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Local BBC1 news after the 10pm news on Sunday and the latest stabbed teenager. It’s ok he died because it has brought the community together.
I am having a good laugh. The Conservative Home Secretary humiliated and forced to resign by the combined efforts of Abbot and Lammy.
And now it looks like Treezer may go, and the Tories will suffer in the
May elections.
UKIP stand firm.
G
Me too- there’s no better site that a front bencher doing the Speech of shame and getting that ridiculous House of Commons to come together in false sympathy – just showing out of touch they are – and wondering why we think they are shit. Dawn butler has already called for May to resign to . My name has also been mentioned as needing to resign despite my prediction that hippy Rudd would be gone before Monday .
GWF,
Why should May go? Not a big fan of her either but broader picture suggests if she falls house of cards goes and smily jezzer see’s all the shoulder shrugging putin style pay off handsomely and he’s in with a crack.
I’m in process of packing a large samsonite just in case.
Hon
Be interesting what the £does in the morning because if May goes its an election with the fools voting for labour , a referendum and we land up staying in a federal socialist EUreich and accepting the € for all the inconvenience we ve caused.
Fed,
all the actions playing out are all part of a much wider and more cynical game play and to my utter frustration the remainers and more so the propaganda arm seem to be succeeding in their machinations.
Brexit imbalance in the cabinet whilst we have so many tory traitors means government falls – new elections – potential for marxist nut job on No 10. The very worst of any world you can imagine.
honestus, PM is vulnerable not just as former Home Sec but on Skripal & Douma statements to the House.
I have an uncomfortable feeling that both Rudd & May may have been set up by Whitehall.
honestus
Yes, you are right. If May goes there is a high chance that Corbyn will be in no10, unless she is replaced quickly with a popular leader.
I am resigned to a Labour Government.
But, given the internal hostility within Labour I predict it will implode soon after taking office, especially as the dream promises will not be honoured.
That will give time for those who want a genuine Brexit government to get organized.
GWF,
the ‘new’ politics will means as soon as jezzer is in all the rules will be changed/traitor mp’s deselected etc. These are the politics of the despot – not for nothing is he referred to as ‘the leader’ . laughable, but chilling as well!
The Week in Westminster
Amber Rudd resigns – jack mr Hattie Harmon – dromie and fucking vince – no party any more cable and Diane abbot unable to restrain herself from getting on the airwaves .diane sounded almost sober apart from when she was asked what 2 plus 2 was and she said it wasn’t fair to ask her difficult questions .
Ambers ‘ resignation speech Monday will be a real tear jerker .
Beeboids and politicians cannot get how pissed off people are about being overwhelmed by foreigners of all and every hue .
The Government needs to get Brexiteers in the cabinet.
That’s what we all voted for or the Tory Liberals and Remainer May are toast.
Replace May with Rees-Mogg next .
Taff
Hope you’re staying up for Maxi who will pop up at @ 3am trolling with his / her / it’s selective cut and paste circus before heading back to the comfort of the guardian comments ….
The Government needs to get Brexiteers in the cabinet.
That’s what we all voted for or the Tory Liberals and Remainer May are toast.
Replace May with Rees-Mogg next .
This is what the government promised and this is what we voted for …………..
The are still not listening.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/prime-minister-pledges-to-control-and-reduce-immigration
Will the Remainer PM replace Amber Rudd with a Brexiteer or another Remoaner ?
The acid test.
Is the Government serious about getting out of the EU?
So another coup for the Guardian of the public good and a ‘leaked’ memo brings down a cabinet minister. Odd, isn’t it, that the Guardian always seems to come up with these privileged and private internal documents just at the right moments? It’s almost as though there were civil servants actively trying to delay Brexit and bring down the government but that’s unlikely of course.
Interesting to think that when the previous Elizabeth was on the throne such behaviour would have attracted Walsingham’s attention, along with all his intriguing ways and means of extracting sources of sub rosa information.
Beltane
These …………???
https://www.pcs.org.uk
https://www.pcs.org.uk/search/node/brexit
The nation needs a new Walsingham.
Didn’t Elizabeth, have the hand of some chap lopped off; after he’d written something about her that she was displeased by?
Global Warming
What warming?
They just don’t know how to handle it now…………
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43943001
taff, I thought any weather was the result of ‘climate change’ (the ‘science’ formerly known as global warming formerly known as man-made global warming), despite models predicting warm wet winters and hot dry Mediterranean summers.
Meanwhile, US heading for coldest April on record.
Still, a failed hypothesis is better than none at all, as they say, and best be on the safe side and all that.
Glass half full of CO2 or half empty of CO2?
I clicked on report comment by mistake. Please ignore.
There is something peculiar about the second page of this thread. Whenever I open it, it is hijacked by an advert for a book on Amazon. Anyone else experiencing this?
Solid post – al Beebus and the rest of the MSM fell on the Windrush story, many of whom were glad it kept the Telford RoPer child-rape atrocity of our TV screens and front pages; whilst also stifling coverage of the embarrassing lacunae in the narrative of the attempted culling of the Skripals.
So the bbc in fact pursued and grasped a ‘story’ that served to the exclusion of all else?
Apparently there seems to be a set of D-Notices banning the BBC and British media from reporting on the Skripals.
(1) Banning the media from talking to Dr Steven Davies, Consultant in emergency medicine, Accident and Emergency, Salisbury District Hospital. According to Davies, none of the patients experienced the symptoms of nerve agents.
(2) Banning the media from mentioning the drug Fentanyl.
(3) Banning the media from talking to the Skripals.
(4) Banning the media from questioning Nick Bailey.
(5) Banning the media from mentioning Pablo Miller.
(6) Banning the media from mentioning the Blond Woman. Could be Pablo Millers wife? Other reports say she was American, possibly CIA.
Looks like the Skripals provided fake information to Christopher Steele and Pablo Miller who was an active MI6 agent working for Orbis Business Intelligence on the fake Trump dosier.
Have you written to the DG, Richard?
That would be the way to find out. Put Tony Hall on the rack.
Gordon Corera, “BBC Security Correspondent” did try to illustrate the D-notices in a tweet, with a picture of MI6 Headquarters.
Orbis Business Intelligence is a company which provides sophisticated cross-border intelligence research services to VIP customers. Orbis boasts of its ability to meld a high-level source network (MI5,MI6 and GCHQ) with a sophisticated investigative capability. Which means that former spies with a high-level security clearance and with access to classified information, state secrets and other areas of research restricted to the general public, such as Porton Down, are open to do business with anyone with money. To put it bluntly, any network that is unaccountable, extrajudicial, hidden and, above all, inextricably dependent on digital/internet information and communication technologies that artificialise, denaturalise, and psychoticise the physical world can be turned against former employers, the Russians, Donald Trump, Brexiteers, the Skripals and the people of Salisbury and Britain. With total immunity from prosecution, using D-Notices.
The British government supports the existence of Orbis Business Intelligence because it combines the ideas of George Orwell’s 1984 with Liberal Fascism, to produce power and wealth for the Pro-EU, Liberal, Deep State elitists, or what can be called the Cultural Marxist swamp.
Got a link to the tweet, Richard?
I did wonder about ‘D’ notices being issued on Salisbury but I also have a notion that they were discontinued under the last Labour Government. May need to research that one when time permits.
I, personally, would be very cautious about believing stuff about Orbis Intell. They may be another noakesy 😉 sort of operation. There’s a well-known UK barrister (can’t recall name right at this moment) who loves conspiracy theories. (He’s defended/prosecuted lots of high profile human rights type cases) Much as he loves good conspiracy theories, as I do from time to time, he states firmly his belief that about 99% per cent are down to government or other organisational ‘cock-ups’.
My feeling on the Skripal story is that it is more likely a BBC cock-up of immense magnitude. Pure editorial and journalist deployment incompetence.
It may be an inevitable consequence of their moving from a position of strict independence and neutrality to being a liberal Left (and probably infiltrated by stronger socialists of varying degrees) organisation who are working to their own political agenda and objectives.
As evidence I would offer, for example, the last twenty days or so of ‘Windrush Generation’/immigration story following compared with the complete overlooking of, say, the vile Vince Cable slur.
The SJW takeover of my beloved Radio 4 continues apace.
First ‘Profile’ was about David Lammy, who has a PHD in shit stirring. He is not fit for the previously lofty heights of ‘Profile’ as his sole achievement to me seems being black. His grandmother thinks he will be Prime Minister! I could not get back to sleep at that horrifying thought. I hate how when someone goes along with their narrative they are on all the time, like Owen Jones, Clegg Toynbee and countless others. It must take such effort to keep their house of lying cards standing up.
Then ‘Book of the Week’ is from writer Benjamin Zephaniah, whose work was I suspect written with BBC commission in mind: maximum focus on ‘diversity’ with story telling and those other staid artistic imperatives being a secondary consideration. If you were a black woman or whatever you could literally fart for half an hour and the BBC would commission it.
Then the fantastic ‘More or Less’ programme about statistics has a section on the ‘gender pay gap.’ They could have some real fun with hours worked/careers chosen etc but that would be heresy. Instead we have the same old finger wagging about not enough women on FTSE 100 boards; no clever use of statistics – what the whole programme is about – just a whining, Groundhog segment shoehorned in to spoil the programme.
Apparently it was a ‘problem’ that not enough minorities listen to Radio 4 so they are trying to attract them. Why can different groups not like different things? I thought diversity was our strength and I am sure an Indian gay or whatever would be just as pissed of by this ‘diversity’ over quality crap as me. All they will do is alienate their current loyal listeners and their multi million pound diversity quest will have ingeniously managed to annoy everyone. They have spoiled something very good by trying to create something perfect.
Has MP David Lammy been questioned on spending £650 on a bike using MP expenses (have other MPs done the same) and not being seen riding it to Parliament to save the planet and reduce emissions … plus using his expenses honestly.
#DavidLammyBikeMystery
{old biased bbc post
I listened to More or Less and their ‘gender gap’ piece and hoped they would ask the ‘obvious’ question, “Why?”
This little bear thinks that people that run big companies should be up to the job, that is ‘why’ they are selected. What next? Do management boards have to have targets for blue/green/brown eye colour, just to fit in with some Marxist idiot’s latest attempt to ruin the country?
I think that we all too easily forget that the BBC doesn’t give a tuppenny damn about what we, the former core audience, think.
They are the broadcasting arm of the left, and the left certainly aren’t interested in us.
You only have to have a cursory look at the situation in Sweden, to see that the government, leftie groups, and the broadcasters operate hand in glove. You are not allowed to express a diverging opinion to the prescribed one.
Most Swedes subscribe to the “we are all one big, happy, clappy family, and everyone is welcome, even if they do make a few minor mistakes, and people get raped, injured, or killed. The perpetrators should be encouraged, not penalised, and it is our fault that these things happen to us. We must be more welcoming, more pliant”.
So the press don’t report, and the police don’t deal, and everyone just carries on, not looking around them.
This scenario is becoming increasingly redolent of Germany, and now the Former UK.
So, expecting the BBC to be impartial, or to encourage opposite ways of thinking to their “norm” is like wishing for the moon. It ain’t gonna happen, and it’s certainly going to get worse.
The next Labour government will assimilate the BBC (and other broadcasters) into its evil machinations, until all opposition is destroyed (and driven underground). There is no groundswell of fight-back in the British, at the moment, that I can see. I’ve no idea, now, what would spur them to action, but I believe that the halberds and pitchforks that are left from the last time will remain in their hiding places for a good while, yet.
One rapid but fairly sure guide to the social atmosphere of a country is the parade-step of its army. A military parade is really a kind of ritual dance, something like a ballet, expressing a certain philosophy of life. The goose-step, for instance, is one of the most horrible sights in the world, far more terrifying than a dive-bomber. It is simply an affirmation of naked power; contained in it, quite consciously and intentionally, is the vision of a boot crashing down on a face. Its ugliness is part of its essence, for what it is saying is ‘Yes, I am ugly, and you daren’t laugh at me’, like the bully who makes faces at his victim. Why is the goose-step not used in England? There are, heaven knows, plenty of army officers who would be only too glad to introduce some such thing. It is not used because the people in the street would laugh. Beyond a certain point, military display is only possible in countries where the common people dare not laugh at the army. The Italians adopted the goose-step at about the time when Italy passed definitely under German control, and, as one would expect, they do it less well than the Germans. The Vichy government, if it survives, is bound to introduce a stiffer parade-ground discipline into what is left of the French army. In the British army the drill is rigid and complicated, full of memories of the eighteenth century, but without definite swagger; the march is merely a formalized walk. It belongs to a society which is ruled by the sword, no doubt, but a sword which must never be taken out of the scabbard.
Jeremy Corbyn backs Al Quds protests {youtube} … which is an Iranian idea of protesting against oppressors … but in Iran in apr2018 ….
“Our enemy is right here (in Iran), they (Iranian Government) say it’s America”.
“Girls of Enqelab (Revolution) Street” movement against the compulsory Islamic dress code (Hijab which the Uk foreign office promotes #WorldHijabDay) in the country.
Last week Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, shut down his Telegram channel, saying that this would help “safeguard the national interest”. BBC Monitoring reports that this move was widely seen as a precursor to an outright ban.
Slogans included “I am an overthrower”. (of the Iranian Government)
Iranians launch banknote protest to get round censorship {bbc.co.uk 29apr2018}
– Will Jeremy Corbyn condemn the Iranian oppressors .. who he backs when protesting Al Quds? 2018 is getting weird.
Just listened to Spidery Webb, on Toady discussing Rudd’s resignation with Damian Green; Webby fretful that it be a Remainer to replace her: to maintain the “balance” in the cabinet.
FFS! Balance? It is chock full of Remainers including Ma May herself, which is a large part of the problem; in how the negotiations with the scEUm are being conducted on our behalf.
#MindTheLeaveGap !!!
Ffs we voted to leave the EU – ‘balance’ is irrelevant but fits the BBC’s subversive Remain agenda.
What the cabinet needs is ministers who are committed and imaginative enough to make Brexit happen, including a no deal option if necessary.
Why does there need to be a balance, seeing that the Government’s job is to put into effect the decision to LEAVE? The whole project has been hijacked by people who never wanted to leave in the first place.
Happy dead Hitler day everyone . I wonder if they still get his skull out in the Kremlin and use it as an ashtray?
Meanwhile The Toady Amber Special is on a roll whilst Wimmins House will be full of ladies in politics .
The best response ever … You think Churchill was racist? Holy shit, wait until you hear about the guy he beat.. {twitter}
He was rather anti-German.
Women leaves tolerant Muslim Country and goes to intolerant European Country because of her hair … does this mean a person can change their hairstyle and get refugee status in a different country – and say they will be persecuted if they go back because of their hair?
Beauty standards: Egypt’s curly hair comeback {bbc.co.uk 30apr2018}
– Notice the BBC article title, nothing about intolerance or religion or if the BBC £3.5bn News Service finds out why such beliefs are held.
– All cultures are equal – but some cultures make you leave the culture.
– “Yet most are forced at a very early age to straighten it, to fit society’s perception of beauty.”.
– “society’s perception of beauty” – BBC never ask WHY?
BBC’s youth arm back in its happy place again.
On a serious note does anyone know where I can put a bet on who the next home sec will be -?
Can’t see it paddy
Bbc editorial integrity means only noticing what the bbc holds dear, and ignoring what does not suit the bbc narrative.
The BBC should encourage more diversity… The BBC is ever keen to promote ‘diversity’, but in its excitement over Amber Rudd seems to be missing a trick: why don’t we have a diverse mixture of capable and incapable cabinet ministers, rather than exclusively incapable ones? For a decade or so, the position of Home Secretary has been mainly appointed on the basis of gender and incompetence only: Jacqui Smith, Theresa May, Amber Rudd. Even prior to that, incompetence was rated as the most important characteristic: David Blunkett, Charles Clarke, Comrade Baron John Reid etc. Come on BBC: speak up for more diversity in British political life!
In Harry Potter the hero gets accused of being the villian by the media… maybe JK Rowling can apply this to Trump and Kim Jong-un?
– Harry Potter the hero is hunted for telling the truth – by the media and the Ministry of Magic (Government).
– Media portray the hero as evil by twisting the truth.
– The Ministry and Media do not believe that an evil exists.
“Freedom of speech in practice!
He’s free to say it.
I’m free to tell him that art is subjective and even if he doesn’t like Harry Potter, there’s probably a book out there he’ll truly love. The important thing is to keep reading. Good luck x” – JK Rowling
Toady watch
Al beeb brexit denial never ends . Now they have immigration control in the sights using the West Indians as their vehicle .
They ignore the point that one of the main reasons people voted for brexit was of uncontrolled immigration .
Beeboids like nick Robinson are so deep in their bubble that they cannot conceive of how ordinary people feel about what has been done to us . Oh Maggie – where are you?
I had to turn of radio 4..The BBC are indeed conflating the Windrush situation which everyone agrees needs sorting (despite the fact I still haven’t heard of anyone who was actually deported and not heard much from the 1000’s of Windrush generation themselves).
The BBC are just using this as their Government bashing vehicle..and anti Brexit
I have to say I still think we are all doomed with May as the leader of the Country and Khan in London
James – yes I went for the off switch too. That’s my ration of al beeb for the day
Next home sec – Gauke
Davit
Patel
IDS
I have not listened to any of it – just the same boring race pimping virtue signalling. There are so many alternative forms of entertainment these days; nobody in their right mind is going to carry on subjecting themselves to the BBC ‘news.’
Beeb
Sadly it’s something I grew up with so very hard to let go …. I really feel disconnected from all of it now. So glad I don’t pay for it.,
Nick Robinson was disgraceful on that. If I was DG, the first e-m or letter of complaint to hit my desk would see him sacked for his conduct this morning.
Don’t they love that phrase “hostile environment”! Jo Coburn couldn’t stop saying it on the Daily Politics this afternoon.
JK Rowling (with 14 million followers) pushing for change …. so no lies were told in the Remain campaign? Hillary Clinton a world leader? Back of the queue pressure from an foreign president? No EU Army? To stay in the future EU you have to adopt the currency?
“I voted Leave in 2016. I’ve since realised the Leave claims were based on lies & misinformation & are undeliverable. In a democracy it’s ok to change your mind. I have & am a #RemainerNow campaigning for a #PeoplesVote on the final deal. Join me.”
Is it this JK Rowling, the BBC speed-dial favourite who contributes big money to the Labour Party and other causes:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2008/sep/20/labourconference.jkrowling
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/jun/05/jk-rowling-donates-to-tom-watsons-labour-deputy-leader-campaign
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-27793967
Or is it the popular author whose much-loved works have been cruelly described as little more than a plagaristic mixture of Goodbye Mister Chips and Ancient Greek legends?
A) Look for a Labour shill.
B) Share his opinion.
C) Hide behind asking a question if you ‘agree’.
And this… is BBC ‘news’.
Great post Guest
Bbc.
Not bbc.
Questions. Answers. The BBC. And…. the mistress of mumbling…
Guest, haven’t stopped laughing since flabbots first appearance. The woman is either cunning in her evasiveness or she is a complete idiot. I’m actually joshing, having followed her appearances for some time and being as frustrated as all the presenters trying to elicit a semblance of an intellectual response, it is abundantly clear that she is a complete idiot.
That there is even the remotest possibility that she aspires to one of the most important posts in government is both laughably ridiculous and frighteningly scary at the same time.
Well done to Morgan for actually challenging the idiot – BBBC are politically institutionally incapable.
Diane in Bbc studios is usually a different deal to elsewhere.
And even if the bbc’s Finest market rates fail to nurse her through without imploding, th3 bbc edit suite is there to sample the bits that suit and deep six the howlers.
Guest, I am still reeling as to why Labour would put forward the idiot that is Flabbot knowing that she is predisposed to a slow mumbling total lack of content delivery. I accept that she is shadow and perhaps they couldn’t avoid it, but these performances surely insult the many working Labour members who deserve to have their ideological views clearly and intelligently enunciated.
Labour are in effect treating their own supporters as fools who do not deserve quality representation.
And that the bbc keep screening her has me wondering if Owen and Alistair are correct that it is all a Tory plot.
Our dear Diane is not well. I think the arteries above, shall we say, shoulder level may not be fully operative. Your diagnosis, honestus, may well be correct if slightly imprecise. 😉 The clue, I fear, is in her widely varying facial colours seen in photographs.
Suspect she keeps the NHS busy and, if not, probably should do. A strict diet & exercise regime ought to be prescribed, one that a political life would not allow but retirement would permit.
If she was my mother, I would be very concerned about her.
If she was my mother I’d be suicidal.
third, you mean faced with maybe ten years (or more) of caring … ?
Robinson and Webb (and Kuensberg) are hyperventilating on R4 over their big triumph – re Rudd.
Why?
An incompetent Minister walked into a trap. The BBC/Guardian brigade stumbled onto a gift in the form of ‘Windrush’, and weaponised the issue of race. In part, by adding the words ‘generation’ and ‘scandal’. The trap was set.
The truth in all this is unimportant. (Contrary to what the media claim). I could write a 5 page essay on what their stance could have been, had they had genuine interest in ‘what went wrong’ and getting it fixed.
What Beeb/Guardian wanted was a scalp, because they have a second scalp in mind. And to use an opportunity for virtue-signalling, second to none. Last night Quinn had guests like Dromey and Cable (and Abbott?) – so no secret, as to the strategy.
So far, so predictable and -actually- unexciting. I do hope for Nick’s sake he doesn’t have a heart attack over this.
The BBBC and all of their poisonous tentacles have long set themselves up as kingmaker. Provided you are of the correct (or incorrect) political persuasion, you become the target and will be pursued relentlessly until you give in.
Corbyn, Flabbot, Mcdonnell et al enjoy an easy ride as their political credentials, according to the left wing propaganda corporation, are all fully compliant with lefty bubblism.
I always thought Windrush was a character in Reggie Perrin, when CJ kept getting his name wrong!
…sigh…
Grrrrrr!
Am still spitting after a vile TOADY Programme where Editor in Chief, Editors and Presenters reached a new low. Robinson & Webb were devious as well as completely incompetent at times and they should all be sacked by the DG before he, too, resigns.
Disgraceful, BBC.
Didn’t help that I had had a nightmare last night. Went to sleep following news of Rudd’s resignation. Dreamed during night that Theresa May, as revenge, called off Brexit and sought cancellation of the Article 50 notice. People were taking to the streets in protest when the dream took a more personal and distracting turn. Then I woke up. A relief to be awake but no relief from the toadies at the BBC!
Unbelievable pro Labour bias from the bbc.
“Amber Rudd resigns and Labours pledge on loans” in the very same headline.
Roughly translated “look how useless the Tories are and we’ll all be better off under Labour”
Diabolical!
Abolish the tv tax now!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-43937134
Homophobic, Tory-voting, fox hunting, monocultural country dwellers to blame – at a guess.
No programme is safe from BBC agenda-mongering and Countryfile has form – in spades.
Nice about the beavers, mind.
GW, don’t forget the badgers or Brian May will be upset.
The real consequences of Amber Rudd leaving are this …. IF YOU DISCUSS UK IMMIGRATION OR DISCUSS TARGETS FOR UK IMMIGRATION YOU WILL LOSE YOUR POLITICAL CAREER. Message from EU head office has been received … if you are Merkel you can impose immigration levels as and when required without asking the local population.
2012 … “Two and a half years ago, the coalition government was formed, and we made a clear promise to the British public. After thirteen years of uncontrolled mass immigration, this government would reduce and control immigration.” – Theresa May 2012
2015 … “Because when immigration is too high (no figure given), when the pace of change is too fast, it’s impossible to build a cohesive society.” – Theresa May 2015
Marky: You are quite right.
What you said in bold is the REAL gift. Not the scalp. (And not even the other scalp, if it’s bagged.)
Forget Amber, (other than by her saying there ‘were no targets’, which ENABLED the REAL gift to drift into view- and boy, have they seized it).
This is in the same class of blunderbabble as May giving the opposition the phrase: ‘the nasty party’.
With people like May and Rudd in charge, who needs an opposition? They hang themselves and damage us all.
With sharks like Lammy, Abbott and Dromey around, you can’t afford a little afternoon cruise on the Thames with Strawberries and champagne and the odd Novichok hype up/ Syria raid to distract attention. Reality is bubbling away underneath you. Distract all you like, but don’t ever take your eye off the enemy. And do your homework: find the unexploded bombs in your department – they are your No1 priority when you are appointd. Government is a serious business; it requires serious people.
Are they really so thick, or are we back to conspiracy theory?
Conservatives want to be loved by the Left … but the Left don’t tolerate love, they demand it – all of it – 100% of the time.
They have been told that they don’t have to think or debate. They can demand and get their way. We are sinking quickly …. can anyone tell me how many people have been affected by WindRush? Numbers? 10? 100? 1000? 10000? 0?
Marky: when you are riding high merely by blurting out ‘Windrush generation’ or ‘Windrush scandal’ , you don’t need the facts and figures. Quite on the contrary: you DON’T want them raised. If you raise anything, it’s one tearful victim at a time. Schluss.
Especially if you’re a shadow Home secretary incapable of doing facts and figures in the first place.
And I have every sympathy for the genuine tearful victim who has suffered great injustice because of incompetence, and a failure to deduce the correct tactical and operational objectives from departmental goals and macro-strategy.
Thank goodness Piers Morgan asked these questions … made Diane Abbott answer a question. This is what journalists should be doing … there is a glimmer of light … a flicker …. Mark Steyn – Free Speech – “The Lights Are Going Out On Core Western Liberties” {2012}
Fake,
what I find somewhat inexplicable is the Tories never calling out the BBBC for its obvious in your face bias. I have lost count of the ‘we’ descriptives when presenters refer to Labour policy (for eg).
Not only BBBC clearly. Jon Snow is outrageously partisan on channel bore news. Unfortunately we lack a counterfoil news outlet such as Fox which would more correctly represent the core views of the majority in our society instead of the hive left wing ideology spouted by BBBC and its lefty peers.
Honestus: it would be a big project, requiring root and branch clearance. By someone with convictions and courage. Those two ‘C’s are absolutely essential.
The beeb have the mike. You would have to wrestle it away from them. Big fight. They ARE a Labour mouthpiece. Think about the staff who would have to go. There are very many.
The political screaming would be deafening. They won’t hand that mike over without noise: ‘fascism is going for us’ and so on.
Better question you ask. Why don’t we have a Fox?
Don’t know the answer.
Apologies for being out of sync with current topics but…
fakenewswatcher at 11:32am asks:
“Better question you ask. Why don’t we have a Fox?
Don’t know the answer.”
Well we would have had (and desperately need one to redress the appalling broadcasting bias not just of the BBC but all the TV channels) if the hapless and leftie-Conservative Karen Bradley hadn’t referred Murdoch’s bid for Sky to the CMA.
She had originally said she was “minded” to do so because of the huge volume of representations she had received against it (aka Libmob, who of course are terrified of a UK version of Fox) and even when Ofcom gave Murdoch the benefit of the doubt, she went ahead, referred it to the CMA who ruled against it.
Talk about the hapless Conservatives shooting themselves in the foot!
MarkyMark
Hammer Nail Head
there were no mass call for resignations when the HO lost track of 56000 illegals including over 700 criminals
Or when a London Mayor let in 200 jihadists and could not track them … “Piers Morgan Grills Sadiq Khan Over Jihadists in London” {06jun2017} ….
“How many of those 400 (Jihadists) have come to London?” – Presenter
“The recent estimate is just over half (299?).” – Sadiq Khan
“Where are they?” – Presenter
“How are we letting people back in, to the UK ,who have been trained, and fought – potentially against our own troops? How are we letting them back in without knowing exactly where they are and what they are up to? ….” – Presenter
“That is one of the reasons why it doesn’t make sense that the Government is cutting resources … ” – Sadiq Khan
AUSTERITY!
TV Licenses that forces nurses to eat from food banks and pays for Gary ‘£1.75m’ Lineker’s wages and lets Katty Kay advertise her book for free is being nice to the people who it demands payment from or else you will be prosecuted ….
The BBC has waived the TV licence fee for communities wanting to watch Prince Harry and Meghan Markle’s wedding. It means street parties and other special events can screen the wedding live without buying a licence. {bbc.co.uk 30apr2018}
– No link to how you can avoid paying the BBC TV Tax … not very good reporting.
Wow how radical
.. You don’t have to pay to put a TV on in the street.
.. Which is the usual case in 90% of countries all the time.
Every year cars burn all over France … yet the BBC fails to report on it : Search BBC “Burning cars france” … 2015 is last entry or mention of it, but it happened again this year … “Over 1,000 cars torched across France as New Year’s Eve arrests rise” {02jan2018}
Every year the UK MPs take the piss with expenses yet the BBC : Search BBC “UK MP expenses” … no new findings since 2009 when Tony Blair shredded his expenses by accident. But we have MPs using expenses to buy BBC TV Licenses (Anna Soubry) and MPs buying bikes for £650 on expenses (David Lammy) …
… BBC £3.5bn News Omission Service.
So … is this BBC’s most racist programme? Everyone else has to be diverse except … “Such is the sublime achievement of Famalam(BBC3) (street slang for close friends and family, I believe), and its all-black cast“.
… no White People? no Chinese People? No Eskimos? Should this programme be banned?
‘A sublime achievement of satire’.
I think they missed out the word ‘selective’ between ‘of’ and ‘satire’. For whilst the historical portrayal of Christ as a white man came in for some pretty aggressive ‘satire’ in the episode I saw, they studiously ignored the richest seam of all for satirists – Islam. The opportunities for sending up a burka-clad witness giving evidence in a UK court would alone be enough to fill an entire episode. Then there’s the ‘religion of peace’ oxymoron, sharia law…..
And as for the all-black cast – the preferential treatment of minorities continues, as does the resentment it fuels.
All white cast bad for being exclusive.
All black cast good for being exclusive.
O’Brien silenced him by a movement of his hand. ‘We control matter because we control the mind. Reality is inside the skull. You will learn by degrees, Winston. There is nothing that we could not do. Invisibility, levitation — anything. I could float off this floor like a soap bubble if I wish to. I do not wish to, because the Party does not wish it. You must get rid of those nineteenth-century ideas about the laws of Nature. We make the laws of Nature.‘
Phew.
Now that Amber Rudd has gone the BBC/Guardian will have time to mention the Labour Party’s problems with anti-Semitism. Or even the Times revelations about the level of under hand support Labour had from the Russians at the last election.
No, I don’t think so either.
USA Pro-Life centre found with 47 dead babies discovered on the premises …. Kermit Gosnell (Philadelphia) … the story that the media ignored in America … The Mark Steyn Show with Ann McElhinney and Phelim McAleer
“Since July, America has been exposed through a series of undercover videos to the reality of Planned Parenthood’s once quiet dealing in the apparent sale of the eyeballs, brains, spinal cords, lungs, livers, and hearts of later-term babies aborted at Planned Parenthood locations.”
“Many of us may have already forgotten about the diabolical acts of Kermit Gosnell, and it seems that many of us are already moving on from our righteous outrage over being forced, by our own government, to provide more than $500 million a year in corporate welfare to Big Abortion’s biggest player.”
– When Government pay institutions (like paying Anjem Choudary welfare and his family) they should know what is happening … no?
DNA test … ???
Jon Soapel @JonSoapelBBC : Unprofessional twitter journalist, has never taken a pay cut. RT’s not an endorsement if they later make me look bad.
“IF ONLY I DIDN’T TALK BOLLOCKS – Jon Sopel”
2018 … 50% population NO toilets … but everyone has power …. plus UK hand over £150million in aid ….
India says all villages have electricity {bbc.co.uk 30apr2018}
– £150 million from UK to India for one of the richest countries in the world in resources ….
If Islam is so wonderful why do they all need so much aid from us?
If Islam is so peaceful explain a double dose of peace in Yemen!
Shhhhhhh ….. it ……h…..ole……..
And in which country will the lights go out due to CO2 targets-inflicted power shortages and which country will continue to ramp up its coal-fired power station programme to guarantee electricity for all?
Just to give some ‘balance’ on the wisdom of providing aid to one of the key exporters of terrorism : https://www.firstpost.com/world/donald-trump-cuts-pakistans-security-aid-us-has-already-slashed-funds-by-62-in-5-years-as-us-sees-red-over-safe-terror-havens-4288585.html
Sajid Javid to be new home secretary after Rudd resigns
From the start of the article…
Sajid Javid has been named as the new home secretary after Amber Rudd’s resignation.
Mr Javid, the son of a Pakistani bus driver whose family came to the UK in the 1960s, had been communities, local government and housing secretary.
Why has the BBC even mentioned that he is a son of a Pakistani bus driver?!? Does that make him qualified for the new job or is it just the Liberal self loathing and white hating journalist projecting their own view that immigrants should be in charge of UK mass immigration controls?
Malala was attacked in Pakistan and has recovered … but on going back decided not to stay in tolerant Pakistan (“paradise on earth”) but come back to intolerant UK to tell everyone how to be more tolerant . . . .
Ms (Malala ) Yousafzai repeatedly expressed her wishes to return to Pakistan, describing her hometown of Swat as “paradise on earth” in an interview earlier this month. {bbc.co.uk 30apr2018}
“paradise on earth” … “paradise on earth” …
Pakistan is religiously conservative and late last year Ms Yousafzai was trolled online after a picture of her in Oxford wearing Western clothes – jeans and heeled boots – was shared on social media.
– trolled … or do they mean death threats? Funy how the BBC can tone down abuse … for some, but not others.
– “Pakistani newspaper places pic of Malala wearing jeans next to a report of an earthquake in (her hometown) Swat”
Didn’t a chap end up dying in prison, after being locked up for “trolling” the door handle of a mosque?
Javid, – same age as Sadiq Khan, both fathers were bus drivers, parents from Pakistan, both Muslims, – is there a pattern emerging here ? The odds on a Muslim residing at no. 10 are getting shorter, and I find that very worrying, doesn’t anyone else ?
Don’t worry … it’s not as if thousands of people are shouting it’s ok to become Muslim …. oh, wait ….
Mohamed Salah inspires “I’ll be Muslim too” chant {bbc.co.uk 16feb2018}
“Liverpool and Egypt forward Mohamed Salah has inspired a new chant among the Liverpool faithful.”
“If he’s (Mohamed Salah) good enough for you, he’s (Mohamed Salah) good enough for me.
If he (Mohamed Salah) scores another few, then I’ll be Muslim too.”
I can’t wait for the new “working definition of Islamophobia” as determined by Sourbry et al.
Anna Soubry “I (Anna Soubry) say that the time has now come for a proper legal definition of Islamophobia.”
Victoria Atkins – “We do not accept the need for a definitive definition, but we know that Islamophobia is clearly recognised.”
If their is no legal definition of Islamophobia (open to abuse) then why are the CPS using that term on their website?
“Man jailed over Islamophobic emails” CPS Website.” {cps.gov.uk 28ap2017}
. . . .
“ Channel 4 poll from last year (2015), found that only 1% of UK Muslims think that publications should have the right to publish the cartoons of Mohammed.” {by Douglas Murray}
– In 2015 1% of UK Muslims in poll believe in Freedom of Speech …. 99% don’t believe in freedom of speech ….
. . . .
“Free speech, and freedom of thought, is the foundation of what we are. (Western World)” – David Starkey @ 0:28
Does the BBC £3.5bn News Service know how many people have been affected?
“The Windrush generation” – 0? 10? 100? 1000? 10000? None?
These Diane Abbott’s latest estimates?
Somewhere between zero and a billion trillion!
Amber Rudd resignation….
Ok she had to go, but for me in all this is and it seems to be being ignored, who in the Home Office is leaking all these documents to the Guardian. I think if i was the new Home Secretary the first thing i would do is to find out and kick them out…
Seems to me some Momentum leftie has infiltrated the home office.
Radio Five this morning
A new mental illness has appeared and it affects a lot of Black and Brown women apparently
its called postnatal depression
radio offski ahhh the sweet sound of silence
That, or diabetes, seem prevalent.
Probably because of the large number of sprogs?
Guido panders to libs. maybe due to harassment from HnH account @GuidoFawkesHate
So what’s going on with Guido ?
#1 Feb 11 Guido exposed lib-media & #BiasedBBC #censorship of stories exposing HateyNoHoper leader Brendan Cox
#2 Feb/March/April Labour is under immense pressure for patches of antisemitism
Top Labour people like Corbyn participating in social media groups where it was endemic.
#3 April : The HateyNoHopers set up the @GuidoFawkesHate account to harass Guido
first searched for anti-Jew comments in Guido comments
#4 Then Guido suddenly started draconian comment #censorship
#5 @GuidoFawkesHate bragged
“comments are 10% of what they were”
So rather than debate … shut it down … “This page is committed to exposing the racism and homophobia on Guido Fawkes – a page organised by a man with historic links to the BNP – Paul Staines.” @GuidoFawkesHate
“A bit of exposure really does wash out stubborn Staines.”
GuidoFawkesHate posted screenshots of Guido comments page and said all the removed comments were racist
… that is FakeNews
The new rule ? “Everyone must pander to libs “
Is this really 2018 … Major UK booksellers accused of listing far-right titles for sale {21mar2018}
“Booksellers Amazon, W H Smith, Waterstones and Foyles have become the subject of a Hope not Hate campaign, which has accused them of listing far-right books for sale.
Among the controversial titles the anti-racism campaign group alleges the retailers list for sale are Holocaust denial work Did Six Million Really Die? by Richard Verrall, The Leuchter Reports by Fred Leuchter, and several works by leading Holocaust denier and convicted criminal, Germar Rudolf. Others include notorious antisemitic forgery The Protocols of the Elders of Zion and neo-nazi terror novel The Turner Diaries, an inspiration for Oklahoma bomber Tim McVeigh and London nailbomber David Copeland. The Anarchist Cookbook, which has chapters on home preparation of weapons, electronics, drugs, and explosives, is also advertised for sale on several websites, the campaign organisers said.”
Marky,
But ok to have far left books for sale !
All books are equal, but some are more equal than others … timeless!
Good find Pug.
Isn’t it amazing how you could unearth that yet the BBC with its 4000+ army of journalists and researchers couldn’t.
Or maybe a BBC Memory Hole operative got to it first.
Guido had good uses
Feb 16th He exposed the Guardian HIDING the story Jeremy Corbyn friend of racist rapper who sent Jew and Hitler tweets
\\ JC interview to Corbynista YouTube star David Vujanic for the Guardian website yesterday. Jezza and Vujanic got on famously, bumping fists and discussing, among other things, why fighting racism is so important and how there should be “zero tolerance” to those guilty of racist abuse.
… Labour did vet the Twitter feed of Corbyn’s new pal, didn’t they? Oh no…//
The Guardian article was changed and marked :
“This article has been taken down pending investigation.”
10 weeks later it’s still like that, and I guess will never go back up
That is the Guardian rigging the historical record.
Sorry to butt in on some interesting posts here, but has anyone in the country seen or heard what their candidates are going to offer on Thursday 3rd May? Dotun had a lecturer from Liverpool on this morning, and most of the callers were incoherent, while the Liverpool bloke kept saying ‘ er’, then slipped up by mentioning we have a Labour government! But there was no real discussion, just idel chat. Sad really, because I quite like Dotun usually.
We, in a village near T.Wells have heard absolutely nothing!
I suppose I’ll have to bite the bullet and listen to local radio, which has the thickest, stupidest brain-dead mental lightweight ‘audience’ in existence. The local BBC is just dire, and causes anger then the off-switch after a few minutes…
Dotun is as thick as 30 short planks, so well matched to his ‘audience’.
Saw the ever intelligent and informative Diane Abbot on gmtv this morning. And this could be our next home secretary. Frightening.
Guido has it
https://order-order.com/2018/04/30/diane-abbott-illegal-immigration-brain-fade/
@0:08 “All I can say to your Piers, is … that… anybody watching the programme … this morning . Would be surprised you don’t want to talk about the immediate plight of the WindRush generation (no numbers given)” – Diane Abbott
“Well, we spent the first half of the interview talking about that … ” – Piers Morgan
“You any the wiser?” – Piers Morgan @2:16
DIANE ABBOTT ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION BRAIN FADE {order-order.com 30arp2018}
I’m no fan of Morgan, but occasionally he asks the questions and presses Lib/Lab interviewees in a way that I think only Andrew Neil would also be prepared to do.
Views not their own. Or are.
Prosecutions vs convictions + fines + prison sentences 2016. {twitter Caroline L-B @lalionneUK} Complete overview click here: TV licence Overview 2016
– Will Gary ‘£1.75m’ Lineker and Chris ‘£2.3m’ Evans go and say sorry to each person … or demand they pay their wages?
So do they have targets for the number of prosecutions ?
…obvious question.
The BBC can give themselves an increase of £3.50 on the TV License in 2018 (2%).
MPs give themselves an 18% pay rise since 2010 …. even with a recession and austerity!!!
Because of the unique way they are funded!
Well, I won’t be shedding any crocodile tears at the plight of hapless and hopeless Amber. This politically correct, cowardly dope has simultaneously allowed nearly 500 jihadis back into Blighty, while banning those who wished to warn us about them. She’s done everything she could to appeal to the BBC and The Guardian. Now she’s gone. Good!
Of course the Labour Broadcasting Corporation are spinning this Windrush kerfuffle for all they’re worth, hoping to see a couple of terrorist supporting, anti-Semitic Marxists in numbers 10 and 11 and a racist halfwit in charge of the police and immigration.
I expect to see much more posing, pouting and finger wagging from those sour faced race hustlers, Yvette, Shami and Flabby before this nonsense is over with.
Wake me when it’s over…
UK GENERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGN, LABOUR IMMIGRATION CONTROLS MUGS #GE2015
This shameful mug is an embarrassment. But real problem is that immigration controls are one of our (Labours) 5 pledges at all {Diane Abbott 29Mar2015}
“@deanbergkamp @DeeTeeUK Not against immigration controls in principle. We have always had them. Against trying to out-UKIP UKIP.” – Diane Abbott
“@HackneyAbbott @gordonpoynter @GuidoFawkes Are you against wasteful paintings as well?” {twitter}
I will say this for the Windrush folk, they wear snappy clothes. I will look out for them next time I visit London.
Bye bye Amber, a remainer and enemy of free speech. I wonder if the non active Muslim who has replaced her will ease up a bit on the people Amber banned from coming here to exercise the British right to freedom of speech on speakers corner.
2. How many people are potentially affected by the Windrush crisis?
A lot. In the short space since the Windrush hotline was set up, Glynn Williams, the head of immigration for the Home Office, told the committee it had taken 3,800 calls, of which 1,364 had been identified as being Windrush cases. This seems set to rise.
So far, he said, 91 appointments had been made, 25 had taken place and 23 documents issued. Earlier in the day, a junior minister, Nadhim Zahawi, had pledged all cases would be sorted out within a fortnight. This looks a tough ask.
5. How many people have been wrongly detained or deported?
We still don’t know. ….
Windrush scandal: five unanswered questions {guardian 25apr2018}
– A lot. 1,364. Seems (not known) to be rising. (out of 500,000 people – So a failing of 0.3% … or 99.7% success rate?!
– Deported? None so far.
– 99.7% Windrush Success Rate!
I shed no tears for the loss of Amber, who is a nasty piece of work.
I do find it ironic that she’s had to fall on her sword for apparently misleading parliament as to targets for removal of illegal immigrants. If the Tories had any brains they would see such targets as a vote-winner and wouldn’t have got into such trouble denying they existed. Most people understand the difference between targeting illegal immigrants and an administrative cock-up. They just needed to apologise for the cock-up and tell the BBC et al to get stuffed with their attacks on any sort of immigration control.
I firmly believe she was shafted by her own civil servants in order to get at Tories in general and Theresa May in particular, but it couldn’t have worked if the Tories actually believed in controlling immigration.
G.W.F., that’s a really great photo.
It makes me smile. There’s a lot going on in that picture and it contains a lot of information.
Do you know what makes me sad? And cross?
A lot of vile people have treated those men and others, including women, like them badly.
I don’t mean the discrimination they faced, or may have faced, when they arrived in the UK. That came from, hopefully, no more than a few at that time. No, ‘the many’ I refer to are the ones who now – in the 21st century – exploit them, who weaponise them, and their children and grandchildren, if any, for political ends.
Political Correctness & shutting down free speech
Melanie Phillips is promoting this new film : The Fight of Our Lives
“the threat from within is The light fog of fascism, the campus protests”
“The attack on Judeo-Christian morality”
https://www.symphonyspace.org/event/10107/Film/the-fight-of-our-lives
Ah Trailer has been around since Feb, but the film is on tour , The NY premiere is tomorrow
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/deadly-threat-western-civilisation-last-view-right-perspective/
The children I teach are indifferent to the adult world. This defies the experience of thousands of years. A close study of what big people were up to was always the most exciting occupation of youth, but nobody wants to grow up these days and who can blame them? Toys are us. … Time for a return to democracy, individuality, and family. I’ve said my piece. Thank you. {naturalchild.org – john gatto – jan1990}
“Free speech, and freedom of thought, is the foundation of what we are. (Western World)” – David Starkey @ 0:28
“Religion has got no privilege whatever.” – David Starkey @ 1:28