469 Responses to Start the Week Open Thread 8 April 2019

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  1. Dover Sentry says:
    April 9, 2019 at 11:37 pm

    There’s a saying. ‘The truth is what people believe’.

    It applies to Climate Change believers. It applies to Trump haters.

    It applies to Brexit haters.

    Facts don’t matter.

    The BBC foster this.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_truth_effect

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    • Annunaki says:
      April 10, 2019 at 12:20 am

      And there is the truth, from those like me who have studied the same at university who will never be heard but nevertheless, look up north atlantic bottom drift…

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  2. StewGreen says:
    April 9, 2019 at 11:52 pm

    PETER TATCHELL march 26 the times
    Free speech is under threat over Islamophobia
    \\ The All-Party Parliamentary Group (APPG) on British Muslims has produced a well-intentioned but worrisome definition of Islamophobia. It states: “Islamophobia is rooted in racism and is a type of racism that targets expressions of Muslimness or perceived Muslimness”.

    There are two big problems with this definition. First, while Islamophobia can be an expression of racism, it is not in itself racist because neither Islam nor Muslims are a race.
    Islam is an idea and Muslims include people from many races. Second, this definition has implications for free speech.
    Like all ideas Islam should be open to scrutiny and criticism.
    Yet very often all critiques of Islam are denounced as an attack on Muslim people.
    This is unfair. In a free society, it is perfectly valid to criticise the idea of Islam.

    What is not acceptable is to be prejudiced against Muslim people and consequently to victimise them. I try to avoid the term Islamophobia. Anti-Muslim hatred is much better, since it focuses on prejudice against Muslim people and their life chances. ..

    From personal experience, I know how the smear of Islamophobia is used to silence debate and critics. In 1994, I protested against the Islamist extremist group Hizb ut-Tahrir. It had endorsed the killing of LGBT people, women who have sex outside of marriage and Muslims who turn away from their faith. I was denounced as Islamophobic. //
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comment/free-speech-is-under-threat-over-islamophobia-85r6h8czr

    only 4 accounts tweeted that story
    Only one was establihment : National Secular Society

    Commenter : Christian culture is ridiculed all the time, so there is a double standard.

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  3. StewGreen says:
    April 10, 2019 at 12:07 am

    Sisi bans officials from talking to ‘misleading BBC’
    March 26 The Times
    SIS An Egyptian media watchdog has ordered a boycott of the BBC for its “politicised and misleading” coverage of political dissent.

    SIS accused the broadcaster of fronting a campaign led by the Muslim Brotherhood, whose government was overthrown in a military coup led by President Sisi in 2013.

    The SIS pointed out that the broadcaster had included videos of two pro-Brotherhood TV presenters based in Turkey alongside footage of protests.
    The watchdog claimed that the authenticity of the videos had not been verified, and labelled the report inaccurate and biased. It summoned the BBC’s Cairo bureau chief and demanded an apology from the network. Egypt’s top media regulator, the Supreme Media Council, also recommended taking legal action against the BBC and a fine of £11,000.

    This is not the first time that the SIS has criticised the BBC. Last year the broadcaster came under fire for a video report on disappearances in Egypt. A mother interviewed for the programme accused the Egyptian authorities of kidnapping her daughter. After the report she was jailed for spreading false news and the daughter appeared on local television saying that she had run away. The BBC stood by its report.

    Human Rights Watch has estimated that at least 230 people have disappeared at the hands of the Egyptian authorities in the 12 months to August last year. //
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/egypt-orders-boycott-of-bbc-over-politicised-reporting-v6qlm6tbd

    EGYPTIAN STREETS MARCH 25, 2019
    \\ Egypt’s State Information Service (SIS) issued a statement on Sunday accusing the British Broadcasting Cooperation (BBC) of “promoting the lies of the Muslim Brotherhood terrorist group” in an article published on the BBC’s Arabic-language website.

    BBC Arabic published a report on an anti-Sisi hashtag — “Don’t worry, you’re not alone” — which called for demonstrations against the president.

    In the statement, the SIS stated that the report “breaches the most basic codes of conduct… fabricating events that never took place.”

    It urged “all officials and Egyptian intellectuals” to boycott the BBC until the broadcast apologizes.

    The statement slammed the article’s use of pro-Muslim Brotherhood videos which had not been verified by the BBC, and for not including any statements from Egyptian officials.

    “This violates universal professional codes of conduct, as the BBC’s Cairo office with its dozens of correspondents nationwide should have tried to actually investigate whether the content of these videos were authentic,” the SIS stated.

    “The BBC’s failure to take this necessary step before publishing the article seems intentional in order to legitimise the allegations of media outlets affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood — a terrorist organisation.”

    “It seems the Brotherhood are the only ones who witnessed [these protests] and the BBC is the only accredited foreign media outlet that has promoted them,” the statement added. //
    https://egyptianstreets.com/2019/03/25/egypt-calls-for-boycott-of-bbc-after-anti-sisi-report/

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  4. taffman says:
    April 10, 2019 at 12:15 am

    Anyone see anything on Al Beeb about chocolate ducks ?
    Am I missing something down in Taffland or has it Trumped Al Beeb?
    Ah, they don’t do comedy do they?

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  5. Annunaki says:
    April 10, 2019 at 12:22 am

    murdering black bastards with knives ok black chocolate ducks is bad

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    • taffman says:
      April 10, 2019 at 12:28 am

      Annunaki
      ?

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      • StewGreen says:
        April 10, 2019 at 1:13 am

        Yes Annunaki, the wording “black b’ds” is racist
        ..so censor yourself

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        • Annunaki says:
          April 10, 2019 at 6:18 am

          The daily stabbing report:
          Wednesday: and what colour are they cannot say as that is racist:
          Man fights for life after being ‘run over’ and stabbed in south east London while police probe three more attacks including two that are potentially linked as the capital’s knife crime bloodbath continues

          London’s bloodbath continued as three more people were stabbed in the capital
          Two men were both stabbed in Kilburn this morning in attacks that may be linked
          Third man, in his 20s, was stabbed in his leg in Walthamstow, north east London
          The latest stabbing was in Eltham, south east London during a moped robbery

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          • Annunaki says:
            April 10, 2019 at 6:21 am

            TREVOR PHILLIPS Race is a part of knife crime and we must speak the truth even if media avoids mentions of ethnicity

            Nothing could be more relevant than race in the fight against knife crime and failing to point this out imperils yet more children of colour

            THE skies are darkening over our island for boys like the teenager who was disembowelled in this week’s knife attack in Camberwell, South London.

            This attack is the latest in a senseless war between gangs — almost all comprised of black or Asian youngsters.

            https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7048801/race-knife-crime-truth-media-avoids/

            This year three of the killings have taken place within ten minutes of my doorstep.

            My own affluent North London street is surrounded by estates populated in part by the ethnic groups whose names feature in virtually every report of the violence: Somalis, Ethiopians, North and Central Africans, Afghans.

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            • Annunaki says:
              April 10, 2019 at 6:42 am

              Police officers should be exempt from race discrimination laws in order to target black youths in high crime areas, the former chairman of the Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) has said.

              Trevor Phillips said that “white liberals” need to stop “hand-wringing” and admit the truth that the wave of knife crime is black children killing black children.

              He called for officers to target high-risk inner-city areas and to be exempt from laws which prevent them discriminating on the basis of someone’s race or ethnic origin.
              https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/11/11/policefighting-knife-violence-should-exempt-race-discrimination/

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              • Annunaki says:
                April 10, 2019 at 6:48 am

                https://fullfact.org/crime/are-majority-youth-knife-offenders-minority-ethnic/
                Claim

                Two thirds of knife offenders under 25 were black or minority ethnic.
                Conclusion

                In England and Wales 38% of knife possession offenders under 25s were non-white in 2017. It was two thirds in London.

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                • Annunaki says:
                  April 10, 2019 at 6:49 am

                  Black people in the capital are disproportionately the victims of murder when compared with other groups, new figures have revealed.

                  A Sky News freedom of information request to every police force in the country showed London was unique when it came to murder statistics.
                  https://news.sky.com/story/black-murder-victims-and-suspects-london-v-uk-11443656
                  Almost half of murder victims – as well as suspects – were black despite the ethnic group accounting for just 13% of London’s population.

                  White people in London make up 60% of the population, but only account for 35% of murder victims and 24% of murder suspects.

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                  • Annunaki says:
                    April 10, 2019 at 6:54 am

                    https://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/walter-e-williams/true-black-tragedy-illegitimacy-rate-nearly-75The True Black Tragedy: Illegitimacy Rate of Nearly 75%
                    Walter E. Williams
                    By Walter E. Williams | May 19, 2015 | 6:50 AM EDT
                    (AP Photo)

                    Hustlers and people with little understanding want us to believe that today’s black problems are the continuing result of a legacy of slavery, poverty and racial discrimination. The fact is that most of the social pathology seen in poor black neighborhoods is entirely new in black history. Let’s look at some of it.

                    Today the overwhelming majority of black children are raised in single female-headed families. As early as the 1880s, three-quarters of black families were two-parent. In 1925 New York City, 85 percent of black families were two-parent. One study of 19th-century slave families found that in up to three-fourths of the families, all the children had the same mother and father.

                    Today’s black illegitimacy rate of nearly 75 percent is also entirely new. In 1940, black illegitimacy stood at 14 percent. It had risen to 25 percent by 1965, when Daniel Patrick Moynihan wrote “The Negro Family: The Case for National Action” and was widely condemned as a racist. By 1980, the black illegitimacy rate had more than doubled, to 56 percent, and it has been growing since. Both during slavery and as late as 1920, a teenage girl raising a child without a man present was rare among blacks.

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                    • Annunaki says:
                      April 10, 2019 at 6:55 am

                      Much of today’s pathology seen among many blacks is an outgrowth of the welfare state that has made self-destructive behavior less costly for the individual. Having children without the benefit of marriage is less burdensome if the mother receives housing subsidies, welfare payments and food stamps. Plus, the social stigma associated with unwed motherhood has vanished. Female-headed households, whether black or white, are a ticket for dependency and all of its associated problems. Ignored in all discussions is the fact that the poverty rate among black married couples has been in single digits since 1994.

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                  • countryblues says:
                    April 10, 2019 at 12:11 pm

                    According to the 2011 Census, London was 45% White British…I assume it’s less than that by now 🙁

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    • Annunaki says:
      April 10, 2019 at 7:39 am

      A rephrase: the plethora of vicious bastards murdering people in London on a daily basis, tha vast majority black, is not seen as a race issue, which it undoubtedly is due to a variety of reasons such as absent fathers, love of violent role models (black gang culture including their “music”) , welfare dependence etc, etc, yet a black chocolate duck becomes a racial news story which it undoubtedly is not.

      I was explaining to my wife about the boy scout movement yesterday and the fun we used to have camping etc learning various skills in the 70s and it occurred to me can you imagine any of this lot above even contemplating joining such a movement ? (despite having plenty of tools available to whittle some twigs)

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  6. StewGreen says:
    April 10, 2019 at 1:00 am

    Another story from end of March
    Hindu sisters ‘kidnapped, converted to Islam & married off’ in Pakistan
    \\ The girls, Raveena (16) and Reena (14), were allegedly abducted by a group of men from Pakistan’s Sindh Province and forced into marriage, after converting to Islam against their will. A video which seemed to show a cleric performing the marriage later went viral online. //
    https://www.rt.com/news/454730-hindu-girls-india-pakistan

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    • Lucy Pevensey says:
      April 10, 2019 at 1:29 am

      Stew,
      Islam is an affliction on mankind.
      That’s what British girls have to look forward to in the future if we don’t check it back in this country.

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  7. Lucy Pevensey says:
    April 10, 2019 at 1:30 am

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  8. Doublethinker says:
    April 10, 2019 at 12:34 pm

    I see on Fox that the battle of the Deep State in the US has taken a significant turn for the better. Today a whole host of information showing that there definitely was a failed coup attempted by the Deep State to firstly , make sure Clinton was elected by smearing candidate Trump , and then to remove him from office once he was elected. What’s more the Attormey General has pledged that he will hold a wide ranging investigation into it , starting from the summer of 2016. This is almost certain to end up with a host of top ex Obama officials facing jail and at the very least Obama’s image being severely tarnished. It’s a massive blow against the Deep State and the swamp.
    As significant as the prosecutions will be the realisation by millions of Americans , perhaps tens of millions, that they have been deliberately and systematically lied to by the MSM for the past three years.This will be tremendous news for the re-election of the President in 2020 as Americans will no longer view his achievements through a veil of lies and innuendo.
    The battle raging in the US is one of the fronts , perhaps the key one, in the world wide war of the People vThe Globalists, Brexit and Immigration being two other significant fronts. The Globalists use control of the MSM as a key weapon in this war, the BBC being a perfect example. It will be a great victory if the American people realise that they were being played by the MSM and turn against it , doubting everything that appears on CNN, NBC, in the NYT and WP etc. The Globalists will find that one of their key weapons has been neutralised. Hopefully ,with the example of Brexit to relate to , the same will happen here opposite the BBC, Times , Ch4 , Sky etc. Anyone who reads the Guardian should be sectioned anyway so it doesn’t count.

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  9. Celtic_Mist says:
    April 10, 2019 at 5:06 pm

    The beauty must be feeling pissed off –

    “JERUSALEM — Benjamin Netanyahu’s apparent re-election as prime minister of Israel attests to a starkly conservative vision of the Jewish state and its people about where they are and where they are headed. They prize stability, as well as the military and economic security that Mr. Netanyahu has delivered.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/10/world/middleeast/benjamin-netanyahu-israel-election.html

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