What about their countries – who looks after the sick there? Should they be doing it and the professional medical mafia restructured to make it less exclusive . Particularly since “Dr Google will see you now “
Oh dear 65% of young people won’t be able to cope if interest rates rise. Those interviewed said with sad faces that they would have to forgo holidays, and other ‘stuff’. I don’t know about kids being brought up in cotton wool these days, but certainly this current lot of ‘youngsters’ under 40 have lived in a cuddly bubble for the past decade or so. We thought interest rates were low when they hit single figures !! and we really had to bite the bullet on our much lower wages when it went up to 16%. Holidays were a luxury not a ‘right’, – and if this ‘lot’ learned to cook properly then they wouldn’t have to buy food with credit cards, which is reported what’s happening now. Every generation has it tough, – from my grandmother having lard on bread before going to school in the early 1900’s, so why should this lot believe they are exeptional ? Its life, deal with it.
Bris
Blimey when I was a kid in the 60s I had bread and dripping . As a kid you don’t know about wealth level .
I do wonder how people will react to more realistic interest rates to try to keep sterling worth having . Buy dollars – and even euros before mcdonald get the keys to the Bank of England .,
“Can you learn English from EastEnders?”
A cutesy, positive story on the BBC News site about Farid Saleh, an Afghan who came here as a child refugee and claims to have learned to speak English partly by watching the soap with his foster family. Cue lots of stuff in the video about accents and EastEnders’ catchphrases. Also, it seems that young Farid learned a lot about our culture from the programme and how to integrate:
“When I met my foster family it was challenging, I didn’t know what they were saying,” he says. “There would be days I would come home from school and say, ‘I can’t do this.'”
So every night his foster mother would sit with him and they’d watch EastEnders together with the subtitles on.
They would note new words and Farid would try to use them in sentences.
Slowly and steadily he stopped being a teenager lost in a foreign world and grew into a young man with a future. ”
Along the way, Farid could also have learned from the soap that white British men are: Violently jealous stalkers; schoolteachers who attempt affairs with both schoolgirls and their mothers; and posh geezers who are ruthless property developers and number among them a rapist from the programme’s past (all are current plot strands in EastEnders).
Not all villains are white in EastEnders, of course – there’s black teenager Keegan, who for his first few months in the show was a dangerous schoolboy bully. When he finally moved into Albert Square we found out his family were – Surprise! – benefits-claiming white trash.
Did Farid learn to be a good New Briton that the likes of the BBC could be proud of?
“He is studying at university to become a social worker and also helping today’s child refugees who feel as lost as he once did.”
Sounds like job done!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-41516251
On R4’s ‘Today’ programme there was an item about how modern British children don’t know the names of common species of birds, trees, plants etc. No real explanation was given as to why. Of course, they didn’t mention that in modern Britain rather a lot of children come from a household where English is not the first language and British flora and fauna are not therefore likely to be a particularly well known subject. All the children they interviewed on the programme sounded, as far as I could tell, as if they were Londoners from black or asian backgrounds.
Would it be similar to the situation with the 1066 Norman French?
The peasants saw the animal in the field as a cow, the Norman feudal lords saw the meat on the plate and called it boeuf (beef).
When did you last eat swan?
T.C.
I think it’s pretty obvious that all the so called soap operas are nothing more than state sponsored social training programs for white British folks. The message is always the same,that the majority must adapt to the lifestyles and opinions of the minority and not as it should be, the other way around. We are being programmed by traitors. Surely no other culture on earth would tolerate this soviet bullshit.
Wasn’t there something like that in 1984 ?
Bread and circuses and we don’t want to educate the proles too well because they’ll only start thinking about “things” .
I hasten to add – I am a Capitalist but I think every one deserves a fair shake. If they choose not to take it that’s their Choice
Wrighty,
Agreed, in soaps it’s nearly always women strong/men weak and white people worse than BAMEs. The Sun’s TV critic Ally Ross does a good job of trashing EastEnders on a regular basis.
I don’t think Enders/Corrie/Emmerdale are even that popular – they’re on in the early evening when most people have finished work and just eaten – and relax in front of the telly – it’s wallpaper TV. They are poorly made and forgettable – even their fans don’t remember old plots or characters.
I know people who watch both the BBC’s near-identical medical soaps, Casualty and Holby City, and they often seem to have trouble telling them apart. Maybe that’s why the Beeb pays actor Derek Thompson so much, because he performs an important service – “Casualty is the one with Charlie in it.”
If all the soaps disappeared tomorrow, I don’t think anyone would miss them for long. Scouse soap Brookside got similar ratings to EastEnders at one time, does anyone sit around nostalgically wishing for its return?
Janet Jackson meets the real Mr. Islam …. Janet Jackson “felt like a prisoner” in marriage to Muslim {jihadwatch.org oct2017}
….
Breaking up with Mr. Islam by Daniel Greenfield {sultanknish jun2016}
Islam is peaceful. Just ask Rafiqi Islam, a loving husband, who told his wife that he had a present for her, blindfolded her to make it a surprise and then cut off her fingers. Then the rest of the Islam family mopped up the blood, while Mr. Islam threw her fingers into the trash, and after a few hours took her to the hospital where they warned her to tell the doctors that she had an accident.
…
Either we go on playing the game of blindfold and machete, or we take off the blindfold, take away the machete and show Mr. Islam the door.
Hi MarkyMark – I’ve been thinking maybe you should do something like Pounce – set up your own blog or website – to order and archive all the stuff you have been getting – as a resource for yourself & others.
(Unfortunately for me I am unable to access Pounce’s website / blog as my laptop virus checker (F-Secure Safe) goes crazy with the same message over and over (harmful file “bloggertemplatelinkwrapper[1].htm” blocked) and which I have been unable to resolve. Apparently others don’t get this message).
I’m cool here, but thanks for the suggestion. I forward on all my entries to Ms Hopkins just to keep a record, she does not reply very often (twice?) but at least I know they are somewhere else.
Not sure if I love or hate Ms. Hopkins, but she does stir the hornets nest.
1. Clear your browser cache for the site, sounds like you’ve bookmarked a bad file.
2. Try a different browser (Chrome/Firefox)
Hi thanks for the suggestions. I think I cleared my browser cache for the site (Explorer 11) – but got same message. Also tried MS Edge browser – but got same message. I am no expert of the internet nor PC operating systems nor browsers so it’s something I am going to have to get back to later.
Katie Hopkins? Maybe she just deletes your messages? She seems a busy person. Anyway all the best. As mentioned before I personally rate you a gold star commentator (along with Pounce, StewGreen and several others including Grant – who is maybe on leave).
I think I work well responding to most contributors on this site. Afraid I’m not very original with the news … visit my ideas site if you please
http://bright-spark-mark.blogspot.co.uk/2016/07/eight-worthy-goals.html?m=1
Hi, thanks. I think when discussing politics and religion it is best to remain under normal present day circumstances anonymous – because such are the times – as “progressives” act to close down free speech in this era of what perhaps could be called “progressive fascism” or “progressive authoritarianism”. I think George Orwell’s double speak has come to pass.
It’s Friday; it’s five o’clock (well, 5.20) and…
… time to get more popcorn!
What did Graham Ellis, Deputy Director, BBC Radio buy for 51 pence and charge the TV Tax payer, under threat of prison?
Graham Ellis // Hotels Hotel // 02/02/2017 // Auteuil Tour // Eiffel Hotel £0.51 {bbc.co.uk}
Why claim back 51 pence when Graham Ellis is on Salary: £204,020 / Pension: £212,820! {bbc.co.uk}
p.s. I wish that some reporter of a real media organisation would go through these expenses, they are very revealing and humorous.
Jon Sopel was telling one of those ‘some say’ stories that the BBC loves on Jeremy Vine today. There are some doctors in the US who by using special remote diagnostic methods have determined that President Trump is mentally ill. Sopel was asked what he thought but he declined to give an opinion as ‘he wasn’t a doctor’, (it didn’t stop him floating the slander though).
What was slightly amusing was that these ‘doctors’ knew that President Trump was mentally ill because his vocabulary had reduced over the years.
Shouldn’t that diagnosis worry the Beeboids? Listening to them nowadays all they say is “Trump, Brexit, Trump, Brexit”
I thought BigBrother wanted reduced vocabulary and replace it with Newspeak .
JimS
Sounds like typical soviet tactics. If you disagreed with them you were either mad,bad or dead.
JimS
“ some say” the doctors are disgruntled democrats still crying into their bud lite . They really can’t get over the fact that President Trump is not a career politician dealing with career journos .
He just doesn’t play to their rules or expectations
And they are disorientated which makes them scared . Bless .
“The idea that those who seek to hold the mighty to account should be activists is a very dangerous one”
Well, yes it is.
This being the Graun, I wonder if any at the BBC saw this?
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/oct/06/journalists-takes-sides-truth-to-power-activists?
John may ponder all directions this can apply. The BBC is well aware.
Also have to admire that ‘if’, especially when applied to a Graun audience numbering about 20,000 who still make that claim in hope someone may be convinced.
Hilarious.
Nick Robinson and Paul Mason have weighed in as they know they at least ‘get it about right’.
That’s Nick Robinson. And Paul Mason.
Think it was Christopher Hitchens who said we need the friction of debate to create heat and then light …
“Tory leadership: ‘Nothing has changed’, or has it?”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41524377
Yep, we are still in the European Union!
We should have been out long ago. The best way for May to remain as Prime Minister is for her to get us out of the EU ‘pronto’.
BBC news this evening is giving a lot of credence to the views of those pompous asses in Norway who dole out their Nobel awards. Some anti nuclear bunch of lefties (naturally) have won the peace prize. Their spokeswoman – sorry I mean spokesperson (or just ‘spoke’?) was given a free pass to have a go at Trump as someone unfit to be in charge of the big button.
This is the same wunch of bankers who gave Barry Obummer a prize when he’d only been in the White House 5 minutes and done diddley squat.
Does the Nobel Peace Prize come with a 30 day ‘overrated praise’ back guarantee?
As I said ‘ICAN get Nobel Prize for getting countries with no nuclear arms to say they don’t want nuclear arms‘.
None alcoholic man stopped from being an alcoholic by saying he won’t be an alcoholic?
Don’t forget these righteous numpties awarded the EU one a few years back. It’s lost all credibility
I actually wish that Alfred Nobel had stuck to the dynamite.
Not often the perfect way to bring the week’s work to perfect conclusion is handed one on a plate:
Must make a note not to use her security guys for… well, security mainly.
All we need now is a Sarah Montague lookalike to wee on her shoes. 😉
I am currently reading about Greek History and the struggle of the Greeks for independence against Islam in the guise of the Ottoman Turks. In this history a certain Muhammad Ali of Egypt became involved in fighting against the Greeks for personal reward.
Which leads me to the following observations:
It is ironic that the Boxer Cassius Clay, who as a person seemed in many ways to be an inspirational figure, but in the name he chose Muhammad Ali – utterly deluded.
Cassius Clay was the name given to him by his parents – in honour of the white Christian Cassius Clay who strived tirelessly to end Black slavery and for equal rights.
Muhammad Ali was the name suggested and given to him by the Nation of Islam. Muhammad Ali was an Islamic warlord who slaughtered, enslaved and colonised.
So this inspirational figure and boxer changed his name from someone who was against slavery to someone who enslaved people. Yet the media never examine or try to correct these facts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassius_Marcellus_Clay_(politician)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Ali_of_Egypt
Wow that is astounding that we don’t know Cassius Clay was named after an anti-slavery pioneer.
Excellent find.
To be gifted a name that heads towards freedom (Cassius Clay) and then choose a name that means submission (Muhammad)!
BBC – as I am sure you probably realise – Cassius Marcellus Clay committed one of the ultimate crimes in the eyes of the chattering classes and of course the MSM . Poor old Cassius was “hideously white”. As we all know this totally devalues any “humanitarian” or virtuous acts he committed. Its why Florence Nightingale has been jettisoned in favour of sarny vendor Mary Seacole. And it is probably also a factor as to why the sexual abuse 1400 white girls was ignored by the authorities as I am sure no self respecting right on social worker or bobby would want to be seen dissing a member of a virtuous effnik minority.
Basically these days black or brown is generally good and white is only ok if you abase and prostrate yourself at the “right on” PC alter and reject your culture heritage in order to get PC points.
Oaknash
As the song said “I see trouble on the way.” And we know who caused it. Not the “right wing buffoons” who appear on this site.That’s a certainty.
Not the BBC but I just saw a commercial on ITV for Kinder Eggs.
The ones that have a small toy inside.
Can you believe it…. the blue ones have a Hot Wheel toy car inside whilst the pink ones have a Hello Kitty toy inside..
I don’t know what the world is coming to…
How sexist! What colour eggs do Transgender kids get?
There’ll be a Panorama investigation of the Kinder firm next week.
BBC Parliament : 4oct Strasbourg – European Council Summit Debate
Gollnisch MEP – French Nationalist.
Currently talking about roots of migration problems – Eritrea with young men avoiding Army Conscription and Libya Coast being borderless plus Navy is just colluding with traffickers who phone the French Navy when migrant boat needs picking up.
Real debate – not just congratulating each other in the EU council on doing nothing – the tone had changed.
America’s sweetheart.
Impartially, of course.
Oh another set of adverts where black/mixed race actors seem to have been shoehorned in
I think it’s fair that maccydee uses black actors as in my area that fast food outlet is the place of choice for 14 year old black boys to test out their knife skills after school .
LibLand and its habit of trying to get you to BUY FOR MORE stuff to make you more green ..#irony
… ‘Oh you have to buy an electric car, cos diesels second hand value is dropping.
Right except electric cars have low secondhand value, cos the battery deteriorates and people want new tech not old.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/cars/article-4943684/The-10-fastest-depreciating-new-cars-revealed.html
…..You’d get the impression that ethnic minorities make up 50% of the population by watching it, when in actual fact they are only 2% of the population in this area……
Slow off the mark there aren’t they ? seriously, have they’ve only just woken up to something we’ve known for years ? (and cant do anything about)
Just listening to R4 Any Questions. Shouting at the radio because the discussion on building council housing made no reference at all towards the effect of mass immigration since 1997 on the social housing situation.
Why can’t they have an inner city housing officer on the program who would tell them the way it is. Who gets preference for council housing?
Is jumping on the council housing bandwagon the way to go anyway? What is the percentage of social housing tenants in receipt of housing benefit? Are we going to concrete over the country to house imported welfare recipients?
Housing departments are famously targeted by fraud gangs as ready sources of bribes and other frauds – sub letting – ignored – false benefits – which no one will challenge for fear of “racism” .
This surely has to be ended. After Grenfell check for over crowding .. Think of the children ….won’t anybody think of the dear children. (Added to argument guarantees success!)
Any housing officer appearing on a discussion programme who tells the truth would be sacked, let go or downsized before he got back to his office.
The councils and much of the governing is done by the wet far lefties who have their people in place.
The thing is, any housing officer who is likely to come out with true facts will not become a housing officer in the first place.
The swamp is huge.
Just think of teachers for example, almost every one of them on the left and passing their views on to your children every day.
Hey look at the title of this R4 prog ,
The Apocalypse Hasn’t Happened Yet
maybe it might not be anti-Trump ……………………..dream on
It was loaded with hate and bile
Even googlebox attacks May and Conservatives and praises Marr on his interview techniques.
Wonder how Corbyn was shown?
But may is bad .. calling her Maybot.
Marr asking for yes or no answer. Same for Corbyn?
There was something that Jeremy Vine, said yesterday on his show which I forgot to post about; at the beginning of the programme he stated that:
“Someone once said that: ‘Politicians complaining about the press are like sea captains complaining about the sea.'”
That is very true Jezza, “someone” did indeed say that – it was a certain “someone” called Mr J. Enoch Powell; if you’re going to begin your show quoting that, can’t you even bring yourself to credit the man who actually said it?
Or is Powell so utterly beyond the pale at al Beebus, that he can’t even be quoted or acknowledged on ANYTHING?
Lord God – Porridge 2017 – barker and beckinsale would be spinning in their boxes. I’m surprised al beeb didn’t bury it on bbc2 Sunday night 11 o’clock same way they do with other disasters – ( ullman )
Strange how great comedy gets thrashed – if anyone had the misfortune to see the latest Dads Army film you’d know why…
I didn’t watch it – I only saw the trailer earlier in the week.
Is the prison guard really a black woman? WTF???
I’m not sure lobster . Don’t think there was one in this episode but I was busy listening to the canned laughter .
It’s hard to believe it’s wriiten by the same pair as the original but I guess they live in LA and were given a shed load of taxpayers money to pen it .
Bloody awful . Seemed written by a committee- no heart – no soul – nothing endearing like the original .
Not even a Godber with an o level in geography . ( what’s an ismus?)
Gardeners World BBC2
I like gardening so sometimes I watch this. They couldn’t even leave this alone. They cut to a segment where-
“Adam Frost visits a community allotment in Manchester providing support to refugees.”
So now we have to provide so-called refugees with allotment space as well?
Poor poor victims, can’t get jobs, some of them have suffered persecution due to their sexuality. Same old rubbish. All our responsibility to bring them to England and put them up for life all expenses paid. Is The Congo at war? You would think this was a massive continent (like Africa) we were living on rather than tiny overcrowded little islands. All sad stories & interviews with beautiful people from Africa follow.
Turned it off in disgust when they cut back to Monty Don. Another program ruined.
I wonder if they will get even cheaper refugees in to pick their crops as the earlier refugees might not want to do this work.
One of those unnecessary little bits of film that are shown between programmes shows allotment holders lined up on their allotments; they are of course racially very mixed, in the way we know allotment holders are.
Actually the allotments that are used in that short clip are literally just down the road from where I live, I can in fact see them from my living room window, living in a tower block and it is a very racially mixed allotments with a lot of Sikh users as well as some black a ndTurkish man (my school friends dad) and white all together. And to be honest, they all seem to get on and it’s nice to see my towns name broadcast on the BBC! They do still talk a lot of crap and I’m noticing it more and more.
Actually the allotments that are used in that short clip are literally just down the road from where I live, I can in fact see them from my living room window, living in a tower block and it is a very racially mixed allotments with a lot of Sikh users as well as some black a ndTurkish man (my school friends dad) and white all together. And to be honest, they all seem to get on and it’s nice to see my towns name broadcast on the BBC! They do still talk a lot of crap and I’m noticing it more and more.
I gave up the moment Monty Don was given the job – the natural choice considering his lack of credentials other than writing for a Left wing newspaper. I can’t abide the man, nor the rest of the gang they have on there these days.
For a while, the Scottish gardening programme that is shown in England on Sunday mornings, the Beechgrove Garden, was better (you just needed to adjust your dates mentally as the season is later in Scotland than for most in England) but that has been infected too and is endlessly visiting ‘community gardens’ instead of imparting useful advice.
There is, truly, no area of broadcasting which the BBC does not use to propagandise collectivism.
Many, many years ago Beechgrove Garden did a brilliant story that was supposed to be of interest to anyone who had moved into a new house, perhaps in one of Scotland’s new towns.
They visited an elderly man whose narrow back garden was a verdant canyon, a veritable ‘garden of Eden’. Somehow this had all been done in a few years from a basis of standard builder’s rubble. How had all this been achieved?
It turned out that our gardening hero had spent many years building up a garden at his previous house and when he moved his farmer friend turned up with tractor, front shovel and bogie, lifted the old garden and dumped it on the new one!. The pained look on the presenter’s face was fantastic TV.
I can only assume that BBC Scotland had put so much effort into filming that episode that they had to let it run, even after their host had dropped his bombshell.
How about this for impartiality.
Have I Got News for You.
11 minutes unanswered laying in to the Tories.
20 seconds modest commentary on Labour.
Now Treezer may be toast. We get that. So how about some satire on the Labour Party money printing press, money grows on trees policies, vindictive leftmob violence and anti-semitism?
Nope, thought not.
HIGNFY used to be funny years ago and was a must-see for me, but I can’t bear to watch it now.
It’s like a left wing version of incest.
………which is why the BBC producers like it so much !
Lobster
Or a liquid fart in a restaurant. Do you remember when the magazine Private Eye was anti establishment?
I subscribed for 25 years until it started running with the deep state. I wonder what Richard Ingram’s thinks of the rag now. Such a shame.
The same criticism applies to the R4 version, ‘News Quiz’. I can’t remember exactly when it stopped being funny and started being lefty propoganda but now I just shout ‘YOU’RE. NOT. FUNNY.’ and turn it off.
It stopped being funny when it lost Barry Took; not only was he funny, he was never vicious or party political.
Channel4. The Last Leg. From gun massacre to handing pets out to guests. Adults?
R5 Nolan is at 11:30 pm to cover Richard Spencer who is in Nolan’s words “The white supremacist who facilitated the carnage in Charlottesville”
I expect a sneering hit piece
Someone just showed me that even tho a dramatic paper was quickly retracted the BBC with £3.5bn worth of resources
..can’t get round to adding a retraction note to its original story.
“Fish eat plastic like teens eat fast food, researchers say”
By Matt McGrath Environment correspondent 2 June 2016
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-36435288
https://www.acsh.org/news/2017/05/05/science-finally-retracts-absolute-mess-paper-11234
Hi, this is a general query: do we have anyone here that has some Indian / South East Asian heritage coupled with a Hindu / Sikh/ Buddhist heritage?
I ask because I want to know what your thoughts are of the BBC coverage of India, Indian Hindus, Indian Sikhs and the like, compared to say Pakistan and Indian Muslims.
I say this having followed for about 6 months the BBC’s web output in this area. It seems to me the BBC is running a hate campaign against India, Indian Hindus, Indian Sikhs etc. It is almost as if that section of the BBC output is being written or controlled by people with interests favouring Islam and Pakistan. The type of stories selected, and the headlines used to label India, Hindus, Sikhs are in general never found when referring to Pakistan or Muslims.
Here is the latest BBC headline in the Asia / India News Section: Kashmir ‘mass rape’ survivors fight for justice
More than 26 years ago, Indian soldiers allegedly raped more than 30 women in the Kashmiri villages of Kunan and Poshpora. Those who survived the attack are still fighting for justice, as Aliya Nazki from BBC Urdu reports.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-41268906
Yet from what I have seen, the BBC over the past 6 months have never used the headline MASS RAPE to describe Muslim rape gangs nor rape gangs of Pakistani heritage from Britain. Instead they refer to sexual offences committed by men. The same is true when the BBC covers stories about Pakistan and Muslims in general. The difference in approach is extremely stark.
I am not Indian, Hindu or Sikh but I have noticed (for a few years now) a distinct lack of positive focus on “Asians” other than Muslim in MSM. I find Sikhism particularly interesting but I doubt I would have learned anything about this people group & their culture if I had only BBC exposure to go on.
The BBC are not afraid to spend British taxpayers money in asking what to them are the important questions – such as why isn’t everyone gay? With the inference being if you’re not gay there might be something wrong with you – either suffering from oppression in not coming out of the closet or being a homophobe.
BBC Headline: Why are there so few gay people in the east of England?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-41475038
My immediate thought is that is the kind of story I would expect to find in GayNews or the Pink Paper etc. and that’s fine , cos they are specialist and campaigning.
But look how the BBC chooses to use a campaigning “celebrate gayness” type graphic for its news story
Would they do the same with other topics , say Christianity ?
Meanwhile there seems to be a new fashion of people getting their tongues split because they think it is cool to have lizard tongues:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-london-41531135/illegal-tongue-splitting-procedures-exposed
BBC -I think Blair, Corbyn, Fatbot, Clegg, Cameron, Theresa, Hammond and co all sucesfully undertook this operation years ago .
Oaknash – LOL!
As Grant would say 🙂
Oaknash
Don’t forget puppet Starmer – the duplicitous establishment Blairite (promises of perks, positions and pensions).
I still think the Marxists are a (disposable) diversion.
We need to Brexit fast before we can get on to the other problems.
Agreed re Starmer – But seriously in some ways the worst of the lot regarding forked tongues is Theresa.
Despite supporting their case for remain with a tsunami of falsehoods, at least we know where most of these vested interest chimps are coming from. But Theresa on the other hand is trying to pull off some sort of crude mind game. She chooses deliberately opaque words that she knows will be interpreted by us as supportive of brexit yet everything she has done – from her EU surrender speech the other week to dragging out the brexit process is for all intents and purposes likely to disrupt the whole process of leaving the EU.
I am afraid in this case “White woman definitely speaks with forked tongue”
New Government “Direct Entry scheme” allows civilians to join the police and take up senior roles immediately rather than having to work their way up the ranks. It seems to be yet another mechanism to “diversify” the police force to meet the various diversity quotas in senior management. Expect feminists and Islamists to make full use of the scheme.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-41364753/police-force-to-appoint-commander-in-direct-entry-scheme
Broadcasting
I think you are right – this is just another next step along from the old graduate entry scheme – which I refused to use on the basis that having a degree didn’t make me a good copper but I had to learn like everyone else….and was told by the Sergeant taking me to interview “you won’t get in because they want you to use the graduate entry scheme” – in his words, and said with a smile ” because they want the police force to be seen to more intelligent” – I didn’t….
So now it does open the doors for the police to be more diversified – just like reducing height requirements did…
They lost a bit of diversity the other day when about 7 ethnic-muslim officers were jailed for selling drugs
A quick search and…….. That article is only on local news media, for some reason, Stew….. Wonder why…..
By the way – it’s two officers plus five others.
Hi StewGreen – just to clarify, it was two police officers plus five non police criminal affiliates. However they were all from the same “community” – “The Community” that the BBC keep telling us is a victimhood group. The police officers were accessing data from police computers and then passing it to their affiliates.
Recipe for disaster. When I was in the Job, the already functioning graduate entry scheme was churning out Bramshill flyers, whose sole ability was to eat peas from a knife, get in the way at crime scenes, slapping their thighs with their brown gloves, and generally fucking things up, whilst looking for the next promotional step (which they invariably got, because they were incompetent, and hated in the one they already occupied).
Then there was the drive in the late seventies, for more WPCs, which in its turn, enabled the force to increase its quota of inefficient, incompetent female staff. Then it all went up shit creek with medical and eyesight requirements becoming less stringent, the height rule being conveniently forgotten about, the minimum educational necessity for candidates being quietly shelved, homosexuality being less frowned upon, “foreigners” being encouraged to join and, of course, entrants with criminal records being accepted.
All in all, standards plummeted – and that was some years ago. Now, it seems, the average recruit should be LGBTXYZ, wear rainbow accoutrements, and be permitted (nay, encouraged) to dance and prance around at events, whilst, in their desire for fair play and “diversity” giving one section of society an easier ride, if not openly supporting them. In the meantime, attendance at REAL crime dropped, whilst they pretended they had no money to do the job required of them, simultaneously quietly purchasing gaily coloured “rainbow” vehicles in which to
patrolponce around the streets and support the gay “community”.Then there’s the “hate” crime…
I got out years ago, and followed that up with exiting the country. Smart move, I believe.
Don’t worry, what with the European Arrest Warrant and Facebook and Google now ‘on-side’ I’m sure they will bring you back – to face historic ‘hate crimes’!
BBC Regional News Headline: Second Solihull councillor in anti-Muslim tweet probe
A second Conservative councillor is being investigated by a council over anti-Muslim retweets. A complaint has been made against Margaret Bassett over retweets that included newspaper stories about crimes committed by Muslims. Jeff Potts was suspended last week from Solihull Council’s religious education committee over a similar allegation.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-41508804
It seems there are team of legal people from a certain community that trawls tweets or even retweets for anti-Muslim sentiment – that seems to include mere reference of members of a certain community being involved in crimes.
The whole point of the internet is that it allows circumventing such intimidation that stops freedom of speech, cos it’s easy for celebs/politicians to run alter ego accounts so they can comment freely.
BBC,
We will be shut up whether we like it or not. The only solution to this is to play the muzzies at their own game: use the law and, importantly, press it home. Complain to the police formally when the plethora of muslim hate speakers fire up their rhetoric and/or we find it unacceptable and ‘racist’ and if they do nothing fearing retribution from the muzzies, take the complaint up the ranks. Time is running out quickly now.
“This week, it’s the Tories who get it in the neck from Radio 4 Extra’s Newsjack, the comedy sketch show written by you! Listen and submit your material here: http://bbc.in/i3ajp0
This week? And it’s written by ‘you’ (OK, a small amount of pre vetting and editing) so the BBC is again in the clear.
Just how many channels of fruitcake does the BBC have since GBBO bailed?
The BBC have got this brainwashed girl spouting racist, Marxist, anti-English, anti-British rhetoric. They have added background sound, simple lettering, highlighted words etc to create a snazzy looking, sharp, propaganda presentation for kids and others who lack experience or knowledge to know any better.
Her speech includes: “… I’ve seen from a very young age how our society is built on white male privilege …”
I would like to know just how “very young” she was when she was able to “see our society”.
The truth is she never saw anything – she is just repeating bullshit Marxist feminist racist dogma. The BBC know what they are doing in creating this type of stuff at the British taxpayers expense. And they continue to get away with it. There is no evidence presented. No analysis. No questioning of statements. It is pure rhetoric. Pure propaganda.
She herself doesn’t look like she is suffering. She looks very comfortable, with her dreadlocked hair, multiply studded ears, carefully groomed eyebrows, polo necked woolly jumper … She doesn’t look one bit oppressed. And she isn’t.
BBC,
Ferment a little bit of anarchy here, ferment a little bit of anarchy there, ferment a little bit of anarchy wherever possible. Slip it to them 24/7/365. The BBC at work.
Guest Who
Yep. Intersectionalism is all the rage. An academic in eg. law, submits a paper to a prestigious journal, and the referee responds by saying you need to include something on intersectionalism. So you are under pressure to publish, and scrape around to add some drivel on intersectionalism that contributes nothing to your research. That is how it creeps in. This has recently happened to a colleague of mine.
The intersectionalist loonies are busy infiltrating everywhere. Early this year Vegans held a conference in Brighton. You might expect lots of discussions on the benefits of veganism, arguments against meat eating etc. But vegans ought to be intersectional too and fight against white male supremacy.
See link
http://vegfestexpress.co.uk/tabs/blog/2017/02/intersectional-vegan-summit-continues-at-vegfestuk-brighton-2017-after-debut-at-olympia
26 replies under that tweet
…all against her
Grandchildren, great grandchildren ? If and I use the term loosely she actually can find a wimp to breed with her then he certainly will do the usual runner very soon after and on to the next easy lay, and on and on.
These females forget that they have a body clock which males don’t have, who the hell would want to hitch up with a partner with that attitude and live happy ever after ?
Or maybe you’ll be living in a world dominated by Islam and will have no “wimmins rights” whatsoever!
Odd. Usually the bbc has them lining up.
My wife informed me she watched the BBC 100 women item in which they (some women in silicon valley) had a week to make an App that would improve the life of women…it was an App to give them an objective when they go into a meeting!!! Funny I always have my objectives for when I go into a meeting…
My wife’s response ‘ what a load of Sh..te and and a large metaphorical book hit the TV .
Doesn’t the BBC recognise that women who are good at their job are good at their job and don’t need patronising…and most of the women I know are like my wife….good at their job, don’t take crap and don’t need feminists to argue for them – in fact they can’t stand them…my morning rant over….
There was once an inventing competition with a special award for women. Why a special award for women? I hear you ask.
Anyways, the ladies team that won the special award had come up with an electric teaspoon. Now this is more than ten years ago and oddly this major development in science is still yet to hit the high street.
I have a cost cutting suggestion for the BBC
Watching Samira Ahmed just now on Newswatch putting Licence Payers’ complaints about BBC News coverage to her colleague Jon Zilkha Controller of the News Channel it struck me that savings could be made were the show to be replaced with a simple caption popping up on our screens announcing “We think we got it about right”
Afterall, News watch is quite expensive. Our Jon is on something north of £150k plus expenses http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/bbc-increases-rather-than-decreases-staff-paid-150k-and-cuts-less-than-half-predicted-2000-jobs/ and our Samira has put in for a pay rise http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/23/womans-hour-presenters-paid-40pc-less-bbc-shows/
‘BBC journalism managers with a full-time equivalent salary of more than £150,000 include the following (source BBC): (list of names) …. Jon Zilkha, Controller, News Channels.’
‘…Samira Ahmed….(etc etc)… all added their names to the letter calling for equal pay throughout the organisation before the promised date of 2020’
Having watched several editions of Newswatch I know the BBC never gives an inch – the consistent message from the BBC is to simply tell viewers they have to put up with what the BBC has to offer.
Newswatch is an exercise in what the Americans call Kabuki Theatre (Kabuki is an activity or drama carried out in real life in a predictable or stylized fashion, reminiscent of the Kabuki style of Japanese stage play).
Fair enough, but let us off the TV Licence poll tax and move to subscription and all complaints would be instantly dealt with. Hows that, BBC?
Then by all means employ as many Jon Zilkhas as you like and give Samira her pay rise.
This going to be so embarrassing when we look back at ourselves … Englishman faces prison in UK for writing “death to Allah” on Qatar Airways plane armrest
{jihadwatch.org}
A fine? A ban? Ridicule? Nope … prison. Remove a propaganda poster then hard labour and the only release is death ala North Korea.
Jeez : although the titles say armrest the text says he only wrote on a napkin
Could have been a lot worse … what if he had been reading the Satanic Verses whilst drawing cartoons of the worlds infamous prophets and deciding if he should tell his parents If he was gay and feeling sad because he could not apply for a job at the slaughter house because he has a pig for a pet. Words on a napkin ….