Midweek Open Thread


When Toby Young was forced to quit hs position it was the talk  of the BBC, when Labour’s Munroe Bergdorf buggers orf it’s buried on the politics page and concentrates on his excuses whilst avoiding mentioning the actual comments that were so offensive such as hairy, barren lesbians and gay bashing.

Spot anymore BBC news censorship…list it all here….



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426 Responses to Midweek Open Thread

  1. johnnythefish says:

    Doing catch up on ‘Escape to the Country’ which up until today, bar a none-too-hectoring excess of ‘sustainability’ and ‘renewable energy’ messages, is pretty watchable in a soothing kind of way, helped by the fact the presenters aren’t the shrieking, wobbly-voiced types that are all too common on TV and radio these days.

    Anyroad, this episode’s house hunting was in Lincolnshire and we were given the lowdown on Grimsby’s long-lost fishing industry (it was once the world’s largest fishing port).

    Our presenter informed us this demise was due to the ‘Icelandic cod wars of the seventies’ – no mention at all of the real reason shared by pretty well all the residents of Grimsby, which was the EU’s Common Fisheries Policy introduced in the early 80s – the main reason behind the town voting overwhelmingly for Brexit.

    To add insult to Memory Hole-induced injury, we then had a visit to a traditional fish smoking house WHICH HAS BEEN GIVEN PROTECTED STATUS BY THE EU (camera pans to EU plaque on the wall).

    Still spinning Orwell?

    P.S. Feel free to comment on the sly, pro-EU BBC bias and fake reporting, Blackwell, the floor is yours…..


    • theisland says:

      Scrap the BBC.
      Here is the real story by Austin Mitchell, Lab, MP for Grimsby for 40 years

      “Because ‘Skipper’ Ted Heath was conned into accepting ‘equal access to a common resource’, our waters are open to any citizen of another EU country with a boat and a net. There’s no legal basis to the EU’s demand …
      In my time as MP for Grimsby, I witnessed the over-fishing that the Common Fisheries Policy had led to, and have watched as foreign vessels suspected of over-fishing escaped checks by inspectors because they were too fast, while British boats that had done nothing wrong had nets inspected.
      One of the worst scandals was the flagrant abuse of the rules which have allowed foreign vessels to register as British to cynically catch our quota.
      Most surreally, I was once introduced to a man who I was told was the ‘chair of the Fleetwood (Lancashire) Fishing Vessel Owners’. He was Spanish and spoke little English.”

      Now fishermen are again being used as bargaining chips by the government.
      But it’s not just about the demise of our fishing industry – it’s about us reclaiming our territorial waters (200 miles). In other words as important as securing our borders – anathema to the EU and their propaganda arm the BBC.

      My red lines – Borders, Territorial waters, Defence. No compromise.
      Bring out the gun boats!


  2. Thoughtful says:

    I have noticed over the past couple of days on Radio 4 a concerted effort being made to de toxify the Left wing safe spaces of major UK charities. It is a blatant campaign with plenty of quips being inserted about the vital work of charities in nearly every program from a foreign shithole (and they broadcast from a lot of those).

    It is culminating tomorrow in an overt series of programs solely about the UK charity sector and surprise surprise they will be covering the latest scandals to hit the left. Clearly this is a program made post Oxfam, and which would almost certainly never have been made if it had not been for the difficulties their left wing pals now find themselves in.

    It’s like a white knight riding to their rescue, and it stinks!

    In this first episode, Matthew asks what we think about when we think about charities, and examines whether the reality is different.
    examines some of the recent scandals surrounding the charity sector,
    an evening for volunteers who want to work with refugees and asylum seekers,

    Watch out for more of this because I’m sure every other BBC channel will be doing everything they can to help out their embattled pals regardless of merits.


    • StewGreen says:

      Yes 11am that charity prog is on ..does look like the PR depts of charities have an input to Matthew Taylor’s 3 episode series.
      “In Leeds and Bradford, Matthew visits :
      #1 …
      #2 an evening for volunteers who want to work with refugees and asylum seekers,
      #3 …”

      “How efficient are charities’ fundraising operations?
      Has the big increase in money spent on fundraising recently resulted in more money coming into the sector? And how does what we imagine charities do to raise money differ from the reality?”


  3. Sluff says:

    Deep joy.
    It’s International Women’s Day, a total wankfest for the virtue-signallers and victimhood specialists at the BBC. Especially those ‘self-identifying as female’. FFS.
    Featuring yet another attempt to get more girls into STEM occupations.
    Just one question for the BBC.
    Is there an International Men’s Day?
    You get the idea.
    An initiative to address the vast under-representation of men in, for example, medicine, dentistry, and nursing.
    Thought somehow not.


  4. JimS says:

    It has been said that people with an IQ of below 85 are virtually employable and if anything we need smarter people if we are to do better in the future as a country.
    Obviously there are exceptions among individuals but looking at this site perhaps we should be ‘open door’ to Hong Kong, Singapore, South Korea, Japan, China, Taiwan, Italy, Iceland, Mongolia and Switzerland.
    Certainly we shouldn’t be too keen on people from Afghanistan, Iran, Jordan, Nigeria, Pakistan, Uganda, Algeria, Libya, Bangladesh, India, Zimbabwe etc. and certainly not from Somalia (68)!

    If all these ‘Social Justice Warriors’ that ‘know’ that we plebs are wrong about mass immigration and Brexit etc. should be taking their intellects to some of the ‘sub-85’ nations? Mass emigration is surely the only valid moral stance? Equality, innit?


  5. Sir_Arthur_Strebe-Grebling says:

    International Women’s Day.


  6. Pounce says:

    So the bBC has finally got round to reporting a knife attack in Vienna last night where a family of three were seriously stabbed by a man , who then ran off and attacked another man 30 mins later.
    Austria attack: Afghan man admits Vienna stabbings
    Funny the arrested man is an 23 year old Afghan, and the bbC reports the following:
    “The man, an Afghan national, has denied a political motive for the attacks.”
    Political?, the neighbourhood of Praterstern, where both attacks took place, is home to much of Vienna’s small Jewish community.

    I wonder why the bBC left that salient snippet out.


    • Guest Who says:

      Clearly awaiting key context to be provided by one less uniquely funded to the tune of a compelled £4Bpa, and without 19,999 colleagues spending most the day watching their pension pots.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Pounce ,
      Noticed that too – stabbings in major cities by illegals takes time to be reported on al Beeb – or not at all. Nor would there be a map of when and where these attacks take place . People on this site may be aware but the way msm does/does not report these incidents but sooner or later the truth will out. Certain.


  7. RobRoy says:

    BBC Inside Science today. I’ve heard plenty of tosh regarding climate change but today it sank to new levels. I tuned in because at least Rutherford wasn’t presenting the programme, but it made no difference. Here’s my complaint I’ve just fired off to the BBC.

    Complaint: Racist, offensive content

    This is related to offensive comments and poor quality content. The item on Inside Science was about women in IT/computing (specifically writing apps I believe) and the lack of women, especially BAME women in IT.

    The female guest was from a project to encourage more BAME women to train (no problem with that) but then she said something along the lines that they’d created a safe space for BAME women to train away from ‘the white man’s glare’ – the words in quotes were her actual words. I nearly swerved off my car the road.

    I expect this sort of rubbish identity political twaddle on Radio 5, but not on Radio 4 and specifically Inside Science. Imagine if someone had said the same with ‘black’ instead of ‘white’! I was in IT through the 80s and 90s and managed a team of 12 programmers. I had 4 women (including 2 BAME). Where is the guests evidence that BAME women can’t train under ‘the white man’s glare’? It’s a science programme, why wasn’t this assertion questioned. Why was it even broadcast?

    The BBC are obsessed with identity politics and appears to make people believe because of the colour of their skin or gender, they can’t be successful. Whoever puts this ridiculous idea into their heads is doing them no favours and makes everything about race. In fact, to keep going on about this is racist. Martin Luther King will be rolling in his grave – so much for having a dream about the day no one would give a damn about the colour of people’s skin.


    • johnnythefish says:

      Well done, RR, but expect the standard ‘opinions not our own’ disclaimer.


    • Pounce says:

      RR wrote:
      they’d created a safe space for BAME women to train away from ‘the white man’s glare’

      And yet the bBC sacked Sam Mason in 2008 when she asked for a non Asian driver when ordering a taxi for her 14-year-old daughter who she said would be “freaked out” by a turban-wearing driver.


    • StewGreen says:

      “WHITE MALE gaze” is an actual buzzword ..see Twitter

      Direct audio : The words are used at 10m47seconds
      Lola Odelola said : “Hi Graham (his name’s GARETH, but she being from London-land is not accustomed to Wales-land names)
      “BGT is an org that aims to diversify the tech industry” Diversify ? Focusing on black-girls is not diversifying is it ?
      “..by offering free workshops to BLACK women”
      “..and the ideas kinda that we provide a safe environment for black-wimmin to grow and learn
      without the pressures of the WHITE MALE gaze
      ..and other things impeding their learning”
      (she’s a bit weird , nervous and not able to speak proper English, probably used to a kind of London-Black-speak .. I guessed correctly that her family is Nigerian)
      Item featured : @LolaOdelola, Founder of BlackGirl.Tech
      (“workshops are a safe space for black women and non-binary people to learn and explore technology”)

      The preceding item at 7m54s was with
      Professor Margot Gerritsen, Founder of Women in Data Science Conference
      @margootjeg (I note she stopped openly tweeted 6 months ago ..I guess couldn’t handle the heat)
      @GM “user friendly more often equals MALE-friendly”
      Margote “The myths that , #1 you need an innate ability
      and #2 that in PoC & women that innate ability is not present, but is in MALES , particularly white or Asian”
      (her assertion to me seems false and is therefore a straw man)
      GM “The number of female CompSci grads is DOWN to 16% from 18% ten years ago ”

      Presenter Gareth tweeted
      note the trendy gif graphic

      BTW the items were just 4 mins in total

      Note #EverydayInvertedSexism how today we see 6 women panels for women’s events
      but it would be unusual to see 6 men lined up on a panel ..as they have to be inclusive


    • Tom_Kenny says:

      I listened to that programme and thought similar, although I heard the expression as “white man’s gaze”.

      What really mattered was the complete absence of any challenge to that notion from the interviewer, who seemed content to simply nod along.


  8. johnnythefish says:

    The BBC don’t seem to be discussing this:


    None of them ever mentions that the EU itself has identified the solution to this problem. None of them ever mentions this.

    It is a study commissioned by the European Parliament’s Policy Department for Citizens’ Rights and Constitutional Affairs. Written by Lars Karlsson, President of KGH Border Services, former Director of the World Customs Organisation and Deputy Director-General of Swedish Customs, it “provides background on cross-border movement and trade between Northern Ireland and Ireland and identifies international standards and best practices and technologies that can be used too avoid a ‘hard’ border as well as case studies that provide insights into creating a smooth border experience”.

    Wonder why?


    • StewGreen says:

      on the day the recent border news broke Farage immediately mentioned that EU report on his LBC show.


  9. theisland says:

    The press release was never sent but it was leaked to Guido.


    • gb123 says:

      Three Groucho Markx quotes apply to KS and the EU

      “Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.”
      (Jezza and Treeza also fit well)

      “Those are my principles, and if you don’t like them…well I have others.”
      (equally applicable to Treezer)

      “He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don’t let that fool you. He really is an idiot.”

      Just put any of them and since in wimins day also applies to certain MPs. (shout out for DA and AS !)


  10. Up2snuff says:

    At long last. On TWatO (R4, 1-1.45pm today) an alternative to ‘the Mr & Miss Skrypal were killed an agent or agents unknown of the Russian State on the orders of the Kremlin’ narrative, so keenly pushed by the BBC.

    Perhaps it was crime and gangster related?

    But it did not come from the BBC. Instead the thinking was done for them by a contributor. There’s a long list of options but exactly like some politicians who say they are not going to speculate, the BBC continue to do exactly that but only while ploughing the one furrow when many others exist with earth yet to be turned.

    The Corporation that brings us regular doses of John le Carre forgets what he teaches in many of his books. For example, if a traitor is a traitor once, he might be persuaded to be a traitor again, this time against his new paymasters.


  11. MarkyMark says:

    Laugh … I really am crying ….


  12. Number 7 says:

    The BBC is going overboard about some racist chanting against a black student at Nottingham Trent ‘University’.


    Two ‘men’ have been arrested!
    It is interesting to listen to the video recordings on the BBC and Sky.
    The BBC recording has been edited to make it difficult to make out the words said.
    The Sky recording, to my ears, sounds as though the perpetraters had a recognisable accent, not Nottingham/British. This probably explains the need for editing by the BBC.


  13. taffman says:

    I had the misfortune of a quick peep of ‘Question Time’ this evening. My conclusion? – A heavily biased panel. No change there then.
    Where is Ofcom?
    Do they still exist?
    Are they just an over paid QUANGO?…………………..

    Conclusion – Thank God I don’t waste my money on the TV poll tax. It is now used to pay for my annual fish & chips bill for the year. More nourishing and beneficial for my health.


    • Deborah says:

      We lasted less than 5 minutes of QT last night. When the self-opinionated George butted in about the Russian poisoning and was allowed to continue without the Chairman (or should I say the regular person representing the Left) not telling him to wait his turn. I thought that was what Chairmen were supposed to do. George reminded me of Owen Jones and other than filling a quota why does anyone at the BBC think I am interested in what George has to say?
      I wonder what the real viewing figures for QT are – probably less than any massaged figures that the BBC care to put out.


  14. taffman says:

    This was ‘on the cards’…………..
    “The court also heard he had arrived in Britain in the back of a lorry via the Channel Tunnel in October 2015.”


  15. taffman says:

    Compare and contrast ……………………
    “Trump tariffs: US President imposes levy on steel and aluminium”
    “Asia-Pacific nations sign sweeping trade deal without U.S.”


  16. taffman says:

    Come on Al Beeb researchers, wake up, can you tell us more about this?
    Kim Jong Un extending invitation to meet with Trump, official says
    Are sanctions working?
    Good old Donald Trump !
    0015 AM


    • taffman says:

      Thanks Al Beeb!
      “This breaking news story is being updated and more details will be published shortly. Please refresh the page for the fullest version.”
      What, no negative spin available yet ?
      0031 AM


      • tipple says:

        Sky are trying to put a negative spin on it already.

        Was trump too hasty in accepting this? How likely will this be to a lasting resolution do you think?


        • Loobyloo says:

          Who needs movies with today’s politics?! Kim Jong is a nice well meaning guy, and the Saudis are a progressive regime, or so you’d think by reading the MSM. On the other hand Trump is the cause of all evil….to be bashed at any possible opportunity.


  17. tipple says:

    Ha, ha. How are they going to spin the Trump and Kim Jong Un meeting? What a nightmare for them! Trump has made a difference when Obama did nothing.


  18. taffman says:

    “EU demands 2.7bn euros of ‘unpaid customs duty’ from UK”
    Why is our negotiating team so supine?
    Why are there no UK “Demands “?


  19. Loobyloo says:

    Why is Queer Eye connecting so much with viewers?

    BBC advertising Netflix, because they don’t make any good programmes anymore, and because gay issues trump the no adverts rule.


  20. Beeb Brother says:

    Their tone towards Trump has markedly inproved. They must have received an unprecedented number of complaints; it would also not surprise me if someone high up had had a word as well. For all their disparagement of us ‘low information’ Little Englanders, they do not think that maybe it is a bad idea to continuously insult the world’s most powerful man on our behalf.

    Why are so many health stories making the headlines? It strikes me as a bit of a cop out, a retreat from reporting what is actually going on in the country as that might hurt someone’s feelings.


    • Beeb Brother says:

      They must also realise that their attacks on him have damaged their credibility, as the gulf between Trump’s brilliance and their portrayal of him widens. The traditional smear attacks not only do not work but get returned with interest.

      He must know they do not speak for us. If you do not like someone then you just get by as calmly and politely as you can. The extent of their violent tantrum at his election has been a national disgrace. They should hang their heads in shame, as I mildly suspect they could be in private. They have let us down.


      • Deborah says:

        Sadly, I think that re Trump the damage has been done by the BBC. Whenever I hear his name being mentioned in conversation I get the same sort of comments that I have been getting from the BBC. Nobody I fear in the UK except in ‘safe spaces’ dare admit either liking Trump or admitting any of his success.


    • Guest Who says:

      Bad idea to insult…?

      But, but… it is simply the rich history of satire for much the bbc is selectively noted, impartially.

      Ask Nish and the blonde.


      • Beeb Brother says:

        I read a good thread on Twitter about why BBC comedy is not funny anymore. Rather than surprising you with an unexpected truth about gender differences or whatever – something you know but cannot say – it just reinforces prejudices. The really funny stuff is often stuff everyone knows but doesn’t articulate, like Chris Rock’s material about platonic friendships from the man’s point of view who is actually thinking: “I have not f**ked her yet, but as soon as I figure it out I am in there.”

        Also the whole speaking truth to power element is gone as the BBC IS that power. They merely sneer. They could never do a sketch parodying how laughable all their ‘diversity’ insanity is but boy would that get belly laughs at how true but unsayable it all is.

        “And here is your sports desk with a woman who has never even watched a game of football and hates sport.”

        Or all the ethnic news presenters telling whitey to f**k off when he gives a report.

        God you could have an absolute field day slaughtering their sacred cows, just as That Was The Week That Was originally did so brilliantly to the establishment back in the sixties.


  21. Fedup2 says:

    The sound of teeth grinding on Toady as they had to announce that an American President is to meet with the president of North Korea was worth waking up early for . Mr Nick Bryant managed to spin it as the ‘unorthodox ‘ approach of mr trump and ‘not normal’ . They still don’t get it do they ? Mr trump is not a conventional polician and that was one of the reasons he got elected.
    Declaration of interest; I put a bet on the two meeting this year at 250/1 so fingers crossed.

    Al Beeb seems to thing it’s a great idea not to send the English footy team to the World Cup in three months . Why not just ban the wimmins team as no one will notice .or ban Russia from the commonwealth games. That’s just as effective . ( that ones for you maxi )


  22. Rich says:

    Their examples of “high-profile fans” are two gay men and three women. Three of them currently or have recently worked in presenting for the bBbc, the other two fit the profile.
    That’s why the bBbc are interested, Netflix are poaching their target audience. We can probably expect an ‘original’ bBbc version soon, there’s plenty of suitable ‘talent’ already in-house, although I don’t know how they’ll fit Clare Balding in.


    • Beeb Brother says:

      Why make it all about yourself? You support your team come hell or high weather – so what if a few people disapprove of who you have sex with?


  23. AsISeeIt says:

    The world may not have turned upside down but it has tilted a bit

    BBC tv news editors are clearly wrong-footed by the news from North Korea and it visibly sticks in the craw of their anti-Trump presenters to have to convey this bit of good news.

    No matter, Charlie Stayt and Naga Munchetty get to have a good old smirk at EU threats to put politically motivated tariffs on US goods such as Harley Davidsons, Bourbon and Levi Jeans. What a lark. And what a surprise that the supposedly ‘free market’ Brussels union is in fact behaving as it always has as a small-minded protectionist tariff bloc.

    Our BBC also seems to be somewhat bemused at what they call “State Dominated Russian Media” having a rather robust attitude toward their traitors.


  24. Roland Deschain says:

    I’ve found this site very slow for the past couple of days, with a few bad gateway messages thrown in for good measure.


    • StewGreen says:

      I confirm that, it mostly always got there, but took time to load
      I only got bad gateway once
      I thought it was my end of the connection


      • Kaiser says:

        I just got a error page from the ISP as if the dns entry didnt land on the site


      • Kaiser says:

        I just got a error page from the ISP as if the dns entry didnt land on the site


    • Emmanuel Goldstein says:


      #me too


  25. scribblingscribe says:

    Laura Bicker on the BBC website, commenting on Trump’s startling success in getting N Korea to discuss Nuclear arms decommissioning: “But if, just if, he (Trump) helps pull it off, it may reduce the threat of nuclear war and he could win himself a Nobel Peace prize.”

    Nobel Prize?

    Clearly this isn’t the same President Trump the BBC have been describing as a disaster for the last year.

    Obama received his Nobel prize with in hours of becoming president for being black and a democrat. He then over saw a world engulfed in flames, Russia invade Ukraine, Russia gain the upper hand in Syria, the Taliban return to Afghanistan and the biggest refugee problem the world has seen since the second world war.

    If the Nobel committee lowers itself to award its prize to a non lefty then it will be deserved. Trump has taken a high risk, single minded course and should be rewarded.


    • JamesArthur says:

      Scribbling..Can’t agree more but the other parts of the BBC – Breakfast and R4 have struggled to give Trump any credit for N. Korea. Their phrases are all about N Korea making an offer…Their commentators are all’ oh Trump isn’t a diplomat, could cause issues’
      What are they focusing on – reduction threat to Nuclear war or the Steel tariffs? The latter of course.

      One thing they don’t mention is the EU add a 25% tariff on US cars and the US only 5% on EU cars…You can see Trump’s point about the EU being unfair.


  26. Guest Who says:

    Ex bbc editor and subsequent frequent bbc guest expert on everything Paul Mason adds his wisdom….

    Some may say… ironic.


  27. Dystopian says:

    Why are we forced with threats of inprisonment to pay for this crap? If I wanted to pay for this rubbish I would buy “chat” magazine…but so don’t because it is gossip not news!



  28. miker22 says:

    Just heard the news bulletin at 8am on Radio 3. It seems Donald Trump has accepted the gracious invitation to talks from the North Korean leader, despite his previous insults. The notion that Trump’s uncompromising approach forced a rethink would make their heads explode.


  29. MarkyMark says:

    PROMISE – a declaration or assurance that one will do something or that a particular thing will happen OR the quality of potential excellence.


    Theresa May’s speech with promises


  30. JamesArthur says:

    Jesus, how often does John McDonnell get on the BBC?

    His use of the word ‘we think’ transposed to ‘we have’ in the context of how Labour have ‘forced’ the Government to change approaches to Child Services…sums him up. Often makes out something is fact when it’s supposition and wishful thinking


  31. Gunner says:

    Shock & horror in W1A as Trump’s ‘ham-fisted’ diplomacy achieves an extraordinary meeting. Ex “FCO Man in Pyongyang” pouring cold water on the whole thing (thank heavens), but why oh why didn’t this happen before ?? Er, must be due to the South Korean speed skaters.

    And meanwhile nasty Trump signs Steel and Aluminium tariff increases. Florida orange juice will cost another 5p per carton (that’ll larn him).


    • Payne by name says:

      I agree. The irony of the UK and Theresa the appeaser remonstrating Trump for wanting some tariffs behind our wall of EU protectionist tariffs is a joke.


  32. Up2snuff says:

    Biased BBC Radio News made themselves look really stupid in their prime 8.10am slot on TODAY and in the item that followed.

    Looking at the front pages of the UK main newspapers, it seems they, too, have a desire to match the BBC for biased rubbish.

    As for the TOADY discussion on Trump’s tariffs, why didn’t they get Dominic O’Connell on to explain what might happen once the tariffs are imposed and the possible disadvantages and advantages that may accrue? He at least appears to understand economics and business unlike Kamal Ahmed and Simon Jack.

    It shows how poor the BBC have become as a broadcaster that they have a correspondent from overseas who is better than their appointed Editors.


  33. Payne by name says:

    The BBC man, what a joke.

    So desperate to not give any credit to Trump for his tough N Korean rhetoric which they labelled unhelpful and juvenile, even though most of could that this was the only way to deal with a bully.

    And on the news that the N Korean leader has been forced to instigate a meeting, the BBC say – “Our correspondent says Kim Jong-un has also scored a propaganda win, first with the Olympics and now by being seen to reach out to the US.”

    Right, so the winner in this is the despotic leader of a failed and inhumane state. Nice one Beeb.


  34. Guest Who says:

    Kamal scooping lik a boss…


  35. G.W.F. says:

    Thankfully there are reporters who do more than the overpaid lackeys of the BBC.
    Lauren Southern continues her investigation into the crisis in South Africa.


    • fakenewswatcher says:

      GWF: Not only the farm murders and proposed land grabs are of interest, but also the implicit dissolution of the Rule of Law in SA. You’d think the BBC would be all over this – their favourite country for so long- like a bad rash, especially given the importance in the UK of the Rule of Law (?) But so far: only silence. Have i missed anything?


  36. StewGreen says:

    So Woman’s Day is over ?
    – Womans’ Hour at 18m44s invited listeners “We asked our guests what’s the best piece of advice your mother gave you ?”
    They then played clips of celebrity lefties ..like Jo Swinson
    Oh they made a special 3 min video for their RADIO show
    – Funny cos 5 Live had just had a phone in
    “#5liveYourCall: How has your mum shaped your life?”

    13:45pm Jess Phillips chats with with Nick Robinson

    15:45 Ony Uhiara reads a story by Lesley Nneka Arimah (Nigerian writer)

    16:30 Feedback might explain why BBC neutralise political surges from non-libs by calling them popularist


  37. StewGreen says:

    Wow pretty dishonest tweet by Team Corbyn


  38. theisland says:

    Not on BBC (yet) but how utterly laughable and disgusting is this.
    Bliar has been awarded a ‘Leadership Prize’ by the US Abraham Lincoln Presidential Library Foundation.

    According to the website http://www.alplm.org/NewsEvents/Events.aspx
    “The Lincoln Leadership Prize, established in 2006, recognizes outstanding leaders in diverse fields. In honoring leaders of meritorious quality, the Foundation celebrates Lincoln’s legacy of leadership. This prize is awarded to exceptional men and women for a lifetime of service in the Lincoln tradition, marked by great strength of character, individual conscience, and an unwavering commitment to the defining principles of democracy. It recognizes those individuals who accept the responsibilities imposed by history and demanded by conscience.”

    It is even more laughable that his ‘conscience’ allows him to accept this.


  39. MarkyMark says:

    A reminder of press censorship after Diana’s death ….”… magazine which was withdrawn from newsagents during Diana’s week.” @6:34

    “Christopher Hitchens – Diana The Mourning After [1998]”


    • G.W.F. says:

      I enjoyed the Diana jokes
      What did her driver drink on the night of the crash?
      A Harvey Wall banger


  40. StewGreen says:

    Budget news
    “Chancellor has £11bn windfall”
    ..that’ll be “despite Brexit”


  41. JimS says:

    Jeremy Vine sinks to a new low as he makes the possibility of a meeting between President Trump and North Korea a matter of great comedy. Dead Ringers, we are told, mocks ‘Trump’ because it is cathartic. You pathetic BBC snowflakes!

    Then they are shocked that it appears to be so easy to get an audience with the president, not like with the ‘clever’ Obama where he was kept hidden away. Yes, one had to do clever things like smashing up a Radio Shack clock and putting the bits in a metal suitcase.

    I can’t understand why it is ‘wrong’ to mock the dictator of North Korea yet stock-in-trade of the BBC to mock the elected leader of the USA.


    • Excartographer says:

      You beat me to it Jim, the ‘expert’ correspondent was as downbeat as I’ve heard to open the piece explicitly stating that “…..no good can come of this”
      Now it may be that I’m misremembering (as an old, hideously white male that comes with the territory) but up until today haven’t the BBC been banging on about the need for the Trump administration (seldom President Trump) to instigate a dialogue with NK rather than make world ending threats? OK, we’ve now got the possibility of dialogue and now that’s a bad thing. I’m very confused.


  42. Jason Twig says:

    Satisfying as it would be to hear the BBC give President Trump recognition for the part he played in this, let’s not credit the beeboid Bicker with any sort of non-group think here.
    Read it again. She is not referring to the possibility that Trump could win himself the Nobel Peace Prize. She is referring to President Moon Jae-in of South Korea.
    According to her it is Moon Jae-in who has done all the legwork here and he is the one who could deserve the Nobel recognition, not President Trump.
    Yes, I had to read it twice because I couldn’t believe a BBC reporter would mention Trump and the Nobel Prize in the same sentence.
    They may be forced to give some grudging, faint praise to Trump buried deep in the story but to sway so far from the anti-Trump narrative would be unthinkable.
    God knows how they would report it if President Trump did get Nobel recognition. Newsroom meltdowns all around.


    • Guest Who says:

      “All part of the rich history of satire the BBC curiously avoided during the Obama terms, impartially”.


  43. MarkyMark says:

    As the employer of the UK Politicians … can you remember signing off their 18% pay increase?


    April 2010​ ​£65,738
    April 2018 £77,379


  44. StewGreen says:

    Re “White Male Gaze”
    it’s a clumsy racist term to express that things that take place within a local culture or sociological framework

    The current UK sociological context is is that education & media both seem *liberal-establishment* ..so that sets the rules
    ie teachers /journos all seem to be lib/lefties
    & if you are not lib/lefty, then you are not so free to express your views and have to stay in the closet.

    Likewise Islamic countries often have a cultural context of “follow the big man”, rather than free thinking , so have rote learning in preference to independent problem solving.
    So yes you get people who are good at large demonstrations etc. rather than inventing things.


    • StewGreen says:

      Couple this to “2+2=5 certainty” and the libs/lefties give themselves Licence to lie
      BBC.007 Licenced to Lie
      ..hence the way everyone knew about Brian Coxes sleeze but the BBC kept it off air, for the public good.


    • Guest Who says:

      Given the trend for creating racist descriptions, one can only imagine what can be applied before the look Diane Abbott affects whenever asked a question involving actual data.

      For now I’ll leave that blank, just in case.


  45. StewGreen says:

    So on International Women’s Day they announced that the top female business leader is a racist bully.
    ..Investigation into Lady Judge head of the institute of Directors .That’s IoD That’s the full on Remainiac campaigning org


  46. Jason Twig says:

    Not just the BBC, but UK mainstream media as a whole just cannot refrain from the Trump bashing.

    Lefty and longtime anti-Trump presenter Shelagh Fogarty on LBC right now:
    “Is Trump right to have offered talks? … Is he being played? … Is he naive?”

    Sometimes you get the idea these media pundits would prefer a nuclear war rather than admit that Trump was right to use a strong response to deal with a bully – or that he could ever be right about anything.

    Their little emotional brains cannot conceive that someone they snearingly regard as a racist and a misogynist – and even worse, sends hurty tweets – could do a better job in a short time than the last two did in their full terms.

    Error… error… error…does not compute…does not compute…


  47. wronged says:

    During the Saudi ruler’s visit the BBC have been going out of their way to show demonstrators opposing his visit.
    I saw about twenty of them, nearly all of them seem to come the Middle East.
    So where are these ‘intelligent’ lefty students ?

    Can’t wait for Trump to visit which will show lefty hypocrisy.

    What a bunch of wasters these students are.
    I would never give a job to a lefty no nothing.


  48. StewGreen says:

    Mo Farah : Yesterday’s Times reported the Germans has a different story
    It was racism, he just didn’t understand the private security guard was saying they need to do another check, and touched him on the shouldrer.
    Then Mo started filming and the police were called.

    BTW this just came up


  49. wronged says:

    Yesterday I met up with some old mates from university. One of them is and was a lefty. Used to be a bit of a hippie back in the day.
    Anyway, whereas everyone else who were a bit lefty in those days have ‘moved on’ and became more right wing.
    He hasn’t changed at all, he still believed in the coming revolution and he says Corbyn will deliver it. I listened to his theories on the benefits of multiculturalism, it was then I spoke up against it. He then said I was a ‘racist’.
    As offensive as this term is, I ignored it but did explain to him that I considered him to be a ‘Stalinist’ in his thoughts.

    He went mad,he started shouting at me. So it is okay for him to call me a name such as racist but not okay for him to be called a Stalinist.
    Ironic since when at university I was one the few people that liked him!
    This got me thinking, the Left don’t like to be called Stalinist. They really don’t like it.
    So if you meet people who support the Corbyn Left, call them a Stalinist as it is exactly what they are. See what reaction you get.
    I’d to see a people on BBC Question Time panels call the likes of Thornberry, Abbott et al as Stalinists. I would be interested in the reaction.


    • Fedup2 says:

      I suspect that John McDonald – the prime minister in waiting – has a poster of Stalin in the office close to his plaque celebrating PIRA terrorists .


    • StewGreen says:

      His reaction is cognitive dissonance
      ..Faced with evidence that his worldview is wacky.he has a tough choice.
      #1 Accept he’s been wrong all along
      #2 Double down in something he knows is wrong.
      Result brain gets overheated and be lashes out.


      • - Wild - says:

        Historically the Left always say that the previous lot of Leftists who gained power (with the usual consequences) were not really Leftists, or were Leftists who made mistakes, and their Leftist revolution will be different, so labelling (however accurately) them with names which were once applied to previous Leftists will not affect them.

        The reason he got so angry is that Leftists (if they are not simply cynical careeerists) are malignant narcissists who take all criticism badly. All that counts is their feelings. That is why pointing out the suffering caused by Leftist regimes will be a matter of indifference to them, merely something to be batted away with the rhetorical move that was then not now.

        If they really cared about (for example) the poor, they would not be on the Left. The reason why they talk over you and try to prevent you from speaking is that is they know they are wrong, but their anger has to find some vehicle – never expect factual consistency or even any interest in facts to distract them from what is essentially a howl of rage.


    • David R says:

      Sadly QT is not broadcast live, so any naming of Thornberry as a Stalinist could easily be edited out.


      • Scroblene says:

        I suppose it could be called a ‘Stain list’, you know, one where a grubby piece of paper which dirty little cheats use, is passed round all those sweaty hands before the editorial undermanager tears it up!


    • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

      I gather, when faced with the ‘you are a racist’ statement, one good riposte is to exclaim loudly, in public if possible, ” I’m no more a racist than you are a paedophile”


      • Scroblene says:

        An Aussie chum, when frustrated by mental trot lightweights, used to stymie lefties et al, by exclaiming ‘Did you know that polar bears are left-handed’?

        As lefties have had a sense of humour lobotomy, they wander off in some sort of daze…


    • Scroblene says:

      If I call one of my best friends – a labour voter – a Stalinist, she’ll give me the biggest hug of the day, and we’ll laugh ourselves silly!

      Y’see, she believes in the nice bits of socialism, not the Stalinist, Trots crap the bbbc spew out from Corbynistas.

      And I always praise President Trump as she hates him, and we then laugh like drains for ages!

      Pick your left wing friends and ignore the leftie mobs; they’ve got hell to pay for when they eventually get out of their genderstudies courses with a fail and a big fat debt.


    • Holly Selassie says:

      A good way to mess with the Left is to interchange words like Stalinist, Trot, Commie, Socialist(utopian) , Socialist(scientific), Marxist, International Marxist, or any number of combinations with “Alliance” “Group” on the ned. They themselves rarely know what they are-especially those under 60-Not many then.
      But they go ballistic if you call them the wrong thing and deliberately describe them as being one kind of Lefty scum when they themselves HATE that group..just say they`re all the same to you, and they`ll rage long after you`re gone.
      They rarely know why they`re Commies and not Socialist…and walk off as they`re telling you the difference.


  50. MarkyMark says:

    Have a go yourself …. copy this text if required ….

    . . . .

    Dear Anna Soubry,

    As your employer I cannot remember signing off your massive 18% pay increase during a time of economic struggle for the Many, but not some Few?

    I could be wrong and I did agree, but let me know how this happened and how all those Labour MPs shouting about austerity could let such a thing happen.


    April 2010​ ​£65,738
    April 2018 £77,379

    Yours sincerely,




    • Northern Dreamer says:

      Dear MarkyMark,
      In support of my fellow party member Anna Soubry, I would like to point out that by my calculation, MP’s pay has actually fallen by 72.1% since the Labour Party came to power in June last year. In fact, if we were to adopt the Venezuelan Bolivar, we would all be millionaires.
      Yours sincerely Diane Abbott MP, Labour & Communist Party of Britain Alliance.


      • MarkyMark says:

        Dear Diane, Thank you for taking the time to check that the clock is right at least once a day. I look forward To the RABBIT, in the STEW. For the Many, Not the Few.



        • Northern Dreamer says:

          Dear MarkyMark, I will be reporting your aggressive post to the proper authorities, namely, the Guardian and the BBC.
          Big Di.


          • MarkyMark says:

            Dear Diane Abbott (leader of the IWD movement),
            I look forward to not paying the TV license and going to lessons with the EU Referendum Remainer Anjem … I hear he gives a good solid sermon on the gifts of religion which will make me a good person.

            p.s. If i have diabetes type II will I be forgiven?

            Me! Me!


            • Northern Dreamer says:

              Dear MarkyMark, as long as the emissions from your Diabetes Type II do not exceed 200 Roger Harrabins per billion squillion millipedes, I don’t give a fuck what you drive.


              • Scroblene says:

                G and T due to you for funniest comment today ND!

                Can’t stop laughing actually..;0)

                As I don’t know where you are, I’ve got one here as a compromise! It’s an Anno craft gin, double of course, with full-fat Scweppes, ice and lemon! The dog is eating my Doritos too! Bliss!