Midweek Open Thread 10 July 2019

So , Ladies Gentlemen and confused .. Thursday marks the sentencing of a journalist after a politically motivated trial in Britain . The BBC will cover it and fight for ‘press freedom ‘ right? Or maybe it’s the kind of ‘press freedom ‘ of which they do not approve . The British State will also want to send a signal to less courageous folk about the cost of challenging what it has allowed to happen – and which is continuing to happen to children in bits of Britain politicians and journalists seldom think of yet alone visit .

I would never recommend a BBC programme – but Wednesday night sees the broadcast of a report on anti semitism in the Labour Party ….

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567 Responses to Midweek Open Thread 10 July 2019

  1. Beltane says:

    Good to see that London’s mayor Sadiq Khan has thrown his weight behind the condemnation of anti-Semitism within the Labour party.
    He also believes that irony is an over-rated ‘western’ concept.
    It should be noted that none of the newspaper reviews on BBC text pages mention the Panorama programme – which is odd since it ended at 10pm, well within normal Fleet St. deadlines. Still, maybe not so important, after all.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Beltane – I thought he’d be busy with the latest stabbing murder in London on Wednesday – the ‘rate ‘ seems to be up to one every day
      I was trying to keep count for academic reasons but I’ve lost the number – I think total murders in the greatest capital in the world is 75 .

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    • G says:

      Belthane,
      “London’s mayor Sadiq Khan has thrown his weight behind the condemnation of anti-Semitism within the Labour party.” I wonder how his co-cultists will feel about that in his local mosque. Did I ever tell you that when I lived/worked in Saudi, I purchased a Bartholomew’s Atlas from a local book store. The cellophane outer wrapper was opened on every copy on the shelf. When I got it home I realised that each package had been opened and in every copy, a black marker pen had been used to erase any reference to Israel. Including the index in the back. The hatred is endemic.

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    • Will Jones says:

      Beltane,
      Mayor Khans co cultists will be the first to understand Taqqiya when they hear it, unlike say the BBC.

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  2. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #4 – Prime Interview Slot

    Slimmed-down Tom Watson fills the space for a long interview on anti-Semtism in the Labour Party. I’m surprised that at the end JustRemainIn Webb doesn’t ask about Ambassador Kim Ill-Gone and Boris Johnson.

    You know, extract maximum mileage from it …. go green and everything.

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  3. Thoughtful says:

    Very interesting this morning listening to Radio 4 and the hand wring gentle interviews over the massive anti Semitism in the BBC favourite party which it apparantly exposed last night.

    Now let us not imagine this is some charitable move by the BBC towards impartiality – which some will no doubt argue, nor should it be taken as an attack on the party either.

    Labour is a Fascist party, if you doubt that ask yourself why it is that despite all the history of that ideology you almost certainly cannot name a single policy from that original manifesto. Here’s a clue however, just take a look at the Labour manifesto and you’ll soon get the idea, because it’s a virtual mirror image.

    Hitler was fascinated by Islam and so is Corbyn and other Labour Fascists, yet the BBC dances very carefully around the issue that very many of the names quoted on their program are Islamic names. But put on the blinkers, ignore the obvious, and definitely don’t talk about the issues with the brown eyed boys.

    The BBC has ulterior motives though, and that is the disproportionate number of left wing Jews who work for the corporation. Many times I’ve spoken of self destructive Jews who enthusiastically call for policies which will inevitably lead to their own destruction, and then when they find it cry out ‘why is this happening’?

    But don’t take my word for it, I can present an expert witness a man born in Germany in the 1920s to a father he describes as a Nazi sympathiser, witnessed the rise of the Nazi party, and its defeat, he went on to become a founding member of the Frankfurt school of Marxism, he today resides in the USA where he is regarded as one of the worlds top ten Left wing ‘thinkers’. His name is Jurgen Habermas and I will challenge anyone to produce a better expert witness. He it was who identified the rise of Fascism on the left again.

    The BBC fails to mention any of this, and fails to mention the influence of Islam in Labour. It only wants to address the symptoms, and refuses to countenance the causes.

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  4. Fedup2 says:

    Up2
    I’m wondering what the Equalities commission ? Is going to make of the Labour Party and its’ institutional racism . I’m sure it is filled with Labour supporters so will seek the advice of baroness Shabi in how to whitewash the report.

    She must be very proud of her conduct but if you are offered a life time gong with no responsibility – got to take it ….

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Fed, will not be surprised if the Equalities Commission will consider the BBC’s very unique and very uniquely funded Make-Our-Own-News Panorama Investigation will suffice.

      Our Grande Dame Shami will be able to concentrate on collecting £300 per day just for turning up without having to struggle over to W1A in a taxi.

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  5. Dover Sentry says:

    Where are there no femminazi women on scaffolding teams? They are equal, after all.

    This travesty needs to be exposed by the BBC. Perhaps a female reporter could join a team of scaffolders for a week?

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    • JimS says:

      Just lately I have become aware of a new ‘diverse’ form of scaffolding:

      a) verticals that aren’t vertical (adds a bending moment where none was there before)
      b) horizontals that aren’t horizontal (how is that possible, doesn’t the design of the shackle force a right-angle connection?
      c) no kick boards (Our gods will protect us)
      d) no verticals next to the wall (well there is a wall isn’t there?)
      e) cantilevered horizontals (well only one shackle will hold it in position, won’t it? [Yes but it needs to be TIGHT! TIGHT!)
      f) spans double the usual (perhaps they have light-weight builders?)
      g) no trusses to support spans with no verticals (Our gods will protect us)
      i) ladders at right-angle to the structure (need to step backwards)
      j) no gates at top of ladder
      k) scaffolding accessible at night (well we work Saturday’s and Sunday’s too, so why bother?)

      It can’t be long before it is bamboo poles and flip-flops, multi-cultural building practices! Similar to the ‘recycling business – PPE clad, Hiab equipped, run-off protected and registered businesses versus one-man recycled supermarket trolley chancers. The ‘rules’ are for the ‘big people’?

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Jim, it was a bit of a shock for Snuffy to encounter bamboo poles and rope used for scaffolding in 1990s Romania. Seemed to work OK.

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      • richard D says:

        Recently saw, in Hong Kong, scaffolding going up on a 15 storey building (5 apartments deep by 8 apartments wide) – bamboo poles and cable ties. Amazingly fast construction, and it was locked into the building every few floors. Waist rail but no kickboard. Inner verticals. Bamboo poles for walkways too, also using cable ties.

        To dismantle, one stanley knife with a guy on the scaffold, and a very brave guy at the bottom catching the poles as they were dropped vertically from on high (catching them before they hit the deck. Poles stacked, then quickly (parking not too plenty in the centre of Honng Kong) on back of truck, dropped cut cable ties swept up, bagged and put on top of poles on truck, and off they went to another job, or back to depot.

        One day to dismantle – two guys and a driver when called in to pick up. Fascinating to watch.

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  6. Old Goat says:

    I’m sure there will be plenty of opportunities for erstwhile scaffold erectors in the coming months…

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  7. Fedup2 says:

    Katie Hopkins is monitoring the TR political sentencing . Ezra is monitoring the police and putting up nice pictures of them dressed ready for a riot .

    Maybe the British State will have to be a bit careful as President Trump retweeted a comment made by Katie Hopkins last night ( sadly it didn’t mention TR )

    I’m guessing they’ll give him a year on top of time already served . The bubble wants him put away and dead .

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    • G.W.F. says:

      Fedup2

      If not dead, mentally destroyed.

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    • vesnadog says:

      Fed,

      BBC Five Live studio nearly completed with Balloons and Champeign – all at the Licence payers expense of course.

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  8. TrueToo says:

    I see that my esteemed colleagues have been reporting here on the ‘Defend media freedom conference’ organised by the alleged Canadian and UK governments. I say ‘alleged’ since Canada currently has a far-left virtue-signaling snowflake as PM and the UK PM pretends to be conservative while she is as much of a snowflake as her counterpart.

    Ezra Levant exposed this truly Orwellian conference in his habitually brilliant fashion and I doubt he’ll ever be allowed into similar events again.

    In one week people here on this fine site produce more informed and perceptive journalism (though not accredited as such) than the BBC and its ilk ever have or ever will.

    (Edit: OK, I’m exaggerating a little.)

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  9. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC Online News:

    “”Branson warns pound to plummet in no-deal Brexit””

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48942631

    One day, maybe one day, the BBC will do a positive feature on Brexit.
    Lord Hall did promise this to a Select Committee back in 2016 after the referendum.

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    • TrueToo says:

      Dover Sentry,

      Can you repost that useful link you posted a while back to access various news broadcasts (like Fox) live through the Internet?

      Thanks in advance.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Dover, I really should have done a TOADY Watch on that but I did not hear the full item. Too busy on other duties.

      I cannot help but wonder if thousands of UK voters who are BBC R4 listeners and who voted Remain will now be longing for Brexit to happen, and maybe a No-Deal Brexit, just to get it done and over with and to move on.

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    • The Sage says:

      Yes, this is the same tax dodging BVI resident who shouted loudly about the stock market downturn and the impact on his businesses straight after the Referendum and then said nothing when the same stock market quickly bounced back and shot through the 7,500 barrier.

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  10. TrueToo says:

    Just when I thought the brain-damaged, virtue-signaling, far-left social media establishment couldn’t possibly sink any lower, it does.

    Apparently they are OK with calling for violence against the likes of Paul Joseph Watson.

    With his customary perceptive brilliance, he has interpreted the call as, “Facebook Put a Fatwa On Me,” and adds, “I’m not even joking.”

    He isn’t.

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  11. Up2snuff says:

    Ambassador Kim Ill-Gone occupied Ritula Shah on R4 TWT last night.

    She claimed that it was unprecedented for a receiving nation to reject an Ambassador. I think she is wrong on that. New Ambassadors present their credentials and ask to be granted Ambassadorial Rights. I think it would be entirely in order for a receiving nation to say “This person is unacceptable to us.” I think the same is true while the Ambassador is in post. At anytime, a nation may ask another to withdraw their Ambassador.

    I grant that it would be unusual but seem to recall that it was not unknown, especially during the Cold War.

    Ritula also kept stating that ‘Boris Johnson is on the hook over this’ but without saying who put him there. Who helped put him there, Ritula of the BBC? Was it the BBC? Eh, BBC?

    Deafening silence.

    It was actually a lame duck, failed and caretaker PM who helped drop Ambassador Kim Ill-Gone in the do-do. Had Thersa May responded quickly instead of dithering (shades of Grenfell, shades of Brexit) and brought said Ambo home ‘for consultations’, he might still be in post until his retirement, which is due soon but the BBC have conveniently totally forgotten about that.

    I wonder why?

    But then, the BBC would not have been able to try to damage Bojo and Brexit, would they?

    I wonder who Theresa May has voted for as successor? Or has she recused herself?

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  12. G says:

    Pug,
    “What was very noticeably missing was any speculation about who might have leaked these emails…”.
    An operative of the extended arm of the Dems Deep State planted in the British Government.

       10 likes

  13. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #5 – BBC Bashing Brexit and BBC Bashing No-Deal Brexit

    It carries on apace. Another business bod brought on to the prog to spread fear and panic. Unfortunately, someone who came on BBC R4 earlier this week gave the game away, business was thoroughly and well prepared back in March.

    Even more unfortunately, I cannot remember who, and when, and which programme. The welter of new information in Snuffy’s head, received in the last few days, sits in tidy piles awaiting indexing and filing. It may come to me …… . . . .

    In the meantime, remind me, BBC, which side told lies before the EU Referendum Campaign, during the EU Referendum Campaign and after the result of the vote was known? The Leave Campaign?

    No.

    It is the current Remain Campaign, a small proportion – a minority – of the hugely decent and democratic voting and result accepting population who did vote to Remain.

       13 likes

  14. vesnadog says:

    Today, BBC five live, Nicky Campbell Show: News…..cricket, cricket, cricket, cricket, cricket and more cricket.

    Cricket was the first word I heard every flipping time I turned the radio on in the hope to avoid the BBCs cricket-propaganda of what must be the only sport she can boast as “theirs” [temporary]. But no. Something must be done to our national broadcasters financial allowances if the only sport they can get is cricket.

    You should have heard them in the studio; all excited like little children in a sweet shop. It was as if London had been awarded the Olympics again and they couldn’t share it with the rest of the country quick enough.

       14 likes

    • WildWomanOfThe Woods says:

      Last week you were all complaining about the BBC ignoring cricket for the Women’s World Cup.

      No matter. Most of us are watching Wimbledon and Le Tour de France while we wait for some proper cricket.

         6 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        Nice to have a mind reader on the site . For the record I care less about girl football, cricket or tennis . But I do care when a bloke going against the State gets banged up for 9 months for doing a public service .

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      • thehoiman says:

        You may have noticed the Women’s World Cup has since finished…

        Your point?

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    • Banania says:

      @ Vesnadog. Doesn’t sound like much of a complaint to me. All they have to do is drop Nicky Morgan and make the news a bit shorter.

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  15. BRISSLES says:

    Jeez, has the ex Ambassador to America died ??? Parliament are now discussing him, and being told ‘how tributes are pouring in for him” . He resigned, get over it, yet that shower in the House appear to be in deep mourning.

       35 likes

    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Brissels – I doubt this is all about the Ambassador. Between the lines, this is all about President Trump.

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    • imaynotalwaysloveyou says:

      Alas – let’s all raise a glass to poor dear departed Sir Kimmy. He never could get the hang of making those Ferrero Rocher choccies look nice and pyramidical on a tray.

      What’s that you say? He’s been caught out insulting the President of the most powerful country on earth!?

      Must be those damned Russians again!

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  16. Thatcherrevolutionary says:

    Hilarious to hear the BBC & Sky Views bigging up their man Hunt.
    The same hated Hunt who was hell-bent on destroying their beloved NHS.
    The same hated Hunt whose name they repeatedly mis-pronounce.

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  17. G.W.F. says:

    What is happening over the sentencing of Tommy Robinson. Crowd outside listening the Gerald Batten, Independent reports that TR left the court with a security officer 14 minutes ago. Ruptly filming the crowd outside, nothing from the state broadcaster. Katie Hopkins describing the media as ghouls.

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    • vesnadog says:

      G,

      “TR left the court with a security officer 14 minutes ago”

      Lets hope he’s better than the useless protection officers [shower] who protect (laugh) our Queen.

      You simply could not make this up.

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  18. Fedup2 says:

    The twitter feeds have dried up. I guess the judges are out for coffee .

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    • G.W.F. says:

      From the Independent.

      Robinson’s supporters are tweeting a “message from Tommy” calling for a protest outside prison on Saturday.

      ————
      Looks like he has gone to jail, but the elites are not letting people know for the time being

      But now we hear
      Still waiting. Robinson is chatting to Katie Hopkins.

      God knows what is happening. Is this how justice is to be conducted under a Moslem Home Secretary.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        TR sentenced to 6 months custody plus another 3 .

        9 total

        Dame Victoria Sharp delivered the sentence

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        • WildWomanOfThe Woods says:

          He’ll be out on the streets in three, with time already served taken into account. Free to accost random hardware engineers, curry-house proprietors and car mechanics and going in with the fists if they don’t get the answers right.

          Country’s gone to the dogs with these soft judges and their lenient sentences, and the holiday camp prisons with TVs and gyms. Lock ’em up I say, and throw away the key. (Oh, sorry, wrong thread!) 😉

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          • Fedup2 says:

            Wild
            Is your comment some kind of trolling as I just don’t understand your point ?

               13 likes

            • Dover Sentry says:

              She/he has trolled here before.

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              • Fedup2 says:

                Dover – I did wonder if she is mentally okay …. as it seemed on the edge of rationality ….
                These are the kind of circumstances when trolls do their 2a.m. Baiting thing – but after having seen what a certain lefty political party does to its own perhaps silence will prevail .

                   6 likes

            • cromwell says:

              Fed up… She is a troll, proberly one of maxi’s friends. I have read her lefty comments elsewhere, just another windup merchant. Just ignore her and she’ll go away.

                 10 likes

              • pertelote says:

                I seem to remember interacting with “her” here the other day..I smelled troll then.. more so now!

                   5 likes

                • vesnadog says:

                  She couldn’t be one of BBCs TV News presenters whose blood is about to boil on her way home to Islington?

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          • taffman says:

            WildWomanOfThe Woods
            Childish. Go back and play in the woods .
            When you have grown up post something relevant about Al Beeb’s bias, or the unfair Telly Tax.
            Oh, but you are probably too young and don’t have to pay it.

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  19. StewGreen says:

    The Green hedgefunds PR guy comes up again and again on climate items.
    The BBC has introduced him as “climate scientist” .. Of course he isn’t
    not that title labels should make any difference, cos it’s the arguments that count.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Ezra calculates that TR will serve over 2 months of prison time based on previous time served . He also has to pay for his own trial .

      Two months is plenty of time to kill him

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      • vesnadog says:

        Fed,

        As we know it doesn’t matter how long he’s imprisoned its the fact that the judge(s) are scared enough to abide by his Muslim buddies desires.

        If the judge told him: “you are guilty but we won’t send you to prision” even that statement is not acceptable. He is not guilty.

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  20. G.W.F. says:

    TR gets 19 weeks. Judge says it is a deterrence.

    Perhaps Savid Javid and his pals in the Moslem Council might just this once enjoy a glass of champagne.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Is there any chance of appeal ?

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Stew
        I think there is – but only on sentence – because there are no guidelines about the offences . There is the risk that the court of appeal could increase it . The State wants blood .

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        • G.W.F. says:

          They are calculating costs and it looks like they could hit him hard financially. They have not finished yet.

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          • vesnadog says:

            G,

            “They are calculating costs and it looks like they could hit him hard financially. They have not finished yet. ”

            Weasel Hammond will make sure of that.

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        • Banania says:

          Why was there not a jury? Who decides?

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    • Helen Richardson says:

      “TR gets 19 weeks. Judge says it is a deterrence.”

      Well that’s interesting, isn’t it? I’m sure we’ve been told on numerous occasions, when it suits, that prison isn’t a deterrent.

      And wasn’t there a reasonably well publicised case not so long ago involving actual violence when some of those involved didn’t get custodial sentences at all? I’ve tried without success to find a reference to it.

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  21. StewGreen says:

    Today’s farming prog had item about sheep stealing.
    I don’t mind if they did proper research and said it has nothing to do with Islamic gangs
    ..buy=t I’m guessing the just avoided the issue instead.

       23 likes

    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      SG – Only a few “cuts to the neck”.
      All part of living in 700AD.

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      • vesnadog says:

        Stew,

        Having been involved with the care and well being of 1000s of sheep on our farm in New Zealand I can’t describe my sorrow and anger at the way those poor sheep will have suffered by our Muslim invaders.

        Our family used to have our pet lambs and took them to the local school farm-day every year. I can tell you that sheep are wonderful friends and are the complete opposite of those Muslims butchers – who have no idea about care and compassion for animals.

        Muslims for some reason are known for their love of shedding blood

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  22. StewGreen says:

    David Attenborough “A National Disgrace” – Telegraph
    As ever Paul Homewood has a discussion
    https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2019/07/11/__trashed

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  23. StewGreen says:

    Interesting

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  24. Lucy Pevensey says:

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  25. StewGreen says:

    Australia about taking someones name away from a Tennis Arena
    os she is not in TickboxTribe

       19 likes

    • vesnadog says:

      Stew,

      If I may – as its not BBC propaganda this time – though knowing the eagerness of the BBC rainbow evangelists its only a matter before we hear about it on all BBC TV/RADIO stations.

      “Australia”

      With respect to the guy in the TV Studio: he thinks that’s bad? And I’m sure Mrs Court will have heard about the following before people in Europe.

      “next step for the OZ judicial system is the call for polyamory [not the Mormon stuff] which in turn demands incest to be legalised,” then anything goes after that – including bestiality, and sex with children. Read this link as its a glimpse of what the UK must be prepared for. These highly educated people will not stop until every one of their sexual demands are granted.

      Very scary stuff – though there’s nothing to be offended by unless you hate the rainbow flag.

      https://www.christianpost.com/news/apa-launches-task-force-on-consensual-non-monogamy-calls-polyamory-a-marginalized-identity.html

      The bit about incestual sex is on one of the links.

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  26. StewGreen says:

    Amal says

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  27. LastChanceSaloon says:

    First job Boris, get this hero removed from jail.
    Drain the UK swamp.

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    • G.W.F. says:

      So far Boris has been silent on this issue. Will he act in favour of justice, will he sack from his cabinet those who are trying to kill TR? Or should we be realistic and support a party like UKIP.

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    • Jeff says:

      If you think for one minute that Boris will lift a finger to save Tommy from prison then you’re in for a great disappointment.
      There’s not a single establishment figure that would give Tommy the time of day.
      As far as I’m concerned Tommy Robinson is the modern day Tommy Atkins from the famous Rudyard Kipling poem. He’s despised and spat upon, but if ever our country needed him he’d be there. His education and his elocution let him down, but he’s worth ten of any of our Parliamentary parasites.
      Tommy’s the sort of bloke you would want standing beside you when the going gets tough.
      You wouldn’t want to be stuck in a trench with little Owen Jones or David Lammy.
      Well, I wouldn’t…

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  28. digg says:

    11.33am July 11th 2019

    The moment Freedom and Human Rights in this Country was taken away.

    We are now a third world entity under a repressive regime.

       35 likes

  29. JimS says:

    Doctors won’t work overtime because they lose out on pension tax benefits – Health care costs money.

    Doctors won’t charge foreigners – Health care shouldn’t cost money.

    I guess it depends on whose pocket is being hurt.

       46 likes

  30. Dover Sentry says:

    Fox News Live and Free.

    http://usnewsfox.live/fox-news-live-stream-hd/

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  31. Lucy Pevensey says:

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  32. Fiter says:

    i hope all the lefties who are currently filling in the complaint forms to the BBC about what they see as a biased Panorama programme, get the same answer i get every time i report Bias to good old Auntie!
    Which is basically “we are not biased in fact we are fair and even handed when dealing with Brexit issues, so F*%K OFF YOU RIGHT WING SCUM”
    Best is i dont think i am right wing or scum, but might end up being persuaded lol

       24 likes

  33. Fedup2 says:

    Looks like some TR supporters have marched on the state parliament – the state cops will be practicing their baton charges soon …..

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  34. G.W.F. says:

    There are reports that some protesters at the TR trial have attacked
    a BBC crew and broke some of their equipment.

    Bad people, the cost of replacement will come out of the licence fees.,

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  35. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Remember everybody.
    Tommy has said he will NEVER commit suicide in jail so if he does die in jail, it will be murder.

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  36. Up2snuff says:

    BBC Ewan Yores

    2016, 2017, 2018 – BBC help Labour MPs, other MPs, concerned citizens, Local Authorities, charities, Social Workers and former problem gamblers campaign against high stake, fixed odds Betting Terminals in Bookmakers’ Shops. BBC: “They are an evil blight on the poor.” Bookmakers warn it will result in losses, shop closures and redundancies.

    Government responds to campaigners requests.

    2019 – BBC are now wringing their hands and wondering what communities will do when they lose lots of Bookmakers in the High Streets. BBC: “This is going to be a big problem now for the poorest communities”!

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  37. G says:

    La-la land again.

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  38. Fedup2 says:

    Funny isn’t it ?

    People often complain about shortages –

    Well there is never a shortage of journalists , politicians or lawyers .

    All three types make a living from the real world but do not live in it .

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Four types. Judges. Don’t forget about them.
      Britain has some dreadful ones. So does Germany.
      So also, it seems, Italy.
      Take the story of Carola Rackete, captain of the ‘Sea Watch 3’, who picks up ‘migrants’ from the Lybian coast and dumps them in Lampedusa, an Italian island.
      Salvini had her arrested, when she ignored his warning not to ignore the law, but an Italian lady judge has just set her free.
      Pity the Italian navy has scruples…

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  39. Guest Who says:

    OT, but Sky may have summed up the state of media ‘reporting’ today in one para.

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    • Banania says:

      What has the English Defence League to do with anything? Why are the MSM constantly mentioning it, several times in the same article?

         9 likes

  40. Fedup2 says:

    Pug
    Maybe he should look at some of the biased comments by his employees on twitter before mouthing off from his impartial truthful high horse .

    He could also point out the bit in the Charter which gives the BBC power to go interfere with others countries press .

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  41. Doublethinker says:

    The gap between the elite , as exemplified by the judiciary and their victimisation of TR, and the people , has never been wider. The elite is determined to impose their liberal progressive policies on the people no matter how unwanted they are or how much the people protest about them. I see that in Germany there are probably grossly exaggerated stories about right wing populist violence. I ask the question if the elite refuse to accept democratic decisions, eg Brexit or the election of President Trump, they leave the people with an increasingly stark choice , either accept a dictatorship of the elite or resort to other means of seeking change. History tells us that eventually the elite loose the contest but often after much violence. If we are to avoid this the elite have to do as the people wish or voluntarily relinquish their power.

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  42. Thoughtful says:

    A ‘No deal Brexit’ is a fake news report.

    Failing to expand on this makes it an utterly meaningless term, are people really suggesting that if Britain leaves the EU on 31st October, the UK economy will completely collapse on 1st November, and on that day the shops will be empty?

    No one could take that seriously, and yet it is what they are pointing at. No one who talks about a ‘No deal Brexit’ is ever pressed for clarification of the point they make.

    Without explanation clarification and expansion it is a meaningless term and part of project fear which is why the BBC never ever asks the above.

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  43. Doublethinker says:

    The gap between the elite , as exemplified by the judiciary and their victimisation of TR, and the people , has never been wider. The elite is determined to impose their liberal progressive policies on the people no matter how unwanted they are or how much the people protest about them. I see that in Germany there are probably grossly exaggerated stories about right wing populist violence. I ask the question if the elite refuse to accept democratic decisions, eg Brexit or the election of President Trump, they leave the people with an increasingly stark choice , either accept a dictatorship of the elite or resort to other means of seeking change. History tells us that eventually the elite loose the contest but often after much violence. If we are to avoid this the elite have to do as the people wish or voluntarily relinquish their power. Increased repression and

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  44. fakenewswatcher says:

    pug – this would be extremely funny, were it not so sad for Britain, having a set-up like the bbc, pretending to be impartial, but with a toxic narrative and agenda all of its own…
    Fed by coercion and threats with menace, to boot.

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  45. Scroblene says:

    Seems like Tommy will serve about nine weeks.

    I bet the real reason is that they can tag him to kingdom come after that.

    As a few journos got jeered at, the world will come to an end in about three minu…

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  46. Dover Sentry says:

    The only beacon of hope for me is The Brexit Party.

    Certainly not the BBC.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Farage on his show before Xmas dismissed TR and crowd we the smear and dismiss label “thug”
      ..just the way someone might be dismissed with other smear word labels like the N-word or “dirty Jew” etc.
      ..I can see Farage was trying to avoid the toxicity and play to the media.
      but it is against the principles of equality so I can no longer blindly back Farage if he is going to play the swamps games.

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      • G.W.F. says:

        StewGreen

        Certainly true about Farage. We need to check out others who may be playing to the media . Mogg, for a start, I await Johnson and a few others who sit either centre or conservative with a reputation for respect for justice and equality.
        Noting warnings for el al Attorney General comments on social media can put many at risk, including this blog which is becoming the last bastion of free speech,

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        • Oaknash says:

          Yes the ever self seeking Nigel Farage quite happy to jump into bed with everyone from Bercow through to Tom Watson when it comes to throwing truth teller Tommy under the media bus, just because he was getting some MSM coverage.
          If anything happens to Tommy in jail I will consider all of these political figures (including Farage) partly responsible for enabling the state to vilify and imprison a journalist for telling inconvenient truths that the MSM and the establishment are desperate to cover up.

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    • Banania says:

      No support for TR from Farage or his party, or presumably from what is left of UKIP either.

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  47. StewGreen says:

    Dropping this link again here
    Since knowledge is power it is often worth looking back at what others added to comments.
    Link back to last page of previous Start The Week thread
    page4 took us to last thing on Tuesday

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    • theleftwilleatitself says:

      England men’s cricket team into the World Cup final ????
      Plenty of glum faces at broadcasting house, especially amongst the femiNazis ???? ????

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  48. fakenewswatcher says:

    I see Amber Rudd, ever the opportunist, has done a quick u-turn on ‘no deal’, in order -presumably- to keep her job when Boris takes charge.
    Hope he sends her off somewhere distant to plant veg.

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    • taffman says:

      fakenewswatcher
      Is there anything on Al Beeb about that ?

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      • fakenewswatcher says:

        taffman- can’t remember now where I saw it, having trawled through dozens of sites. Will let u know if I find…

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  49. Up2snuff says:

    The BBC don’t do science.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-48935401 *

    If they did, they might have asked a few more questions before publishing the above on the web-site. It’s no good complaining about journalists being attacked, Lord Hall, if you let the journalists you are responsible for publish FakeNews or FalseFacts.

    Of course the person who really should have checked this, at the BBC, is Jim Alkali.

    I’ll get my coat.

    * For readers who majored in Arts or Greats(Classics) at school, calcium salts are unlikely to be harmful (usually quite the reverse!) and it all depends what the ‘metal’ oxides are, whether they may cause harm to humans.

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  50. popeye says:

    BBC news at it again. NHRN was shown harassing defendants “charged” with sexual offences. NO. They had been found guilty of sexual offences and were going in to be sentenced. BBBC again inferring TR out of order (subliminal “innocent until proved guilty”)

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