Mid Week Open Thread 22 May 2019

Having looked at the average turn out for EU elections the UK average is about 35% against an EU average of 42%. All indications are that the turn out will be far higher for the UK this time . But notice something – no public leader debates on the TV – and possible breaches of election law by the BBC in their coverage .

We wont find out the results of the EU Elections until Sunday the 26th May . The bigger the vote for The Brexit Party – the bigger the distraction exercise by the BBC …

Oh Yes – and if you vote – please use a pen .

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397 Responses to Mid Week Open Thread 22 May 2019

  1. Will Jones says:

    So that’s her plan.

    Jesus wept.

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    • Dover Sentry says:

      You’re not quite first. I used the Norwegian method and route. Always works for me.

      May? Who’s she?

         23 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      Backlinks
      We are on new thread already
      ; if you are looking for Tuesday’s posts they started
      on page 3 and 7 spilled over onto page 4.

         9 likes

    • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

      In her quest to keep everyone happy she has declared the 6-0 win by Manchester City over Watford to be void.
      What happens now is that both teams will be declared the winner and there will be no losers. Everybody gets something although not what they wanted. A compromise.

      Of course, Man City don’t want it. Why should they. They won.
      And Watford don’t want it. It’s humiliating for them.
      But with May’s compromise they all get a bit of something.

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  2. Doublethinker says:

    So the PM has moved to offering a second referendum in order to get her surrender document approved by the HoC. This is now likely to be passed by the Remainer majority in the commons. Of course the vote will take place after the Euro elections which TBH will easily gain most seats. Leavers will rightly claim that after the election results the present PM or indeed the Remainer HoC has no mandate to even continue to negotiate on Brexit let alone sign off on the pathetic WA . But their claims and the anger of millions who voted Leave will get nowhere. The establishment are in effect saying f*** democracy we are doing what we want. And so democracy dies in our country and we lurch into the post democratic era. What happens now? What do those who have been robbed , not just of their referendum choice, but of their democratic rights , do now ? How do you govern a country when the majority of the people , the tax payers, don’t believe that you have the right to do so. How long will the Remainer elite be able to govern without the consent of the people? They can suppress the anger for weeks, months but can they do so for years? We live in interesting times.

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  3. Captain Panick says:

    As none of you stated, in writing, that you were first, you failed. I state, here and now, that I am first. Bow down before my premier post. Look, I am first. Stop it. I am stamping my feet, and screaming until you acknowledge this simple fact. And now, my Nanny will tuck me into my bed. Thank you Nanny.
    Oh, Mornington Crescent, by the way.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      CP, South Woodford to you!

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      • Captain Panick says:

        Up2, the game is over. Are you starting a new challenge?

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Why not play by ‘Crossrail ‘ rules ?

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          • Captain Panick says:

            CrossRail, another late project, and massively over cost. And then, having escaped from my bedclothes, I remembered HS2. The aim, to link all EU cities by High Speed Rail. But, no money into the UK from the Strasbourg Drunkards. The BBC are massively in favour. So reject it.

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-speed_rail_in_Europe

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          • Up2snuff says:

            CP & Fed, am still in Fed land up by Whipps Cross. I must move away from that picture.

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        • Captain Panick says:

          Up2, the correct response is either Upney, or East Ham. That would be just beyond Barking.

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          • Up2snuff says:

            CP, I’m well beyond Barking, mate!

            I have just seen the front page of today’s Daily Telegraph:
            https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-48360623

            The string of pics of the PM made me whimper and scurry away with my tail between my legs. This hound ain’t happy!*

            *especially after this morning’s shameful TOADY programme. I missed the first 40 mins (asleep!) and switched off after Martha let two High Churchmen get out of control after the Govey interview at 8.10am.

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      • Dover Sentry says:

        Ex-Clayhall!

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  4. Lucy Pevensey says:

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  5. Up2snuff says:

    I would be very happy if 63% of the vote in the UK part of the EU Elections went to The Brexit Party on Thursday. If it did, the TOADY Programme would make for interesting listening on Monday morning.

    I’d settle for 53% to 55% as second choice. 53% would pointedly underline another result that had a 52.something% vote. Now, what was that … so long ago …. ?

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  6. Fedup2 says:

    Up2
    I think Monday is a Bank Holiday and the rest of the week is kiddie holidays so the BBC will be ‘powered down ‘ to make it look like the EU elections never happened – unless – of course – the no change party ( or whatever it’s called ) win a seat . Then the Reich flags will be waving alone with Vince Cable and his band of airheads .

    The Parliamentary recess is 23 May until 4 June .

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Fed, I’m hoping that all the other Parties, with the exception of UKIP, get votes of single figure %ages.

      As for the ‘No Change, Unsteady as We Are’ Party, I hope they get a single figure, just one single%, not that they will understand that message or would understand the message even if they obtain a derisory 2% or 3% share.

      Parliament likes its hols, doesn’t it? Time for some constituency work. I shall ask my MP – again – to explain why they voted to make me poorer.

      Even if the TOADY Show is cut by an hour for the BH, they will have to come up with an awful lot of gas clouds off Beachy Head to explain away the passing of wind that I hope the British electorate will send the REUmainers and Remoaners.

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  7. vlad says:

    Imagine the beeb’s response if milkshake had been thrown at, say, Saint Obama of Kenya or Saint Cox of Batley…

    Wall to wall outrage, and pretentious articles about ‘it starts with milkshake and ends with acid, or shootings’ etc.

    But Farage? Bit of a larf, innit.

    Tommy? Had it coming, didn’t he.

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    • RobRoy says:

      And why do the BBC feel the need to tell us the flavour of the milkshake FFS!

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  8. Fedup2 says:

    This Milkshake Spring isn’t political violence – it’s political theatre
    Aditya Chakrabortty – The Guardian .

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    • Fedup2 says:

      The BBC devoted an hour to the traitor Alistair Campbell and his depression . I can presume the profits went into his production company – or maybe he gave it to a depression charity – can but guess .

      Anyway – Mr Campbell’s depression explains a lot about his hysterical hatred of all things brexit . And I think it is amazing that this character – who was / is a political thug – still gets air time on the State Broadcasters – despite never having held public office and effectively being a jumped up journo .

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      • MartinW says:

        … if, indeed it is depression. I have always been suspicious of this perhaps self-diagnosis. Do we know when this ‘depression’ started, and for how long it has been treated by qualified practitioners, and is Campbell still under the care of such? An alternative view is that this might only be a case of someone with occasional down-periods (as most people experience) who has seen some political advantage in elevating it to ‘depression’.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Aaah, speaking of ‘Springs’, Fed, something has been lurking at the back of my mind, have the BBC missed another 50th Anniversary?

      Yes, connected with the Prague Spring and its overturning – which they missed – but an outcome, tragic as it was, of that Prague Spring.

      19 January 2019?

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    • Banania says:

      It’s “ludic” – Zoe Williams of the Guardian.

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  9. davylars says:

    Oh my. 10 O’clock news.
    BBC report from Hungary trying to influence the European elections.
    Desperately finding anyone critical of Viktor Orbán‘s policy of immigration to interview…

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    • Wild Bill says:

      Why would the people of Hungary want to open their gates to mass immigration from Africa, Iran, Somalia etc., they would be insane?

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  10. Lucy Pevensey says:

    I’m not pinning too much hope on Thursday’s elections or the Brexit Party. Lots of people seem to think it will be the end of the Tory Party. How so? These are only EU elections. I read they will be taking 3 days to “count the votes” .
    There are suspicions that the past Spanish general elections have been a fraud. The Socialist Party, supported by Soros, won unexpectedly.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Lucy – it May be the beginning of the end of the Tories 1333 councillors dumped 2 weeks ago – potential for no Tory representation in the Reich EU parliament – hopefully a steep downward slope to extinction and replacement by a Right Wing Party which doesn’t do manifestos . A bit like The Brexit Party – but sadly won’t be ‘ right’ enough for me ..,,

      As for fiddling with the results – I wouldn’t be surprised . It would have to be well planned and concealed but anything can be done given the will .

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      • Lucy Pevensey says:

        It made no difference in my area. The Cons held. There was no alternative other than Greens, Liebour & Lib Dumbs.

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  11. vlad says:

    It seems al beeb is now advertising cheap sex tourism. What other purpose can this voyeuristic article have?

    “He paid me $0.57 for sex all day”

    _107036974_p079snk3.jpg

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-africa-48342229/sierra-leone-what-is-life-like-for-the-prostitutes-of-freetown

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  12. taffman says:

    Brexiteers – Don’t forget the adage …………………..
    “The closer to the target the more the flak” .
    Al Beeb and the Remainers – Brace yourselves for the results .

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  13. Captain Panick says:

    Another BBC headline hides the real story.

    BBC Headline….Nan Winton : First woman to read BBC TV news dies.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-dorset-48348661

    My version. Nancy Wiggington, the first BBC TV news reader to be fired by the BBC after reading only seven times.

    ‘Describing the then editorial staff as “men in their middle years” who had come from Fleet Street, Winton recalled how the bosses were a “bit ambivalent” about her.
    By October the same year, Winton had read the late bulletin seven times before she was taken off the Nine O’Clock News programme.
    Michael Peacock, a BBC television executive, called Winton in to his office and sacked her.
    “He didn’t say why… and I was furious,” she said.’

    Nancy Wigginton, who was better known as Nan Winton, became the first female TV newsreader at the corporation on 20 June 1960.
    Winton was an experienced journalist who had worked on Panorama and Town and Around before she joined the television news reading team.
    The retired television and radio broadcaster, who lived in Bridport, Dorset, died in hospital on 11 May.

    Although Winton was to be the first female BBC newsreader, Barbara Mandell had been a regular in TV news for ITN from 1955.
    News of the decision, dubbed by the BBC at the time as an “experiment” but made partly in response to the challenge of commercial television, prompted much debate.
    Television bosses at the time believed Winton was serious enough to overcome prejudiced voices in the media that said women were “too frivolous to be the bearers of grave news”
    However, Winton’s on-screen role was short lived after viewers deemed a woman reading the late news was “not acceptable”, according to BBC audience research.
    Speaking in a BBC documentary about her career in 1997, Winton said she “didn’t realise at the time what a revolutionary thing it was”.
    “I did realise everybody was getting very excited about it,” the broadcaster added.
    “I didn’t have any trouble from the press or the public. It was the editorial staff who were a bit dodgy.”

    Describing the then editorial staff as “men in their middle years” who had come from Fleet Street, Winton recalled how the bosses were a “bit ambivalent” about her.
    By October the same year, Winton had read the late bulletin seven times before she was taken off the Nine O’Clock News programme.
    Michael Peacock, a BBC television executive, called Winton in to his office and sacked her.
    “He didn’t say why… and I was furious,” she said.
    There would not be a regular female newsreader until Angela Rippon joined the Nine O’Clock News presentation team in 1975.
    Winton went on to work for ITV before retiring.
    An inquest was opened into her death at Bournemouth Coroner’s Court on 16 May.
    Fran Unsworth, the current BBC director of news and current affairs, paid tribute to Winton.
    “At a time when we have a host of brilliant women who present, edit, film and report the BBC news, we should look back and pay tribute to trailblazers such as Nan, the first female newsreader on the BBC,” she said.’

    Fran Unsworth. Scum.

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    • TrueToo says:

      Yes, Fran Unsworth,

      I can’t find that cringeworthy interview she had with Newswatch after Kriss Donald was savagely tortured and murdered by a Muslim gang because he was white. Newswatch challenged her on why there was so little BBC coverage of the murder and trial.

      “It happened on the weekend,” was one of the pathetic excuses she came up with, when everyone knows it was because he was a white victim murdered by Muslim barbarians.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      CP, when you look at the article it becomes apparent that Nan Winton ‘towered’ above her colleagues (in all sorts of ways), including the Editorial team, no doubt.

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  14. taffman says:

    “Holidaymakers hit as pound slides”
    More scare tactics from Al Beeb . Do they tell you when the pound rallies?
    Do they tell you its good for tourism ?
    Help Great Britain by spending your holidays here .

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  15. Captain Panick says:

    A call from Jordan ‘Nobby’ NOBBS on the BBC to research links between Anterior Cruciate Ligament injuries and Female periods.

    https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/48333161

    Perhaps another call from Sergeant Angua to research female werewolf sanitary requirements might be rather more helpful?

    In memory of Sir Terry Pratchett. With love, and many thanks.

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    • JimS says:

      Fortunately I don’t watch any sports, but for those that do the bad news is:

      “BBC Sport has launched #ChangeTheGame this summer to showcase female athletes in a way they never have been before. Through more live women’s sport available to watch across the BBC this summer, complemented by our journalism, we are aiming to turn up the volume on women’s sport and alter perceptions.”

      Or , “We’ve lost all the big stuff to the opposition. Really you will learn to like snook fish cakes, (it’s all there is)”.

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  16. vlad says:

    Game of Thrones: How much do its female characters speak?

    Female characters in Game of Thrones get considerably less speaking time than male characters in the show, according to new data.

    “It was compiled by research group Ceretai for BBC 100 Women.”

    Nice to know the extortion tax money is being well spent.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-48335099

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    • Not Gwent says:

      Never having watched GoT everyone’s mute; a perfect 50:50 balance then?

      Did Ceretai for BBC 100 Women check the ratio of male to female speech from Newsnight from last night (I’m afraid I missed that too)?

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    • Dystopian says:

      “Game of Thrones: How much do its female characters speak?

      Female characters in Game of Thrones get considerably less speaking time than male characters in the show, according to new data.”

      Maybe Naz Shah told them to keep their mouths shut for the sake of diversity.

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      • Banania says:

        DId she mean, let them keep quiet and get on with doing what they’re good at?

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  17. LastChanceSaloon says:

    Boris.
    Here is your opportunity to become Prime Minister.
    Your speech, stating that you are a candidate, must contain a commitment that, as PM, you will initiate an investigation as to whether treason charges can be brought against Heath, Major, Blair, Brown and May.

    Identical charges must be brought against lesser suspects.

    Before these investigations begin you must introduce legislation, under which capital punishment is mandatory
    for treason, and your legislation must specifically demand ex post facto action.

    I do not believe that you are of the stature of the woman recently voted the best UK PM ever, but I am willing,
    as never before, to be proved wrong.

    If you need advice, apart from mine, the best friend the UK ever had is now POTUS.

    The UK is at war, if you become PM you must acquire, and deserve, the name of Boris the Swamp Drainer.

    As PM please begin the process of eliminating our enemies within.
    As PM please ensure the UK is prepared to resist our many enemies without, starting with the EU.

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  18. Roland Deschain says:

    #CCBGB

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    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      RD
      What is this “actresses” nonsense?
      For the last five years these female persons have been described as actors by the, unisexual, BBC, The Washington Post, The New York Times …
      I assume they now have equal pay, and are demanding more.

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    • TrueToo says:

      Roland Deschain,

      Huh? The BBC is distinguishing between actors and actresses?! Don’t they know that is sexist?

      I’m sure those actre… er, actors will complain bitterly and the BBC will abjectly apologise and immediately delete the tweet.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Pretty sure YAB and Abbott will have more to say.

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    • Eddy Booth says:

      The dragon Drogon has zero speaking time, but says most by melting the iron throne , by breathing on it , pointing out what a silly game it all was.

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  19. theisland says:

    Little Owen pops up.

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    • vlad says:

      Aw, Diddums.

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    • TrueToo says:

      theisland,

      More whining from Owen Jones? He is such a wimp and a snowflake. That he could achieve any kind of prominence is an indictment on lefty society.

      I recall that in one of Paul Weston’s videos he described Jones as a “pipsqueak.” That really fits.

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    • Eddy Booth says:

      ‘Owen Jones
      ”For those claiming this didn’t happen..” ‘

      Some context might help when posting here!

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  20. Not Gwent says:

    Was Owen Jones worried about being ‘milkshaked’? A gather that’s what passes for political discourse in 2019.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Apparently in queer ‘culture ‘ milkshake has another meaning ( I looked it up on googly as I am not of that ‘type ‘ which I under stand master jones is ) …

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      • Not Gwent says:

        Yes I recall there was a popular song about it set in a school playground?

        I do wonder how the Guardian smirkers would react if one of their heros was publicly humiliated? Would that be the point at which ‘political theatre’ stopped?

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  21. LastChanceSaloon says:

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/may/21/theresa-may-brexit-withdrawal-bill-parliament-vote

    “HenrikSweden67
    No matter what the poor Mrs. May is doing to try organizing an orderly Brexit, she is confonted with No from right to left.
    Since the cradle of and beacon for democracy, the House of Commons has shown its complete incompetence in a matter of utmost national importance,
    I feel very desillusioned. And in my darkest hours,

    I hope the EU will solve the problem for you; by not granting any further extension of article 50, meaning a no deal Haloween Brexit.

    In all those endless debates and infighting in Britain, I wished you could at least recognize the mood in other EU Member States.
    As a non British proud EU citizen, my feelings are; Just leave.
    We are utterly tired of this circus where every EU Summit and meeting is about the bloody Brexit.
    We did not ask for it, nor did we force it upon you. It is an enterly British affair. But please, make up your minds before we do it for you.

    If you can’t pass the quite reasonable deal, I can only, in dispair, hope for a no deal that at least would put an end to the UK hi-jacking of European Summits where a number of other, far more, important issues need to be dealt with (China, EU-US Trade, border security etc.) The whole stupid Brexit process had undoubtedly damaged Britain.
    But don’t let it damage the EU more than it already has by consuming all sessions and meetings.
    I am not alone in beeing completely fed-up by this.”

    HS67 registered with the Guardian on 2019-02-07, and has been ubiquitous in the last week.
    “dispair”, HS67 inserts a few “English errors” into he/she/its comments to suggest that an authentic Swedish view is being presented.
    I strongly suspect that this is, yet another, Guardian journalist (paid by the TV licence) on overtime.
    I cannot find any comments about Swedish women “dispairing” about being raped by EU imports to Sweden, in hsi history.
    “border security”, you must be joking Polly/Zoe/Marina/hsi, the EU is responsible for the deliberately porous borders, the invaders vote EU.
    Temporarily.

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  22. Fedup2 says:

    Last
    An interesting view – I don’t agree with what this character says in relation to the House of Commons . It was done a fantastic job frustrating democracy – ignoring the votes of the people who gave MPs their seats – aided by a Speaker who will go down in history as an example of how power corrupts . They even got away with having a criminal deciding a national vote whilst wearing a tag – and Keith Vaz turning up despite being ‘too ill’. The only thing they missed on was having IRA MPs come across the water.

    There are remainer constituencies with remainer MPs – fair enough – but for the other 500 who have gone against their constituents votes – they are still in a job , they haven’t been ‘milkshaked’ And they can look forward to another 3 years of building their parliamentary pension and taking backhanders .
    There was an item about Middlesbrough yesterday – the brexit vote was 65% leave – yet the 4 labour MPs for the city are all remainers and all got their jobs 3 years later

    As for frustrating the ReichEU. Let’s all lose sleep over that . The EU failed to accommodate Cameron before he was made to call a referendum so blame can be shared around .

    I’m generally against governments – whether UK or EU because their views aren’t mine and all they think about is imposing more and more control on you and me- and you and me can pay for it too.

    As an aside – I switched on toady but the bee woman and the ethnic work experience girl was on so the off switch came into play after I heard the weather.

    Thinking back on the PMs speech yesterday Tuesday – she was at PWC to make it (why?) and kept looking up above the camera – it turns out there were a load of accountants at the back and she seemed to be talking to them. As some wag said – it looked like a hostage video .

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  23. Stevie m says:

    The environment can sleep a little easier now Michael Gove has banned cotton buds

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Yes, but how will I know which is which? Is the bud that little stick thingee, and the backstabber that thingee with the specs wot sticks close to May?
      I mean, I’d hate a stab in the eardrum…Painful perforation.

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  24. Fedup2 says:

    The BBC guidelines at 5 .4 .20. Describes how language should be controlled in BBC broadcasts . It includes guidance on ‘sexual bad language ‘ even so far as when the C word can be used and the variations on the F word

    Anyway – last week there was a world this weekend where mardell had a chat with a libdem – who used the term “b——to Brexit “ . I was in delicate company and upset was caused . So I put in my first complaint to the BBC because there was no warning about bad language , no editing out , no apology .

    Yesterday I received a ‘holding ‘ message saying they are still investigating the matter – heading for 2 weeks after the event .

    On my reading of the BBC guidelines ( know your enemy ) there is a clear breach and Mardell needs to do one of those apologies the BBC seems to think makes everything OK. I think I am owed compensation ….

    I will update when the full ‘finding ‘ comes through ….

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Up2 – Phew! For a minute there I thought you were saying ‘how language should be controlled BY bbc broadcasts…’

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  25. Fedup2 says:

    Muslim terrorists watch

    Today is the 6th anniversary of Lee Rigby being murdered by Islamic terrorists

    Today is the 2nd anniversary of the Manchester Arena slaughter my Islamic terrorists –

    I was reminded of this via twitter . RIP and those who died and those who did it burn in Hell fire ,

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  26. fakenewswatcher says:

    TOADY has sent Manveen Rana to investigate party election funding, and guess what she found?
    Yes, you guessed it. Only UKIP and the Brexit party were ‘infringing’, all the other angels -each one called by name- were being 100% good! Ping! Gold dust and stars on them all!
    If you believe this R4 propaganda, you’ll believe anything, starting with these kindly fairies…
    Come to think of it, if you believe anything you hear on R4, Toady in particular, it’s fairy dust to you….
    I mean, take liar, May. Would you believe a single word she says?
    Well, maybe in Fairyland.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Manveen seems well qualified to ‘investigate’ postal voting.

      Bet things are rosy there too.

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    • Not Gwent says:

      Take a break Election Commision the State Broadcaster is doing your job just until Thursday.

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    • G says:

      The BBC are too dim to realise that broadcasting their attempted ‘hit’ earlier on the Brexit Party funding (Toady after 0730) simply will not wash with whatever listeners they have left. The upshot of that report is only that, The Brexit Party complies with the law and the, “several hours” spent with the Party by the Electoral Commission did not result in the suspension of their operation.
      Well, BBC, using your terminology, The Brexit Party should now make it public that: “We think we’ve got it about right”. And so say all of us!

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      • Fedup2 says:

        The mail on line shows the Queue to get into Olympia in London last night for the final Brexit Party rally – 3000 present and over 30000 on the live stream .

        This is ignored by the BBC . Bias by omission . I was thinking of the blanket coverage such a turn out would get if it was something of which the BBC approves – they’d have a ‘ newsnight ‘ special or the 7pm show doing an amusing broadcast with screaming amusing people bouncing about for the camera.

        But nothing – not a whisper . It seems the BBC had realised what is about to come and decided to ignore the various campaigns – particularly the Chooka show which seems about as popular as a ‘Jamie ‘ restaurant .

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        • G says:

          Fed,
          “…they’d have a ‘ newsnight ‘ special or the 7pm show doing an amusing broadcast with screaming amusing people bouncing about for the camera.”
          Not forgetting the camera panning around the audience to seek the isolated black or asian face……….

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  27. Not Gwent says:

    As a general observation I don’t see much enthusiasm for MV4 on State Broadcaster’s pages.

    I wonder out loud if this is the end of dancing ‘in the middle of the road’? Try to please both Conservative and Labour MPs and May’s world turns to excrement. Consensus politics anyone?

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  28. Newkid says:

    Im betting that as we speak the MSM are desparately trying to get “foreign” donations through the net at the brexit party so that come sunday, when the brexit party landslide is announced they can come out the woodwork claiming dirty money is funding the brexit party and use it as a way to discredit the result.
    You heard it here first

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  29. Thoughtful says:

    Theresa May is an Entryist Marxist, not some screaming citizen Smith revolutionary type, but one who has quietly got on with the destruction of an old once right of centre British political party in a way where it might never be able to recover.

    There are utter spinless fools amongst the MPs in this party, and I’m sure in constituencies where they were not elected as well. Despite an obvious and clear threat in Theresa May they were incapable of seeing what she is, and unwilling to take any action to remove her.

    So now in ne great last act of destruction she delivers what might just be the final coup de grace before she leaves, and still the loons can’t see what is going on.

    To some people, if it says baked beans on the tin, and it contains pears, it is a tin of baked beans because the label says so.

    The only way I can see the Tory party recovering from this is if the method of candidate selection is radically overhauled, and someone with a modicum of sense appointed to oversee it. Someone with a decent knowledge of what conservatism is – and that doesn’t mean a member of the rotten schools alumni who would select on the basis of the old school tie.

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    • Eddy Booth says:

      I do hope the conservatives become history, as their ‘austerity’ policies show they only care for the well off.
      But I’m not so sure they will , they just won most seats in the council elections.

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      • Thoughtful says:

        Auterity policies ? What austerity policies? She’s spending at such a rate of knots there won’t be anything left for Corbyn to squander if he does become PM.
        Government borrowing was £24.7 Bn for the previous financial year, but the year before it was £41.9 Bn That is an unsustainable amount going forward. It also puts into some context the huge amount lady bountiful offered the EU without any concession what so ever.

        Globalism means that the rich can now simply up sticks and move to another country, and many are making plans to do so whouls Corbyn be elected.
        The trick is to maximise the tax take from the rich, and not to simply punish them for beng successful.

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        • Eddy Booth says:

          Yes spending on the well off after siphoning if from the poor
          What austerity policies?
          these kind:

          merlin_138477132_bb8cec00-f5dc-48ec-85d3-bf826544cdf3-jumbo.jpg?quality=90&auto=webp

          https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/24/world/europe/britain-austerity-may-budget.html

          Corbyn ?
          how about a benevolent dictator on a tank sorting the mess out

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          • Thoughtful says:

            Ah yes the good old foodbanks, odd how hideously white the customers of those places are isn’t it?

            Some of the customers there are because of the civil service incompetence taking weeks to process a claim or a switch over. They are largely run by Trussel Trust which has links to the Labour party and they even began under Gordon Browns high spending government.

            https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2015/04/was-food-poverty-actually-higher-under-the-last-labour-government/

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            • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

              Isn’t it strange that if you give away free food people will come for it and the more places that give away free food the more people turn up.

              Is it any wonder that food bank use is increasing.

              If you opened a shop to hand out free money my guess is that lots of people would use it. Open more free money shops and more people would turn up.

              Is the basic income (plus the other benefits) so low that people are starving. What is the minimum income.
              Pensioners get £6,000. Is that too low.
              Nurses, who we are told are having to use food banks, get a starting pay of over £23,000 and more in London.

              So what’s the truth about food banks.
              Is Britain starving or is giving away free food proving popular.
              I appreciate some people hit hard times and rightly need temporary help but increasing use of food banks is being used as a political weapon and I don’t think it’s a true picture of what is happening.
              Maybe some of you can show reasons to support the ever expanding food giveaway as I admit I only see what’s going on via the media and labour’s persistent mentioning of ever increasing food bank use.

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          • vesnadog says:

            Eddy,

            Some ones got to say it I suppose; every woman in that photo appears to be rather – erm, Big, don’t ya think?

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            • BRISSLES says:

              On the other side of the coin, there are rarely any white people (large or small) at the front of the queue when the Sales are on. Its generally BAME of every persuasion who scramble over everyone when the doors are opened.

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              • Eddy Booth says:

                just pointing out while our population has someonne slightly poorer than themselves to hate on , and someone to look up ,to the Tory party are here to stay, however much they mess up brexit etc..
                john_cleese_ronnie_barker_and_ronnie_corbett_class_sketch.jpg

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    • JimS says:

      I think we have a politcal vacuum when it comes to conservative ideas. Dr Jordan Peterson has shown that there is a great demand around the world to bring back these ideas, such as taking personal responsibility.

      We have been ‘progressively’ losing our ‘positive’ rights, (I am free to do this and you can’t stop me), in favour of ‘negative’ rights, (I am entitled to this and you must give it to me). Positive rights control the power of the state, negative rights empower the state and enslave the people.

      Is some of this the result of feminising society? (There are some very good ‘conservative’ women speakers so I’m not saying women aren’t ‘conservative’). As Peterson has said, men know that there are limits in an argument beyond which you will get thumped, but a ‘gentleman’ assumes that a woman is a ‘lady’, a mother, and due respect. Politicians like Jess Phillips will play that card and then proudly ‘put the boot in’, declaring that they are ‘powerful’ and no lady. Would Mrs May have lasted five minutes if she had been a man? I doubt it. The result is that soft compromises are made and not challenged, rather than making tough decisions, especially taking responsibility for one’s actions.

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      • vesnadog says:

        Jim,

        Having looked again at the Tory Cabinet chums – every male comes over as rather weak. Too scared to raise their voice in protest at anything which offends the Trotsky left MPs opposite them.

        Effeminates usually give into loud orders – even quite suggestions from their Boss will usually make them go to the corner of the room..

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  30. Beltane says:

    Classic BBC/ITV comparison.
    Breakfast: Startled Rabbit Starmer listened to uninterrupted by attentive sofa duo, painfully impressed by statesmanlike performance. Nothing so rude or contentious as a leading or even pertinent question, allowed total freedom to project bias, condescension and hubris for minutes.
    GMB: Fat, arrogant Thornberry disconcerted by highly pertinent, relevant and incisive questions on Brexit, Trump, Corbyn and nuclear deterrent.
    The Worlds Most Respected Broadcaster (£150+pa) v The Cheap and Cheerful, ad. funded peoples’ preferred choice. No contest.

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  31. Fedup2 says:

    Radio 4 schedule 22 5 19

    0900 Indian TV
    0930 Tourette’s Robinson chats with leftyMP Stella
    Creasy ( white men are bad )
    0946. Testosterone
    1000 Wimmin Hour
    1055 listening Project – 2 lefty wimmin
    1100 my name is Tommy – excluded yob talks ( not about TR)
    1130 Suggs and London . Lefty luvvie
    1204 dolls
    1215 you and your – get benefits
    1300 lady Brooke does her news
    1345 gyroscope s
    1400 ambridge – green propaganda
    1415 play about Hungary
    1500 money – crowd funding – left economics
    1530 mental stuff
    1600 thinking aloud lefty chats to lefty
    1630 media – bbc is great isn’t it ?
    1700 PM – nice anti brexit stuff
    1830 comedy ?
    1900 ambridge again
    1915 front row – smug lefties chat
    2000 is individualism a virtue ? ( got to be joking right ?)
    2045 labour luvvy mp Stella Creasy again
    2100 Indian green propaganda
    2200 news ? Give up ?

    So is the BBC biased ? The evidence is above .

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  32. MartinW says:

    How sad! O.N. Wilson didn’t come across at all well in his discussion with Jacob Rees-Mogg on the Today programme, and damaged what reputation he might have had for objectivity. When the encounter was first announced as ‘a discussion between JRM and another historian’, I thought it might have been the notorious A.C. Grayling, but Wilson turned out to be of the same cloth.

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Martin – I usually have some regard for AN Wilson (but ONLY some; he can be a bit of a pinko).
      In this instance I can’t help the feeling that he thought to himself: I’m on the bbc; the bbc don’t like Rees-Mogg; I’m going to have to prove myself worthy of our public, impartial broadcaster, by giving this Mogg chapee a little chop to the jugular…
      That way they’ll have me on again soon, and i could do with some exposure.
      Or is that a little unfair?

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  33. Rich says:

    Two Romanian men, 39 and 45, attempted to abduct two local teenage girls, 13 and 14, on Sunday afternoon in my home town. They directed sexually explicit language at the girls as they walked along a residential street, harassing them in broad daylight from their untaxed and uninsured car. They then tried to get them into the car but were stopped from doing so by some alert locals. Luckily for the men the PSNI responded, probably aware that the Romanians were in an area with an increasingly intolerant local community and a strong Loyalist paramilitary presence.

    According to Facebook this is one of three similar incidents, all involving Romanian nationals, that occurred locally over the weekend. One of these was the sexual assault of a local woman, grocery shopping accompanied by her 9 year old daughter who was aggressively pushed out of the way, as one of a group of Roma men rubbed himself against her mother in a crowded supermarket. The “Concerned Residents” Facebook page, that was set up a couple of years ago to highlight increasing levels of anti-social and criminal behaviour by an influx of foreign nationals especially Roma, voiced the call from a UKIP representative as he asked for the local community to fill the void left by a poorly resourced police service and for hundreds of local men to engage in, as he phrased it, a renewed “Neighbourhood watch”. Britain First also have a vocal presence in this traditionally working-class and Unionist area. I think there may be trouble ahead.

    The unsuccessful sexual predators have been charged with attempted abduction and been refused bail for their own safety, having been named and shamed by local radio, local newspapers including the Belfast Telegraph, and by the local ITV News.

    The bBC? Nothing.

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    • pugnazious says:

      They’re not Romanian..they distort and misrepresent Romanianism and real Romanians are the real victims of this sort of crime.

         24 likes

      • Ian Rushlow says:

        Generally correct. In the way that the media use ‘Asian’ when they really mean Muslims of Pakistani background, the media routinely uses ‘Romanian’ or even ‘East European’ when they are talking about Roma. This is not by accident: it is a matter of policy to hide the origins of some criminals and which, intentionally or unintentionally, besmirches Romanians and other Slavic, Balkan and Baltic people in the same way that the term ‘Asian’ besmirches Chinese, Koreans, Japanese, Indians and so on. The term ‘Roma’ is generally only used when it comes to victimisation and discrimination, both real and perceived.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        pug, I agree although I also get the other point you appear to be making. Romanians are no worse, generally speaking, than any other nation.

        But what is really bad here is that the BBC appear to be deliberately overlooking crime, and news of crimes, in deference to nationality and/or skin colour.

        That is morally indefensible.

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        • Rich says:

          Pugz, I know what you mean, but….

          They are Romanian. Perhaps they are Roma, but maybe “white” Romanians need to do more to highlight this and to disassociate themselves from the Roma, we both know there is a difference, as they have no problem maintaining this separation in their homeland.

          The only reason that we know that these men were Romanian at all is that a local radio presenter inadvertently identified them as such in a news bulletin, an apparently unforgivable error as almost apologetically pointed out on a local website. When their names are given it is obvious, but their ethnicity is not as no pictures have been shown, they are simply “Romanian”.

          The point I’m making is as Up2 says. We are treated as imbeciles by the bBC, what little information we are allowed is kept as vague and as unspecified as possible, lacking in detail or context, so that we do not jump to the “wrong” conclusion, especially when ethnicity or culture is relevant. They still sincerely believe that the great unwashed are too stupid and disinterested to notice things for themselves and that they, the bBC, are the only show in town. In reality of course, as Ian points out, this type or lack of journalistic integrity actually only leads to, in this instance, all Romanians being tarred with the same brush, and possibly then all Eastern Europeans being thought of in this way, Romanian or not.

             13 likes

          • Kaiser says:

            “Perhaps they are Roma, but maybe “white” Romanians need to do more to highlight this and to disassociate themselves from the Roma”

            they do , they cant believe we let them all in

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          • Despairada says:

            I’ve had non Roma Romanians as neighbours, twice in fact, and they were lovely.

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    • G says:

      Rich,
      “…. a poorly resourced police service…”. Its that expression again. Surely, it has more to do with the police even wanting to get involved in the first instance? That is the experience in England.

         13 likes

      • Rich says:

        G,

        They’re far too politicised and pandering to be of any practical use here any more either.

        Much like the NHS, “poorly resourced” translates as “badly managed”.

           11 likes

    • Thatcherrevolutionary says:

      It’s OK – Maxicnut will be along shortly to explain how you have it all wrong.

         15 likes

    • G says:

      Rich,
      I do miss the Crimewatch mugshots on the programme website. It was only there, unwittingly, our “Most Trusted….” posted names and photos of the ‘most wanted’. Boy, that was more accurate than any reporting. It identified the foreign nationals and ‘foreign’ British nationals that were predominately carrying out the serious crimes.

         7 likes

    • Banania says:

      Any chance that they will be deported?

         2 likes

  34. pugnazious says:

    Gotta love the hypocrisy and lies.

    The BBC is very, very concerned about the intimidation and violence towards politicians and runs endless stories about it, naturally all ending in ‘‘remember Jo Cox’, and today is no different…they are running stories about the violence and threats towards Tommy Robinson and Nigel Farage and how this is a shocking threat to democracy, something that must be stamped on before someone gets killed….Remember Jo Cox!

    Er…actually no…what we have is a report that pretty much praises the attackers and idolises them as ‘resistors’ trying humiliate pompous or dangerous people. Of course the film ends with a politician who they say deals splendidly with the situation and shows what a good egg he is…Ed Miliband…..

    Politicians and the perils of projectiles

    How different with another film they produce today showing David Davies MP being ‘attacked’….his reaction is extraordinary, and pathetic, especially in light of his tweet above from two days ago….and let’s be clear…the woman made absolutely no threats despite the BBC headline conflating her comments and ‘threats’…

    Monmouth MP called a liar amid rise in threats

    The BBC make a fuss about a Leave voter’s comments which the BBC presents as an ‘attack’ on an MP but oddly make no comment whatsoever about a senior employee at a charity, since sacked, who said she would prefer it if attackers used acid instead of milkshakes when dousing the likes of Nigel Farage….she has also said she would like rich people to be killed…..it’s in many newspapers and came from Guido originally….

    Ruth-Townsley.jpg?resize=540%2C327&ssl=1

    ‘“Bravo to Paul Crowther, good on you mate. Great that milkshakes have become a thing when it comes to racists in our midst. I’d prefer acid but milkshakes will do for now I guess.”’

    So the BBC thinks it’s fine to attack anyone who supports Brexit, the real Brexit, but anyone else is ‘Jo Cox’ territory.

    A very slippery slope for the BBC as it praises those who attack those it doesn’t like.

    Of course the BBC also ignores those on the Remain side who openly state they want older people to die quickly, for instance hoping for a really cold winter to kill them off, so that we can have a second vote and the freshly minted young voters can swing it back to Remain.

    When I say ignore I actually mean fully endorse the narrative that hopes old leave voters will die……

       32 likes

    • Ian Rushlow says:

      I await a BBC spokesperson stating that milk which is anything other than totally fresh contains a small quantity of lactic acid and that therefore Ms Townsley’s comments have been taken totally out of context.

         19 likes

    • Vonbedda says:

      Who’s confident that we the British people we get a NO Deal Brexit.?
      can we embed polls into the site?

         16 likes

    • G says:

      Pug,
      How can you condemn our far left cultural Marxist State Broadcaster for following the ‘Smartie’ trail to The Brexit Party’s front door? After all, our State Broadcaster confessed to receiving 3 million Euro’s from the EU on a FoI Request but that was trasformed into 4.3 million on the EU’s admission. “….which is considerably more than the £3 million which the BBC claims it received in the 32 months which included the whole of 2012. There seems to be something of a mismatch, which needs explaining.”
      http://www.eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=84760
      But who will be challenging our, “Worlds Most Trusted Broadcaster” to explain in detail that anomaly and money received since?

         26 likes

    • vlad says:

      Is he stirring up hatred of oldies? Boo, hate crime, lock him up!

         14 likes

    • TrueToo says:

      pugnazious,

      I see from the blurb on YouTube under the Aaronovitch clip that Viewsnight is BBC Newsnight’s place for ideas and opinion.

      Could that be why the ‘Viewsnight’ logo resembles a woman’s breasts? And is this part of the BBC’s overboard insistence on women power in every aspect of society?

         9 likes

    • Not Gwent says:

      “A very slippery slope for the BBC as it praises those who attack those it doesn’t like.”

      It’s a bit late to expect impartiality. That ship sailed already.

      As ever; subscription media can say what they like. I’m bothered by the tax funding of a political party in all but name. Just because it fields no candidates doesn’t mean it doesn’t do politics.

         6 likes

  35. vesnadog says:

    I know its not BBC but ITV TV adds are simply pushing the agenda of white/black relationships so much these days so when I saw this TV add I simply could not hold my disgust. See how many of the front row couples (some with mixed race kids whose colour proves that mom must be white and father black) you can spot:

    ufoxywT.jpg

    Notice how the black males are leaning/touching their white partners. The full TV add makes it quite clear whose with who.

    Oh, the huge knife in the big black guys hand and of another woman was to cut the tape in front of them.

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  36. Cassandra says:

    “The fascists of the future will be called anti-fascists”

    No one is really sure who was responsible for this quote but for me it accurately sums up the people who are against Brexit, Farage and Robinson etc. It would include organisations like the BBC with its biased leftwing agenda, Antifa and individuals like George Soros.

    As for The Electoral Commission investigating how The Brexit Party is funded, then I think this contributor to Guido sums up the case well:

    “The electoral commission are corrupt. Simple as that. When bodies that are supposed to be impartial, such as the electoral commission, the BBC, Channel 4 and other TV, radio and newspaper outlets are biased and corrupt then democracy has no chance.
    The Tory party could have dealt with this but they have not as they thrive on the status quo as they get to dip their beaks in the trough too.
    Farage needs to be PM and the Brexit party need to wipe the legacy parties out.”

    As usual, Pat Condell hits the nail on the head:
    “I don’t care if Farage is funded by Russia, the mob, or Satan on stilts. I’m still voting for him on Thursday.”

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  37. StewGreen says:

    Wonder why this article about FakeNews got deleted
    and can only be found on internet archive
    or the anti-Trump book it was in

    Journalism versus lies and fake news: Time for a rethink
    Journalist and broadcaster Phil Harding suggests some of the steps that should be taken
    Posted: 21 July 2017
    https://web.archive.org/web/20170721202611/https://www.journalism.co.uk/news-commentary/journalism-versus-lies-and-fake-news-time-for-a-rethink/s6/a707495/

    I’m guessing it’s cos it has FakeNews in it itself

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  38. vlad says:

    Al beeb post a very ‘discreet’ tribute to the Manchester arena muslim massacre, almost invisible on their Home page, and of course never mention the religion behind the attack. It’s just ‘a bombing’, could be the Mormons for all we know.
    It was of course a muslim, doing what the religion of war and violence tells him to do, namely to wage ceaseless war against the infidel until islam is established all over the world.

    “Slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush…”

    And boy are they doing just that:

    https://thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx

    Ramadan-Bombathon-2019.jpg

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  39. StewGreen says:

    @Mark Hodgson, writes: It appears RT have that story correctly
    Charity worker provokes outrage with Farage attack tweet
    ‘I'd prefer ACID but milkshakes will do’

    Also : Bristol Post

    I can't find it on the BBC website, not even having drilled down to the Bristol section of their site. I accept that in many ways it's a trivial story, and not especially newsworthy, but it's interesting to see how the BBC views the world.

    I imagine, had this been a tweet from a "far right" person in the event of a similar acid attack on a left-wing politician, it would have been reported by the BBC promptly and prominently.

    That last point is pure speculation, I accept, but what we do know is that the BBC deems that story not to be newsworthy while regarding the following stories from the Bristol area to be sufficiently newsworthy to be reported:

    Drunk Avon and Somerset officer groped two women

    Body image photos to promote mental health week

    The Gay Bikers Motorcycle Club members' stories

    I appreciate that any news editor has to make difficult decisions about which stories to include and which to omit.
    Unfortunately the BBC news editors will
    – ALWAYS include some stories on a repetitious basis
    …  while always ignoring stories of other types.

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    • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

      Stew,
      I reckon we all know this remark was just a joke.
      I think the difference is that when we on the right make a joke such as the Jess Phillips one, the MSM go overboard and every interview with UKIP is taken over by an interviewer who wants to look incredulous that such a terrible thing was ever uttered.
      Extreme virtue signalling for interviewers.
      We all know the left doesn’t do humour (ok, they slag off Trump, Farage and Brexit although it’s not funny, just infantile)

         27 likes

    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Charity worker? BS. Would like to throw acid? Incitement to violence , involving severe injury and possibly worse?
      Lock her up!

         35 likes

      • Wild Bill says:

        Hate crime isn’t it, anyone else would be locked up, why not her, she has also Tweeted that rich people should be killed!?

           33 likes

      • Scroblene says:

        Cheridee ‘worker’ means our spare cash goes elsewhere.

        Simples.

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  40. Beltane says:

    Such a shame that British Steel goes bust one day before the EU elections. At least it gives the chance for every comment from every commentator, whether political or industrial, to make it clear that the insolvency is due to Brexit. You might almost think its been orchestrated.
    Nothing to do with the fact that China made more steel last year than the UK industry has done in all its history, the Indians aren’t far behind and there’s more steel available worldwide than all industries combined can use.
    No. Obviously it has to be Brexit.

       43 likes

    • BigBrotherCorporation says:

      British Steel has been struggling for decades, and has never been able to compete on price with Chinese/Indian steel, even given the price of shipping it half way around the world (cheaper workers, cheaper coal, no green taxes, government subsidies…).

      I had an interview with them for the milk round in the early 90s, and was offered a place with them at Port Talbot, but turned it down because my father and uncle persuaded me there was no future in the British steel industry (how right they were).

      Brexit my arse! The EU hammered the last nail in the coffin with their crippling ‘green taxes’, if it the industry had been worth anything they would have relocated it to Slovenia by now anyway… funny how the BBC never discusses the 100,000s of manufacturing/industrial jobs lost to Eastern Europe over the last 30 years, isn’t it?

         38 likes

    • Despairada says:

      Also, they didn’t mention (at least not on Radio 4 news) that it is EU rules that prevent the Government from helping out.

         28 likes

    • conanthelibrarian says:

      Yes, Beltane ,the amount of diversionary news just before the Euro-election is truly staggering.
      One might almost have thought that someone in Govt. had a word with British Steel and/or their accountants to rush out the announcement now-lots of luvverly coded warnings to the sheeple from those Northern constituencies about the futility of voting against the globalist elite and the LibLabCon!

         14 likes

    • Scroblene says:

      The Bloomberg rep on R5 dead mentioned the magic distaste ‘because of uncertainty with Brexit’, about twenty times, last night.

      Silly bitch is fave of the month to make the sodding programme seem sensible!

      Borrocks as usual.

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  41. digg says:

    So…. the UN has declared the AI devices such as Alexa are sexist because they have female voices!!!

    Surely they would come to the same conclusion and possibly even more so if they only used male voices..

    Maybe they should recommend using only gerbil voices, oops sorry that would infuriate the vegans and RSPCA.

    It just keeps on getting madder and madder, maybe I will wake from this nightmare soon….

    Was that a Hare wearing a pocket watch I just saw? … and who is the guy with the top hat over there… and whats the Queen doing here? and get that animal out of that teapot!

       33 likes

    • pugnazious says:

      Same must apply to BBC then…all those female voices at our service….make it all male voices for a more equal society!

         18 likes

  42. Terminal Moraine says:

    Dutch asylum minister Mark Harbers has resigned after he hid the number of ‘refugees’ suspected of serious crimes from a crime report.

    —”Harbers failed to include a category called ‘other’ in the report on crimes committed by asylum seekers, which included 79 sexual offenses, 51 aggravated assaults, and 31 suspicions of murder and manslaughter.”

    Seems to be reported by Reuters and the Daily Mail, but a day before the EU elections not a single other UK news outlet believes it worth mentioning. Still, Taiwan News is all over it.

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  43. Thoughtful says:

    Interesting that British Steel has fallen into receivership and 25,000 workers now face losing their jobs, and it has been impossible for the BBC to avoid reporting the truth that the government cannot even give the company a guaranteed loan because of EU legislation.

    IF Toxic Tess had got us out of Europe she would have been able to offer this money, save the jobs and leave Britain with a working steel industry, but the elites who refused every chance of doing so have now added at lease another 25K votes for the Brexit party.

    Just when you think Toxic Tess couldn’t do anymore damage to the Tories she announces this a day before the EU elections !

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  44. sjs says:

    The hatchet job on Margaret Thatcher continues tonight on BBC2 in A very British Revolution.But why hasn’t the BBC commissioned at documentary on the second anniversary of the Islam attack at the Manchester Arena. At PM questions time all the virtue signalling MPs said their hearts when out to the victims and families, but the cowards would not mention who had carried out the attack.

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  45. pugnazious says:

    Matthew Goodwin, a remainer himself, castigates the Remain/lefties for their failure to understand what is going on….instead relying on dismissing leave voters as ignorant/stupid/racist, appeals to economic self-interest [as they see it] and hopes that leave voters will die off…and that history will turn the liberals’ [extremist liberals…more like Fascists everyday liberals…vote leave? How about some acid in the face then?] way eventually….

    https://unherd.com/2019/05/how-farage-outflanked-everyone/

    ‘If politics is reduced to a waiting game, a conveyor belt, waiting for the old white people to die, then you do not need to engage with the grievances that are driving these movements forward.

    The second miscalculation, rooted in questionable Marxist assumptions about what makes people tick, is that all of this awkward populism stuff can be squashed through transactional appeals to people’s economic interests. The evidence for this claim is similarly weak and it is undermined by the reality of everyday life. People do not die for GDP.’

    Goodwin also points out the obvious…the so very obvious that the BBC thinks it doesn’t need saying, or rather completely ignores it as it is so very not the narrative they want to promote and hence fail to win the argument on Brexit as they stick to talking about economics and GDP as the be-all and end-all of Brexit when Brexit had little to do with those things…..

    ‘Anybody who has spent time within this milieu knows that Farage’s followers are neither fascists nor aimless protestors.

    Most of them, as we know from several studies, share a cluster of intensely-held concerns; they care deeply about a loss of national sovereignty, the clear lack of control over immigration, a political system that no longer looks or feels responsive to citizens and a wider dismissal of the one thing that they cherish more than anything else: the national community.’

    And the other thing the BBC really doesn’t want to note…the fact that it is Remain extremists who have landed us in the mess we are in now…the BBC prefers to blame ‘hardline, extremist, ultra Brexiteers’….even now the BBC doesn’t mention that Labour said it would block any deal whatever it said because they wanted to force a general election…

    ‘The failure of their elected representatives to deliver a meaningful Brexit marks not just a failure of governance but a failure to uphold and respect something that is fundamentally central to our national character.

    This failure was perhaps always inevitable. One of the realities of post-referendum Britain is that the corridors of power are in the hands of losers who were used to feeling like winners. But the longer those who lost the 2016 referendum fudge, stall, conspire, delay or block, the stronger Farage becomes. There are few things that the Brits like less than sore losers; there is little they value more than playing by the rules.’

    Goodwin’s final comment…you can only hope it comes true….

    ‘What happens this weekend will underline how Farage was always closer to the median voter than the social and economic liberals who dream of a British Macron are willing to accept. His time is now while theirs is yet to arrive. While the Brexit Party will soar, Change UK will tank. A revitalised Leave electorate will once again feel triumphant while a divided Remain camp will be forced to regroup, re-think and stare at an awkward question: how on earth has Nigel Farage outflanked them once again?’

    However…Nige did not ‘outflank’ the Remain fanatics, they screwed it up all by themselves, firstly, lying outright to the voters telling them they would carry out their wishes, and second, by utterly and completely refusing to do so, abusing the democratic process in order to overturn that democratic process and in effect mount a coup against government and the nation. They kept on pretending to be prepared to accept the vote right up until the last moment and then, when it would cause the most chaos and damage and would inevitably delay Brexit, they changed tack and started to do all they could to put a spanner in the works.

    It helped of course having one of the most stupid PMs we have ever had in charge….and a Remainer to boot. She’s messed it up for both sides with her less-than-machiavellian plotting and the lasting result of which will be incredibly damaging to our national interests putting us at the mercy of the EU.

    Amazing what the BBC chooses to see and what not to see.

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    • Not Gwent says:

      “the most stupid PMs we have ever had in charge….and a Remainer”

      I know I’m a stuck record – the trap was set in 2017 and the electorate fell in voting into office/opposition the two biggest remainer parties of 2016. Even the PM calling the poll had openly campaigned for remain. What on Earth did we think would happen to ‘leaving’ the EU by electing these two?

      Still if Corbyn has his way we’ll have another chance soon.

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  46. Beltane says:

    Did you know some blonde Swedish girl is Woman Footballer of the Year? You didn’t?

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    • The WestWyvern says:

      Bel, I did…

      Al Beeb Sports homepage on the webshite today.

      Item 1
      ‘One day the men in suits will understand’ – BBC award winner on equality.

      Item 2
      ‘Social media boycott & T-Shirts not enough to combat racism’ – Sterling.

      Item 3
      From war to Wimbledon, how Belgrade bombing shaped Djokovic.

      So there we go, equality, Issues of race, war. Funny I only wanted to see the Cricket scores. Instead got a load of virtue signalling agenda pushing bullshit instead.

      Sorry for the bad language, but I really have had enough of them and poxy agendas.

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      • Beltane says:

        Nothing very bad about the language – bullshit – except perhaps the innate sexism present in the choice of male fecal matter as opposed to that same substance as produced – and thought by some to be superior in consistency and fertility – by females. This not only places undue emphasis on a by-product created and excreted in equal quantities by both male and female, it tends to suggest a superiority which is patently unearned and unmerited.
        Some sources have suggested the term would be better used as the descriptive: ‘cowshit’ although the juxtaposition of ‘cow’ with fecal waste might be construed as unfairly critical, comparisons with cow in a perjorative sense being outlawed under UN resolution 335/4/2017.
        Further information may be gained from: BBC/Sexism/Info/Usage.com

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        • BRISSLES says:

          I think there is something called the womens football world cup on in the next few weeks. I wont be watching, but even more so when the promo being advertised is accompanied by bloody rap music !

          This rap noise is becoming more prevalent in advertising, and yes its a black noise so I see the connection and get that media types love it, but blacks also gave us jazz, R & B, soul, motown which are infinitely more easy on the ear, – but rap is unintelligible, tuneless and had its roots in gun culture which is hard to promote, so why are we being assailed with it now ?

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          • JimS says:

            Some words have a silent letter, written but not pronounced. ‘Rap’ has a missing letter, pronounced but not written.

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  47. StewGreen says:

    The London-media-circus parked outside Scunthorpe Steelworks entrance
    They could drive to Drax pseudo-green Power Station
    & film the £789m/year SUBSIDY money being burnt with US WOOD in the biomass boilers
    All approved by EU & Tories/Labour
    #Brexit #BrexitBetrayal
    In fact if they walk 500m north they could film the Drax Subsidy trains actually passing under the bridge
    en route from Immingham.
    Bet you they don’t
    #BiasByOmission #NobleCauseFallacy

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    • Fedup2 says:

      I’m guessing that if the state wanted to bail out British steel it couldn’t because we are still in the ReichEU .
      A brexit Government would say this loudly but since the traitors all want to remain they stay silent – particularly with voting tomorrow .

      And of course the BBC won’t say anything .

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    • Terminal Moraine says:

      Kaiser, interesting article thanks… shocking but not surprising

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  48. brexiteerkent says:

    Hello ! I`ve been lurking here for a couple of years but this is my first post.
    I hope i`ve not missed it but i can`t see that anyone has commented on this :
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48027580
    on the bbc website

    I was so incensed I thought I would break cover !
    ” European elections 2019: Where the parties stand on Brexit”

    A list of all the parties in the election one might want to vote for. Top of the list, ” change uk”, then all the other parties, even snp, plaid cymru .. down and down the page..and guess which two parties are right at the very bottom.

    Alphabetical order? order of places in the polls?? Hmmm

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    • Kaiser says:

      welcome brexiteerkent

      thats nearly as good as some website I saw the other days where they spread them across 4 pages and guess who was on page 4

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Yes welcome brex
        As you will be aware the site is primarily about BBC bias – but since it is so anti brexit we seem at the moment to be expending a lot of energy witnessing their bias – along with our sister sites .

        I hope you enjoy the occasional troll when they pop up and then run away ….

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    • vesnadog says:

      Brexit,

      Hi.

      No doubt the BBC and her nasty little reporters would hope that all the oldies – who are still alive – and who voted joyfully to leave the EU would have fallen asleep by the time they reached halfway down the page.

      Nasty little minds simply cannot restrain themselves when our loyal, elderly citizens are involved.

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    • Vonbedda says:

      Welcome Brexiterkent – I’m relatively new – started posting about a month ago – all here are very welcoming – enjoy my friend.

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  49. StewGreen says:

    May 14th ‘The next #Nazanin’ – British Council employee is arrested in Iran and sentenced to 10 years for spying.
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/politics/next-nazanin-british-council-employee-arrested-iran-sentenced/

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