524 Responses to Midweek Thread 14 November 2018

  1. The General says:

    LABOUR’S SIX TESTS FOR FITNESS TO GOVERN.

    1. Is Jeremy Corbyn fit to be Prime Minister.

    2. Is Tom Watson fit to be Deputy Leader

    3. Is John McDonnell fit to be Chancellor

    4. Is Diane Abbott fit to be Home Secretary

    5. Is Emily Thornbury fit to be Foreign Secretary

    6, Is Kier Stammer fit to be Secretary of State for European Union.

    WELL………………….!!!!!!

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    • Oldspeaker says:

      Are any of them fit enough to run a chip shop? By the time the working committee had established if chips are racist or not the business would be bankrupt. Number 4, at one time couldn’t turn the radio/tv on without her popping up, keeping her well under wraps now aren’t they?

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  2. JimS says:

    Sometimes the BBC actually tells us things that maybe their corporate pals would have preferred remain hidden!

    Last week’s Last Word told us about Tom Jago, the drinks marketeer who developed Bailey’s Irish Cream, Malibu and Le Piat D’Or.

    Apparently there was lots of cream going spare as a result of milk being sold skimmed and Bailey’s wanted to shift more of their product so Jago put the two together and the result was… vile. So he added Nesquik and the plebs sucked it up! Malibu, the world’s best-selling Caribbean rum, was concocted in South Africa, a no-no place, new name, new ‘origin’ and Bob’s your uncle! Similary Le Piat D’Or, too bland for a wine-lover, but OK for the plebs once it had the marketing make-over.

    Perhaps Cameron should have put Jago onto selling the EU? “Les Anglais aiment l’Union européenne”

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Jim
      I love stories like that – I always wanted to be in marketing so selling stuff with a glamour brand would always have been fun .

      I like the yeast extract was a waste produce from beer production

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  3. Tabs says:

    BBC1 Question Time, near the beginning, the Union bloke said “…we need a general election and get rid of all the Tories”. The entire audience cheered louder than a North Korea audience clapping and cheering for Kim Jung Un.

    Balanced audience my arse. I’d say 99% are Momentum and the few Brexiters who have spoken so far are saying “I voted Brexit but I wouldn’t again”.

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    • Luckyharry69 says:

      @tabs
      If you go on the website you can apply to be in the audience.
      The questions are quite loaded…and they want to know your Brexit/Voting preferences etc…hence the audience are obviously hand picked to fit the BBC agenda?.I was thinking of going to Cannock next week and lying about my allegiances…still not sure.To be honest I think QT is just past its sell by date….

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  4. StewGreen says:

    Just another thing on Tommy
    I notice the Wales online article uses a Getty image of Tommy with a blurred red/whit and blue flag underneath him,
    ..why the blurring ?
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    https://www.gettyimages.co.nz/detail/news-photo/far-right-figurehead-tommy-robinson-real-name-stephen-news-photo/1052800204

    There is a flag in the crowd ..is it an identitarian flag or something ?

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    • StewGreen says:

      I see the hateyfa have organised a big march against on Saturday 17th

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      • Luckyharry69 says:

        @Stew
        Is she a real ‘Doctor?’….if so I would be petitioning where she works….what a horrible SJW/Feminist virtue signaler…yuk….

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        • BigBrotherCorporation says:

          LuckyHarry, yes she does appear to be a REAL doctor, unlike all these jumped up medical doctors. Before the late 19th Century ‘physicians’ weren’t considered well enough qualified to have the title of ‘Dr’, unlike us academically qualified types who’ve been called ‘Dr’ since the middle ages. The clue is in the qualification, it’s not called a doctorate for nothing, whereas medical types have a ‘mere’, medical training (actually, I have nothing but respect for most of the medically qualified, but using the same title does cause confusion, sometimes disastrously so!)

          She is a Historian, presumably with a PhD in History from some Uni, or other, who works for the BBC (BBC Radio London, in fact). at least that’s what it says on her twitter profile, but I suspect she’s entered that herself, so who really knows?

          You can petition BBC Radio London if you want, but as they all seem to be horrible SJW/Feminist (NPC) types there, with identikit points of view on everything, I really wouldn’t raIse your hopes too much.

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          • StewGreen says:

            Do you remember her ?..she was the one protesting on Twitter about when TR came out of the Old Bailey
            ‘How dare the police allow him to speak on a platform in the street’
            and then you look at her own Twitter page top-banner photo
            which shows her speaking from platform in the street.
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            my October 23, 2018 at 6:48 pm post

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            • Terminal Moraine says:

              Following post below… for some reason they’ve dropped a new sky into this image. Bad bit of retouching but maybe the brief was to make it look more dramatic than an overcast background.

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    • Terminal Moraine says:

      Stew, the ‘blurring’ is typical depth of field (DoF) from using a long lens and where the flag is close to the camera. Very unlikely it has been doctored — all photo agencies like Getty have strict rules on retouching of editorial photos (as opposed to creative which is a different category).

      The other flag looks like it’s For Britain (below; centre).

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      • StewGreen says:

        @TerminalMoraine DoF that sounds logical BUT why didn’t they simply crop the photo to be square ?
        So i reckon it is a For Britain flag that has been blurred

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        • Terminal Moraine says:

          Square format rarely used for editorial. Also some foreground interest makes a stronger shot (from the creative POV)

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  5. taffman says:

    So Michael Gove is understood to be considering quitting according to Al Beeb. Where has he been till now?
    The sooner the better!

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    • taffman says:

      Will the next Brexit Secretary be Oliver Robbins?
      He may be unelected but, hay ho he appears to be have been doing the job anyway?

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      • Up2snuff says:

        taffman, I cannot help wondering whether the PM’s unsatisfactory deal document was her response to Civil Servants making the running/making life difficult/trying to subvert Brexit/trying to overturn Brexit during the negotiations in Brussels. Something straight out of Yes, Prime Minister.

        We may be remembering in ten, twenty-five, thirty and fifty years time, with some fondness, memories of ‘The PM’s Revenge’.

        Could be a title for a new Goon Show.

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      According to LBC earlier this evening there is a genuine family matter he has had to attend to.

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  6. StewGreen says:

    Wow BBC local news did not rig the vox pop tonight.
    A friend was in a small town today where the BBC were doing a vox pop
    You rarely hear a Remain voice around town except from people like the teachers from down south are in the pub
    The people expected the BBC to edit the vox pop to have only Remain voices
    When the 60 second bit came on the local news my friend knew most of the people interviewed
    ..and so of course they said “Just get on with it”
    ..surprisingly the local BBC did not try to greatly rig the vox pop

    There was a “second vote” voice, 2 female ethnic Chinese he’d never seen, probably from a bus trip that was in the town today from Hull..

    The local news presenter is quite different from the national people, you can see him grimace as the metroliberal bosses foist stuff onto the progs agenda
    ..cos sure enough when stuff like an anti-Brexit item is played the tweets/comments that come in during the show, that he reads out at the end of the prog, overwhelmingly take the regions normal pro-Brexit view
    … and likewise on other metro-liberal issues political correctness etc.

    We know that not all BBC are cannot all be fanatic anti-Trump anti-Brexit people , anti-Tory,anti-UKIP , like we see from their London staff
    but they keep their head down,
    most of the local BBC TV/Radio staff do retweet that London stuff but that local presenter just keeps his views to himself except on charity stuff.

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  7. StewGreen says:

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    • JamesArthur says:

      What does the BBC page bold and underline in this story – not the ridiculous attitude and actions but a Colonial era law…WTF
      India has had enough time to change any law it likes – it’s not the fault of the British Empire they have chosen not to.
      Yet again the BBC deserves to lose the B at the front – it clearly doesn’t value it

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  8. popeye says:

    I’m a lover of classical music so tuned in to BBC4 last night to watch a programme about classical music after WW1. Now correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t recollect there being many BAMEs around that time in this country and certainly not in the classical music field yet for the first 10 minutes the musicians shown were OVERWHELMINGLY black (oh, plus one real (far East) Asian). And to cap it all the presenter was a guy called Lenny Henry, apparently an expert on such music. I was half expecting the BBC to have commissioned Peter Jackson to digitally colour in footage of Elgar, Holst and Vaughn Williams so they too were black! BBC agenda? Nah

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    • Anne says:

      For years, the BBC has regarded the Proms, Radio 3, and classical music generally as a problem to be addressed. The usual story is that black people are somehow being excluded, in spite of the fact that people from the Far East, with a culture which is in many ways entirely different from ours, don’t seem to have a problem. This exclusion is apparently so effective that even free concerts in Trafalgar Square are almost exclusively white.

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      If they don’t want to go, leave them alone. And yes, I know about Chineke.
      http://www.chineke.org/

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  9. Dover Sentry says:

    May kept the Brexit negotiations secret as she knew what the public response would be.

    As ever, treason is conducted behind closed doors and in secret.

    Something for the the BBC’s highly paid investigative journalists to explore, perhaps? Or more likely, not.

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  10. Oaknash says:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6392287/Its-Jeremy-Corbyn-persuaded-Cabinet-Brexit-deal.html

    Dont worry about brexit people . The Daily mail is gonna sort it all out for us. Apparently there is a backlash at us Brexiteers because what we all really want is Theresa to just get on with the “deal” or should it be the “BIGGER DEAL”
    Nice of the Mail to speak on my behalf. I feel pleased that I stopped buying this paper a couple of months ago. Not only were they instrumental on inflicting the Appeaser on us, they are now full on Remain.
    Comments could be going better = Ha ha

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    • Payne by name says:

      Jesus, what has happened to that newspaper. Only concerned with side bar tittle tattle and pointless gossip.

      What a trashy rag.

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      • Rich says:

        Oak, Payne,

        The agreed narrative now seems to be that those of us who believe in democracy, national sovereignty and who wish to Brexit are extremists whilst Remainers and those supporting May along with those pushing for a second referendum are sensible moderates.

        Who would have thought that the bBBC/ Guardian and the Mail would get into bed together so quickly?

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        • BRISSLES says:

          Payne/Oaknash. I agree with both your comments. I understand that the Mail has undergone management changes, and doesn’t it show !
          I’ve been a regular reader for decades (the red tops are too comic like for my taste, and I cant cope with broadsheets), and in the main most of their columnists write intelligent pieces. Lately however, we’re getting ‘soundbite’ reporting, and yes, tittle-tattle. I don’t buy a newspaper to read about disputes between neighbours concerning the size of their bloody hedges ! and how the face of Cheryl Cole/Tweedy/Whatever is changing, which is what we’re now getting.

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  11. Fedup2 says:

    I was watching ‘ movies for men’ which is far more better for my health than far left BBC news.

    There was a programme on Goebells and how e used every element of the state and culture to sell his message .

    After a bit he realised that the people were getting a bit fed up with the constant message so the regime had to ‘ lighten up’ from time to time .

    This succeeded . Then I wondered what programmes he used – then I realised it was

    Strictly , Match of the day and the like …..

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  12. theisland says:

    The 585 page draft Agreement was released on the afternoon of Wed 14.

    At 11.03 pm that day Keir Starmer tweeted that he had carefully read and analysed it, a claim he was repeating on early morning TV yesterday.

    I do not believe he has the competence to have ‘analysed’ it during that short time, unless …

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  13. JamesArthur says:

    The BBC are have a field day(s)…How many times can they ask people (remainers) what they fear/problems they think they will have with Brexit…even had Rob Lowe on and asked him what he thought about Brexit (he was actually quite good in answering but not).
    Basically they allow anyone to say negative things without any balance…project Fear 3…..

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  14. Payne by name says:

    I thought this was an excellent summation of where we were and where we are that was put together by Breitbart.

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2018/11/15/a-brief-guide-to-brexit-where-we-are-how-we-got-here/

    Just for those who switched off, as I did, during the last few months due to building anger.

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    • theisland says:

      Yes, this article is good for clearing one’s head even though it doesn’t mention the dreadful fishing/territorial waters and defence/military betrayals.

      Unfortunately, it appears that no-one with the necessary leadership qualities, who wields any power (if indeed he/she exists), reads this site or similar.

      I’m with Raheem on this:

      https://twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/1063092373192880134

      It is a shame that HMQ seems unable, for a host of reasons, to help us. What a tragic end to her long and dutiful reign. Perhaps we should initiate a ‘humble address’.

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  15. JamesArthur says:

    Why is R4 (8.43 am) ‘repeating’ John McDonnell interview from yesterday? If it isn’t a repeat it sounds virtually the same…WTF again. John McDonnell is not credible…why interview him again? Why not find a Brexiteer…??? Are they struggling to find anyone who wants to talk to them?
    Now interviewer talking about a “people’s vote”…radio going off

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  16. Fedup2 says:

    Poor Andrew Neill has to preside over the embarrassing “the week”
    Last night he was foisted with the Hon Dan Snow – a beeboid so up himself I’m surprised he doesn’t disappear – and disappointed at that . The hon Snow refered to brexiters as ‘headbangers’ and looked like he got away with it until Portiloo took exception . No apology .

    Snow was one of those ‘celebs ‘ who thought that their image and project fear would fool the unwashed plebs into staying in the ReichEU – and failed .

    His money is probably in a tax exempt trust – he is married to one of the richest women in the country – after all.

    Feel sorry for Mr Neil having to preside over ‘this week’. It must be aimed at drunk politicians who probably find the ‘in jokes’ funny .

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  17. Up2snuff says:

    Constant PM/EU/Deal on TOADY this morning. Never have I been so grateful to hear the Racing Tips and I do not like horse racing.

    I think there is one thing that absolutely terrifies ardent EU enthusiasts and fanatical Remainers: the UK leaving the EU without a deal and there being no real problems at all.

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  18. Dystopian says:

    Just heard that all the Tory whips have been recalled with immediate effect.
    Are the 48 letters in?
    Fingers crossed

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    • StewGreen says:

      10am news “Sources tell the BBC that Michael Gove will not be resigning”

      Then they played the seg from Mrs May’s LBC phone-in this morning
      The last caller who said “Do you consider yourself like Chamberlain ?”
      and the reply from May which seemed practiced and polished
      where she said she WOULD be delivering closed borders and no funding the EU …. but she didn’t say when these would actually be implemented

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      • gb123 says:

        May is very good at delivering Churchill like sound bites, probably written for her. However the delivery of the promises never seems to match the words, sometimes being the exact opposite.

        Examples:
        There will be no more elections until Brexit. Speaking to Andrew Marr she said “I don’t think there’s a need for an election. I think the next election will be in 2020″. Announced a General Election in May 2017 after taking office in July 2016.

        ” Strong and stable” Government. Result majority wiped out.

        No deal is better than a bad deal. Result alienates both leavers and remainers and creates more chaos.

        Whatever she says the opposite is usually the result.

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      • David R says:

        Remember
        You heard it on the BBC

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  19. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    I think I should buy shares in bulldozers and lime.
    As from 30 March next year there will be millions of diabetics dropping dead daily because the eu will stop sending insulin.
    I’m on to a winner here……unless the media is not telling the truth.

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    • Tabs says:

      My top tip for shares is Siemens. If Corbyn gets into power then Siemens will be building all the gas chambers like they did before.

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    • Dystopian says:

      Well according to May “Geoffrey Boycott stuck to it and he got the runs in the end”

      The only way I can see May getting the runs is with laxatives!
      She already has verbal diarrhoea though

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    • David R says:

      “the eu will stop sending insulin.” which is made in Wrexham!

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      • Scroblene says:

        I’d have thought that the NHS was totally capable of using their new millions of our money saved from wasting on EU pensions and benefits for all the dross we’ve funded over the years, like Kinnock, Mandelson etc, and get Amazon to pop over the Channel on a couple of chartered boats, and bring back enough insulin to cover the whole country in a few hours!

        It’s these project fear soundbites so loved by failed remainers, that make us all just a little bit firmer in our resolve to kick them all into touch!

        And that liar blair with his nutter mate, campbell can go and piss off too. Nasty sleazy little twerps.

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      • Roland Deschain says:

        Which EU rules would prevent the Netherlands from continuing to sell us insulin?

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  20. StewGreen says:

    Got an agenda Sky ?

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    • BRISSLES says:

      Really ? , ‘half of Britons ‘ ?, and which half would that be ? the half that voted Remain the first time around ? so they’ve polled over 30 million people then. I must have been out walking the dog at the time.

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      • Northern Dreamer says:

        If a 3rd referendum delivered the same 52:48 result in favour of Leave, do you really think the Remoaners would say ‘okay, fair enough, we’ve lost’ and walk away with their tails between their legs? Soubry, Clarke, Starmer, Gardiner et al would continue their agenda to thwart Brexit. In the early hours of the morning after the last referendum, the elite mob were already mobilising and vowing to overturn Brexit. Bankrolled by billionaires, their campaigns continued unabated. Leave funding smears, more project fear, and the lobbying of the EU’s negotiators by former PM’s and other has beens.

        May and Robbins are not the only traitors.

        Take a bow, bBBC, your part in all of this will not be forgotten.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Sky’s flag is upside down or in distress

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    • JamesArthur says:

      Lies and statistics..
      They sampled 1499 Sky customers..so not much bias then. Makes the headline lies. Who can I complain to?

      The questions did not contain a ‘go back’ and renegotiate option – after all why would they?
      I never did like Sky and probably never will – I suspect they are too worried about their EU business

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      That has been the game all along. Make it so horrible that people change their minds.

      I suspect it’s going to work, but I’m not sure the Establishment has thought through the inevitable consequences of subverting a popular vote in this manner.

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    • lojolondon says:

      Unfortunately SkyNews is FakeNews – I wrote to them yesterday to complain about their Anti-Brexit bias.
      Wrong too…. https://order-order.com/2018/11/16/just-36-brits-want-stop-brexit/

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  21. G.W.F. says:

    Tough talk from PJ Watson. There never was going to be Brexit.

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  22. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    May really is hopeless at doing deals.
    Her election manifesto was terrible.
    Her ‘brexit deal’ is also rubbish.

    I bet there are time-share salesmen and used car dealers out there salivating at getting May into their offices looking to get something from them.
    Salesman. “This car is for sale at £20,000”
    May. “I’ll give you £30,000 and not a penny more”
    Salesman. “You drive a hard bargain, you’re a bloody difficult woman but you’ve got yourself a deal”

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Her actual General Election campaign – focused on herself- was also an embarrasing fiasco. The CP should have got rid of her then. Why didn’t it?
      The ‘Brexit deal’ has been the biggest piece of theatrical deception I’ve ever seen!
      What fools we all are.
      As Taffman always says, vote UKIP. Please come back, Nigel.

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    • Northern Dreamer says:

      Salesman. “You drive a hard bargain, you’re a bloody difficult woman, but £35,000 and you’ve got yourself a deal, and then we can talk about putting an engine in it, it’ll be ready in 20XX.

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  23. G.W.F. says:

    Gove decides not to quit. Looks like Treezer is safe.
    Are the rats crawling back on to the sinking ship in time for a second referendum?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46230281

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    • Dystopian says:

      They smile at your face……..

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    • G says:

      G.W.F,
      Never trusted Gove. A mercenary by any stretch of the immagination. If he continues to support Treezer and her, “deal” he is by far, more two-faced than I thought. Ditto for the other ardent Brexiteer, Liam Fox.

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  24. StewGreen says:

    Sun and Metro take time to report an important exciting story
    “Tommy Robinson accidentally posts Instagram video of himself losing his temper at wife
    The English Defence League co-founder was sharing footage of a chicken burger on his Instagram stories last night when he flipped

    Then you watch their 20 second video (which is only audio)
    and all he says , in a not very shouty voice is
    “Give me the charger …pause … give me my f**king charger”
    I would hardly call that “LOSING your TEMPER” or “flipped”
    Just cos you use the f-word doesn’t mean you lost your temper
    ..it’s more like “snarked”

    How the hell is that news ?
    https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/3494659/tommy-robinson-accidentally-posts-instagram-video-of-himself-losing-his-temper-at-wife

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    • Dystopian says:

      Hardly loses his temper sounds like he was very calmly asking but not being heard so used an expletive at the 3rd request. Big deal.

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  25. Dystopian says:

    Breaking news Steve Baker has told members of the ERG that the 48 letter threshold has been exceeded by “dozens more”. “Unconfirmed at the moment though”

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  26. theisland says:

    Almost exactly one year ago (Nov 13, 2017) Martin Howe, Chairman of Lawyers for Britain, wrote this article for brexitcentral.com.
    https://brexitcentral.com/sir-keir-starmers-obsessive-love-affair-european-court-justice-needs-end/

    … strangely, Labour’s Brexit spokesman, Sir Keir Starmer QC, is seeking to perpetuate in every conceivable way the jurisdiction of this foreign court over the UK after we have left the EU. At the weekend, he wrote to the Prime Minister demanding that the ECJ should continue to exercise jurisdiction over the UK during any transitional period, and threatened an amendment to the EU Withdrawal Bill to make this happen if the PM does not agree. And yesterday he argued that the ECJ should have jurisdiction over the UK for the indefinite future where we wish to enter into arrangements with EU agencies.

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  27. StewGreen says:

    Apparently the producers of this mornings BBC Breakfast TV, Children in Need special erred on the side of under-representing white kids

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    • JamesArthur says:

      Looks like more people are noticing the BBC’s agenda and not liking it.
      Fair representation is all anyone wants.
      It’s funny that I often hear from Black celebs that they never saw anyone like them (black/asian) in books and on TV..
      it’s strange how that doesn’t seem to matter around the other way.

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    • G says:

      ‘White’s’? Those that really pay the bills……………

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    • Loobyloo says:

      This comes under the category of Al Beeb taking the piss/rubbing our nose in diversity. Why would they not include a white kid for representation?
      I also don’t believe the totals given for money raised by CIN. It increases each year. Really? Who would trust Al Beeb with their donations these days?
      Also, have they removed these tweets?

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      • oldcrone says:

        I agree Looby .. and where does all the money go? Anyone got a breakdown of this? I wouldn’t give them a broken button.

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  28. s.trubble says:

    Pity that vote of no confidence couldn’t be widened to include the bBC.

    The Withdrawal document tells us ” You’ve just been Sir Humphried”
    And as for the 5 pages dedicated to the future relationship via ” best endeavors”…….anyone who buys that would be akin to the arab buying sand!

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  29. G.W.F. says:

    BBC appears to be backing their girl. Gove likes May and the BBC are coming around to sell the benefits of the deal.
    Gove is not only confident in May; he is ‘absolutely confident’ in May, . he told reporters on Friday that he was focused on working in cabinet to get “the right deal in the future”.

    And if I hear Treezer talking about every fibre in her being once more, I will scream.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46230281

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46208764

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  30. theisland says:

    VD – @0:34 “Just explain who Olly Robbins is, cos I tell you most of the country has no idea.”

    (We at the bBC like to keep the peasants in the dark).

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  31. MarkyMark says:

    Merry Muslim Musings …

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40481325

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    Last year, his brother was jailed for life for plotting to behead someone on Remembrance Sunday.

    “You became, and in my judgement as shown by your online activities away from your contact with Abu Yusuf, deeply committed to the ideology of a brutal and barbaric organisation that sought to hijack and corrupt an ancient and venerable religion for its own purposes and you wanted to be part of it.

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    • G.W.F. says:

      Marky Mark

      Hijacking Islam. Ought to be a law against it.

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    • MartinW says:

      Highjacking and corrupting a venerable religion! No, he and his brother were taking the tenets of islam and its so-called prophet literally.

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  32. StewGreen says:

    R4 Y&Y yesterday had Greenpeace on about single use plastics
    Now today the prog is at WWF’s HQ in Woking …and Dave Lewis of Tesco is also there

    The WWF voice “I was just the other day in the suhado in Brazil”
    #GreensGoByAir
    (The BBC’s @adinacampbell tweeted Oct 30 : “We travelled with @TanyaMSteele ahead of today’s #WWF research. Full report coming up in #BBCNewsTen” )

    Now the beeboid asks Tesco : are you in talks with suppliers about stockpiling for Brexit
    ..he deflects ..We’re busy with Christmas.

    Now the beeboid asks Tesco : are you in talks with suppliers about stockpiling for Brexit ?
    ..he deflects ..We’re busy with Christmas.

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    • Loobyloo says:

      Funny how Greenpeace and veganism seem to be fashionable and correct these days. Shows you who is in power at Al Beeb.

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  33. Invicta 1066 says:

    Currently listening on BBC radio R4EX to the news Huddlines from 1979.

    There is wonderful sketch near the end about the Common Market/EU. I do not do links etc. but it repeated at 7.30 tonight 16th Nov. on R4Ex I really, really recommend a listen. So unlike the way the BBC of today.

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    • StewGreen says:

      With the new system I can longer link to the minute
      so click https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m00016gr
      and go to minute 19
      Not very politically correct at all

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      • Invicta 1066 says:

        Many thanks Stew.
        I and I suspect others could do with a
        tutorial section on links etc.

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        • StewGreen says:

          In a new tab I went to the 4eX schedule page, scrolled down to 12:30pm
          put my mouse over the link and right clicked to select the “copy URL”
          I then came back to this tab and put my mouse in the white comment box, and clicked ctrl-V to paste that URL
          That’s it cos http links automatically become functional here

          There are 2 urls you should never directly post here : people’s main twitter profile
          cos that fills the page with all their tweets etc.
          and our own biasedBBC.org which similarly expands
          which is why I encoded this next link

          For more see bottom of this page

          BTW You pick up the URL of a Twitter or Facebook post by right-clicking over its timestamp

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      • oldcrone says:

        Thanks for link but you have to “Sign in” or “Register” to see it which I haven’t done ‘cos I just know that they will ask me if I have a TV Licence …. and I haven’t!!

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  34. Roland Deschain says:

    a2kuf.jpg

    Is one supposed to post pictures of her naked then?

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    • StewGreen says:

      The BBC misses 2 words
      “A picture of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez wearing” EXPENSIVE-LOOKING “clothes prompted waves of controversy online on Thursday.”
      cos the congress woman ” has spoken of her financial struggles.
      … said she will find it difficult to pay her rent until she picks up her first pay cheque in January.”
      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-46233260

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  35. JamesArthur says:

    It seems she took offence when somebody tried to make the point that whilst she claims she struggles and may find it difficult to pay her rent until she gets paid..despite having what I assume are expensive clothes (maybe not maybe it’s Primark).
    Trouble is he went about it the wrong way – he took a picture of her from behind and posted it…now she seems to think he was taking it of her bottom – I doubt it very much…now she is using the sexist angle..

    BUT why is this on the BBC website – IT is not news..really

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    • StewGreen says:

      He took no picture
      He merely tweeted a photo of her some insider had taken from behind
      She deflected by dramaqueening ‘misogeny, he took a picture of my ass’
      You can’t see her ass in the pic

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  36. Sabreman64 says:

    I see Andrew Neil is in trouble with some delicate flowers at the BBC for referring to Carol Codswallop as a “mad cat woman”:

    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/nov/16/bbc-women-complain-andrew-neil-tweet-observer-journalist-carole-cadwalladr

    They claim he was being “sexist”. Presumably if Neil had referred to her as a “mad cat person” it would have been OK. They’d better get PC Plod onto Neil then. After all, the police don’t have more important matters such as burglaries and muggings to deal with, do they?

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    • StewGreen says:

      Did they complain 6 months ago when Andrea Leadsom used the very same analogy about a Labour man ?

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    • vlad says:

      The way things are going, you soon won’t be able to make any comment about wiimin, blacks or muslims that are less than 100% favourable.

      Men of course are fair game, as are Tories, Brexiters etc.

         15 likes

      • Luckyharry69 says:

        @Vlad
        watch the Bolt report from Australia on You Tube…he is brilliant.unless you already have……

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      • oldcrone says:

        Hahaha .. vlad … what if you are a Tory Brexiteer woman then? Am presuming wimmin will trump (God bless him) Tory and Brexiteer. It does get very confusing especially with ageing brain cells.

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  37. StewGreen says:

    Richard Dawkins still on Paypal ?

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  38. StewGreen says:

    Breitbart on that Paypal thing of banning a violent Antifa group, and the Proudboys who merely reacted by defending themselves and then banning TR
    Then banning Ukip
    https://www.ukip.org/national-ukip-news-item.php?id=123

    https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/07/24/stripe-paypal-patreon-the-right-is-being-banned-from-online-fundraising

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  39. StewGreen says:

    Now an interesting thing about that Breitbart article , it mentions a guy I just mentioned up the page, an Antifa antiTommy activist who deleted tweets last night after I mentioned them here.

    He makes accusations that TR is a nasty piece of work.
    Now the rule is that if a libmobber throws out accusations then they are PROJECTING their own flaws
    and lo Breitbart say

    British left-winger Mike Stuchbery currently collects donations from Patreon. Yet he has repeatedly encouraged and supported violence on his Twitter account, most recently defending an incident in which a teenage Trump supporter was attacked and robbed in a Whataburger restaurant for wearing a MAGA hat. Although he later backtracked on those statements, Stuchbery has also said that Trump supporters are the modern-day equivalent of Nazi brownshirts and that Nazis should be punched.

    Patreon insists that Generation Identity, which publicly disavows violence, is violent, and went so far as to ban Brittanny Pettibone simply for expressing support for the group. But Stuchbery, who uses Twitter to openly defend violence, is allowed to continue using Patreon.

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    • StewGreen says:

      More on Stuchbery and projection
      ..I had suspected some kind of mental illness, and yes he is on a regime of daily medication.
      – His tweets show he has called on followers to get targets banned from Twitter.
      He himself sent a reply once “Kill whitey”, which he regrets sending .

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  40. StewGreen says:

    Saturday on ItV a super privileged person will claim big #Victimhood

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  41. Fedup2 says:

    Al beeb website carrying the names and faces of 6 Muslim Pakistani child rapists.

    Nothing new there

    But I’m guessing the story will be relegated to loca news by 6 pm and then gone with all the others .

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  42. StewGreen says:

    Outrage as members of Merkel party’s youth wing filmed singing ‘Nazi-era’ song
    https://www.rt.com/news/444182-germany-cdu-youth-wehrmacht-song/

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  43. Fedup2 says:

    Cheers Stew

    Nice tecky.

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  44. honestus says:

    casting around today for some alternative news as BBBC faux praises May and sinks lower into the pit of vacuous soundbites and trivia.
    Happened upon LBC and the huge intellect (his words) of James O’B. Second time i have so stumbled this week.
    First, caught his amazing impression of a Leave voter, clearly of low intellect with a slow cockney-ish drawl along the lines of Duhhhh! How I laughed at his searing wit.
    Today, piss take rendition of Rule Britannia aimed at the patriotism of sovereignty seeking leavers. All because of a democratic vote that he and his fellow bubble dwellers lost. Sad innit.

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    • honestus says:

      Patriotic cockney by the way, not as offended as perhaps I should be. Must remember to eat my snowflakes in the morning!

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  45. Fedup2 says:

    So who is the next brexit sec?

    Soubry
    Grieve
    K Clarke ?

    It’s a very attractive job – but of travel between London and Brussels but no responsibility or work to do as Olley – lord Robinson is doing all the selling out in the Cabinet Office .

    How Gove and Fox can stay in the Cabinet is beyond me but I suppose they are playing the personal career game .

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  46. StewGreen says:

    The Leicester fire , court hears it was a murderous insurance scam by 3 Kurdish Muslims
    with the 37 year old letting his 22 yeatr old Polish girlfriend die cos she knew too much
    4 other people died in the flat above.
    The defendants were caught on shop CCTV buying petrol and smoke alarms.

    We presumed it was another terrorist thing like a bomb factory
    … Didn’t police/media say it was a tragic accident ?
    For once the BBC page doesn’t look evasive
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-46194090

    Note The Times again does not allow comments on a Muslim story… maybe cos ongoing court case ?

       17 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Heard a BBC report on the conviction . The names were not mentioned which automatically raises the suspicion .

         9 likes

  47. Payne by name says:

    I see that the Beeb are delighted that Gove and Fox are backing Theresa May. I’m not surprised by that oily snake Gove but Fox.

    Okay, he doesn’t come across as the most reliable but the ‘deal’ effectively destroys the role that he was meant to be serious about – International Trade – but clearly wasn’t.

    And Leadsom, jesus christ woman. How is this abomination anything like what you campaigned for? Letting this go and rubber stamping it is a betrayal of all of those who supported you. Do you have no code or conscience?

       24 likes

    • Dave S says:

      There is a quote from Saint Exupery which sums those two up
      “The seed of the bramble can only become bramble”
      Nothing more to say about either of them.
      They are now what they were always going to be.

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      • fakenewswatcher says:

        Dave- wasn’t it he who wrote something about stars and wind? Very fashionable, are stars. Specially on blue.

           5 likes

        • Dave S says:

          Wind Sand and Stars . One of the best insights into the Islamic mindset I have read.
          Written in the 1930s . By no means hostile but SE understood the huge gulf that separates our ways from theirs and documents it well.
          Read it if you can.

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    • Beltane says:

      Quite right Payne, Gove’s duplicity started immediately after the Referendum, stabbing Boris and starting the chain of uncertainty developing into incompetence and chicanery that we now enjoy. Had there been a united, dependable and reliable group prepared to oversee Brexit, May would never have had the opportunity to f**k the process as comprehensively as she has.
      Another government inspired bit of double dealing is, all too obviously, Dacre’s replacement as editor at the Mail. That a once forthright – if too frequently dismal – source of news has suddenly begun to embrace the party line is shameful though at least it leaves bBBC paramount in reliability.
      PS Asterisks in deference to those who prefer to call a spade an agricultural implement.

         13 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        Beltane
        Thank you and everyone here for their restraint under very trying circumstances .

        I like industrial language but it’s best not used here because we might upset the snowflake beeboids looking at the site as well as the poor kid from the ‘hate police’ looking for some one to do …

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        • Loobyloo says:

          Thanks for continuing Fedup! It’s a refuge for myself and many others in these exasperating times.
          I agree on the language front – you have to have rules (ie what sort of language is too far..f & C, speaking with true violence, racism, homophobia). I’m not a prude by any stretch but I know when something feels wrong. I think it’s a pretty good reflection of this site that only a few have been banned over the years (as far as I know).
          Talking of that, where is Maxi?

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  48. StewGreen says:

    would you donate to a charity that pays David Milliband £680K

    And the media have the gore to shout that Tommy is in it for the money !

       16 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Milli keeps on sounding out his return to Blighty to save our country – he thinks he is the only one who can .
      Thankfully the nonsense about another party of remainers is too late now . The big barrier is to get those 856 pages ditched by the time the heads of EU states are due to meet the PM – whoever that might be .

         10 likes

    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Another good ‘socialist’.

         10 likes

  49. StewGreen says:

    Wow Wednesday it was three boats of migrants caught in the channel
    – 10 on fishing boat
    – 9 in dingy
    – 5 on rigid inflatable.

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  50. fakenewswatcher says:

    Ottoman Balkans again? Been saying for years: watch Erdogan. He wants to be Sultan of a revived Ottoman Empire, and perhaps even bag the good old EU in the process. Today ‘Die Welt’ carries an interesting article about Bosnia headed: ‘The Erdoganisation of the Balkans’.
    Only, this time the Sultan has a very bold and very solid foot in Germany (my observation, not that of ‘Die Welt’). Merkel is paying him E6billion to ‘protect’ her borders, by stopping the flow of migrants. Is there anyone more foolish and treacherous than this woman? (I know someone comes to mind, but keep your eyes on the Ottomans for a minute, cos the media like to divert you with Kashoggi and other trivia).
    The article I speak about tells of how the new Ottoman Sultan is pouring money into Bosnia and other Balkan states, rebuilding mosques etc etc
    The EU, which May is so keen to keep us attached to, not to mention Labour, Limpdums, beeb etc, may in the not to distant future be dominated by new member, Turkey. And it is just possible that by then the Balkans will have been ‘Erdoganised’.
    And the ‘West’ think Putin is the enemy. There’s no delusion quite like self-delusion! (Will we live long enough to see a ‘repeat’ of WW1, in which The Ottomans are the prime mover, and the Germans &EU enlisted to help them, or is this simply the old imagination, getting carried away?)

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