332 Responses to Weekend Thread 28 December 2019

  1. Despairada says:

    Further to other comments about Nadiya Hussain’s MBE:

    She is actually getting an MBE for being the acceptable face of islam in the UK.

    I remember very soon after winning Bake Off she was on Desert Island Discs. I noticed in the newsagents she had a column in the Times. I noticed in Waitrose she had been invited to contribute in their freebie magazine. Then there were the cookery programmes, the books – both cookery and life story novels etc. She made a cake for the Queen, she’s just cosied up to the Cambridge’s for something or other. I think she’s gone on the Mental Health bandwagon as well.

    Don’t forget the cancelled program that was to follow Nadiya on the Haj, which I understand was cancelled because the programme makers (was that going to be a BBC endeavour?) didn’t want to balance it with pilgrimages for any other religion.

    Now, apparently, no Christmas is complete without ‘Nadiya’s Festive Food’. How did we ever manage to cook for Chrismas without her?

    My main point is that she has not strived and struggled to get into all of these media streams, she has been invited to do things and promoted and supported by others. She was probably selected for bake off in the first place to fill a muslim slot.

    The acceptable face of islam? Not to me.

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    • Mrs Kitty says:

      She was what finished GBBO for me, as soon as I saw the contestants I knew she would win. The farce of the final with her showstopper had me laughing, never took it seriously after that.

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      • Despairada says:

        I don’t do broadcast TV so I caught only one episode of Bake Off when she was on, that was round at my mum’s house. I thought the huge hijab and long sleeves down to the wrists should not have been allowed on the grounds of hygiene.

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        • G.W.F. says:

          Nadia’s award demonstrates that the BBC is in charge.

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          • BRISSLES says:

            We have sportsmen getting knighthoods, yet a member of the winning 1966 world cup team died without a single honour to his name. We have a baking contest winner from 4 years ago getting the same award as a 94 year old D Day landing veteran who has raised £10,000 for a national memorial.

            Its nothing short of a bloody scandal.

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      • Deborah says:

        My memory of Nadiya was the cake she made for the queen which was plain areas of colour and leaned like the tower at Pisa. Frankly it was amateurish. Brendan would have made a much finer cake and it would have been perfect in every detail. He was an older white male so didn’t stand a chance.

        I hope that Nadiya has been quietly doing a lot of charity work, unpaid, and that has influenced the decision to give her a gong. If she has, she has done it so modestly the BBC has not publicised it.

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        • BRISSLES says:

          Deborah, I don’t see how she’s had the time to make her ‘mark’ in the charity world. She’s been far too busy having a fashion overhaul, doing endless photoshoots, being an author, travelling abroad to find her ancestors coupled with food shows, tv presenting, baking royal cakes, giving statements about her anxiety and panic attacks, then numerous meetings about her cookery columns, oh, and ‘cheffing’. Charity work? perhaps she needs to speak to Marcus Waring to get a real handle on charity – and I make no apologies for saying again, this 2 star Michelin chef does NOT have any honour despite his impressive career path and CV.

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      • Lunchtime Loather says:

        If you watched the earlier series of GBBO you would have seen them make hand-raised pork pies in several episodes. For some reason they no longer do that…

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    • JimS says:

      It might make an interesting project to list all those who owe their ‘honour’ to free promotion on the BBC over the years.

      Honours should be awarded to those who have quietly worked for the benefit of the UK, not a top-up for those who have already been awarded.

      Another, shorter, project might be to analyse the Mastermind episode with Samira Ahmed. The contestants were pretty evenly matched, but poor John could hardly get a breath in when it came to feeding Samira with her general knowledge questions compared to the leisurely amble with his fellow white males.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Jim
        I thought it was only me on the mastermind show . I also notice that the‘ tone ‘ of questions change for certain contestants .

        As can be seen by the types awarded gongs – the committee making the decisions must try to put snowflake each other with some deluded group think that if you give gongs to token representatives of races or types you make for some kind of ‘inclusion ‘ when in fact anyone with a bit of common sense would just ‘eye roll’ .

        There will always be the direct number 10 awards – as long as this outdated concept runs .

        But at least Bercow will have to wait a bit longer for his peerage – perhaps he can wait until hell freezes over . The footage of the speaker processing through the commons and being clapped by the traitor side whilst the Conservative – government – side is empty says it all as a testimony for what that nasty little man did to his office .

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      • Fred Stubber says:

        16, 15, 16, then 18 for Samira

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    • G says:

      Des,
      Two words: Appeasing islam.

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    • Northern Voter says:

      Talk about having your cake and eating it!

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  2. StewGreen says:

    JustGiving won’t be charging a platform fee to the charity. Adding a small contribution on top of your donation means we can continue to help more people.
    Help us help more people.”

    The slider offer you a choice os 5, 10, 15% top up donation
    That goes entirely to the profit making corp JustGiving
    I guess if you donate £100 the actual processing cost to JG should be £2.50 or less
    so on £15 to up they make £12.50 profit !
    sure making such a profit helps them to help more people
    … poor choice of wording by them.

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  3. StewGreen says:

    Do Black (Christian) lives matter to London liberal media ?

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    • vlad says:

      Wrong kind of victims (Christian), wrong kind of killers (black Muslims). So who cares? Certainly not Al-beeb.

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  4. StewGreen says:

    Enrichment news
    another migrant enriching ..himself and impoverishing this country

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  5. StewGreen says:

    The BBC is bragging about its podcast stats
    claiming 49million listeners for the Archers
    but they appear to have added up the years entire output
    and since there are 300 episodes a year
    that means probably 200,000 listeners
    given some are downloading the weekly version

    Peter Crouch got 12m

    They claim 3m/week listen on BBC Sounds
    emm that means 95@% of UK population don’t !

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    • Guest Who says:

      The BBC are currently in a desperate attempt to fudge all figures across the board as their audience base crashes.

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  6. Guest Who says:

    A classic Toenails transcript courtesy of ITBB.

    http://isthebbcbiased.blogspot.com/2019/12/charles-moore-v-nick-robinson-today-28.html

    He really needs surgical removal.

    I am guessing the tonality of Spider Lady was and that for Swedish Munchkin will be less… ‘intrusive’.

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    • Guest Who says:

      The wagons circle.

      Rather nice sting in the tail in the comments.

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      • Guest Who says:

        Roger Harrabin is ‘liking’ like fury all the clowns who support the bbc no matter what. Quite the collection.

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  7. fakenewswatcher says:

    Guest- isn’t it astonishing how an ‘interviewer’ enthusiastically denigrates and verbally assaults the person he is supposed to be interviewing? There are no boundaries that cannot be crossed: courtesy, civility, fairness, even common decency, seem to be mean nothing to this man. Nick has -even for a shameless propagandist- completely lost the plot.
    For Nick, ‘balance’ is a foreign concept. He has his PC ideology, the key virtue of which seems to be ‘change’, and boy, you’d better not question its merits. His Master’s Voice, so don’t argue…

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    • Guest Who says:

      Worth noting how the acolytes in the twitter thread above could see no hint that Toenails was failing badly in the impartiality dept.

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  8. Dystopian says:

    Stabbing at Manchester shopping centre. Nothing on BBC yet?

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10632040/cops-manchesters-arndale-shopping-centre-serious-incident/amp/

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  9. Guest Who says:

    Radio 4

    Five major worldwide beauty competition winners are black women. Is this important?

    ***

    The BBC asks.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Also Radio 4

      “If everything gets very bad and overwhelming, just hide in a toilet stall.”

      ***
      Get the impression no one is actually in charge there?

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    • Northern Voter says:

      Why doesn’t the BBC ask why there are no contests for white males?

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    • Lefty Wright says:

      Guest Who
      Maybe the judges forgot to keep their appointments at SpecSavers.

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  10. LastChanceSaloon says:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50933535
    BBC Politics
    2019-12-28 14:30
    “Michael Howard: Judges sometimes ‘distort’ the law to reach result they want”

    Sometimes?

    The left cannot win a general election, their policies are unpopular.
    Spiderwoman and ten of her lefty mates (11-0!) are just the latest bunch of lefty infiltrators to try to rig the game.

    From Ofcom to the Electoral Commission via most “think-tanks” and every major “charity” the snouts of the lefty moles are in a majority in every unelected QANGO, trying to Communise and Internationalise the UK without the permission of the electorate.

    The problem Boris and Co should have is which one of the anti British bodies to shut down first.
    The problem traitor May and her lefty “Conservative” conspirators had was how to avoid doing this.
    BBC for the chop in 2020 or we need another Conservative party leadership election.

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    • Lefty Wright says:

      LastChanceSaloon
      I feel that unless Boris can come to understand what motivated thousands of lifelong Socialists to vote for the Conservative Party and be seen to honour their wishes then their support could just disperse like a fart in a wind tunnel and with it,a Tory Government.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Lefty
        I don’t equate labour ( traditional ) supporters with socialism – the brand Corbyn momentum wanted . Cummings knows that the race to the bottom in labour costs as foreigners are imported to cheat the system is a cause of Brexit – and seeing the characters of towns changing rapidly without consultation .

        If the government get control and EU citizens return to their home countries in numbers that will do it . But this might be determined by economics rather than policy . I’m talking years from now though .

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  11. StewGreen says:

    police-speak : IC identity code
    IC1 (White), IC3 (Black), IC4 (West Asian), IC5 (East Asian)

    How come media don’t differentiate betweem IC4 and IC5 ?

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  12. Thoughtful says:

    thanks-im-cured-25-photos-17.jpg?quality=100&strip=info&w=641&zoom=2

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  13. StewGreen says:

    The Muslim Council guy tweeted this
    4 hours later after talking to his Hatey No Hoper mates he says
    ‘Hey BF don’t even have 1,000 members’

    … It’s all a non-story to me. The Socialist Worker crowd were big enough to take over the Labour Party but it’s not likely that BF would take over the Tories.

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    • StewGreen says:

      @AltNewsMedia tweet
      Tens of thousands of Muslims have joined Labour,
      .. attracted by the endemic antisemitism that’s under investigation from the EHRC.

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    • vlad says:

      So now to defend your country against radical islam is ‘far-right’.

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  14. Guest Who says:

    Just a small tub of popcorn…

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Guest
      There was a discussion about the relative levels of complaints between the BBC and ITV . I did a little net trawl and found an article from 3 years ago in the mail saying that 10 out of 12 complaints are rejected .

      I suppose OFCON will have numbers somewhere .

      Another developing tactic the BBC seems to be using is boasting about number using podcasts or other non broadcast stuff as a distraction from falling figures – but I’m sure the troll is a fan of something called ‘Stacy and Gary’ …..and will leap to another 3am rant about the comments of others and how he is a fan of ‘Stacy and Gary ‘ which proves the BBC is still popular and therefore not biased and therefore we are all wrong and the troll is right ….

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    • Guest Who says:

      DEVELOPING (nicely):

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      • Guest Who says:

        I need to sleep on ‘government owned but gets no funding from the government’ as that also sounds like a unique open to all sorts of jiggery and, possibly, pokery with munny directions.

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        • vlad says:

          They should ALL be privatised and made to pay their own way. Then the public should be offered a truly alternative news channel like Fox or Sky Aus. Then let the market decide and may the best man win.

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          • taffman says:

            Vlad
            If they (Al Beeb ) are as good as they say they are the parasites may even be able to pay tax on the profit they make to repay all the money they have siphoned off the nation and its people over the years ?
            Why hasn’t Boris acted on this ?

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    • StewGreen says:

      The poll must use dumb question
      Cos the idea of “trusted source” is a fallacy
      The public do not blindly trust sources
      .. rather they weigh up the evidence the broadcaster gives them.

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  15. Thoughtful says:

    Just watching a rather nasty film – the art of self defence with Jesse Eisenberg.

    So I thought I’d look up what turns out to be yet another self destructive NY Jewish family.

    His mother, Amy (née Fishman), who now teaches cross cultural sensitivity in hospitals, previously worked as a clown at children’s parties and choreographer.

    Cross cultural sensitivity ? WTF ???

    His father, Barry Eisenberg, drove a taxicab, then worked at a hospital, and later became a college professor, teaching sociology

    So you can go from being a taxi driver to being a professor just like that ??

    His other sister, Kerri Eisenberg, now Kerry Lea, who also worked as an actress, ran a vegetarianism and animal rights-based children’s theatre troupe

    animal rights-based children’s theatre troupe ??? WTF ???

    Seems like the Jewish Cabal in NY is making sure that only certain individuals get ahead so long as they are as self destructive and nutty as a fruit cake as this particular lot are.

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  16. StewGreen says:

    The president tweets

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  17. taffman says:

    Ah well (sigh), its back to work then . Hello hello what’s going on here then ?……………….
    “Bristol weapons arrest: Bomb unit orders evacuation of homes”
    “We can confirm that this is not a terrorist-related incident and the actions taken are precautionary due to some of the items found in the property.”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-50936038

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  18. taffman says:

    “Ivor The Engine: Bagpuss’s cartoon brother on track for comeback”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-50836184
    I am sure we can all guess where this is going to go when the ‘PC brigade’ get their hands on it .

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      Dai the Station will become Die the Infidel.

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      • taffman says:

        How about Ivor the tranny train driver ?
        Hang on we already have Bani Moukerjee the elephant keeper.
        But will Idris the Dragon be replaced by Puff the Magic Dragon?
        Any more ?

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  19. StewGreen says:

    BBC people who won honours
    Sir Jimmy Savile
    Rolf Harris CBE
    Stuart Hall CBE

    Sir Cyril Smith won as well

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    • StewGreen says:

      George the Poet: ” I turned down MBE over ‘evil’ of British Empire”

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      A taxi driver from Rotherham writes: “I have much in common with those people – where is my MBE?”

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  20. vlad says:

    The wonderful Religion of Peace strikes again, bless.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-50932130

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    • G says:

      Our World Class Broadcaster tells me, earlier, that a knife attack in NY by a, “man” kills a number including a Rabbi. It’s that, “man” again who sure gets around a lot.

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  21. StewGreen says:

    Angela Rayner has the calibre to be next Labour Leader


    BTW Twitter says that AR herself didn’t vote against the cuts but instead abstained.
    BTW2 “Rayner left secondary school aged 16 whilst pregnant and without any qualifications.
    She later trained as a care worker “

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  22. keith jeremy says:

    Love the way the BBC describe rioting inmates of Feltham Young Offenders Prison as “youngsters”. Why not “kiddies”.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-50933128

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  23. Loobyloo says:

    Read it and weep
    Lake District ‘must change’ to attract more diverse visitors
    https://news.sky.com/story/lake-district-must-change-to-attract-more-diverse-visitors-11897034

    Not featured on Al Beeb yet, maybe too far away from them and they haven’t heard of it ????

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      This campaign has been running since the time of the Blair regime. The real objective is to reduce the options for native Britons to connect with their heritage and culture. But here’s some useful suggestions as to how the Lake District ‘must change’:
      1. Remove the tens of thousands of signs that read ‘No Blacks, Dogs or Irish’ and the watchtowers, thus creating a more friendly environment for BAMEs.
      2. Drain the lakes – all that water makes the place terribly damp.
      3. Relocate the Lake District to just outside the M25 motorway, thereby making it more accessible to Londoners (Editor’s Note: a ‘Londoner’ is simply a person residing in London and does not necessarily have any connection with the place).

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      • Dover Sentry says:

        I’d relocate the lakes to within the M25.

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      • JimS says:

        “Editor’s Note: a ‘Londoner’ is simply a person residing in London and does not necessarily have any connection with the place”

        Or a person not yet living in London but who would like to live in London (even more a Londoner than those who just happen to live there). This is called the Trudeau Doctrine, which also insists that ‘the West’ has no native culture.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Speaking of relocation….

      ‪https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/dec/28/bbc-put-presenter-on-a-plane-to-interview‬

      “Ms Sands said: “Greta is not actually judgmental towards individuals”

      How dare you Ms. Sands. And the idiot organisation you and Ms. Husain assume can do as it pleases in face of what you tell others.

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      • Guest Who says:

        Recordings of BBC editorial integrity production meetings must be golden.

        ***

        “So lads, lasses and the rest of you… Christmas is coming and we really need to do something about that little GE propaganda farrago. Who do we make the voice of the big day?”

        “Stormy Daniels, of course!”

        “Beat me to it, Jon. Done and dusted”.

        ****
        The Radio 4 Today Bunker.

        Sands of Time: “Ok, things are rocking on on the guest editing front. Spider Lady knocked it out of the park. Grayson was a bit off message and the Poet did not appear to know it. Nick did a top job cutting across the token righty. Who do we wheel out Monday to twist that knife?”

        Mishal: “Greta! And Meeeeee!”

        Sandy Shaw: “Genius…. but, isn’t she, well, not near? And we are a bit short on time…”

        Roger: “No problem, take some of my air miles. And this cactus”.

        Sandbag: ” Well that sorts out any possible #awks. Nice one Rog. Next… Hogmanay with Nicola and her Jimmy Shand impressions?

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    • Invicta 1066 says:

      I can go back some 35 years when I was in the Lake District with my then very young children.
      There were meeting paces where you could link up with local guides for a talk and possibly a walk. I think you paid a small fee, but it was mostly volunteers and there was some other funding.
      There were notices saying as the meetings were not attracting enough (any) ethnic minority groups, they might be discontinued!
      There also something about transporting these same groups out to the District from towns and showing them around for free!

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    • Oldspeaker says:

      That is a spoof piece isn’t it? I’ve never been the sharpest tool in the box and it’s hard to tell anymore.

      “Research shows visitors to the Lake District, where the rugged fells inspired the romantic poets and author Beatrix Potter, are too heavily weighted towards older, able-bodied white people.”
      The able bodied part I can get, but ‘older’ and ‘white people’ would seem a little harder to quantify. Seems a little like jumping on the agenda train to ensure future funding. Mayhap the ‘researcher’ is an ageist racist with ulterior motive, nah, he used to write for the guardian so that can’t be so.

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    • StewGreen says:

      \\ Better get a child brothel, some knife crime and pump out gangsta rap to keep the minorities happy. //

      – Drugfest Lake District 2020
      – Burkafest Lake District 2020

      They’ll get Nadiya in I guess

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    • StewGreen says:

      What Research ?
      Rule you can’t make dramatic claims, and then not quote a source
      “Richard Leafe @LakesChief
      I’m the Chief Executive of the Lake District National Park, England’s largest National Park.”
      Sky quotes him
      “The moment we get into that position I think national parks start to lose their relevance and therefore the very reason for calling it a national park and spending public money.”
      SKY ADD
      \\ Research shows visitors to the Lake District, where the rugged fells inspired the romantic poets and author Beatrix Potter, are too heavily weighted towards older, able-bodied white people. //

      FFS Sky if you don’t quote the source of your research it is merely hearsay

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    • StewGreen says:

      Richard Leafe thinks he’s chief of the Snowf-Lake District National Park

      “Research shows”
      GFY @GerardTubb #SkyNews
      It is irresponsible to make GRAND claims
      & not give a source of such research

      Sky reporter Gerard doesn’t even get his own Twitter name right at the top of the SkyNews page

      PJW just said
      \\ Imagine being told that visitors to the Great Wall of China were too “Chinese.” //

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      • Oldspeaker says:

        After a re read of the, er, research I think I get it now Stew. If the lakes attract mainly older white people then the Lakes themselves are obviously racist, it’s not the people but the very countryside itself to blame. Only one answer, level it. As a youngspeaker I used to visit about twice a year, mainly walking trips with like minded friends. Often cold, windy and damp, not everyones cup of tea, hostels of yesteryear may not suit the yoof of today however. I don’t think the cost was prohibitive, some lads would hitch from Manchester to keep cost down.
        Maybe if visiting the countryside is not part of a peoples tradition or culture they might not want to go.

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        • StewGreen says:

          Sathnam Sanghera in 2009 in the Times
          rebutted the idea that countryside is racist
          my 59-year-old Sikh mother has become more religious and correspondingly stricter in her dietary and religious observances (often the same thing).
          Then there’s the fact that my mother has never actually visited the English countryside in her 40 years of British residency, and also doesn’t speak English, meaning that conveying the concept of a “day trip to the North York Moors” in my rusty Punjabi is a challenge, both culturally and linguistically.

          https://www.sathnam.com/countryside-racist/

          BTW that Sky report got ratioed 600 Likes vs 3,000 replies

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  24. tomo says:

    that data breach warning

    biasedbbcmessage.jpg

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    • tomo says:

      what’s annoying is the lack of detail.

      Is it a compromised app? (Chrome ???)

      Is it the site’s admin that has been (purportedly) compromised?

      Big difference

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    • StewGreen says:

      “don’t panic Captain Mannering”
      Nothing has changed on your side , it is a Chrome update.
      It now has a facility to check if the password you use is on a list of hacked passwords but NOT necessarily with your own email/login.
      eg If someone else has used the password “123456” on their Myspace account and it appears on a list of hacked passwords
      and you happen to use “123456” for your BiasedBBC login
      you will get the warning
      … even though it’s NOT your personal account that was hacked.
      https://www.pcworld.com/article/3489420/google-chrome-79-new-features.html
      https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/assemble-products-forum/quot-change-your-password-quot-pop-up-in-google-chrome/td-p/9212237

      Do you need to do anything for Biased BBC ?
      No not really cos the worse thing that could ever happen is that someone could match you login name with a known password and start posting in your name.

      However for your important logins like your bank or email
      you should be using a proper systematic approach to passwords
      – Don’t use the same password for different accounts
      – Do change your passwords every 3 months or so.
      If you have a 100 logins across the internet say British Gas, Hotmail, SuperPorn etc. then over say 1 or 2 years one of them will have a data breach
      .. And if you have different passwords for them all it won’t matter cos your other 99 will still be secure
      .. And if you did happen to use the same password for another account .. they have only a few weeks window to find that account ..cos you have system of changing passwords every 3 months.

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      • StewGreen says:

        Some people use password manager type apps
        That choice is up to you
        But it is like putting all your own passwords in same basket.
        Password manager companies have been hacked before.

        95% of hacks happen cos someone has tricked you into clicking a link in an EMAIL.
        So beware of emails that say
        ” Oh my god something terrible/fantastic has happened,
        click here to fix it “

        They are often ambush disguised
        eg “We are your bank, your account has been hacked
        ..so quick click here to change your password”

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        • tomo says:

          aye….

          but FFS Google – warnings like this do not help security much – the very least they could do is have a clear (non hijack-able) link to an explanation – an opportunity missed.

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  25. Guest Who says:

    Bless.

    Just how many Confluence of Cock Up Editors does the bbc now employ?

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  26. Guest Who says:

    #winning

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    • Guest Who says:

      The wagons circle.

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    • Beltane says:

      Bradby was once impartial but has morphed to become ITV’s Robinson, Peston is simply a vocally deranged Marr and the smug, patronising Robert Moore their very own Sopel.
      By short-term comparison a more trusted news source – but not for long. Prejudice is prejudice and bias is bias, the significant change is in the ability of the general public to appreciate these facts and react accordingly.

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  27. fakenewswatcher says:

    First big government cock-up (data leak) gleefully reported as lead item on all beeb news bulletins. Just what the doctor ordered after the big Johnson victory. The Cabinet Office appears to have fouled up.
    Mistake or…?
    The thought simply crossed my mind, as I said recently that I could hear rustling in the undergrowth, so I’m waiting for the first signs of what’s lurking, and what they’re up to. I do feel the data breach was likely a cock up, but it’s convenient for critics, so it wouldn’t surprise me if it was ‘enemy action’.
    Make no mistake, they’re out there, they’re busy, busy, and we WILL hear from them.
    Two of three ‘guests’ on Paddy’s ‘Broadcasting House’ think it’s THE big story. Surprise. John Sargeant has a go at government over apparent bending of the immigration rules to suit HM. Dear old man, he’s all attack dog this a.m.
    Charles Moore is getting it in the neck.

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  28. Happyuk says:

    A BBC article that is both interesting and revealing concerning what it’s like find yourself unemployed as a Labour candidate, post election defeat.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50869679

    I wonder, do you think the article would be half as sympathetic had it been the other way around with the Tories taking a drubbing instead? Another irritation is when you read what these complainypants keep banging on about – it’s all about themselves, and nothing about their constituents.

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  29. Deborah says:

    I think this is the same as somebody posted yesterday. I have a very fuzzy box appear above some comments saying that I should change my password because of a data breach. I am away from home and only on the iPad so cannot take a screen shot. But I will ignore. The box doesn’t move so I can just scroll beneath it.

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  30. Foscari says:

    I wrote yesterday with a certain amount of tongue in cheek
    that we now have Irish Republic women sports reporters on
    the BBC talking with an Irish brogue which is difficult to understand ,
    especially for us in Londonistan.
    But the more I think about it ,and call me paranoid if you like
    I believe that BIG BROTHER at the BBC’S diversity department
    has decided that ENGLISH the white man’s language is the next
    thing ,in the name of diversity the BBC is going to go after.
    Of course the fact that ENGLAND with the exception of
    Londonistan with indigenous Londoners being in a minority of
    something like 30% , was one of the only areas that voted Labour
    in the General Election. And of course most of the hierarchy
    at the diversity dept at the BBC come or live in the “swamp.”
    The Irish brogue and continuity presenters talking in what
    sounds like patois is just the beginning.

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Foscari – I was listening to a late night programme by ‘George the poet’ on R4, and I think I understood 10% of what was being said/hissed/ ‘sung’. I was trying to figure out WHAT made George a poet, but couldn’t. Then again, there was an occasional attempt to have word endings rhyme at random. Lotsa Rap stuff, Bro.
      I recall some beeb producer saying last year that regional accents were “gold dust” for the bbc.

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  31. Charlie Farley says:

    Albeeb News 24 , So Big Ben will be striking the new year in ……then a typical snide comment ( and very quickly moved on from ) that the new Speaker Lesley Hoyle will not object to the January 31st celebration of escaping from EUROPE’S CLUTCHES . Thank our God he is not like Bercow. It seems the BBC editors just cannot stop the constant manipulation to their own left wing agenda

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  32. Charlie Farley says:

    More migrants coming in to Dover ….why oh why can’t they be towed back to France ? . Bring back WW2 Mine Fields

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    • theisland says:

      There is some talk of possible plans to split borders and immigration out of the Home Office and transfer it into a separate department.
      If so, the military should be in charge of defending our borders, and not a bunch of EU-loving, self-serving, civil service ‘internationalists’.
      All these invaders who end up disappearing or trying to claim ‘asylum’ here are (at best) queue jumping criminals.

      SEND THEM BACK.

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      • Charlie Farley says:

        The island
        Yes exactly , I have always thought the Military should be the Border Force , over the years many have been retired early especially after recent conflicts..Iraq and Afghanistan…and quite a few have suffered mentally and become homeless , surely a way to help those gallant troops is give them a purpose again and they would be keeping out some of the bastards who were trying to kill and mame them….nothing like meeting old enemies again for a second chance ! !

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      • Banania says:

        The military what?

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    • taffman says:

      Well that means more houses, hospitals, schools and infrastructure needed, but never mind they will be ‘engineers’, ‘doctors’, ‘scientists’ and ‘nurses’ .
      Our politicians are still not listening .

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    • taffman says:

      An “unflinching” look at the causes of Labour’s defeat was now needed, they warned, rather than a “simple review”.
      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50936655

      A “simple review” would reveal that the Labour Party did not listen to the appeals of the ordinary working people.
      They are still not listening. Advice to the Labour Party – Keep it Simple.

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  33. davylars says:

    Well. We know where the BBC stand on MargretThatcher.

    Margaret Thatcher: ‘A shrill and ageing woman’

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-50727490

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    • Thoughtful says:

      We also know where the cowardly useless incompetent Tories stood on Margaret Thatcher as they stabbed her in the back.

      Now it’s safe to do so they regard her as some kind of beacon of conservatism, but they are not prepared to follow in her footsteps because they haven’t the sense nor the courage.

      They did the same to Winston Churchill too, prefering cowardice incompetence and uselessness when it came to dealing with Hitler.

      Lessons learned by the Tories – none what so ever, and if a similar threat arose today Boris the Bottler would probably be even more craven than Chamberlain.

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  34. Guest Who says:

    75% is more than 25%, isn’t it?

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    • taffman says:

      Guest Who
      When is this defunct broadcaster going to be consigned to where it belongs . The Dustbin .
      Get a move on Boris, or you will be moved on.

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  35. taffman says:

    “General election 2019: Anna Soubry disbands Independent Group for Change”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50858811
    I hear that Anna has a new job in broadcasting ?
    Of course , ‘needs must’ .

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  36. StewGreen says:

    FFS Anna Soubry has a new job, she is presenting on LBC right now
    “It is disgraceful that Bercow has not being put into the House of Lords
    ..We don’t know if he turned it down .. MY good honourable FRIEND Ken Clarke has always said he himself would not work in the House of Lords.”

    Ah GW our posted overlapped I see

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    • StewGreen says:

      Talking about honours
      Caller “It shouldn’t be jobs for the boys ”
      Soubry “or girls !”

      … FFS isn’t the way she suddenly pops up on LBC “jobs for the Remainiac girls/boys” ?

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      • taffman says:

        Perhaps she will stand as the leader of The Labour Party next , or worse, work for Al Beeb ?

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        • Dover Sentry says:

          Why not let Soubry stand for both Labour and the BBC? Both roles are interchangeable.

          And she will also ensure the destruction of both.

          She gets my vote 🙂

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    • StewGreen says:

      Well it is panto season
      only 19 likes and ratioed 10 to 1 by comments against her

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  37. G says:

    Soros’ disciples – US Democrats – banned from Philippines.

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  38. Jeff says:

    I know we’ve had lots of comments about the recent honours, but…
    Harry Billinge, the D Day veteran. “I just did my job, I don’t want any glory. I am choked beyond measure”. He also raised £20,000 for a memorial commemorating his fallen comrades.
    He received the MBE.
    Nadiya Hussain, bakes cakes, has been given her own TV series, pots of money, a book contract and has endlessly complained about white male privilege and how hard it is being a Muslim in Britain…also received the MBE.
    Perhaps Nadiya would have liked to have told her thoughts on white male privilege to some of Harry’s fallen colleagues.
    Sadly it’s a bit late…

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    • pertelote says:

      Indeed Jeff..NH..is nothing more than a BBC apparatchik/star-child. What next? candidacy for a Labour held constituency in London.. then a MP?..she ticks nearly all their usual boxes after all. They missed a trick there had they roped (no pun intended) her in for the recent GE she could have had a pop at the Labour Leadership. Why not!?..they’re not exactly spoiled for choice now are they!?

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    • BRISSLES says:

      Jeff, I made the same comparison at the top of this page. Giving this lady ANY award for her limited achievements is beyond scandalous, and can think that it must have been someone at the BBC who put her forward. Perhaps its her reward for not being able to participate in Strictly ???

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  39. Tabs says:

    Anyone else not getting reponses to some BBC complaints? If I complain about bias I get the usual 10 day wait for stock answers of “we beleive we got the balance just right this time”.

    But when I complain about a couple of cases where the BBC have been racist towards Orientals and when they show support for paedofiles I just get a 4 week wait for “we are unable to respond to this complaint. Feel free to contact Ofcam.”

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  40. G says:

    “Sanctuary Cities”. In the US these ‘SC’s’ represent all the rapidly failing or already failed cities in the US like Baltimore, which are under Democrat/Marxist control. Both terms are synonymous/interchangeable. It’s so sad to see the beacon of freedom in the Western World being destroyed, intentionally, from within.
    I sure hope that The Donald successfully pushes back the increasingly constricting Marxist infestation. But there, it has been a well coordinated conspiracy for decades to bring the US to its knees so he could be forgiven if he eventually fails. One thing’s for sure, if he devotes the rest of his days to exterminating Marxism in the US, he will go down in history as the best POTUS ever. What a legacy if he can achieve that.

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  41. pugnazious says:

    Classic BBC yesterday as Charles Moore guest-edited the Today show.

    First we had the total refusal to accept that the BBC was biased.

    The opening line from Robinson laying out Moore’s contention…before moving in to try and demolish it…

    ‘Now, your focus of this guest editorship, in many ways, seems to have been things you think the BBC either doesn’t cover properly or doesn’t cover at all because of what you described earlier in a conversation of the BBC acting as a sort of nationaliser of the culture? ‘

    Robinson immediately tried to say the BBC was not the problem….

    ‘Isn’t part of your objection, in part, not so much to the British Broadcasting Corporation but to Britain and the way Britain has changed?

    Instantly suggesting Moore and, in Robinson’s view, his outdated, backward, racist, bigoted, homophobic, misogynist, far-right views were not in tune with modern Britain as represented by the BBC.

    So immediately Robinson deploys the classic attack and refuses to accept Moore’s views, opinions and values have any worth or credibility and that only the BBC’s worldview is the acceptable and orthodox one….and does so by smearing Moore by, without actually saying it, alluding his views are racist and all the rest….

    ‘You have a series of views which are not the conventional wisdom of the day, and it upsets you that the country has changed in ways you don’t like.’

    Robinson proving, ironically, exactly what Moore was contending…that the BBC was intolerant of views that challenge its own worldview and so silences, limits the ability to express those views, or mocks and insults people with those views.

    Second we had the classic defence when it is suggested that right-wing views, or perhaps better characterised as views found unacceptable by the BBC, don’t get a fair hearing on the BBC. The BBC’s response?…..but you’re on the programme so that proves the BBC gives airtime to your views.

    Naturally that’s not the case….the BBC will let you on , occasionally, but ony so that it can tear into you, criticise, mock, dismiss and deride your claims….in fact just as Nick Robinson does in his interviews with Moore and Matt Ridley….the BBC rigorously polices the limits of any debate….it gives the illuson of freedom of speech and thought but step outside what it considers acceptable and you’re stamped on…as Chomsky states…

    ‘The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum – even encourage the more critical and dissident views. That gives people the sense that there’s free thinking going on, while all the time the presuppositions of the system are being reinforced by the limits put on the range of the debate.’

    Or quite blatantly from a BBC environmental correspondent to Phil Jones of the UEA’s CRU…

    ‘‘But we are constantly being savaged by the loonies for not giving them any coverage at all… and being the objective impartial (ho ho) BBC that we are, there is an expectation in some quarters that we will every now and then let them say something. I hope though that the weight of our coverage makes it clear that we think they are talking through their hats.’’

    Thirdly we have the classic aggressive interruptions…constant and disruptive, designed to put the speaker off and to derail any intelligent line of thought and the ability to put across a coherent argument….again Nick Robinson excelled in his interviews with this technique…..‘No, no, no…..’

    Fourth we have the classic blatant lie….an interviewee says something and the BBC interviewer will dismiss it instantly as untrue, using hs own lie to ‘prove’ this is so, and then move rapidly on not giving the chance to examine the truth on this. Again Robinson excels….when Ridley stated that Roger Harrabin was a campaigner and took his instructions from the climate change lobby this was immediately dismissed…Harrabin is a fine and upstanding journalist…er no, he’s not. He’s corrupt, a liar and deeply, deeply in the pocket of, and beholden to, the green lobby….and he’s not a scientist, he’s an English graduate….so when he demands all people who talk about climate change be scientists…..

    Harrabin is a campaigner not a journalist…he admits it himself…

    ‘‘I have spent much of the last two decades of my journalistic life warning about the potential dangers of climate change’’

    Not reporting on, not reporting scientists saying the climate is in danger…but himself warning about those dangers. Hardly impartial and balanced.

    He was actually on the Tyndall Centre’s advisory board…climate change central…and he wanted a more pro-active effort to silence climate change sceptics…..

    ‘We had an interesting debate on this at the Tyndall Advisory Board last week, and the consensus was very much in line with your views, except for the journalist present (Roger Horobin) [sic], who wanted something more pro-active.’

    We know Harrabin wrote to the dark heart of the climate change lobby, the Tyndall Centre at the UEA, a centre that wants to ‘to exert a seminal influence on the design and achievability of the long-term strategic objectives of national and international climate policy’….he asked Prof. Mike Hulme how the BBC should report on climate change to make it more effective in grabbing the viewers’ attention to get them on-board with the climate change message….

    ‘Dear Mike
    We are writing to some alumni of the University of Cambridge Media and Environment seminars gathering ideas for the BBC’s coverage of the Rio+10 Earth Summit in a year’s time. Before the Rio summit, the BBC held the One World festival, which included some memorable broadcasting – particularly a feature drama on refugees. Some broadcasting is already in the pipeline that will relate to the themes of Rio+ 10, but this is an open opportunity for you to put forward ideas that will be collated and circulated amongst relevant BBC decision-makers.

    What should the BBC be doing this time in terms of news, current affairs, drama, documentaries, game shows, music etc?

    The CMEP was a extremely pro-climate change propaganda group set up by Harrabin and a Prof Joe Smith to influence BBC output in order to promote the climate change message and to silence the sceptics by stopping them getting on air….it received funding from the Tyndall Centre…..

    ‘ Mike Hulme:
    Did anyone hear Stott vs. Houghton on Today, radio 4 this morning? Woeful stuff really. This is one reason why Tyndall is sponsoring the Cambridge Media/Environment Programme to starve this type of reporting at source’

    And…

    ‘ ‘Following their lead [Harrabin and Smith’s] has meant the whole thrust and tone of BBC reporting has been that the science is settled, and that there is no need for debate,’ one journalist said. ‘If you disagree, you’re branded a loony.’

    Harrabin and Smith boast of the power and influence the CMEP has been able to wield and scarily wants to replicate their duplicity around the globe…

    ‘ “The seminars have been publicly credited with catalysing significant changes in the tone and content of BBC outputs across platforms and with leading directly to specific and major innovations in programming,” – Dr Joe Smith

    “It has had a major impact on the willingness of the BBC to raise these issues for discussion. Joe Smith and I are now wondering whether we can help other journalists to perform a similar role in countries round the world” – Roger Harrabin’

    Harrabin is a campaigner not a journalist, he works hand in hand with the climate change lobby, even receiving money from them, he’s worked to silence and keep off air sceptics and he’s told lie after lie about climate change….and he’s an english graduate not a scientist. Some might say that he brings the BBC into disrepute nd that he is totally unfit to be their environmental correspondent, or even be at the BBC.

    The whole Today show proving that Moore is right…the BBC just doesn’t tolerate views that upset its own worldview…only allowing the heretics, the ‘loonies’, on in order to savage and ridicule them and ‘prove’ them wrong…by whatever means possible however dishonest, corrupt or biased those means are.

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  42. Dover Sentry says:

    Daily Mail:

    “Tony Blair ‘was bidding for contracts with the EU for his ‘institute for global change’ as he campaigned against Brexit'”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7834239/Tony-Blair-bidding-contracts-EU-campaigned-against-Brexit.html

    No self-serving conflict of interest there then, for our Tony?

    Betcha he lurves the BBC?

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  43. Dover Sentry says:

    The Guardian (Where else?)

    “”Out but not down: Tory anti-Brexiters tell where the next battle will be fought””

    “” Soubry said that despite the failure of her new party, there was still the potential for a new progressive party to emerge should Labour continue to be embroiled in civil war. “The Tory party will get its comeuppance in due course,” she said. “”

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/29/former-tory-remainers-say-where-next-brexit-battle-will-be-fought

    Betcha Soubry lurves the BBC?

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    • Doublethinker says:

      Dover the Remainer zealots won’t accept the UK leaving the EU as a done deal, even when we have left at the end of next month. They are totally committed to our membership of the EU in much the same way religious martyrs believe that they will go to a better place by dying for their faith.
      I suspect that they are already plotting with Brussels to try and arrange for the plagues of Egypt to be visited upon the UK economy.
      I have no doubt that the BBC, Times, Guardian etc will all be breathlessly reporting how badly the trade negotiations are going for the UK, how weak or position is , what a catastrophe we are facing , how those folks who voted Tory in the north will lose their jobs .
      Indeed I will not be surprised if the swamp dwellers actively try to sabotage the UK economy over the next couple of years. The Battle for Brexit May have been won but the civil war will still continue . Boris needs to realise that these diehards will never be reconciled to Brexit and that he must not agree to concessions to try and get them on board. High on his priority list must be to deal with the BBC and so deprive the Remainer/ Rejoiner tendency of its powerful propaganda tool. Then he should move to ruthlessly remove thousands of quanocrats , almost all of whom are leftist Remainer placemen and women. Followed by a purge of the civil service , judiciary, educational blob , otherwise within ten years we will be back in the EU.
      In short he needs to join with President Trump in draining the swamp. But does he have the same courage as the President? Could he endure the non stop barrage of lies that the President has weathered? Boris wrote a biography of Churchill he will need some Churchillian courage to see this through.

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      • fakenewswatcher says:

        Double – Indeed, we have entered a new age of politics now, where winning an election with a large majority does not mean you face only a defeated parliamentary opposition.
        The Donald found out on day one of his Presidency that, outside the Congress, efforts to get rid of him were starting up. (Once Dems won the midterms, that campaign moved into Congress)
        As you rightly say, the EU -who are keen on fleecing us for as long as possible-.won’t down tools just yet. Hence we read that end of 2020 may be too soon to end negotiations, threats to The City, etc etc
        The Remainers won’t give up either. They should have learnt their lesson, you would think, but I doubt it.
        They are all ‘democrats’ who won’t accept anything other than their own views. Betcha they’re at it right now, conspiring, hatching plots, working on extraparliamentary action etc.

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        • Fedup2 says:

          I was wondering what the psychological / emotional effect on UK actually leaving on 31 January would be.

          If I were BoJo / Cummings I’d have some trade agreement ready to go on 1 February if that is doable – even if it can only come into effect on 1 January 2021.

          There must also be a campaign to get rid of that damned ReichEU flag too .

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  44. pugnazious says:

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  45. digg says:

    Looks like we are about to get the full vengeance of the lefty press for losing Brexit and it’s of course going to be all about Climate….

    This article explains the tactics.

    https://climateoutreach.org/the-guardian-rethinking-climate-imagery/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI5feV7OXY5gIVR7DtCh10WAX_EAAYASAAEgJJw_D_BwE

    In true Goebbels Propaganda fashion this self appointed Climate Press Gang is going to teach Journalists how to choose the best Climate photographs to frighten the shit out of their readers and thus justify their own existence.

    The Independent are fully signed up to this boot camp and of course they pass everything along to the BBC.

    So look out for photos of smoking factory chimneys, car exhausts, etc. and always to show people in the shots. This they claim is better more “persuasive” than for instance pictures of polar bears etc.

    And here’s a link to underline the effect on journalism and the BBC.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1221769/bbc-tv-licence-fee-cost-latest-news-bbc-radio-4-today-charles-moore-guest-edit-bbc-funding

    Can’t wait!

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  46. Cane Corso says:

    Yes, fakenews, they are lurking in our very own swamp. But we have it from Lord Kerslake, former head of the swamp, that the swamp beast Sir Mark Sedwill “shouldn’t in my view think about resigning” regarding this minor data breach in the defunct honours system. Read this and many other views about this collapse of government on the Beeb “News Page”. Come back from sunny Mustique with all guns blazing, Boris, and roll a few more heads.

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    • theisland says:

      I notice Sedwill’s swamp chum John Manzoni (Chief Executive of the Civil Service and Permanent Secretary, Cabinet Office) has been awarded a KCB. Two of the many cover-uppers that need to go.

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  47. StewGreen says:

    Bercow news

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    • Fedup2 says:

      For Black Rod to day anything critical of a former speaker really does lift a stone and see the monster underneath .

      There doesn’t seem to be too much public dismay about Bercow not getting a place in the retirement home- so perhaps the decision to not annoint him will hold as opposed to the expected elevation when the dust settles .

      It is inevitable for some one as self important as Bercow to land up doing media jobs to keep his ego fed but with a bit of luck public interest in him will disappear and he can spend the rest of his time sulking .

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      • taffman says:

        “It is inevitable for some one as self important as Bercow to land up doing media jobs to keep his ego fed but with a bit of luck public interest in him will disappear and he can spend the rest of his time sulking”.
        Napoleon complex?

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Taffman
          Yes – it’s classic small man bullying those who in anyway challenged him .

          There was a tiny bit of me wishing he was still in the chair so that he could be made to suffer as the 80 seat majority rolled over him every day ….

          Particularly since so many of his pals are now seeking alternative employment … I suspect a number have EU passports so they’ll get Brussels gravy jobs .

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          • taffman says:

            “I suspect a number have EU passports so they’ll get Brussels gravy jobs .”
            I suspect that some have been colluding with the EU to undermine the the democratic decision of the people of Great Britain
            Now that would be an interesting topic for “Panorama Investigation”
            Come on Al Beeb how about it ?

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  48. Celtic_Mist says:

    BBC Watch – @BBCWatch – Monitoring BBC coverage of Israel for accuracy and impartiality – New York – bbcwatch.org – Joined May 2012

    Keeps a close eye on the subtle (and not so subtle) way that the BBC demonstrates bias against Israel

    “The Halo effect” is class

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  49. taffman says:

    \\The Home Office was accused of “criminalising refugees” after saying it would seek to return anyone who arrived in the UK illegally back to mainland Europe.//
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-50939128
    They are criminals .
    Who do these so called “accusers” think they are to make up false accusations against our security forces that are protecting the integrity of our nation’s border against criminals.

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    • Lefty Wright says:

      taffman
      Perhaps tomorrow I shall cycle all the way to London and attempt to walk, unannounced, through the doors of Broadcasting house and demand that, as a shareholder, I be allowed to wander where I like on the premises, order lunch and dinner and a room and beds for my wife and family. After all, the breaking and entering law seems not to apply to foreign criminals who illegally enter my country.
      I fear I shall become the proud possessor of a criminal record.
      Has Britain gone completely gaga?

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      • taffman says:

        Lefty Wright
        “Has Britain gone completely gaga?”
        Not Britain , just a minority of shorted sighted Libtards , do gooders and well paid charity NGO’s, all aided by Al Beeb and its propaganda machine .

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        • Lefty Wright says:

          taffman
          Correct. But those Libtards are extremely wealthy and occupy positions of immense power and influence so that they determine what we see and hear from the MSM, all of which emit a faux truth. They are swamp dwellers and a power wash is needed to flush them away.

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